Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Exactly, -neo2 uses the top accelerometer (as in reads from /dev/input/event2), and -neo3 uses the bottom accelerometer (reads from /dev/input/event3).This is where -neo2 and -neo3 come from: event2 and event3. Paul On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 17:53, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Do you really need the various -neo2.sh, -neo3.sh wrappers? Why not have one wrapper that reads cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware? This is not for hardware revision, both are for GTA02 - neo2 uses bottom accelerometer, and neo3 uses top accelerometer (or maybe in another order :x) It's only for user choose. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
I know you did, Trevino, and I'm really sorry I didn't had time to took into it.Right now I'm not focusing on the gestures project, because I've got something else to finish. But don't worry, I've bought the necessary hardware for accelsense.org in order to start working again later this month, and I'll take care of the start-up problem as it's important. Paul On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Paul V. Borza wrote: Haven't figured out that yet; update-rc.d gesl defaults 80 will start the daemon, but it won't work as it will start it before X. I've tried putting it inside xinitrc, but that didn't work either for me. I was probably doing something wrong. Maybe someone else can help to figure this problem once and for all? I wrote a things you could try some weeks ago in your blog [1], but I don't know if they work (I've tested them just via SSH and they work). The only thing come up in my mind was that of dbus-launch the process from an /etc/X11/Xsession.d entry. Bye! [1] http://tinyurl.com/6l9ou7 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
keycode of aux and power?
I need the keycode of aux and power but I can't find it, anybody knows them? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] xglamo howto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin is there someone who knows what to do on a debianized freerunner to get Xglamo running usable (with ts) and is willing to give a little cooking recipe and maybe put it at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ Debian as long as there is no .deb availabe? (i know about http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/xglamo-beta/ xglamo_1.3.0.0+git20080807-1_armel.deb .. but this .deb only brings the binary - no config is done at all) ciao, morlac - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIyMHir81gVylJyzERArEeAJ9+3WdDwXqwIlAzFA79yZR2NACeGgCcDngD xU0eKtGVeY8C67nu9WZpNUo= =6ZQQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xglamo howto?
I'd like it too... I will give the possibility to rotate the screen, restarting X ? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open Linux phone gets datacasts
Charles Pax wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Natanael Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just found this: LinuxDevices.com: Open Linux phone gets datacasts (http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6565189083.html) Can someone explain how the the two pieces of hardware couple? It doesn't look like they connect via the USB connection and the only internal connection that seems reasonable is I2C. Are they connecting through something else? I think the debug connector (JTAG?) has some sort of serial interface. Please advies. USB testpoints on frerunner board http://openmokast.org/pictures.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xglamo howto?
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 11.09.2008, 08:59 +0200 schrieb Christian Adams: is there someone who knows what to do on a debianized freerunner to get Xglamo running usable (with ts) and is willing to give a little cooking recipe and maybe put it at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ Debian as long as there is no .deb availabe? (i know about http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/xglamo-beta/ xglamo_1.3.0.0+git20080807-1_armel.deb .. but this .deb only brings the binary - no config is done at all) I should remove that file, it was just a quick test and for example the touchscreen does not work. Someone managed to compile one with touchscreen working (Arne Anka? Timo? not sure, sorry), and Gismo started to clean up some packaging, but I think he’s overly buisy right now. You can build your own package from http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/xglamo.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/debian though, using qemubuilder, if you have time and a fast machine :-) Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using openmoko as a wireless gateway
Kevin wrote: Would the following setup work: A Openmoko freerunner is set to connect to my laptop that is using a master mode capable wireless card and the default gateways is set to the ip of the openmoko freerunner. Does the wifi card support ad-hoc connections? Yes it does. So the commands would be something like this Find your ad-hoc network iwlist eth0 scan Configure your moko iwconfig eth0 mode ad-hoc channel 6 key s: iwconfig eth0 essid Y You should be able to do all on one line, but for some reason you have to specify the essid on a seperate one. /Tore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ubuntu on 1973/Freerunner
Is Ubuntu headed to the 1973/Freerunner? I see that they have ported it to ARMv5 EL (@ http://mojo.handhelds.org/ ) . Would a ARMv4 port be difficult? Any ideas if someone has tried this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ubuntu on 1973/Freerunner
A port of Ubuntu would be nice but then again we already have Debian. //danielh 2008/9/11 sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is Ubuntu headed to the 1973/Freerunner? I see that they have ported it to ARMv5 EL (@ http://mojo.handhelds.org/ ) . Would a ARMv4 port be difficult? Any ideas if someone has tried this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WiFi doesn't work
Hi, I have a FR whith 2008.8 + latest updates, and I can't connect to any wifi network with the GUI. The settings page shows correctly the list of available APs, when I click on one it asks for a password, and that's all. At home, I have a WEP network (which is working very well), and I could try connecting with the commandline. An iwlist scan shows the APs, then iwconfig essid and key connect to the AP, but that's all. When I then run dhclient eth0, it goes into an infinite loop where it receives an OFFER, then does a DECLINE. Here is the log seen from the server side (dnsmasq): Sep 10 23:37:17 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.178 00:19:7d:87:60:4e Sep 10 23:37:17 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.178 00:19:7d:87:60:4e Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDECLINE(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDECLINE(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:56 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 etc. dhclient on the FR shows the same kind of thing. Any hint ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Motor oil eats through the finish on GTA02
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just mucked up the finish on my freerunner's case. I'm not sure this is the right place to report it... Thank you for reporting. I have leaky motorcycle (Royal Enfield) and my old phone has always handled grease and oil very well. Though I am extra careful with FR (large glass screen and all) I probably would have accidentally bleached it with oil if you had not reported. Regards, -GK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.08] Desktop drawer submenu subdirectory
I'd like something like this too. Maybe you could open a trac ticket filling this feature request! But those tickets are only for bugs, aren't them? Where is the place to put feature requests? Anyway, I wanted to know if there was already a way to do that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keycode of aux and power?
On Thursday 11 September 2008 08:53:29 Thomas Bertani wrote: I need the keycode of aux and power but I can't find it, anybody knows them? AUX: 177 I was not able to the get the one for the Power button because it seems that it doesn't get passed up to X. At least xev was not able to recognize it. Probably because it suspends the phone. However, xev is in the opkg tree. Just try it out yourself. opkg install xev DISPLAY=:0 xev ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ubuntu on 1973/Freerunner
I know.. but yeah, it would be nice :-) . On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Daniel Hedblom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A port of Ubuntu would be nice but then again we already have Debian. //danielh 2008/9/11 sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is Ubuntu headed to the 1973/Freerunner? I see that they have ported it to ARMv5 EL (@ http://mojo.handhelds.org/ ) . Would a ARMv4 port be difficult? Any ideas if someone has tried this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xglamo howto?
Someone managed to compile one with touchscreen working (Arne Anka? Timo? not sure, sorry), and Gismo started to clean up some packaging, i did. and the deb is available on http://www.ginguppin.de/node/23 be aware that right click does not work -- there seems to be the necessary code for the tslib patch to work to be mssing entirely. in xorg.conf switch Driver fbdev to Driver xglamo link /etc/X11/X to /usr/bin/Xglamo do export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 somewhere. i did it in /etc/init.d/zhone-session in the start stanza. but i got the impression, xglamo still suffers from a drop in performance after running a while. rotating works with xrandr -o ... -o 1 rotates bottom at 3 and works (pointer is inplace), -o 2 bottom at 12 and a lot of problems i did not try further since portrait/landscape seems the sensible ones and i don't care whether landscape has the bottom at 3 or 9. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Hi, Great work on making a bootable image for everyone - I've taken the liberty of uploading it to one of our servers here which should be a bit more robust; take a look here: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors We've got a bit of spare capacity here so if there are any bootable images that people would like to share then drop me a line on or off list and I'll see what can be done. Antony. On Tuesday 09 September 2008 16:38:08 David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Disabling keyboard auto-complete
Hi all.
