Re: Using a webcam on the Openmoko
Hi, I'm trying to let the Logitech Quickcam Pro for Notebooks (046d:0991) work on the FreeRunner. The webcam works well on a PC (Fedora 4 2.6.17), using uvcvideo and luvcview. But what shoud I do to cross-compile the driver and the application? Could anyone tell me particularly? Thanks. Pierre Pronchery wrote: Hi community, I just wanted to let you know that I got a webcam to work on my Freerunner. I have written some instructions on the official wiki in both English and French: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam It could be made much easier already by enabling video input support by default in the official kernel builds. I'll file a bug for this next thing. HTH, -- Pierre Pronchery, Hackable devices RD, Bearstech email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 42 boulevard Sébastopol PGP: AE49 5F7D D56A 4BD6 7B1F 75003 Paris, France 8655 125C 0FE6 5566 EBD8 Web: http://bearstech.com Phone: +49 177 472 7481 Phone: +33 6 71 62 42 74 Fax: +49 304 208 1861 Fax: +33 1 42 72 20 03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-a-webcam-on-the-Openmoko-tp1314188p1385847.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] How to use GPS?
Hello, The next think I want to try is using GPS on my FR with Om2008.9. I've never used GPS before and so I'm a bit lost in how to do with FR :-) The desktop has an icon 'Locations' and by launching it it asks me if I want to switch-o GPS, I press 'yes' and then nothing more happens, there is only a map with a red dot in Asia. What to do next? The information in the Wiki is not very helpful. Like in all cases it reflects the 2007.x version I think; any other useful pointers? TIA matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS sensitivity
In open sky conditions in Jaipur, India (outdoors) the Freerunner normally gives me a 40s (+ - 10s) tiff while my N 95 takes 60s (+ - 10) [ cold starts after rebooting on both ]. I have not timed them indoors but will do so and report after Diwali Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
Hmm i found that too Yaroslav. Would definitely be handy. Also the keyboard is almost incompatible. When you type in a name and select it, the keyboard puts in a space character which yields no results until you backspace. Is there a way to get the keyboard to lose predictive text so it can sort on the fly? -nick On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko.org@ onerussian.com wrote: ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing , we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things! One of those dirty things is change config files, the standard 2008.9 has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and show it :) If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the dirty thing we have done to it :) according to git log and http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commitlog/2008-September/006060.html holger enabled it in qtopia build in september ... but for some reason it wasn't enabled by default also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts whenever it is called from the dialer (person icon) -- and that is the most often place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start contacts first I guess, heh heh or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)
What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up. Leonti Bielski wrote: I think something is lowing down FDOM, maybe this is gestures daemon (someone at some point said it eats a lot of CPU power)? And another thing - it takes years to login via ssh to Freerunner with FDOM. With other distributions I just enter 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]', press Enter and immediately press Enter when it asks for password. But with FDOM I actually have to wait till it gives me password promt. This happens not only with the lates distribution but with all FDOM I tried. But I still use sometimes to check for new things available for Freerunner. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg.org and neo1973-germany.de
I see that some great software has been done in Germany. Would it be possible to add these to opkg.org to get bigger audience and user base? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Hi there, is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the port? Cheers /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Sign up to Koolu's forum [1] and see what's going on there. Cfriedt also has a spreadsheet of progress that seems to have been updated frequently [2]. Last time I check there were a few to go but now, not so much. See also [3]. Nick 1. http://forum.koolu.org/ 2. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw 3. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android See also: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the port? Cheers /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Opkg how to?
I've read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg seems ok enough, but id like to make them aviable to everyone, how? Hi, You can publish theom on http://www.opkg.org/ Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up. top? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
I haven't missed any calls yet. However, when i suspend manually (pressing the power button) and want to wake the phone up manually, it turns on for half a second and than off again. I always need to press the power button again. (Also, it doesn't seem to make much difference) qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you never turn on wifi Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS sensitivity
agps-onlinec -c full -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -k Fvhcv -la 35.22 -lo -79.46 -al 250 -p 100.00 [...] provided the location data prefed to agps-onlinec and the current time (system clock) are accurate enough. (clock doesn't need to be second-precise, but if it's off several hours or more then you've got If you have some kind of regular IP connectivity, then your clock offset should easily stay well within 1s (using an ntp daemon). Stefan PS: BTW, thank you all for your answers. I now see that my experience with my FR is simply normal so I shouldn't try and waste any time figuring out what might be wrong with it. I don't even need aGPS for my intended use of the GPS (mostly for OSM). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?
