Re: New Open Hardware company
Wolfgang Are you a mechanical engineer? Or do you know some that are interested in joining to work on a free design and/or can do some coding too? :-) I`m a qualified mechanical engineer, currently finishing my Masters degree. Although I have some experience in solid modelling, I`m not that familiar with injection molding. As my primary interests are in simulation and optimization. Non the less, I would happily help out where I can with the mechanical aspects of the design. As far as coding goes, I`m a farely experienced python programming implementing all my own code in python. As far as the lower level languages go I still have to get around to learning them. There seems to be a lot of activity in HeeksCAD the last 6 months, so that's encouraging. It uses OpenCASCADE. Do you know other free 3D tools? The only free CAD/CAE software i`ve really used is Salome, which is also based on openCASCADE. regards, Adolph -- Adolph J. Vogel BEng(Hons) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
If I'm not mistaken, the owner of opkg.org stopped actively developing the site and released all it's code and asked the community to take over. On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:25:34 -0400 Staley, Daniel L dlst...@uky.edu wrote: Just to throw in my two centsI think the look and feel of opkg.org is great. I think whoever designed the page did a very nice job. However, I will agree that we need something to tell what Distro they have been tested on, and perhaps even a separate packagelist / repo created for each distro based on what distros they are said to work on. Perhaps the owner of opkg.org would let someone else log onto the server and make these changes? It would really be a shame to just create a replacement of itlike I said, the site layout is really pretty nice. -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
It may be nice to have an example of how the final draft may appears and see how backgrounded templates impacts, effectively the v1 + os table may be the best. OK, i'll try to do it soon -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] update shr quite safely
ok, thanks! (i'll try to reduce my useless cats)
but awk syntax is really awkward ;-) do you know a bright guide for awk?
(please not man awk...)
d
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote:
Because you launched 1 program then 4 programs in background, which
are fed to a while loop = much memory + cpu usage.
With... opkg list_upgradable | awk '!/(kernel|Multiple)/ {print $1}'
... you now launch less 3 programs than before (two greps and one cat),
while feeding exactly the same output to the while loop. :)
If you grep then awk or awk then grep, then 99% of the time you're
uselessly greping. Awk greps better than grep, specially when you
want to transform the output :)
Also a nice read: Useless use of cat
http://www.google.pt/search?q=useless+use+of+cat
Rui
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:40:26PM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
he he this is the power of opensource...
why you said that is heavy? (i just want to learn, i'm quite newbie in
scripting and expecially using awk...)
d
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:18:07PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:49:19PM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
I want to share my little bash script to update shr without
distroying
my
existing kernel (a true 2.6.28).
It's really stupid, but maybe someone could find it interesting.
opkg list_upgradable upgradable
cat upgradable | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v kernel | grep -v
Multiple |
while read line
do echo installing pack $line
opkg install $line
done
I have a script called upgrade.sh and I run that one. If you don't
want
to
update for example tangogps (or wathever) just add
grep -v tangogps |
just before while read line...
Nice. But a little heavy on the little Neos :) May I suggest a
possible
alternative?
oops a mistake, this one is corrected, though:
opkg list_upgradable | awk '!/(kernel|Multiple)/ {print $1}' | \
while read line; do
echo installing pack $line
opkg install $line
done
Rui
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Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!
Thanks Onen. You are right but I would like to have a 'clear statement' about the cell logging process. If I use one of those 2 applications and submitt my data, do I contribute to the community? That's my goal as a 'regular and dummy user'! I am willing to help but what's the best way to achieve the most? Thanks Tony On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, this has been discussed a couple of times on this mailing list already. You will find the details in the archive here [1]. But to sum it up: We are focusing on quality of data, and not only quantity, because we believe otherwise we will have a big database of useless data. We are interested in logging other things too, such as Wi-Fi. We are working on a location service (we are talking with people from FSO), in order to get your location from the data. We are also ready to log extra info people think might be useful, even if we don't use it for now. Thus the database might be used to try location algorithms, security, etc. We are releasing improvements on a regular basis. And all help is of course welcome!!! Feel free if you have more questions, Onen [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-June/049013.html Tony Berth wrote: Hi, what's the difference to 'cellhunter'? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
Less man power is the right way of putting it. There still is development on both projects but less than before. Laszlo is doing a great job improving things in paroli which I am very thankful for. There still is the plan to release a final version of Om2009. It would be good if we could assemble a list of problems in paroli that need fixing for the release. I must admit this whole thread is starting to worry me. I don`t mean to pester but could someone please provide some clarrification on the status of Om2009 / Paroli? If it is a case of not enough man power, It might be good to assemble a list, as mirko suggested, of tasks that still need to be done for a release. Then we can start knocking them down. regards, Adolph -- Adolph J. Vogel BEng(Hons) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] update shr quite safely
Most of my knowledge of cat comes from:
a) man page
b) a class where one of the subjects was programming in awk (and other tools)
c) web search for particular cases, problems, or examples :)
Perhaps googling for awk howto or awk programming etc...
However, it's probably not worth investing a lot of time in awk unless
you really have to (grades, salary, etc...)
Rui
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:57:42AM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
ok, thanks! (i'll try to reduce my useless cats)
but awk syntax is really awkward ;-) do you know a bright guide for awk?
(please not man awk...)
d
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
r...@1407.orgwrote:
Because you launched 1 program then 4 programs in background, which
are fed to a while loop = much memory + cpu usage.
With... opkg list_upgradable | awk '!/(kernel|Multiple)/ {print $1}'
... you now launch less 3 programs than before (two greps and one cat),
while feeding exactly the same output to the while loop. :)
If you grep then awk or awk then grep, then 99% of the time you're
uselessly greping. Awk greps better than grep, specially when you
want to transform the output :)
Also a nice read: Useless use of cat
http://www.google.pt/search?q=useless+use+of+cat
Rui
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:40:26PM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
he he this is the power of opensource...
why you said that is heavy? (i just want to learn, i'm quite newbie in
scripting and expecially using awk...)
d
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:18:07PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:49:19PM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
I want to share my little bash script to update shr without
distroying
my
existing kernel (a true 2.6.28).
It's really stupid, but maybe someone could find it interesting.
opkg list_upgradable upgradable
cat upgradable | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v kernel | grep -v
Multiple |
while read line
do echo installing pack $line
opkg install $line
done
I have a script called upgrade.sh and I run that one. If you don't
want
to
update for example tangogps (or wathever) just add
grep -v tangogps |
just before while read line...
Nice. But a little heavy on the little Neos :) May I suggest a
possible
alternative?
oops a mistake, this one is corrected, though:
opkg list_upgradable | awk '!/(kernel|Multiple)/ {print $1}' | \
while read line; do
echo installing pack $line
opkg install $line
done
Rui
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Re: [shr-u] update shr quite safely
man page of awk is humongous!
...it's probably not worth investing a lot of time in awk unless you really
have to (grades, salary, etc...)
he he ok, i'll wait. Thanks for your tips, at least i learnt some things ;-)
d
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote:
Most of my knowledge of cat comes from:
a) man page
b) a class where one of the subjects was programming in awk (and other
tools)
c) web search for particular cases, problems, or examples :)
Perhaps googling for awk howto or awk programming etc...
However, it's probably not worth investing a lot of time in awk unless
you really have to (grades, salary, etc...)
Rui
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:57:42AM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
ok, thanks! (i'll try to reduce my useless cats)
but awk syntax is really awkward ;-) do you know a bright guide for
awk?
(please not man awk...)
d
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org
wrote:
Because you launched 1 program then 4 programs in background, which
are fed to a while loop = much memory + cpu usage.
