Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-20 Thread ian douglas
Lorn Potter wrote (on 2008-07-11 02:12pm):
 6. Installing QPK apps - Is this possible? I would like to run a 
 terminal (the Konsole port) and any other useful/cool apps. I don't know 
 how to go about this. I've copied some QPK files to the /home/root on 
 the device, but how can these be installed? Or can they?
 
 They need to be on a web server/feed.
 I will set up such a feed this week at qtopia.net


Hey Lorn, any luck on getting a web feed available for the QPK apps?
(and are there any available?)

Your site is inaccessible in the Denver area at the moment (2:15am
here), as I'm trying to find an actual server URL to place within
/home/root/Applications/packagemanager/ServersList.conf to download a
list of available apps. I remembered you saying you wanted to have
something up this past week so thought I'd check in.

Cheers,
Ian

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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-14 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas B. wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 06:48:41AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
 Kevin Dean wrote:
 Plugging a Freerunner up via USB to a Debian system while running this
 image doesn't appear to charge. Is this a purely visual thing, or is
 Qtopia unable to charge a Freerunner? I'm assuming that since the
 other software can, this is a Qtopia thing?
 actually, it is an apm thing. apm battery status on the freerunner does
 not work correctly.
 I guess I need to back port a workaround from the 4.4. branch for at
 least showing when it is charging.
 
 I have a slightly different problem: The battery does get charged, but
 the screen doesn't dim or get switched off, although I told it to do
 that in the settings. That's a bit annoying, and it's probably not very
 healthy for the display, too.
 
 Is this also an apm problem, and can it be worked around?

I haven't seen this problem. Although, because apm is broken, qtopia 
cannot tell if the power is plugged in or on battery.


 
 If anyone knows how to get a real battery status on the freerunner I can 
 fix this up.
 
 I only know of 
 /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status.
 Maybe that helps?

not on my devices:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat 
/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status
cat: read error: Timer expired


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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-14 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas B. wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:16:01PM +0200, Thomas B. wrote:
 I have a slightly different problem: The battery does get charged, but
 the screen doesn't dim or get switched off, although I told it to do
 that in the settings. That's a bit annoying, and it's probably not very
 healthy for the display, too.

 Is this also an apm problem, and can it be worked around?
 
 I just noticed that there is already a newer Qtopia snapshot available
 for download than the one I have installed (mine is from Friday). I'd
 love to try that one out, maybe it solves my problem quoted above.
 
 Now my next question is: Is there a way to upgrade Qtopia to the new
 snapshot without losing my data (e.g. contacts and messages)? Backing up
 the data and writing it back after the upgrade would be fine, but I
 don't know where the data is stored.

it is stored in the databases:
~/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite
~/Applications/qtmail/qtopia_db.sqlite

Settings are stored in ~/Settings

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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-14 Thread Kai Stian Olstad
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If anyone knows how to get a real battery status on the freerunner I can
 fix this up.

 I only know of 
 /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status.
 Maybe that helps?

 not on my devices:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat
 /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status
 cat: read error: Timer expired

On my device:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat
/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status
Charging

-
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-14 Thread Lorn Potter
Kai Stian Olstad wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If anyone knows how to get a real battery status on the freerunner I can
 fix this up.
 I only know of 
 /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status.
 Maybe that helps?
 not on my devices:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat
 /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status
 cat: read error: Timer expired
 
 On my device:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat
 /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status
 Charging

hmm ok. so mine is a prototype hardware glitch. thats good to know.


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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-14 Thread Thomas B.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 04:54:40AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
 Kai Stian Olstad wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If anyone knows how to get a real battery status on the freerunner I can
  fix this up.
  I only know of 
  /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status.
  Maybe that helps?
  not on my devices:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat
  /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status
  cat: read error: Timer expired
  
  On my device:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat
  /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status
  Charging
 
 hmm ok. so mine is a prototype hardware glitch. thats good to know.

Hmm, maybe that thing isn't that reliable anyway... I just observed that
it seems to oscillate between Charging and Discharging when the
battery is nearly 100% full.

Looking around in the /sys tree I found something else:
/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgstate
It says enabled usb_present when charger is plugged in, and is empty
when running from battery.

I'm just guessing, though. Is there anyone here who can tell a reliable
method to find out whether a charger is present or not on the
Freerunner?

Regards,
Thomas


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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-13 Thread Thomas B.
Hi!

