OpenMoko FOSDEM2008
Hi all, First of all hi to everybody, because it is the fist post that I send, althougth I have been joined in the list since 4 or 5 months ago. In a few weeks ago some of you spoke about going to the FOSDEM 2008 like you did last year (where I knew something about openmoko), but that thread seems to be in standby, because anybody has sent anything else about it. You were talking about going with a alpha or beta (sorry if it is not the correct term) of the new GTA02 with wifi and the last version of the OS. How is this going? Also, you know that there every body is going to talk about the iphone and other smartphones, don't you think that could be a good idea to make a debate about this kind of devices and see how can we make the NEO1973 a strong and atractive competitor in this market? For sure I think that this initiative is one of the best in the last times because of all the people that collaborate in FLOSS projects I know it because it is my current job. So, tell me what do you think about this and if it is possible to prepare it, I think that it could be very interesting. Best regads JuanLu ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
R: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Having used it for some time, my impression is that Blender is a 3d modeler which is very much focussed on rendering, while other aspects of 3d design are weak (e.g. keeping control over measurement - no quotation lines). The user interface is unconventional, it is based on a coordinated use of keyboard + mouse takes some time to get used to - actually, I was never able to master it properly. If one wants to do serious CAM then one is better off with something else. Or perhaps export from blender e.g. to autocad. But it is perfectly ok to test conceptual designs. Just my twopence. M -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Michael Shiloh Inviato: lunedì 14 gennaio 2008 20.59 A: List for OpenMoko community discussion Oggetto: Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import these natively or with a plugin (although not all of them export dxf files). What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work? This would be excellent information to add to the wiki. I am not a CAD designer, but I work with many designers and machinists. Of course none of them are Linux users. I did a little research and found many commercial products for Linux. I presume we are more interested in FOSS CAD tools. The one that stood out to me was Blender. It's designed for much more, but 3D CAD is a solid part of its job. My girlfriend is a product designer. I gave her a Linux computer with Blender installed in the hopes that she will figure out how to use Blender and then teach me. Her initial impression was that Blender is excellent for this kind of work. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 17/01/2008 16.59 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OM on a non-neo divice: HTC Himalaya
Hi all I got an HTC Himalaya (as well known as: Qtek 2020, i-mate PDA, O2 Xda II, Krome Navigator, T-Mobile MDA II, Orange SPV M1000, Vodafone WirelessPDA, Dopod 696 and movistar TSM500) for free. Unfortunatelly there is WindowsMobile Edition installed. Yeah i know... Thatswhy I would like to change it. I found in the wiki that the HTC Magican is supported (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko-supported_hardware) Has anyone some information or better success with the HTC Himalaya as well? I really would love to have OM (I'm a student, so no money for a Neo :( ). How does it work? I would need it productive (just phonecalls, SMS and adressbook needed) or in the worst case I take it to play (if i can install OM but can't use it productive) and try to get a Nokia 3210 for normal use :P Is it difficul/dangerous to install? I have no money to let flash a bricked phone. Thx for any hints. Esra ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko on hx4700
Hi Sébastien, On Jan 18, 2008 11:58 AM, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I managed to build OpenMoko with MokoMakefile for hx4700 (make setup, change machine to hx4700 in local.conf, make openmoko-devel-image, all went fine). Then I tried to run it. I lauched the kernel with haret, and booted from an ext2 256 MB SD card (a rootdelay option is needed on the kernel command line) So, this gives me a wince-openmoko dual boot :) With the 624 MHz pxa270, the speed is fine, kinetic scolling works like a charm, and the whole UI is very reactive :) Congratulations. but... The problem is, hx4700 has no GSM modem, while openmoko keeps searching for a network. I think it is the openmoko-dialer2 doing that. So I get a full list of status messages at the bottom of the window, that are very annoying. Do you have any idea to remove them? I tried to stop /etc/init.d/gsmd, but it's not running. I guess I have to stop a gsm status applet, but I don't know how to do this. Here is an example: http://www.yaronet.com/mirari/BQ69 : Not searching blocks displayed at the bottom of the screen. Do you have any idea on how to map the hx4700 power button to the openmoko shutdown/suspend command, so that I can save battery life? I'll ask questions on the handhelds-hx4700-port mailing list too, but I need to know how buttons are managed in OM before I ask them how to achieve this ! Doesn't it work when you press the power button for a long time? OpenEmbedded already had a patch to neod to do that: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/openmoko2/neod_svn.bb http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/openmoko2/neod/ipaq.patch and since revision 3348 it is contained in upstream neod. Ah, last problem (and a minor one), at boot up I see on the fb console that some jffs2 mount operation is not happy with my flash (of course, it's full of wince and not jffs2 :) ) . I guess this is an init script trying to mount some inexistent partition. Can I disable this? Here is the screenshoot: http://www.yaronet.com/mirari/1RMS Cowardly refusing to erase blocks... fine, I didn't loose my wince image :D Try removing the line containing jffs2 from /etc/fstab. regards Philipp ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko on h5550 (was OpenMoko on hx4700)
