Re: [QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?
On 15 April 2010 07:24, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Margo, could you document the whole process, what did you install, what did you changed to make tangogps runsee gps, in http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Manual for others to find, too? Thanks! r Right now I've done this: # apt-get install libexif12 libcurl3-gnutls libgconf2-4 gpsd # sed -i 's/DEVICES=/DEVICES=\/dev\/ttySAC1/' /etc/default/gpsd # sed -i 's/START_DAEMON=false/START_DAEMON=true/' /etc/default/gpsd # wget http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.99.2-1_armel.deb-Openmoko -O tangogps_0.99.2-1_armel.deb # dpkg -i tangogps_0.99.2-1_armel.deb # reboot Then I changed the paths in /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh and /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweroff.sh to /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/regulator/regulator.7/gta02-pm-gps.0-RF_3V/power_on I'm using v20. I think the paths are different in v21. And if I want to use tangogps I click Turn on GPS in Devtools menu. The /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh script is not executed automatically when I run tangogps. Should it be? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v21
On 14 April 2010 10:07, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Yesterday i was working on qtmoko and was doing restarts very often. First attempt was always No network, second was usually ok, sometimes i needed 3rd attempt. For me it said No network every time. I tried restarting about 10 times. Then I flashed v20 - this one always registers to the GSM succesfully. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?
On 14 April 2010 01:12, Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Does a simple: cat /dev/ttySAC1 show NMEA output? If no, is your gps powered up? If yes, what are the contents of /etc/default/gpsd ? cat /dev/ttySAC1 show nothing. Yes, it seems gps is not powered up if I start tangoGPS. If I do echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/regulator/regulator.7/gta02-pm-gps.0-RF_3V/power_on then cat /dev/ttySAC1 shows: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 etc. I'll try if it works with tangoGPS if I go outside. But why it doesn't power up automatically? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS says echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron should power up the gps, but for me it is /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/regulator/regulator.7/gta02-pm-gps.0-RF_3V/power_on. Could that be a problem? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?
On 14 April 2010 10:53, Margo keegiv...@gmail.com wrote: cat /dev/ttySAC1 show nothing. Yes, it seems gps is not powered up if I start tangoGPS. If I do echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/regulator/regulator.7/gta02-pm-gps.0-RF_3V/power_on then cat /dev/ttySAC1 shows: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 etc. I'll try if it works with tangoGPS if I go outside. Yes, tangoGPS works now. On 14 April 2010 11:50, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: The sysfs paths sometimes change with kernel versions. There are two scripts in qtmoko which should have the correct paths: /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweroff.sh The path in /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh is /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on This file does exist and is 0. If I manually echo 1 it, and then cat it, it is still 0. Something automatically changes it back to 0. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?
On 14 April 2010 23:21, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: How about echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on cat /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on which is what omhacks does iirc? -Timo Yes, this way it works. I added the line echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on to /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh before the echo 1 line. But it still doesn't power on automatically when I start tangoGPS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Bug 1024
On 13 April 2010 22:18, Yann SLADEK yann.sla...@free.fr wrote: Hi list, for the past few weeks, I tried both QtMoko and SHR with my FR (#1024 fixed by myself) With SHR, modifying /etc/frameworkd.conf did the trick and I can use my FR for approx. 65-70h in a normal way (few calls, text, wifi just for fun,etc..) With QtMoko, I cannot go up to 20h, after modifying /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/Modem.conf Anyone has the same problem ? Something else has to be done ? I have #1024 fixed and I changed Active=never to Active=always in /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/Modem.conf The battery life is about 3 days. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?