I've found a way to completely disable keyboard's auto-prediction (or s it
auto-complete?) feature.
do via shell:
{{{
echo /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/common.dawg
echo /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/words.dawg
}}}
then restart X (or phone) and enjoy this feature completely destroyed.
Note that you won't be able to enable it back via GUI.
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Re: [debian] xglamo howto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moin thx arne, i will try in the evening and report my experience here .. ciao, morlac Am 11.09.2008 um 10:38 schrieb arne anka: Someone managed to compile one with touchscreen working (Arne Anka? Timo? not sure, sorry), and Gismo started to clean up some packaging, i did. and the deb is available on http://www.ginguppin.de/node/23 be aware that right click does not work -- there seems to be the necessary code for the tslib patch to work to be mssing entirely. in xorg.conf switch Driver fbdev to Driver xglamo link /etc/X11/X to /usr/bin/Xglamo do export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 somewhere. i did it in /etc/init.d/zhone-session in the start stanza. but i got the impression, xglamo still suffers from a drop in performance after running a while. rotating works with xrandr -o ... -o 1 rotates bottom at 3 and works (pointer is inplace), -o 2 bottom at 12 and a lot of problems i did not try further since portrait/landscape seems the sensible ones and i don't care whether landscape has the bottom at 3 or 9. - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIyN4pr81gVylJyzERAitoAKCSpB7HRm1SXYJwfTwdnjTWDCAPsACg3/kI ImPntV3VfkYfu/KYBjyDkWY= =1tTJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New(ish) keyboard input method
Craig B. Allen wrote: dasher is available in the Debian distribution. It's pretty slow, and hard to see the letters. But I have not tried tweaking it other than selecting stylus mode in preferences. -- Craig Anyway... I think it can be a real plus for the FreeRunner ! Okay, it consumes 1 full CPU of my 2.2 Ghz laptop, but ... ;) Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIP on Debian
Using http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk//src/target/audio/om-gta02/voip-handset.state I was able to use linphone to connect to ekiga on another machine. The mic and speaker worked. The sound was a little soft and distorted. But I was juggling a headset on the other computer and the openmoko. ...Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open Linux phone gets datacasts
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Evgeny Ginzburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Pax wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Natanael Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just found this: LinuxDevices.com: Open Linux phone gets datacasts (http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6565189083.html) Can someone explain how the the two pieces of hardware couple? It doesn't look like they connect via the USB connection and the only internal connection that seems reasonable is I2C. Are they connecting through something else? I think the debug connector (JTAG?) has some sort of serial interface. Please advies. USB testpoints on frerunner board http://openmokast.org/pictures.html Do the test points form a USB connection that is independent of the regular mini-USB connector on the Freerunner body or is this just a method of accessing the USB port internally? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customized layout for illume keyboard
This will be added to the future FDOM too :) El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 02:17 +0200, Thomas B. escribió: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:40:18AM +0100, Thomas White wrote: Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I customized the layout of the illume Numbers keyboard a bit, and thought I'd share the result with the community. EXACTLY what I was looking for (and was about to have a go at creating myself). Many thanks! Glad that I could help! Regards, Thomas PS: I forgot to provide uninstallation instructions: In the case you or anyone trying this eventually finds that they don't like the layouts, getting rid of them is as easy as rm -rf ~/.e/e/keyboards; killall -HUP enlightenment (provided that you don't have your own custom layouts in there). Illume will then reload the default layouts from /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keycode of aux and power?
2008/9/11 Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 11 September 2008 08:53:29 Thomas Bertani wrote: I need the keycode of aux and power but I can't find it, anybody knows them? AUX: 177 I was not able to the get the one for the Power button because it seems that it doesn't get passed up to X. At least xev was not able to recognize it. Probably because it suspends the phone. However, xev is in the opkg tree. Just try it out yourself. opkg install xev DISPLAY=:0 xev thanks a lot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Disabling keyboard auto-complete
Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: echo /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/common.dawg echo /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/words.dawg Maybe is better: mv /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/common.dawg /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/common.dawg.back mv/opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/words.dawg /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/words.dawg.back ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia Media Player + Pulseaudio = hurt
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 16:44:21 Dylan Reilly wrote: Pulseaudio is not installed by default (at least it shouldn't). z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
2008/9/11 Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED]: nickd wrote: http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html This would be awesome. -Nick But proprietary... Unix being proprietary did not stop Linux. I figure they use some basic reinforcement learning techniques... No need to have a look at their code to do the same as they do. Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:00, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2008 02:27:05 Cédric Berger wrote: Is there a possibility you will be releasing a rootfs archive? That'd rock. there is already a qtopia update archive with qtopia stack files only. it comes with a little script to replace these files (/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/) (just beware if you have qtopia X11 apps installed, this script might delete them) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using openmoko as a wireless gateway
On 10 Sep 2008, at 20:18, Kevin wrote: Would the following setup work: A Openmoko freerunner is set to connect to my laptop that is using a master mode capable wireless card and the default gateways is set to the ip of the openmoko freerunner. Sure. You just need to configure this. Does the wifi card support ad-hoc connections? This is not what you describe above. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Couldn't agree with this any more; thanks David! Joseph 2008/9/9 Andreas Micklei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brilliant! Of course the software and information to get to this software level is freely available. But your distribution is a HUGE timesaver allowing me to concentrate on the important stuff. Thanks for sharing! regards, Andreas Micklei ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
The problem is not WLAN but the dhcp client, as you see you get a response, but then you send back a DHCPDECLINE. What you can do is to stop the dhcp client and then configure the interface manually. ifconfig eth0 192.168.4.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 /Tore Xavier Bestel wrote: Any hint ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customized layout for illume keyboard
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:19:35AM +0200, David Samblas wrote: This will be added to the future FDOM too :) Cool! :) I hope the FDOM users will find it useful. Regards, Thomas El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 02:17 +0200, Thomas B. escribió: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:40:18AM +0100, Thomas White wrote: Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I customized the layout of the illume Numbers keyboard a bit, and thought I'd share the result with the community. EXACTLY what I was looking for (and was about to have a go at creating myself). Many thanks! Glad that I could help! Regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 14:02, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:00, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2008 02:27:05 Cédric Berger wrote: Is there a possibility you will be releasing a rootfs archive? That'd rock. there is already a qtopia update archive with qtopia stack files only. it comes with a little script to replace these files (/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/) (just beware if you have qtopia X11 apps installed, this script might delete them) I meant this snapshot http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=82 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
why no keyboard input in gameboy emulator?
