Re: gsm modem and suspend
does no one else experience problems with suspend after turning off GSM modem? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
Hi, On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While thinking in power savings: is there a way to turn completely off the power of the Wifi chip, like we do it with the GPS: # echo 0 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron or with the GSM modem? Thx To turn off GSM modem: echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on Please note that suspend doesn't work after this! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
El día Tuesday, November 11, 2008 a las 09:47:24AM +0100, Christ van Willegen escribió: Hi, On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While thinking in power savings: is there a way to turn completely off the power of the Wifi chip, like we do it with the GPS: # echo 0 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron or with the GSM modem? Thx To turn off GSM modem: echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on Please note that suspend doesn't work after this! Thanks, but I was asking for Wifi :-) matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wiki: Applications page
Dear community: Application page of Wiki is top four popular now. It lists many applications , and help us take a quick look of what applications we have now. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications But but some information of this page is not that clear. Some application only had short description . No source code link , no screen shot etc. like this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Games I would like to fix the Application page , and make this easy to use. If you want to help , you can check this page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications_fix_list And help us fix the NO part. Or you are the owner of application , feel free to contact with me. Then I can upload the screen shot , correct the informations. I will continued update this fix list page. Feel free to let me know what I am missing? Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
power-on without battery!
Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
Sorry you are right! I forgot to mention that it was plugged in the USB port! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? so you were trying to boot without battery and without usb cable plugged and it booted and then stopped? can you be more specific...?! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
I think you should be more concerned with the clips that hold the back cover on your phone. I only remove the cover (very carefully) when my phone freezes). It's also easier to find a new battery insted of finding a new back cover for the freerunner. depeje Op Tuesday 11 November 2008 11:13:26 schreef Tony Berth: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 11.11.2008 um 10:35 schrieb Tony Berth: Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? Thanks Tony on booting the FR needs more than 100mA - and that's the limit as long as no system is running yet ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- so USB connection doesn't provide enough 'juice' to boot? The reason was to save on battery. Trying to avoid the memory effect! Thanks Tony signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Xorg 7.4 updates
Hi, I have been working on updating OE to Xorg 7.4 my work is in a branch held in the OE git. http://git.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/shared/xorg-7.4-update And today with a little help I got it to the point where on gta02 using fbdev we can run Xorg without any form of /etc/X11/xorg.conf which is one of our goals. http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/ddb1bbb5ccc99bc8d3d3e36dba2673d9.png Is picture of gta02 running Xorg 1.5.1 without xorg.conf The main discussion on this topic is continuing on openembedded-devel list if other people are interested in jumping in with fixes/improvements. Graeme (XorA) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] IM client pidgin for Om2008.9?
2008/11/11 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Is there a version which fits into Om2008.9? Thx I installed pidgin on 2008.9 by doing a opkg install pidgin. I had to set up angstrom repositories. ram http://www.hashcube.com http://ramprasad.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
2008/11/11 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I'm using the Illume keyboard as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume one question remains: the Wiki says «Then switch keyboard from None to Default in Illume's preferences.» Where I do that exactly? There is a small wrench on the top of the pull down menu that lets you change illume's preferences. You should also disable the default keyboard as mentioned in the wiki (adding export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia) ram http://www.hashcube.com http://ramprasad.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java On Openmoko
Hi, I'm curious if Neo FreeRunner supports Java applications. Does anybody know if Neo FreeRunner has support for Java? Googling this subject I understood that several projects aim to get Java working on Openmoko and I'm wondering if you have any idea if any of them succeeded? Adrian -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Java-On-Openmoko-tp1485337p1485337.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java On Openmoko
I've used Jalimo (https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko) to run a pretty complicated swing based java SE client on the FR, and it was quite successful. A little sluggish, but not bad, all things considered. I think you can also use the same environment to run java ME midlets as well, but I haven't tried that. Warren On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:58 AM, amidan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm curious if Neo FreeRunner supports Java applications. Does anybody know if Neo FreeRunner has support for Java? Googling this subject I understood that several projects aim to get Java working on Openmoko and I'm wondering if you have any idea if any of them succeeded? Adrian -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Java-On-Openmoko-tp1485337p1485337.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java On Openmoko
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Re: Java On Openmoko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 amidan schrieb: Hi, I'm curious if Neo FreeRunner supports Java applications. Does anybody know if Neo FreeRunner has support for Java? Googling this subject I understood that several projects aim to get Java working on Openmoko and I'm wondering if you have any idea if any of them succeeded? Adrian See the compare-table in the end of the site. There is java marked as a point http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions OM 2008.8 use jalimo as jvm. But i don't know where the diffrents to the normal jdk are.. - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJGZ96K9d7OHUJmA4RAqApAKCatHPIXhdAHAOl62rYtG6OSrgqbQCgtKUV yyfsNRf3dgxQe96dM9R+LxE= =LlGn -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli + Tichy
Mirko Lindner wrote: In short it would look something like: *phone booting *tichy starting (includes edje bindings, fso, check of desktop files etc) and listening for dbus calls *a user clicks on a desktop file *tichy picks up signal and starts application *when application is closed, window is destroyed but tichy keeps on running In case tichy is not running when the user clicks on an icon it starts first and then displays the plugin. How does this sound? Good. This is what I was hoping you was implementing :P This seems the good way, I just hope that the tichy daemon won't use too much resources and that it will be able to launch its plugins smoothly! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] IM client pidgin for Om2008.9?
