[SHR-t] Some tips needed
Hi folks, I am back on SHR since yesterday, and I need some tips to tweak it a bit. But firstly, kudos to SHR team for their work. I used SHR until September 2009, then QtMoko until December, then Android until yesterday. SHR was quite slow and needed some tweaking, but now -- testing branch 14 january 2010 -- everything works out of the box (GPS, wifi, phone, songs) and it's faster (even more if you put the new kernel without debug/preempt) and with nice volume controls while calling ! My questions (from most important to less one): - phone goes to sleep mode when tangogps is up and running. How could I prevent that ? IIRC, there was a way to lock a hardware resource isn't it ? - during a test call, my voice was a bit too loud. So I lowered the mic volume while calling and it was better, but I think this setting has not been saved. Is it normal ? - desktop scrolling is still slow (alas), what were the effects to disable or the theme to use to make it a bit faster ? - midori has huge scroll bars (why a horizontal one ?), is there a way to optimize the useful viewable area ? Or can you recommend any other browser maybe ? Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] Some tips needed
Dnia 2010-01-18, pon o godzinie 09:13 +0100, Xavier Cremaschi pisze: Hi folks, My questions (from most important to less one): - phone goes to sleep mode when tangogps is up and running. How could I prevent that ? IIRC, there was a way to lock a hardware resource isn't it ? fsoraw -r CPU,Display tangogps or just Display without CPU - during a test call, my voice was a bit too loud. So I lowered the mic volume while calling and it was better, but I think this setting has not been saved. Is it normal ? I don't know testing, but there was a while in unstable, when volume settings were saved only after reboot. So try to set the volume and reboot phone. - desktop scrolling is still slow (alas), what were the effects to disable or the theme to use to make it a bit faster ? Do you have gry theme? It's quite fast i think. Try neo theme. - midori has huge scroll bars (why a horizontal one ?), is there a way to optimize the useful viewable area ? Or can you recommend any other browser maybe ? Newest one :) http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4357081.html Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- jahckal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] Some tips needed
I don't have much time so a very quick response: *preventing suspend: I think fsoraw is what you want (take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources) *I don't think the sound settings are being saved atm *using 16bit and no shadows, changing framerate and using faster kernel (no debugging) *browser: haven't tried it yet, but it looks promissing: http://www.opkg.org/package_326.html On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: Hi folks, I am back on SHR since yesterday, and I need some tips to tweak it a bit. But firstly, kudos to SHR team for their work. I used SHR until September 2009, then QtMoko until December, then Android until yesterday. SHR was quite slow and needed some tweaking, but now -- testing branch 14 january 2010 -- everything works out of the box (GPS, wifi, phone, songs) and it's faster (even more if you put the new kernel without debug/preempt) and with nice volume controls while calling ! My questions (from most important to less one): - phone goes to sleep mode when tangogps is up and running. How could I prevent that ? IIRC, there was a way to lock a hardware resource isn't it ? - during a test call, my voice was a bit too loud. So I lowered the mic volume while calling and it was better, but I think this setting has not been saved. Is it normal ? - desktop scrolling is still slow (alas), what were the effects to disable or the theme to use to make it a bit faster ? - midori has huge scroll bars (why a horizontal one ?), is there a way to optimize the useful viewable area ? Or can you recommend any other browser maybe ? Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes: handset versus speakerphone versus headset, etc. For example, when I call some call centres, such as Volkswagen Canada, both parties sound quiet to the other, but when I access my Fido voice mail, the voice menus are so loud they sound like I am using speakerphone when I am only using the handset. This is an interesting observation indeed. I too suffer from the problem that some people complain that they can't hear me and others that my voice is too loud. I can't understand what can make the difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Encryption, Cameras and Games
Rashid wrote: Hi guys, I'm going to need a very safe smart phone for using it for investigative reporting. So I have some questions before I'm going to get a Freerunner: 1. Can you encrypt a LVM with luks like in Ubuntu? 2. Can you encrypt the whole phone / file-system? If not will it be possible in futere and is someone working on it? It runs linux, so it is able to do anything you can do with linux. (Within the limited processing power of the device.) You may have to set this up yourself though, I am not aware of anyone experimenting with encrypted filesystems. 3. Can you plug in an USB Cam (Like a Webcam) and use it to film (extremly important) on the crypted LVM? You can plug in any USB device that linux supports. I don't know if the device is fast enough to actually encrypt and store a video stream though. You might want to consider a really small PC like an acerONE. It even has a built-in webcam. 4. Mobile internet over GSM is working I think, or? Yes, this works fine. GPRS isn't very fast though. 5. Can you send the videostream / the videofile while you are recording via SSH (or something similar safe) to a server? The idea is, that when your phone is destroyed while filming you have at least the video until this moment. Probably not over GPRS - not enough bandwith for video! Wifi has enough bandwith, if you are within range of an access point. 6. With Hackable:1 Rev5 Chuck you can easily turn down GSM. Your location can't be found when its turned of, or? Can you force the GSM to connect to a random, far away GSM tower/connection-station to confuse the observers about your position? Turning off GSM means they can't find your position using the GSM network any more. They still know where you were, when you turned it off though. I am not sure you can force a connection to a faraway tower, and it certainly won't help you. The other towers still see the better signal strength, so your location is still known. We have serious problems in Europe with the freedom of the press so it would be great to use the freerunner with openmoko for helping freedom of the press. What part of Europe would that be? Definitely not western Europe. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Screen Calibration
