Re: [CGUYS] recording sound cassette tape to mp3 -- how to??
Do not use the microphone input unless your source in monophonic. The microphone input accepts only monophonic input. Elaine Zablocki wrote: At 05:52 PM 4/29/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Have you tried using Audacity for recording? I've had excellent results with it. Windows/Mac/Linux http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ I haven't tried audacity, and I'll go look at it. Did you set the input source? Yes, I did in jet audio... I'm not sure whether I did in sound editor. The microphone was still plugged in to the sound card ... would that be a problem? If I unplug the microphone, might that make a difference? Are you sure your sound card is capable of taking input? The sound card is a RealTek AC97 Audio, I believe. I know it can hear incoming audio from the microphone. Aside from that, I don't know how to test it. My local computer guy is coming over to add some RAM in the next few days, and I may need to ask him to check out some of these questions * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] recording sound cassette tape to mp3 -- how to??
At 05:52 PM 4/29/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Have you tried using Audacity for recording? I've had excellent results with it. Windows/Mac/Linux http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ I haven't tried audacity, and I'll go look at it. Did you set the input source? Yes, I did in jet audio... I'm not sure whether I did in sound editor. The microphone was still plugged in to the sound card ... would that be a problem? If I unplug the microphone, might that make a difference? Are you sure your sound card is capable of taking input? The sound card is a RealTek AC97 Audio, I believe. I know it can hear incoming audio from the microphone. Aside from that, I don't know how to test it. My local computer guy is coming over to add some RAM in the next few days, and I may need to ask him to check out some of these questions * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] recording sound cassette tape to mp3 -- how to??
Have you tried using Audacity for recording? I've had excellent results with it. Windows/Mac/Linux http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Did you set the input source? Are you sure your sound card is capable of taking input? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of
I have two of those oversized calculators that I got on sale for $1 each. A few of those could work. You may find other parts inside that can be useful on other projects. I have some left over solar panels from AstroPower that are 6x6 and 8x8 that I use to recharge batteries for outdoor lights, but I forgot about the tiny calc cells. Thanks for the reminder. Any idea how to wire an LED to the cell? Where to solder? Pix? Oh it's so much fun to take things apart and rearrange them [when it works]!! Dan, PLEASE tell us how you solve this. Betty >My questions would be: How big physically would a solar cell be that >was capable of providing power for LED's and where would one look for >such and are they terribly expensive? Radio Shack. $5 Can produce 300ma @ 0.5 volts. $15 Can produce 50ma @ 6.0 volts. I have an old calculator that is powered by 5 cells in series. It cost about $5 and works in fairly dim light. Finding something like this might be cheaper than buying parts. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of
>My first reaction was to use solar cells, but that could require wires. >Can the solar cells be attached directly to the LEDs in ice, and still >generate the tiny bit of power for the LED? It's worth trying. Won't it >need resistors? Not if the internal resistance of the battery is sufficient to limit the current. The resistor is only needed if you need to limit the current flow. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] recording sound cassette tape to mp3 -- how to??
Hi Elaine! I have experience with exactly the same issue and the cause, in my case, was that the "Line In" channel was muted in my softwares mixer. Check the audio mixer in your recording software. The "Line In" probably has it's own channel with a slider control. Make sure it is not muted and that the slider control is set well into positive volume. Also Double check the "Line Out" setting on your tape deck and make sure that works. It may have its own volume control so make sure that is turned up. Make sure that the audio cable you are using is good. You can check the Windows sound settings in XP by right clicking on the speaker icon in the task tray and select "Adjust Audio Properties" or go to Control Panel, Sounds and Audio Devices. Make sure that "Line In' Is not muted or anything and the volume slider is in positive territory. Also, through Control Panel, you can go to system, hardware devices, sound and audio devices and from there select your sound card and under properties you can set Windows to use the mixer features your sound card has, if any. Please let us know if you have success or need further help. Clear skies, John J Settle (longitude 76W 56' 30.34", latitude 38N 57' 22.06") * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of
The cells on my lights are about three inch circles. On 4/29/07, db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, in the evening but the concept here is we could keep it charged by shining a light on it in the off hours ... which would be considerable... so that the LED's would light when during display time... My questions would be: How big physically would a solar cell be that was capable of providing power for LED's and where would one look for such and are they terribly expensive? db Tony B wrote: > This might work if there was a lot of sunlight, but it seems to me the > main effect of this sculpture would occur at night. > > >> >Without the use of wires running to the outside, I want to be able to >> >turn the LED circuit off and on to save power. >> >> Don't power it with a battey. A solar cell is probably the best way >> since >> it will not produce much heat. To run LEDs you should not need a lot of >> current so normal room lighting should be sufficient to energize the >> solar cells.. > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] recording sound cassette tape to mp3 -- how to??