Hi, How should I install tangoGPS on qtmoko? I did: # apt-get install libexif12 libcurl3-gnutls libgconf2-4 gpsd # sed -i 's/DEVICES=/DEVICES=\/dev\/ttySAC1/' /etc/default/gpsd # sed -i 's/START_DAEMON=false/START_DAEMON=true/' /etc/default/gpsd # wget http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.99.2-1_armel.deb-Openmoko -O tangogps_0.99.2-1_armel.deb # dpkg -i tangogps_0.99.2-1_armel.deb # reboot But tangoGPS can't get the fix. Did I miss something? Do I have to change something in tangoGPS settings? I'm using v20. I had the same problem with v18. Previously I was using the ghislain's installer images. These had tangoGPS installed by default and it was working fine there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?
Hi Margo, which version is your gpsd? (gpsd -V) From 2.92 onward the API changed and the next version of tangoGPS will handle this. In general you can simply downgrade gpsd to = 2.90 without loosing anything. Marcus It's 2.37 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to install tangoGPS?
Can you telnet or nc to localhost port 2947, i.e. either: telnet localhost 2947 or nc localhost 2947 and if this succeeds, type 'r' followed by enter. You should see somthing like this: ~$ telnet localhost 2947 Trying ::1... Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. r GPSD,R=1 $GPRMC,132008.000,A,4340.8841,N,00713.9172,E,3.60,221.79,271109,,,D*6B $GPRMC,132009.000,A,4340.8829,N,00713.9156,E,7.42,221.99,271109,,,D*68 . . . It only says: GPSD,R=1 If you have internet connection on your QtMoko, you can try the following too: in the config put in 88.191.100.245 as IP for the GPSD and hit the change button. You should get GPS data for the south of France. Yes, that shows me that i'm in France. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On 11 February 2010 20:47, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story). So if somebody wants to try, all information is on [1]. I have moved it to other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64. [1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 I can't install it on qtmoko: neo:~# apt-get install mcnavi Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: mcnavi: Depends: libecore-evas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libecore-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libedje-svn-05 (= 0.9.92.063) but it is not installable Depends: libevas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.4.0) but 1:4.3.2-1.1 is to be installed Depends: libgps18 (= 2.39) but it is not installable E: Broken packages ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On 12 February 2010 13:55, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Margo keegiv...@gmail.com writes: I can't install it on qtmoko: Mixing binary packages between distributions is generally a bad idea. In this case they probably use different package names and version numbers. Does qtmoko have E17? What are the names of the packages? There's a package named e16 in the repository. But no packages named libecore, libedje, libevas or libgps18 (but there is libgps17). libgcc1 is version 1:4.3.2-1.1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] No GSM network after buying new battery
On 4 February 2010 00:25, Margo keegiv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I bought a new GTA02 battery from the Pulster shop. If I replaced my old battery with the new one, my freerunner couldn't connect to the GSM network. The message No network stays on the homescreen and the touchscreen doesn't respond (The power button does). If I ssh to the phone and restart qpe, the spinning clock icon stays on the homescreen and the screen keeps flickering. The touchscreen now responds but still no GSM network and it doesn't show my SIM contacts. Everything works if I use the old battery. I checked with SHR testing too - no problem there with the new battery. So it seems to be QtMoko problem. It's a very strange problem and I don't know what to do or what log files to check. Has anyone else seen such thing? Or can someone who bought a battery from Pulster try if QtMoko works with it? Margo If I reinstalled the QtMoko (v16d) and used the QtBackup utility to restore my settings and files, then I still had the same problem (No network). But now I did clean install without restoring from backup and now everything seems to work. I rebooted once and still works. But it is still weird that replacing the battery can cause that kind of problems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