Iain B. Findleton wrote: Anybody know how to verify screen calibration on SHR-U? I need to check that the X server is returning reasonably accurate pen touch locations. You can turn the X11 mouse cursor on, by changing /etc/X11/Xserver You can then see how well the cursor track your pen. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
Noel wrote: I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? You said that tango is very fast and very efficient at displaying your position. What's the use if the position is displayed on an empty map? Download all the maps you need once when you're online. Tangogps will work fine offline after that. (The same goes for navit - you have to give it a map to work with. Tangogps merely has the option of downloading maps when needed.) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] Some tips needed
Thanks Marcin and Yorick ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] Some tips needed
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Marcin and Yorick ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community soud setting are saved after reboot afaik... :P just try d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: New project openmokontrol
Juergen Schinker a écrit : David Wagner wrote: hab keen oh ne a écrit : You could extrakt the ipkg file and move the binary to /usr/bin. Otherwise you could install the debian package, which should soon be available in the Hackable:1 feeds. It will be available tomorrow at http://build.hackable1.org/debian/dists/wip/main/binary-armel/ (and for some other archs too) I tested it, it's awesome :D David i tested it as well - it's cool with extremetuxracer although i couldn't find openmokontrol in the repos... It's not in the rev5 repos but in the wip: http://build.hackable1.org/debian/dists/wip/main/binary-armel/openmokontrol_0.1-1_armel.deb Juergen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Touchscreen calibration with evdev
I have upgraded my Debian system on GTA02 and found, that the new udev is not compatible with current kernel in Debian. So I have compiled andy kernel and also upgraded the X.org server with new version. All works fine, but I have found, that new X is not using tslib, it loads simply evdev for touchscreen: (II) config/udev: Adding input device s3c2410 TouchScreen (/dev/input/event1) (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: always reports core events (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Device: /dev/input/event1 (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Found absolute axes (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Found x and y absolute axes (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Found absolute touchscreen (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Configuring as touchscreen (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWhee (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device s3c2410 TouchScreen (type: TOUCHSCREEN) (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: (accel) acceleration profile 0 (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: initialized for absolute axes. But the calibration is gone and I don't know, how to calibrate it. At least X and Y axis are reversed. I have tried this in xorg.conf, but it doesn't help (it seems the section was not recognized): Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Touchscreen Driver evdev Option Device /dev/input/event1 Option AbsoluteScreen 0 Option XAbsoluteAxisMap 1 Option YAbsoluteAxisMap 0 EndSection Does anybody know, how to calibrate the screen? Thank you Mike -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Touchscreen-calibration-with-evdev-tp4413295p4413295.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen calibration with evdev
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 04:08:51AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote: I have upgraded my Debian system on GTA02 and found, that the new udev is not compatible with current kernel in Debian. So I have compiled andy kernel and also upgraded the X.org server with new version. All works fine, but I have found, that new X is not using tslib, it loads simply evdev for touchscreen: (II) config/udev: Adding input device s3c2410 TouchScreen (/dev/input/event1) (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: always reports core events (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Device: /dev/input/event1 (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Found absolute axes (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Found x and y absolute axes (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Found absolute touchscreen (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: Configuring as touchscreen (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWhee (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device s3c2410 TouchScreen (type: TOUCHSCREEN) (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) s3c2410 TouchScreen: (accel) acceleration profile 0 (II) s3c2410 TouchScreen: initialized for absolute axes. But the calibration is gone and I don't know, how to calibrate it. At least X and Y axis are reversed. I have tried this in xorg.conf, but it doesn't help (it seems the section was not recognized): Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Touchscreen Driver evdev Option Device /dev/input/event1 Option AbsoluteScreen 0 Option XAbsoluteAxisMap 1 Option YAbsoluteAxisMap 0 EndSection Does anybody know, how to calibrate the screen? Thank you Mike We (SHR) are using this (maybe not optimal but works) http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/shr/89xTs_Calibrate Cheers -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Encryption, Cameras and Games