Have you checked the recording sound level? Separate from the listening level. Here's how: Control Panel>Sounds and Audio Devices>Select Audio tab>Click on Sound Recording volume button. You can first check "What you hear" and then adjust the volume. If not this, then maybe something is wrong with the wire from the tape deck to the computer. Elaine Zablocki wrote: I have some audiotapes of people speaking that I want to turn into sound files. I have a tape deck. I play the tape, and listen with headphones, and the tape is playing correctly. I have a cable from the "line out" of the tape deck to the "line in" of the computer soundcard. However this doesn't seem to be working. I have jetAudio on my computer. I have Roxio Creator 7 on my computer, and it includes a sound editor. However, nothing seems to "hear" the sound on the "line in." Could someone give me some idea of how this is supposed to work? Do I need different software? Is there some setting in Windows that I need to turn on? I'm using windows XP home service pack two. When I listen to an internet radio station on my computer, I can record it with no problems, using Jet Audio. When I want to dictate a few sentences, I can record them with no problems, using a microphone plugged into the sound card, plus the sound editor. What is the correct way to record "line-in"? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of
>My questions would be: How big physically would a solar cell be that >was capable of providing power for LED's and where would one look for >such and are they terribly expensive? Radio Shack. $5 Can produce 300ma @ 0.5 volts. $15 Can produce 50ma @ 6.0 volts. I have an old calculator that is powered by 5 cells in series. It cost about $5 and works in fairly dim light. Finding something like this might be cheaper than buying parts. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of
>Without the use of wires running to the outside, I want to be able to >turn the LED circuit off and on to save power. Don't power it with a battey. A solar cell is probably the best way since it will not produce much heat. To run LEDs you should not need a lot of current so normal room lighting should be sufficient to energize the solar cells.. My first reaction was to use solar cells, but that could require wires. Can the solar cells be attached directly to the LEDs in ice, and still generate the tiny bit of power for the LED? It's worth trying. Won't it need resistors? I used to make sculptures using cast polyester resin with transparent fiberglass cable embedded in it to provide lighting. The fiber ends had colored lenses. Only the ends of the fiber emit light through the lenses. I'd consider using "Throwies" minus the magnets. They can stay lit for about a month. I've seen them outdoors in NYC in the winter, so they should stay lit in ice, but not sure how long at 0 degrees C. They're cheap to make with button batteries and bright LED bulbs if you get the batteries in bulk or at a dollar store. LEDs come in several colors and brightness. I haven't found a cheap source for rare earth magnets, but you shouldn't need them for the sculpture. They also don't need a switch, but will stay lit longer if you can switch them off. Throwies: http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=6 Betty * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] recording sound cassette tape to mp3 -- how to??