With... opkg list_upgradable | awk '!/(kernel|Multiple)/ {print $1}'
... you now launch less 3 programs than before (two greps and one cat),
while feeding exactly the same output to the while loop. :)
If you grep then awk or awk then grep, then 99% of the time you're
uselessly greping. Awk greps better than grep, specially when you
want to transform the output :)
Also a nice read: Useless use of cat
http://www.google.pt/search?q=useless+use+of+cat
Rui
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:40:26PM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
he he this is the power of opensource...
why you said that is heavy? (i just want to learn, i'm quite newbie
in
scripting and expecially using awk...)
d
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
r...@1407.org
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:18:07PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:49:19PM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
I want to share my little bash script to update shr without
distroying
my
existing kernel (a true 2.6.28).
It's really stupid, but maybe someone could find it
interesting.
opkg list_upgradable upgradable
cat upgradable | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v kernel | grep -v
Multiple |
while read line
do echo installing pack $line
opkg install $line
done
I have a script called upgrade.sh and I run that one. If you
don't
want
to
update for example tangogps (or wathever) just add
grep -v tangogps |
just before while read line...
Nice. But a little heavy on the little Neos :) May I suggest a
possible
alternative?
oops a mistake, this one is corrected, though:
opkg list_upgradable | awk '!/(kernel|Multiple)/ {print $1}' | \
while read line; do
echo installing pack $line
opkg install $line
done
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Re: [shr-u] update shr quite safely
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Re: [shr-u] update shr quite safely
Oh, awk is useful, for a lot of things, but it's not such an important thing if you have more important stuff to learn/do :) As a sysadmin, I have some professional motivation to know a bit of awk :) Rui On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:11:02AM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote: man page of awk is humongous! ...it's probably not worth investing a lot of time in awk unless you really have to (grades, salary, etc...) he he ok, i'll wait. Thanks for your tips, at least i learnt some things ;-) -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
Dnia 2009-07-25, sob o godzinie 09:36 -0400, Jon 'maddog' Hall pisze: V1 with table underneath left-hand picture Sorry maddog, i do not understand. I assume you would like to modify V1, but could you explain how more precisely? -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
Looks like it is going to evolute little more. For now i vote for V2. Don't confuse with 2nd WW German's rockets ;) -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
I like V1, but there has to be some sort of clear defining line that defines the border between two of them(line, etc). It would also be really great if it had either V3 or V4's table, as that is really nice. Take a look if V7(1+3) or V7(1+3) is better. I have doubled each version to show how they would look like next to each other. Now it is visible that with V1 and derivatives, there is no clear distinction between DistroBoxes. V2 has no such flaw :). Before someone says to put line (HR ?) between those - i do not know how to do it without adding additional line above/below all DistroBoxes. Any hints? -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
[cut] I prefer the first template too. but is it possible to have the third column (hardware/works) for that one ? Done. Take a look if V7(1+3) or V7(1+3) is better. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] opimd-utils args
Hi, I quickly want to add my huge list of contacts into opimd, so I installed opimd-utils and opimd-cli c add seems to be promising. What I would like to know, if someone can help me, is what are the rest of the arguments to add... I suspect this is how you do it: opimd-cli c add name Rui Seabra tel +351 But are there more fields it supports? Multiple tels, etc? Thanks in advance, Rui -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] update oddities
i ran opkg upgrade tonight, and got a huge number of errors, concerning files that opkg wanted to delete: * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/htop.png|f3bf8110b7c66985c0e9511518eb0451 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/gpe-sketchbook.png|6a5a7da437cc6bf601f23a0205aeeb8d failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/gpe-scap.png|04b94cdcdf0490559d238fcb963900fa failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/openmoko-messages.png|b27a3e8bced6fd3b8c7836e0e8921e91 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libfso-glib.so|83b0827d697d3502f4cffbbae598e51a failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/vala/vapi/fso-glib-1.0.vapi|b62e0c6fa3cc6a99a88f9e0f74f804d8 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/pkgconfig/fso-glib-1.0.pc|1a1e023fe3ad97561e6d30d337a89143 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/vala/vapi/fso-glib-1.0.deps|d607d95150c6a0a52126e84a8b0e3c5c failed: No such file or directory and (slightly worryingly, looks like a load of python stuff has issues, although the files listed are still on the system): * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/netlink/generic.pyo|8741d83c8f953579d21d920d78404a0f failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ubx.pyo|68e03ea1331fed87fe642b8b532d9224 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opreferencesd/schema.pyo|ccfed8532319e9f5be5a1b4b621e3e00 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py|33b3cf5a36061e5eb24115953aded764 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxutil/ip.py|42943857b35986ace4b25036bb48573e failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/mediator.pyo|796c09d1431125cc29f97c7cb3a2ff54 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/__init__.pyo|3835845944aa95b483b557b0f9b7eedd failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py|6f3a52d21a5598fbdde7439dd868147f failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/qualcomm_msm/channel.py|568e9f718c4f6c92ec88dd7165266fcb failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/netlink/rtnl.pyo|4be9c018f683c84d24f7ce3bddc196dd failed: No such file or directory this is only a snippet of them, there was more than 20 pages of yakuake history with these in i see each has a 32 character hex string after the filename, is this relevant? oh, and one update failed, because an updated frameworkd-config-shr was missing otherwise, all looks good. any ideas? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] opimd-utils args
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:03, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: Hi, I quickly want to add my huge list of contacts into opimd, so I installed opimd-utils and opimd-cli c add seems to be promising. What I would like to know, if someone can help me, is what are the rest of the arguments to add... I suspect this is how you do it: opimd-cli c add name Rui Seabra tel +351 But are there more fields it supports? Multiple tels, etc? Thanks in advance, Rui You can have as many fields, as you want. Use Name, Phone, Type phone names. PS. In newest opimd-cli and opimd there is support of multiple fields with the same name. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
[cut] It may be nice to have an example of how the final draft may appears and see how backgrounded templates impacts, effectively the v1 + os table may be the best. Done, I have doubled each version to show how they would look like next to each other. Now it is visible that with V1 and derivatives, there is no clear distinction between DistroBoxes. V2 has no such flaw :) - take a look here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Update_Draft -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
[cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a snapshot and AFAIK I never saw a [...] guess why their software crashes on latest shr, rebuild and upload again on opkg.org and so on). Well, Sebastian, i have to say Nicola has a point here. I agree. [cut] -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] opimd-utils args
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:25:34PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:03, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: Hi, I quickly want to add my huge list of contacts into opimd, so I installed opimd-utils and opimd-cli c add seems to be promising. What I would like to know, if someone can help me, is what are the rest of the arguments to add... I suspect this is how you do it: opimd-cli c add name Rui Seabra tel +351 But are there more fields it supports? Multiple tels, etc? Thanks in advance, Rui You can have as many fields, as you want. Use Name, Phone, Type phone names. PS. In newest opimd-cli and opimd there is support of multiple fields with the same name. Do you have that documented somewhere else besides the source code? :) As soon as I can get my shr-unstable environment to compile (it now breaks, will post a thread about it real soon, now), I'll download from repo and check it out, but I don't know how soon that will be... Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:41, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a snapshot and AFAIK I never saw a [...] guess why their software crashes on latest shr, rebuild and upload again on opkg.org and so on). Well, Sebastian, i have to say Nicola has a point here. I agree. [cut] No, I don't agree. It's natural than packages builded on your own will be outdated some time in future. That's why I think opkg.org is bad idea as www repo (it should be rather app overview). If someone wants to have his package available in SHR, then we're accepting bb files, and if they builds - then packages are added to feed. And author of app doesn't have to care about packaging, and everyone is happy. Packaging apps on your own is bad by design (unless you're packaging closed source apps, but they are also bad :P), not changes in SHR. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
a script to find broken packages before they break you!