Hi, I compiled gnuboy , a gameboy emulator, on openmoko of the neo freerunner, but... I can't understand why via vnc, if I use the pc keyboard, I can control gnuboy without problems, but if I use the openmoko virtual keyboard it doesn't run.. Why? oO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
problems with python-xlib display init
I can't init the display with the xlib module in python. Anybody has make it successfully? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
On Thu 11 Sep 2008 01:31:27 Didier Raboud wrote: nickd wrote: Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... I don't like Dasher because it introduces uncontrolled waiting states, in order for the target letter to reach the center. I get the same feeling when i'm told that in order to disable the QTopia keyboard's auto-complete, i need to wait 2secs on the same letter... On Dasher's site they make a comparison with car-driving. I think that if we were given the chance, we would preffere a click-to-destination instead of a steering-wheel car-UI. Yet, a GPL software always deserves respect, Regards, Kostis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 14:28 +0200, Tore Martin Hagen wrote: The problem is not WLAN but the dhcp client, as you see you get a response, but then you send back a DHCPDECLINE. What you can do is to stop the dhcp client and then configure the interface manually. ifconfig eth0 192.168.4.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 I tried that, but I couldn't get a ping to get through. Even after manually fiddling with routes to be sure they were setup correctly, I couldn't get anything to work. USB works perfectly though. Is the GUI thing (in settings from 2008.8) supposed to work with a WEP network ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New(ish) keyboard input method
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Pitcher wrote: Lally Singh wrote: This could really be nice: http://gizmodo.com/5047798/blindingly-fast-touchscreen-text-entry-system-gets-a-push-by-creator-of-t9 That is really cool. I signed up at [1] to find out when it will be available for the Freerunner. The form has a text field for make and model, so I entered FIC Neo Freerunner. The form also has a drop-down for operating system that includes a choice for Linux which gives me hope. [1] http://www.swypeinc.com/beta.html It's not going to be open source, so how can it be made available for the FR? Intresting. http://owstarr.com/2008/09/09/controversy-at-tc50-who-owns-the-technology-ip-swype-or-shapewriter/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community when there are such controversies, there can always be open source implementation. It may not come officially from openmoko but it can exist just like we install various codecs on our Linux systems. I dont see any big issue here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
Hi If you manage to get a DHCP reply it means that the WIFI connection is OK. But my experience is that WIFI can only connect once. So to test out the setup I would reboot. Do the iwconfig then do the ifconfig with a know address and then see if you can ping. Is anyone else have problem to connect WIFI to different access points in one session (I had the same problem when I tried the Debian distribution, but I assume they have the same wifi driver) /Tore Xavier Bestel wrote: Is the GUI thing (in settings from 2008.8) supposed to work with a WEP network ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
Hi all, (to be fare: I compare with my 4 years old sony ericsson P900 phone, and that one wins without problems for now) (Warning: no ranting please, I'm just summing up all current bugs I encounter and hope to get some pointers for fixes) For the moment I seem to be unable to find a distro where the basics work without issues (and I flashed/upgraded/installed already a number of times): - booting time: 2/3 minutes for asu. I can accept this for a beta functioning device, but I hope this gets better in the future. Yes, I know the wiki page for this ... luckely I don't reboot py phone too often - receive calls: calls arrive double on qtopia distro (not asu, no no sim card issue here), so for each call I end up having a missed call entry as well. Very annoying. - speaker: qtopia emits a very loud tone when on speaker - echo: the asu distro doesn't have the echo fix yet - choose a ringtone: ok, I can replace the wav file, but come on, no app available at all for asu? - alarm: I use my cell phone for wake-up calls, but ASU isn't reliable to give me the alarm. The phone unsuspends on time, but the alarm doesn't sound, or an undetermined amount of minutes too late. This seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem... - prevent the copying of sim-card contacts to your phone (qtopia and asu). Ok, I can remove them from the sim, or change the sqlite db on te phone, but this is a basic setting on any phone. - remove all contacts from the phone (qtopia and asu). Again I can just clean up the sqlite db file here, but a simple sql script executed by a gui would be nice. - mplayer: plays mp3 just fine, but qtopia or asu media players are unable to play back one mp3 fine without hickups or distortion (distortion can be fixed by editing the mp3 and decreasing the volume by 20dB). Is this gstreamer bogging down the phone or just bad mp3 decoding? - wifi: why on earth isn't wifi taking the nameservers given by dhcp? Is it the resolvconf issue that needs fixing here? Even my old archos 430 did that just fine from the beginning. Now I needed the usb0 connection working just to be able to get the wifi working, since no terminal app is installed by default on the phone. I did use the resolvconf wiki page to help me out here, but no dice for encrypted networks. Mofi maybe? - speed: asu reaction time is just too slow. Qtopia is reasonable here. - bluetooth: no app on asu, and the qtopia-x11 bluetooth app doesn't do anything. I haven't even tried image viewing yet, or gps ... I would have thought to be able to iron out bugs and such, but I was expecting basic working functionality. For now I have my freerunner lying on my desk at home, doing nothing at all ... Does the fdom version of ASU addresses some of the plain asu issues? Or any help solving some of these? I *really* want to show off my freerunner ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:39 +0200, Tore Martin Hagen wrote: Hi If you manage to get a DHCP reply it means that the WIFI connection is OK. But my experience is that WIFI can only connect once. So to test out the setup I would reboot. Do the iwconfig then do the ifconfig with a know address and then see if you can ping. Now that's impractical, seeing how long the boot time is :( Ok, I'll try that. Or maybe some rmmod+modprobe first. Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
Now that's impractical, seeing how long the boot time is :( Ok, I'll try that. Or maybe some rmmod+modprobe first. The problem is that it is not a module. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
Am Donnerstag, den 11.09.2008, 15:51 +0200 schrieb Xavier Bestel: Ok, I'll try that. Or maybe some rmmod+modprobe first. Please report your results. -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
The solution is absurdly simple. Use udhcpc not dhclient. Both are installed on 2008.8, only udhcpc does the right thing. For example... Dhclient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dhclient eth0 Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.2 Copyright 2004 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP can't create /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases: No such file or directory Listening on LPF/eth0/00:12:cf:8e:f0:0e Sending on LPF/eth0/00:12:cf:8e:f0:0e Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 DHCPOFFER from 10.0.1.100 DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 10.0.1.100 DHCPDECLINE on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 udhcpc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# udhcpc eth0 udhcpc (v1.9.1) started run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1 Sending discover... Sending select for 10.0.1.214... Lease of 10.0.1.214 obtained, lease time 4294967295 run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1 adding dns 10.0.1.100 Much better result with the latter :) On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I have a FR whith 2008.8 + latest updates, and I can't connect to any wifi network with the GUI. The settings page shows correctly the list of available APs, when I click on one it asks for a password, and that's all. At home, I have a WEP network (which is working very well), and I could try connecting with the commandline. An iwlist scan shows the APs, then iwconfig essid and key connect to the AP, but that's all. When I then run dhclient eth0, it goes into an infinite loop where it receives an OFFER, then does a DECLINE. Here is the log seen from the server side (dnsmasq): Sep 10 23:37:17 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.17800:19:7d:87:60:4e Sep 10 23:37:17 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.17800:19:7d:87:60:4e Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.17900:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.17900:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.17900:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.17900:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDECLINE(ath0) 192.168.4.17900:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.18000:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.18000:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.18000:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDECLINE(ath0) 192.168.4.18000:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:56 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 etc. dhclient on the FR shows the same kind of thing. Any hint ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Great :) one of the objectives fullfilled El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 13:26 +0100, Joseph Reeves escribió: Couldn't agree with this any more; thanks David! Joseph 2008/9/9 Andreas Micklei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brilliant! Of course the software and information to get to this software level is freely available. But your distribution is a HUGE timesaver allowing me to concentrate on the important stuff. Thanks for sharing! regards, Andreas Micklei ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