I have some audiotapes of people speaking that I want to turn into sound files. I have a tape deck. I play the tape, and listen with headphones, and the tape is playing correctly. I have a cable from the "line out" of the tape deck to the "line in" of the computer soundcard. However this doesn't seem to be working. I have jetAudio on my computer. I have Roxio Creator 7 on my computer, and it includes a sound editor. However, nothing seems to "hear" the sound on the "line in." Could someone give me some idea of how this is supposed to work? Do I need different software? Is there some setting in Windows that I need to turn on? I'm using windows XP home service pack two. When I listen to an internet radio station on my computer, I can record it with no problems, using Jet Audio. When I want to dictate a few sentences, I can record them with no problems, using a microphone plugged into the sound card, plus the sound editor. What is the correct way to record "line-in"? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Off topic-political
Unfortunately, I think the "common ground" you speak of is, at root, the absence of critical thinking, related to - an at best - ambivalence about the value of truth. The real "inconvenient truth" is that truth itself is very often inconvenient. We worship many other considerations above the truth or trying to understand things through reason, yet we are generally not even honest about this. When we do not value apprehending reality (as best as possible, better than our current or given understanding) as a bedrock, fundamental governing value or principle (of individuals, societies, nations) then we are too easily satisfied with the "given" - with the way things are, what we hear or see or are told, with explanations, with things at face value. When we are satisfied, for whatever reason, we aren't skeptical and we don't ask questions. When we don't ask questions, we are not thinking critically. When we don't think critically, we are not using reason and we also are easily manipulated and fooled by language. When others deliberately use language to obfuscate reality or for some other purpose than elucidating reality, this is rhetoric. We also readily deceive ourselves with language, including the "language" of mathematics, such as with statistics. All of us fall prey to this to some extent, some of the time. Even the most brilliant scientists, who may engage in critical thinking as a high art in the narrow questions they pursue do not necessarily think critically in general, across all domains, issues, important societal problems, discourse, etc. My best guess is that the vast majority of people, certainly in this country, only engage in regular critical thinking in limited, sporadic ways, such as in their job or certain areas of interest or when critiquing some "other" (group, party, person, position, etc.) or in certain circumstances or with certain people. When it comes to public discourse on public policy and important social or political issues, real critical thinking, on both or all sides, is rare, though few would probably agree that this is true for "their side." That failure to engage in self-critical examination is itself a failure of critical thinking. Anyway, better stop, as computer keeps freezing and better get outside while the sun is still out on this beautiful day. Or before I get tarred and feathered here! Randall - Original Message - From: "Stewart A. Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Off topic-political > That is usually how it is viewed. > > My church body has had a right left battle going for about 50 years or more. > > Having seen some stuff from the right and from the left, I can assure > you they are mirror images. > > If they would spend some time listening to each other (which they > usually don't) and trying to walk a mile in their shoes they might > come down from their holy mountains and find some common ground. > > Usually that is not to be and the common ground is left standing vacant. > > Those of us who stand in the middle are very numerous, just very > quiet. (at least quieter than the extremes.) > > Stewart > > > At 12:29 AM 4/29/2007, you wrote: >>No, no Rev, you've got it all wrong. >> >>Your side is brilliant, honest, forthright, righteous, of the highest ethics >>and above reproach. >> >>The other side is evil, stupid and/or ignorant, dishonest, sleazy and always >>up to something no good. >> >>And, above all, you are never a partisan, just the other guy. >> >>Most importantly though, if you don't believe in the same thing, you're the >>other guy from the other side. >> >> > -Original Message- >> > It goes both ways both left and right. >> > >> > The Radical Right is just as bad as the radical left. They are >> > really mirror images of each other. >> > >> > Stewart > > Rev. Stewart A. Marshall > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org > Ozark, AL SL 82 > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > -- > No virus found in this incomi
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of
This might work if there was a lot of sunlight, but it seems to me the main effect of this sculpture would occur at night. >Without the use of wires running to the outside, I want to be able to >turn the LED circuit off and on to save power. Don't power it with a battey. A solar cell is probably the best way since it will not produce much heat. To run LEDs you should not need a lot of current so normal room lighting should be sufficient to energize the solar cells.. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Off topic-policical
A secular Amen. Critical thinking is almost entirely absent from public discourse and thinking on important societal issues - across the board, across the political spectrum. Liberals tend to think their discourse and positions are based on reason and critical thinking, but not so for conservatives. Conservatives tend to think they are critical thinkers, but that Liberals are not. Both see their positions as moral, and the others' positions as often being immoral. Obviously, this is a generalization and there is overlap and a lot of people sort of in the middle, but this is the general character of the public discourse. As long as most focus on important problems being the fault of some "other" rather than the result of the more pervasive, deeper, more fundamental problem of the devaluing and general failure to pursue truth through reason (critical thinking) we will remain mired in these problems and continue to allow new ones to be emerge. It is a basic problem of our species, not just this or that group or political affiliation. I realize this is way off topic, but since this thread has generated some comments, guess I will join in, since I have recently been developing 2 theories related to this and have been thinking and writing about this a lot in the process. Randall - Original Message - From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Off topic-policical > It goes both ways both left and right. > > The Radical Right is just as bad as the radical left. They are > really mirror images of each other. > > Stewart > > > 08:40 PM 4/28/2007, you wrote: >>I suspect that a lot of people don't have the time or inclination to >>find out if what they hear is true. It is to your credit that you do try. >>Many people who watch Fox do not know that they are right leaning, >>sometimes radically so. These people are not stupid. They just don't >>know any better, for a host of different reasons. Knowing what our >>country has become, such ignorance is almost unforgivable. At this >>point polls are showing that most people who choose to watch Fox are >>right wing ideologues. >> >>In the last few years, even NPR has been penetrated by the right. >> >>Several of the media I mentioned previously are not out to make >>money. They are subsidized by radical right wing millionaires. They >>are part of the Republican noise machine. >> >>If you are curious, check out >>http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2004/09/09_400.html > > Rev. Stewart A. Marshall > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Prince of Peace > Ozark, AL SL 82 > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/777 - Release Date: 4/26/2007 3:23 > PM > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of
>Without the use of wires running to the outside, I want to be able to >turn the LED circuit off and on to save power. Don't power it with a battey. A solar cell is probably the best way since it will not produce much heat. To run LEDs you should not need a lot of current so normal room lighting should be sufficient to energize the solar cells.. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of ice?