On Jan 18, 2008 11:58 AM, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I managed to build OpenMoko with MokoMakefile for hx4700 (make setup, change machine to hx4700 in local.conf, make openmoko-devel-image, all went fine). If it it possible to build OM for hx4700, may it be also working on h5550? I know there is a config file in OE for h5550, so the same procedure should work on it, too. Several weeks ago, I tried the same on my iPaq, but I wasn't able to run OM. So, my question is: Can anyone confirm OpenMoko runs on h5550? Of course, there is a lot to be done for the Neo itself, but before buying one I'd really like to test OpenMoko using other ways than QEMU. Thanks alot Fabian Off Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster überfliegen. Dies und viel mehr bietet das neue Yahoo! Mail - www.yahoo.de/mail___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM on a non-neo divice: HTC Himalaya
Hi Esra, On Jan 18, 2008 11:09 AM, Esra Kummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I got an HTC Himalaya (as well known as: Qtek 2020, i-mate PDA, O2 Xda II, Krome Navigator, T-Mobile MDA II, Orange SPV M1000, Vodafone WirelessPDA, Dopod 696 and movistar TSM500) for free. Unfortunatelly there is WindowsMobile Edition installed. Yeah i know... Thatswhy I would like to change it. I found in the wiki that the HTC Magican is supported (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko-supported_hardware) Nobody has been working on Himalaya kernel support for quite some time, so a little bit of kernel work might be needed. The best way to get some help is jumping into #htc-linux on freenode at the right time. Basically you'd have to build a Himalaya kernel (from handhelds.org CVS) and boot it with HaRET (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET). Has anyone some information or better success with the HTC Himalaya as well? I really would love to have OM (I'm a student, so no money for a Neo :( ). As far as I know, Himalaya has the same phone chipset as both Neo and Magician (and Blueangel), and I think hardware-wise it is more similar to Blueangel (see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Himalaya, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Himalaya), as it is based on PXA263. How does it work? I would need it productive (just phonecalls, SMS and adressbook needed) or in the worst case I take it to play (if i can install OM but can't use it productive) and try to get a Nokia 3210 for normal use :P I don't think it is ready for productive use yet. Is it difficul/dangerous to install? I have no money to let flash a bricked phone. Difficult? Probably. Only if some kernel work is needed. Dangerous? No, unless you write something to the flash memory _on purpose_. To the PXA263's internal 32MB NOR flash we could write, but for the external M-Systems DoC chip I believe we don't even have drivers capable of doing that. regards Philipp ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko on hx4700
Hi all, I managed to build OpenMoko with MokoMakefile for hx4700 (make setup, change machine to hx4700 in local.conf, make openmoko-devel-image, all went fine). Then I tried to run it. I lauched the kernel with haret, and booted from an ext2 256 MB SD card (a rootdelay option is needed on the kernel command line) So, this gives me a wince-openmoko dual boot :) With the 624 MHz pxa270, the speed is fine, kinetic scolling works like a charm, and the whole UI is very reactive :) but... The problem is, hx4700 has no GSM modem, while openmoko keeps searching for a network. So I get a full list of status messages at the bottom of the window, that are very annoying. Do you have any idea to remove them? I tried to stop /etc/init.d/gsmd, but it's not running. I guess I have to stop a gsm status applet, but I don't know how to do this. Here is an example: http://www.yaronet.com/mirari/BQ69 : Not searching blocks displayed at the bottom of the screen. Do you have any idea on how to map the hx4700 power button to the openmoko shutdown/suspend command, so that I can save battery life? I'll ask questions on the handhelds-hx4700-port mailing list too, but I need to know how buttons are managed in OM before I ask them how to achieve this ! Ah, last problem (and a minor one), at boot up I see on the fb console that some jffs2 mount operation is not happy with my flash (of course, it's full of wince and not jffs2 :) ) . I guess this is an init script trying to mount some inexistent partition. Can I disable this? Here is the screenshoot: http://www.yaronet.com/mirari/1RMS Cowardly refusing to erase blocks... fine, I didn't loose my wince image :D Thanks! -- Sébastien LORQUET ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: OpenMoko meetings in Vienna? (Was: Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park)
