Re: Slashdotted
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 00:24:34 Steve Mosher wrote: production is not stopping. Sean said explicitly in his Bern address that there is ample inventory and I'll add that the production continues. In fact, one of the consequences of suspending GTA03 is that we can focus on two things ( FreeRunner and Project B) as opposed to three things. Let's get this straight. FreeRunner is Open. There is no EOL. Not like a closed product where software support ends. As long as parts remain available ( as far as I can see at least through the balance of 2009) as long as demand remains, we will produce and support the FreeRunner. That's the whole blessed point of delaying the GTA03. I think the press didn't understand the intention of Sean Moss-Pultz at Open Expo. If I google openmoko I met many wrong topics: The pages are in german but the messages are: Openmoko stops development of free smartphones. Linux smartphone openmoko failed Project Freerunner will not be continued on chip.de (03.04.2009) they even say: after Neo 1973 there will be no more Openmoko smartphone, they even claim to know Plan B is a navigation system http://www.silicon.de/mittelstand/0,39038986,41002613,00/aus+fuer+linux_handy+openmoko.htm http://www.chip.de/news/OpenMoko-Aus-fuer-Linux-Handys_35990484.html http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1237229080902 It's really annoying to read this. But I am happy to see that where it was possible the community has commented the articles. Anyway it doesn't put a good light on Openmoko. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
If it bleeds, it leeds. I'll alert PR to these publications and we will get the story right. Until then the community should just pound on them. An Army of Davids. Comment, link to seans video, link to my Video. Steve Michael Tansella wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009 00:24:34 Steve Mosher wrote: production is not stopping. Sean said explicitly in his Bern address that there is ample inventory and I'll add that the production continues. In fact, one of the consequences of suspending GTA03 is that we can focus on two things ( FreeRunner and Project B) as opposed to three things. Let's get this straight. FreeRunner is Open. There is no EOL. Not like a closed product where software support ends. As long as parts remain available ( as far as I can see at least through the balance of 2009) as long as demand remains, we will produce and support the FreeRunner. That's the whole blessed point of delaying the GTA03. I think the press didn't understand the intention of Sean Moss-Pultz at Open Expo. If I google openmoko I met many wrong topics: The pages are in german but the messages are: Openmoko stops development of free smartphones. Linux smartphone openmoko failed Project Freerunner will not be continued on chip.de (03.04.2009) they even say: after Neo 1973 there will be no more Openmoko smartphone, they even claim to know Plan B is a navigation system http://www.silicon.de/mittelstand/0,39038986,41002613,00/aus+fuer+linux_handy+openmoko.htm http://www.chip.de/news/OpenMoko-Aus-fuer-Linux-Handys_35990484.html http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1237229080902 It's really annoying to read this. But I am happy to see that where it was possible the community has commented the articles. Anyway it doesn't put a good light on Openmoko. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] latest unstable with problems!
On Friday 03 April 2009 11:58:57 Tony Berth wrote: Dear Group, just tried the latest SHR unstable (both kernel and jffs) and found following problems: - when in the boot screen the device gets listed in my debian server as a usb one but after booting it dissapears from the list! So can't access my FR any more from my machine! - tangoGPS still crashes when trying to change the settings :( - when I place a call, I can't hear any sound that its ringing! Any advice for the above issues? Thanks Tony Another problem is that it cannot switch to USB host mode anymore. Someone at the Kernel list wrote the following. Any idea how to solve this? Greets Michael It seems to be removed by this commit commit 70b36104ab8c03f5be6d03344214d09447d9d4a8 Author: Balaji Rao balajir...@openmoko.org Date: Mon Mar 9 21:01:18 2009 + Subject: USB: Change s3c2410_ohci into s3c_ohci and change gta02 to use it X-Git-Url: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=b55b8e USB: Change s3c2410_ohci into s3c_ohci and change gta02 to use it Signed-off-by: Balaji Rao balajir...@openmoko.org It can't work this field. I don't find if there is another function that can do it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in recent kernels (was: Re: [SHR] latest unstable with problems!)
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 00:45:05 Cedric Cellier wrote: I tried to edit the wiki page about the accelerometer in order to document this change : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval Please someone review it ! Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Call Recorder application.
Hi. My name is TAsn. I recently wrote a call recorder app ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder) that should work on all distros. I know many have been waiting for this kind of application so I decided a proper announcement is in place (actually rakshat thought I should...). Enjoy recording your calls, and don't forget it's illegal to do so without the other side's confirmation in many places around the world. Enjoy, Tom. p.s please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Steve Mosher wrote: And you are right the community can help: 1. get code upstream. That decreases our cost to maintain. 2. Stay involved or get involved, either by coding, testing, or spreading the word. you get the idea. My biggest itch was the frustration of getting a phone which, at that time, was not yet, say, a smooth phone, and still today has some rough edges, depending on distribution of course. I think this common experience is now acknowledged as what is hurting more the FR (leading to the slashdot post, but I'm also sure it can succeed and your recent posts are very convincing to me). Although I'm a programmer (C, Python), right now I can only spare a few hours a week which makes it difficult for me to be effective. Any suggestion how to best put my small resources at use? How much investment would it be needed to work on phone specific functions? I know this is the bazaar, but I miss a bit the cathedral to be more focused and effective. A todo list, who's doing what, change logs,... What's the status of FSO?? Maybe I have to explore better but there is a lot of info how there, spread all over, and too often not up to date. Working on documentation is also fine for me, but what is the most needed to choose from? Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call Recorder application.
Hi Tom Thanks again for this. My idea would be : ask the developper of each dialer to integrate a button record using you code. 2009/4/7 Tom t...@stosb.com Hi. My name is TAsn. I recently wrote a call recorder app ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder) that should work on all distros. I know many have been waiting for this kind of application so I decided a proper announcement is in place (actually rakshat thought I should...). Enjoy recording your calls, and don't forget it's illegal to do so without the other side's confirmation in many places around the world. Enjoy, Tom. p.s please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] screensaver/lock for X?
arne anka a écrit : 2007.2 had that nice screenlock where one had to move an om logo to unlock the screen. with debian the only lock i get is the one from zhone which locks only zhone -- so, does someone know where to get that 2007.2 lock or another one for debian? normal x screen locks require to type in a password which for obvious reasons is impossible. There is a screen locker (though it is unlocked with power button, not with the touch screen) in the openmoko-panel-plugin. -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO status?
Hello everybody I'd like to know what is the status of FSO after all the news at openmoko. Is Openmoko still founding FSO? I hope so. At least in my case, I only could make productive things with my FR using FSO or FSO based distros. Any official word about this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call Recorder application.
That's another reason why I put it here. Actually, they barely need any code mostly arecord. most of the work that have been done was in the state files, that was the hard part. All they need to do is arecord . The can see more information in the audio subsystem page in the wiki. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:47 AM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom Thanks again for this. My idea would be : ask the developper of each dialer to integrate a button record using you code. 2009/4/7 Tom t...@stosb.com Hi. My name is TAsn. I recently wrote a call recorder app ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder) that should work on all distros. I know many have been waiting for this kind of application so I decided a proper announcement is in place (actually rakshat thought I should...). Enjoy recording your calls, and don't forget it's illegal to do so without the other side's confirmation in many places around the world. Enjoy, Tom. p.s please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO status?