It is preinstalled at FDOM. (Maybe try that since many applications are installed yet) Those dependencies are just warnings and you can forget about them. Then you'll probably need the libpurple ipk's for pidgin to be able to connect to icq/msn/google talk, etc... also lib purple ssl is needed (3 ipk's) You can find everything at the angstrom repositries Pieter Ramprasad Rajendran wrote: 2008/11/11 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Is there a version which fits into Om2008.9? Thx I installed pidgin on 2008.9 by doing a opkg install pidgin. I had to set up angstrom repositories. ram http://www.hashcube.com http://ramprasad.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Om2008.9--IM-client-pidgin-for-Om2008.9--tp1484767p1485585.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
On 2008-11-07 16:33:09 +0100, arne anka wrote: i still have no idea how an easily recognized icon for gps should look like. Ideas I can think of: Map, satellite, globe, grid, radio-signal. A map is probably not easily recognizable at icon size. A satellite alone misses the point. Globe + satellite + signal + position indicator is already taken by TangoGPS and probably too complex anyway. Just a globe with a crosshair over it (as position indicator) would be pretty good, I think. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| Openmoko has already embedded |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | voting system. | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Named If you want it -- write it __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Ilja O. on community@lists.openmoko.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
Christian Adams wrote: on booting the FR needs more than 100mA - and that's the limit as long as no system is running yet I wonder if the processor will start up far enough that it would be possible to negotiate more USB power in the bootloader. Also, one thing I find rather annoying: Why does the Freerunner have to power-on if I plug in the usb cable? (Given that other side of the cable is already connected to running computer) I'd prefer having to push the power button even in that case. If the reason is to negotiate more current for charging, I'd again point to 'the bootloader should do that and then send the phone to sleep'. :) Just my 2 cents. -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de このメールは十割再利用されたビットで作られています。 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Cédric Berger wrote: Last android image/kernel from Sean (http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ) indeed resolved the page flipping problem. Is there a particular magic needed to make this work? I got the jffs and uImage from the page, flashed it on the Neo, and after reboot the screen goes and remains black. A pretty shade of black, but still I had hoped for a bit more... like less black. Paul -- Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together. -Anais Nin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
if you did not install previous android image, check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 . You must have an sd card with at least 2 partitions, the second being ext3 formatted. Android will write data on it. Great, thank you for the information!! Paul -- Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together. -Anais Nin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Fun, nice, pretty, awesome. Do I recall correctly that FR/Android can so far not unlock a SIM card? In Debian/Zhone it works fine. Thanks, Paul -- Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together. -Anais Nin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9 , FDOM] gsm modem and suspend
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:09 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does no one else experience problems with suspend after turning off GSM modem? could you please prefix the subject with distribution used? thanks. i am not able to infer, what exactly you're doing: - disabling gsm via call to sysfs - calling apm -s manually ? or - disabling gsm via call to sysfs - pressing pwr/hitting a button/ whatever your distribution offers to suspend ? yes calling apm -s gives device or resource busy and pressing pwr button turns the screen off but not suspending, but u have ssh still active and everything still on, only screen off, so both ways disabling gsm via call to sysfs is disabling us from suspend what i could think of is, that (either as script executed by apm or as part of your distribution's way to suspend) there are requests made to the gsm, to prepare suspend: - minimize rescanning - go to sleep state since gsm is powered of. these request do a) not return or b) not successfully case a) a timeout is probably to big -- decreasing might lead to b) b) the returncode != success in turn results in an uncatched exception that prevents any further process of suspend yes that's what i believe but problem is i don't know how the distribution goes to do the suspend exactly, any references to how suspend is being called in om2008.9 ? does the same occur in debian arne? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java On Openmoko
amidan schrieb: Hi, I'm curious if Neo FreeRunner supports Java applications. Does anybody know if Neo FreeRunner has support for Java? Googling this subject I understood that several projects aim to get Java working on Openmoko and I'm wondering if you have any idea if any of them succeeded? Adrian Sure it works! here's a quick guide (tested on fdom) - works flawlessly! opgk install cacao opkg install calsspath opkg install classpath-gtk (only if you want to run gui programms) it even suppors swing, but to do yourself a favor, start programming awt apps - you're gonna save yourself alot of trouble! well one thing: try installing the packages with -force-depends parameter if needed and if it gives you warnings either manually install the needed packages or it they are already installed, just ignore the warings. if you want to run gui apps you have to scp your core.jar form you pc onto your freerunner: check this out: jmccloud.funpic.de download exec.sh, core.jar and opg.jar into the same folder on you fr and sh exec.sh (the exec.sh shows you how to run java apps) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?
Hi Marcus, On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the next release ready and will try to get it out this week. Am still developing tarball only but will switch to GIT and put up somewhere a repository. Do you plan to improve threading model of TangoGPS? I've looked into the code at some points and found it horribly violating POSIX recommendadtions. We're looking for some simple GPS application to use in our project and I consider TangoGPS as well. But if it won't get better we'll have to either fix it by ourselves or likely choose other application as a base. Don't take this question offensive - I'm just wondering, because I have to make my choice without further regrets. -- Regards, Alexander Chemeris. SIPez LLC. SIP VoIP, IM and Presence Consulting http://www.SIPez.com tel: +1 (617) 273-4000 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
Tony Berth wrote: so USB connection doesn't provide enough 'juice' to boot? The reason was to save on battery. Trying to avoid the memory effect! Li-Ion and LiPo don't suffer from memory effect: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-5A.htm Do not discharge lithium-ion too deeply. Instead, charge it frequently. Lithium-ion does not have memory problems like nickel-cadmium batteries. No deep discharges are needed for conditioning. -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de このメールは十割再利用されたビットで作られています。 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Hi, I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz. There's some other problems though, but I'm sure they are minor. One problem I have had with every distribution and I haven't seen mentioned else where is that the phone takes too long to answer a call. First it takes too long for it to start ringing (only vibrate). Then there's a delay before the ring tone play. Then there's a delay from I press the answer button to it reacts .. and by then my voice mail has usually given up and taken the call. /Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] IM client pidgin for Om2008.9?