The next think I want to try is using GPS on my FR with Om2008.9. I've never used GPS before and so I'm a bit lost in how to do with FR :-) The desktop has an icon 'Locations' and by launching it it asks me if I want to switch-o GPS, I press 'yes' and then nothing more happens, there is only a map with a red dot in Asia. What to do next? That's it. All you need to do next is wait for the GPS to get a first fix. This may take a minute or so if you're in an outside open area with a nice view of the sky, and it may take forever (literally) if you're in a building, or if the GPS antenna (which is located at the top of your FR) is buried in your coat pocket or facing towards the earth. You only need to be that careful in order to get the first fix. Afterwards, you can go about your business, put the FR in a pocket, etc and the GPS will keep track of your movements. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?
El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 04:37:24AM -0400, Stefan Monnier escribió: The next think I want to try is using GPS on my FR with Om2008.9. I've never used GPS before and so I'm a bit lost in how to do with FR :-) The desktop has an icon 'Locations' and by launching it it asks me if I want to switch-o GPS, I press 'yes' and then nothing more happens, there is only a map with a red dot in Asia. What to do next? That's it. All you need to do next is wait for the GPS to get a first fix. This may take a minute or so if you're in an outside open area with a nice view of the sky, and it may take forever (literally) if you're in a building, or if the GPS antenna (which is located at the top of your FR) is buried in your coat pocket or facing towards the earth. I was in a building when I tried this last night; will test it outside again (when it stops raining here :-)); You only need to be that careful in order to get the first fix. Afterwards, you can go about your business, put the FR in a pocket, etc and the GPS will keep track of your movements. does this mean as well that I will get some map on my screen? is there some interfacing for exmaple with this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=23.11725lon=-82.42706zoom=15layers=B000FTF Thx for your help matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debug board seems not working
hi, I'm using Freerunner and debug board v3, and trying to use serial console, and Ubuntu 8.04 on my PC. I have connected the FR and the debug board with the flexible cable. The /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't show up, but only /dev/ttyACM0, when I connected both USB of freerunner and debug board to PC, as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3. 1. Should the /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 show up while no FR connected to debug board (and the debug board connected to PC)? 2. Should I flash the debug board? Any idea? Thanks in advance. -- dmesg result: [22932.304312] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 18 [22932.487138] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices [22932.497342] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [22932.497373] cdc_acm 5-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [22935.663858] usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19 [22935.816913] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [22935.818759] hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found [22935.820674] hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected [22936.137318] usb 5-1.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 20 [22936.297399] usb 5-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb Bus 007 Device 001: ID : Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Bus 006 Device 001: ID : Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118 Bus 005 Device 021: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 004 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Bus 004 Device 001: ID : Bus 003 Device 001: ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb -d 1457:5118 -v Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118 Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 8 idVendor 0x1457 idProduct 0x5118 bcdDevice5.00 iManufacturer 1 OpenMoko iProduct2 Debug Board for Neo1973 iSerial 0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 55 bNumInterfaces 2 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 100mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 2 Debug Board for Neo1973 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber1 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 2 Debug Board for Neo1973 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 16:50 +1000, nick d. escribió: Hmm i found that too Yaroslav. Would definitely be handy. Also the keyboard is almost incompatible. When you type in a name and select it, the keyboard puts in a space character which yields no results until you backspace. Is there a way to get the keyboard to lose predictive text so it can sort on the fly? I'm using the illume terminal keyboard for that, but as I remember if you maintain a key for a few , it will override the predictive thing and put directly that letter. -nick On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing , we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things! One of those dirty things is change config files, the standard 2008.9 has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and show it :) If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the dirty thing we have done to it :) according to git log and http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commitlog/2008-September/006060.html holger enabled it in qtopia build in september ... but for some reason it wasn't enabled by default also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts whenever it is called from the dialer (person icon) -- and that is the most often place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start contacts first I guess, heh heh or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@| www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
On Tuesday 28 Oct 2008 1:43:09 pm Richy wrote: qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you never turn on wifi My experience matches this and it gives me hope that it is indeed possible to make the FR battery last longer. Typically, with about 10-15 mins of talking per day, I loose about one bar for 24 hrs! Sot that's about 3 to 4 days of battery life! But then sometimes (just sometimes) that it does not suspend automatically and battery drains rapidly. There is no way to manually suspend the FR (without the CLI) and reboot is the only way to set that straight. If you turn on wifi once, it appears that it does not really turn off ever until a reboot and again battery drains rapidly. I find qtextended very usable as a daily phone; now only if it would default to headset instead of speaker phone when answering calls... :( -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