On Apr 7, 2009 9:56am, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: Is Openmoko still founding FSO? No, at least according to Mickey's blog (http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/category/opensource/openmoko/) Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)
The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com writes: Same on unstable. I could really stand to use this app, if only I could get it working... I had no sound after 03 april upgrade of shr-unstable, I also could not ssh to the phone, after 'depmod -a' on this or shr list, both ssh and sound works fine for me. Defalut alarm uses: aplay /usr/share/ffalarms/alarm.wav if that works ffalarms should to. Although it is ALSA player if you have mplayer running aplay could not open device: $ aplay -d hw,0,0 /usr/share/ffalarms/alarm.wav ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:866:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave aplay: main:546: audio open error: Device or resource busy Tell me whether it helps. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO status?
Please refer to http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2009/04/04/back- from-switzerland/ :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems in openmoko-messages
Generating locales... en_US.UTF-8...cannot map archive header: Invalid argument postinst script returned status 1 Collected errors: * ERROR: shr-utf8.postinst returned 1 had that a while ago, although on debian. the advice i got was doing fsck, since the files reside on my sd card with ext3 -- i didn't because i had no time and after a while it was gone. either it was a bug in the locales packages which got fixed silently or one of the few reboots since run an fsck. if you run everything from flash, fsck is out of question but you might want to check the logs for messages about jffs2 issues. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christ van Willegen ha scritto: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: Any hint on this? What am I doing wrong? If you run Navit from the terminal, it may tell you... In my case, it seems that the libgps installed on my system is too new. I haven't figured out how to solve this yet, but I'll let you know if I find out. I got Navit to work doing the following - Drop to a shell prompt on the FreeRunner (or use ssh to connect) - cd /usr/lib - ln -s libgps.so.17 libgps.so.16 This makes Navit think that libgps.so.16 is installed. Note: This may work for Navit for now, but may break other programs. If someone has used this solution, could confirm me that TangoGPS continued to work? I'm trying this in my SHR-testing, but I don't want any breakage. And... in my /usr/lib directory I don't have any libgps... how could I solve this? HTH! Thanks anyway :) Christ van Willegen - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknbDXkACgkQRi2TsGSC4FbhcwCfXIiTq2bJImdJTHDVD9t9veWc AHQAoJ+1AFzhqQwUqWMBTYymtvRcHYfY =ihIO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
http://www.silicon.de/mittelstand/0,39038986,41002613,00/aus+fuer+linux_handy+openmoko.htm i don't know this site ... http://www.chip.de/news/OpenMoko-Aus-fuer-Linux-Handys_35990484.html but chip is basically the yellow press of it -- i wouldn't hang a dog for anything they write. http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1237229080902 well, that's more or less what i understood so far. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fix it party en Barcelona 18/04/2009
Updated information about Spanish Buzz fix party:[1] *We will extend the party time, now is 10:00 a 13:00 y de 16:00 a 18:00 *We accept shipment of Neos only from Spain/Portugal/Andorra at the first party, depending on how things go we will extend the covered territory to Europe or Worldwide more info on the shipment procedure here[2] *We will gift a free battery for each fix *We have update the look of the banner and logo of the Buzz Fix Party Now in spanish Novedades en la quedadas Buzz fix party en España[1] * Ampliamos el horario ahora es de 10:00 a 13:00 y de 16:00 a 18:00 * Aceptamos envios (solo España/Portugal/Andorra) si no puedes asistir a la quedada o Mas informacion en sobre el procedimiento de envios en la descripcion del tiquet[2] * Regalamos una bateria por cada fix * Hemos cambiado el look de los carteles de la Buzz Fix Party [1]http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=1postId=9 [2]http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=46 Best regards 2009/3/19 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: Dear all, Tuxbrain is glad to announce a the first Fix it party in Spain with the support of Openmoko on Barcelona at 18/04/2009 at Boca Nord Linux Lab more details in spanish here http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=1postId=7 This is the first of the tree Tuxbrain will do in Spain. Next one will be in Madrid (Date and place pending) And next one will be at DebConf9 Caceres 25/07/2009 Best regards. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
PISI 0.1 released
We just released the first version of PISI. Pisi is an application (written in Python) for synchronizing all sorts of PIM data. Currently, mainly contacts from several sources may be synchronized. You can choose between GUI and Command Line Interface. See project home page for more details (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pisi/). The release may be found on opkg.org: http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1237229080902 well, that's more or less what i understood so far. Die Entwicklung der Mobiltelefone wird eingestellt Development of mobile phones stopped big topic (many people don't read more) Openmoko gibt freie Handy-Entwicklung auf Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently running tangoGPS to see what it does. There doesn't seem to be a problem running it, although I am inside and consequently don't have any satellite reception :-) Here I am talking to mysef again :-) In the mean time, my FR _did_ get enough satellite reception to get tangoGPS to display the current location. So, that works... HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Die Entwicklung der Mobiltelefone wird eingestellt Development of mobile phones stopped big topic (many people don't read more) Openmoko gibt freie Handy-Entwicklung auf Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message. so? phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. gta02 does not see any development, just support and fixes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Mokardu]Openmoko is Armed and Dangerous :)!