Hello I'm interested in installing the IM client Pidgin; the Wiki speaks about it was tested on Om2008.8 but directs one to the Angstrom Repositories; I've fetched pidgin_2.5.1-r0.1_armv4t.ipk but the installation requires a lot of newer shared libs: # opkg install pidgin_2.5.1-r0.1_armv4t.ipk Installing pidgin (2.5.1-r0.1) to root... pidgin: unsatisfied recommendation for libpurple-plugin-ssl-gnutls pidgin: unsatisfied recommendation for libpurple-protocol-irc pidgin: unsatisfied recommendation for libpurple-protocol-xmpp Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for pidgin: * libgnt0 (= 2.5.1) * libpurple (= 2.5.1) * * libdbus-glib-1-2 (= 0.76) * libdbus-1-3 (= 1.2.1) * * libgobject-2.0-0 (= 2.18.1) * libgmodule-2.0-0 (= 2.18.1) * * libgthread-2.0-0 (= 2.18.1) * libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.18.1) * * libxml2 (= 2.7.2) * gtk+ (= 2.14.2) * libgio-2.0-0 * (= 2.18.1) * pango (= 1.22.0) * libcairo2 (= 1.7.6) * * libpixman-1-0 (= 0.12.0) * libpng12-0 (= 1.2.31) * Is there a version which fits into Om2008.9? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Hi Peter, I haven't tried FSO yet - maybe I should now - but I've been using QTExtended 4.4.2 for a bit over a week now, and it seems to be much more responsive - when I was running the 2008.8 based images I regularly missed calls because by the time the phone started to ring, my voice mail had already picked up. With QtE, I haven't had that problem. Warren On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Peter Mogensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz. There's some other problems though, but I'm sure they are minor. One problem I have had with every distribution and I haven't seen mentioned else where is that the phone takes too long to answer a call. First it takes too long for it to start ringing (only vibrate). Then there's a delay before the ring tone play. Then there's a delay from I press the answer button to it reacts .. and by then my voice mail has usually given up and taken the call. /Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Hi, Last android image/kernel from Sean (http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ) indeed resolved the page flipping problem. (screen refreshes flashing, especially with dialogs and combo box) Thanks Sean ! - Bluetooth is also working now (well I could not really test yet, but at least now it correctly scans available bluetooth devices). - Still no luck with wifi (unable to scan for networks). - I could not have GPS working. I tried with GPSTracker, but it keeps asking for GPS activation, which I had done in Android settings. (note that GPSTracker requires a key from its website, and since I had no keyboard to enter it, I did the settings on the emulator then copy GPSTracker setting files directly into my SD card ) - I tried the demo game Fishocopter. It works... but it uses back button to control the game (so it is Aux button on Neo), and I found no way to exit the game, since Aux button did not anymore end application. Is there a way to kill such an application ? Power button only allowed me to shutdown (to install applications, since I could not have abd working, I directly copy .apk files into my SD card under mmcblk0p2/app/ ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
Well, I've been running QtE for a bit over a week now, and I wanted to give kudos to Lorn and the QT team for making the FR something close to a usable phone... It's not perfect yet- I'm still using the original images, so I don't have bluetooth working, and there are a few other gaps, but at least I haven't missed any calls due to slow responsiveness. I've been rebooting the phone every day or two, and perhaps that's why I haven't yet seen the strange instablities I was seeing earlier with FDOM and QtE 4.4.1 - but the basic phone functionality has been pretty reliable - I used the phone on a short business trip, and aside from having to reboot to get out of 'airplane' mode, it worked well. QtE also has *way* better battery life than anything else I've tried - I can go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone. For the first time, I'm starting to feel like I can use my FR as a phone. Of course, I haven't had time to install any interesting software on the phone, get wifi or gprs working, get the gps working, or anything like that, so things may get more interesting at that point - but I've gone more than a week without feeling the need to put my Sim back in my old cell phone. Warren On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying out QT Extended 4.4.2 for a few days now, and I thought I'd share my observations so far: - Stability seems better than I originally thought - After my one experience seeing it not wake up from suspend on a call, I haven't noticed any other issues - I've received a fair number of calls and sms's, and the phone has always woken up. - The biggest issue for me atm is that I don't get an audible ring tone for either calls or sms messages - This is a regression since QtE 4.4.1 - any suggestions on how to resolve it would be very welcome. - I've missed one un-expected phone call because by the time I noticed the vibration and got the phone out of my pocket, all I saw was the dreaded 'view missed calls?'. However, I think this is more related to the lack of an audible ring, rather than the problem I saw in OM2008.8 where by the time the phone woke up from suspend the call had gone to voice mail. I was able to sucessfully answer an unexpected call this morning, which I don't think *ever* happened with OM2008.8 - Battery life is *much* improved over OM2008.8 - I went more than 24 hours without recharging and still had two bars of battery left. There are a few minor issues I've noticed: - the lack of an icon for the terminal in the apps list is annoying. Does QT Extended provide a 'run' capability, which would allow a user to directly enter an application to run? - 4.4.1 provided 3 different appearance themes - but 4.4.2 only provides 1, and unfortunately it's not the one I preferred. - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a regression from 4.4.1. Even with the various annoyances and regressions, QT Extended is the closest I've seen so far to making my OM usable as a daily phone. I haven't seen the behaviour I saw once with OM2008.8 and once with 4.4.1 where the phone gets into a strange state where it can no longer make or recieve calls - we'll see if I bump into that one eventually or not... Warren ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.8, FDOM] Addressbook entries
I have a question about how you guys are entering your contacts. If I receive a SMS the phone number reports +1555444 then when I receive a call it reports the same number but missing the '+' It seems that these are looked up in the address book and reported as two different phone numbers. is anyone else seeing the same results and has anyone remedied this? I thought about adding both phone numbers to my address book, but I figured I would check here before I started editing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
