Re: [CGUYS] best antivirus software
While the interface for AVG is clumsy, I like the fact that it just sits there and does its thing without my having to get involved. It updates itself daily, and I have not had an incidence of a virus or malware in the several years I have been using it. (I have half a dozen machines running Win98SE and two with XP pro, all with AVG.) I should also point out that, with a router/firewall and a couple of free anti spyware applications running, I see almost on indication of problems. On my older, slower, machines, when AVG is doing its scan, it slows down the machine very noticeably, but I suspect that on a faster machine the overhead might not be so noticeable. I try to schedule the scans for when I am not doing anything. I haven't used Norton for 10 years, so I can't comment beyond relating that I have not heard anything good about the product since then. Mike rlsimon wrote: I see 2 folks recommended AVG/Grisoft ...some time back I threw up my hands with Norton and went with Avast ...any comparisons or thoughts? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4
Don't waste your time with Safari, it's a bad browser. I will spare you a diatribe on just how bad it is. Although I am not personally a Mac user, I can still confidently recommend Camino (http://caminobrowser.org/) as the way to immensely improve your browsing experience. You'll never go back. snip Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4. Why? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4
I have never understood the glowing talk of Apple's superpower browser, Safari. I have always thought it was lame and featureless. (although according to the stats, I guess it is fast.)Indeed Camino has a similar presentation, but is clearly superior to Safari to me. I use it for a specific task. There were new features I was curious about so I downloaded the 3.0.3 (beta?)version and it simply upgraded my 2.? version. I haven't experimented with it yet. I use Firefox and Seamonkey heavily and I don't think anything compares . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't waste your time with Safari, it's a bad browser. I will spare you a diatribe on just how bad it is. Although I am not personally a Mac user, I can still confidently recommend Camino (http://caminobrowser.org/) as the way to immensely improve your browsing experience. You'll never go back. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
I've been reading that this is not a major release, I'm wondering what denotes it as major for those mac users on the list thinking of getting it? Mike On 10/26/07, Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two computers running 10.3.9. One is a ~6 yr old Titanium PowerBook that is too slow for Leopard, 10.5. So it will die with 10.3.9. The other is a dual 2 GHz G5 desktop, currently running 10.3.9 that I will upgrade to 10.5 after I read about other people's experience with 10.5 and G5 computers. Other than wait a bit to hear other people's experience and backup everything (easy, it has two disk drives), any advice? It has been a while since I jumped over a major OS release! Thank you, Mark Snyder * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Opera: Was ( Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4)
Have you tried Opera? I find it the best browser for information gathering that I have used on any platform. I do use Camino for banking and some shopping when they can't handle Opera, but that is less and less common. On Oct 26, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Jordan wrote: I use Firefox and Seamonkey heavily and I don't think anything compares . * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
Is 10.4.11 for the dual Macs? I have the updater set to run everyday and I'm only at 10.4.10 on my iMac G5. It's not a dual. Since I just got a new Powerbook I was able to order 10.5 for the price of shipping. After watching the movie on Apples website I'd say it is a major upgrade. Not as major as 9.x to 10, but still... Jeff M On Oct 26, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) wrote: Apple focuses on a few big new features along with many small improvements in each major release. The fix releases, 10.4.0 through 10.4.11, for example are free updates to 10.4. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
10.4.11 has not yet been released, but is imminent. Last update for 10.4 (planned anyway). Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Is 10.4.11 for the dual Macs? I have the updater set to run everyday and I'm only at 10.4.10 on my iMac G5. It's not a dual. Since I just got a new Powerbook I was able to order 10.5 for the price of shipping. After watching the movie on Apples website I'd say it is a major upgrade. Not as major as 9.x to 10, but still... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
I am hoping that the release of 10.5 will finally bring down the price of 10.4 on eBay, so I can upgrade my 10.3.9 G4 machine. People are paying what I consider to be CRAZY prices for 10.4. I have set my price point at ~$50. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] least invasive Anti Virus