hello list. I wrote this little script taking inspiration from the powerful gentoo command revdep-rebuild. It scans all the binary files in /usr/bin and shows the broken ones (the ones linking non existent library) #!/bin/sh for i in $(find /usr/bin/*); do broken=$(ldd $i | grep not found) if [ $broken != ]; then echo $i: $broken fi done i called it /usr/local/bin/revdep-scan when you run it it prints an output like this: /usr/bin/fsousaged: libfsoframework.so.0 = not found i have also seen that you can issue an opkg search missing_lib_path to find the package to reinstall, but you must pass the whole path, like /usr/lib/libfsoframework.so.0 for it to work, so i'm not able to guess it automatically (i could just try /usr/lib ...) -- roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
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Re: [CU] voting required
V1 with table underneath left-hand picture Sorry maddog, i do not understand. I assume you would like to modify V1, but could you explain how more precisely? Sorry, I tried to take a short cut in my description. I like the over-all look of V1, but I also like the working hardware box. By putting the working hardware box in a column by itself, making a three-column layout, you reduce the amount of space for column two, which makes the page longer showing the same amount of information. I suggest that the working hardware box of V3 be moved to the first column under the left-hand picture of the application/distribution. Then the home page, Image, Tested on Hardware, etc. which is now at the bottom of the page could also be listed in the left hand column beneath the working hardware box. This would allow the right hand column (of what is now a two-column page) to be just text on a white background. md ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: I assume you would like to modify V1, but could you explain how more precisely? I like the over-all look of V1, but I also like the working hardware box. By putting the working hardware box in a column by itself, making a three-column layout, you reduce the amount of space for column two, which makes the page longer showing the same amount of information. I suggest that the working hardware box of V3 be moved to the first column under the left-hand picture of the application/distribution. Then the home page, Image, Tested on Hardware, etc. which is now at the bottom of the page could also be listed in the left hand column beneath the working hardware box. This would allow the right hand column (of what is now a two-column page) to be just text on a white background. I was just trying to describe exactly the same thing. I like this approach, based on the clean V1, and think that it will be clear enough where one section stops and the other starts by the picture/title associated with each table. If that doesn't work, in my mind a simple 1px gray light border would work better than the block colours, which can be a little over-powering. Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 13:14, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/7/27 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com Packaging apps on your own is bad by design (unless you're packaging closed source apps, but they are also bad :P), not changes in SHR. No it's not bad by design, because some people use other distros than SHR, like Om2008. Having one package for few incompatible systems is even worse :P Plus if someone publishes a new app or a new version, everyone can just 'opkg install url' instead of waiting for SHR developers to include the app in their repository (assuming everyone uses SHR). For interesting apps from Openmoko community we're setting AUTOREV, so it's always the newest version. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 01:14:45PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/7/27 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com Packaging apps on your own is bad by design (unless you're packaging closed source apps, but they are also bad :P), not changes in SHR. No it's not bad by design, because some people use other distros than SHR, like Om2008. Yes, it is *very* bad by design. It would be much better if opkg.org would contain several repo's, each oriented to a specific distro, and when one ould upload a package one would specify the distros it will work on, and then it get's added to the local repo. Plus if someone publishes a new app or a new version, everyone can just 'opkg install url' instead of waiting for SHR developers to include the app in their repository (assuming everyone uses SHR). You don't have to use only the pre-defined repo's, you can set your own repo and point at it. No need to wait for the distro developers, this is not Apple Store :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
Dnia 2009-07-27, pon o godzinie 13:01 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak pisze: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:41, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a snapshot and AFAIK I never saw a [...] guess why their software crashes on latest shr, rebuild and upload again on opkg.org and so on). Well, Sebastian, i have to say Nicola has a point here. I agree. [cut] No, I don't agree. It's natural than packages builded on your own will be outdated some time in future. That's why I think opkg.org is bad idea as www repo (it should be rather app overview). Read again what Nicola wrote: *I never saw a backport to testing... I neither saw, did you? *actually shr is...way...to use...FR in a modern way out of the box again agree and I think you agree too :) *please provide a really supported testing *branch* and not a snapshot Do you think SHR devs shouldn't provide genuine testing branch? These are the points i agree with. Probably you just looked at the last sentence, cause i have cited whole paragraph? [cut] -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a script to find broken packages before they break you!
for the script to work you may need to opkg install ldd, if it's not installed by default on your distribution. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Previdi Roberto previdi.robe...@gmail.comwrote: ... broken=$(ldd $i | grep not found) ... -- roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mokomaze + Git
Hi Folks, Source code of Mokomaze is maintained in Git now [1]. Homepage, documentation, files, bug tracking system etc. are still at the old place [2]. [1] http://github.com/Sektor/mokomaze/ [2] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Mokomaze-%2B-Git-tp710p710.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mokomaze + Git
v0.5.5 is out: * Added pass-through-checkpoints game mode + 3 new levels to demonstrate it (##14-16) * Latest extended levelpack is included by default now * Keep level switching button pressed to fast-forward/fast-rewind * Works fine with libode from OM's repository * Many minor fixes and improvements Installation instructions are updated (see homepage or opkg.org). New game mode allows to create levels where screen space is used more rationally (less dead zones). Online level editor was also updated so feel free to share your multi-checkpoint levels. Have Fun, Anton -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Mokomaze-%2B-Git-tp710p720.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mokomaze + Git
Some notes: 1) I have found that since mokomaze package is in OM's repo now, it may be tricky to install it from other places (including homepage). E.g. package from OM's repo is named mokomaze-0.5.1-r7 and opkg think that it is preferable since official build is named mokomaze-0.5.1-1. Check opkg's installation log to know what package you really got. 2) It seems that game runs slower than before on latest SHR unstable, but it still runs fluidly on Hackable:1 rev4. 3) Mokomaze from OM's repo has wrong GUI text color (blue). As described in README: there is --enable-rgb-swap option for ./configure that may help to avoid font color swapping which is assumed to be yellow-orange, not blue. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Mokomaze-%2B-Git-tp710p734.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery not fully charging
Hi
Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore.
How do you estimate the charge?
by looking at the icons in illume and paroli :-)
ok, let me try a
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced \
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery \
org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo
after loading a full night:
{ 'capacity': '96',
'charge_full': '1121337',
'current_now': '29437',
'health': 'Good',
'online': '1',
'present': '1',
'status': 'Charging',
'technology': 'Li-ion',
'temp': '313',
'time_to_empty_now': '138840',
'time_to_full_now': '3932100',
'type': 'Battery',
'voltage_now': '4128000'}
.. but i'm not sure what means what.
does this look bad ?
$2c,
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Re: [CU] voting required
[cut] associated with each table. If that doesn't work, in my mind a simple 1px gray light border would work better than the block colours, which can be a little over-powering. 1 px added for you where relevant. Tell me how do you like it now. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
[cut] I like the over-all look of V1, but I also like the working hardware box. By putting the working hardware box in a column by itself, making a three-column layout, you reduce the amount of space for column two, which makes the page longer showing the same amount of information. I suggest that the working hardware box of V3 be moved to the first column under the left-hand picture of the application/distribution. Then the home page, Image, Tested on Hardware, etc. which is now at the bottom of the page could also be listed in the left hand column beneath the working hardware box. This would allow the right hand column (of what is now a two-column page) to be just text on a white background. Now i get it :). Excuse me but my English speaking skills fails sometimes. V8 made and ready for review. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery not fully charging
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 15:36, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote:
Hi
Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore.