Do you ever think in have a wholeproof cober? Why not a full U.S. M41A3 WALKER BULLDOG Tank? ;P here is the project of a friend of mind Miguel Angel Vilchez form openmatica.com you can see the pictures of a Neo being a brain of a beast at www.mokardu.com Feel free to comment direct to him :) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
And what you think about this: http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-2-118407618 2009/3/31 Martino manda@gmail.com 2009/3/30 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. Yes, that's what I was suggesting before: but using only one row for that. In general, I would use only one row to display the app icons, before or within categories, and allow the icon row to scroll horizontally (needs left/right arrow hints). Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes it was beautifull but i think isn't easy to develop.. . -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware mods in India
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Alok G. Singh alephn...@hcoop.net wrote: Is there a place in India, preferably Bangalore to get the GPS TTFF fix and the buzz fix as well ? I have no hardware skills. I did mail Ida Systems[1] (who are the resellers in India) but I did not get a reply. Footnotes: [1] http://www.idasystems.net/ -- Alok Sorry Alok. Someone must have missed your mail. We are working with OM for offering the buzz fix in India and will definitely be visiting Banglore (as it one of the places with the maximum freerunners in India). Re GPS TIFF - the later kernels provide a solution that work well without the hardware fix. What are your TIFF times in clear sky conditions? Rakshat IDA Systems ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
comments on callrec
Hi, Tom t...@stosb.com writes: please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches. I did not test this yet but here are my comments based on reading the source tarball: * Thanks for using autotools. It helps a lot that simple autoreconf -i ./configure make make install works and DESTDIR and --prefix are respected. * Code has comments, way to go! :-) * #define GLADE_FILE /usr/share/callrec/callrec.glade is hardcoded to source code and does not respect --prefix. This means I can not install callrec as normal user to my home directory. * There's a stray \r in the end of callrec.c * Please consider making the state.patch with diff -u so that it has context. 19,20c19,20 value.0 0 value.1 0 --- value.0 195 value.1 195 is not very readable since you don't know what control it is changing. * There are three state files but only one patch. Which statefile is the patch for? If you have time it would be nice to have some discussion on what each control does. Does this program record both parties of the conversation in the same channel or are they recorded as different channels? * The only license to distribute gartoon redux icon theme 1.7 is GPL version 2: This package is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; version 2 dated June, 1991. This might be a problem for your GPLv3 or later application. However, note that version 1.8 gives you a license to distribute it under later versions too: * Change license to GPL v2 or later. best regards, Timo Lindfors ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
-[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka ] Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message. so? phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. The project is _delayed_, and openmoko still want to build new phones in the future, and most importantly do not give up building open devices (go for the open hair dryer! :-)). When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:00:04 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org: -[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka ] Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message. so? phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. The project is _delayed_, and openmoko still want to build new phones in the future, and most importantly do not give up building open devices (go for the open hair dryer! :-)). With wireless mp3 streaming and anti-noise (Gegenschall in german) to make it completely silent! -- marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:00:04 +0200 ri...@happyleptic.org said: -[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka ] Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message. so? phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. The project is _delayed_, and openmoko still want to build new phones in the future, and most importantly do not give up building open devices (go for the open hair dryer! :-)). When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ? because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a company stops its entire development of new products in a product line... in fact its ONLY product that is publically known (development meaning the next improved version) it does make new. it matters. it is the same as is nokia stopped making ALL phones and decided to start making shoes instead. that'd make news!. :) these things create a life of their own - if they are correct or not. the media interprets it in the way to make it as sensational as possible. sensation sells to readers. readers mean ads ... and ads are revenue. if half the worlds news was reported realistically in proportion.. you would have a pretty boring media. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
(go for the open hair dryer! :-)). With wireless mp3 streaming and anti-noise (Gegenschall in german) to make it completely silent! It will only have wireless Ogg streaming by default. You will have to opkg install libmad (via wifi ssh connection) to get wireless MP3 going! Rakshat -- marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:22:43 schrieb rakshat hooja: (go for the open hair dryer! :-)). With wireless mp3 streaming and anti-noise (Gegenschall in german) to make it completely silent! It will only have wireless Ogg streaming by default. You will have to opkg install libmad (via wifi ssh connection) to get wireless MP3 going! Who needs mp3 anyway, technically, ogg is the better codec :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA03 or 3d7k?
Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com writes: Come on in the waters fine. Can't resist to ask, what's the deal with the name? ;-) In Mar 2 all references to GTA03 were changed[1] to 3d7k in the andy-tracking linux branch. Is it now called GTA03 again? [1] the commit message: commit 81da012eb0fff1bc5f129202d0c12b1d63a7761a Author: Andy Green a...@openmoko.com Date: Mon Mar 2 18:51:56 2009 + rename-gta03-dropped-3d7k-new-moniker.patch GTA03 project is dropped, long live Openmoko 3d7k project. This name was literally generated by picking the first character of the next four car license plates to pass by I am told. The should catch all GTA03 instances except the machine name. I registered a new machine name since the 3d7k is different from original GTA03, the machine number is 2120. Signed-off-by: Andy Green a...@openmoko.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0
This is the output: http://pastebin.com/m312df0f9 Leonti On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Guillaume Chereau charlie...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Thanks for your work! I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :( Can you try to start it form command line : export DISPLAY=:0 tichy and send me the output. - gui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros
commets below 2009/4/7 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: El día Tuesday, April 07, 2009 a las 01:15:52PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez escribió: HI well topic says all Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.truxbrain.com/shop Yes, the topic says at all: NOW for 29 Euros (and maybe tomorrow for 1 Euro); it sounds that folks are leaving a sinking ship :-( WoW Wow, Matthias brakes on please, Tuxbrain (my company) is the creator,manufacturer, seller of this product and we finally decide to lower the price, nothing more nothing less. Really, I was ready to indifference about the news , I and I was hoping some one will be little happy about it, but being used as argument like Openmoko lastest unfair press news is just unacceptable. I believe in OM in the past, now and in the future, this is a long term run, it has allways be and Tuxbrain is keep running at OM side, maybe some time walking and others sitting in a bar taking a beer, but on the way and never willing to stop. I have encountered in the FR the toy I was always looking for: a UNIX server with X11 for my pocket or belt which also can make phone calls, Internet, Wifi, GPS, ... Good to know :), keep on pushing or rest for a while but do not be discouraged I'm one of those using it as their only and daily phone device... but, where to go now in the future? well, the device will continue serving some time, maybe even years as it is, but after that? Who knows :) Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
2009/4/7 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com: Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:22:43 schrieb rakshat hooja: (go for the open hair dryer! :-)). With wireless mp3 streaming and anti-noise (Gegenschall in german) to make it completely silent! It will only have wireless Ogg streaming by default. You will have to opkg install libmad (via wifi ssh connection) to get wireless MP3 going! Who needs mp3 anyway, technically, ogg is the better codec :D Silent but with an ogg file under creative commons with an authentic hairdrying sound in full stereo 196Kbs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0
seems pretty clear to me: pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory look for a package providing libpng.so.3 and install it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware mods in India
2009/4/7 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: snip At http://openblog.methril.net/ the work was adapted to a new device :-) Great. Rafael is one of a kind :), he is also my iron guy for the fixes snip ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ? because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a company stops its entire development of new products in a product line... Yes. But as a user, I would be more saddened if Sean had annouced that gta03 was just around the corner and would be so different from the previous products that all support for those would be discontinued. I may sound old, but I think that the FR hardware (as well as the n810 hardware for that matter) is more than enough, and the inovation must now comes from the software part. The phone downsides are not in the hardware, so let's settle here and improve the software. Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Hardware mods in India
Is there a place in India, preferably Bangalore to get the GPS TTFF fix and the buzz fix as well ? I have no hardware skills. I did mail Ida Systems[1] (who are the resellers in India) but I did not get a reply. Footnotes: [1] http://www.idasystems.net/ -- Alok The most important things, each person must do for himself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 List now open at openmoko.org
Diving in! On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Come on in the waters fine. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian/fsod] Failed to register to network
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 02:54:51 schrieb Daniel Willmann:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:01:18 +0200
Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:
Moin,
Since yesterday (iirc) zhone always complains about not being able to
register to the gsm network, .xsession-errors tells me this:
Failed to register to network
network status changed:
dbus.Dictionary({dbus.String(u'registration'): dbus.String(u'denied',
variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'strength'): dbus.Int32 (52,
variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'mode'): dbus.String(u'automatic',
variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'act'): dbus.String(u'GSM',
variant_level=1)}, signature=dbus.Signature('sv'))
registration denied - okay. But why? The debuglog of frameworkd
says something about no network code, but I cannot interpret the AT
commands :)
After trying to register in line 26 you get a +CME ERROR: 32 which is
Network not allowed, emergency calls only. It looks like your card
was deactivated or something, but please check how this card behaves in
a different phone.
I'll recheck next weekend. I had the named behavior in Hamburg last weekend -
back here in Buxtehude (40km SW of Hamburg) it works just fine... Although it
*used to* work in HH, too, my GSM provider is available there. *g*
The log can be found here: http://pastebin.ca/1383626
Then the error occurs. The strange thing is: Yesterday I still
received an SMS in this state. Can someone light this up?