Warren Baird wrote: Well, I've been running QtE for a bit over a week now, and I wanted to give kudos to Lorn and the QT team for making the FR something close to a usable phone... It's not perfect yet- I'm still using the original images, so I don't have bluetooth working, and there are a few other gaps, but at least I haven't missed any calls due to slow responsiveness. I've been rebooting the phone every day or two, and perhaps that's why I haven't yet seen the strange instablities I was seeing earlier with FDOM and QtE 4.4.1 - but the basic phone functionality has been pretty reliable - I used the phone on a short business trip, and aside from having to reboot to get out of 'airplane' mode, it worked well. QtE also has *way* better battery life than anything else I've tried - I can go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone. really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel. For the first time, I'm starting to feel like I can use my FR as a phone. Of course, I haven't had time to install any interesting software on the phone, get wifi or gprs working, get the gps working, or anything like that, so things may get more interesting at that point - but I've gone more than a week without feeling the need to put my Sim back in my old cell phone. Warren On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying out QT Extended 4.4.2 for a few days now, and I thought I'd share my observations so far: - Stability seems better than I originally thought - After my one experience seeing it not wake up from suspend on a call, I haven't noticed any other issues - I've received a fair number of calls and sms's, and the phone has always woken up. - The biggest issue for me atm is that I don't get an audible ring tone for either calls or sms messages - This is a regression since QtE 4.4.1 - any suggestions on how to resolve it would be very welcome. - I've missed one un-expected phone call because by the time I noticed the vibration and got the phone out of my pocket, all I saw was the dreaded 'view missed calls?'. However, I think this is more related to the lack of an audible ring, rather than the problem I saw in OM2008.8 where by the time the phone woke up from suspend the call had gone to voice mail. I was able to sucessfully answer an unexpected call this morning, which I don't think *ever* happened with OM2008.8 - Battery life is *much* improved over OM2008.8 - I went more than 24 hours without recharging and still had two bars of battery left. There are a few minor issues I've noticed: - the lack of an icon for the terminal in the apps list is annoying. Does QT Extended provide a 'run' capability, which would allow a user to directly enter an application to run? - 4.4.1 provided 3 different appearance themes - but 4.4.2 only provides 1, and unfortunately it's not the one I preferred. - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a regression from 4.4.1. http://4.4.1. Even with the various annoyances and regressions, QT Extended is the closest I've seen so far to making my OM usable as a daily phone. I haven't seen the behaviour I saw once with OM2008.8 and once with 4.4.1 where the phone gets into a strange state where it can no longer make or recieve calls - we'll see if I bump into that one eventually or not... Warren ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:33:42AM +0100, Lothar Behrens wrote: Thanks, I had some more look about other cards about 8GB, but if there are more users having success, I will buy this card. For me the 8 GB card which I have works also great (booting Debian from it). With older kernels the card don't works, so I have compiled it for my self. Here the informations about my card: SD-Card Informations Vendor Sandisk TypemicroSDHC Size8 GB GTA02v6 # mmcinit Card Type: SD 2.0 SDHC Manufacturer: 0x03, OEM SD Product name: SU08G, revision 8.0 Serial number: 1883229435 Manufacturing date: 8/2008 MMC/SD size:3MiB Regards Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 11.11.2008, 19:54 +0100 schrieb Peter Mogensen: I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz. same here, buzz and echo seem to be gone. Although I think the other side’s volume is a bit low here, and vica versa – what do you think? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
Yup - I charged overnight the night before last, unplugged about 8am yesterday, and at about 3pm today apm is reporting the battery at 50%. The only thing I tweaked was to set the phone to suspend after 40s. I was originally afraid this would break receiving messages and sms's, but it seems to have caused no issues... Warren On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Cédric Berger wrote: Hi, Last android image/kernel from Sean (http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ) indeed resolved the page flipping problem. (screen refreshes flashing, especially with dialogs and combo box) Thanks Sean ! - Bluetooth is also working now (well I could not really test yet, but at least now it correctly scans available bluetooth devices). - Still no luck with wifi (unable to scan for networks). - I could not have GPS working. I tried with GPSTracker, but it keeps asking for GPS activation, which I had done in Android settings. (note that GPSTracker requires a key from its website, and since I had no keyboard to enter it, I did the settings on the emulator then copy GPSTracker setting files directly into my SD card ) - I tried the demo game Fishocopter. It works... but it uses back button to control the game (so it is Aux button on Neo), and I found no way to exit the game, since Aux button did not anymore end application. Is there a way to kill such an application ? Power button only allowed me to shutdown (to install applications, since I could not have abd working, I directly copy .apk files into my SD card under mmcblk0p2/app/ ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - Blutetooth is working ( but we still need keyboard for secret pin) No hidd command - we cannot start play with BT keyboard. - Wifi is working by hand: - copy working wpa_supplicant.conf to phone - login via adb shell - use commanddhcpcd eth0 - check and write correct data togetprop and sendprop ... - included web browser not start at all - installed by adb install ... news reader is working !! - I think, important is: keyboard ( virtual or/and bluetooth ) and working web browser Thanks Sean !!! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-android--new-version-with-page-flipping-corrected.-tp1484538p1486014.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Virtual music instrument using microphone and touchscreen
Verny nice, too bad our display doesn't do multi-touch.. :-( On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Folks, I know being just a follower could be bad, but I liked these iPhone videos so I wanted to share : http://www.korben.info/un-ocarina-dans-votre-iphone.html A fun idea don't you think ? Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