How do you estimate the charge?
by looking at the icons in illume and paroli :-)
ok, let me try a
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced \
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery \
org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo
after loading a full night:
{ 'capacity': '96',
'charge_full': '1121337',
'current_now': '29437',
'health': 'Good',
'online': '1',
'present': '1',
'status': 'Charging',
'technology': 'Li-ion',
'temp': '313',
'time_to_empty_now': '138840',
'time_to_full_now': '3932100',
'type': 'Battery',
'voltage_now': '4128000'}
.. but i'm not sure what means what.
does this look bad ?
$2c,
*-pike
Your battery is ok, it reports 96% of charge ('capacity').
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Re: om2009/paroli status
On July 27, 2009 03:04:30 am Adolph J. Vogel wrote: I must admit this whole thread is starting to worry me. I don`t mean to pester but could someone please provide some clarrification on the status of Om2009 / Paroli? Om2009 is moving forward very slowly at the moment. My time is currently very limited for this volunteer project. The current issue I'm trying to solve is WSOD with the 2.6.29-rc2 kernel by jumping to the 2.6.30 kernel. This work is going on in the experimental branch and will be pushed into unstable at some point. If it is a case of not enough man power, It might be good to assemble a list, as mirko suggested, of tasks that still need to be done for a release. Then we can start knocking them down. 3 issues that need solving SIM card full when it's not really full as the messages are stored in the rootfs. Contacts disappearing Display menu is gone. Fixes for these and other problems you may find can be sent as patches, Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery not fully charging
Hi
Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore.
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced \
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery \
org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo
after loading a full night:
{ 'capacity': '96',
'charge_full': '1121337',
'current_now': '29437',
'health': 'Good',
'online': '1',
'present': '1',
'status': 'Charging',
'technology': 'Li-ion',
'temp': '313',
'time_to_empty_now': '138840',
'time_to_full_now': '3932100',
'type': 'Battery',
'voltage_now': '4128000'}
Your battery is ok, it reports 96% of charge ('capacity').
is it charged ? the icons say its at about 50% ?
its been on juice for near 12 hours.
thanks,
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Re: [all] ffalarms led color
Hi, No one before asked for an option to change the color in ffalarms. So for you may change LED_COLOR in ffalarms.edc [1], recompile and replace the theme. [1] http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/data/ffalarms.edc?rev=27root=ffalarmsview=auto (this is 0.2.3 version) very cool, two questions though. when i opened up the file there are 4 values for color rather then the 3 i am used to #define LED_COLOR 0 255 0 255 along with that, how does one re-compile for the openmoko. is it on the wiki? - jeremy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fooling opkg
hello list. i tried update/upgrade my shr-unstable, and unfortunately the phone frozen after having updated some packages. when i rebooted, i restarted with opkg upgrade but now the system is broken. i don't want to go into the details of why it broke.. what i now would like to do is to modify the timestamp of the last update of opkg, so when i do another opkg update/upgrade -force-reinstall it will overwrite all the packages. how can i fool opkg in this way? -- roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fooling opkg
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2009 17:03:14 schrieb Previdi Roberto: hello list. i tried update/upgrade my shr-unstable, and unfortunately the phone frozen after having updated some packages. when i rebooted, i restarted with opkg upgrade but now the system is broken. i don't want to go into the details of why it broke.. what i now would like to do is to modify the timestamp of the last update of opkg, so when i do another opkg update/upgrade -force-reinstall it will overwrite all the packages. how can i fool opkg in this way? Afaik opkg doesn't have such a timestamp but checks the package's version and only updates if there is a newer package. It would be useful if you told us what really happened... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: New Open Hardware company
Christoph, Thank you for a very thoughtful email. I appreciate your inputs on this topic. This is my outing, that I never really understand the concept of open(moko) :-) From my observations of this list, I do not think you are the only one. 2. Considering this, you have to arrange with a compromis. Life is full of compromises, but you can still have goals and (as you have mentioned) a vision. A vision and the goals (both short-term and long-term) to meet that vision move you in a direction and help you to reject side-paths that might distract you. IMO any device which you can put free SW on it, is a acceptable one. But what is the definition of Free Software? And at what level? Is it Free Software to have a GSM module that has binary firmware, but a firm programming interface for kernel engineers to write against? Is it Free Software to have a binary-only kernel module, but allow GNU libraries and applications above that? Is it Free Software to put Open Office on top of Microsoft Windows? I will argue that (working backwards) every piece of proprietary, closed-source software you eliminate is getting closer to the goals and vision of Free Software. So I personally advocate to people who want their friends to try Free Software to start them out with Firefox and Open Office on top of Microsoft first, and then work with them to replace more and more of the rest of the proprietary software. Is this as good as having them use an entire distribution of Free Software? Perhaps not, but it gets them going in the right direction. What we need is high-end-hardware with a lot of options. THIS is what attracts an active community. I tend to agree with you on this. But since I am not infallible, I think there may be room for a simpler piece of hardware that people can do things with. Even if the GTA03 was available today, assuming we could get enough parts to keep producing the GTA02 I might advocate the continued production of the GTA02. The GTA02 would be a less expensive phone for those that might not be able to afford the features of the GTA03. And as new software features get integrated into the pool of software for the GTA03, they would be available for retrofitting to the GTA02. Another issue is volume of units in circulation. There has to be a sustainable volume to support a community of developers, even for backports. And the effort to backport has to be easy enough. I do not think that the GTA01 (for example) had reached that volume, nor was the ease of backporting and maintaining the kernel and distribution easily justified. 3. The way to create a 100% open parallel-world (as it seems your vision Steve), is to establish a GSM-independent network. (eg. as Sean mentioned once a WLAN-peer-to-peer network) IMO it's too late for it. I am not sure that it is too late to create a WLAN-peer-to-peer network. It might exist as an alternative network for those that wish to use it. But, that was your opinion, and you are welcome to have it. 4. The idea of community works fine with software, but not with hardware modifications. It has to do with missing knowledge, capacities and money. I heard the same arguments about the ability of a community to create a complex project like the kernel of an operating system, or a distribution of an operating system back in 1994. People were still saying it can't be done although distributions like Slackware, Red Hat and SuSE were gathering steam. Most of those people who said it can't be done to me now work for Red Hat. Certainly hardware has different needs, and you are right about some of them. But I think these needs, once recognized, can be addressed. Once again, I honour everybody with a vision. And I am aware my comments are from a very banal money-earning point of view. Actually there is nothing wrong with a very banal money-earning point of view. In fact, I think that more attention to that point of view is necessary for the Openmoko project to succeed. When I first joined the Linux community I saw a project that was being worked on as a hobby or for technical people, and what I perceived was a project that could have huge commercial impact to the computer industry. I thought to myself that the project would continue no matter what, but if people were allowed to make money on it then it would move forward much faster. If the community resisted those commercial efforts, then the people who had those commercial interests would fight Free Software, slowing its spread. I approached the Linux community with this idea, and there were some people who said I do not want people to make money off the software that I write for free. Those people (unfortunately some very good people) soon left the Linux project. Others, such as Linus, understood what I was saying, and embraced this model. I might argue that some of the issues of the first round of Openmoko was that banal money-earning issues were not addressed fully. Perhaps
Re: fooling opkg
you can make opkg list all your installe packages then write a simple script (modifying the one i posted today) that install all the packages with -force-reinstall... but it's faster to reinstall ;-) d On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 27. Juli 2009 17:03:14 schrieb Previdi Roberto: hello list. i tried update/upgrade my shr-unstable, and unfortunately the phone frozen after having updated some packages. when i rebooted, i restarted with opkg upgrade but now the system is broken. i don't want to go into the details of why it broke.. what i now would like to do is to modify the timestamp of the last update of opkg, so when i do another opkg update/upgrade -force-reinstall it will overwrite all the packages. how can i fool opkg in this way? Afaik opkg doesn't have such a timestamp but checks the package's version and only updates if there is a newer package. It would be useful if you told us what really happened... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debug board for sale