Not sure what's up with the SMS. Was it an operator generated one?
No, a normal SMS from another phone.
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Re: Slashdotted
2009/4/7 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: Die Entwicklung der Mobiltelefone wird eingestellt Development of mobile phones stopped big topic (many people don't read more) Openmoko gibt freie Handy-Entwicklung auf Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message. so? phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. gta02 does not see any development, just support and fixes. You understand it and all^Wmost of the people following our maillists, but still... big topic (many people don't read more) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0
Thanks, it's working now! Leonti On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: seems pretty clear to me: pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory look for a package providing libpng.so.3 and install it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware mods in India
Good link. I think we should collect them and learn from each other. Also making it an overview what about the movement is going on. At http://openblog.methril.net/ the work was adapted to a new device :-) Great. The more devices are supported the more possible developers get involved to make the distibution better. What else devices are available or is being developed for? Do you share my mind? Lothar Am 07.04.2009 um 12:28 schrieb Alok G. Singh: Is there a place in India, preferably Bangalore to get the GPS TTFF fix and the buzz fix as well ? I have no hardware skills. I did mail Ida Systems[1] (who are the resellers in India) but I did not get a reply. Footnotes: [1] http://www.idasystems.net/ -- Alok The most important things, each person must do for himself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros
Small typo there: www.tuxbrain.com/shop ;) On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:15 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: HI well topic says all Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.truxbrain.com/shop -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros
HI well topic says all Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.truxbrain.com/shop -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: Christ van Willegen ha scritto: Note: This may work for Navit for now, but may break other programs. If someone has used this solution, could confirm me that TangoGPS continued to work? I'm trying this in my SHR-testing, but I don't want any breakage. I am currently running tangoGPS to see what it does. There doesn't seem to be a problem running it, although I am inside and consequently don't have any satellite reception :-) And... in my /usr/lib directory I don't have any libgps... how could I solve this? Try a 'find /* -name '*libgps*' -print' or something like that on your FR... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros
El día Tuesday, April 07, 2009 a las 01:15:52PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez escribió: HI well topic says all Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.truxbrain.com/shop Yes, the topic says at all: NOW for 29 Euros (and maybe tomorrow for 1 Euro); it sounds that folks are leaving a sinking ship :-( I have encountered in the FR the toy I was always looking for: a UNIX server with X11 for my pocket or belt which also can make phone calls, Internet, Wifi, GPS, ... I'm one of those using it as their only and daily phone device... but, where to go now in the future? well, the device will continue serving some time, maybe even years as it is, but after that? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros
I'm unable to write my own url, shame on me 2009/4/7 Zogg zoggif...@gmail.com: Small typo there: www.tuxbrain.com/shop ;) On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:15 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: HI well topic says all Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.truxbrain.com/shop -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: I may sound old, but I think that the FR hardware (as well as the n810 hardware for that matter) is more than enough, and the inovation must now comes from the software part. The phone downsides are not in the hardware, so let's settle here and improve the software. Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO. sadly enough, that is indeed the situation. What would OM do with new hardware? Another piece with great promise and no delivery. If we look at what has happened since the release of the FR about a year ago, we have to acknowlegde that not much has improved as far as usability of the phone goes. Right, there are plenty of new distros but not one that is solid as far as the use as phone goes. Basically the same applies to applications. Improvements do not come regularly as they come for instance in current betas elsewhere (like ubuntu), where things get fixed in the distr and not as workarounds. I know OM is not ubuntu or debian. But here things are not going well with little indication that the situation may improve. But then: it saves on the phone bill... end of rant greetings nonetheless Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Few units buzz free to sell,
Hi all, I have a couple of units with buzz fix applied, and firmware gsm and alsa states upgraded to sell Visit www.tuxbrain.com/shop for more info Best regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
Hello, When patch will be more flexible, I will add it to SHR (patch for compositing with Xglamo is already in SHR for some time) Ok, so it should be a bit more flexible now. A new version (see updated http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~Openmoko/qwo) does not break the builtin keyboard any more. Basicaly illume with this patch distinguish between applications with name Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard, the latter one is handled differently. In default configuration, this patch should have no effect. You need a newly patched qwo to use it, though. Greets Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: (cut) stopped making ALL phones and decided to start making shoes instead. that'd make news!. :) these things create a life of their own - if they are correct or not. the media interprets it in the way to make it as sensational as possible. sensation sells to readers. readers mean ads ... and ads are revenue. if half the worlds news was reported realistically in proportion.. you would have a pretty boring media. :) It's all about getting our attention. Everyday I'm more afraid of reading the news. I guess the press release will help. Anyway, here's another article. LinuxDevices articles are usually better. http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8568412362.html Now I bet a candy this one will not reach slashdot's frontpage :-) N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call Recorder application.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom ha scritto: Hi. My name is TAsn. I recently wrote a call recorder app (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder) that should work on all distros. I know many have been waiting for this kind of application so I decided a proper announcement is in place (actually rakshat thought I should...). Enjoy recording your calls, and don't forget it's illegal to do so without the other side's confirmation in many places around the world. Enjoy, Tom. p.s please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches. Thanks for this great piece of software :D I think I'll be a good idea upload it on opkg.org... Cheers :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknbWhIACgkQRi2TsGSC4FY7OQCff4ICFdqu6SRFBWWZOpXKMIWD pHAAniNdDGDEV9vJZjECy0eeWeia/Wja =oNXK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: comments on callrec
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fiwrote: Hi, Tom t...@stosb.com writes: please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches. I did not test this yet but here are my comments based on reading the source tarball: * Thanks for using autotools. It helps a lot that simple autoreconf -i ./configure make make install works and DESTDIR and --prefix are respected. * Code has comments, way to go! :-) * #define GLADE_FILE /usr/share/callrec/callrec.glade is hardcoded to source code and does not respect --prefix. This means I can not install callrec as normal user to my home directory. I know, should be fixed, thanks for reminding me. * There's a stray \r in the end of callrec.c Thanks. * Please consider making the state.patch with diff -u so that it has context. 19,20c19,20 value.0 0 value.1 0 --- value.0 195 value.1 195 is not very readable since you don't know what control it is changing. I know, i already changed this locally, forgot to up it to public svn. doing it now. * There are three state files but only one patch. Which statefile is the patch for? If you have time it would be nice to have some discussion on what each control does. Does this program record both parties of the conversation in the same channel or are they recorded as different channels? it is stated in the wiki, each side gets a channel. furthermore, them same as for the patch type, I already changed that. state.patch was used (without context) because I wanted to try and make a global patch, though this didn't go as well as I expected, so I changed it. * The only license to distribute gartoon redux icon theme 1.7 is GPL version 2: This package is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; version 2 dated June, 1991. This might be a problem for your GPLv3 or later application. However, note that version 1.8 gives you a license to distribute it under later versions too: * Change license to GPL v2 or later. Thanks, I didn't notice that, I just had it lying around so I used it . ;] best regards, Timo Lindfors ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call Recorder application.