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 06:48:41AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
 Kevin Dean wrote:
  Plugging a Freerunner up via USB to a Debian system while running this
  image doesn't appear to charge. Is this a purely visual thing, or is
  Qtopia unable to charge a Freerunner? I'm assuming that since the
  other software can, this is a Qtopia thing?
 
 actually, it is an apm thing. apm battery status on the freerunner does
 not work correctly.
 I guess I need to back port a workaround from the 4.4. branch for at
 least showing when it is charging.

I have a slightly different problem: The battery does get charged, but
the screen doesn't dim or get switched off, although I told it to do
that in the settings. That's a bit annoying, and it's probably not very
healthy for the display, too.

Is this also an apm problem, and can it be worked around?

 If anyone knows how to get a real battery status on the freerunner I can 
 fix this up.

I only know of /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status.
Maybe that helps?

Regards,
Thomas


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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-13 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:16:01PM +0200, Thomas B. wrote:
 I have a slightly different problem: The battery does get charged, but
 the screen doesn't dim or get switched off, although I told it to do
 that in the settings. That's a bit annoying, and it's probably not very
 healthy for the display, too.
 
 Is this also an apm problem, and can it be worked around?

I just noticed that there is already a newer Qtopia snapshot available
for download than the one I have installed (mine is from Friday). I'd
love to try that one out, maybe it solves my problem quoted above.

Now my next question is: Is there a way to upgrade Qtopia to the new
snapshot without losing my data (e.g. contacts and messages)? Backing up
the data and writing it back after the upgrade would be fine, but I
don't know where the data is stored.

Regards,
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-12 Thread Randy S.
Lorn, since making this change, I have not been able to boot the device
successfully into Qtopia again.



On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Randy S. wrote:
  Great! Here's what I've got.
  1. Often, a startup seems to fail. This always happens when I use NAND
  u-Boot (a 7-10-2008 version), but usually is OK with u-Boot from NOR (I
  think it's a May 2008 version).
 Try this:
 Quickfix is to ssh into device, edit /etc/init.d/qpe and remove the lines:
 -#crappy workaround for some weird suspend bug
 -rm /dev/ttySAC0
 -mknod /dev/ttySAC0 c 204 64 -m 660
 -chgrp dialout /dev/ttySAC0
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-12 Thread Randy S.
I should clarify: After the change, a boot would end up showing the UI
momentarily (a few seconds) then the black screen.


On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Randy S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lorn, since making this change, I have not been able to boot the device
 successfully into Qtopia again.




 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Randy S. wrote:
  Great! Here's what I've got.
  1. Often, a startup seems to fail. This always happens when I use NAND
  u-Boot (a 7-10-2008 version), but usually is OK with u-Boot from NOR (I
  think it's a May 2008 version).
 Try this:
 Quickfix is to ssh into device, edit /etc/init.d/qpe and remove the lines:
 -#crappy workaround for some weird suspend bug
 -rm /dev/ttySAC0
 -mknod /dev/ttySAC0 c 204 64 -m 660
 -chgrp dialout /dev/ttySAC0
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-12 Thread Lorn Potter
Randy S. wrote:
 I should clarify: After the change, a boot would end up showing the UI 
 momentarily (a few seconds) then the black screen.

that might be because it is suspending. If it is stil lplugged in, it 
still thinks its on battery as apm is borked

 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Randy S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Lorn, since making this change, I have not been able to boot the
 device successfully into Qtopia again.
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Randy S. wrote:
   Great! Here's what I've got.
   1. Often, a startup seems to fail. This always happens when I
 use NAND
   u-Boot (a 7-10-2008 version), but usually is OK with u-Boot
 from NOR (I
   think it's a May 2008 version).
 Try this:
 Quickfix is to ssh into device, edit /etc/init.d/qpe and remove
 the lines:
 -#crappy workaround for some weird suspend bug
 -rm /dev/ttySAC0
 -mknod /dev/ttySAC0 c 204 64 -m 660
 -chgrp dialout /dev/ttySAC0
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[qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Randy S.
Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I am using
the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues. Where is the proper
place to discuss these things?  Here in this forum, or in a Qtopia forum?
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Randy S. wrote:
 Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I am 
 using the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues. Where is 
 the proper place to discuss these things?  Here in this forum, or in a 
 Qtopia forum? Thx!