That's a great idea, and I hope it takes off. Hopefully someone from OpenMoko can visit at some point. In the future, we'd like to support these sort of meetings in some way. Well it'd be really great if you guys could visit .. Vienna is a wonderful place to do a technology getaway .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko FOSDEM2008
I will be at FOSDEM 2008. I'm happy to discuss all kinds of things wrt. mobile technology. Be warned though, my views may not always be 100% congruent with those of my employer ;) Fwiw, there's a page in our wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Events:FOSDEM_2008 Regards, :M: -- Dr. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re[2]: New to OpenMoko
clare wrote: Hi Michael, Another little difficulty: on that site, there are Snapshot images which are clearly labelled gta01 and gta02. But how do I tell which are the gta01 out of pairs carrying only identifiers such as svnr3801 and svnr3874 ? Well, those which don't carry fic-gta01 and fic-gta02 either carry neo1973 or no identifier -- both indicates that they're not machine specific. Regards, :M: -- Dr. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko on h5550 (was OpenMoko on hx4700)
Basically building for another handheld is just a matter of kernel+drivers. OK not really but... You should give a try! Change your local.conf to h5500 and run the build! There are some information here: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH5000 2008/1/18, Fabian Off [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 18, 2008 11:58 AM, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I managed to build OpenMoko with MokoMakefile for hx4700 (make setup, change machine to hx4700 in local.conf, make openmoko-devel-image, all went fine). If it it possible to build OM for hx4700, may it be also working on h5550? I know there is a config file in OE for h5550, so the same procedure should work on it, too. Several weeks ago, I tried the same on my iPaq, but I wasn't able to run OM. So, my question is: Can anyone confirm OpenMoko runs on h5550? Of course, there is a lot to be done for the Neo itself, but before buying one I'd really like to test OpenMoko using other ways than QEMU. Thanks alot Fabian Off -- Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mailhttp://de.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40593/*http://de.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/landing.html. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sébastien LORQUET - 이세영 (李世榮) Ingénieur ENSPG 2006 / ENSIMAG-ASI 2007 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: R: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On Jan 18, 2008 2:47 AM, Michele Manzato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having used it for some time, my impression is that Blender is a 3d modeler which is very much focussed on rendering, while other aspects of 3d design are weak (e.g. keeping control over measurement - no quotation lines). The user interface is unconventional, it is based on a coordinated use of keyboard + mouse takes some time to get used to - actually, I was never able to master it properly. If one wants to do serious CAM then one is better off with something else. Or perhaps export from blender e.g. to autocad. But it is perfectly ok to test conceptual designs. That was my impression of blender too; I figured a real CAD package would be better, but there were no good options last time I looked. BRLCAD wasn't completely free - you had to send a physical letter to whatever gov't department that was, to state that you are a US citizen, and promise not to export the software, or something like that. It's good if one can just download and use it now. I will have to try it. I have some experience with Autocad but it was a long time ago (version 10 mostly), and it's so expensive to get a modern version. I'd like to try SolidWorks too, but that's even worse - it's not affordable at all unless you make your living with it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Robin Paulson wrote: On 18/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am preparing the right place to put the files. I have a question: case schematics is the wrong name. What is the right name? CAD Files? ID CAD Files? CAD Drawings? Someone in the field help me out here. they are CAD files yes, but the name needs to reflect their purpose and content, i.e. what they are CAD files of. i think 'case schematics' is fine, but i would say that, since i chose it (i'm a draughtsman by the way) maybe something from the following: what are they of? the case/body/housing what are they? drawings/models/schematics/layout/diagrams i'm sure whatever you choose will be fine A zip archive of our CAD/case schematics/dimensional drawings files is available. I can't tell for sure what's in them, because I don't have access to ProE. So I invite you all to help me organize this. It would be useful to create images of what's in these files, both high res and low res. It would be useful to have these files converted to other formats. Then I can figure out how to document and announce this properly. The archive is http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/GTA01_dimensions.zip Feedback is always welcome, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:33:48 +, andy selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unzip GTA01_dimensions.zip Archive: GTA01_dimensions.zip ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat GTA01_dimensions/README.txt This file was saved from Pro/Engineer Wildfire 3.0. Open via gtc01-mme01.asm. Nothing that Blender recognises. I'd love to know what the bluetooth-adhesive.prt.1 file contains. Thanks a lot Michael, I'm sure they'd com in useful. According to this page : http://5axes.free.fr/Format_Echange.htm#PROE There is nothing but ProE to open these files. Is ProE able to export in STEP (standard) format ? -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
