Re: When are the sale gonna start?
Like the topic, when are the sale gonna start? It is 26. July here (Norway) and the clock shows 10:00 AM (and since the US is about 9 hour after us, the time is about 01:00 AM). I almost can't wait any longer :) Alexander Frøyseth As the store page says, why not check out the distibutors in the mean time. I bought my Freerunner a couple of days back from Bearstech (France) and should get it in the first week of august. Another recommended distributor is Pulster. They both give two year warranties as well. Check them out. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko and Conduit
Does anyone have information on syncing Openmoko using Conduit ( http://www.conduit-project.org)? Conduit is proposed [1] for inclusion in Gnome 2.24. I have a dream that one day I will be able to plug an Openmoko phone into a fresh Ubuntu installation and syncing set up in just a few moments and without editing text files. -Charles Pax [1] http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia questions
On Saturday 26 July 2008 22:52:38 Lorn Potter wrote: You should write clean code from the start. At WebKit.org we have clear Coding Style Guidelines and most of it is enforced by review and pre-commit scripts. Maybe adopting such things for Qtopia would make sense? I wish you would stop using the word 'you' when you mean Trolltech. 'You' makes it seem like it is personal to me. I only work on one small part of Qtopia, and direct people to view your commit log. Sorry, that is probably due my bad english. I refer to the entity that got bought by Nokia. I have no idea which developer is responsible for which part of the code or has written certain parts. I will try to improve but please be patient. Perhaps you should stop caring if the code has differing white spaces and get on with the real bugs. Lorn, I don't know what makes you say that. We have almost four hundreds commits in our Qtopia tree and probably 5 of the fix the indenting. But yes I complain about the complete lack of a Coding Style in the Qtopia source base because for whatever upstream project I patch I try to follow the style when making patches. This is impossible with Qtopia. Sure. this is why I write this into the commit message... and why we do not like to commit code that breaks it. IIRC Trolltech's Qtopia engineers have had plenty of commits in Qtopia 4.3 that broke BC. :) Please reread the paragraph. As I said I made starting of timers optional. So what is the default? Default is still the old and error prone (from my point of view and every OpenSource/FreeSoftware engineer I have talked to) behaviour. It's a fine line between whats right, what's correct, and what's reality. The modem is a complete different system, it runs its own OS. Guessing about the internal state of the system is just wrong. Why? Because one has no idea what the modem is doing, what the network is instructing... whatever. So the plain Qtopia code sets a call to accepted before the connect command (ATA) gets even send and it is ignoring the result of the modem. Why do I care? Well, because it broke. People interested can read this code[1]. This is a basic engineering practice and if engineers do not follow this one will create a fragile and error prone systems. I know you don't like this statement but it is simply the case. First of all I doubt that you need to start any timers to guess when something is done. CLCC should always work (if %CPI or such vendor extensions do not exist). So instead of guessing when a call might or might not be missed, when all information arrived one could start your missed timer and then check the state of the call... So I think the buggy modem is just an excuse for writing fragile software. This is what I was told by the lead comms guy. He has many real world years experience (including large projects with large amounts of engineers such as Qtopia) as a software developer, including open source and I take his word for it. http://freshmeat.net/projects/pnet/ And I have serious doubts that this guessing is necessary in the first place. And I have stated that one shouldn't punish every modem/customer because one modem is really really bad. But see the below paragraph of the previous mail about mixing guessing (starting timers) and basing on %CPI (if it is available). %CPI is to be preferred, asking (CLCC) would be good as well (that is FSO's fallback), I could live with timers as well, but mixing all of these ask for trouble... I know you don't like this but I complain about the guessing (starting timers) because it broke on me and QA, and I make sure that in our case no timers get started or nothing is guessed. And from the feedback I get callhandling feels more solid but there are still some bugs left. Does this complaining mean I'm perfect and never make mistakes? Obviously I make mistakes like everyone else, I make plenty of them. But the things I complain about show something that is systematically wrong. Your developers in Brisbane can listen to it, discuss and learn, or they can ignore this. It is up to them, I encourage them to discuss in public and engage in Free Software projects. I was meaning general internal discussions. People choose to view your patches or not, depending on their interest. Many do not have time to wade through 300 patches of code clean up for those few real bugs. haha. git-rev-list says 366 commits without merges. But please don't tell my manager that I just change whitespace the whole day long... If you feel better believing that we can declare this reality. Imagine this would be Qt. I would sit down with Simon or such and go through all the patches and we would send the git commits to the right dev's. This would be a matter of a couple of hours. I think one of you could easily go through the git commit and discard or forward... we can do this remotely if there would be any interest The
Re: wrong offset of mouse in landscape mode (and scummvm)
Hi, this might not fit the topic but there is something which caught my eye: Yorick Moko schrieb: [...] except that is automatically launches in landscape mode. [...] Do you know how this is achieved? I would like to have this for Kobo deluxe as well. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
I seem to remember a note from Sean about us trying to find a way to make this possible. Thanks for the note on our phonesystem! Right now I would guess we don't have the infrastructure to sell devices to our customers directly, off the office. But let's see... cheers jOERG Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb tony: Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to encourage you and the other people from Taiwan to get into contact with OpenMoko staff. Maybe write to Mickey Lauer, Sean Moss-Pultz or Steve Mosher directly and tell them your problem. They post messages to these lists, too. Perhaps you could also open a bugzilla ticket. :) Robert, thanks for the encouraging insights. I'm guessing that the OpenMoko management staff have their hands full with logistical issues what with the new release of the FreeRunner. Direct email might be a bit invasive. I've actaully tried calling them, but their phone system is broken or something. It says I should dial 9 for operator, but then it just hangs up. :( I figured when they have time they will read this mailing list and hopefully, if possible, act upon our comments. Cheers, Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andrew Burgess said (on the OLPC bug tracker): | | ...For me the SD card corruption is 100% fixed now. I run a swap to the | first sd card partition and I could guarantee partition wipe by turning | off power or shutting down with swap on. I could work around it 100% by | running swapoff before power down. I never enabled suspend. Now | everything works. It suspends and resumes at will with swap running. | Shutdown or mash the power button, partition table is fine... | | http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6532#comment:63 What is the swap situation on the image you are running? I noticed Debian was doing something about it on initscripts, but I didn't notice before that we run swap on ASU? If as I believe this is very sensitive to a race, then not syncing swap can change the behaviour miles away from the swap itself and change the symptom, as could a bunch of other stuff. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiMJGQACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoBGQCfTZGoHzScbI+RtGdmKEtLlN0X 4fgAnjeHUc2iowstBWGgXmeVjd9kEr0k =uvX+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | With all ext2 partitions, I get this in dmesg | | FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors | VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcblk0. | FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors | VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcblk0. | JFFS2 warning: (956) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not enough space for summary, | padsize = -1 | | a problem? No, it doesn't mean any problem about SD Card. First it tries to mount the thing vfat, before ext2 / 3, so those 4 lines are OK. Second the last line is ongoing jffs2 trouble that does not seem to make a symptom, when we move to 2.6.26 there is a at least one patch in there noticed by Holger that may impact this. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiMI5oACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqz2wCghkIiD+jxCd3mNgN2jyyVRC3C zyoAn1J/y1BvvzoJQcL4tr9EIYktjihl =eIaD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gpsd not in ASU repository?
On Friday 25 July 2008 03:42:10 Christopher White wrote: I recently pointed opkg towards: http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/armv4t I notice that gpsd in not there. I installed it from http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/armv4t Is there any particular reason it's not in ASU? I ran it along with TangoGPS without much trouble in ASU (despite a lot of D-bus not running errors). Hey, I put it into the openmoko ASU feed as well. It should be there on monday (after our next autobuild completes). Be aware that it will conflict with the diversity-daemon process as both want to open the GPS device file. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SD card doesn't work on my Freerunner
Hello, My Freerunner fails to recognize the SD card. There are no /dev/mmc* named devices in the system. I have 2007.2 image upgraded with opkg from factory image. Revelant part of dmesg: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dmesg | grep -E glamo|mmc glamo3362 glamo3362.0: Detected Glamo core 3650 Revision 0002 (49119232Hz CPU / 81887232Hz Memory) glamo3362 glamo3362.0: Glamo core now 49119232Hz CPU / 81887232Hz Memory) glamo-spi-gpio glamo-spi-gpio.0: registering c0373838: jbt6k74 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: glamo_mci driver (C)2007 Openmoko, Inc glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: probe: mapped mci_base:c8864400 irq:0. glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: glamo_mci_set_ios: power down. glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: initialisation done. mmc_set_power(power_mode=1, vdd=20 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 0kHz div=255 (req: 0kHz). Bus width=0 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req: 195kHz). Bus width=0 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req: 195kHz). Bus width=0 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req: 195kHz). Bus width=0 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x8120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x8120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x8120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x8120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x8120 mmc_set_power(power_mode=0, vdd=0 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: glamo_mci_set_ios: power down. Also I've seen a line like this: mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising sd card Regards, Marek Materzok ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD card doesn't work on my Freerunner
* Marek Materzok [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-27 10:33 +0200]: Hello, Hi, My Freerunner fails to recognize the SD card. There are no /dev/mmc* named devices in the system. I have 2007.2 image upgraded with opkg from factory image. Not sure it'll help, but FWIW it didn't work for me the first time either. I had to remove and reinsert it... no problem since then. So in case you haven't done that yet, check it's firmly inserted. :) Regards, -- MiKael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMS
On Saturday 26 July 2008 22:15:54 David Pottage wrote: The SMS applet on my phone is doing the same. If I try to start it from the command line. I get 4 coppies of the error message: Gtk-WARNING **:gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11 and a Segmentation fault. I have just reproduced the bug again gdb I now get: Program received signal SIGSEGV ... 0x40c3786c in g_utf8_casefold() from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 And that is as far as I can get. It is a fatal bug in a fundamental bit of phone software, that no one is attempting to fix. I know that everything about the freerunner is alpha quality and that I should not expect anything to work properly, but I would expect an environment where bugs like this are easy to fix. Instead no one is interested. Thanks to the confusion over distros, I am not willing to look at this any further, because I have no idea if the GTK based messaging application will be in use in 3 months time, so any effort I put into further isolating or fixing this bug could be wasted. /rant On a separate note, does anyone know where in the filing system the received messages are stored, as I would like to write a script to parse them. Grepping the entire filing system for likely words has not found anything. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
Jay Vaughan wrote: 1. there is a universe of unconnected contributions (ie I packaged smth which is not in the official repository, what official repository (which Freerunner distro is that, anyway), and how do i put something in it? as a new app developer for Freerunner, i have to say: the flow of the public repo's is not clear. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CommunityRepository http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Create_package_on_projects.openmoko.org_and_upload Please help promote this :) Regards, Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Terminal + UTF-8
Hi, Is there a way to make the openmoko-terminal2 application UTF-8 capable? Also it seems the openmoko-terminal2 does not read in .profile, which would be a nice feature, since there should be a way to define some aliases, ... -- Sebastian R. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD card doesn't work on my Freerunner
2008/7/27 Mikael Berthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Marek Materzok [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-27 10:33 +0200]: My Freerunner fails to recognize the SD card. There are no /dev/mmc* named devices in the system. I have 2007.2 image upgraded with opkg from factory image. Not sure it'll help, but FWIW it didn't work for me the first time either. I had to remove and reinsert it... no problem since then. So in case you haven't done that yet, check it's firmly inserted. :) Strange. I did it twice, it didn't work. Tried another time, and it magically worked. Seems that the holder isn't very reliable... Thanks :) Marek Materzok ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have a Bluetooth mouse ?