I think here is fine. otherwise there is a qtopia-interest mailing list:
http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/
or there are qtopia forums at qtopia.net



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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Kevin Dean
Plugging a Freerunner up via USB to a Debian system while running this
image doesn't appear to charge. Is this a purely visual thing, or is
Qtopia unable to charge a Freerunner? I'm assuming that since the
other software can, this is a Qtopia thing?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Randy S. wrote:
 Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I am
 using the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues. Where is
 the proper place to discuss these things?  Here in this forum, or in a
 Qtopia forum? Thx!

 I think here is fine. otherwise there is a qtopia-interest mailing list:
 http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/
 or there are qtopia forums at qtopia.net



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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Stroller

On 11 Jul 2008, at 19:55, Randy S. wrote:
 ...
 Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I  
 am using the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues.  
 Where is the proper place to discuss these things?  Here in this  
 forum, or in a Qtopia forum? Thx!

It's fine to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko on the Openmoko lists.

IMO device-owners, a list where owners of openmoko devices can share  
their experiences is the best place for troubleshooting.

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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Randy S.
Great! Here's what I've got.

1. Often, a startup seems to fail. This always happens when I use NAND
u-Boot (a 7-10-2008 version), but usually is OK with u-Boot from NOR (I
think it's a May 2008 version).

2. Bluetooth handsfree - pairs and connects fine with my handsfree headset.
But if I try to make a call with it, there is no sound in the headset or the
handset. I don't know if the other person hears me.

3. Bluetooth keyboard - will pair but not connect with my Logitech Lenovo
Mini bluetooth keyboard.

4. Bluetooth and reboot - I don't know for sure, but it appears that having
any bluetooth configured will cause Qtopia to fail on reboot. I've had to
re-flash the rootfs to reset things.

5. Wireless LAN - once this is set up, it never successfully connects. I use
a WPA-KEY configuration. Worse, it seems that after I configure it, Qtopia
will never successfully boot up again. I've had to re-flash the rootfs to
reset things.

6. Installing QPK apps - Is this possible? I would like to run a terminal
(the Konsole port) and any other useful/cool apps. I don't know how to go
about this. I've copied some QPK files to the /home/root on the device, but
how can these be installed? Or can they?

7. Can I use the package manager to find apps? (Presumably that requires a
network connection, which I don't yet have.)

8. Is there a walkthrough to set up GPRS? I'm on T-Mobile in the US. Should
I follow the Manually Using GPRS in the openmoko wiki? Or can it be done via
Qtopia's UI? (I've not been successful with the latter.)

9. Is there any web browser available for this version? Lorn, I saw you
mentioned 4.4 will have a Webkit port. Can't wait for that.

Thanks for what looks to be a very promising software set, and help
addressing these issues.


On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Randy S. wrote:
  Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I am
  using the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues. Where is
  the proper place to discuss these things?  Here in this forum, or in a
  Qtopia forum? Thx!

 I think here is fine. otherwise there is a qtopia-interest mailing list:
 http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/
 or there are qtopia forums at qtopia.net



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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Kevin Dean wrote:
 Plugging a Freerunner up via USB to a Debian system while running this
 image doesn't appear to charge. Is this a purely visual thing, or is
 Qtopia unable to charge a Freerunner? I'm assuming that since the
 other software can, this is a Qtopia thing?

actually, it is an apm thing. apm battery status on the freerunner does 
not work correctly.
I guess I need to back port a workaround from the 4.4. branch for at 
least showing when it is charging.

If anyone knows how to get a real battery status on the freerunner I can 
fix this up.


 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Randy S. wrote:
 Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I am
 using the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues. Where is
 the proper place to discuss these things?  Here in this forum, or in a
 Qtopia forum? Thx!
 I think here is fine. otherwise there is a qtopia-interest mailing list:
 http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/
 or there are qtopia forums at qtopia.net



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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Randy S. wrote:
 Great! Here's what I've got.
 
 1. Often, a startup seems to fail. This always happens when I use NAND 
 u-Boot (a 7-10-2008 version), but usually is OK with u-Boot from NOR (I 
 think it's a May 2008 version).
Try this:
Quickfix is to ssh into device, edit /etc/init.d/qpe and remove the lines:
-#crappy workaround for some weird suspend bug
-rm /dev/ttySAC0
-mknod /dev/ttySAC0 c 204 64 -m 660
-chgrp dialout /dev/ttySAC0
-

which I put in for the 1973 and attempting to get suspend/resume 
working. The little crash at first start was fixed in my initial testing 
of this.