Hi, On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:47:03 +0800 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now for the status update this week: Tick merged the qtopia echo patch (#1267), it works, no echo but the audio sounds a little bit less 'vivid' (not sure if this is the right word). He is now working on the touch screen usage, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002712.html Will this patch went into stable too? Or did I need to upgrade to testing for this? Regards, Joerg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] config utility
Alastair Johnson wrote: The FSO API is capable of a good deal more than is exposed by GUI in the releases so far. This utility is an attempt to do something useful while finding out about python, gtk, dbus and fso. It's not pretty, or an example of good coding practise! * GPRS networking - Start and stop, shows current status. Default values are currently hardcoded, but can be changed in the GUI. I will add saving when I find out how to use the FSO Preferences interface. * GSM - currently informational for status and visible providers. * Screen - control brightness, resolution and orientation. uses xrandr for resolution and orientation as AFAIK there is no FSO interface for these. You will need python-pygtk to use this. I've been using it on fso-testing but it should work with SHR and debian too. http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/tools/fso/fso-config-util.py I've added provider registration control. You can now select automatic registration, manually register to a specific provider, or unregister. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] found the best gsmhandset.state file in FDOmizer
okay let's give it a try. merged into om svn and will be used as the default gsmhandset.state in the next build. the qtopia echo patch along with this state file still leaves a little echo and buzzing, but doesn't really effect the talking. Regards, John On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 01:16:42PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Since I own my FR I've already tested a lot of variants of the gsmhandset.state file; today I got to know of the FDOMizer project and pulled out the version of their tar file FDOMizer20081023.tar.gz; this is the best I have ever had until today: no echo, very clear and high volume on both ends (my wife asked me in a call if I have finally changed my opinion and have returned to normal cellphone :-)). There is still some buzzing, for both ends, but this is not so important. Just to let you know. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
Hi, We will still do a 2008.11 release so it will be in stable soon. If you don't to wait, you can switch to testing repo. Regards, John On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:06:34AM +0100, umaxx wrote: Hi, On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:47:03 +0800 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now for the status update this week: Tick merged the qtopia echo patch (#1267), it works, no echo but the audio sounds a little bit less 'vivid' (not sure if this is the right word). He is now working on the touch screen usage, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002712.html Will this patch went into stable too? Or did I need to upgrade to testing for this? Regards, Joerg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
Am Monday 27 October 2008 13:28:17 schrieb arne anka: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.html ;hb=HEAD that one i was looking for -- none of the specific pages google lists has a reference to this toc. It's not an easy human-readable URL, but it is linked from the freesmartphone.org homepage, and it does give access to all the API docs I think. it has been sometime since i looked, but back then there was no link on the wiki (at least non easily found) and i never cared to look again. instead i asked 3 times at the smartphone-lists and never got an answer. Perhaps my mails to land in your spamfolder, but I'm sure I've given docs.freesmartphone.org a bunch of time as answer. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
What files do I install to get audio. in testing
Ive been trying testing out and after 3 days, Ive finally gotten a pin dialog and was able to register. However, what files do I need to install to get audio. On one flash I installed everything alsa and was able to stream audio via mplayer, but still none in the dialler. I am after a minimal set of files to simply testing each version out so I just want to know the minimum needed to get it to work. BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] found the best gsmhandset.state file in FDOmizer
El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 06:09:24PM +0800, John Lee escribió: okay let's give it a try. merged into om svn and will be used as the default gsmhandset.state in the next build. the qtopia echo patch along with this state file still leaves a little echo and buzzing, but doesn't really effect the talking. Yes, I have checked it as well in the cellphone of my wife who called me from my FR. The called person (i.e. I) was hearing echo of his own speaking; this went fully away by lowering in control.4 the values from 116 to 100: control.4 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 127' iface MIXER name 'Speaker Playback Volume' value.0 100 ** value.1 100 ** } now it's really fine, only a bit of buzzing but this is nearly unimportant; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
Am Monday 27 October 2008 14:10:53 schrieb Alastair Johnson: arne anka wrote: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.htm l;hb=HEAD that one i was looking for -- none of the specific pages google lists has a reference to this toc. It's not an easy human-readable URL, but it is linked from the freesmartphone.org homepage, and it does give access to all the API docs I think. it has been sometime since i looked, but back then there was no link on the wiki (at least non easily found) and i never cared to look again. instead i asked 3 times at the smartphone-lists and never got an answer. I had expected to find the mailing list details easily, but they are burried on the Tutorials page! ? http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Infrastructure If you think that's buried... help us, it's a wiki! -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