2010/1/19 omcomali@porcupinefactory.org: I know for sure that Estonian language has a gender-neutral pronoun. In exchange, it doesn't have any gender-specific pronouns, what I find strange, being used to Polish, in which you can't virtually say anything without being gender-specific. I am Estonian and yes we use the same word for both he and she. I think the same is in other finno-ugric languages too. And I can't see the need for gender-specific pronouns at all. 2010/1/15 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: Historically, yes, they and their are plural. But in real current (UK) English, they are being used more and more also as gender-independent singular. That might sound surprising, but it is the case. Regards, Neil So if someone says something about one certain person and you don't know who is he/she talking about and if that person is male or female, then you can ask who are they?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qspectemu - zx spectrum emulator port for Freerunner
2010/1/16 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz: You have to make binding for it. It's just like any other key (displayed on the top of the keyboard picture). Hope it helps Regards Radek Thanks, it helped. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues
2010/1/17 Joif fdvj...@vodafone.it: 7) issues with v16b: after a suspend the devtools do not work properly, it's impossible to turn on GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and also the bar at the bottom of the screen (with the menu and green arrow) doesn't work properly (clicking the green arrow open or close the menu instead of turning back, I have to click more time to turn back). the devtools and bar seem to work again after some attempts. thank you! Hi, I also have some problems with v16b version of qtmoko. 1) can't connect to wifi using the internet settings menu. First it said Wireless LAN unavailable and there was no WLAN detection option in the menu. After many reboots it said Wireless LAN offline (as it should) and it found my network but didn't connect (just said connecting for a while and then said not connected). It did work in some of the earlier versions of qtmoko. But I can connect to wifi from command line with ifconfig usb0 down ; iwconfig eth0 essid my_essid ; udhcpc eth0 (although the udhcpc command takes very long time to get the IP). 2) when trying to delete a configured connection from the internet settings menu, the phone hangs and I have to pull out the battery. 3) the battery level indicator acts weird. Sometimes it shows as it is charging even if the battery is full. Sometimes after restart it shows as the battery is full even if it is maybe only 10%. Sometimes when charging, it doesn't show that it is charging and cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status says not charging but actually it does charge because after some time the battery is full. 4) bluetooth doesn't work after suspend-resume. But I think the same issue was in all of the earlier versions too and it is an old and known bug. 5) on incoming call the phone only rings a few times and then just vibrates. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qspectemu - zx spectrum emulator port for Freerunner
2010/1/13 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz: Hi, i have just finished porting of spectemu[1] to Qt and Freerunner. It's now in QtMoko package feed if you want to try it or you can compile from sources for your favourite distro. Hi, How do I get the on-screen keyboard during a game? If I press somewhere it just gives me the options screen. Where do I have to click to get the keyboard? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
2010/1/4 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... The android phones (htc dream?) - none of which are fully functional on FSO/SHR (I think), and access through android to the underlying system is minimal. Flow - good but pricy, and unless I am looking at the design wrong, there is only one adapter/interface socket so you can have a phone, or a GSM device, but not both at the same time. Nokia n900 - probably the best choice at this time. What others are available NOW? BillK The Officer S101 seems interesting: http://www.road.de/en/handypcs/officer.html http://blog.hackable1.org/2009/08/running-hackable1-on-the-road-officer-s101.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Now I know, that I won't want to buy GTA03, even if I had enough money (ok ok, if only i was some millionaire i would buy it, but until i'm not, there are other possibilities to spend money :P). My using scenario of touch screen of Linux based phone needs resistive screen. Capacitive is not an option. But if the GTA03 would have a hardware keyboard and some joystick or trackball or something like this to use as a mouse, then the capacitive screen would not be a problem. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net wrote: Huh, thanks for your effort! This sounds nice and would totally fit my battery need for one day i guess. expecting some improvements later things would be even better, but apparently it already is well enough for my needs :) One more question: i guess you put the phone in suspend mode during the inactive time? furthermore i read some issues on audio quality lately. is the quality of audio playback acceptable with headset? Thanks for your help! Yes, my phone is on suspend when I don't use it. If I use my FR only for making calls (I only make a few calls every day), playing some games and maybe a little GPRS usage then the battery lasts about 50 hours. I can't say about the audio quality, I usually listen to punk rock music, so the audio quality is not important for me :D But there's one problem with the headset. I bought a 2.5-3.5 adapter for my headphones. And if I push it fully in then the music comes only from the right headphone. I have to pull it out a little for the music to come from both phones. If you want to use Freerunner with OM2008.12 as a usable phone and music player and internet device and gps device then there's so many things you have to install and configure before it's usable. It took me a lot of time to get everything installed and configured (and there's still some things to do). But now there's the Kustomizer ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ), maybe this can make life a little easier. I use my Freerunner currently as my everyday phone. But I always have my old Nokia with me. Just in case. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02
On 1/31/09, Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net wrote: So, again somebody is asking a question about usabilty. Please don't get me wrong, i actually browsed the mailing lists and wikis, but still there are some unsure things, and i'd like to have a bit more of a summarization. I'm interested in buying an openmoko Neo Freerunner, but i'd like to get to know some things before i will. I'm a student, so 300 €(even 249 €, Pulster ;) ) is an amount of money i can't spend every month, or w/o any effort. So i don't want to end up getting a Neo now, being unsatisfied and getting a gta03/other brand later this or next year. I'm not that deep into Linux, but i'm running Ubuntu reasonably well, so i'm not totally unfamiliar with linux. i know what svn/git is, and wouldnt be totally unable to build somethings from sources - although it's not an every day task here. So, here's my list of questions, i hope somebody will answer and clear them up a bit :) 1st) Battery Power sometimes i'm at university from 9am to 10pm 6 days a week. I'm often browsing mobile news pages with my phone when going to university, or having a chat (XMPP of course!), approx 40 minutes a day. In the meantime i'm listening to music. I got no actual watch, so my phone is my watch, means i often activate the background light to get to know the time. I'm sending like 1-5 messages a day, having a phone call now and then. Now and then i would like to access the web via wifi. So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university, would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery power after 10 hours? And, will there be a (software) fix (soon) for the issue, that the battery gets uncharged, even if plugged in, as soon as the battery is fully charged? (i got no problem charging the phone every night, but when it's fully charged at 2am, it would have been running 7 hours on battery power by my arrival at university, so the battery would be low sooner) 2) Calls As i'm sometimes having a phone call (huh, surprise), i would like to know, if the echo, and especially the buzzing issue will be fixed soon. I read, the echo was fixed in FSO/SHR already, but regarding the buzz i read the mailing list, but there i didnt feel i got a reliable answer(sorry for asking again). i'm not familiar with soldering iron, and i'm not willing to crack up another phone (already did once this way :) ). So, will there a fix of this buzzing soonish by default (a7, a8?) on the base of the often refered capacitor? (as i said, i'm not willing to pay twice, getting a gta03 later due to unfixed buzz problems, or replacing a damaged freerunner). Also, i'm not willing to pay 300€ for a phone that doesnt allow me to have a nice talk with my dad or gf on an at least acceptable level for the person on the other end (u know, my gf isn't that patient and insightfull with opensource software(issues) as i am, it took me weeks and shutting down icq completely to convince her to use xmpp :) ) 3) Software I got no problem with rudimentary software. Most important thing is Sending messages, Having a few Calls, Having GPS apps to improve Openstreetmap and such and browsing the web. I know the software is something being