HI, 2008/7/27 Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, 2008/7/26 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo /usr/sbin/hcidump -X test_mouse Can't open device: No such device You should probably use the device file there, such as /dev/input/mouse or whatever. I'd dump it myself, but my MoGo mouse doesn't have a scrolling wheel. It can't open the bluetooth device, probably your bluetooth device isn't hci0. Check with hciconfig your device (hci0, hci1...) and then try with the command sudo hcidump -i device_hcixx -X test_mouse K, I don't know if I'm going to be able to help you out. hciconfig -a doesn't have any output. I think the bluetooth devices are mapped to /dev/input/mouse*: $ cd /dev/input/by-id $ ll $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-15c2_0038-event-mouse - ../event1 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-15c2_0038-mouse - ../mouse1 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-Logitech_Logitech_BT_Mini-Receiver_000761A42B60-event-kbd - ../event2 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-Logitech_Logitech_BT_Mini-Receiver_000761A42B60-event-mouse - ../event3 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-Logitech_Logitech_BT_Mini-Receiver_000761A42B60-mouse - ../mouse2 and sudo /usr/sbin/hcidump -X -i /dev/input/mouse1 'test_mouse' has the same Can't open device: No such device result. I've tried with mouse[0-3]. If you have any other suggestions let me know, otherwise maybe someone else can help you out. Your mouse seems to be a Bluetooth mouse with some USB receiver, your computer probably don't have Bluetooth (or isn't configured). Thanks for the help anyway. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org -- Dylan Type faster. Use Dvorak: http://dvzine.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Terminal + UTF-8
2008/7/27 Sebastian Reichel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also it seems the openmoko-terminal2 does not read in .profile, which would be a nice feature, since there should be a way to define some aliases, ... If you are using bash, .profile is only read if it a login shell. Try .bashrc. Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMS
Charles-Henri Gros wrote: hello, i've got my freerunner since thursday and it works quite fine except the SMS applet. At first I could open the applet and send messages but now it fails. When I try to start the applet it seems to be loading but it stops after a while. Is there any way to fix it or to reinstall the applet?? I've had the same problem when I had a null contact in my contact list. See if you have this (It can happen when you try to add a contact but then give up, and maybe other situations) I had indeed a null contact. I've deleted it and now it works again. thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD card doesn't work on my Freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Not sure it'll help, but FWIW it didn't work for me the first time | either. I had to remove and reinsert it... no problem since then. | | So in case you haven't done that yet, check it's firmly inserted. :) | | | Strange. I did it twice, it didn't work. Tried another time, and it | magically worked. Seems that the holder isn't very reliable... Glad to hear you're working... the dmesg you gave was exactly what it would do with no card in there (that it could see, anyway). What I do is also close and lock the SIM part, it seems to help with reliable contact. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiMP4kACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqFzwCcCBXa03UANjetVFnak8cUf8Um 68gAn1WE7rJTC7rVdn+BfdPCetbT2qE2 =jgjv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'hwclock' not working? (ASU)
Hello, On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: write the current time into the rtc then you have to write W\n into /var/spool/at/trigger. Like this: echo W\n /var/spool/at/trigger Or is th '\n' not needed in that case? I have already updated the wiki, and will fix the command example if needed. But on the other hand we provide a GUI application to set the Timezone and the Time and they work :) As someone else in this thread mentioned, there are issues with that application. When I tried to use it, it looked like it couldn't set the time correctly - I set correct timezone and input local time, but fter setting time, it was at utc instead of local time. And sometimes the years changed in odd ways. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia: GPRS
I'm trying to send an MMS with Qtopia. I set up GPRS and WAP through the GUI, but it did not work; the network interface failed to start when sending. A look into the log shows this: Jul 27 09:57:37 om-gta02 user.notice Qtopia: Network : Creating network session for qtmail on /home/root/Applications/Network/config/dialupGPRS0.conf Jul 27 09:57:37 om-gta02 user.notice Qtopia: Network : starting pppd (non-demand) : /usr/sbin/pppd nodetach debug call dialup1217032395 password simyo logfile /tmp/qtopia-0/qpe-pppd-log-dialup1217032395 connect /opt/Qtopia/bin/qtopia-pppd-internal active /home/root/Appl Jul 27 09:57:37 om-gta02 user.notice Qtopia: QServiceDeviceBase::run: could not find a pseudo-tty Jul 27 09:57:37 om-gta02 user.notice Qtopia: Network : QModemDataCall::dial - could not start pppd Now question is on the second line: is the log message cut off or is the command issued like this. In the latter case the reason for failure is obvious. In the first case the log would need fixing before further debugging can take place. Hard to find the problem if it is unclear what actually is done. Ole pgpgTrhmMpJsS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wrong offset of mouse in landscape mode (and scummvm)
Be warned though Robert that when the screen is rotated, rotating it back does not restore everything like it schould. You will have to reboot your FreeRunner then. I also found a way to get the cursor to display where I click, the only problem is that when I get too close to the mic-side of the phone the offset is again introduced automatically. All very strange. Forthermore: I tested monkey island 2 and it works great! Only problem is that in this version of scummvm for the freerunner there is not yet an esc button, so I had to ssh in the phone to quit the game. btw: nice work (kobedeluxe) On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, this might not fit the topic but there is something which caught my eye: Yorick Moko schrieb: [...] except that is automatically launches in landscape mode. [...] Do you know how this is achieved? I would like to have this for Kobo deluxe as well. Regards Robert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Lars Formella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can find it here: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ Thanks Mike - very nice. And much more readable than the default theme. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Flashing ASU Image