Matthias Apitz wrote: While thinking in power savings: is there a way to turn completely off the power of the Wifi chip ifconfig eth0 down should do it, but in my experience it continues to draw the battery :|. I guess we should wait the stable-tracking module implementation. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Warren Baird wrote: I haven't tried FSO yet - maybe I should now - but I've been using QTExtended 4.4.2 for a bit over a week now, and it seems to be much more responsive - when I was running the 2008.8 based images I regularly missed calls because by the time the phone started to ring, my voice mail had already picked up. With QtE, I haven't had that problem. Qtopia 4.4.2 crashed before I could to answer my first call. Anyway... I had it only installed to see the changes. On the other hand... FSO4 managed to send all my SMS messages back to their sender tonight. ... you have been warned: Think carefully before pressing any buttons :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:54:37 +0100 Peter Mogensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz. There's some other problems though, but I'm sure they are minor. One problem I have had with every distribution and I haven't seen mentioned else where is that the phone takes too long to answer a call. First it takes too long for it to start ringing (only vibrate). Then there's a delay before the ring tone play. Then there's a delay from I press the answer button to it reacts .. and by then my voice mail has usually given up and taken the call. /Peter Well, I haven't tried calling just yet, so no feedback there. But some pro's and cons: Pro: - cool interface - sweet hover effect when you click the battery icon, now an alarm/clock app when you click on the clock icon would be great :-) Unfortunately none of the registered alarm projects seem to be maintained. Is there another way of doing this? Using at ourselves? Con: - numphysics app seems to crash all the time (maybe it just needs some extra packages?) - suspend doesn't work, since the touchscreen still responds when I touch it after it should've suspended ... this one should get fixed - the mediaplayer app crashes most of the times when you switch between songs Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:29:27 +0100 Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't tried calling just yet, so no feedback there. But some pro's and cons: Pro: - cool interface - sweet hover effect when you click the battery icon, now an alarm/clock app when you click on the clock icon would be great :-) Unfortunately none of the registered alarm projects seem to be maintained. Is there another way of doing this? Using at ourselves? Con: - numphysics app seems to crash all the time (maybe it just needs some extra packages?) - suspend doesn't work, since the touchscreen still responds when I touch it after it should've suspended ... this one should get fixed - the mediaplayer app crashes most of the times when you switch between songs To continue my testes: - tichy just gives me a black page, maybe that is because there is no SIM card inserted? But I can't get it to quit now, not without using ssh and killing manually. - pythm (mplayer app) doesn't give any output anymore, the reason seems to be tichy taking /dev/dsp for itself. Killing tichy resolves this. Btw: this app seems more stable to play mp3 files ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
repos?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello there, does someone knows what's going wrong with the repos? i read a lot the tip to use testing-repos. so i does it, but as example, i couldn't install anymore openmoko-terminal2, the depency libgobject-2.0-0 isn't anywhere too. so it's really strange. does the project go backwards? does someone know, why these packages aren't there anymore?!? greets - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJGbEeK9d7OHUJmA4RAq9FAJ9pLcL5+XtSE5h1R3kmc6xUmzBpggCePL04 9BMUoZf+LTOQh2VqHegPZDY= =luEl -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko chronology
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:09 PM, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 10-11-2008 a las 10:39 +0100, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Hi, I think openmoko-the-project was founded not by FIC but by a core team comprising a handfull of german devs (Sean, I guess Harald, and others but the The original core team page was deleted from the wiki on Sep. 2, 2008). You could try to contact one of them for a 10mn phone interview. That's why I put the draft of the chrono, to fix any mistake ;) , until new order I will omit any FIC refrence If I may suggest an angle for your story, beyond listing software releases (btw I would not count Qi in yet), what I find most fascinating is how a small player can live and prosper in the middle of well entrenched giants. They/we are heading straight towards Apple and Microsoft marketspace, on the shoulders of FIC, with Nokia and Swisscom pushing to help, and Google playing the game with a hidden hand too. Well this crono y for presentation very introductory oriented, to make the propoject known to also GNU/Linux public, you orientation is more for a market/business oportunity one, and maybe is a little to preach to already converted ;) But yes this part of Openmoko story is pretty interesting and must be telled. I will try to work on this later. Otherwise don't miss the Dash Express deal: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/dash-express-powered-by-openmokos-neo-open-source-hardware-plat/ my guess is that was a key early success to the company. Ok I will add it. But don't miss also this news: http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/dash-cuts-50-employees-drastically-changing-business-model/ Sadly just having a good idea and open implementation is not enough to change the world. Hopefully Dash will turn back to own hardware model if it succeded in software-only solution. I also expect the significance of the Koolu deal to be clearer before the end of the year (they must be NDAed to the ears), so if you have a 'future' section in your talk, don't forget them. I like the NDAed to the ears expresion :) Minh David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Regards, Alexander Chemeris. SIPez LLC. SIP VoIP, IM and Presence Consulting http://www.SIPez.com tel: +1 (617) 273-4000 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]
I tried some SDHC cards. I created multiple partitions. The first one on 2GiB, the second one also on 2GiB and the final on the remaining free space. The problem I discovered (some time ago) was that information written to the final partition (and maybe also the second) would get corrupted very easy. When I did a rm -rf * on that partition, umounted and then mounted it again, the filenames would appear from ls. Did you test the whole cards, or did you only use the first 2GiB? -- Flemming -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Font size problem
I have been running software on the FR from my host computer over ssh using the -Y option, so that windows appear on my host computer. But the font size is so small it is unreadable. For specific example, see Games Net on the FR or run /usr/games/net via ssh. The text appears to be about 10 pixels high on the FR, but only 3 high on the host. Whose problem is that? Also, while I am here, how can I run the desktop over ssh? Michael --- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] What a wonderfull world