If you think that's buried... help us, it's a wiki! not as long as it requires to create an account -- i got far to much of those and do not intend to add to the list just to make some comments or corrections in a wiki. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)
I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions do not go together easily. Any ideas? On Tue, October 28, 2008 09:09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up. top? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM, KaZeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Lippmann a écrit : Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb Lorn Potter: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable than the previous version. We all were. The truth is, 4.4.1 was pushed out before it was ready. But it couldn't be helped. Wouldn't it be great to release an intermediate version soon, in which the most severe UI-bugs are fixed (like the finger-scrolling/selection-Bug or the way-to-sensitive-keyboard where it's almost impossible to switch to special characters)? I'm quite sure it's just a matter of settings as it worked in the former version. or the bouncing calypso and the echo fix.. It would be really nice. See Lorn J.Potter's mail in support. Qtextended 4.4.2 may be out tomorrow and he will try to release Neo images along with it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] QT Dbus connection to Gypsy
Are you extracting the data out of the struct with the operators Thank you again for that hint: For interested the way I implemented it: Greets Michael struct GPSSatellite{ int ID; bool InUse; unsigned int Elevation; unsigned int Azimuth; unsigned int SNR; }; GPSSatellite SatellitesArray[32]; GPSSatellite Satellite; void MokoGPS::GetSatellites() { QDBusMessage SatelliteReply; SatelliteReply = GPSInterface-call(GetSatellites); QList QVariant args = SatelliteReply.arguments(); QVariant attrs = args[0]; const QDBusArgument arg = args[0].value QDBusArgument (); arg.beginArray (); NumberOfSats = 0; while ( !arg.atEnd ()) { NumberOfSats +=1; /// SatellitesArray[] beginnt bei 1 arg.beginArray (); arg SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].ID SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].InUse SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].Elevation SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].Azimuth SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].SNR; arg.endArray (); } arg.endArray (); qDebug() Number of Satellites NumberOfSats; } ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 06:11:54 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts whenever it is called from the dialer (person icon) -- and that is the most often place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start contacts first I guess, heh heh or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-) If you change the mentioned key Contacts and the Contact Selection Dialog will show the search bar. The Contact Selection didn't work because Trolltech copy and pasted the 80% of the same code to multiple places. So far we have found two and patches both of them (actually trevino spotted both). does this answer your question? z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debug board seems not working
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:01:40 +0800 Lin Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you need to connect to DB using openocd ;) hi, I'm using Freerunner and debug board v3, and trying to use serial console, and Ubuntu 8.04 on my PC. I have connected the FR and the debug board with the flexible cable. The /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't show up, but only /dev/ttyACM0, when I connected both USB of freerunner and debug board to PC, as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3. 1. Should the /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 show up while no FR connected to debug board (and the debug board connected to PC)? 2. Should I flash the debug board? Any idea? Thanks in advance. -- dmesg result: [22932.304312] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 18 [22932.487138] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices [22932.497342] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [22932.497373] cdc_acm 5-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [22935.663858] usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19 [22935.816913] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [22935.818759] hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found [22935.820674] hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected [22936.137318] usb 5-1.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 20 [22936.297399] usb 5-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb Bus 007 Device 001: ID : Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Bus 006 Device 001: ID : Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118 Bus 005 Device 021: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 004 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Bus 004 Device 001: ID : Bus 003 Device 001: ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb -d 1457:5118 -v Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118 Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 8 idVendor 0x1457 idProduct 0x5118 bcdDevice5.00 iManufacturer 1 OpenMoko iProduct2 Debug Board for Neo1973 iSerial 0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 55 bNumInterfaces 2 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 100mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 2 Debug Board for Neo1973 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber1 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 2 Debug Board for Neo1973 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT
problem sometimes getting network connection to FR
Sometimes when I connect my Freerunner to my Fedora 9 laptop I get messages in dmesg like these: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3 usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 23 usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 24 usb 4-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 25 usb 4-1: device not accepting address 25, error -71 usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 26 usb 4-1: device not accepting address 26, error -71 hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 then its impossible to get a network connection to the FR. When I reboot the FR its normaly ok again. What is the cause of this, and is it possible to work around? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problem sometimes getting network connection to FR
Workaround : suspend and resume Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?