What is the recommended way to flash the FR with the recent ASU-Image without new images on the buildhost server? Flashing with the latest image from 20080721 and then opkg update opkg upgrade? I guess that will get more and more fragile the bigger the diff gets, or am I missing something? Would really prefer if there would be daily images again. Michael bin7DaK3283US.bin Description: PGP Public Key ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing ASU Image
I guess that will get more and more fragile the bigger the diff gets, or am I missing something? why should that be? the only thing opkg does not upgrade is u-boot -- but that is not affected by flashing new asu images either. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing ASU Image
but doesn't he need to download the correct opkg folder? or are the opkg feeds already fixed? On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 2:07 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that will get more and more fragile the bigger the diff gets, or am I missing something? why should that be? the only thing opkg does not upgrade is u-boot -- but that is not affected by flashing new asu images either. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing ASU Image
Quoting Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but doesn't he need to download the correct opkg folder? or are the opkg feeds already fixed? I thought of this. I try to explain it further down. On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 2:07 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that will get more and more fragile the bigger the diff gets, or am I missing something? why should that be? the only thing opkg does not upgrade is u-boot -- but that is not affected by flashing new asu images either. I think the more changes in basic packages as gtk+- gtk+-fastscaling there are, the superior the packetmanagement has to be. Resolving the dependencies, removing old files and so on. I am not sure if opkg can do the job perfectly that you have the same result as a clean image especially when the difference gets bigger. That is why I tend to backup my files and flash the rootfs regularly instead of upgrade it. Michael binqEfD93rHW3.bin Description: PGP Public Key ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing ASU Image
I think the more changes in basic packages as gtk+- gtk+-fastscaling there are, the superior the packetmanagement has to be. Resolving the dependencies, removing old files and so on. I am not sure if opkg can do the job perfectly that you have the same result as a clean image rather a case for improving opkg, isn't it? btw: what are the relationships between opkg and dpkg? dpkg is well tested and capable of everything packagemanagement should do. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing ASU Image
Quoting arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the more changes in basic packages as gtk+- gtk+-fastscaling there are, the superior the packetmanagement has to be. Resolving the dependencies, removing old files and so on. I am not sure if opkg can do the job perfectly that you have the same result as a clean image rather a case for improving opkg, isn't it? Although improving is always a good idea, this would be the case when my thoughts, that taking an fairly old image and updating with opkg could cause trouble, are correct. I don't know if they are. So the question should be is this method (image + opkg upgrade) in our special case, opkg as a packetmanagement tool and the rapid changes of ASU, the best solution? If I am wrong and this is the way to go, I am more than happy with it. binNfAlh6RV3F.bin Description: PGP Public Key ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMS
On Sunday 27 July 2008, David Pottage wrote: /rant I second this. I have tried twice to start a thread...no response On a separate note, does anyone know where in the filing system the received messages are stored, as I would like to write a script to parse them. Grepping the entire filing system for likely words has not found anything. ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing ASU Image
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 14:42 +0200, Michael Münch wrote: Quoting arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the more changes in basic packages as gtk+- gtk+-fastscaling there are, the superior the packetmanagement has to be. Resolving the dependencies, removing old files and so on. I am not sure if opkg can do the job perfectly that you have the same result as a clean image rather a case for improving opkg, isn't it? Although improving is always a good idea, this would be the case when my thoughts, that taking an fairly old image and updating with opkg could cause trouble, are correct. I don't know if they are. So the question should be is this method (image + opkg upgrade) in our special case, opkg as a packetmanagement tool and the rapid changes of ASU, the best solution? If I am wrong and this is the way to go, I am more than happy with it. So I don't know if it's opkg related or not, but here's what I tried yesterday with ASU: 1. Flash openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.jffs2 from the latest that I could find (7/22): http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080722/ 2. Changed all opkg conf files to point to: http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ 3. opkg update opkg upgrade 4. Tried to get the qwerty keyboard enabled with the button. Honestly can't find which set of directions I used, as there were multiple emails about this. I did use the illume.edj replacemenet to get the button. Things were very unstable: - Applications sometimes appeared not to launch (no starting message). Finally a good 30s later, the app popped up. This seemed to come and go. - qwerty button didn't seem to work - finally got the qpe died - your phone won't work... dialog box - exposure does not work (known issue now, but still makes it difficult) I apologize for the lack of detail, but I spent most of the day yesterday trying to get some of this stuff to work. Switching from multiple descriptions in different web pages, trying to decipher whether it applies to 2007.2 or ASU, digging through email archives, etc. I like the way ASU is starting to come out, but man, it's driving me nuts. I finally just reflashed back to 2007.2 and I'll try again in a week or so. ...cj ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have a Bluetooth mouse ?