Dito. There's just one thing that's kind of a showstopper for me. I can't receive sms. Sorry that I can't provide any useful data except for the fact that I didn't receive a test-sms I sent to my number. Anyone experiencing the same? This was the case with at least two of the previous fso-images. I'm not even sure if I ever got a msg using FSO. There's been a lot of progress otherwise and I'd love to use fso on a daily basis. Thanks guys! Best regards, Chris Morten wrote: This is just a spontane post, I just booted the new milestone and.. Wow! What a wonderfull theme! But not just that, sounds perfect and crisp too! Things are starting to look good OM you guys've done a great job with the framework. Thank you! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-M4--What-a-wonderfull-world-tp1486937p1487029.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
Hello, I'm using the Illume keyboard as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume one question remains: the Wiki says «Then switch keyboard from None to Default in Illume's preferences.» Where I do that exactly? The background of my question is: I wanna change the default so that the 'querty' brings up the 'Terminal' type keyboard and not the 'Default' which is nearly unusable and not even allows you to enter a PIN; I already two times to enter a PIN hit 'Enter' instead the switch-symbol of the Illume keyboard :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:47, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a particular magic needed to make this work? I got the jffs and uImage from the page, flashed it on the Neo, and after reboot the screen goes and remains black. A pretty shade of black, but still I had hoped for a bit more... like less black. if you did not install previous android image, check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 . You must have an sd card with at least 2 partitions, the second being ext3 formatted. Android will write data on it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 11.11.2008 um 10:35 schrieb Tony Berth: Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? Thanks Tony on booting the FR needs more than 100mA - and that's the limit as long as no system is running yet ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFJGVhur81gVylJyzERAoIcAKCuavYUT4ecEBeURgZLIq2ZBEzRiwCfU2ct tr5JQ758GUAbkWJG2OOPdMc= =Vt/O -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
Tony Berth ha wrote: I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? IIRC at some points 500mA are too few to run the FR (there was some threads in kernel ML), that's why it can't boot using just the standard PC USB connection. It should work using the wall charger... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] What a wonderfull world
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dito. There's just one thing that's kind of a showstopper for me. I can't receive sms. Sorry that I can't provide any useful data except for the fact that I didn't receive a test-sms I sent to my number. In order to confirm whether this is a bug, edit frameworkd.conf and put the following behind log_level = INFO log_to = file log_destination = /tmp/frameworkd.log Then modify log_level = INFO for log_level = DEBUG and restart frameworkd (/etc/init.d/frameworkd restart), and try again to send yourself an SMS. If it still doesn't work, you'd be able to give full logs for the FSO team on their trac :-). -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm modem and suspend
does no one else experience problems with suspend after turning off GSM modem? could you please prefix the subject with distribution used? thanks. i am not able to infer, what exactly you're doing: - disabling gsm via call to sysfs - calling apm -s manually ? or - disabling gsm via call to sysfs - pressing pwr/hitting a button/ whatever your distribution offers to suspend ? what i could think of is, that (either as script executed by apm or as part of your distribution's way to suspend) there are requests made to the gsm, to prepare suspend: - minimize rescanning - go to sleep state since gsm is powered of. these request do a) not return or b) not successfully case a) a timeout is probably to big -- decreasing might lead to b) b) the returncode != success in turn results in an uncatched exception that prevents any further process of suspend ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 11.11.2008 um 10:35 schrieb Tony Berth: Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? Thanks Tony on booting the FR needs more than 100mA - and that's the limit as long as no system is running yet ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- so USB connection doesn't provide enough 'juice' to boot? The reason was to save on battery. Trying to avoid the memory effect! Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM Testing: task-openmoko-qtopia-x11 has unsatisfied gstreamer depencies
As today there's now a qtopia-phone-x11-media-gstreamer package in testing back again! :) In the meantime i have installed the one from stable - strange there was qtopia-phone-x11-media-gstreamer package in stable and unstable branch the whole time even there were licensing issues... Anyway, thank you for solving this issue! cheers Benson John Lee wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:41:51PM +0800, Ray Chao wrote: Hi Martin, According to Julian, we were taking out a package due to license issue since last Friday, that should be reason for this issue. This might be the cause, but the issue itself still need to be fixed. Please create a ticket if the issue still exists. Currently, we are working on this. Please kindly wait for further notice of this issue within this thread. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Ray Chao Openmoko System Admin. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/OM-Testing%3A-task-openmoko-qtopia-x11-has-unsatisfied-gstreamer-depencies-tp1449084p1487100.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:24, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I tried the demo game Fishocopter. It works... but it uses back button to control the game (so it is Aux button on Neo), and I found no way to exit the game, since Aux button did not anymore end application. Is there a way to kill such an application ? Power button only allowed me to shutdown Looks like I did not try enough -my timings were not good enough I guess-. This time I managed to exit with power button hold for 2 seconds. (locks screen, then you're back to home). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Codeswarm
Hi all, Anyone interested in making a codewarm http://vis.cs.ucdavis.edu/~ogawa/codeswarm/ of the OpenMoko svn? Perhaps it could also be incorporated in the daily build. Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
2008/11/5 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My GSM icon is indicating off, even after I got notification windows correctly indicating my provider (T-Mobile) and a reasonable-sounding signal strength... I just updated to the latest version and now it is exiting after producing the attached output. This happens shortly after I have - used aptitude to upgrade - used kill to kill the old running version - started the new version with openmoko-panel-plugin opp.log 21 Let me know if you'd like further experiments... Neil ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.2:/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] IM client pidgin for Om2008.9?