I don't have an account there, nor do I have the time to open one. If someone can, please do. Thanks. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom ha scritto: Hi. My name is TAsn. I recently wrote a call recorder app (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder) that should work on all distros. I know many have been waiting for this kind of application so I decided a proper announcement is in place (actually rakshat thought I should...). Enjoy recording your calls, and don't forget it's illegal to do so without the other side's confirmation in many places around the world. Enjoy, Tom. p.s please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches. Thanks for this great piece of software :D I think I'll be a good idea upload it on opkg.org... Cheers :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknbWhIACgkQRi2TsGSC4FY7OQCff4ICFdqu6SRFBWWZOpXKMIWD pHAAniNdDGDEV9vJZjECy0eeWeia/Wja =oNXK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
error compiling
I run successfully a program written in http://www.enricozini.org/2008/tips/accelerometers.html to read the Freerunner's accelerometers but I did another program like the precedent, but I added #include math.h and in the void: void processInputEvents(FILE* in) I added only these lines: x2 = pow (x,2); y2 = pow (y,2); dom = sqrt (x2 + y2); and I compiled my program with toolchain, so I did this command: make but I obtained an error message like I don't include math.h the output was: ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -std=gnu99 -I. -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -Wall -pedantic -std=c99 -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -c -o inclinaison.o inclinaison.c inclinaison.c: In function ‘processInputEvents’: inclinaison.c:11: warning: unused variable ‘inclinaison’ arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -std=gnu99 -Wall -pedantic -std=c99 -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib -o inclinaison inclinaison.o inclinaison.o: In function `processInputEvents': inclinaison.c:(.text+0x128): undefined reference to `sqrt' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [all] Error 1 what could be the reason?? and what should I do?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
Hi Richard I just run opkg update opkg upgrade, which installed the new qwo keyboard. I tested it. My feedback : * you changed the yellow shapes. Could you tell us why ? By the way, they seem to be drawn with the mouse (not regular). Is it art ? (joking, light tone) * I can only write numbers with this version. the move from the center to one zone and back to the center do not work anymore (as more complex ones). Instead theses moves write numbers. Am I the only one with this bug ? Cheers Kimaidou 2009/4/7 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk Hello, When patch will be more flexible, I will add it to SHR (patch for compositing with Xglamo is already in SHR for some time) Ok, so it should be a bit more flexible now. A new version (see updated http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~Openmoko/qwohttp://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7EOpenmoko/qwo) does not break the builtin keyboard any more. Basicaly illume with this patch distinguish between applications with name Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard, the latter one is handled differently. In default configuration, this patch should have no effect. You need a newly patched qwo to use it, though. Greets Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: error compiling
-[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 04:11:31PM +0200, Anas Alzouhbi ] but I obtained an error message like I don't include math.h If you were not including math.h gcc (the compiler) would complain about unknown symbol 'sqrt'. arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -std=gnu99 -Wall -pedantic -std=c99 -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib -o inclinaison inclinaison.o inclinaison.o: In function `processInputEvents': inclinaison.c:(.text+0x128): undefined reference to `sqrt' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Here the linker complains about being unable to find the definition of sqrt. You need to add the math library (libm) in this command line, using the -lm switch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Am 07.04.2009 um 14:11 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman): because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a company stops its entire development of new products in a product line... in fact its ONLY product that is publically known (development meaning the next improved version) it does make new. it matters. it is the same as is nokia stopped making ALL phones and decided to start making shoes instead. that'd make news!. :) these things create a life of their own - if they are correct or not. the media interprets it in the way to make it as sensational as possible. sensation sells to readers. readers mean ads ... and ads are revenue. if half the worlds news was reported realistically in proportion.. you would have a pretty boring media. :) That's what was jumping around in my brain. It's lke the german sensation focused Bild newspaper :-) Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphics Performance
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:14:35 +0200 ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: Which fits very well with what I call a closed system. What if I just want to have a look, and, depending on the chip capabilities and some experiments, decide to go lowlevel or not ? A fair point... T ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: graphical nethack for freerunner (alpha version released)
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/ Warnign: Not yet playable! He Aapo, as promised I've prepared a pair of image to explain my idea of the best nethack gui for the freerunner. Hoping to be of some help, by Giacomo http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5662/mynethack.png http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5608/mynethackwithmenu.png -- /_\ The ASCIIPer comunicare in modo riservato: \_/ Ribbon Campaign gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net \ X Against HTML--recv-keys 20611EAD /_\ Email! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: error compiling
Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com writes: what could be the reason?? and what should I do?? You did not link against math library. Add -lm option to gcc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Here is a newer version with some bug fixes and seeking. intone_0.21_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.20---alpha-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2599615.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphics Performance
That should be fine. Of course, if the phone has no future Thomas White wrote: On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:14:16 +0100 Ian Stirling openm...@mauve.plus.com wrote: What is the bandwidth for memory moves? About 6-8 or so - with 100% CPU utilisation Or one pixel per 2D engine clock cycle for moves inside Glamo's memory using its blitter (i.e. VRAM-VRAM). I think that in the Freerunner the relevant clock runs at 50MHz, but I haven't managed to properly decipher what's going on in that regard. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ePDFView package on opkg.org
Hi list, i have made some little changes to ePDFView to scroll the pages in a more friendly way. You can find the package and the dependencies (from shr-testing) here: http://www.opkg.org/package_193.html To scroll the pages you can just scroll out of the actual page. I'm sorry for my english :) Let me know of any questions. roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in recent kernels
I have the latest kernel I have found on the .../unstable/ download, dated Apr 06, 2009, but I do not see any EV_ABS (type 3) events listed when I access the /dev/input/event[2,3] files. Is there another kernel out there? Which one matches the andy-tracking modules? Michael Tansella wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009 00:45:05 Cedric Cellier wrote: I tried to edit the wiki page about the accelerometer in order to document this change : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval Please someone review it ! Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in recent kernels
-[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:09:56PM -0400, Iain B. Findleton ] I have the latest kernel I have found on the .../unstable/ download, dated Apr 06, 2009, but I do not see any EV_ABS (type 3) events listed when I access the /dev/input/event[2,3] files. Is there another kernel out there? Which one matches the andy-tracking modules? I used a 2.6.29 from andy-tracking branch of the kernel repository at git.openmoko.org. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in recent kernels