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:55, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, 2008/7/27 Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, 2008/7/26 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo /usr/sbin/hcidump -X test_mouse Can't open device: No such device You should probably use the device file there, such as /dev/input/mouse or whatever. I'd dump it myself, but my MoGo mouse doesn't have a scrolling wheel. It can't open the bluetooth device, probably your bluetooth device isn't hci0. Check with hciconfig your device (hci0, hci1...) and then try with the command sudo hcidump -i device_hcixx -X test_mouse K, I don't know if I'm going to be able to help you out. hciconfig -a doesn't have any output. I think the bluetooth devices are mapped to /dev/input/mouse*: $ cd /dev/input/by-id $ ll $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-15c2_0038-event-mouse - ../event1 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-15c2_0038-mouse - ../mouse1 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-Logitech_Logitech_BT_Mini-Receiver_000761A42B60-event-kbd - ../event2 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-Logitech_Logitech_BT_Mini-Receiver_000761A42B60-event-mouse - ../event3 $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-07-25 01:11 usb-Logitech_Logitech_BT_Mini-Receiver_000761A42B60-mouse - ../mouse2 and sudo /usr/sbin/hcidump -X -i /dev/input/mouse1 'test_mouse' has the same Can't open device: No such device result. I've tried with mouse[0-3]. If you have any other suggestions let me know, otherwise maybe someone else can help you out. Your mouse seems to be a Bluetooth mouse with some USB receiver, your computer probably don't have Bluetooth (or isn't configured). Thanks for the help anyway. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org -- Dylan Type faster. Use Dvorak: http://dvzine.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Here is a dump with my mouse. There is only one byte changing between the messages: byte = '01' : 1 click scroll up byte = '02' : 2 clicks scroll up byte = '03' : 3 clicks scroll up ... byte = 'ff' : 1 click scroll down byte = 'fe' : 2 clicks scroll down ... I hope this is ok for you -- Vincent MEURISSE test_mouse Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have a Bluetooth mouse ?
2008/7/27 Vincent MEURISSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a dump with my mouse. There is only one byte changing between the messages: byte = '01' : 1 click scroll up byte = '02' : 2 clicks scroll up byte = '03' : 3 clicks scroll up ... byte = 'ff' : 1 click scroll down byte = 'fe' : 2 clicks scroll down ... I hope this is ok for you Thanks Vincent :) What is the brand and model of your mouse ? Cheers, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org -- Vincent MEURISSE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community contributions to core apps features. (Was: Terminal for ASU)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for posting that link Rashat! I'm waiting for Stroller to get an answer too, but it's nice to know who to complain to about what after this :) ~ I want my KEYBOARD SWITCH back, I do! ~ Lisa -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIjIa81sOMhsR36UsRAthKAJ4oMwaLF8ktJTOTN+N+4pg9D49mZQCgridn MR21pkary5efNvY+F5myvjU= =MAVw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Lars Formella [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: werd-up! nice! :) note - you will need to keep up with illume.edj changes - i have added more theme elements since you did the tango theme :) hi, because i personally dislike the build in asu/illume theme - in german we call it augenkrebs ;) - i created a new fresh one myself with some tango icons. it is still in the early grade (i have no freerunner to test and played around just with qemu), but maybe some one like it. stay tuned for updates and more tango replacements comming... you can find it here: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/ASU-Illume-Tango-Theme-tp583627p583627.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you promise me that you will keep update... it will become my default theme on my FR! GREAT WORK! Lars Formella wrote: hi, because i personally dislike the build in asu/illume theme - in german we call it augenkrebs ;) - i created a new fresh one myself with some tango icons. it is still in the early grade (i have no freerunner to test and played around just with qemu), but maybe some one like it. stay tuned for updates and more tango replacements comming... you can find it here: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiMjckACgkQSIAU/I6SkT1rXQCePM5f77YnX5E2JgaWLWFi2c/y 5KcAn3bQI+2GGNPpW7X+AaP1EC9Y4RmE =b6jQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Second Australia wide group purchase
The first group purchase of sixty phones and eight debug boards have arrived in Perth and the batches for the eastern states are now in transit via Australian Post. The total cost of the phones worked out at $440 each. Each phone had as extra goodies an adaptor to plug into Australian power points, headphones and a carrying pouch. I cannot guarantee that the price or the accessories will be the same for the second batch but they should be. As overall organiser of the first batch I am happy to put my hand up to organise another batch of 50 phones if there is enough demand and i resolve a legal issue that is worrying me. I believe Openmoko have reserved 50 phones from a production batch in early August for us. I have to confirm with Openmoko in the next few days if we will be taking these 50 phones. Can anyone who is SERIOUSLY INTERESTED in this please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the email subject being Second Purchase state quantity So if you were living in NSW and wanted 2 phones you would reply with the subject Second Purchase NSW 2 Simon Matthews ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have a Bluetooth mouse ?