On Monday 18 January 2010, Helge Hafting wrote: Rashid wrote: Hi guys, I'm going to need a very safe smart phone for using it for investigative reporting. So I have some questions before I'm going to get a Freerunner: 3. Can you plug in an USB Cam (Like a Webcam) and use it to film (extremly important) on the crypted LVM? You can plug in any USB device that linux supports. I don't know if the device is fast enough to actually encrypt and store a video stream though. You might want to consider a really small PC like an acerONE. It even has a built-in webcam. There is a further limitation - the port is usb1.1 while many modern webcams require usb2 bandwidth because they don't compress the video stream. We have serious problems in Europe with the freedom of the press so it would be great to use the freerunner with openmoko for helping freedom of the press. What part of Europe would that be? Definitely not western Europe. There are certainly more dangerous places to be a journalist, but the National Union of Journalists considers the situation in the UK at the moment fairly serious[0]. The International Federation of Journalists agree, but say the problem is Europe-wide[1]. Stop and search powers under Section 44 or the Terrorism Act, which allows searches without suspicion of wrongdoing, are widely used against both professional and amateur photographers[2], and are to continue[3] even though the European Court of Human Rights recently found it incompatible with European human rights laws[4]. [0] http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=910 [1] http://www.ifj.org/en/articles/efj-supports-nuj-campaign-against- terrorising-journalists-in-the-uk [2] http://photographernotaterrorist.org/ [3] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/14/only_obeying_orders/ [4]http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?action=htmldocumentId=860909portal=hbkmsource=externalbydocnumber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
on lot of phone you could set up at least the loudness for the ear on your phone (home- and mobilephones).. may it's because of this diffrent.. i've got also the problem that peoble most didn't hear me.. other times, the settings are good.. Brolin: could you send me/us the state-file with a little description, where it is and which value must be set? :) thanks in advance --- Timo schrieb am Montag 18 Januar 2010: Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes: handset versus speakerphone versus headset, etc. For example, when I call some call centres, such as Volkswagen Canada, both parties sound quiet to the other, but when I access my Fido voice mail, the voice menus are so loud they sound like I am using speakerphone when I am only using the handset. This is an interesting observation indeed. I too suffer from the problem that some people complain that they can't hear me and others that my voice is too loud. I can't understand what can make the difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
movie playback on FR
My panasonic DMC-TZ15 takes some nice 640x480/ffmpegjpeg/30fps movies as .MOV files that I would like to have on the FR - but of course they play well on a desktop but are unplayable using mplayer (too much bandwidth) on the FR. So, what are the best settings to play something like this and how to convert the files? (320x240, convert using mplayer/ffmpeg/transcode/or what?). Is it possible to keep 640x480 and tweak other parameters? This is actually the first time I can remember trying to play a movie on the FR in 18 months I have had it :) BillK -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen calibration with evdev
Great, it works, than you very much Díky Mike We (SHR) are using this (maybe not optimal but works) http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/shr/89xTs_Calibrate Cheers -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Touchscreen-calibration-with-evdev-tp4413295p4413694.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
Denis Johnson wrote: do I need to fiddle with teh gsmhandset.state file manually or is there a better way ? I have a GTA02 A05 with buzzfix. Anyone have a same setup and would care to share their state file(s) You can install qalsamixer under settings-software packages if it helps. I dont have buzzfix so cant help more. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: With mplayer from debian unstable videos created with ffmpeg2theora -x 320 -y 240 --videoquality 3 --speedlevel 2 --audioquality 3 --samplerate 22050 do not play smoothly even with -nosound. Same here. I think my video had lower bitrate and fps, i appended -V 300 -F 15 and it plays ok now. Maybe my test ogv had different audio codec (accidentally deleted it). IIRC debian mplayer uses floating point implementation for decoding ogg so it's crappy. But after compiling with integer only ogg decoder it should be ok. I'll have to try it. I am using andy-tracking a3587e4ed77974ad with DEBUG and PREEMPT disabled with Xorg and xserver-xorg-video-fbdev -- are you perhaps using xserver-xorg-video-glamo instead? No, for sure it was fbdev. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Radek Polak wrote: Radek Polak wrote: Here are mine numbers on QtMoko: kernel size: old: 1 833 952 new: 1 660 364 boot time old: 1min 58s new: 1min 30s Btw if someone wants to try here is new kernel with modules: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/experimental/ Installed the kernel, and the modules. It did not work. Well, X came up and was nice and snappy, but the phone never connected to the GSM network. I tried shr-settings, and GSM could not be turned on! I tried booting several times, I tried restarting various fso daemons that seemed phone-related. Nothing helped. In the end, I flashed the latest shr-unstable kernel, booted, and got a GSM connection just fine. (I use shr-unstable of today.) Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Monday 18 January 2010 16:52:11 Helge Hafting wrote: Installed the kernel, and the modules. It did not work. Well, X came up and was nice and snappy, but the phone never connected to the GSM network. I tried shr-settings, and GSM could not be turned on! I tried booting several times, I tried restarting various fso daemons that seemed phone-related. Nothing helped. In the end, I flashed the latest shr-unstable kernel, booted, and got a GSM connection just fine. (I use shr-unstable of today.) Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. I don't know what is causing gsm to not register, but it's not kernel, for sure. Sometimes it registers for me and sometimes it doesn't, with both standard shr kernel and stripped kernel. It seems registration is more frequent with standard kernel. Might it be for worse performance? (some daemon which starts before another one with stripped kernel, for example) For me, it seems if you let FR boot with no iteration, it almost never register. If you do things (f.e. open an applicaiotn) just when illume desktop appears on display, it's more probable to obtain a registration. Just my experience... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 04:20:20PM +0100, Radek Polak wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: With mplayer from debian unstable videos created with ffmpeg2theora -x 320 -y 240 --videoquality 3 --speedlevel 2 --audioquality 3 --samplerate 22050 do not play smoothly even with -nosound. Same here. I think my video had lower bitrate and fps, i appended -V 300 -F 15 and it plays ok now. Maybe my test ogv had different audio codec (accidentally deleted it). IIRC debian mplayer uses floating point implementation for decoding ogg so it's crappy. But after compiling with integer only ogg decoder it should be ok. I'll have to try it. It should be fixed once mplayer package gets updated in the debian repository: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/mplayer.git;a=commit;h=8fcfbe13ebdb72868c090b0d7051771aaa6fbb60 Do you want me to put an updated package into pkg-fso? -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Monday 18 January 2010 17:13:42 David Garabana Barro wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 16:52:11 Helge Hafting wrote: Installed the kernel, and the modules. It did not work. Well, X came up and was nice and snappy, but the phone never connected to the GSM network. I tried shr-settings, and GSM could not be turned on! I tried booting several times, I tried restarting various fso daemons that seemed phone-related. Nothing helped. In the end, I flashed the latest shr-unstable kernel, booted, and got a GSM connection just fine. (I use shr-unstable of today.) Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. I don't know what is causing gsm to not register, but it's not kernel, for sure. Sometimes it registers for me and sometimes it doesn't, with both standard shr kernel and stripped kernel. It seems registration is more frequent with standard kernel. Might it be for worse performance? (some daemon which starts before another one with stripped kernel, for example) For me, it seems if you let FR boot with no iteration, it almost never register. If you do things (f.e. open an applicaiotn) just when illume desktop appears on display, it's more probable to obtain a registration. Just my experience... And sometimes, but only sometimes, when not registered on boot, I can force registration simply by rebooting libphoneui from shr-settings Sometimes it doesn't matter what daemon you reboot. It doesn't register :( signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
It did not work. Well, X came up and was nice and snappy, but the phone never connected to the GSM network. I tried shr-settings, and GSM could not be turned on! I tried booting several times, I tried restarting various fso daemons that seemed phone-related. Nothing helped. In the end, I flashed the latest shr-unstable kernel, booted, and got a GSM connection just fine. (I use shr-unstable of today.) Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. I had the same behaviour with my FR: GSM was only availlable a very few times booting the experimental kernel. No Problems acured with the latest shr-u kernel, however. My last try was to use QI unstead of u-boot, and GSM got connected, I will try another reboot an report if it still works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes: ffmpeg2theora -x 320 -y 240 --videoquality 3 --speedlevel 2 --audioquality 3 --samplerate 22050 Same here. I think my video had lower bitrate and fps, i appended -V 300 -F 15 After this vmstat 10 shows: procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa 1 0 1848 3644 7808 6767200 2 0 323 316 69 4 27 0 1 0 1848 3644 7808 6767200 0 0 323 315 71 5 24 0 2 0 1848 3484 7816 6767200 0 2 326 323 75 4 21 0 1 0 1848 3616 7824 6767200 0 2 336 323 79 4 17 0 1 0 1848 3616 7824 6767200 0 0 324 319 71 4 25 0 2 0 1848 3616 7824 6767200 0 0 324 313 69 4 27 0 2 0 1848 3616 7824 6767200 0 0 323 314 72 4 24 0 0 0 1848 11864 7824 6752000 0 0 354 320 56 5 40 0 and with -nosound: procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa 1 0 1864 2840 7816 6910800 0 0 505 371 66 3 31 0 2 0 1864 2840 7816 6910800 0 0 302 313 64 1 35 0 2 0 1864 2840 7816 6910800 0 0 302 315 66 1 34 0 2 0 1864 2840 7816 6910800 0 0 302 321 65 1 33 0 2 0 1864 2804 7832 6910800 0 3 305 330 68 3 30 0 1 0 1864 2812 7832 6910800 0 0 302 322 64 1 35 0 1 0 1864 2812 7832 6910800 0 0 310 318 66 2 33 0 1 0 1864 2812 7832 6910800 0 0 302 318 54 1 45 0 1 0 1864 2812 7832 6910800 0 0 302 324 53 1 45 0 0 0 1864 2812 7832 6910800 0 0 302 317 52 1 47 0 0 0 1864 2812 7832 6910800 0 0 302 322 55 1 45 0 Do you get roughly same id (idle) and cs (context switch) readings? -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to update TangoGPS maps?