Does iwconfig power on then iwconfig power off help? (turns powersaving on then off - somewhat counter-intuitive :) BillK On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:51 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:39 +0200, Tore Martin Hagen wrote: Hi If you manage to get a DHCP reply it means that the WIFI connection is OK. But my experience is that WIFI can only connect once. So to test out the setup I would reboot. Do the iwconfig then do the ifconfig with a know address and then see if you can ping. Now that's impractical, seeing how long the boot time is :( Ok, I'll try that. Or maybe some rmmod+modprobe first. Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Donnerstag, den 11.09.2008, 15:51 +0200 schrieb Xavier Bestel: Ok, I'll try that. Or maybe some rmmod+modprobe first. Please report your results. Preferably on the support list ;-) Please, people, help triage message to appropriate lists. Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Hi all, (to be fare: I compare with my 4 years old sony ericsson P900 phone, and that one wins without problems for now) (Warning: no ranting please, I'm just summing up all current bugs I encounter and hope to get some pointers for fixes) For the moment I seem to be unable to find a distro where the basics work without issues (and I flashed/upgraded/installed already a number of times): - booting time: 2/3 minutes for asu. I can accept this for a beta functioning device, but I hope this gets better in the future. Yes, I know the wiki page for this ... luckely I don't reboot py phone too often - receive calls: calls arrive double on qtopia distro (not asu, no no sim card issue here), so for each call I end up having a missed call entry as well. Very annoying. - speaker: qtopia emits a very loud tone when on speaker - echo: the asu distro doesn't have the echo fix yet - choose a ringtone: ok, I can replace the wav file, but come on, no app available at all for asu? - alarm: I use my cell phone for wake-up calls, but ASU isn't reliable to give me the alarm. The phone unsuspends on time, but the alarm doesn't sound, or an undetermined amount of minutes too late. This seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem... - prevent the copying of sim-card contacts to your phone (qtopia and asu). Ok, I can remove them from the sim, or change the sqlite db on te phone, but this is a basic setting on any phone. - remove all contacts from the phone (qtopia and asu). Again I can just clean up the sqlite db file here, but a simple sql script executed by a gui would be nice. - mplayer: plays mp3 just fine, but qtopia or asu media players are unable to play back one mp3 fine without hickups or distortion (distortion can be fixed by editing the mp3 and decreasing the volume by 20dB). Is this gstreamer bogging down the phone or just bad mp3 decoding? - wifi: why on earth isn't wifi taking the nameservers given by dhcp? Is it the resolvconf issue that needs fixing here? Even my old archos 430 did that just fine from the beginning. Now I needed the usb0 connection working just to be able to get the wifi working, since no terminal app is installed by default on the phone. I did use the resolvconf wiki page to help me out here, but no dice for encrypted networks. Mofi maybe? - speed: asu reaction time is just too slow. Qtopia is reasonable here. - bluetooth: no app on asu, and the qtopia-x11 bluetooth app doesn't do anything. I haven't even tried image viewing yet, or gps ... I would have thought to be able to iron out bugs and such, but I was expecting basic working functionality. For now I have my freerunner lying on my desk at home, doing nothing at all ... Does the fdom version of ASU addresses some of the plain asu issues? Or any help solving some of these? I *really* want to show off my freerunner ... Franky You know, in the time you spent griping about these well known issues, you could have started writing a GUI to change your ringtone. Worse, people who are smarter than you or me could have spent the time they'll spend reading your message fixing issues instead. You say that This seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem, but it's also the only phone in the world where you can help fix these problems. You're dealing with an early version of Open Source software, live with it, or help fix it. We all want to see pretty GUIs and the other issues solved, but whining is not constructive. If you want to find fixes for these problems, try searching the lists. many of them have been discussed. /flame ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] xglamo howto?
Hi arne! I tested your package and it works as described. Thanks! It's great to have glamo and xrandr working in debian.. However there are some issues for me at this point: 1: running 'xrandr -o 1' twice results in still beeing in landscape mode but having a somehow messed up pointercalibration: clicks are about a 1/3 screen too far right. 2: I've set up debian with xfce as described in [1]. When restarting xfce I see X starting up 5 times, ending with a blank screen, showing INIT: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. Running 'xinit' as root from a ssh-session does work, (xfce comes up really fast!), but there are some problems with fonts, panel- and other configurations, e.g. cell-writer training data... I'm sure especially 2 is some kind of xinit-configuration issue - any hints? Cheers, radl [1]http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Running_X_as_normal_user ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using openocd
Hypnotize wrote: I have tried that to and get the same error messages! :( Hi! I go the debug board working the first time just a minute ago, but I had the same errors. Make sure, you have the flat flexible cable between debug board and freerunner completely plugged into the small connector on the freerunner. This solved my problems ;-) andi On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 07 September 2008 02:22:40 Hypnotize wrote: Hi, I cant get openocd working (with Debug Board v3 and GTA02), I just get this error message: $ openocd -f /etc/openocd/openocd.conf Info:openocd.c:84 main(): Open On-Chip Debugger (2007-01-31 12:00 CET) Error: ft2232.c:1351 ft2232_init(): unable to open ftdi device: ftdi_usb_reset failed sudo openocd? z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
Well a lot of information here I hope you or some one else report/reported to the tracking list. I will try to anser to the question can FDOM help? El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 15:44 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: Hi all, (to be fare: I compare with my 4 years old sony ericsson P900 phone, and that one wins without problems for now) (Warning: no ranting please, I'm just summing up all current bugs I encounter and hope to get some pointers for fixes) For the moment I seem to be unable to find a distro where the basics work without issues (and I flashed/upgraded/installed already a number of times): - booting time: 2/3 minutes for asu. I can accept this for a beta functioning device, but I hope this gets better in the future. Yes, I know the wiki page for this ... luckely I don't reboot py phone too often No same as 2008.8-updates - receive calls: calls arrive double on qtopia distro (not asu, no no sim card issue here), so for each call I end up having a missed call entry as well. Very annoying. - speaker: qtopia emits a very loud tone when on speaker - echo: the asu distro doesn't have the echo fix yet I don't know what asu version did you tried but I have no detected echo problems on the 2008.8-updates, so FDOM has no echo - choose a ringtone: ok, I can replace the wav file, but come on, no app available at all for asu? No but If anyone develop one I will include it on FDOM as soon as aviable - alarm: I use my cell phone for wake-up calls, but ASU isn't reliable to give me the alarm. The phone unsuspends on time, but the alarm doesn't sound, or an undetermined amount of minutes too late. This seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem... I have readed (not tested yet) than the last 2008.8-updates has solve this problem - prevent the copying of sim-card contacts to your phone (qtopia and asu). Ok, I can remove them from the sim, or change the sqlite db on te phone, but this is a basic setting on any phone. - remove all contacts from the phone (qtopia and asu). Again I can just clean up the sqlite db file here, but a simple sql script executed by a gui would be nice. I was able to delete the contacts and messages directly from the apps on the phone without the sim card, and no need to access the sqlite db. - mplayer: plays mp3 just fine, but qtopia or asu media players are unable to play back one mp3 fine without hickups or distortion (distortion can be fixed by editing the mp3 and decreasing the volume by 20dB). Is this gstreamer bogging down the phone or just bad mp3 decoding? I don't know, but I was thinking about do a basic frontend to mplayer like the omview to replace the media player, a file filebrowser and a basic control trough mouse gestures in the touch screen, but no find time yet to get my hands dirty on this - wifi: why on earth isn't wifi taking the nameservers given by dhcp? Is it the resolvconf issue that needs fixing here? Even my old archos 430 did that just fine from the beginning. Now I needed the usb0 connection working just to be able to get the wifi working, since no terminal app is installed by default on the phone. I did use the resolvconf wiki page to help me out here, but no dice for encrypted networks. Mofi maybe? Both a terminal and Mofi are included on FDOM, but is courios, I have to not to conect to usb before I want the wifi to make it work :) - speed: asu reaction time is just too slow. Qtopia is reasonable here. I have no feel any relevance diference here (I't true I have not tested the last qtopia version, so no much criteria here) FSDOM will have the same reaction as 2008.8-updates - bluetooth: no app on asu, and the qtopia-x11 bluetooth app doesn't do anything. Remoko is tested an will be included in the next version of FSDOM it works through bluethooth, so don't loos you hope yet :) I haven't even tried image viewing yet, or gps ... I'ts a pitty freerunnes has a great resolution on image, and on sunny days gps works pretty well I would have thought to be able to iron out bugs and such, but I was expecting basic working functionality. For now I have my freerunner lying on my desk at home, doing nothing at all ... Poor freerunner, surelly a lot of clean-soul good geeks but with no resources will be happy to take care of this freerunner, make it complile, or test new apps , or only taking a walk to help complete OSM,or...(add here a trillion of things people are doing/want to do if the had a neo) Does the fdom version of ASU addresses some of the plain asu issues? Or any help solving some of these? I *really* want to show off my freerunner ... Fat and Dirty Openmoko is nothing more than a 2008.8-update with apps installed and some fixes maybe it can fit you needs or not only you can anwer that question, try it and if you are happy/unhappy please let me know, I will be glad if you can send me and exhaustive bug/improvements list as you have done with other distributions. Franky