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 14:11, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/27 Vincent MEURISSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a dump with my mouse. There is only one byte changing between the messages: byte = '01' : 1 click scroll up byte = '02' : 2 clicks scroll up byte = '03' : 3 clicks scroll up ... byte = 'ff' : 1 click scroll down byte = 'fe' : 2 clicks scroll down ... I hope this is ok for you Thanks Vincent :) What is the brand and model of your mouse ? Cheers, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org -- Vincent MEURISSE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community It's a Microsoft : Laser mouse 8000 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:37:56 +1000 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: arne anka wrote: is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)? For X, there is rosetta, but I am not sure any work has been done on it for a while http://handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ I've tried rosetta (on OM2007.2), but the training application needed some modifications to run at all because the application would not display itself properly (wrong assumptions about screen size). Rosetta is at least promising when tweaked and used together with a good word list. What makes it unusable is that the automatic keyboard adds to the screen space needed by rosetta and then there's simply not enough screen left for the main application (e.g. SMS editor) A workaround for this is to re-enable the keyboard toggle applet in /etc/matchbox/session as described in the wiki. (I have the matchbox keyboard running, but I guess it would be the same with multitap). Some simple general keyboard input method management would be really nice for OM. E.g. like an extended keyboard applet that shows and hides keyboard apps associated with the chosen input method. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Terminal for ASU
Hehe. I did my honors on Neitzche. Stroller, If you want to talk to design then just send me mail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stroller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:24 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Terminal for ASU On 24 Jul 2008, at 08:30, arne anka wrote: If you've been mismanaged/micromanaged so badly that you've had to adopt what Neitzche called the Sklavmoral-- or I'm not paid to think, I'm well, nietzsche told a lot of stuff and ended up in the funny farm in due time ... and if his own morale was that much better than sklavenmoral is up to discusssion. anyway, what raster tries to say, imho, is: do not bother _him_ with your criticism but the designers themselves -- saying he's only the programmer makes imo sufficiently clear that he's not teh one to make that decistions and as he wrote before his opinion is not taken in account. so, if you want to have it changed, bother the design department. I did mean to reply to one of Carsten's earlier (yesterday) messages and say I'm not having a go at you personally, mate. But it is in order to badger the design department that we're posting to -community on the subject. We don't seem to have contact details for the design department and with Carsten washing his hands of the matter (apparently justifiably) Openmoko seem to be ignoring the subject. How else can we get Openmoko to take our opinions into account, other than to post here? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
Joerg, Thanks for letting us know that the management staff is trying to think of this. We (at least I do) understand that infrastructure is an issue. But isnt staffing an issue? If you want to have the best and most open-source oriented software developers in taipei, and the website says you do, then I would imagine that making freerunners available to the public IN TAIPEI would be a priority. AnywaysI'm not trying to piss anyone off. Just trying to find a way, as a member of the community, to considerately let the OpenMoko staff understand how the community feels. Before anyone flames me, I just want them to consider that they chose to subscribe to this list and chose to read this message... *tony does a humble bow* cheers!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: headset with qtopia
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now question would be, how to make qtopia to recognize the headset has been plugged in and change mixer settings accordingly. The .state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios are in place but don't seem to be used. Ok, I fixed headphone insertions today, and will make an image update soon at qtopia.net Thanks much for taking a look at this, Lorn. I have flashed the new kernel/rootfs from qtopia qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz, but I am still having difficulties. On initiation of a call, state switches to gsmhandset.state, regardless of whether the headset is plugged in before or during the call. If I manually apply alsactl -f gsmheadset.state, I get working sound. In the options popup tab during the call, only Handset and Speakerphone are given, with Handset highlighted. When I start a call with the headset, Headphones is in the Options menu, but as soon as I plug the headset in, it disappears. working on a GTA02v5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Provider missed calls messages
Cédric Berger wrote: I also receive another sms from 123 once the message was aknowledged (listened by me !). (maybe even 2 sms if I listen to 2 pending messages...). This one is to trigger the message icon down... I had once seen some description of this kind of sms but have yet to find it now... I do not know to what point these messages are proprietary and specific to providers... (but anyway my old phone worked the same with other providers -it was initially bought with Orange contract-) I have T-Mobile in the US and I get a 129 message, for the same events, so it looks like it is provider dependent. -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: headset with qtopia
thewtex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I start a call with the headset, Headphones is in the Options menu, but as s/with/without soon as I plug the headset in, it disappears. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, andres wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:30 +0300, Breakable wrote: Hi there, Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are you doing with your new device? Right now I'm trying to sell it. Is there any aftermarket for these things? I'm getting a bit terrified since there has been no interest in my GTA02 for sale, and AFAICT the things are sold out. I can't afford to have a very expensive paperweight sitting around that I don't have time to fiddle around with. -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When are the sale gonna start?