worked on, and apparently it improved a lot already. But: Do such basic features work already (like browsing phone book to make a call) acceptably reliable? I'm patient in handling problems and fiddling around a bit, wanting to have a succes in the end though. And: how sluggish is the software? i often read glamo slows the phone down pretty much. 4) GTA03? Or would u rather advise me to wait for GTA03? I really want to support Openmoko, and to be honest, as i heard first of openmoko like 2 years ago, i already wanted to have one. On the other hand, i'm sorry to say, that such fundamental bugs hold me back getting one yet. But according to the wiki, gta03 will have features like EDGE, a Cam, better battery and removed glamo (rather fast software feeling and video performance?) that sound very interesting. EGDE would be nice, but for me isn't necessary, and as Cam i could use my current phone. But shall i, at least, rather wait for a7, or a8 if i want a buzz fix by default? at the moment, this is, besides battery life, the issue that concerns me most. 5) Summarize Long story short, i don't want to get disappointed buying a neo. I mean, fancy features, software and such is nice to have, but if fundamental things won't work (acceptable), I and many others won't support Openmoko on the long term, means replacing the Neo with a later release of Openmoko in 1,2 or 3 years. and, as sean moss pultz wrote, John Doe won't see any advantage of getting an openmoko over other open (haha, at least on his point of view) phones like iPhone, and Android ones. Hopefully i'll get some constructive hints on my questions, and if i'd rather wait, or buy on the spur of
Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Margo Koppelmann margo.koppelm...@gmail.com wrote: I left my Freerunner charging for the knight. In the morning the battery was 94% charged. 8:00 - Battery is 94%. I start to listen to music (.ogg) with my FR. Screen is blanked during this. 8:40 - I stop listening to music. Battery is 86%. 17:00 - Battery is 68%. I start surfing the web using GPRS. 17:17 - I stop surfing the web. Battery is 64%. 18:35 - Battery is 54%. I start to listen to music (with blanked screen). 19:12 - I stop listening to music. Battery is 46%. 21:40 - Battery is 40%. I start surfing the web over wifi. During the day I've made a few phone calls, sent one sms, used the GPS with tangoGPS for about 10 minutes, played some games and checked regularly for the battery state. Right now I'm still using the wifi and I'm writing this mail on my FR. I'ts 22:51 and battery is 12% charged. Sorry, I forgot - I'm using OM2008.12 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net wrote: To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. Regards thomas I'm not sure what the FR uses, because 2008.12 doesn't display cell info (if I could see the cell info I could tell which one the phone is currently using (900 or 1800) because, when it uses 1800 there's number 8 in the cell name). But with other phones it's so that it changes when I move around. When 1800 MHz is available then it uses this and otherwise it uses 900 MHz. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote:
Hi Margo,
You can find out the cell id with the following chat script.
( asuming you use gsm0710muxd )
TIMEOUT 15
ATE0
ABORT BUSY
ABORT DELAYED
ABORT NO ANSWER
ABORT NO DIALTONE
ABORT VOICE
ABORT ERROR
ABORT RINGING
OK AT+CMGF=1
OK AT+CREG=2
OK AT+CREG?
OK AT+CREG=0
CLR_ABORT
ABORT OK
Save it to /tmp/chatscript and run
MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
--dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string |
awk -F '' '{ print $2 }')
# the above is 1 line
chat -s -S -V -v -f /tmp/chatscript ${MODEM} ${MODEM}
This will give you the cellid and LAC in hex.
Is this the same as the cell name?
Kind regards,
Ed
(First time it went only to Ed. I'm sending it again. Sorry.)
I think that is not the same. I don't know how it is called. But my
old nokia phone shows it on the home screen. And in the nokia's
settings menu it is called cell info display. In my network it is
usually the name of the place where the cell tower locates and some
number (and when it's 1800MHz there is a number 8).
But I found out how I can see what frequency the FR is currently using
(
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29
). I put AT%EM=2,1 in your chat script. Like this:
TIMEOUT 15
ATE0
ABORT BUSY
ABORT DELAYED
ABORT NO ANSWER
ABORT NO DIALTONE
ABORT VOICE
ABORT ERROR
ABORT RINGING
OK AT%EM=2,1
CLR_ABORT
ABORT OK
(I don't know if all these other lines are necessary).
It says my Current Channel Number is 49. So according to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29
my FR is currently using 900 MHz. I'll see if that changes if I go
somewhere else.