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
Well, you chose the hard way. The easy one was buying a Nokia or even an iPhone. But you wanted a free phone and this is what you get. I think you find the hard way much harder that you thought. So do I, but I can stand with it. I use the phone daily, and I also have had to deal with distro nightmare, with echo problems, gps problems, SD card problems, volume and usage problems,... But the software evolves quite quickly, and the community is enthusiastic and helps a lot. I definitely wouldn't buy a Freerunner for, say, my sister. At least, today. But seeing how it is evolving and growing I hope that, with my help (bug reports, ideas, explanations,...) and those of the community, someday I could. Don't desperate. PS- The vast majority of your question have been already answered on the lists and on the wiki. I know the distributions should include the corrections, but I think you have to be patient for it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
Hi David, tx for your answers already. I'll update again now to test the alarm functionality. The rest: see inline. On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:01:17 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip - prevent the copying of sim-card contacts to your phone (qtopia and asu). Ok, I can remove them from the sim, or change the sqlite db on te phone, but this is a basic setting on any phone. - remove all contacts from the phone (qtopia and asu). Again I can just clean up the sqlite db file here, but a simple sql script executed by a gui would be nice. I was able to delete the contacts and messages directly from the apps on the phone without the sim card, and no need to access the sqlite db. are you using the contact app for this? - mplayer: plays mp3 just fine, but qtopia or asu media players are unable to play back one mp3 fine without hickups or distortion (distortion can be fixed by editing the mp3 and decreasing the volume by 20dB). Is this gstreamer bogging down the phone or just bad mp3 decoding? I don't know, but I was thinking about do a basic frontend to mplayer like the omview to replace the media player, a file filebrowser and a basic control trough mouse gestures in the touch screen, but no find time yet to get my hands dirty on this Is kino2 a possibility as mplayer frontend? - wifi: why on earth isn't wifi taking the nameservers given by dhcp? Is it the resolvconf issue that needs fixing here? Even my old archos 430 did that just fine from the beginning. Now I needed the usb0 connection working just to be able to get the wifi working, since no terminal app is installed by default on the phone. I did use the resolvconf wiki page to help me out here, but no dice for encrypted networks. Mofi maybe? Both a terminal and Mofi are included on FDOM, but is courios, I have to not to conect to usb before I want the wifi to make it work :) I did need usb0 to set my /etc/resolv.conf file correct ... maybe that got fixed as well? - bluetooth: no app on asu, and the qtopia-x11 bluetooth app doesn't do anything. Remoko is tested an will be included in the next version of FSDOM it works through bluethooth, so don't loos you hope yet :) tx, I'll check out remoko also. Fat and Dirty Openmoko is nothing more than a 2008.8-update with apps installed and some fixes maybe it can fit you needs or not only you can anwer that question, try it and if you are happy/unhappy please let me know, I will be glad if you can send me and exhaustive bug/improvements list as you have done with other distributions. nope, totally happy with your answers. Tx! Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:18 +1000, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: The solution is absurdly simple. Use udhcpc not dhclient. Both are installed on 2008.8, only udhcpc does the right thing. Thanks, I'll try when I'm back home (not today). Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia
Jim Morris wrote: Radek Barton( wrote: 1. Download lastest gpsd source code at http://download.berlios.de/gpsd/gpsd-2.37.tar.gz and unpack it somewhere. 2. Add line #include linux/limits.h to gpsd.h-head file. 3. Modify line 15 of gps.h file from limits.h to linux/limits.h 4. configure with command: PATH=/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin: $PATH ./configure --host=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi 5. Then make, make install, etc. I can confirm that the method works well, maybe you should add in your blog post that libgps16, gps-utils and gpsd are needed. Another issue: qtgps keeps on saying that there an 'error opening gpsd', then i tried a low level access to gps, nothing worked (i already tried before flashing and it worked well). gps is power on # gpspipe -r gpspipe: could not connect to gpsd 127.0.0.1:2947, Connection refused(111) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtGps-for-Trolltechs-Qtopia-tp777344p1083110.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:01:17 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what asu version did you tried but I have no detected echo problems on the 2008.8-updates, so FDOM has no echo - choose a ringtone: ok, I can replace the wav file, but come on, no app available at all for asu? No but If anyone develop one I will include it on FDOM as soon as aviable Hi, just to let people know: I installed something (I guess it's qtopia-x11-ring-profile or so) that allows me now to choose mp3 as a ringtone as well ... need to test this out further, after I've decreased the volume on the mp3. - alarm: I use my cell phone for wake-up calls, but ASU isn't reliable to give me the alarm. The phone unsuspends on time, but the alarm doesn't sound, or an undetermined amount of minutes too late. This seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem... I have readed (not tested yet) than the last 2008.8-updates has solve this problem I just upgraded and did a quick test: it seems to work fine (no delay, sound at the correct time, screen stays dark but is awake). More testing is under way ... On a sidenote: why do all my mails appear twice on the list? Or am I subscribed twice by accident? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: *new version* A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo
http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2Database=*Query=transmogrificationOk,
so I've been slaving away over my (not so) little script, and it's about
time for another release.
Changes
- Utility now has the ability to flash the splash image as per request
- Utility can now also backup your device to flashable rootfs / kernel
images (david might like this for building FDOM images)
- Configurification is loaded on startup and saved in /etc/frutil (you
can only modify settings if you run it as root)
- more idiot proofing - uses 'which' to find dfu-util, checks to ensure
it's being run as root, checks that zenity is installed on the host,
checks that you have mkfs.jffs2 installed before backing up, checks that
you have pv installed and acts accordingly (by either using it or not
during the backup [this is not properly tested because I don't have pv,
please report]), and possibly other stuff I've forgotten about.
- new name to reflect the new abilities
Notes:
- I mentioned using dialog instead of zenity for a faster and more
consistent text-only interface. I investigated this, but dialog's file
selection dialog is so awful that I reconsidered and stuck with zenity.
if anybody knows of a decent text-based alternative like dialog but with
a better file selection dialog, I'd be interested to hear about it
- I recommend setting up an ssh authorized key before doing the backup,
otherwise you'll be prompted multiple times to enter the device's root
password. To do this, run 'ssh-keygen' on your host machine and then
copy the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub on your host into
/home/root/authorized keys on your device. This also means you don't
have to enter your password to ssh anymore.
- I'm taking suggestions for names. I've gone with 'frutil', but
'neotool' also appeals to me. I was calling it 'uberscript' there for a
while, but I'm not a big fan of that...
- I'll get around to making a wiki page for this and linking to it from
the flash and backup pages, but I won't complain if somebody beats me to
it. A copy is available for download at http://users.on.net/~antisol/frutil
Thoughts for future versions / when I have time:
- ability to specify the names of the backup images (currently hardcoded
to ./FreeRunner_rootfs_Backup_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.jffs2 and
./FreeRunner_Kernel_Backup_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.bin)
- ability to bypass the zenity menus via command-line parameters, i.e:
frutil --flash kernel ./kernelfile.bin rootfs ./rootfs.jffs
- another method of bypassing menus - you create symbolic links called
'neoflash' and 'neobackup', and the utility checks $0 on start and goes
straight to the applicable function, the same way busybox works
- maybe ability to auto-download more things from
downloads.openmoko.org, like the latest kernel / image?
- maybe addressbook management? ability to import contacts into the
device? to do this I'd have to find a way to determine which distro is
installed and act accordingly.
- things people suggest!
*
*As always, suggestions, comments, reports of catastrophic failure,
beer, job offers, sportscars, and millions of dollars are all
appreciated. ;)
enjoy!
