Re: Arrrgh !
I did this several times while getting my SE/30 online...it was scary! If I recall correctly, the problem was the version of Mode32 I had installed - are you using that, yet? The solution in my case was to zap the PRAM (command-apple-P-R during boot), then boot from a System 7 floppy, then zap the PRAM again (somehow booting from 7.1 un-hoses the PRAM zapping process) to reset the boot parameters, then boot from the HD with extensions disabled (hold down shift while booting). On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Mike wrote: With many thanks to Stuart for the loan of his Torx, I finally got my Asante ethernet card installed, link light lit looking good. However, I then decided to upgrade from 7.0.1 to 7.1 using shrinkwrapped (mounted) images on the desktop, install seemed to be going fine, then after a series of beeps the SE rebooted itself, and now all I get is a floppy disk icon with a question mark ! Help me I have goosed my Mac ! The attached Zip drive is obviously ruled out, and the SE is the 800k floppy model, which seems to rule out a rescue using transmac. How could I have been so dumb ?! Does anyone have any ideas on how to get a system back ? Thanks Mike :- -- Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Arrrgh !
However, I then decided to upgrade from 7.0.1 to 7.1 using shrinkwrapped (mounted) images on the desktop, install seemed to be going fine, then after a series of beeps the SE rebooted itself, and now all I get is a floppy disk icon with a question mark ! Does anyone have any ideas on how to get a system back ? It sounds like the installer crashed before completing the installation. Therefore installed system is corrupted. If you don't have a boot floppy then I don't know what to tell you. If you do, then boot from it and trash the HD system folder and copy the floppy system folder over to the hard drive. Disk First Aid on that boot floppy would be a good idea, to run it on the HD before trying next system installer. Gamba -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Arrrgh !
Thanks for the replies. I did not have Mode32 installed (does that run on an SE anyway ?). What is stored in the PRAM ? Anything like a PC bios ? I have now checked my limited stock of floppies, not a bootable disk between them ! Gamba, are you saying that maybe my Harddisk is damaged in some way ? Bad sectors perhaps, maybe that would explain the crash on installation. Any UK lists members here that could sell me a set of bootable 800k disks ? Thanks Mike - Original Message - From: Jacob Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Arrrgh ! I did this several times while getting my SE/30 online...it was scary! If I recall correctly, the problem was the version of Mode32 I had installed - are you using that, yet? The solution in my case was to zap the PRAM (command-apple-P-R during boot), then boot from a System 7 floppy, then zap the PRAM again (somehow booting from 7.1 un-hoses the PRAM zapping process) to reset the boot parameters, then boot from the HD with extensions disabled (hold down shift while booting). On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Mike wrote: With many thanks to Stuart for the loan of his Torx, I finally got my Asante ethernet card installed, link light lit looking good. However, I then decided to upgrade from 7.0.1 to 7.1 using shrinkwrapped (mounted) images on the desktop, install seemed to be going fine, then after a series of beeps the SE rebooted itself, and now all I get is a floppy disk icon with a question mark ! Help me I have goosed my Mac ! The attached Zip drive is obviously ruled out, and the SE is the 800k floppy model, which seems to rule out a rescue using transmac. How could I have been so dumb ?! Does anyone have any ideas on how to get a system back ? Thanks Mike :- -- Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Arrrgh !
My Reply follows quote. On 26/09/2003 15:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is stored in the PRAM ? Anything like a PC bios ? Settings like time/date, certain preferences such as mouse scroll speed, some network (I think) settings. The PC bios is more like the Mac ROM that carries the essential routines to access parts of the circuit board, drives, etc. Ken -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Arrrgh !
on 9/26/03 4:33 PM, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 26/09/2003 15:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is stored in the PRAM ? Anything like a PC bios ? Settings like time/date, certain preferences such as mouse scroll speed, some network (I think) settings. The PC bios is more like the Mac ROM that carries the essential routines to access parts of the circuit board, drives, etc. Ken AND certain settings related to the motherboard services and peripherals. Time and date, too. Jeff -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Arrrgh !
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:33:56 -0700 From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Reply follows quote. On 26/09/2003 15:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is stored in the PRAM ? Anything like a PC bios ? Settings like time/date, certain preferences such as mouse scroll speed, some network (I think) settings. The PC bios is more like the Mac ROM that carries the essential routines to access parts of the circuit board, drives, etc. And the PC part analogous to PRAM is usually called the CMOS settings. I think because the settings were stored in low power CMOS memory and battery powered. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Arrrgh !
Thanks for the replies. I did not have Mode32 installed (does that run on an SE anyway ?). No it doesn't Gamba, are you saying that maybe my Harddisk is damaged in some way ? Bad sectors perhaps, maybe that would explain the crash on installation. Probably not bad sectors if it was working OK before. But it's worthwhile checking that out too, with Apple HD SC Setup, which has a test mode. HD SC Setup would be on the same Disk Tools floppy that has Disk First Aid. Disk First Aid checks for file directory errors. HD SC Setup checks for hardware integrity. It's always a good idea to run both of them before installing new system software. Gamba -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