Thanks guys, but the problem is that Yaouh is packaged in an .ipk package, and QtMoko is based on Debian. AFAIK, ipk couldn't be installed on Debian, and Yaouh is not available in .deb packages... :( Sgou -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it team member* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to update TangoGPS maps?
you can simply do dpkg -i foo.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume2 Screenshot ???
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: That was it! works under shr... it is quite awesome, some rough edges of course, but still... the debian users are gonna love it! wonder if that craptastic keyboard crash is still present... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
after today's update of libphone-ui*, the gui of contacts, dialer, messages and pin dialog looks ok. thanks to whoever is responsible. so i used the not so recently posted script [1] to import my contacts from an vcf file into opimd -- but after that, contacts crashes immediately without logging any error whatsoever. is there any way to make contacts (or any other shr/phoneui app) more verbose? [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg56143.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
And sometimes, but only sometimes, when not registered on boot, I can force registration simply by rebooting libphoneui from shr-settings Sometimes it doesn't matter what daemon you reboot. It doesn't register :( I just managed to force the registering by giving the FR sth. to work and then restart phonefsod. So it seems that there is really a timing problem, which would explain why the problem occurs more often with the faster kernel... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using FSO to controll secondary phone?
* Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com [17.01.2010 23:24]: Frederik Sdun frederik.s...@googlemail.com writes: * joa...@verona.se joa...@verona.se [17.01.2010 07:45]: Would it be possible to attach a secondary phone over BT to the Freerunner and controll it with FSO, the same way as the inbuilt phone device? I think over bluetooth is not possible. But if you can establish a network connection you can use gabriel[1[, which should be in the SHR repo since yesterday. Why not bluetooth? Many cellphones expose AT interface over bluetooth, with rfcomm channel created one can start another instance of ogsmd to treat it like a single-line modem. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com Yes, I always think about the layers above FSO. If you expose the modem via bluetooth this should be possible *adding to the FSO wiki* -- IRC: playya @ Freenode, Gimpnet xmpp: pla...@draugr.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] Some tips needed
Yorick Moko wrote: *using 16bit and no shadows, changing framerate and using faster kernel i have read (somewhere) that X11-16 should be used any more. have issues been fixed, or does this advice still stand? sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
Am Montag 18 Januar 2010 18:53:53 schrieb arne anka: after today's update of libphone-ui*, the gui of contacts, dialer, messages and pin dialog looks ok. thanks to whoever is responsible. so i used the not so recently posted script [1] to import my contacts from an vcf file into opimd -- but after that, contacts crashes immediately without logging any error whatsoever. is there any way to make contacts (or any other shr/phoneui app) more verbose? in /etc/phoneuid.conf set log_level to DEBUG -- Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:53:53PM +0100, arne anka wrote: after today's update of libphone-ui*, the gui of contacts, dialer, messages and pin dialog looks ok. thanks to whoever is responsible. np :) so i used the not so recently posted script [1] to import my contacts from an vcf file into opimd -- but after that, contacts crashes immediately without logging any error whatsoever. is there any way to make contacts (or any other shr/phoneui app) more verbose? Can you check what is actually crashing? The framework? phoneuid? I will update the framework later. There were some changes in opimd since the last Debian package. -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
in /etc/phoneuid.conf set log_level to DEBUG that has been my first thought -- no dice. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Building QtMoko failed
Hi, perfect Radek, it's working like a charm now I will annotate wiki and send you my translation within the week Regards, Yann Yann SLADEK wrote: ok, thanks Radek, it's building now. But, despite following what has been written into the wiki (adding '-languages fr_FR*' *into configure-common file or '--add-language fr_FR' to configure command after creating the right folder)* *, I have no .ts file created. You will probably need to run qbuild lupdate in qtmoko dir. It's quite nice descibed in the docs: /home/radek/qte/qtmoko/doc/html/syscust-internat.html Hope it helps Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
Can you check what is actually crashing? The framework? phoneuid? I will update the framework later. There were some changes in opimd since the last Debian package. actually, it really seems to be only the contacts app itself. messages and dialer come up fine, but once i hit in dialer the button to open contacts (to select a number), even the dialer crashes. phoneuid log and phonefsod log are both silent about that, although set to DEBUG (and since today's update of fso-config-gta02 the frameworkd log stays empty. not sure if coincidence or causation, though). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 08:51:25PM +0100, arne anka wrote: Can you check what is actually crashing? The framework? phoneuid? I will update the framework later. There were some changes in opimd since the last Debian package. actually, it really seems to be only the contacts app itself. messages and dialer come up fine, but once i hit in dialer the button to open contacts (to select a number), even the dialer crashes. Can you install gdb and check for the segfault reason? shh freerunner $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 $ gdb phoneuid # run # bt You should install libphoneui-shr-dbg and libphoneui0-dbg before, though. phoneuid log and phonefsod log are both silent about that, although set to DEBUG (and since today's update of fso-config-gta02 the frameworkd log stays empty. not sure if coincidence or causation, though). Ah I may have forgotten to switch default logging back to file. Can you check your frameworkd's config? -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Building QtMoko failed