-Dale
#!/bin/bash
#
# FreeRunner UberSkript 1.0
# By AntiSol, antisol (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net
# GNU GPL licensed
# loosely based on a script by 'rorschach'
# Thanks to:
# Charles Pax (suggestion to fetch dfu-util)
# David Samblas (info on 'which' command)
#
settings_file='/etc/frutil'
tmp_error_log_path='/tmp/flash-error-log'
if [ -z `which zenity 2/dev/null` ]; then
echo it looks like zenity isn't installed, and this tool requires it!
exit
fi
#function detect_FR {
# tmp=`ping -c 1 192.168.0.202`
# if [ $? != 0 ]; then
# echo no freerunner found!
# else
# echo Freerunner found at 192.168.0.1
# fi
#}
function find_dfu {
#use 'which'...
dfutils_path=`which dfu-util 2/dev/null`
if [ -z $dfutils_path ]; then
#look in current directory...
if [ -x './dfu-util' ]; then
dfutils_path='./dfu-util'
fi
fi
}
function check_dfu {
if [ ! -x $dfutils_path ]; then
find_dfu
if [ -z $dfutils_path ]; then
#not found.
zenity --title dfu-util not found --question --text
The dfu utility could not be found, or is not executable. Do you want to
automagically download it from downloads.openmoko.org?
if [ $? = 0 ]; then
clear
echo 'Downloading dfu-util...'
rm ./dfu-util /dev/null 21
Re: [Om2008.08] Desktop drawer submenu subdirectory
I'd like something like this too. Maybe you could open a trac ticket filling this feature request! But those tickets are only for bugs, aren't them? Where is the place to put feature requests? They are... You can flag a bug like enhancement. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: *new version* A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo
I'm an idiot, ignore the dict.org link. I pasted it into the email accidentally, and I thought I'd deleted it, but apparently not. damn HTML-format emails... :( Dale Maggee wrote: http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2Database=*Query=transmogrificationOk, so I've been slaving away over my (not so) little script, and it's about time for another release. Changes - Utility now has the ability to flash the splash image as per request - Utility can now also backup your device to flashable rootfs / kernel images (david might like this for building FDOM images) - Configurification is loaded on startup and saved in /etc/frutil (you can only modify settings if you run it as root) - more idiot proofing - uses 'which' to find dfu-util, checks to ensure it's being run as root, checks that zenity is installed on the host, checks that you have mkfs.jffs2 installed before backing up, checks that you have pv installed and acts accordingly (by either using it or not during the backup [this is not properly tested because I don't have pv, please report]), and possibly other stuff I've forgotten about. - new name to reflect the new abilities Notes: - I mentioned using dialog instead of zenity for a faster and more consistent text-only interface. I investigated this, but dialog's file selection dialog is so awful that I reconsidered and stuck with zenity. if anybody knows of a decent text-based alternative like dialog but with a better file selection dialog, I'd be interested to hear about it - I recommend setting up an ssh authorized key before doing the backup, otherwise you'll be prompted multiple times to enter the device's root password. To do this, run 'ssh-keygen' on your host machine and then copy the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub on your host into /home/root/authorized keys on your device. This also means you don't have to enter your password to ssh anymore. - I'm taking suggestions for names. I've gone with 'frutil', but 'neotool' also appeals to me. I was calling it 'uberscript' there for a while, but I'm not a big fan of that... - I'll get around to making a wiki page for this and linking to it from the flash and backup pages, but I won't complain if somebody beats me to it. A copy is available for download at http://users.on.net/~antisol/frutil Thoughts for future versions / when I have time: - ability to specify the names of the backup images (currently hardcoded to ./FreeRunner_rootfs_Backup_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.jffs2 and ./FreeRunner_Kernel_Backup_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.bin) - ability to bypass the zenity menus via command-line parameters, i.e: frutil --flash kernel ./kernelfile.bin rootfs ./rootfs.jffs - another method of bypassing menus - you create symbolic links called 'neoflash' and 'neobackup', and the utility checks $0 on start and goes straight to the applicable function, the same way busybox works - maybe ability to auto-download more things from downloads.openmoko.org, like the latest kernel / image? - maybe addressbook management? ability to import contacts into the device? to do this I'd have to find a way to determine which distro is installed and act accordingly. - things people suggest! * *As always, suggestions, comments, reports of catastrophic failure, beer, job offers, sportscars, and millions of dollars are all appreciated. ;) enjoy! -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
replies inline.. Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Dale, I *know* the state of the software, but I don't claim to be a kernel or qtopia developer. I have some knowledge in linux (enough to maintain some companies with it) but that doesn't mean I can do kernel development. I'm no kernel hacker either, nor am I capable in any kind of linux programming (with the exception of freepascal / lazarus). writing a small GUI in python is hardly kernel development. Think of it as a learning experience - I've become a much better bash scripter since getting my freerunner. One day I'll move onto python. then comes ??? and profit! ;) I would fix the alarm issue myself, but qtopia is kinda chinese code to me. And for gui development: I personally am a console freak, but when you want your phone to connect to your car, I don't see myself typing half an hour on the console of my phone first to get things going, so I would like a basic gui (but no experience there whatsoever). Like I said, everyone wants pretty GUIs, but I think that getting the low level stuff working properly is probably a slightly higher priority. Personally I'd prefer to see reliable suspend / resume before pretty GUIs. if you're really desperate for a GUI for something like connecting in your car, write yourself a script and make a .desktop file for it I expect bug reports to be equally important than the fixes, and my bugs are just questions I'm looking answers for, nothing more. And I already did a fair amount of wiki search, testing, etc ... The wiki is known and accepted to be in a pretty horrible state. This is something you don't even have to be a python developer to fix. You're better off searching the mailing lists [1] and bug reports [2], and if no bug exists, create one. I'm very sorry not to be a developer though ... you're not the only one - I'd love to be contributing more! My point though was more about the tone of your message. I also am not a linux developer, and I also was expecting the software to be in a much more functional state. I also was expecting a usable phone, which in my mind includes reliable suspend and resume functionality, but bringing negativity is not constructive and only serves to alienate the people who will be solving these problems for you. -D [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html [2] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/search?q= ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
On a sidenote: why do all my mails appear twice on the list? Or am I subscribed twice by accident? http://n2.nabble.com/Duplicates-td1078411ef1958.html#a1078411 http://n2.nabble.com/Duplicates-td1078411ef1958.html#a1078411 I amuse myself... ;) -D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIP on Debian
Peter Schwenke wrote: Using http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk//src/target/audio/om-gta02/voip-handset.state I was able to use linphone to connect to ekiga on another machine. The mic and speaker worked. The sound was a little soft and distorted. But I was juggling a headset on the other computer and the openmoko. Excellent news. This is what I'd use daily. Do you think the distortion was on the analog side e.g. volume settings, or delays on the network side? Were you using WiFi or Ethernet over USB? Were you speaking to yourself on the other computer, so not over the Internet? M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
Hi If you manage to get a DHCP reply it means that the WIFI connection is OK. But my experience is that WIFI can only connect once. So to test out the setup I would reboot. Do the iwconfig then do the ifconfig with a know address and then see if you can ping. Is anyone else have problem to connect WIFI to different access points in one session (I had the same problem when I tried the Debian distribution, but I assume they have the same wifi driver) Yes, I do. BTW in the kernel ml there was the idea of puttin the wifi driver in a module, so it will be possible to reload it and maybe to workaround this issue. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:57:03 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just to let people know: I installed something (I guess it's qtopia-x11-ring-profile or so) that allows me now to choose mp3 as a ringtone as well ... need to test this out further, after I've decreased the volume on the mp3. yup, this seems to working just fine: mp3 ringtones by default! Great! - alarm: I use my cell phone for wake-up calls, but ASU isn't reliable to give me the alarm. The phone unsuspends on time, but the alarm doesn't sound, or an undetermined amount of minutes too late. This seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem... I have readed (not tested yet) than the last 2008.8-updates has solve this problem I just upgraded and did a quick test: it seems to work fine (no delay, sound at the correct time, screen stays dark but is awake). More testing is under way ... Hmm ... more testing reveals the same: it only works correct once after a reboot. No more reliable alarm sound after that. Better luck next upgrade. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:35:51 +1000 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point though was more about the tone of your message. I also am not a linux developer, and I also was expecting the software to be in a much more functional state. I also was expecting a usable phone, which in my mind includes reliable suspend and resume functionality, but bringing negativity is not constructive and only serves to alienate the people who will be solving these problems for you. hmm .. maybe the tone of my original message was a bit off ... but after the x-th test I got tired of rebooting, testing, waiting for an alarm etc ... so I hereyby officialy appologize for the bad vibes I've send out. Now for the suspend/resume: here this has always worked fine, so can you tell me what doesn't work there? Maybe I can check/test that as well. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia
Dareus wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Radek Barton( wrote: 1. Download lastest gpsd source code at http://download.berlios.de/gpsd/gpsd-2.37.tar.gz and unpack it somewhere. 2. Add line #include linux/limits.h to gpsd.h-head file. 3. Modify line 15 of gps.h file from limits.h to linux/limits.h 4. configure with command: PATH=/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin: $PATH ./configure --host=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi 5. Then make, make install, etc. I can confirm that the method works well, maybe you should add in your blog post that libgps16, gps-utils and gpsd are needed. Done Another issue: qtgps keeps on saying that there an 'error opening gpsd', then i tried a low level access to gps, nothing worked (i already tried before flashing and it worked well). gps is power on # gpspipe -r gpspipe: could not connect to gpsd 127.0.0.1:2947, Connection refused(111) Make sure gpsd is instaled and running... /etc/init.d/gpsd start Also make sure there are no other gpsd daemons running hogging the serial port. -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: I would have thought to be able to iron out bugs and such, but I was expecting basic working functionality. For now I have my freerunner lying on my desk at home, doing nothing at all ... Same for me. I can't bare to give up on it though. It may not be a very useful phone, but I still like it as a device. I actually feel a bit guilty or disloyal saying that I'm disappointed, but the brutal truth is it doesn't make or receive calls as well as my first mobile many years ago. I love the idea of an open source phone, and I'm amazed at the effort and creativity of those involved. I think perhaps I was a little naive about how open source stuff gets done. That said, the process is fascinating too. I love the emergent aspect of a group of passionate creative people. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: I would have thought to be able to iron out bugs and such, but I was expecting basic working functionality. For now I have my freerunner lying on my desk at home, doing nothing at all ... Same for me. I can't bare to give up on it though. It may not be a very useful phone, but I still like it as a device. I actually feel a bit guilty or disloyal saying that I'm disappointed, but the brutal truth is it doesn't make or receive calls as well as my first mobile many years ago. I love the idea of an open source phone, and I'm amazed at the effort and creativity of those involved. I think perhaps I was a little naive about how open source stuff gets done. That said, the process is fascinating too. I love the emergent aspect of a group of passionate creative people. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Once I loaded the Qtopia build (4.3.2 080808) I found it to have the minimum amount of stability and functionality I need in a cell phone. I am able to make/receive calls and text without hassle and have even been able to put some music (.ogg) on the sdram and listen. I was lucky to purchase a couple of extra batteries so on a couple of occasions where the battery went dead I was able to switch it out and then later recharge the nearly dead battery using one of the tricks picked up in this list. I would heartily recommend the Qtopia build if you are not interested in spending most of your time SSHing into the phone. In fact I ended up picking up another one from someone who didn't have the time to develop and let me buy it for a considerable discount so I can use one and develop on the other. desNotes -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mac USB Networking
Hey all, Just got the FR yesterday (nice physical design). I installed the patched network driver listed under Apple CDC Ethernet driver 10.5.x, and the Networking pane shows a USB serial connection, but no ethernet. It also does not show up as enXX in ifconfig. This is OS X 10.5.4. I can use dfu-util fine. But, I haven't found a way to get the wifi working yet, so the device is networkless. Anyone else have a mac with a working usb networking setup? What'd you do? I'll happily update the wiki with the result. Here's my ifconfig when the device is plugged in (this was right before I did the dfu-util reflash): lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fd5d:a24b:2849:fed7:217:f2ff:fece:65ba prefixlen 128 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:17:f2:ce:65:ba media: autoselect status: inactive supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,hw-loopback 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,flow-control 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex,hw-loopback 100baseTX full-duplex,flow-control 1000baseT full-duplex 1000baseT full-duplex,hw-loopback 1000baseT full-duplex,flow-control none fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:19:e3:ff:fe:22:6b:5c media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::219:e3ff:fe04:85c2%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 10.0.1.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 ether 00:19:e3:04:85:c2 media: autoselect status: active supported media: autoselect vmnet8: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08 vmnet1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.74.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.74.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:01 Thanks in advance! -ls -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mac USB Networking
I had slightly more luck with the opensource zaurus driver also mentioned on the mac page - but I found neither solution worked well - after rebooting 6 or 7 times I think I managed to get the USB networking going once. I'm afraid I gave up and ended up just using a linux server that I was fortunate to have access to... I tried briefly using a Linux vmware image, but I also couldn't get that working. If anyone else has managed to get this to work, I'd love to hear about it... Warren On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Just got the FR yesterday (nice physical design). I installed the patched network driver listed under Apple CDC Ethernet driver 10.5.x, and the Networking pane shows a USB serial connection, but no ethernet. It also does not show up as enXX in ifconfig. This is OS X 10.5.4. I can use dfu-util fine. But, I haven't found a way to get the wifi working yet, so the device is networkless. Anyone else have a mac with a working usb networking setup? What'd you do? I'll happily update the wiki with the result. Here's my ifconfig when the device is plugged in (this was right before I did the dfu-util reflash): lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fd5d:a24b:2849:fed7:217:f2ff:fece:65ba prefixlen 128 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:17:f2:ce:65:ba media: autoselect status: inactive supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,hw-loopback 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,flow-control 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex,hw-loopback 100baseTX full-duplex,flow-control 1000baseT full-duplex 1000baseT full-duplex,hw-loopback 1000baseT full-duplex,flow-control none fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:19:e3:ff:fe:22:6b:5c media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::219:e3ff:fe04:85c2%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 10.0.1.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 ether 00:19:e3:04:85:c2 media: autoselect status: active supported media: autoselect vmnet8: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08 vmnet1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.74.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.74.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:01 Thanks in advance! -ls -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Finger-based un-predictive Qtopia keyboard
Hi all, I've hacked the layout of the qtopia keyboard, to make it usable without a stylus for sms. You can find the code and shots here: http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/openmoko/qtopia-touch-keyboard/ It is quite usable for me but greatly improvable. For example, instead of patching the original keyboard it would be better to add another plugin. Do you have an idea of how to set this keyboard as the default one? ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mac USB Networking