El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 06:26:24AM -0400, Stefan Monnier escribió: does this mean as well that I will get some map on my screen? is there some interfacing for exmaple with this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=23.11725lon=-82.42706zoom=15layers=B000FTF Yes, you'll get an openstreetmap, provided you are somehow connected to the internet. The `locations' application is about as basic as it gets. The next step up is TangoGPS, which is still very basic. There's also Navit (which offers routing), and lots more. I have now installed and configured: # opkg install gpsd # opkg install http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk # vi /etc/default/gpsd GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 # /etc/init.d/gpsd stop # /etc/init.d/gpsd start because 'Locations' always claims that in can't find the Fix for my actual location; TangoGPS starts fine, connects to the 'gpsd' and downloads the maps through the USB interface from Internet; sometimes is just segfaults :-( I can't see if TangoGPS knows where I am; how can I prove this if GSM is really working? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: debug board seems not working
hi, I just ignore the driver section and consider it is only required by flash eeprom part. Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Mac Lin Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:14:32 +0330 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: debug board seems not working On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:01:40 +0800 Lin Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you need to connect to DB using openocd ;) hi, I'm using Freerunner and debug board v3, and trying to use serial console, and Ubuntu 8.04 on my PC. I have connected the FR and the debug board with the flexible cable. The /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't show up, but only /dev/ttyACM0, when I connected both USB of freerunner and debug board to PC, as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3. 1. Should the /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 show up while no FR connected to debug board (and the debug board connected to PC)? 2. Should I flash the debug board? Any idea? Thanks in advance. -- dmesg result: [22932.304312] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 18 [22932.487138] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices [22932.497342] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [22932.497373] cdc_acm 5-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [22935.663858] usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19 [22935.816913] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [22935.818759] hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found [22935.820674] hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected [22936.137318] usb 5-1.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 20 [22936.297399] usb 5-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb Bus 007 Device 001: ID : Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Bus 006 Device 001: ID : Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118 Bus 005 Device 021: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 004 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Bus 004 Device 001: ID : Bus 003 Device 001: ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb -d 1457:5118 -v Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118 Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 8 idVendor 0x1457 idProduct 0x5118 bcdDevice5.00 iManufacturer 1 OpenMoko iProduct2 Debug Board for Neo1973 iSerial 0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 55 bNumInterfaces 2 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 100mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 2 Debug Board for Neo1973 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber1 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 2 Debug Board for Neo1973 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5
Re: What files do I install to get audio. in testing
William Kenworthy wrote: Ive been trying testing out and after 3 days, Ive finally gotten a pin dialog and was able to register. However, what files do I need to install to get audio. On one flash I installed everything alsa and was able to stream audio via mplayer, but still none in the dialler. I am after a minimal set of files to simply testing each version out so I just want to know the minimum needed to get it to work. Which image? Openmoko, FSO and SHR all have 'testing' repos. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Some debian questions
Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? 2) I now have nice text scrolling by on boot, which is fine. However, I'd like to have a splash screen for my non-tech friends :). I've already installed splashy, however, it fails to use /dev/fb0. However, the file seems to be there and according to dmesg a FB driver is loaded. I've also modified my u-boot environment to add splash and vga=317 to the kernel command line, however it still doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Are there special parameters or so to activate this? I see this with both mwester's last kernel and the OM2008.9 latest kernel (which seems to have a splash?). Thanks to all, - Benedikt www.relamp.tk This e-mail is digitally signed by a PGP key, to verify it's authenticity. If you received this e-mail without key the e-mail may not be authentic. The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our e-mail administrator directly, please send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Monday 27 October 2008 14:10:53 schrieb Alastair Johnson: arne anka wrote: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.htm l;hb=HEAD that one i was looking for -- none of the specific pages google lists has a reference to this toc. It's not an easy human-readable URL, but it is linked from the freesmartphone.org homepage, and it does give access to all the API docs I think. it has been sometime since i looked, but back then there was no link on the wiki (at least non easily found) and i never cared to look again. instead i asked 3 times at the smartphone-lists and never got an answer. I had expected to find the mailing list details easily, but they are burried on the Tutorials page! ? http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Infrastructure If you think that's buried... help us, it's a wiki! I tried searching for 'mailing list' and that page is not among the results. http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=mailing+listgo=Go As for it being a wiki - hoist with my own petard ;-) Although if I had made a link from the front page it would have pointed to the wrong place. I'll add something more suitable now I know the right one. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] QT Dbus connection to Gypsy
2008/10/28 Michael Tansella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you extracting the data out of the struct with the operators Thank you again for that hint: For interested the way I implemented it: Here my snippet to read Phonebooks from sim: struct PhonebookEntry { int index; QString name; QString number; }; Q_DECLARE_METATYPE ( PhonebookEntry ); Q_DECLARE_METATYPE ( QListPhonebookEntry ); const QDBusArgument operator(const QDBusArgument argument, PhonebookEntry pe) { argument.beginStructure(); argument pe.index pe.name pe.number; argument.endStructure(); return argument; } const QDBusArgument operator(QDBusArgument argument, const PhonebookEntry pe) { argument.beginStructure(); argument pe.index pe.name pe.number; argument.endStructure(); return argument; } qDBusRegisterMetaTypePhonebookEntry(); //somewhere in the code QDBusMessage m=gsm_sim-call ( RetrievePhonebook,received ); QListPhonebookEntry lpe=qdbus_castQListPhonebookEntry (m.arguments()[0]); qDebug() lpe; You may be interested to the following too: const QDebug operator(QDebug debug, const PhonebookEntry pe) { debug pe.index pe.number pe.name; return debug; } const QDebug operator(QDebug debug, const QListPhonebookEntry lpe) { foreach(PhonebookEntry pe, lpe) debug pe; return debug; } Where to put this? fso/wiki? om/wiki? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
Oh. So that's why qtopia always loses that data. I thought it was related to reflashing and wondered why, because it has it's db on the sd card... *g* Marcel Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 00:53:59 schrieb W.Kenworthy: because when the phone suspends you lose calls/sms messages ... BillK On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:36 +0100, Marcel wrote: Why do you all turn off suspend? I can clearly understand (and I do this also) that autosuspend is a mess if ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CRC Fail
Maybe this answer from Andy Green helps you a bit because this question already comes up some time ago. You only had to search this mailing list for his response. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td532868 thanks for the link -- i tried to tell him that a while ago, but to no avail. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CRC Fail
Maybe this answer from Andy Green helps you a bit because this question already comes up some time ago. You only had to search this mailing list for his response. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td532868 Morten Olsen Lysgaard wrote: Same here, but no sympthoms. Anyone know exactly what it means? On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:37 +0100, Martijn Otto wrote: I have seen those CRC Fail messages too on OM2008.9, but the device works just as it should. 2008/10/27 David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El Sábado, 25 de Outubro de 2008, Armin ranjbar escribió: I have noticed that my device takes a lot of time to reach init state , its appear that kernel take huge amount of time to boot filesystem , i have changed log_level of boot args and noticed few CRC Fail 0x1a3f , boot I get those CRC Fail too, but mine boots with no other (apparent) problem. Could anyone confirm CRC fail is sort of normal? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Holger Freyther wrote: or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-) If you change the mentioned key Contacts and the Contact Selection Dialog will show the search bar. The Contact Selection didn't work because Trolltech copy and pasted the 80% of the same code to multiple places. So far we have found two and patches both of them (actually trevino spotted both). does this answer your question? I might be still slow... what key should I change? may be I haven't described situation clearly I do have 'extended' Contacts.conf which has [default] EnableFindBar=1 thus I do have a search bar in the 'Contacts', but I don't have it whenever I click on Contacts from within the Dialer. So I guess additional piece in Contacts code wasn't patched or I am not running desired version of qpe (using last FDOM without additional upgrades) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)
Use top on a ssh sesion on a externa pc conected trough usb El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 11:56 +0100, Pander escribió: I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions do not go together easily. Any ideas? On Tue, October 28, 2008 09:09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up. top? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 16:00:28 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: So I guess additional piece in Contacts code wasn't patched or I am not running desired version of qpe (using last FDOM without additional upgrades) No idea what FDOM is using as versions.. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=d6b1877f90a3d97811eebeaac9910ff2a643c010 this was done over a month ago, feel free to test it. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
DIY Audioadaptor