Btw Radek, which files should I send ? ts files or qm files ? Regards, Yann Yann SLADEK wrote: ok, thanks Radek, it's building now. But, despite following what has been written into the wiki (adding '-languages fr_FR*' *into configure-common file or '--add-language fr_FR' to configure command after creating the right folder)* *, I have no .ts file created. You will probably need to run qbuild lupdate in qtmoko dir. It's quite nice descibed in the docs: /home/radek/qte/qtmoko/doc/html/syscust-internat.html Hope it helps Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
Sebastian Reichel wrote: It should be fixed once mplayer package gets updated in the debian repository: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/mplayer.git;a=commit;h=8fcfbe13ebdb 72868c090b0d7051771aaa6fbb60 Nice! Do you want me to put an updated package into pkg-fso? I am still using self-compiled glamo-based mplayer in QtMoko, but it might be useful for other users. If it's not diffucult to add such package it would be nice. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: and with -nosound: procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa 1 0 1864 2840 7816 6910800 0 0 505 371 66 3 31 0 2 0 1864 2840 7816 6910800 0 0 Do you get roughly same id (idle) and cs (context switch) readings? I am now on linux 2.6.32 so cant test it now. But i think that the playback performance was with nodebug config very similar. I can test later when i install back 2.6.29. Meanwhile here are 2.6.32 numbers with -nosound: neo:~# vmstat 10 procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa 1 0 0 7860 0 7669200 0 0 214 17 5 1 94 0 1 0 0 2148 0 7669200 0 0 326 76 61 2 37 0 1 0 0 2064 0 7669200 0 0 328 78 66 0 33 0 1 0 0 1952 0 7669200 0 0 325 83 68 0 32 0 1 0 0 1952 0 7669200 0 0 321 78 67 0 33 0 1 0 0 1924 0 7669200 0 0 323 83 67 0 33 0 1 0 0 1952 0 7669200 0 0 322 81 69 0 31 0 1 0 0 1952 0 7669200 0 0 325 78 69 0 31 0 1 0 0 1952 0 7669200 0 0 342 82 74 0 26 0 0 0 0 1952 0 7669200 0 0 341 77 72 0 28 0 0 0 0 1924 0 7669200 0 0 331 83 74 0 26 0 Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/fso] how to enable wlan again?
2010/1/18 Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: check /proc/config.gz to see whats been done. Thanks: debian-gta02:/usr/bin# zcat /proc/config.gz | grep AR6 CONFIG_AR6000_WLAN=y # CONFIG_AR6000_WLAN_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_AR6000_WLAN_RESET is not set Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen calibration with evdev
2010/1/18 Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com Great, it works, than you very much Díky Mike We (SHR) are using this (maybe not optimal but works) http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/shr/89xTs_Calibrate Cheers -- uin:136542059 jid:martin.ja...@gmail.comjid%3amartin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.frsip%3ajama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Touchscreen-calibration-with-evdev-tp4413295p4413694.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community How can I make the change permanent? -- A.A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:19:53PM +0100, Radek Polak wrote: Sebastian Reichel wrote: It should be fixed once mplayer package gets updated in the debian repository: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/mplayer.git;a=commit;h=8fcfbe13ebdb 72868c090b0d7051771aaa6fbb60 Nice! Do you want me to put an updated package into pkg-fso? I am still using self-compiled glamo-based mplayer in QtMoko, but it might be useful for other users. If it's not diffucult to add such package it would be nice. Regards Radek ok, added on my queue. -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
2010/1/14 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: I've just installed Timo's kernel from http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_oma-andy-2a04ce8203d7d0f1.bin, One more possible issue with this kernel. The boot messages always say [21474539.53] pcf50633-rtc pcf50633-rtc: hctosys: unable to read the hardware clock and my FR's date and time is always back to 1st Jan 1970 after a reboot. It looks to me as though the RTC device isn't working: debian-gta02:~# hwclock --show RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument ioctl() to /dev/rtc0 to read the time failed. debian-gta02:~# hwclock --systohc RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument ioctl() to /dev/rtc0 to read the time failed. debian-gta02:~# lsmod Module Size Used by ipv6 268504 14 debian-gta02:~# find /lib/modules/2.6.29-GTA02_oma-andy-mokodev/ -iname *rtc* /lib/modules/2.6.29-GTA02_oma-andy-mokodev/kernel/drivers/rtc /lib/modules/2.6.29-GTA02_oma-andy-mokodev/kernel/drivers/rtc/rtc-s3c.ko debian-gta02:~# modprobe rtc-s3c debian-gta02:~# lsmod Module Size Used by rtc_s3c 8460 0 ipv6 268504 14 debian-gta02:~# hwclock --systohc RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument ioctl() to /dev/rtc0 to read the time failed. debian-gta02:~# hwclock --show RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument ioctl() to /dev/rtc0 to read the time failed. debian-gta02:~# ls -l /dev/rtc0 crw-rw 1 root root 254, 0 Jan 1 1970 /dev/rtc0 Any ideas? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen calibration with evdev