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Re: Free file hosting
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I know this subject is not too much OM related, but it can help me to distribute software for FR. I have some application for FR I would like to share, and it would be very useful to me. Someone know a place where is possible to host some files for free? (Max 10-50 Mb) I need to have a folder where I can put my files, and other people can access via browser without a registration. I had a little server with apache, but now... i think he need a bit to relax. Thanks you in advance Michele Renda Maybe this - http://www.getdropbox.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:26:56 -0500, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: 8 - I use gprson and gprsoff, one-liner scripts with the following contents, which can be invoked directly but less conveniently: #!/bin/sh #gprson mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogpsd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext internet3.voicestream.com x x #!/bin/sh #gprsoff mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogpsd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.DeactivateContext D'oh!! That's org.freesmartphone.ogsmd, not ogpsd... j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) I decided to try SHR also. I like it. There's no echo! But there are still some small problems, that are already mentioned in the other SHR thread. And a few problems that aren't mentioned: 1. If I activate the silent profile, the phone still rings. 2. After using the phone few hours and making some calls the phone doesn't ring anymore, it only vibrates. After rebooting it rings again. 3. At some point, the phonelog application just stopped working. It doesn't start. I didn't do anything and I didn't change anything, I just made a few phonecalls. When starting it, it gives me an error saying, that there's no error message. When starting it from command line, it says: TypeError: float() argument must be a string or a number I thought rebooting wil fix this, but it didn't. I tried to use gprs using Joel's instructions, but it gives me the error: ActivateContext failed: org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.NoChannel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [to moko developers] JOG DIAL
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:56 PM, bytestore bytest...@yandex.ru wrote: Can be to make jog dial instead of the button aux? It is convenient to thumb through upwards downwards in browsers and other. jog dial should be with function button example http://mnovosti.ru/images/old/0/6/img_385762_157.jpg You mean it like an idea for the next openmoko phone? Because I don't think it's possible to add that to the current model. But I also like that idea. I used to have Sony Ericsson P800 and it had the jog dial. It moved in two directions (up and down) and could be pushed in 3 different directions (forward, backward and in). So I can use most of the basic functions with only the jog dial. I can move around in menus, select numbers from phonebook and call them, answer calls and during calls I can adjust the volume. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and GPRS?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Steffen Winkler steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is it possible to use GPRS with the current FDOM image? If yes: Is there a GUI or do I have to adjust the config files by hand? If I've to adjust the config files by hand, is there a howto? (which files and what do I've to edit there) The current FDOM image - you mean FDOM 20081023? I don't know about that (because it had so many problems and bugs, that I flashed back to FDOM 20080927 right after trying 20081023), but in FDOM 20080927 it was easy to get GPRS working. I followed the instructions here - http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS . FDOM already has gsm0710muxd installed, so you have to start from where it says: The files needed are I just copied these files to my phone, changed mobile.o2.co.uk in chat-gprs file to my GPRS providers address and started the connection with ./pppd-start and later killed the connection with killall -15 pppd. Probably you can install some GUI too, but I didn't think it is nessecary. If you don't want to start it from command line, just make two .desktop files - one for pppd-start and one for killall -15 pppd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: next generation keyboard layout (illume)
That's the best layout I have seen. Thanks! But where's the '|'? On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, Here's a keyboard layout that I've created. The idea is to have a finger friendly keyboard good for normal text as well as terminal input. It needs some polish, but I'm sure you'll have cool ideas how to make it better, so I'm releasing now. Features: - doesn't use the dictionary (I've found the dict too slow for now, at least on SHR unstable) - not using the dictionary, it can utilize the top part of the keyboard app (see screenshots) - Fn key that switches between qwerty and a layout with some special characters, arrows and numbers - Enter and backspace keys (so no finger sliding needed) - Some keys are very thin and are on the edges of the screen. You use them by pressing the GTA's case near the screen (I take no responsibility if doing that damages your phone). - No capslock. - The very thin key on the left is tab, the very thin one on the right is Enter. - There is an up and down arrow to use for command line history. - You can switch to another layout by sliding your finger up on the keyboard (the keyboard selection button is covered by the keys). Screenshots: http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~makbet/keyboard1.png http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~makbet/keyboard2.png The layout file: http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~makbet/Keyboard-ng.kbd I've only tested this on SHR unstable. Have fun! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