or extract the info from the FDOMizer script and use that ... BillK On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 20:06 +0530, Ramprasad Rajendran wrote: 2008/11/11 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Is there a version which fits into Om2008.9? Thx I installed pidgin on 2008.9 by doing a opkg install pidgin. I had to set up angstrom repositories. ram http://www.hashcube.com http://ramprasad.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? so you were trying to boot without battery and without usb cable plugged and it booted and then stopped? can you be more specific...?! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Codeswarm
Visualisation can be found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_svn Pander wrote: Hi all, Anyone interested in making a codewarm http://vis.cs.ucdavis.edu/~ogawa/codeswarm/ of the OpenMoko svn? Perhaps it could also be incorporated in the daily build. Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 13:14, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep the cover off in order to avoid that! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Peter Nijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you should be more concerned with the clips that hold the back cover on your phone. I only remove the cover (very carefully) when my phone freezes). It's also easier to find a new battery insted of finding a new back cover for the freerunner. I already have one of the little clips broken (bottom ones)... I will have to find a solution for when the second breaks... About battery, not only 100mA is not enough to boot, but even with 1A charger, it was stated that GSM module may require peak power up to about 2A, so battery cannot really be always out. About battery life, maybe the charge management code might also be tuned to be even more clever... (for example, a mode were battery life comes before charge speed). It should be possible to easily force slow charge even if wall charger is plugged in (1A is quite a lot for a battery). And maybe could use something like pulse charging... (I do not know what are -if any- the clever ways of charging this kind of battery) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Paroli + Tichy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, last week I told you a bit about the paroli project and what happened so far. I want to keep you updated and maybe bring a little more light into the darkness surrounding paroli. There where two main tasks for the past week: a) make paroli run within tichy b) make tichy display edje objects rather than using plain etk Those two were more or less successfully attacked. Many of the functions paroli is supposed to provide are already available in tichy such as the dialer for example. However there are only implementations using etk which is not what we want. A very rough implementation of edje can be seen by checking out the paroli svn[1] and following the faq. Another thing that was looked at was the launcher in tichy. The plan is to enable the user to start tichy plugins from the Illume launcher rather than the tichy launcher. For this the svn also contains a replacement launcher which checks for available plugins and generates desktop files for illume. These are also visible but so far have no function. The plan is to have those files issue a dbus signal which is then picked up by tichy and opens the requested plugin which is then displayed. In short it would look something like: *phone booting *tichy starting (includes edje bindings, fso, check of desktop files etc) and listening for dbus calls *a user clicks on a desktop file *tichy picks up signal and starts application *when application is closed, window is destroyed but tichy keeps on running In case tichy is not running when the user clicks on an icon it starts first and then displays the plugin. How does this sound? /mirko Note: All the files in the svn are highly developemental and have only proof-of-concept status. [1] http://code.google.com/p/paroli/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkZhc4ACgkQlgX1BiMLFSj2zwCdGBjAbcQiJi0FpSoGvHlLay4z C74AnjCIYXa6kjOr4v72E0jdhqp+qeH4 =O8vi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Am Tuesday 11 November 2008 20:51:05 schrieb Joachim Breitner: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 11.11.2008, 19:54 +0100 schrieb Peter Mogensen: I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz. same here, buzz and echo seem to be gone. Although I think the other side’s volume is a bit low here, and vica versa – what do you think? Glad to hear. Apparantly there is some subtle variants with regards to the analogue components, so a state file that works for A may be slightly too loud or too quiet for B. We need to expose the main volume in a simple way asap. FYI, the new cleanlyness (as far as the hardware allows *cough*) is due to an improved statefile (thanks FDOM folks) and some tweaking via the (undocumented *sigh*) modem echo and noise suppression commands. Using -12db for echo and noise supression sounded too harsh for most people, so I went back to -6db. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO][M4] Missing Components?
Hello Everyone -- I've just flashed openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--2008-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 and its accompanying uImage. The machine loads, and I see Alarm,Snapshot,Terminal icons. Zhone does not run.(even after several reboots). I could not find it on the filesystem with (find | grep zhone)(from root). Am I missing something here? I'm probably missing something horribly obvious, so I'd thought I'd ask. Thanks in Advance, SCarlson -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--M4--Missing-Components--tp1487797p1487797.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO][M4] Missing Components?