Hi, I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to good for this task (german website): http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47784 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47785 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=9410 Now I wonder, whether a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? -- Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg.org and neo1973-germany.de
Of course! Feel free to add all the software you have. Just register for an account at www.opkg.org. If you need help or you have any questions, drop me a line! Regards, Tobias Am 28.10.2008 08:18, Risto H. Kurppa schrieb: I see that some great software has been done in Germany. Would it be possible to add these to opkg.org to get bigger audience and user base? r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:19:04 +0100, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have now installed and configured: # opkg install gpsd # opkg install http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk # vi /etc/default/gpsd GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 # /etc/init.d/gpsd stop # /etc/init.d/gpsd start because 'Locations' always claims that in can't find the Fix for my actual location; TangoGPS starts fine, connects to the 'gpsd' and downloads the maps through the USB interface from Internet; sometimes is just segfaults :-( I can't see if TangoGPS knows where I am; how can I prove this if GSM is really working? matthias http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/8-User-Manual.html Below the map display in TangoGPS is a line of text. If it starts with 'D' followed by digits then it has that many map tiles it's queued up to download. Following that, or first if it's not downloading, are speed, heading, etc. Or tap over to the 'Trip' tab and check the status there. 'Satellites' will be X/Y where X is the number it can see and Y (hopefully 4) is how many it's using. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility
Hi, since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-) I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS variable in /etc/X11/Xserver. Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again. Bastiaan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility
Bastiaan Hovestreydt wrote: Hi, since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-) I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS variable in /etc/X11/Xserver. Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again. I'd like to add: And when possible make this available as a checkbox in one of the configuration menus. Thanks, PAnder Bastiaan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fso-control
Hello, Here's something I'm working on, fso-control. http://mysite.verizon.net/~digver/apps/fso-control.tar.gz Uses python and edje to control the state (suspend, reboot, shutdown) with frameworkd. It's not unlike what I remember 2007.* and 2008.* having when the POWER button is pressed. Some points * install.sh will cp the files to install but its probably safer to do it manually. * It works from the desktop icon * lock and more buttons currently do nothing. * Add a rule to /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml --- trigger: InputEvent() filters: - HasAttr(switch, POWER) - HasAttr(event, pressed) actions: Command('fso-control') * Why doesn't it work from the POWER button? I asked about in devel list. http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-testing--Can% 27t-start-GUI-with-oevents-rule.-td1389692ef1958.html;cid=1225223928263-321 * With fso-testing /etc/dbus-1/system.d/frameworkd.conf has an error: Its changed in frameworkd.git. -- policy user=root allow own=org.freesmartphone.ousaged/ - allow send_path=/org/freesmartphone/usage/ + allow send_path=/org/freesmartphone/Usage/ allow send_destination=org.freesmartphone.Usage/ allow receive_sender=org.freesmartphone.Usage/ /policy * I plan to add control of the various radios. * I plan to figure out how to package it. * Think thats all. Hope it works! digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:34 AM, nick d. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sign up to Koolu's forum [1] and see what's going on there. Cfriedt also has a spreadsheet of progress that seems to have been updated frequently [2]. Last time I check there were a few to go but now, not so much. See also [3]. Nick 1. http://forum.koolu.org/ 2. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw 3. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android See also: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the port? Cheers /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
Hi, http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47784 I can't recommend this connector. It works, but not very well. I have to pull out the connector aprox. 1 mm to get stereo output. And this position is not very stable. http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47785 If you try this one, please let me know, if it works better. b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? I'm using my selfmade adapter only to connect to some line inputs. As these have a high impedance, the sound quality is ok. elh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to good for this task (german website): http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=4778 4 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=4778 5 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=9410 Now I wonder, whether a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? I bought this connector: http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~template=pcat_product_details_documentproduct_show_id=730520no_brotkrumennavi=1zhmmh_area_kz=LN It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the connector has a to large diameter. Since the headset socket of the Freerunner is a bit inside of the case the connector has only full contact if I press in the connector really hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon as I stop pressing the plug goes back outside a bit again and looses contact again. So you have to make sure that the base of the connector is not to large (this is somewhat similar to the headset connector problem that was there at the first iPhone). Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device. I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of it, since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for self-soldering. b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality (I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really notice anything). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's android-porting mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting Jim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :) -Marcel Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:34:47 schrieb Thomas Köckerbauer: I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to good for this task (german website): http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 78 4 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 78 5 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=94 10 Now I wonder, whether a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? I bought this connector: http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~ template=pcat_product_details_documentproduct_show_id=730520no_brotkrumenn avi=1zhmmh_area_kz=LN It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the connector has a to large diameter. Since the headset socket of the Freerunner is a bit inside of the case the connector has only full contact if I press in the connector really hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon as I stop pressing the plug goes back outside a bit again and looses contact again. So you have to make sure that the base of the connector is not to large (this is somewhat similar to the headset connector problem that was there at the first iPhone). Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device. I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of it, since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for self-soldering. b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality (I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really notice anything). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
On 28.10.2008 at 21:57:09, Marcel wrote: There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :) As far as I know this adaptor is mono-only, right? -- Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What files do I install to get audio. in 2008.testing
ahh, should have realised that. 2008.testing Ive gone back to 2008.9 now as testing has so many bugs in illume that its not usable - will try again in a few days so it would still be nice to know whats needed to turn these minimal images into something usable. BillK On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 13:34 +, Alastair Johnson wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: Ive been trying testing out and after 3 days, Ive finally gotten a pin dialog and was able to register. However, what files do I need to install to get audio. On one flash I installed everything alsa and was able to stream audio via mplayer, but still none in the dialler. I am after a minimal set of files to simply testing each version out so I just want to know the minimum needed to get it to work. Which image? Openmoko, FSO and SHR all have 'testing' repos. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-) I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS variable in /etc/X11/Xserver. Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again. basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor not visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an attempt at this in the window manager by setting root cursor to blank or visible BUT amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on their own windows or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text areas) and the root cursor is overridden here - thus the global disable option to not have to go patching every app/toolkit and still possibly get a cursor. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus? it seems to me that reading continuously from them without appropriate timing could be heavy for the battery. more, having to do the decoding part from each application who uses the sensor is complicated and error prone, while having a signal for the position change, with x,y,z already decoded would simplify a lot the coding (and encourage it).. BTW, very good idea and good and readable code (i didn't test it, but reading the code i thougth this: shouldn't the lines 55 and 56 be unindented of 1 space? actually they intercept only the first call, and if there is a second call you have to turn it up and then down.. is that wanted? or maybe i just didn't read well the code and it is correct.. in this case just ignore the question :)) roby On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazing work! Can we drag it into the 'examples' folder in FSO? Btw., note that once we have some missing glue done, we'll have signals like EnterArea and LeaveArea for GPS (and more), so use-cases like yours should be expressable via simple rules in our rules file. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. - Guillaume/Charlie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. BUT, it makes me realize a problem : the rules manager only activates the rules that are specified in the rules preference file (e.g [0]) So if you add a new rule with a name, the rule won't be activated unless you also specify that the rule is activated in the preference file. that is not very good and we need to solve this problem. cheers, Guillaume [0] : http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/rules/default.yaml;h=e0066eff76973b5597d879bf81b0e0f490660bdb;hb=HEAD signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community