Are you building it yourself or is there a uImage and modules file pre-compiled? ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: -[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:09:56PM -0400, Iain B. Findleton ] I have the latest kernel I have found on the .../unstable/ download, dated Apr 06, 2009, but I do not see any EV_ABS (type 3) events listed when I access the /dev/input/event[2,3] files. Is there another kernel out there? Which one matches the andy-tracking modules? I used a 2.6.29 from andy-tracking branch of the kernel repository at git.openmoko.org. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in recent kernels
-[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:23:51PM -0400, Iain B. Findleton ] Are you building it yourself or is there a uImage and modules file pre-compiled? Build it myself. I can send you the image+modules if you want, but I recommand you setup your own build chain which is quite simple. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
Hello, * you changed the yellow shapes. Could you tell us why ? By the way, I changed it for better recognition accuracy. It is claimed by original author of quikwriting (Ken Perlin), and my experience confirms it. For me, it is _much_ easier to write with the new layout when using fingers. (If you are using stylus, it shouldn't matter much.) they seem to be drawn with the mouse (not regular). Is it art ? (joking, light tone) No. They are quite regular (should be symetric), I basically copied them from the shapes of the original java quikwriting appliction by Ken Perlin and tweaked a bit manually (no drawing with mouse :-) ). * I can only write numbers with this version. the move from the center to one zone and back to the center do not work anymore (as more complex ones). Instead theses moves write numbers. Am I the only one with this bug ? Which package did you install? I can try to check it on my phone Greets Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: error compiling
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -std=gnu99 -Wall -pedantic -std=c99 -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib -o inclinaison inclinaison.o inclinaison.o: In function `processInputEvents': inclinaison.c:(.text+0x128): undefined reference to `sqrt' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Here the linker complains about being unable to find the definition of sqrt. You need to add the math library (libm) in this command line, using the -lm switch. I tried 'ln with gcc, but I'm interested to compile it with toolchain so the command is make and is not gcc and it doesn't successful with make :( what should I do?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems in openmoko-messages
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:57:21AM +0400, forin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Paul! I've tried to install your package - [1]http://www.stosb.com/openmoko/shr-utf8_0.1_armv4t.ipk but had some problems. Here is the output from the opkg installer: Not my package, btw. It's TAsn who investigated and mostly solved the issue. Fix is already in shr-unstable, feel free to update. And btw, next time you top-post, i won't even read your mail, sorry to say that. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in recent kernels
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 12:09 -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: I have the latest kernel I have found on the .../unstable/ download, dated Apr 06, 2009, but I do not see any EV_ABS (type 3) events listed when I access the /dev/input/event[2,3] files. Is there another kernel out there? Which one matches the andy-tracking modules? If you look in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ you will find the latest andy-tacking kernels. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
hm.. In case you missed it, the article from the register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/openmoko/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Slashdotted-tp2587049p2600221.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
* I can only write numbers with this version. the move from the center I have just fixed that (a small bug that sneaked in just before I released the patch...). Should be working now, try to reinstall qwo. Greets Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:34 AM, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO. I agree. If the GTA03 was going to be less capable anyway, we can live without it. It's too bad having to put up with the Glamo, but oh well. How much longer can GTA02's remain in production? Any impending part obsolescence to worry about? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christ van Willegen ha scritto: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently running tangoGPS to see what it does. There doesn't seem to be a problem running it, although I am inside and consequently don't have any satellite reception :-) Here I am talking to mysef again :-) In the mean time, my FR _did_ get enough satellite reception to get tangoGPS to display the current location. So, that works... I've done the ln, now I'll put FR near the windows hoping for a fix :D I've solved the absence of libgps with a simple ipkg install libgps17 (opkg install libgps17 won't work...). HTH! I've much appreciated your help :D Thanks again :) Christ van Willegen - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknbkvsACgkQRi2TsGSC4Fbg2wCfQ3vwaDw5LdRQTHvB1PP8hZdK Y7sAn3DLv59aK2Mdi7x2xu6BfuP89OuE =m/dV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros
it sounds that folks are leaving a sinking ship :-( WoW Wow, Matthias brakes on please... Fortunately, he didnt use the metaphor in its original form: RATS are leaving the sinking ship ;-) regards Juan Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 or 3d7k?
Ah good question. I'll explain below. One of the final twists in the GTA03 history Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com writes: Come on in the waters fine. Can't resist to ask, what's the deal with the name? ;-) In Mar 2 all references to GTA03 were changed[1] to 3d7k in the andy-tracking linux branch. Is it now called GTA03 again? One of the minor issues that Wolfgang and I had with the naming paradigm of of products was the use of what I call secret decoder rings GTA stood for: Gsm;Ti;Agps. Ha, and everybody who reads wikipedia thinks it stood for Gnu Telephony Appliance. That's one of the issues I have with secret decoder ring project names. The other problem is this: numbered sequences. 01,02,03,04. What does that imply? for some it just implies gets better but it could also mean the one following For example, we had a roadmap with a GTA05 on it, but the GTA05 was a very simple phone, 05 meant---comes after 04 on the schedule. You follow? Now GTA03 was redined in such a way that it didnt have wifi and didnt have GPS, and it had a different GSM chip. So, what do we call it: GS03? GS01? secret decoder rings always lead to these kind of problems. So we took a decision to create the following Naming structure: 1. Specific Hardware device: Non representational sequence of alpha numerics. 2. Project Name: Internal Code name, like everest 3. Marketing name. So, Andy went out and picked out a licence plate 3d7k to stand for the specific hardware design he was targeting. It's basically the name you would see in drivers. So one project, say everest could use 3d7k and add lets say and image from SHR and that project would ship with a marketing name of FreeRunner SHR for example. And another project, Lets say diablo could use 3d7k and add a android image, and ship as the product FreeRunner Android I use these ONLY as examples.. the basic point was you had a naming structure that allowed multiple projects (HW+SW) to use the same hardware. It was merely a housecleaning exercise that allowed Wolfgang and I to decouple the hardware naming ( which the drivers needed) from the project naming ( which engineering and marketing needed) and allowed me to do product naming ( FreeRunner) without forcing a rewrite of drivers at the last minute. clear as mud I suppose. [1] the commit message: commit 81da012eb0fff1bc5f129202d0c12b1d63a7761a Author: Andy Green a...@openmoko.com Date: Mon Mar 2 18:51:56 2009 + rename-gta03-dropped-3d7k-new-moniker.patch GTA03 project is dropped, long live Openmoko 3d7k project. This name was literally generated by picking the first character of the next four car license plates to pass by I am told. The should catch all GTA03 instances except the machine name. I registered a new machine name since the 3d7k is different from original GTA03, the machine number is 2120. Signed-off-by: Andy Green a...@openmoko.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
how long freerunner will be produce ?