I bought a debug board with my FR in Jan 2009. I think I took it out of the anti-static bag once and that's it. Other than that, it's been sitting there. I don't even remember booting it once. I've got too many other projects demanding too much attention to make use of it any time soon. Said projects are also demanding $$$, so I really don't want to donate it. I'd prefer to sell it locally here in the SF Bay Area, but would entertain other options if somebody really wanted it. You get: Debug board standoffs screwdriver USB mini B cable. in original box/packing. $85 OBO Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 14:00, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Dnia 2009-07-27, pon o godzinie 13:01 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak pisze: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:41, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a snapshot and AFAIK I never saw a [...] guess why their software crashes on latest shr, rebuild and upload again on opkg.org and so on). Well, Sebastian, i have to say Nicola has a point here. I agree. [cut] No, I don't agree. It's natural than packages builded on your own will be outdated some time in future. That's why I think opkg.org is bad idea as www repo (it should be rather app overview). Read again what Nicola wrote: *I never saw a backport to testing... I neither saw, did you? *actually shr is...way...to use...FR in a modern way out of the box again agree and I think you agree too :) *please provide a really supported testing *branch* and not a snapshot Do you think SHR devs shouldn't provide genuine testing branch? These are the points i agree with. Probably you just looked at the last sentence, cause i have cited whole paragraph? [cut] But these are the points I already said I agree with, and I also said that SHR is going this way. I thought I don't have to repeat it :x -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] associated with each table. If that doesn't work, in my mind a simple 1px gray light border would work better than the block colours, which can be a little over-powering. 1 px added for you where relevant. Tell me how do you like it now. I Like it - particularly the one with two columns (not three) and the 1px orange border. Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
Patryk, Now i get it :). Excuse me but my English speaking skills fails sometimes. It was entirely my fault for not being clear enough. V8 made and ready for review. I Like it - particularly the one with two columns (not three) and the 1px orange border. I agree with David. md ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Hi, Well, here's the latest bug-fix version of intone. * minor GUI changes * progress during scan * settings shows bt when streaming to bt * more tolerant streaming over bt * bt button support * previous key followed by pause key not pausing fix Enjoy! http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3334941/intone_0.61_arm.ipk intone_0.61_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.60-Almost-Stable---%29-tp3283204p3334941.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
It would be nice if it remembered from one run to the next to use BT headset... Other than that, it's great. :) It's doing well with my evil superfluous keypresses, and I love that it turns on BT and uinput automatically now. Saves me a lot of time when I try to listen to music. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
looks great - I took the liberty of adding the version #'s into the output created by the template, so you can see the version #'s on the draft community page. My preference is '8a' Warren On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.plwrote: [cut] I like the over-all look of V1, but I also like the working hardware box. By putting the working hardware box in a column by itself, making a three-column layout, you reduce the amount of space for column two, which makes the page longer showing the same amount of information. I suggest that the working hardware box of V3 be moved to the first column under the left-hand picture of the application/distribution. Then the home page, Image, Tested on Hardware, etc. which is now at the bottom of the page could also be listed in the left hand column beneath the working hardware box. This would allow the right hand column (of what is now a two-column page) to be just text on a white background. Now i get it :). Excuse me but my English speaking skills fails sometimes. V8 made and ready for review. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] ffalarms led color
jeremy jozwik schrieb: Hi, No one before asked for an option to change the color in ffalarms. So for you may change LED_COLOR in ffalarms.edc [1], recompile and replace the theme. [1] http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/data/ffalarms.edc?rev=27root=ffalarmsview=auto (this is 0.2.3 version) very cool, two questions though. when i opened up the file there are 4 values for color rather then the 3 i am used to #define LED_COLOR 0 255 0 255 along with that, how does one re-compile for the openmoko. is it on the wiki? - jeremy every good edj file ships with build script so use build.sh for recompilation. about colors: the 4th value is the alpha channel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
This is great! Thanks c_c! This is my main music player now! It works great with my bt headset! (Lubix NC1) http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=viewc_idx=c0005c_type=06str_block=l001 All my headset keypresses work and it seems to recover fine from the bluetooth hiccups that mplayer seems to have occasionally. Thanks again! -Dan Staley On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:51 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if it remembered from one run to the next to use BT headset... Other than that, it's great. :) It's doing well with my evil superfluous keypresses, and I love that it turns on BT and uinput automatically now. Saves me a lot of time when I try to listen to music. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a script to find broken packages before they break you!
2009/7/27 Previdi Roberto previdi.robe...@gmail.com: hello list. I wrote this little script taking inspiration from the powerful gentoo command revdep-rebuild. It scans all the binary files in /usr/bin and shows the broken ones (the ones linking non existent library) Nice work! Presumably it only catches those that binaries are directly dependent on. If there are any that only other libraries are dependent upon, they won't be caught. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!
Hi Tony, Tony Berth wrote: Thanks Onen. You are right but I would like to have a 'clear statement' about the cell logging process. If I use one of those 2 applications and submitt my data, do I contribute to the community? That's my goal as a 'regular and dummy user'! If you use any of the two projects, you contribute to the community, because the data is available from both projects. But I (of course ;-) ) thinks it is better to use openBmap. I am willing to help but what's the best way to achieve the most? I am not sure this should be my role. I mean, I can give you my arguments, but it is your choice to make. But if you want a clear statement from me: use openBmap! If I would not believe at the most in openBmap, I would not spend my time on it. So if you ask me, I will of course tell you to use our project. I don't think it helps you a lot though, I might be biased ;-) What else would you expect from me? We tend to log more, we focus on logging high quality data, you can find your data in our tools a couple of hours after uploading it (maps, etc., look at it, to see if you like it). These are some of my arguments as stated in my first answer. If you want more details feel free to ask. But, in the end, you should make *your* choice :-) I hope it is somehow what you were expecting. If not please be more specific. Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery not fully charging
On Monday 27 July 2009, pike wrote:
Hi
Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore.
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced \
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery \
org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo
after loading a full night:
{ 'capacity': '96',
'charge_full': '1121337',
'current_now': '29437',
'health': 'Good',
'online': '1',
'present': '1',
'status': 'Charging',
'technology': 'Li-ion',
'temp': '313',
'time_to_empty_now': '138840',
'time_to_full_now': '3932100',
'type': 'Battery',
'voltage_now': '4128000'}
Your battery is ok, it reports 96% of charge ('capacity').
is it charged ? the icons say its at about 50% ?
its been on juice for near 12 hours.
You didn't mention the distro (or I missed it), but the illume battery icon
has been known to report wrong values. IIRC this is because it gets the battey
info via HAL, and reports the average if more than one battery is found. HAL
sometimes reports the USB connection as an empty battery, effectively halving
the charge level shown by the battery icon.
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Re: battery not fully charging
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 06:35:24PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: How do you estimate the charge? /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity, voltage estimated with /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now. An multimeter confirmed the voltage reading. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery not fully charging
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 01:57:27PM +0200, pike wrote:
Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore.
This didnt just gradually change, but happened 'all of a sudden'.
It charges - connected to the charger - up to ~50% of its capacity
and doesnt seem to go any further.