Yogiz skrev: Like the topic, when are the sale gonna start? It is 26. July here (Norway) and the clock shows 10:00 AM (and since the US is about 9 hour after us, the time is about 01:00 AM). I almost can't wait any longer :) Alexander Frøyseth As the store page says, why not check out the distibutors in the mean time. I bought my Freerunner a couple of days back from Bearstech (France) and should get it in the first week of august. Another recommended distributor is Pulster. They both give two year warranties as well. Check them out. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I am in a group sale If we are going to change, we have to write a new contract, that will take too long. We have discussed it Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:17 AM, tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, Thanks for letting us know that the management staff is trying to think of this. We (at least I do) understand that infrastructure is an issue. Sounds to me as though you need an intermediary, Can you find a retail company in Taipei who would deal with Fic? Fic seem to have infrastructure for that, for example resellers in Gemany. clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: werd-up! nice! :) note - you will need to keep up with illume.edj changes - i have added more theme elements since you did the tango theme :) thanks for the hint. of course i will update the theme and add usefull changes from the default one. maybe we can install the tango theme and icons as the default one when its ready and tested. hopefully my freerunner arrives with the next charge on the 15th august, so i can test and play around live and coloured :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/ASU-Illume-Tango-Theme-tp583627p585738.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ready to flash
Been playing with my FR for a couple days now. I'm using an ATT Pay as you Go Sim, and it appears to work fine. Though if I go into an area of no coverage, which are plentiful in western New Mexico the top bar says Registering, the GSM status dialog either says No Service or Invalid Registration? Once I move back in coverage it eventually reconnects and says ATT in the upper left. The GSM icon in the upper left must update really slowly cause it lies a lot about the signal strength. Couple questions. 1.) I would like to back up my existing kernel file system. Seems some are having a problem using dif-util. Is this isolated or everybody? Has any body used partimage and successfully backed up and restored? 2.) Trying to decide which distro to use is really really hard! Does ASU have everything Qtopia has? Is ASU always as broken as the list makes it sound? Which has the best qwerty keyboard that is finger friendly? What is scardy-cat? thanks, Scott Oh, everybody I call says there is an echo on my voice and they can here themselves. I've heard numerous mentions of this problem. Has anybody come up with an audio configuration that doesn't do this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?
Please check the distributors as folks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MKL23 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:14 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? I saw them appear on 24th, and removed this morning (25) Best Regards, Mac Lin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:42 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Were any 850s available on the 25th? Or did it just remain sold out from previously. Maybe there will be some delay due to rework and testing changes for the gps + sd fix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MKL23 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:29 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Hi, It's 25th, and the 850 is sold out, again. Is there any information or schedule of 900 ?? Best Regards, Mac Lin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:20 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? No, the guy who put up the 15th just made a mistake. I told him the 25th ( best case) and he put up 15.th. , when we hit an inventory status of 36 units of 850, I checked the website, found the mistake and said. While you are fixing this date, get ready for the next shocker, we sold out the 850. Another build is coming so hang in there. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:53 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Hey I just wonder why the 900 was delayed with ten days when the 850 ten pack was sold out? I was so happy to see that I was going to order my 10 pack of 900 on Monday, but suddenly the date was 25th instead 15th. When I saw that the 850 ten packs was sold out, I also saw that the 900 was delayed. Is the a connection here? And why are the 900 delayed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme
I really enjoy the look, but unfortunately I had to switch back because it messed up the one of the POI dialogs in tangoGPS. I wonder if I didn't apply it completely because it doesn't seem to apply to applications. On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Lars Formella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: werd-up! nice! :) note - you will need to keep up with illume.edj changes - i have added more theme elements since you did the tango theme :) thanks for the hint. of course i will update the theme and add usefull changes from the default one. maybe we can install the tango theme and icons as the default one when its ready and tested. hopefully my freerunner arrives with the next charge on the 15th august, so i can test and play around live and coloured :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/ASU-Illume-Tango-Theme-tp583627p585738.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Link to some interesting phone hacks video at citizenengineer
I found some really interesting an well explained video about sim card hack (and others) at http://www.citizenengineer.com/. Maybe its possible to store sim cards into memory, and get rid of the hardware? Imagine the possibilities! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Community contributions to core apps features. (Was: Terminalfor ASU)
Well, The other day I counted my emails. I had well over 2000. You see, every email that goes to openmoko comes to me. I read each of these. If you want to start a wiki about OM. Sean is the CEO, I am the VP of marketing, Wolfgang is the VP of Engineering. we announced this a long while ago in the press. If you address a question to me I will route it in due course. Steve _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rakshat hooja Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:51 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Community contributions to core apps features. (Was: Terminalfor ASU) It is already linked from the front page, but clearly from not those places it should be from :) But you have good points. Openmoko is open, but its development is not exposed in the open as much as I'd like for an open source project to be. The Openmoko folks are still a bit mysterious to me, with the exception of the few who regularly post on these mailing lists. I think the line between Openmoko employee and a contributing, trusted community member should be made more fuzzy. More SVN / GIT rights to the people, more contributing directly to http://svn.openmoko.org/ instead of just external projects at projects.openmoko.org etc. You are right but I think that the problem lies in the fact that Openmoko has not been able to provide any entry point where new people joining the list (after the release of the freerunner) can figure out who and where to ask what question. The Openmoko people are pretty open and if you will ask for something long enough you will get an answer/ access from them. Michael Shiloh of Openmoko used to interface with the community and answer their questions after getting the information from the developers in a regular community update. I think Steve and Michael still do that? Maybe we should have a page on the wiki describing who does what at Openmoko and who to address what question to and also an introductory email for new subscribers listing out similar things. It has been almost an year since I wrote my first email to Openmoko (actually to Sean to which Michael Shiloh replied) I can assure you that Openmoko people try their hardest to be open and responsive to community suggestions/ questions. But often it takes time for the question/ request to reach the correct person who can answer it / respond to it. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Link to some interesting phone hacks video at citizenengineer