 
 2. Bluetooth handsfree - pairs and connects fine with my handsfree 
 headset. But if I try to make a call with it, there is no sound in the 
 headset or the handset. I don't know if the other person hears me.
 
 3. Bluetooth keyboard - will pair but not connect with my Logitech 
 Lenovo Mini bluetooth keyboard.
 
 4. Bluetooth and reboot - I don't know for sure, but it appears that 
 having any bluetooth configured will cause Qtopia to fail on reboot. 
 I've had to re-flash the rootfs to reset things.

will look into bt things.

 
 5. Wireless LAN - once this is set up, it never successfully connects. I 
 use a WPA-KEY configuration. Worse, it seems that after I configure it, 
 Qtopia will never successfully boot up again. I've had to re-flash the 
 rootfs to reset things.

That is because wpa_supplicant has problems on this system. If you can 
get it up through the commandline, let me know. I couldn't.

Qtopia runs the script /opt/Qtopia/bin/lan-network for wifi configurations.


 
 6. Installing QPK apps - Is this possible? I would like to run a 
 terminal (the Konsole port) and any other useful/cool apps. I don't know 
 how to go about this. I've copied some QPK files to the /home/root on 
 the device, but how can these be installed? Or can they?

They need to be on a web server/feed.
I will set up such a feed this week at qtopia.net

Qpk's are like opkg but with added security features, such as sandboxing 
and not running scripts.

 
 7. Can I use the package manager to find apps? (Presumably that requires 
 a network connection, which I don't yet have.)

Yes, but it only handles qpk's.

 
 8. Is there a walkthrough to set up GPRS? I'm on T-Mobile in the US. 
 Should I follow the Manually Using GPRS in the openmoko wiki? Or can it 
 be done via Qtopia's UI? (I've not been successful with the latter.)

GPRS in Qtopia depends on multiplexing, which we haven't yet gotten 
working. We will once we get a few more freerunners.

 
 9. Is there any web browser available for this version? Lorn, I saw you 
 mentioned 4.4 will have a Webkit port. Can't wait for that.

4.4 is it. I am trying to get mgmnt to start qtopia 4.4 snapshots so I 
could release images for it.

 
 Thanks for what looks to be a very promising software set, and help 
 addressing these issues.
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Randy S. wrote:
   Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I am
   using the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues. Where is
   the proper place to discuss these things?  Here in this forum, or
 in a
   Qtopia forum? Thx!
 
 I think here is fine. otherwise there is a qtopia-interest mailing list:
 http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/
 or there are qtopia forums at qtopia.net http://qtopia.net
 
 
 
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hi Lorn,

great work with Qtopia image, it works fine in my Freerunner, but I found
some problems:

1- I don't get the call sound in the speaker;
2 - The Bluetooth keyboard seems to not input data to the applications (I
test it in sms and in notes).

Keep the good work :)



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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Valerio Valerio wrote:
 Hi Lorn,
 
 great work with Qtopia image, it works fine in my Freerunner, but I 
 found some problems:
 
 1- I don't get the call sound in the speaker;
What do you mean by 'call sound'?


 2 - The Bluetooth keyboard seems to not input data to the applications 
 (I test it in sms and in notes).
 
 Keep the good work :)
 
 
 
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Randy S.
Thank you, Lorn. I am out of town for the weekend with only a Windows
laptop. I will try to get the Ubuntu Live CD and try your suggestion for the
bootup locks.


On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Randy S. wrote:
  Great! Here's what I've got.
 
  1. Often, a startup seems to fail. This always happens when I use NAND
  u-Boot (a 7-10-2008 version), but usually is OK with u-Boot from NOR (I
  think it's a May 2008 version).
 Try this:
 Quickfix is to ssh into device, edit /etc/init.d/qpe and remove the lines:
 -#crappy workaround for some weird suspend bug
 -rm /dev/ttySAC0
 -mknod /dev/ttySAC0 c 204 64 -m 660
 -chgrp dialout /dev/ttySAC0
 -

 which I put in for the 1973 and attempting to get suspend/resume
 working. The little crash at first start was fixed in my initial testing
 of this.

 
  2. Bluetooth handsfree - pairs and connects fine with my handsfree
  headset. But if I try to make a call with it, there is no sound in the
  headset or the handset. I don't know if the other person hears me.
 