I do not mind paying for an AV package, I just do not want one that bogs the system down, does not allow some activities, etc. I have used a number of versions of norton and macafee, and both were very invasive. they were cheap. but I would not mind paying for a decent piece of software. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
If 10.4 saved you 5 minutes a day, would it not be worth the $100 they want for it? or is your time that invaluable? 10.5 is only $109, including SH. seems like a decent value to me. why buy 10.4 for 50? or do g-4's not run 10.5? I'm new to macs, and am not allowed to touch the thing i bought for my wife(other than to install more memory). At 02:48 PM 10/26/2007, you wrote: I am hoping that the release of 10.5 will finally bring down the price of 10.4 on eBay, so I can upgrade my 10.3.9 G4 machine. People are paying what I consider to be CRAZY prices for 10.4. I have set my price point at ~$50. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] non-iPod MP3 player for Mac
I'm looking for an MP3 player for a Mac that isn't an iPod. I know that a lot of people think iPod are the bee's knees - I have slightly different needs. I have a Mac laptop with a 120GB hard drive, currently I have ~10GB of of tunes. I have ~15GB of free space - I still haven't ripped/loaded the other 30GB of tunes. Hmmm, I haven't mentioned video, video is lots bigger. My plan is to keep most/all of the music/video on external drives (multiple copies at multiple locations) - most of the video is already there. My understanding is that iTunes wants all of the stuff for the iPod on the computer all of the time. Is that understanding correct? I mainly want to listen to music/podcasts and not watch videos. I suppose videos on trips would be nice, but that would be added benefit not a requirement. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly C code. C code run. Run, code, run ... PLEASE! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] least invasive Anti Virus
I never met anyone who actually paid money for software ...it's indeed a pleasure to broaden my life experience ...I wonder if there are any others out there?? ;^) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4
Personally I have a number of browsers on my Mac, but my favorite is OmniWeb. I highly recommend it to all Mac users (sorry there is no Windows version). It is a powerful and easy to use browser. Check it out at: http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/ Steve Alvin Auerbach wrote: I had Safari 2.0.4 installed on my iMac G5. I installed Safari 3 Beta over it. I liked it, but had some problems. I trashed it and went back to Safari 2.0 from my original install disks. Apple Software Update did not update Safari 2.0 to 2.0.4. On Apple's web site, only 2.0.1 and 3 Beta are available. Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4. Autofill did not work in Safari 2.0. I tried everything that I could think of, it would not work. I called Apple Tech Support and spent one and one half to two hours with them, while they had me jump through one hoop after another, and nothing worked. I asked why update didn't work and why 2.0.4 was not available; they didn't know. Finally, they said that my framework for Safari is damaged, and I must archive and install the OS all over again, then reinstall Safari 2.0, and everything will be fine. I did not want to do this. I searched the web and found someone who had 2.0.4 available for download. I downloaded it, installed it, and Autofill worked the first time that I tried it. Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4. Why? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
I often would skip a major upgrade. Apple does it in such a way that you have no problems skipping a generation of the OS. I would feel perfectly safe in going from 10.3.9 to 10.5. Steve Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) wrote: I have two computers running 10.3.9. One is a ~6 yr old Titanium PowerBook that is too slow for Leopard, 10.5. So it will die with 10.3.9. The other is a dual 2 GHz G5 desktop, currently running 10.3.9 that I will upgrade to 10.5 after I read about other people's experience with 10.5 and G5 computers. Other than wait a bit to hear other people's experience and backup everything (easy, it has two disk drives), any advice? It has been a while since I jumped over a major OS release! Thank you, Mark Snyder * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] non-iPod MP3 player for Mac
You can make your iTunes directory use an external drive. So using an iPod with iTunes should work fine. You can also choose to have iTunes leave your media where it is, so you could keep music on one drive and video on another if you like. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Oct 26, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for an MP3 player for a Mac that isn't an iPod. I know that a lot of people think iPod are the bee's knees - I have slightly different needs. I have a Mac laptop with a 120GB hard drive, currently I have ~10GB of of tunes. I have ~15GB of free space - I still haven't ripped/loaded the other 30GB of tunes. Hmmm, I haven't mentioned video, video is lots bigger. My plan is to keep most/all of the music/video on external drives (multiple copies at multiple locations) - most of the video is already there. My understanding is that iTunes wants all of the stuff for the iPod on the computer all of the time. Is that understanding correct? I mainly want to listen to music/podcasts and not watch videos. I suppose videos on trips would be nice, but that would be added benefit not a requirement. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly C code. C code run. Run, code, run ... PLEASE! *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] least invasive Anti Virus