The lights would be at least 6 to 8 inches in from the outside surface. Not sure about the light circuits yet. We'd prefer to make up cluster of lights individually switched but probably the switching complexity would require that we connect them all together to one switch... db rocky lee wrote: Hey db, How far inside the ice will you put the lights? Will the the LCDs be connected by wires in a circuit to a single power source? Rocky Date:Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:47:08 -0700 From:db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: DC powered remote control switch buried in block of ice? We will be making a large ice sculpture (1 ft x 4ft x 6 ft. block) frozen for 3 weeks with some LED lights buried internally (the lights will be powered by lithium polymer batteries (90% power at 0 degrees) buried with them). Without the use of wires running to the outside, I want to be able to turn the LED circuit off and on to save power. What remote control switching technology does anyone suggest I use? Radio, IR, etc. ? This situation is kind of a backwards from the usual battery powered remote control device switching a 110v powered receiving device such as in TV's and garage door openers. In my case, inside the ice, a low powered receiver needs to control a low powered switch that powers the LED's on and off... the external controller outside the block of ice can be battery powered or 110v. (Walking up close to the sculpture with the control device is no problem) The problem I suspect is that the switch's allways on receiver would be more consumptive of power than the LEDs I am trying to switch on and off. Any advice anyone can give me re: the appropriate technology and components I might use will be greatly appreciated It just occurred to me that maybe some kind of timer would work rather than a remote switching capability... ? db __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] sensitivity to electronic devices...and bees
What we don't know about basic biology is almost certainly more than we think. On the same, lines is the idea that deciphering the human genome represents a big turning point in our understanding is amusing. >From what I can tell, what it really does is to better frame our ignorance of how DNA works. b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Found this linked from digg. Tells the story of a woman claiming to be > completely unable to take electronic devices...she says wifi networks are > the worst. She's been home bound for 2 years...is it me or is this easily > proved/disproved? Seems like she likes the attention too much. Can't vouch for her, but I can feel some electrical fields when in close proximity. I can also hear some kinds of radiation, but that's partly from tinnitus [too many rock concerts]. I can definitely feel the change in atmospheric charge from negative to positive before an electrical storm--kind of like people with arthritis feeling the change in barometric pressure when the weather changes. Since some kinds of animals are sensitive to magnetism, it's not surprising that people can be sensitive to microwaves. Some older people can see ultraviolet light, but most people can't. It does seem a bit much that the woman in the story is completely house bound, wearing a Faraday cage or EMF shielding fabric to go outside. She might have any number of other diseases that she's ignoring while concentrating on waves. With her outfit, scientists can study her, and maybe she can find the missing bees... Betty * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] sensitivity to electronic devices
On the point the we are "snowflakes" ("gentle snowflakes" according
to Lewis Black) was the NPR piece on med students who learn
the every-body is different. E.g., working on a normal cadaver and
seeing the the left elbow joint looked like a textbook drawing (something
rare in and of itself) and then upon dissecting the right elbow, finding it was
unrecognizable to them.
Alvin Auerbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know if it's been proved or
disproved, but it's within the
realm of possibility.
First of all, while all human beings are "sort of" alike, in fact, we
are each a bit different from the other.
Recall that when drug companies test a new drug and find that in,
say, 1000 people tested, there are no severe side effects; when it is
put on the market and 10,000 or 100,000 people or more are using it,
often very severe side effects are discovered.