My Xorg configuration, works without errors: # Xorg confiugration for an Openmoko FreeRunner #Section InputDevice #IdentifierConfigured Touchscreen #Drivertslib #OptionCorePointertrue #OptionSendCoreEventstrue #OptionProtocolAuto #OptionWidth480 #OptionHeight640 #EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierConfigured Touchscreen Driverevdev OptionDevice/dev/input/event1 OptionAbsoluteScreen0 OptionXAbsoluteAxisMap1 OptionYAbsoluteAxisMap0 OptionWidth480 OptionHeight640 EndSection Section Device IdentifierConfigured Video Device Driverfbdev EndSection And make a script with (1) named /root/.calibrate, and add to .xsession as: #!/bin/sh /root/.calibrate trayer --edge top openmoko-panel-plugin zhone exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar no -use_cursor no (1) http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/shr/89xTs_Calibrate I deleted xserver-xorg-input-tslib. But I have problems with the xserver-xorg-video-glamo. . -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 “No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior” José Figueres Ferrer, 1952. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: You can install qalsamixer under settings-software packages if it helps. I dont have buzzfix so cant help more. Thanks, I installed that however it is difficult to tie together all those sliders to the various control numbers in the state file. I vaguely remember a thread here some time back discussing those controls and values and that the wiki instructions were not correct. I might try and search teh archive and make some sense of it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: [21474539.53] pcf50633-rtc pcf50633-rtc: hctosys: unable to read the hardware clock Can't find this from logs here. Does cat /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/since_epoch fail also? Can you reboot a few times and see if you see the bug every time or just sometimes? debian-gta02:~# modprobe rtc-s3c This is wrong module anyway. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com writes: I am still using self-compiled glamo-based mplayer in QtMoko, but it might be useful for other users. If it's not diffucult to add such package it would be nice. Regards Radek ok, added on my queue. Is glamo-based mplayer really something that should be packaged? I thought it direcly accessed the hardware and could thus mess things up pretty badly with X? Or is this something else than the very first mplayer glamo patches? (I'd really like to be positively surprised here!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: and my FR's date and time is always back to 1st Jan 1970 after a reboot. It looks to me as though the RTC device isn't working: debian-gta02:~# hwclock --show RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument snip I my case on QtMoko V16B and this kernel I get: hwclock --show Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. Use the --debug option to see the details of our search for an access method. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
2010/1/18 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: [21474539.53] pcf50633-rtc pcf50633-rtc: hctosys: unable to read the hardware clock Can't find this from logs here. Does cat /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/since_epoch fail also? Yes: debian-gta02:~# cat /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/since_epoch cat: /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/since_epoch: Invalid argument Can you reboot a few times and see if you see the bug every time or just sometimes? I'm certain it's happened every time that I've rebooted (which is 2 or 3 times per day, because of playing with zhone code). It's very noticeable, because it's the first (and in fact only) message when the backlight first comes on. debian-gta02:~# modprobe rtc-s3c This is wrong module anyway. Fair enough, I was just stabbing in the dark there. Thanks for your reply! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
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Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
Vinzenz Hersche wrote: Brolin: could you send me/us the state-file with a little description, where it is and which value must be set? :) The state file is: /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state I use vim to edit the state file on my FreeRunner. “control.48” is the mic gain. Set the value to 3 (the maximum). After I changed this single value, people could hear me better, even when I hold the mouthpiece relatively far from my mouth. Note: I am still using QtMoko v14, so I do not know if the state file(s) have changed in subsequent releases. Please try this change and report your observed results. I used this post to learn which control to change: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-October/057319.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
Denis Johnson wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Radek Polakpson...@seznam.cz wrote: You can install qalsamixer under settings-software packages if it helps. I dont have buzzfix so cant help more. Thanks, I installed that however it is difficult to tie together all those sliders to the various control numbers in the state file. I vaguely remember a thread here some time back discussing those controls and values and that the wiki instructions were not correct. I might try and search teh archive and make some sense of it I think you mean this post: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-October/057319.html Please see my reply to Vinzenz Hersche’s post in this thread. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:24:40AM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com writes: I am still using self-compiled glamo-based mplayer in QtMoko, but it might be useful for other users. If it's not diffucult to add such package it would be nice. Regards Radek ok, added on my queue. Is glamo-based mplayer really something that should be packaged? I thought it direcly accessed the hardware and could thus mess things up pretty badly with X? Or is this something else than the very first mplayer glamo patches? (I'd really like to be positively surprised here!) I was talking about putting the tremor mplayer into pkg-fso. -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OT: gender-neutral English usage (was Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?)