I like NOD32 by Eset. Very small footprint. Usually gets no def files several times a day. Here is a link to a review: http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/eset-nod32-review.html YMMV I do not mind paying for an AV package, I just do not want one that bogs the system down, does not allow some activities, etc. I have used a number of versions of norton and macafee, and both were very invasive. they were cheap. but I would not mind paying for a decent piece of software. -- 'Cosmic giggle' - a randomly roving zone of synchronicity and statistical anomaly. Should you be caught up in it, it will turn reality on its head. It is objective and subjective, simultaneously 'really there' and yet somehow is sustained by imagination and expectation - Terence McKenna * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
I think 10.4 was a big improvement over 10.3. From what I've read so far, and I've looked in to it quite a bit, there are no features of 10.5 that would motivate me to get it. There are some neat new features and some worthwhile improvements to the standard Apple programs that would be useful, but I'm happy and comfortable doing things in ways that are becoming old fashioned, like putting things where they belong rather than having to do searches to look for them. I don't go for eye candy like the transparent Dock. That's just silly. I guess I'm getting old, because some of what is new in 10.5 strikes me as excessive visual stimulation for people with a shorter attention span that mine. I do backups by hand also, and I don't like the files to be in a special format or readable by some special program. I did start using Carbon Copy Cloner recently and I like that a lot. Thank you Tom. Jordan mike wrote: I've been reading that this is not a major release, I'm wondering what denotes it as major for those mac users on the list thinking of getting it? Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
Jordan I think 10.4 was a big improvement over 10.3. From what I've read so far, and I've looked in to it quite a bit, there are no features of 10.5 that would motivate me to get it. There are some neat new features and some snip The one reason I'm getting it is Screens (correct name? ability to have multiple independent workspaces on one login?). I have that on a Sun and sorely miss it on the Windows system at work. I hope this implementation doesn't suck! Everything else looks like a big yawn. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
mike It's available on windows, either as a free powertoy for xp, or you can search for virtual desktop on download.com and come up with dozens. It's amazed me it's taken this long for apple to have this come out, it's been on unix/linux for a decade? It's been on windows for years for that matter too. I've seen some of the implementations on Windows and the implementations were poor. The sessions didn't seem to be real independent. I wish I could remember more details of what was wrong. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly We all live in a yellow subroutine. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] non-iPod MP3 player for Mac
Mason Miller You can make your iTunes directory use an external drive. So using an iPod with iTunes should work fine. You can also choose to have iTunes leave your media where it is, so you could keep music on one drive and video on another if you like. Hmmm, I'm a little confused. I wonder if I can have multiple paths? The last pair of drives I updated videos on, one had a directories called movies and cooking (or was that videos?). The other drive had a pair of directories, organized by date, the second directory (the one most recently created) had the videos (whatever the name is). -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I parked my Hard Disk and now I can't find it. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
At 9:32 PM -0400 10/26/07, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Jordan I think 10.4 was a big improvement over 10.3. From what I've read so far, and I've looked in to it quite a bit, there are no features of 10.5 that would motivate me to get it. There are some neat new features and some snip The one reason I'm getting it is Screens (correct name? ability to have multiple independent workspaces on one login?). I have that on a Sun and sorely miss it on the Windows system at work. I hope this implementation doesn't suck! Everything else looks like a big yawn. The feature is called Spaces. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Update OS X 10.3.9 to 10.5?
At 3:29 PM -0400 10/26/07, gerald wrote: If 10.4 saved you 5 minutes a day, would it not be worth the $100 they want for it? or is your time that invaluable? I doubt it will save me any time. It WILL permit me to run Google Earth on that machine. Which will probably burn up time, rather than save it. :-) -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