Now about the effects of radio frequency electromagnetic radiation:
Recall that your microwave oven is tuned to the resonant frequency of
water molecules, and those molecules readily absorb that energy. It
is conceivable that other molecules in the body are absorbing energy
all of the time, but the "Q" or resonant gain of the molecules are
low. Suppose that one in
500,000 individuals have a variant of some molecule that happens to
have a very high Q at some radio frequency.
A personal story: I was temporarily doing work in the very high field
strength close to a radar. So high that when a ball point pen was
dragged and skipped along a metal surface, it would draw very
palpable arcs. A person who worked in that field many times, asked
me, "Do you hear it?" I said, "Hear what?" He said, "Well, some
people hear it and some don't." I shrugged my shoulders and went
about my work. A few minutes later, I jumped up and said, "I hear it,
I hear it!" Somewhere in my head, I was detecting the RF, and I heard
the rep rate of the radar. "Dzzit, Dzzit, ..."
"Well, some people hear it and some don't." Not everyone was
affected, but I sure was!
>Found this linked from digg. Tells the story of a woman claiming to be
>completely unable to take electronic devices...she says wifi networks are
>the worst. She's been home bound for 2 years...is it me or is this easily
>proved/disproved? Seems like she likes the attention too much.
>
>mike
>
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=450995&in_page_id=1879
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Off topic-political
Jeff, I actually liked this post. Jeff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, no Rev, you've got it all wrong. Your side is brilliant, honest, forthright, righteous, of the highest ethics and above reproach. The other side is evil, stupid and/or ignorant, dishonest, sleazy and always up to something no good. And, above all, you are never a partisan, just the other guy. Most importantly though, if you don't believe in the same thing, you're the other guy from the other side. > -Original Message- > It goes both ways both left and right. > > The Radical Right is just as bad as the radical left. They are > really mirror images of each other. > > Stewart * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Off topic-policical
Stewart, that may be a comforting formulation but it deserves some inspection. What one means by "radical" is slippery. Though no matter how you structure the definition you typically find the institutional measure of organizational strength (periodical circulation, affiliate elected officials, donations) you typically find the Right ten or a hundred times more significant than the Left. You may find their opinions equally offensive but it would be a mistake to see them as equally threatening. Secondly, what constitutes the ideological center in this country is significantly more to the right than it is in comparable countries (i.e., rich industrial democracies). There is generally no accepted explanation in academy [cultural reasons as an argument doesn't cut it for a variety of reasons- I could suggest lots of structural-institution reasons but I don't want to bore]. The reason I raise this is to suggest that what passes for middle-of-the-road-common-sense in the U.S. might not be all it is cracked up to be. Of course, as a person of faith you are probably well aware of that. Thanks for the opportunity to vent about one of my least favorite adages among those that are arguably have some truth to them. "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It goes both ways both left and right. The Radical Right is just as bad as the radical left. They are really mirror images of each other. Stewart 08:40 PM 4/28/2007, you wrote: >I suspect that a lot of people don't have the time or inclination to >find out if what they hear is true. It is to your credit that you do try. >Many people who watch Fox do not know that they are right leaning, >sometimes radically so. These people are not stupid. They just don't >know any better, for a host of different reasons. Knowing what our >country has become, such ignorance is almost unforgivable. At this >point polls are showing that most people who choose to watch Fox are >right wing ideologues. > >In the last few years, even NPR has been penetrated by the right. > >Several of the media I mentioned previously are not out to make >money. They are subsidized by radical right wing millionaires. They >are part of the Republican noise machine. > >If you are curious, check out >http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2004/09/09_400.html Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones
The fact that Fox channels GOP talking points like Madame effing Blavatsky is disheartening. I would find that obnoxious in a "liberal" or "mainstream" paper. Any ideological tendency might be worth hearing if the source shows some independent thought and willingness to look at evidence. What's the point however if they replace their mission of gathering and analyzing evidence with the job of helping to rule the country. I don't read the Times so I can't comment but its disrepute seems to reach beyond the ideological bias (I don't think much of Christian Science - apologies in advance - but people generally don't doubt CSM's credibiility, and you can make the same argument about WSJ or the Economist on political lines). John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/28/07, mike wrote: > > Weren't you supposed to change the topic to 'slam newspaper cause it > doesn't > agree with my idealogical bias' ? > That may well be true, but do you know anyone that feels they can trust the reporting of Washington Times, or who believes that Fox News is "fair and balanced"? The problems are not that every reporter is biased, in fact there are very good news reporters in both organizations. The problems are in how they are managed. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of ice?