Hi On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:59 -0800, SCarlson wrote: I've just flashed openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--2008-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 and its accompanying uImage. The machine loads, and I see Alarm,Snapshot,Terminal icons. Zhone does not run.(even after several reboots). I could not find it on the filesystem with (find | grep zhone)(from root). Am I missing something here? I'm probably missing something horribly obvious, so I'd thought I'd ask. I had the same problem, it's missing in the image, but you can install it by logging in over ssh and use opkg: opkg update opkg install zhone Ignore the errors about failing signature checks when updating the package lists. cu Korbi signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM Testing: task-openmoko-qtopia-x11 has unsatisfied gstreamer depencies
Am 10.11.2008 um 09:51 schrieb Ray Chao: Hi Martin, Due to the license issue, it seems we took out a package and this is the reason gstreamer failed to install. And we couldn't distribute this anymore. Wrong. Please package Qtopia again. bitbake -cinstall -f qtopia-phone-x11 (on stable and testing). And then the normal autobuild should create new packages and the upload should work as well(tm). And as the term license was dropped: - We do not have packages for SMPEG, mad, mpg123, mpg321, ffmep (maybe later), sid, ac52, lame anymore (you can build them yourself using OE). If you are upset, please support the FSF on the struggle against Software Patents. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2008 1:15:35 am Pander wrote: QtE also has way better battery life than anything else I've tried - I can go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone. really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel. Be doubly sure that wifi is not enabled. If ever once enabled, you need to reboot or wifi never really goes off even if the GUI says so. With wifi on I get about 5-6 hrs but otherwise I echo Warren's experience. Battery comfortably last over 48 hrs. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO][M4] Missing Components?
I believe it depends on which image you install. zhone came installed on the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk... image I installed. fso-illume-image and fso-console-image probably come without zhone pre-installed, I'm using a neo1973, so there's a slight chance the behavior on the freerunner images is slightly different. Eric SCarlson wrote: Hello Everyone -- I've just flashed openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--2008-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 and its accompanying uImage. The machine loads, and I see Alarm,Snapshot,Terminal icons. Zhone does not run.(even after several reboots). I could not find it on the filesystem with (find | grep zhone)(from root). Am I missing something here? I'm probably missing something horribly obvious, so I'd thought I'd ask. Thanks in Advance, SCarlson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:10:24PM +0530, Ramprasad Rajendran wrote: 2008/11/11 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I'm using the Illume keyboard as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume one question remains: the Wiki says «Then switch keyboard from None to Default in Illume's preferences.» Where I do that exactly? There is a small wrench on the top of the pull down menu that lets you change illume's preferences. ... if and only if you use illume-theme-illume + illume-config-illume there is no such icon in the default theme of Om2008. (illume-theme-asu) You should also disable the default keyboard as mentioned in the wiki (adding export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia) ram http://www.hashcube.com http://ramprasad.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
- Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel. I'm using the same but it's working fine for battery life as a phone for me, I can run it for probably about 36 hours without needing to charge it (though having read the comments about Li batteries I might charge it overnight as a matter of principle now). In the power management I've set the brightness to about half, dim after 10 seconds, display off after 20 seconds and suspend after 30 seconds. Not had issues with it coming out of suspend (yet). Not tried to use Wifi with it. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2
Hi folks,
On the flight from Melbourne to LA I was playing around getting
Qt Extended 4.4.2 to build for the Neo using their toolchain and
sources. Luckily the Qantas A380 has Australian power sockets
for passengers in economy so battery life was not a worry!
The reason for this is that I wanted to try to follow up on
my previous comments on turning on echo suppression for
incoming calls in addition to outgoing which it already does.
To do that I abstracted the existing AT commands into a
single function and then called that from (I hope) the
phone initialisation, wake from suspend and hanging up
or aborting an incoming call.
The patch compiled first time but I've discovered that I've
left my USB cable behind and so can't test it (luckily I've
brought the charger with me!).
I've posted this for comments only because:
1) I'm not a programmer
2) I don't know C++ (just B and C)
3) I've no idea if what I've done covers all the necessary
points it needs to be set at..
4) I don't want to risk destroying anyone elses phone!
So take a look at what I've done and comment on it please.
Just be gentle..
cheers!
Chris dammit Jim, I'm a sysadmin not a programmer Samuel
--
Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC
--- qt-extended-4.4.2/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 2008-10-24 16:42:04.0 +1100
+++ build/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 2008-11-10 17:44:27.0 +1100
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@
// We never managed to connect.
hangupRemote( call );
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
} else if ( status == 2 call
call-state() == QPhoneCall::Dialing ) {
@@ -107,6 +108,7 @@
// This is an indication that the connection has been lost.
hangupRemote( call );
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
} else if ( ( status == 1 || status == 7 ) call
call-state() == QPhoneCall::Incoming ) {
@@ -148,13 +150,19 @@
call-emitNotification( QPhoneCall::CallingName, name );
}
-QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const
+void NeoCallProvider::echoCancel( void )
{
// do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( [EMAIL PROTECTED]-26\ );
modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B );
modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 );
+}
+
+
+QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const
+{
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options);
}
@@ -556,6 +564,9 @@
chat( AT+CREG=2 );
chat( AT+CGREG=2 );
+// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction.
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
+
QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego()));
}
@@ -682,6 +693,9 @@
// Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's
// name on an call. Only supported on some networks.
chat( AT%CNAP=1 );
+
+// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction.
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
}
void NeoModemService::sendSuspendDone()
@@ -738,6 +752,9 @@
// Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again.
chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) );
+
+// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction.
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
}
void NeoModemService::mcsqOff()
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