Hi everyone, I work in a french compagny making up a produce based on the freerunner. Sorry to open a new thread about this but I read everywhere on the Internet that Openmoko cancels gta03 and sometimes news talk about gta02 too !! So a simple question how long freerunner will be produce ?? Thanks a lot. Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Martino wrote: And what you think about this: http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-2-118407618 Gorgeous, although the notification box doesn't look so good as in previous mockups. Maybe it works better if it comes from the bottom and uses all the width. What would you put in Home, the common phone apps? Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ePDFView package on opkg.org
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Previdi Roberto previdi.robe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, i have made some little changes to ePDFView to scroll the pages in a more friendly way. You can find the package and the dependencies (from shr-testing) here: http://www.opkg.org/package_193.html To scroll the pages you can just scroll out of the actual page. I'm sorry for my english :) Let me know of any questions. roby Thank you for the update. It improves usability quite a lot. jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: error compiling
-[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:00:07PM +0300, Anas Alzouhbi ] I tried 'ln with gcc, but I'm interested to compile it with toolchain so the command is make and is not gcc and it doesn't successful with make :( what should I do?? I don't use any special toolchain, but I suppose that you can use the LDFLAGS parameter : make LDFLAGS=-lm should get you started before someone who knows the toolchain you are refering about gives you the proper method. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Fernando Martins wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: And you are right the community can help: 1. get code upstream. That decreases our cost to maintain. 2. Stay involved or get involved, either by coding, testing, or spreading the word. you get the idea. My biggest itch was the frustration of getting a phone which, at that time, was not yet, say, a smooth phone, and still today has some rough edges, depending on distribution of course. I think this common experience is now acknowledged as what is hurting more the FR (leading to the slashdot post, but I'm also sure it can succeed and your recent posts are very convincing to me) Although I'm a programmer (C, Python), right now I can only spare a few hours a week which makes it difficult for me to be effective. Any suggestion how to best put my small resources at use? How much investment would it be needed to work on phone specific functions? I know this is the bazaar, but I miss a bit the cathedral to be more focused and effective. A todo list, who's doing what, change logs,... What's the status of FSO?? Maybe I have to explore better but there is a lot of info how there, spread all over, and too often not up to date. Working on documentation is also fine for me, but what is the most needed to choose from? What I would do is get in contact with the folks working on a specific distribution ( SHR for example) or specific piece of infrastructure Paroli, tichey,FSO, kernel and ask them these questions. The lack of a todo list and the lack of focused development has also been a frustration for me. It means development happens like an untended garden grows. But look what grew that we never imagined. Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christ van Willegen ha scritto: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently running tangoGPS to see what it does. There doesn't seem to be a problem running it, although I am inside and consequently don't have any satellite reception :-) Here I am talking to mysef again :-) In the mean time, my FR _did_ get enough satellite reception to get tangoGPS to display the current location. So, that works... HTH! Christ van Willegen It works! With TangoGPS no problem ;) http://fradeve.netsons.org/2009/04/openmoko-navit-su-shr-testing/ - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknbm+4ACgkQRi2TsGSC4FaKOACgp/ykQ3JS5EPUBRBDuHDMgzeJ WUEAoK7/WQibHDbgtjZDrOizxCkH/Coz =x9w+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: error compiling
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 20:29:38 schrieb Cedric Cellier: -[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:00:07PM +0300, Anas Alzouhbi ] I tried 'ln with gcc, but I'm interested to compile it with toolchain so the command is make and is not gcc and it doesn't successful with make :( what should I do?? I don't use any special toolchain, but I suppose that you can use the LDFLAGS parameter : make LDFLAGS=-lm should get you started before someone who knows the toolchain you are refering about gives you the proper method. make implies a makefile, don't these beasts have some variable to set the libs that should be -l'ed? Maybe have a look at it... -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Like I said, if it bleeds, it leeds. When you have a major announcement such as seans you have two options: 1. Try to control the press response beforehand. Brief the press beforehand, do a press release, release an official statement on the same day as the event. A controlled blast. 2. Drop that bombshell, some of the press will get it wrong, and then use that opportunity. In my mind the community had earned the right to be the first to know. So, I picked option 2. Let Sean tell the community first and then I will go out and correct any misunderstanding. Explaining our position FIRST on the community list, and then to the press and the rest of the world. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:00:04 +0200 ri...@happyleptic.org said: -[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka ] Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message. so? phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. The project is _delayed_, and openmoko still want to build new phones in the future, and most importantly do not give up building open devices (go for the open hair dryer! :-)). When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ? because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a company stops its entire development of new products in a product line... in fact its ONLY product that is publically known (development meaning the next improved version) it does make new. it matters. it is the same as is nokia stopped making ALL phones and decided to start making shoes instead. that'd make news!. :) these things create a life of their own - if they are correct or not. the media interprets it in the way to make it as sensational as possible. sensation sells to readers. readers mean ads ... and ads are revenue. if half the worlds news was reported realistically in proportion.. you would have a pretty boring media. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 20:14:18 schrieb Steve Mosher: Fernando Martins wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: And you are right the community can help: 1. get code upstream. That decreases our cost to maintain. 2. Stay involved or get involved, either by coding, testing, or spreading the word. you get the idea. My biggest itch was the frustration of getting a phone which, at that time, was not yet, say, a smooth phone, and still today has some rough edges, depending on distribution of course. I think this common experience is now acknowledged as what is hurting more the FR (leading to the slashdot post, but I'm also sure it can succeed and your recent posts are very convincing to me) Although I'm a programmer (C, Python), right now I can only spare a few hours a week which makes it difficult for me to be effective. Any suggestion how to best put my small resources at use? How much investment would it be needed to work on phone specific functions? I know this is the bazaar, but I miss a bit the cathedral to be more focused and effective. A todo list, who's doing what, change logs,... What's the status of FSO?? Maybe I have to explore better but there is a lot of info how there, spread all over, and too often not up to date. Working on documentation is also fine for me, but what is the most needed to choose from? What I would do is get in contact with the folks working on a specific distribution ( SHR for example) or specific piece of infrastructure Paroli, tichey,FSO, kernel and ask them these questions. The lack of a todo list and the lack of focused development has also been a frustration for me. It means development happens like an untended garden grows. But look what grew that we never imagined. What would be useful and what even non-coders can (partially) do: Updating and editing wiki pages to reflect the most recent development. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: graphical nethack for freerunner (alpha version released)
why do you need that full kb? wouldn't menu's be more finger friendly and faster? use the kb space for most used actions or something similar On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Aapo Rantalainen aapo.rantalai...@gmail.com wrote: http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/ Warnign: Not yet playable! http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5662/mynethack.png http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5608/mynethackwithmenu.png Thanks for images. This will be my first target when I have time to implement it. (If somebody want code this ready, please just do it) A) If there are full keyboard in visible, do we need menus at all? B) How this menu is accessible? C) In this tilesize, there are ~15x20 grid in visible. (this is not question, just mentioned it) D) How about pop-up windows (inventory etc.)? Just fullscreen list? E) I planned if that keyboard can be changed to corresponding command-icons, but there are couple times, when player needs full keyboard (naming objects, calling monsters, playing instruments, when asked name/wishes/genociding). So is there reason to have icons when playing and keyboard when needed? (It might be technically handled someway) -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: graphical nethack for freerunner (alpha version released)