I have no idea how to help answer your question. What I'd like to know is where can I see the sculpture when it's done? John On Apr 28, 2007, at 9:47 PM, db wrote: We will be making a large ice sculpture (1 ft x 4ft x 6 ft. block) frozen for 3 weeks with some LED lights buried internally (the lights will be powered by lithium polymer batteries (90% power at 0 degrees) buried with them). Without the use of wires running to the outside, I want to be able to turn the LED circuit off and on to save power. What remote control switching technology does anyone suggest I use? Radio, IR, etc. ? This situation is kind of a backwards from the usual battery powered remote control device switching a 110v powered receiving device such as in TV's and garage door openers. In my case, inside the ice, a low powered receiver needs to control a low powered switch that powers the LED's on and off... the external controller outside the block of ice can be battery powered or 110v. (Walking up close to the sculpture with the control device is no problem) The problem I suspect is that the switch's allways on receiver would be more consumptive of power than the LEDs I am trying to switch on and off. Any advice anyone can give me re: the appropriate technology and components I might use will be greatly appreciated It just occurred to me that maybe some kind of timer would work rather than a remote switching capability... ? db * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Off topic-Political
I gave some insights based on sociological studies, researched and confirmed facts, and scientific polls, and you offer platitudes, talking points, and untruths. In the passed 12 years, the political middle has been pushed further and further to the right. I live in a part of PA considered to be the Alabama of PA. I know what these people think, they are happy to talk about it, and what they use to shape their reality. Rush Limbaugh is involved. And they don't just think he's funny. They believe what he says, though some won't admit it. In order to maintain a degree of relative metal health, we all seek to find a reality we can live in. Others are belligerently ignorant, in an effort to hide fear. There has been considerable study of this behavior. If you are curious, check out this book, which can be read online: http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/ I'm just touching on some of what can be learned about what is happening to our society and why. This is scary stuff, but it's important. I suspect that a lot of people don't have the time or inclination to find out if what they hear is true. It is to your credit that you do try. Many people who watch Fox do not know that they are right leaning, sometimes radically so. These people are not stupid. They just don't know any better, for a host of different reasons. Knowing what our country has become, such ignorance is almost unforgivable. At this point polls are showing that most people who choose to watch Fox are right wing ideologues. In the last few years, even NPR has been penetrated by the right. Several of the media I mentioned previously are not out to make money. They are subsidized by radical right wing millionaires. They are part of the Republican noise machine. If you are curious, check out http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2004/09/09_400.html * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of ice?
I'd worry about the heat. LED's *do* produce heat, and if the battery is inside the ice it'll produce even more. Probably be lots easier to have the power supply in the base. Clever wire placement would be called for, but I suspect hiding the wire would be much easier than hiding a large sealed battery compartment and a waterproofed receiver switch. Anyway, these days the place to find things like this is Ebay e.g.: http://tinyurl.com/23ast4 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DC powered remote control switch buried in block of ice?
Hey db, How far inside the ice will you put the lights? Will the the LCDs be connected by wires in a circuit to a single power source? Rocky Date:Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:47:08 -0700 From:db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: DC powered remote control switch buried in block of ice? We will be making a large ice sculpture (1 ft x 4ft x 6 ft. block) frozen for 3 weeks with some LED lights buried internally (the lights will be powered by lithium polymer batteries (90% power at 0 degrees) buried with them). Without the use of wires running to the outside, I want to be able to turn the LED circuit off and on to save power. What remote control switching technology does anyone suggest I use? Radio, IR, etc. ? This situation is kind of a backwards from the usual battery powered remote control device switching a 110v powered receiving device such as in TV's and garage door openers. In my case, inside the ice, a low powered receiver needs to control a low powered switch that powers the LED's on and off... the external controller outside the block of ice can be battery powered or 110v. (Walking up close to the sculpture with the control device is no problem) The problem I suspect is that the switch's allways on receiver would be more consumptive of power than the LEDs I am trying to switch on and off. Any advice anyone can give me re: the appropriate technology and components I might use will be greatly appreciated It just occurred to me that maybe some kind of timer would work rather than a remote switching capability... ? db __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Off topic-political
At 12:40 AM -0500 4/29/07, Stewart A. Marshall wrote: ... Usually that is not to be and the common ground is left standing vacant. Those of us who stand in the middle are very numerous, just very quiet. (at least quieter than the extremes.) Amen! -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