When I was using FDOM 20080927 I changed control.4 (Speaker Playback Volume) in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state to 117 and I had no echo problem. Now I'm using 2008.12. I tried the same there, but it didn't help. Then I copied the gsmhandset.state from my old FDOM backup, but the echo was still there. Then I played with alsamixer during a call and I discovered, that if I change the control.5 (Mono Playback Volume) to 85, then the echo is gone! On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: 2009/1/16 Tha_Man jeroenb...@hotmail.com: Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Neil What version of H1 are you using? Rev 2 Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
There is also matchbox-stroke. It's in the openmoko repos. Just do: opkg install matchbox-stroke. I tried it on Om2008.12 and I like it. But the configuration file is incomplete, so it's impossible to enter many letters and characters. Even space was not configured, I configured it manually in the configuration file. So if someone would write a good configuration file for it, it should be usable. Matchbox-stroke puts a white space on the bottom of the screen. You don't need so much space to write a character. I think we could use the combination of handwriting and buttons. Maybe something like this - http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2745/strokemg2.png (I made it with GIMP). The @#$ button would display an onscreen keyboard to enter special characters (because I tink its hard to remember the strokes for all the characters) and the mode button would toggle between number mode, lower case mode and upper case mode. I tink this should be usable with fingers too. I would do this myself, but I can't code :( I think that if we had a good handwriting recognition program, all the keyboard problems would be solved. At least for me. Because I used to have Sony Ericsson P800 and I really liked it's handwriting recognition. I could hold the phone in my hand and write the characters with the same hand's thumb. I lost the stylus of my P800 long time ago and I wasn't missing it at all. On Debian I tried cellwriter too. It works really good, but it's only usable with stylus. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: haven't tried it, but there is also Strokerecog: https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/strokerecog/ On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: there's rosetta http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso. but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned. another attempt is cellwriter http://risujin.org/cellwriter which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have to try it come weekend. both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every single hand. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenVibe is out
Another good idea would be to use 2 freerunners and accelerometer - the faster you shake your freerunner in your hand the faster your girlfriend's freerunner vibrates. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:15 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: you can allways start x11vnc on neo and control it through vncclient :) 2008/12/16 Margo Koppelmann margo.koppelm...@gmail.com: But how do I use it? Do I have to first put a condom on my Freerunner? It would be cool, if it had a web interface so I could control it from my computer over WIFI. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenVibe i have make the first release of the OpenVibe: the first opensource vibrator :) enjoy :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenVibe is out
But how do I use it? Do I have to first put a condom on my Freerunner? It would be cool, if it had a web interface so I could control it from my computer over WIFI. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenVibe i have make the first release of the OpenVibe: the first opensource vibrator :) enjoy :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian][OM2008][FSO] Found an easy solution for universal right- and middle-click
input-events was not installed in Debian, so I had to apt-get install input-utils. And then chmod +r /dev/input/event1 (because I want to use it as normal user). And it works now. Thanks. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/11/23 Paul Fertser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's an ugly hack to do what you suggest: bash -c 'xmodmap -e pointer = 2 3 1; /root/bin/waitclick.sh; xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3' where /root/bin/waitclick.sh: #!/bin/sh input-events 1 21 | ( grep -q -m 1 released kill $$ ) I couldn't find a more elegant way but this one works for me. Thank you! I'll try this out. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
I'm using this image - http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2- and the stable mwester kernel. There is no terminal applicatsion, I can't enter passwords in the web browser, there's strange loud sound during calls when gprs is configured and sometimes it thinks it's plugged in when it actually isn't, but otherwise it's good. It's much more stable, than 4.4.1 was. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Alishams Hassam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using qtextended with mwester's kernel as a daily phone. Using even the unstable kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you have any problems, you can always switch to the stable kernel. http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should be fine :) On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:22 +, Russell Hay wrote: Hi list, I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org - but there have also been various discussions on the list about using mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as a 'day to day' handset. I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS Issues - Related to infamous 'buzz'?