I've seen that too, except it would only charge to 40 % or 3.8 V. It did
not fix itself over a few days. Eventually, I shut down the FR, removed
battery and external power and let it sit there for 5 minutes. When I put
the battery back in and reconnected external power, it charged just fine.
I took dumps of /sys/.../pcf50633.../dump_all_regs during the problem and
compared them to dumps taken when I got it to charge fully again, but
nothing showed up.
The only thing I can think of that might have provoced the problem is
that I was experimenting with modulation of the vibrator brightness.
Something like this:
# for i in {,1,2,1,,1,2,1,,1,2,1,}50 0; do \
echo /sys/class/leds/neo1973\:vibrator/brightness $i; \
sleep 0.2; done
That's not neccesarily a wise thing to do, but the schematics seems to
have all the required protection components around the vibrator motor.
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Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:02:32PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009 06:56:22 pm Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP It charges fine while it is off, just not faster than 500 mA. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is your GPS working today?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 08:48:52PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Hey guys! I have really small question. Is your GPS working now? Yes. Debian with dist-upgrade ~2 days ago (rebuilt zhone and such). Both TangoGPS and 'fsoraw -r GPS -- omgps' working. Slightly modified andy-tracking kernel (2.6.29-rc3). And if not, when it worked last time? Also if not - after trying to use it, check if you have rxerr messages in dmesg, and report it here. Something more interesting: Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] tangogps: page allocation failure. order:1, mode:0x20 Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] [c027ccac] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [c0083b40] (__alloc_pages_internal+0x3c0/0x3e8) ... Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] Normal: 503*4kB 0*8kB 1*16kB 2*32kB 1*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2156kB Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 22576 total pagecache pages Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 3198 pages in swap cache Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] Swap cache stats: add 211238, delete 208040, find 291533/320129 Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] Free swap = 676352kB Jul 27 02:09:36 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] Total swap = 714884kB Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 32768 pages of RAM Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 804 free pages Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 2675 reserved pages Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 1888 slab pages Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 13342 pages shared Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.425000] 3198 pages swap cached Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] tangogps: page allocation failure. order:1, mode:0x20 Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] [c027ccac] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [c0083b40] (__alloc_pages_internal+0x3c0/0x3e8) ... Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] Normal: 506*4kB 16*8kB 1*16kB 2*32kB 1*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2296kB Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 22515 total pagecache pages Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 3200 pages in swap cache Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] Swap cache stats: add 211240, delete 208040, find 291533/320130 Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] Free swap = 676352kB Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] Total swap = 714884kB Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 32768 pages of RAM Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 864 free pages Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 2675 reserved pages Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 1888 slab pages Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 13343 pages shared Jul 27 02:09:37 debian-gta02 kernel: [357940.455000] 3200 pages swap cached Jul 27 02:09:38 debian-gta02 kernel: [357941.785000] rxerr: port=1 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000d Jul 27 02:09:38 debian-gta02 kernel: [357941.955000] rxerr: port=1 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c Jul 27 02:11:33 debian-gta02 kernel: [358057.235000] rxerr: port=1 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c Jul 27 02:11:43 debian-gta02 kernel: [358067.04] rxerr: port=1 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c Jul 27 02:16:25 debian-gta02 kernel: [358349.69] rxerr: port=1 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c Jul 27 02:16:50 debian-gta02 kernel: [358374.245000] gta02_udc_command S3C2410_UDC_P_ENABLE Jul 27 02:16:51 debian-gta02 kernel: [358374.825000] g_ether gadget: full speed config #1: CDC Ethernet (ECM) Jul 27 02:16:52 debian-gta02 kernel: [358376.55] pcf50633 0-0073: usb curlim to 500 mA I think it is perfectly normal to get a few 'rxerr: port=1' messages when the GPS is turned off (although even after ~7 minutes?). But I'm worried about those 'page allocation failure' messages. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tango and the missing map tiles
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:14:22PM +0200, Christophe Badoit wrote: Le jeudi 23 juillet 2009 22:08:03, Ben Wong a écrit : # Modified by Ben Wong to work with BusyBox's wget. ^ I found this faster (but you need curl) : [cut] Only one instance of curl is executed, and it uses HTTP1.1 Keep Alive; it's slow to start, but fast once running. Yes, but then he might as well just install the real wget and use the original script. The whole point of BusyBox is to avoid installing tonnes of stuff. Anyway, it seems that we can rewrite the original script using the real wget such that it doesn't need awk and xargs: $ (cd /usr/local/share/maptiles/tile.openstreetmap.org \ find -size 0c -print | cut -c3- | \ wget -p -i - -B http://tile.openstreetmap.org/ -x -nH -U Firefox) Downloaded: 6 files, 30K in 0.05s (662 KB/s) Who wants to add support for ETag, If-None-Match: and extended attributes to wget? -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery not fully charging
Hi Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore. r...@om-gta02:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity 97 r...@om-gta02:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now 416 r...@om-gta02:~# ok, sort of consistent with mdbus You didn't mention the distro (or I missed it) sorry, om2009 (didnt think it would matter). I only have one battery (??) and USB was not connected, so it can't be HAL being confused about that. I'll take out the battery for an hour and see if that fixes the displayed icons. thanks! *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] openembedded tree is broke again :(
r...@roque:/opt/openmoko/shr-unstable$ bitbake -c build elmdentica NOTE: Handling BitBake files: / (5781/6575) [87 %] NOTE: Handling BitBake files: / (6575/6575) [100 %] NOTE: Parsing finished. 6228 cached, 64 parsed, 283 skipped, 0 masked. NOTE: build 200907272219: started OE Build Configuration: BB_VERSION= 1.8.13 METADATA_BRANCH = shr/import METADATA_REVISION = 6331e4bfb51c96a4dade2fca6286cc624862535d TARGET_ARCH = arm TARGET_OS = linux-gnueabi MACHINE = om-gta02 DISTRO= shr DISTRO_VERSION= -20090727 TARGET_FPU= soft NOTE: Resolving any missing task queue dependencies NOTE: Preparing runqueue NOTE: Executing runqueue NOTE: Running task 1907 of 1969 (ID: 3, /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/e17/elmdentica_svn.bb, do_unpack) NOTE: Running task 1908 of 1969 (ID: 15, /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/e17/elmdentica_svn.bb, do_distribute_sources) NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: started NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_unpack: started NOTE: Unpacking /opt/openmoko/downloads/._elmdentica.googlecode.com_.svn.trunk_129_.tar.gz to /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1/ NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: started NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_distribute_sources: started NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_unpack: completed NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: completed NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_distribute_sources: completed NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: completed NOTE: Running task 1909 of 1969 (ID: 4, /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/e17/elmdentica_svn.bb, do_patch) NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: started NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_patch: started NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_patch: completed NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: completed NOTE: Running task 1948 of 1969 (ID: 622, /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc_4.1.2.bb, do_compile) NOTE: package gcc-4.1.2: started NOTE: package gcc-4.1.2-r14: task do_compile: started NOTE: Running task 1949 of 1969 (ID: 5, /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/e17/elmdentica_svn.bb, do_configure) NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: started NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_configure: started ERROR: function do_compile failed ERROR: see log in /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-4.1.2-r14/temp/log.do_compile.16661 NOTE: Task failed: /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-4.1.2-r14/temp/log.do_compile.16661 NOTE: package gcc-4.1.2-r14: task do_compile: failed ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting NOTE: package gcc-4.1.2: failed ERROR: Build of /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc_4.1.2.bb