  3. Bluetooth keyboard - will pair but not connect with my Logitech
  Lenovo Mini bluetooth keyboard.
 
  4. Bluetooth and reboot - I don't know for sure, but it appears that
  having any bluetooth configured will cause Qtopia to fail on reboot.
  I've had to re-flash the rootfs to reset things.

 will look into bt things.

 
  5. Wireless LAN - once this is set up, it never successfully connects. I
  use a WPA-KEY configuration. Worse, it seems that after I configure it,
  Qtopia will never successfully boot up again. I've had to re-flash the
  rootfs to reset things.

 That is because wpa_supplicant has problems on this system. If you can
 get it up through the commandline, let me know. I couldn't.

 Qtopia runs the script /opt/Qtopia/bin/lan-network for wifi configurations.


 
  6. Installing QPK apps - Is this possible? I would like to run a
  terminal (the Konsole port) and any other useful/cool apps. I don't know
  how to go about this. I've copied some QPK files to the /home/root on
  the device, but how can these be installed? Or can they?

 They need to be on a web server/feed.
 I will set up such a feed this week at qtopia.net

 Qpk's are like opkg but with added security features, such as sandboxing
 and not running scripts.

 
  7. Can I use the package manager to find apps? (Presumably that requires
  a network connection, which I don't yet have.)

 Yes, but it only handles qpk's.

 
  8. Is there a walkthrough to set up GPRS? I'm on T-Mobile in the US.
  Should I follow the Manually Using GPRS in the openmoko wiki? Or can it
  be done via Qtopia's UI? (I've not been successful with the latter.)

 GPRS in Qtopia depends on multiplexing, which we haven't yet gotten
 working. We will once we get a few more freerunners.

 
  9. Is there any web browser available for this version? Lorn, I saw you
  mentioned 4.4 will have a Webkit port. Can't wait for that.

 4.4 is it. I am trying to get mgmnt to start qtopia 4.4 snapshots so I
 could release images for it.

 
  Thanks for what looks to be a very promising software set, and help
  addressing these issues.
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Randy S. wrote:
Because it seems to make the FR the closest to actually usable, I
 am
using the Qtopia v4.3.2 image and have run into some issues. Where
 is
the proper place to discuss these things?  Here in this forum, or
  in a
Qtopia forum? Thx!
 
  I think here is fine. otherwise there is a qtopia-interest mailing
 list:
  http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/
  or there are qtopia forums at qtopia.net http://qtopia.net
 
 
 
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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Kevin Dean
Attempting to launch the media player caused Qtopia to restart. Three times.

Mp3 files on SD don't appear in the media player's lists, but they DO
appear in Documents. Clicking on a mp3 file gives a media engine not
configured error.

The POWER button being held activates the Reset/Restart menu, but
releasing the button causes it to close. I need to hold down POWER and
press the button I want.

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Valerio Valerio wrote:
 Hi Lorn,

 great work with Qtopia image, it works fine in my Freerunner, but I
 found some problems:

 1- I don't get the call sound in the speaker;
 What do you mean by 'call sound'?


 2 - The Bluetooth keyboard seems to not input data to the applications
 (I test it in sms and in notes).

 Keep the good work :)



 Cheers,
 --
 Valério Valério

 http://www.valeriovalerio.org


 

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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Chris Hessing
I don't know if this will help, but yesterday Lorn posted the following 
to fix sound :

quickfix:
ssh into the device as root, and then do

ln -s /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios /etc/alsa
restart qtopia



Once I finally got my GTA01 running with the Qtopia build, I had the 
same problem with sound.  Following these instructions caused the sound 
to start working.

HTH.

Valerio Valerio wrote:
 Hi Lorn,

 great work with Qtopia image, it works fine in my Freerunner, but I 
 found some problems:

 1- I don't get the call sound in the speaker;
 2 - The Bluetooth keyboard seems to not input data to the applications 
 (I test it in sms and in notes).

 Keep the good work :)



 Cheers,
 -- 
 Valério Valério

 http://www.valeriovalerio.org
 

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Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-11 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Lorn Potter wrote:
 9. Is there any web browser available for this version? Lorn, I saw you 
 mentioned 4.4 will have a Webkit port. Can't wait for that.
 
 4.4 is it. I am trying to get mgmnt to start qtopia 4.4 snapshots so I 
 could release images for it.

Sorry if I'm pressing too much since it's the second time I'm asking 
about this, but do you have any idea about when you'll be able to 
release it (I'd like to know simply if you have still months or just 
weeks of work :P)?

Thanks

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