I just had the same problem. I configured GPRS connection on QT Extended 4.4.2. And tried the connection - it worked without any problems. Then I disconnected from GPRS and about 10 minutes after that someone called me. When I answered the call a very loud sound started to play. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
Yes, I had already read your instructions, but I thought there's some easier way to simply enter the AT%SLEEP=2 command. But I tried your scripts now and it seems to work. Thanks. I'm using FDOM and gsm0710muxd was already installed. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Margo Koppelmann wrote: I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it? *assuming you're using 2008.08, 2008.09 or FDOM, and that you have gsm0710muxd installed and running* (this may be true by default on FDOM), my instructions and noddy little chat script at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso may be helpful. if you don't have gsm0710muxd installed (and qpe configured to use it), these instructions will be of no use. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
I have the same question: how do i turn off wifi? I'm using FDOM and after using wifi I do ifdown eth0 and then turn wifi off in Config - Settings and then I turn it off in Config - Services, but the little wifi icon in the top panel still remains and the battery empties about 3 times faster than usual. I have to restart my Freerunner everytime after I use wifi to get the normal state back. Is it really impossible to turn the wifi off? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used AT% SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it? On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't use my FR because of bug #1024. Few days ago i flashed qtopia 4.3.2 and patched it with Mwester work ( http://moko.mwester.net/brc.html); it was quite good but I don't like qtopia ... I started Reading http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024 and http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso. I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the experiment - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call (resume after suspend) and making call 100%. I don't know if it's the good work of FDOM guys or anything else, ... but after today intensive tests I start thinking of FR as a really usable phone !! For anyone interested in ... Hi everybody. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is FDOM unstable
I had the same problems with FDOM 20081023. I flashed back to FDOM 20080927. FDOM 20080927 is much more stable and I have been using it as my everyday phone for a few weeks now. On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko, moocow etc.) simply won't start. i read really good comments on it so i was expecting a better put up collection. Is this normal or am I the only one. I flashed 081023 image with latest 2008.9 kernel. happy hacking -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] - Where?
I got wifi working in FDOM using instructions in http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt And I'm using FDOM 20080927, not 20081023. The 20080927 version is much more stable. 2007.2 images can be downloaded here - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Om_2007.2_images_.28GTK.29 On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Pieter Colpaert [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I installed FDOM but I'm not quite satisfied: ~#ifup eth0 udhcpc (v1.9.1) started Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/99avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1 No lease, failing (I haven't been able to get an IP-address from my AP) and it's quite unstable overall... So I wanted to get back to 2007.2 which was installed when I bought it. BUT, I don't find any image anymore to flash it. Does anyone know where to download it? (I'm not such a big fan of the Qtopia stack) Thanks, Pieter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] found the best gsmhandset.state file in FDOmizer
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Re: rcp works, konqueror+fish not
I have the same problem - can't upload with fish://, both with qtextended and FDOM. And sftp:// doesn't work either. It tells me the password is wrong :S So I'm using scp to copy filest to my Freerunner. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Hendrik Siedelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/22 Aapo Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can rcp files from computer to my freerunner, but with konqueror and fish:// I can only download not upload. Moko just disconnects when I start uploading. Freerunner is running fdom and my computer is running Ubuntu: 8.04, Qt: 3.3.8b, KDE:3.5.9, Konqueror: 3.5.9. I just installed Debian on Freerunner and now konqueror+fish works, so I think it is about dropbear, not konqueror. (Debian has Dropbear sshd v0.51and fdom 0.49, maybe this is the point) -Aapo Rantalainen I don't really know whats the difference, but konqueror+sftp:// works out of the box on every image I used, so I think the problem is indeed fish. hendrik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