do_compile failed ERROR: Task 622 (/opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc_4.1.2.bb, do_compile) failed NOTE: Waiting for 1 active tasks to finish NOTE: 1: /opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/e17/elmdentica_svn.bb, do_configure (16695) NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129-r1: task do_configure: completed NOTE: package elmdentica-0.6.0+svn129: completed NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 1947 tasks of which 1944 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc_4.1.2.bb' failed NOTE: build 200907272219: completed And then on gcc's log compile: (...) make[4]: `crtend.o' is up to date. make[4]: `crtbeginS.o' is up to date. make[4]: `crtendS.o' is up to date. make[4]: `crtbeginT.o' is up to date. make[4]: Leaving directory `/opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-4.1.2-r14/gcc-4.1.2/build.arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi.arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc' arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -mthumb-interwork -mno-thumb -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -mthumb-interwork -mno-thumb -isystem/opt/openmoko/shr-unstable/tmp/staging/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include -O2 -g -Os -DIN_GCC-W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -shared -nodefaultlibs -Wl,--soname=libgcc_s.so.1 -Wl,--version-script=libgcc/./libgcc.map -o ./libgcc_s.so.1.tmp libgcc/./_udivsi3_s.o libgcc/./_divsi3_s.o libgcc/./_umodsi3_s.o libgcc/./_modsi3_s.o libgcc/./_bb_init_func_s.o libgcc/./_call_via_rX_s.o libgcc/./_interwork_call_via_rX_s.o libgcc/./_lshrdi3_s.o libgcc/./_ashrdi3_s.o libgcc/./_ashldi3_s.o libgcc/./_negdf2_s.o libgcc/./_addsubdf3_s.o libgcc/./_muldivdf3_s.o libgcc/./_cmpdf2_s.o libgcc/./_unorddf2_s.o libgcc/./_fixdfsi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunsdfsi_s.o libgcc/./_truncdfsf2_s.o libgcc/./_negsf2_s.o libgcc/./_addsubsf3_s.o libgcc/./_muldivsf3_s.o libgcc/./_cmpsf2_s.o libgcc
Re: battery not fully charging
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 23:30, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore. r...@om-gta02:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity 97 r...@om-gta02:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now 416 r...@om-gta02:~# ok, sort of consistent with mdbus You didn't mention the distro (or I missed it) sorry, om2009 (didnt think it would matter). I only have one battery (??) and USB was not connected, so it can't be HAL being confused about that. I'll take out the battery for an hour and see if that fixes the displayed icons. thanks! *-pike It *is* HAL confused about that. It see USB as different battery, with capacity 0% all the time (no matter if it's connected or not). It also used to see APM emulation as third battery - it displayed 33% then. It's fixed in SHR, you can fix that by changing from HAL to Internal in battery meter settings (and after changing - reboot) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a script to find broken packages before they break you!
umm i didn't think to this issue.. anyway it should be simple, just add /usr/lib/* to the list of checked binaries.. i'll try it On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/27 Previdi Roberto previdi.robe...@gmail.com: hello list. I wrote this little script taking inspiration from the powerful gentoo command revdep-rebuild. It scans all the binary files in /usr/bin and shows the broken ones (the ones linking non existent library) Nice work! Presumably it only catches those that binaries are directly dependent on. If there are any that only other libraries are dependent upon, they won't be caught. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Hmmm...upon further testing I did notice a couple of other things that may be specific to my headset. Occasionally the key presses from my headset stop being picked up by intoneit looks like they are being sent to the phone because the screen will turn on, but intone doesn't respond. But then after a song change it sometimes comes back. Could it be related to the name of the song? I'll try to remember to write down the name of any of the songs that the buttons stop working on in the future... This may be my headset...but it seems like sometimes after a couple of the blips in the sound the song seems slightly distortedlike some of the instruments suddenly sound flat... Not sure what is causing thishas anyone else experienced it? Overall still certainly very usable though! Thanks again for the great program! -Dan Staley On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.comwrote: This is great! Thanks c_c! This is my main music player now! It works great with my bt headset! (Lubix NC1) http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=viewc_idx=c0005c_type=06str_block=l001 All my headset keypresses work and it seems to recover fine from the bluetooth hiccups that mplayer seems to have occasionally. Thanks again! -Dan Staley On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:51 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if it remembered from one run to the next to use BT headset... Other than that, it's great. :) It's doing well with my evil superfluous keypresses, and I love that it turns on BT and uinput automatically now. Saves me a lot of time when I try to listen to music. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] ffalarms led color
Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: jeremy jozwik schrieb: Hi, No one before asked for an option to change the color in ffalarms. So for you may change LED_COLOR in ffalarms.edc [1], recompile and replace the theme. [1] http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/data/ffalarms.edc?rev=27root=ffalarmsview=auto (this is 0.2.3 version) very cool, two questions though. when i opened up the file there are 4 values for color rather then the 3 i am used to #define LED_COLOR 0 255 0 255 along with that, how does one re-compile for the openmoko. is it on the wiki? You use the command: edje_cc ffalarms.edc ffalarms.edj installation explained in the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edje - jeremy every good edj file ships with build script so use build.sh for recompilation. about colors: the 4th value is the alpha channel there is none in ffalarms becouse it is not a stand alone theme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm...upon further testing I did notice a couple of other things that may be specific to my headset. Occasionally the key presses from my headset stop being picked up by intoneit looks like they are being sent to the phone because the screen will turn on, but intone doesn't respond. But then after a song change it sometimes comes back. Could it be related to the name of the song? I'll try to remember to write down the name of any of the songs that the buttons stop working on in the future... This may be my headset...but it seems like sometimes after a couple of the blips in the sound the song seems slightly distortedlike some of the instruments suddenly sound flat... Not sure what is causing thishas anyone else experienced it? Overall still certainly very usable though! Thanks again for the great program! -Dan Staley Ditto on #1 there. Sometimes buttons stop working, though screen unblanks when I hit them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
testing Litephone, new phone interface
Hi, I gave it a try and wrote an FSO based phone app in Qt. It's using the new PIM service, and since that's not completely stable yet, there are a few problems. I'm releasing this anyway, to help test FSO, and meanwhile get some feedback on the gui and general idea. Consider it an alpha release. There might be little bugs here and there. The basic idea on the GUI is that it is packed in one window, the various 'modules' (contacts, messages, dialer, etc) placed into tabs. No popup windows. Screenshot: http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone1.png The best way to use it on SHR is to stop ophoned, turn on the GSM service and register by hand, wait for some initialization in opimd, and then start the phone app. Technically you can just start the phone, and it will init GSM, but due to a bug in opimd, messages and contacts will start duplicating when you exit and run it again. The steps: - Install all the ipks from http://pvtrace.com/litephone/ (qt deps and phone app itself). - Run /etc/init.d/x-something stop - Move /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ophonekitd somewhere else (like your home dir). - Run the script http://pvtrace.com/litephone/gsm_register.sh (this will enable gsm and register, and will stay like that until you turn it off by hand) - Run /etc/init.d/x-something start - Get the style definition http://pvtrace.com/litephone/style_sheet.conf - Run 'phone style_sheet.conf' If you don't see your contacts and messages, try exiting and running again. opimd does some initialization upon GSM start that takes 1-2 minutes and currently there is no signal implemented that notifies about it. Making and receiving calls and messages should work without problems. You can add, edit and delete contacts, but deleting messages doesn't work because it's not implemented in opimd yet. Scrolling lists (contacts, etc) is done by click, not by drag (I hate drag-scrolling). Contacts have a smaller sparse list on the right that lets you scroll faster. The way composing new messages works is when you hit 'text' or 'reply' somewhere and a 'compose' tab is not created yet, it creates one with an appropriate recipient. If one is open already, it just adds to the list of recipients. So the way to send a message to multiple recipients is to keep going back to Contacts for example, and add them one by one. While it's not very intuitive, it's simple and it works :-) I hope you have fun Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, The basic idea on the GUI is that it is packed in one window, the various 'modules' (contacts, messages, dialer, etc) placed into tabs. No popup windows. Screenshot: http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone1.png Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community i like this basic idea. not having to wait for dialer to load. wait for messages to load. waiting for applications sucks on the freerunner so the less i have to load the better. i dont think i will be trying this one though, the install seems a bit too complex and being that its unstable to you eliminates my chances of using it. looks VERY promising though. cant wait to see how this develops ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