yeah lady ada is hawt, she also threw up a diagram for a cellphone jammer on the net, i listened to her on the hope6 mp3's http://tracker.pseudohacker.org:6969/ i didnt go but those mp3's sparked my interest with amateur radio, they talked about the pixie CW (continuous wave/aka morse code) radio a lil board that can fit in an altoids tin, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Link to some interesting phone hacks video at citizenengineer
i forgot to say, like they said newer sim modules will stop functioning via brute force attempts, self destruct hey feel free to try bruteforcing it, worst comes to worse call your service provider and be like someone threw my phone in a bonfire i need a new one ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Link to some interesting phone hacks video at citizenengineer
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Breakable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found some really interesting an well explained video about sim card hack (and others) at http://www.citizenengineer.com/. Would the Freerunner be able to run the brute force attack on the encryption key directly? I know it wouldn't work on modern cards. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
If they can setup sales center or reseller in Hongkong, the people china-mainland will easyer to buy it, To setup sales center in Hongkong could void the severe management of official of china mainland. 2008/7/27 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember a note from Sean about us trying to find a way to make this possible. Thanks for the note on our phonesystem! Right now I would guess we don't have the infrastructure to sell devices to our customers directly, off the office. But let's see... cheers jOERG Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb tony: Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to encourage you and the other people from Taiwan to get into contact with OpenMoko staff. Maybe write to Mickey Lauer, Sean Moss-Pultz or Steve Mosher directly and tell them your problem. They post messages to these lists, too. Perhaps you could also open a bugzilla ticket. :) Robert, thanks for the encouraging insights. I'm guessing that the OpenMoko management staff have their hands full with logistical issues what with the new release of the FreeRunner. Direct email might be a bit invasive. I've actaully tried calling them, but their phone system is broken or something. It says I should dial 9 for operator, but then it just hangs up. :( I figured when they have time they will read this mailing list and hopefully, if possible, act upon our comments. Cheers, Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: headset with qtopia
thewtex wrote: Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now question would be, how to make qtopia to recognize the headset has been plugged in and change mixer settings accordingly. The .state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios are in place but don't seem to be used. Ok, I fixed headphone insertions today, and will make an image update soon at qtopia.net Thanks much for taking a look at this, Lorn. I have flashed the new kernel/rootfs from qtopia qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz, but I am still having difficulties. On initiation of a call, state switches to gsmhandset.state, regardless of whether the headset is plugged in before or during the call. If I manually apply alsactl -f gsmheadset.state, I get working sound. hmmm, ok. I will have to look into this. :) In the options popup tab during the call, only Handset and Speakerphone are given, with Handset highlighted. When I start a call with the headset, Headphones is in the Options menu, but as soon as I plug the headset in, it disappears. yes, something is hooked up backwards. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
yangm wrote: If they can setup sales center or reseller in Hongkong, the people china-mainland will easyer to buy it, To setup sales center in Hongkong could void the severe management of official of china mainland. that's cool 2008/7/27 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember a note from Sean about us trying to find a way to make this possible. Thanks for the note on our phonesystem! Right now I would guess we don't have the infrastructure to sell devices to our customers directly, off the office. But let's see... cheers jOERG Am So 27. Juli 2008 schrieb tony: Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to encourage you and the other people from Taiwan to get into contact with OpenMoko staff. Maybe write to Mickey Lauer, Sean Moss-Pultz or Steve Mosher directly and tell them your problem. They post messages to these lists, too. Perhaps you could also open a bugzilla ticket. :) Robert, thanks for the encouraging insights. I'm guessing that the OpenMoko management staff have their hands full with logistical issues what with the new release of the FreeRunner. Direct email might be a bit invasive. I've actaully tried calling them, but their phone system is broken or something. It says I should dial 9 for operator, but then it just hangs up. :( I figured when they have time they will read this mailing list and hopefully, if possible, act upon our comments. Cheers, Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When are the sale gonna start?
We have just signed up a disty in sweden, so you should be able to buy from there shortlty I dont hae dates, getting ready for linux world -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When are the sale gonna start? Like the topic, when are the sale gonna start? It is 26. July here (Norway) and the clock shows 10:00 AM (and since the US is about 9 hour after us, the time is about 01:00 AM). I almost can't wait any longer :) Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
For 2007.2 users (and probably could be brought within ASU desktop easily) there is matchbox-stroke which seems to be quite a nice start and is configurable somewhat easily (if ran within terminal on FR it spits out the codes which are descriptors of the written letters so it could be added to shipped .xml file) the only problem on my 1st try to use it is that it doesn't have a mechanism to disappear from the screen (or at least I've not found it) -- it is always there. But I guess it should be doable (simply by duplicating some functionality from matchbox-keyboard for instance...) so it seems like a good candidate ;) someone indeed should just figur figure out a nice way to compose multiple input methods and implement convenient switching between them On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, arne anka wrote: is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Yaroslav Halchenko Research Assistant, Psychology Department, Rutgers-Newark Student Ph.D. @ CS Dept. NJIT Office: (973) 353-5440x263 | FWD: 82823 | Fax: (973) 353-1171 101 Warren Str, Smith Hall, Rm 4-105, Newark NJ 07102 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When are the sale gonna start?
steve skrev: We have just signed up a disty in sweden, so you should be able to buy from there shortlty I don’t hae dates, getting ready for linux world -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When are the sale gonna start? Like the topic, when are the sale gonna start? It is 26. July here (Norway) and the clock shows 10:00 AM (and since the US is about 9 hour after us, the time is about 01:00 AM). I almost can't wait any longer :) Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Why wont openmoko start selling, instead of/with the resellers? Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Opening the Cellwaves
Doc Searls: ...If we follow the second path, we'll fail at a fundamental mission, which is opening the infrastructure itself. To do that we need to create open phones that are damned good at being Net-generation radios and televisions, as well as recording and producing devices. We also need to work at making clear how much more business the carriers and phone makers will find in a world of generative devices, rather than locked-down ones — a world where anything is possible, rather than one where legacy monopolies get leveraged for the duration. http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/opening-cellwaves ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