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Re: New to OpenMoko
clare wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Hi Michael, Another little difficulty: on that site, there are Snapshot images which are clearly labelled gta01 and gta02. But how do I tell which are the gta01 out of pairs carrying only identifiers such as svnr3801 and svnr3874 ? Hi Clare, Those would be the kernel images, and the same images work for both GTA01 and GTA02. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko on hx4700
2008/1/18, pHilipp Zabel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Sébastien, On Jan 18, 2008 11:58 AM, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I managed to build OpenMoko with MokoMakefile for hx4700 (make setup, change machine to hx4700 in local.conf, make openmoko-devel-image, all went fine). Then I tried to run it. I lauched the kernel with haret, and booted from an ext2 256 MB SD card (a rootdelay option is needed on the kernel command line) So, this gives me a wince-openmoko dual boot :) With the 624 MHz pxa270, the speed is fine, kinetic scolling works like a charm, and the whole UI is very reactive :) Congratulations. but... The problem is, hx4700 has no GSM modem, while openmoko keeps searching for a network. I think it is the openmoko-dialer2 doing that. I edited the file /etc/matchbox/session or something like that and removed the gsm applet. This is now ok :) So I get a full list of status messages at the bottom of the window, that are very annoying. Do you have any idea to remove them? I tried to stop /etc/init.d/gsmd, but it's not running. I guess I have to stop a gsm status applet, but I don't know how to do this. Here is an example: http://www.yaronet.com/mirari/BQ69 : Not searching blocks displayed at the bottom of the screen. Do you have any idea on how to map the hx4700 power button to the openmoko shutdown/suspend command, so that I can save battery life? I'll ask questions on the handhelds-hx4700-port mailing list too, but I need to know how buttons are managed in OM before I ask them how to achieve this ! Doesn't it work when you press the power button for a long time? OpenEmbedded already had a patch to neod to do that: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/openmoko2/neod_svn.bb http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/openmoko2/neod/ipaq.patch and since revision 3348 it is contained in upstream neod. Oh yeah sorry, I did not push long enough :) The menu shows up, but nothing happens when I hit shutdown. update: after a few seconds I get an openmoko splash screen with a scolling bar, that scolls, stop, and nothing more ! update2: after more time I get some kernel console messages saying tmpfs is busy update3: nothing happens after this. The kernel+his console are still alive, and no shutdown occurs. This item is for the hx4700 mailing list, I think. Ah, last problem (and a minor one), at boot up I see on the fb console that some jffs2 mount operation is not happy with my flash (of course, it's full of wince and not jffs2 :) ) . I guess this is an init script trying to mount some inexistent partition. Can I disable this? Here is the screenshoot: http://www.yaronet.com/mirari/1RMS Cowardly refusing to erase blocks... fine, I didn't loose my wince image :D Try removing the line containing jffs2 from /etc/fstab. Ah thanks, it was trying to mount mtdblock3 /home . No more jffs2 warnings. regards Philipp ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'll try usb networking this week end. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Michael Shiloh wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. lol.. concrete.. nice.. so a modern 'brick' phone.. :) Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? I have a Roland MDX-15 machine and also a Sherline 5410 CNC Mill (less than 12 month old) and have a number of 1/16th inch end mills which are ok for fine work.. will be interested to look at the case models when they come out... Neil Davey Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --- Neil Davey Daveytronics.com.au P.O. Box 6089 Logan Central QLD, 4114 Looking for cost effective web hosting? Need a domain name for your business? It's cheaper than you think!! Talk to us and see what we can do for you --- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Can you generate CAM paths with Blender? That I don't know. I don't think Blender does.. although you might be able to write a plugin.. :) It's for windows, but I've been evaluating MeshCAM (http://www.grzsoftware.com/) for tool path generation from STL files and it seems ok so far, but I've only used it handful of times.. Regards Neil Davey Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --- Neil Davey Daveytronics.com.au P.O. Box 6089 Logan Central QLD, 4114 Looking for cost effective web hosting? Need a domain name for your business? It's cheaper than you think!! Talk to us and see what we can do for you --- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