2009/7/28 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm The best way to use it on SHR is to stop ophoned, turn on the GSM service and register by hand, wait for some initialization in opimd, and then start the phone app. Technically you can just start the phone, and it will init GSM, but due to a bug in opimd, messages and contacts will start duplicating when you exit and run it again. I forgot. If you don't feel safe killing ophonekitd, you can run litephone together with ophonekitd, and it won't cause problems, except that on incoming calls and messages you will get pop ups from ophonekitd. It's ok to switch the window and for example pick up the call in litephone. Thanks to the nice FSO api, they should work together flawlessly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Oh wait...I think alot of the problems I had with the buttons going in and out was that if the screen is locked, the buttons from the bluetooth headset also dont go through. =( Is there a way to work around this? I'd like to have the screen locked in my pocket and just control it from my headset. -Dan On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:08 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm...upon further testing I did notice a couple of other things that may be specific to my headset. Occasionally the key presses from my headset stop being picked up by intoneit looks like they are being sent to the phone because the screen will turn on, but intone doesn't respond. But then after a song change it sometimes comes back. Could it be related to the name of the song? I'll try to remember to write down the name of any of the songs that the buttons stop working on in the future... This may be my headset...but it seems like sometimes after a couple of the blips in the sound the song seems slightly distortedlike some of the instruments suddenly sound flat... Not sure what is causing thishas anyone else experienced it? Overall still certainly very usable though! Thanks again for the great program! -Dan Staley Ditto on #1 there. Sometimes buttons stop working, though screen unblanks when I hit them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
Hi I gave it a try and wrote an FSO based phone app in Qt. http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone1.png Looks very nice ! The liter the better. Have you got more screensnaps ? What does it look like with a keyboard ? curious, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery not fully charging
Hi Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore. You didn't mention the distro (or I missed it) sorry, om2009 (didnt think it would matter). It *is* HAL confused about that. It's fixed in SHR, you can fix that by changing from HAL to Internal in battery meter settings (and after changing - reboot) that was it. in illume, topbar, wrench, advanced, battery meter, advanced, set from auto to internal, and reboot. pulling the battery and praying for 5 minutes didnt help. thanks! *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
om2009 - exceptional dbus.exceptions exception
Hi an interesting exception I noticed when playing with mdbus - when I interrupt a mdbus call with control-c, it throws a python exception at me saying (eventually) ImportError: no module named dbus.exceptions Now, that sounds .. wrong. It's trying to properly raise an exception, but it can't ? It also killed my phone at the time, and i had to pop the battery (again..), but retrying it now my phone survives. Is it a known issue, or not an issue at all ? I can't find anything about it. $2c, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Saturday 25 July 2009 04:36:26 pm Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:02:32PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009 06:56:22 pm Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP It charges fine while it is off, just not faster than 500 mA. When did this change, the last I knew, other wise when I bought it, the wiki said that it doesn't charge while it is off. -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, I gave it a try and wrote an FSO based phone app in Qt. It's using the new Finally a monolitic/one-shot-loading/fso phone app with my preferred toolkit :) I cannot test it before a couple of days, will report soon. I will be happy to contribute with coding/patches, did you setup a git/subversion/... source repository? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.61 Almost Stable ;-)
Hi, The Digital Pioneer wrote: It would be nice if it remembered from one run to the next to use BT headset... Will add that in the next version. Wasn't too sure about how well the bt streaming was working yet. Dan Staley wrote: Occasionally the key presses from my headset stop being picked up by intoneit looks like they are being sent to the phone because the screen will turn on, but intone doesn't respond Well, can you run intone from the terminal and see if it prints the keypress it receives? If it prints the keypress intone should respond to them. If it doesn't print - that could be because the keypresses are not getting through either because of :- * a locked screen * some other app gaining focus (like if you receive a message etc) Can you confirm this? The Digital Pioneer wrote: Intone only receives keypresses if it's focused. I'm not sure how the lock screen functionality is implemented. But - since the SHR guys seem to have added it - can you post an issue on the SHR page? I really don't want to try changing things behind FSO/SHR's back. The Digital Pioneer wrote: But my problem was Intone was actually just not seeing the keypresses even though it was focused and the screen was unlocked. As I requested above, can you run intone from the terminal and see if it prints the keypress it receives? Also - Cry Regarder suggested that I try the following method for streaming music to the bt headsets - since it uses less CPU. gst-launch filesrc location=file.mp3 ! decodebin \ ! audioconvert \ ! audioresample \ ! sbcenc \ ! a2dpsink device=00:0C:78:41:04:B9 Can someone confirm this (since his phone is out for a buzzfix). It would be nice if someone posts back the following * how much CPU this method uses with mp3/oga files (and their bitrates) * how much CPU mplayer uses with the same files streaming over bt Also can you send me the errors (if any) gstreamer gives if :- 1. The streaming fails 2. There is no bluetooth device paired 3. The bluetooth headset is switched off while gstreamer is streaming. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.61-Almost-Stable---%29-%28bug-fix-release%29-tp3283204p3337485.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.61 Almost Stable ;-)
I tried those commands, but I get: WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element sbcenc SBC seems to be part of bluez, but it's not in the latest SHR-unstable (or at least I couldn't find it). -Steven On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:56 PM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Also - Cry Regarder suggested that I try the following method for streaming music to the bt headsets - since it uses less CPU. gst-launch filesrc location=file.mp3 ! decodebin \ ! audioconvert \ ! audioresample \ ! sbcenc \ ! a2dpsink device=00:0C:78:41:04:B9 Can someone confirm this (since his phone is out for a buzzfix). It would be nice if someone posts back the following * how much CPU this method uses with mp3/oga files (and their bitrates) * how much CPU mplayer uses with the same files streaming over bt Also can you send me the errors (if any) gstreamer gives if :- 1. The streaming fails 2. There is no bluetooth device paired 3. The bluetooth headset is switched off while gstreamer is streaming. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. Hmmm... I think the solution depends on why you're shutting down your cell phone at night. To prevent calls from waking you? Try a cron job that changes your default ring style to silent (and resets it in the morning). To save electricity, and thus the earth from global climate change? I'd use a cron job that calls shutdown, but that first checks if your phone is off the hook (well, I guess we already know the Freerunner is off the hook). I'd probably also check if there had been any recent screen input. To save the battery in case you forgot to plug it in? A cron job would work to shut it down, but you could add a couple lines in the script to skip it if the battery is already charging. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
When did this change, the last I knew, other wise when I bought it, the wiki said that it doesn't charge while it is off. It always charged while off-just at 100MA, which takes fucking forever. So charging, but barely. I can confirm this from having a flat battery within the first day of using my freerunner (first shipment), and plugging it in to the charger to charge enough capacity to boot. Care to direct me to the wiki page that stated the incorrect info? (we can also check the hist on the page to see when/if it was changed). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.61 Almost Stable ;-)
Hi, Steven ** wrote: SBC seems to be part of bluez, but it's not in the latest SHR-unstable (or at least I couldn't find it). Yup. Seems like SHR-U doesn't have sbc. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.61-Almost-Stable---%29-%28bug-fix-release%29-tp3283204p3338930.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