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/ Warnign: Not yet playable! http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5662/mynethack.png http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5608/mynethackwithmenu.png Thanks for images. This will be my first target when I have time to implement it. (If somebody want code this ready, please just do it) A) If there are full keyboard in visible, do we need menus at all? B) How this menu is accessible? C) In this tilesize, there are ~15x20 grid in visible. (this is not question, just mentioned it) D) How about pop-up windows (inventory etc.)? Just fullscreen list? E) I planned if that keyboard can be changed to corresponding command-icons, but there are couple times, when player needs full keyboard (naming objects, calling monsters, playing instruments, when asked name/wishes/genociding). So is there reason to have icons when playing and keyboard when needed? (It might be technically handled someway) -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ? because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a company stops its entire development of new products in a product line... Yes. But as a user, I would be more saddened if Sean had annouced that gta03 was just around the corner and would be so different from the previous products that all support for those would be discontinued. I may sound old, but I think that the FR hardware (as well as the n810 hardware for that matter) is more than enough, and the inovation must now comes from the software part. The phone downsides are not in the hardware, so let's settle here and improve the software. From one perspective because FR is open you really don't have an EOL. unlike closed products. yes, there will come a day when certain parts are not available, but solving that problem is much more manageable than an entire new design. Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:34 AM, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO. I agree. If the GTA03 was going to be less capable anyway, we can live without it. It's too bad having to put up with the Glamo, but oh well. We continue to look at a glamoectomy; How much longer can GTA02's remain in production? Any impending part obsolescence to worry about? I would hazard that we see no issues through the end of 2009. If a part goes out of production, then you have a 'grey market' that lasts for some while. As the grey market drains you ordinarily would look to do a redesign. For example, remove glamo and switch GSM chips. That just an example folks so don't start down the path of defining GTA02+ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo
Does it work for FSO? Somehow it hangs up my FR. And there's something like Your system is too slow in the console =( On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:31 PM, pottwal4 pottw...@web.de wrote: Hi again. pottwal4 wrote: r...@om-gta02:~# mplayer -vo xover:glamo -fs /media/card/big_buck_bunny_320.avi mplayer doesn't know on which display it should open the video. Try (one line): DISPLAY=:0 mplayer -vo xover:glamo -fs /media/card/big_buck_bunny_320.avi Thanks Daniel, you was right! There was a problem concerning the $DISPLAY-Variable. But there was an other one, which I fixed, choosing the output device -vo glamo instead of -vo xover:glamo. So for everyone, how cares this what I do to get the example video running on the freerunner (inspired by http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player;): 1. Download an unpack mplayer-glamo (http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2) 2. Write a short bash-script vidplay to start the video (and save it on the Freerunner and make it executable (with chmod +x vidplay)): #!/bin/sh DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -display :0 --output default --mode 240x320 mplayer -vo glamo $1 /dev/null xrandr -display :0 --output default --mode 480x640 reset 3. Encode a video-file on my PC with: mencoder video-file -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -vf scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-.025,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:cbr -o video-file-FR.avi 4. Transfer this file from PC to Freerunner (using scp) scp video-file r...@phone:/media/card/ 5. Considering that the video-start-script and the video-file are now both located on the Freerunner in directory /media/card/, start the video with: cd /media/card ./vidplay video-file ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
Angus Ainslie wrote: Spring a time for new beginnings and we have a plan. An Om2009 release plan that is. For the remainder of March we are going to be integrating. We're going put FSO milestone 5.5, the stable kernel, paroli and the new xorg-glamo drivers together and make our most stable distro ever. Any incomplete features need to be finished and integrated before the end of March. The builds in March will be called Alpha builds, and will receive only partial testing. SNIP Hi, With the remainder of march being behind us, can you give an update on the release plan? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
c_c wrote: (BTW it works only in Illume WM, not in my standard system due to the fact that the window collapse withoutconsidering the preset evas size at all!) Yup ! Thats exactly what happened to me. OK - so I should try it on the FR. I have the code for it commented out in gui.c. Will try it on the FR ASAP. You can also use Xephyr for this. Launch it as: Xephyr :1 -ac -dpi 283 -screen 480x640+86+295 Then launch e with something like: DISPLAY=:1 enlightenment_start -profile illume And finally use that new display for testing intone ;) I'm assuming from the lack of bug-reports that either there aren't many show stoppers - or that people haven't got the time to let me know about them yet. Hope it's the first reason though :-) Well, I've not written this already, but if I run it in my OM2008 (where I've installed latest e17 svn) when I launch intone I only get a black window. It's so strange... No other elementary app does it! However if I'm not wrong another that is using my e17-svn rootfs had no issues... :| -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, April 07, 2009 a las 01:15:52PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez escribió: HI well topic says all Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.truxbrain.com/shop Yes, the topic says at all: NOW for 29 Euros (and maybe tomorrow for 1 Euro); it sounds that folks are leaving a sinking ship :-( Well, look at all the facts before drawing conclusions and speculating. 1. Tuxbrain is leading the pack by reworking their existing stock from A6 to A7 quality. 2. Tuxbrain is hosting rework parties for customers who bought phones. 3. They reduced the price on their leather cases. Those are the facts. Its sounds like they are in the crows nest looking to the future, not jumping ship. Ohoy! I have encountered in the FR the toy I was always looking for: a UNIX server with X11 for my pocket or belt which also can make phone calls, Internet, Wifi, GPS, ... I'm one of those using it as their only and daily phone device... but, where to go now in the future? well, the device will continue serving some time, maybe even years as it is, but after that? Thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how long freerunner will be produce ?
News which say that GTA02 isn't produced anymore are wrong. So you can sleep without troubles :D 2009/4/7, Mickael LABROUSSE m.labrou...@bcmd.fr: Hi everyone, I work in a french compagny making up a produce based on the freerunner. Sorry to open a new thread about this but I read everywhere on the Internet that Openmoko cancels gta03 and sometimes news talk about gta02 too !! So a simple question how long freerunner will be produce ?? Thanks a lot. Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how long freerunner will be produce ?
Hi. Mickael LABROUSSE wrote: Hi everyone, I work in a french compagny making up a produce based on the freerunner. Sorry to open a new thread about this but I read everywhere on the Internet that Openmoko cancels gta03 and sometimes news talk about gta02 too !! GTA03 was postponed. There is anew list on openmoko.org that will be dedicated to a community driven definition for this product. The whole product process will be opened up. So a simple question how long freerunner will be produce ?? As sean noted we have a good level of inventory for the retail demand that we currently see. In addition, we have Kits of components that can sustain production through 2009. Because we have some major potential customers we also monitor parts availability in case volume ramps dramatically. Go ahead and contact me at st...@openmoko.com and we can talk about your specific requirements, volume, pricing, timing. Thanks a lot. Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how long freerunner will be produce ?
Thanks for answering me. For the moment we have bought to one of your distributors providing us a very good price. It's very difficult for us to estimate how many GTA02 we are going to sell because it is part of a full offer. It can be be 50 or 100 or 500 per year. The other problem is that for some others reasons we don't think really sell so much this year but really start in 2010. I a little bit worried for our future with the GTA02. Thanks, Mickael. Steve Mosher a écrit : Hi. Mickael LABROUSSE wrote: Hi everyone, I work in a french compagny making up a produce based on the freerunner. Sorry to open a new thread about this but I read everywhere on the Internet that Openmoko cancels gta03 and sometimes news talk about gta02 too !! GTA03 was postponed. There is anew list on openmoko.org that will be dedicated to a community driven definition for this product. The whole product process will be opened up. So a simple question how long freerunner will be produce ?? As sean noted we have a good level of inventory for the retail demand that we currently see. In addition, we have Kits of components that can sustain production through 2009. Because we have some major potential customers we also monitor parts availability in case volume ramps dramatically. Go ahead and contact me at st...@openmoko.com and we can talk about your specific requirements, volume, pricing, timing. Thanks a lot. Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo
2009/4/8 Ivan Shirokov ivanshirok...@gmail.com: Does it work for FSO? Somehow it hangs up my FR. And there's something like Your system is too slow in the console =( Actually, the mplayer build that is suggested in the wiki uses mp3lib for decoding mp3 audio tracks by default. I suggest you adding afm=ffmpeg line to ~/.mplayer/config file to force using ffmpeg's internal mp3 decoder, or use a build without mp3lib support. It appears to be more than 3 times faster on my FR! Here is my ~/.mplayer/config file: vo=xover:glamo,x11 display=:0 afm=ffmpeg fs=1 quiet=1 osdlevel=0 noautosub=1 stop-xscreensaver=1 Hope it helps. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