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote:
No we dont have a neutral gender in Spanish, but the Spanish for 'his'
and 'her' is the same ('su') so we don't have that problem:
'his/her Freerunner' == 'su Freerunner'
Spanish is still patriarchal, though: plural nouns are masculine unless
all the members are female.
AFAIK, German has a neutral gender in addition to masculine and
feminine, but I know even less about German than Spanish.
As for English, I prefer 'their' rather than 'his/her'.
I prefer to preserve distinction between singular and plural forms,
which means using “he/his/him or she/hers/her” for singular and
“they/theirs/them” for plural.
I wonder how
this issue was solved in the past. Such a usual problem must have been
solved centuries ago in the English literature, no?
It was “solved” in a patriarchal style by using masculine terms as
gender-neutral terms, which I think is wrong even though I am male. See
http://people.mills.edu/spertus/Gender/pap/pap.html.
And yes, this is totally off-topic,
Hence the “OT: ” prefix in the Subject. Why would anyone complain about
off-topic subjects in a thread clearly marked as off-topic? (fail) If
you do not want to read off-topic discussions, avoid reading threads
clearly marked as such!
and the where-can-I-meet-a-female
topic is totally ridiculous and bad taste
Why? Please support your claim. My question was not simply “Where can
I meet a female?”, but “Where can I meet a female *companion with
similar interests and personality /in person/?*” Did you even read my
original post in this thread? Please understand I do not intend to be
harsh and/or belligerent. However, I find your reasoning/logic faulty.
and I think the list
administrator (if there is one) should do something about it.
Such as? Are you suggesting censorship of a list about a project to
free the cellular/mobile phone? If yes, I find that highly ironic.
Even if the list administrator changed or removed this thread, it would
be too late because this thread has already been copied to many
unofficial archives and members’s mailboxes.
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Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: I think you mean this post: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-October/057319.html Indeed that is the one I was referring to, thanks. I also found this one http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-December/058189.html Please see my reply to Vinzenz Hersche’s post in this thread. Yes thanks, although your suggestion of putting control 48 to max of 3 seems to contradict 48. The advice on the wiki is bad, and likely to lead to distortion. Keep 48 low unless you have 12 and 5 near maximum. do you happen to know if we need to restart QTExtended or will changes to the state file take immediate effect. I also wonder how the QTMoko settings, call options, call volume interacts with these state files as it does not modify them if you change one or both sliders. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Monday 18 January 2010, Bernd Prünster wrote: With latest updates on shr-u it just segfaults without any error message not even on command line. any ideas Midori does it too when trying to load a page. An underlying problem with webkit perhaps? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
Denis Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote:
I think you mean this post:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-October/057319.html
Indeed that is the one I was referring to, thanks. I also found this one
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-December/058189.html
Interesting, but I use only QtMoko, not SHR.
Please see my reply to Vinzenz Hersche’s post in this thread.
Yes thanks, although your suggestion of putting control 48 to max of 3
seems to contradict
48. The advice on the wiki is bad, and likely to lead to
distortion. Keep 48
low unless you have 12 and 5 near maximum.
I /do/ have 12 and 5 near maximum:
control.12 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Sidetone Playback Volume'
value 6
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Playback Volume'
value 110
}
do you happen to know if we need to restart QTExtended or will changes
to the state file take immediate effect.
IIRC, QtEI must be restarted.
I also wonder how the QTMoko settings, call options, call volume
interacts with these state files as it does not modify them if you
change one or both sliders.
I do not know.
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Re: elm_browser initial release
Hi, As does eve - with the error that it couldn't create a webview. Definitely a problem with webkit. Does anyone know where the development is takingplace on webkit-efl? The gitorious site hardly has any commits after Seop 09. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4417838.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
Hi, I'm using timo's .29 faster kernel. I had the gsm not registering with this kernel using fso-abyss. Somehow, in my case (though I've has #1024 and buzz fix applied) using gsm0710muxd always works. fso-abyss is very temperamental - but sometimes starts working all of a sudden. HTH -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-significant-speedups-coming-to-FreeRunner-tp4274107p4417866.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