Hi Lally, Here are some notes I took when configuring the USB networking, it's not really different from the wiki page. It's working great on my macbook ( and with image 2008.8), it might help you: * Install AJZaurusUSB driver on mac: http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=AJZaurusUSB * After reboot, configure USB networking in Network pref panel: IP-V4: manual IP-Addr: 192.168.0.200 (you can use anything in 192.168.0.* but OM is configured by default to use 192.168.0.200 as the external gateway) Subnet: 255.255.255.0 (should be the default - see tip below if have issue with these settings) Router: 192.168.0.202 (not actually needed, OS X can figure this out for itself, unless you have other conflicting configurations) * Connect openmoko and: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * hotplug problem, disconnected network - change usb port, reboot computer * Some crash on the mac if you boot/shutdown with the usb plugged Alex El 12/09/2008, a las 0:25, Lally Singh escribió: Hey all, Just got the FR yesterday (nice physical design). I installed the patched network driver listed under Apple CDC Ethernet driver 10.5.x, and the Networking pane shows a USB serial connection, but no ethernet. It also does not show up as enXX in ifconfig. This is OS X 10.5.4. I can use dfu-util fine. But, I haven't found a way to get the wifi working yet, so the device is networkless. Anyone else have a mac with a working usb networking setup? What'd you do? I'll happily update the wiki with the result. Here's my ifconfig when the device is plugged in (this was right before I did the dfu-util reflash): lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fd5d:a24b:2849:fed7:217:f2ff:fece:65ba prefixlen 128 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:17:f2:ce:65:ba media: autoselect status: inactive supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,hw-loopback 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,flow-control 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex,hw-loopback 100baseTX full-duplex,flow-control 1000baseT full-duplex 1000baseT full-duplex,hw-loopback 1000baseT full-duplex,flow-control none fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:19:e3:ff:fe:22:6b:5c media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::219:e3ff:fe04:85c2%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 10.0.1.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 ether 00:19:e3:04:85:c2 media: autoselect status: active supported media: autoselect vmnet8: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08 vmnet1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.74.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.74.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:01 Thanks in advance! -ls -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIP on Debian
Michael Shiloh wrote: Do you think the distortion was on the analog side e.g. volume settings, or delays on the network side? I tried again last night when I had a second person. The distortion was not too bad. Gaps and missing chunks but promising. But there was a long delay receiving the audio. It might be networking or processing speed. Were you using WiFi or Ethernet over USB? Wifi on both ends with WPA2 encryption. I'll will try it over Ethernet over USB and ethernet on the other end. Were you speaking to yourself on the other computer, so not over the Internet? Yes, locally. I have tried and connected over the internet. Wireless going out over a 512/512Kb ADSL line and connecting to an actual Video Conferencing endpoint another ADSL line. I have 2 ADSL lines. Doing the above with Ekiga *some* muffled distorted sounds go back and forth. I receive the picture from the endpoint. But that stops updating straight away. Then sound stops. Limiting the call to audio only, I have had both SIP and H239 calls with Ekiga with the similar audio results. Received audio clearly on the FreeRunner for a while. Muffled distorted hardly going out. But after a while things don't well. I've used Ekiga a fair bit but know it can get dodgy over that ADSL line. I have been able to initiate and receive calls calls using Linphone over the Internet using the above gear. But I have not managed to get audio up and down. I have also been unable to get audio up and down with my laptop with Linphone so that problem is not only with the Openmoko. I have received the no webcam image from my laptop on the endpoint. All the routing from the firewall on the laptop/Freerunner end should be fine. I have tried linphone with and without the firewall setting. At some point I'm going to try setting the endpoint and phone up together on the same local switch. That will make it easier to work where the problems are. When I get (or build) a kernel with the uvcvideo driver I intend trying a webcam in usb host mode on the Freerunner and see what happens. ...Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mac USB Networking
What im doing is using a vmware virtual machine with linux mint installed (it was the only image i had lying around in my hd), so i just share the network using NAT and then the trick in the wiki (linux simple networking) after plugging the FR with the virtual machine focused. that way i can df-utils and get usb network to the FR. hope it helps! Warren Baird escribió: I had slightly more luck with the opensource zaurus driver also mentioned on the mac page - but I found neither solution worked well - after rebooting 6 or 7 times I think I managed to get the USB networking going once. I'm afraid I gave up and ended up just using a linux server that I was fortunate to have access to... I tried briefly using a Linux vmware image, but I also couldn't get that working. If anyone else has managed to get this to work, I'd love to hear about it... Warren On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Just got the FR yesterday (nice physical design). I installed the patched network driver listed under Apple CDC Ethernet driver 10.5.x, and the Networking pane shows a USB serial connection, but no ethernet. It also does not show up as enXX in ifconfig. This is OS X 10.5.4. http://10.5.4. I can use dfu-util fine. But, I haven't found a way to get the wifi working yet, so the device is networkless. Anyone else have a mac with a working usb networking setup? What'd you do? I'll happily update the wiki with the result. Here's my ifconfig when the device is plugged in (this was right before I did the dfu-util reflash): lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 http://127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fd5d:a24b:2849:fed7:217:f2ff:fece:65ba prefixlen 128 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:17:f2:ce:65:ba media: autoselect status: inactive supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,hw-loopback 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,flow-control 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex,hw-loopback 100baseTX full-duplex,flow-control 1000baseT full-duplex 1000baseT full-duplex,hw-loopback 1000baseT full-duplex,flow-control none fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:19:e3:ff:fe:22:6b:5c media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::219:e3ff:fe04:85c2%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 10.0.1.2 http://10.0.1.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 http://10.0.1.255 ether 00:19:e3:04:85:c2 media: autoselect status: active supported media: autoselect vmnet8: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.1.1 http://172.16.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255 http://172.16.1.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08 vmnet1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.74.1 http://172.16.74.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.74.255 http://172.16.74.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:01 Thanks in advance! -ls -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
milestone3 available in Debian
Hi, tonight we have packaged the new versions of zhone and frameworkd and adjusted the (slightly improved) installer script to install the FSO milestone3 kernel. So if you are running Debian already, you get the new stuff by running apt-get update; apt-get -u upgrade If you are not yet running Debian, you can follow the instructions on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner That said, I didn’t very thoroughly test the new versions, so it might be that you stumble upon stupid mistakes from me. Please let us know (at the smartphone-userland[1] mailing list, where most Debian related discussion take place) if you find any. Besides these new versions you might be interested to hear that remoko and pypennotes have been packaged for Debian, and fso-gpsd makes sure all gpsd-using applications (such as tangogps) work also. We still don’t have Illume, as we are still waiting for new Enlightenment libs being released and packaged for Debian. Greetings, Joachim for the pkg-fso team. [1] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/smartphones-userland -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs
On Thursday 11 September 2008 22:02:52 Cédric Berger wrote: there is already a qtopia update archive with qtopia stack files only. it comes with a little script to replace these files (/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/) (just beware if you have qtopia X11 apps installed, this script might delete them) I meant this snapshot http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=82 Ok, I guess I can strip what I need from the update. Thanks :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: *new version* A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo
So at some point here I'm guessing Zenity will have to be dropped in favor of maybe a Python + Glade combination. Is anyone out there capable and willing to do such a thing? It should probably happen sooner rather than later. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fantastic Experience
Hello All -- I'd like to pipe in with my New Freerunner experiences thus far. I have had my phone for 2 weeks. I loaded up OM2008.8-update. Here is the list : Solid GSM (Sending and Receiving). No Echo, clear calls, full bars. My SIM Card contact list imported automatically. SMS, Solid. Wifi, also works great. GPS works. 60 second TTFF and 40 second TTFF w/ external antenna (This is without the capacitor fix) microSd works. Suspend/Resume .. solid (minus the GUI setting having no effect. but I don't care, I just suspend manually with the power button when I'm not using it). I made a usb cable, so now my phone can receive standard USB devices.. this opens many doors. When I was shopping for a mobile computer/phone, I scraped the planet for something open and hackable. What I found was nice machines with propriety software that goes through a Telecom company, which is then purposely crippled and released for public consumption. Most of the crippling process is based on a Business model that nickels and dimes us to death for services and features that (I believe) we should already have. In the end, the only answer for me was to by the GTA02. I'd like to say, that I'm here to stay, on the band wagon, lets kick some ass... Completely Satisfied, Scott R Carlson -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fantastic-Experience-tp1084277p1084277.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIP on Debian
Peter Schwenke wrote: Limiting the call to audio only, I have had both SIP and H239 calls with That was meant to be H.323. ...Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
