Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
Your arguments are valid, but kind of missing the point. People are  going 
to have to change, period, in the way they think of energy  usage. Or we're 
going to have to pour money and energy (pun intended)  into changing what 
we use as energy.


Jeff, you're a bright guy.  No question about that.  A lot of people
on this list can make well reasoned arguments about what we
should do and what our desired outcome is.

As a professional manager, no offense, what I want is a plan and
actionable, measurable objectives to make it so.

I know how to make people do things.  They pay me to do that.

Saying we need to isn't cutting it.  I think that defining specific,
measurable objectives is important.

For instance.  Your mission, Jeff, is to reduce consumer credit
rates below 10% across the board within the next six months.

That is what I expect of you, and if you can't do that then you're
fired.  Your tools are the money we've poured into lenders.

If you can't restrain them, you're fired.

And I'll get another manager.

Your mission, Jeff, is to ramp up our commitment in Afghanistan
effectively and reduce Coalititon casualties within 10% in the next
six months.

If you fail, you're fired and I get another manager who can.

Your mission, Jeff, is is to rebuild the US infrastructure fast and
effectively so that we can serve our citizens and be competitve
in the world.

If you fail...

You get the idea.  Specific plans, goals and objectives with very
real consequences of failure.  I am not playing around, I want
this shit happening now or you are off the team.


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Miles

I also understand, though not totally agree with your examples.
	I also used to be a professional manager. I quit. I got tired of  
living up to expectations similar to ones you posted below. Maybe not  
worldwide expectations, but company wide. I finally said screw that  
when the owners wouldn't listen to common sense.
	I thought about this earlier while watching the Colbert Report and  
the had a spoof that said Christmas was supposed to save the economy.  
I had to deal with owners who thought this way, literally.   Their  
business is now gone, statewide, thank God! Some people out of work,  
but hopefully more out there starting business with brighter ideas. If  
the business isn't working year round, you're doing something wrong.  
Or you're in the wrong business. Unless you're only business is to  
sell Christmas trees that is.


Jeff M


On Feb 14, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote:

Your arguments are valid, but kind of missing the point. People  
are  going to have to change, period, in the way they think of  
energy  usage. Or we're going to have to pour money and energy (pun  
intended)  into changing what we use as energy.


Jeff, you're a bright guy.  No question about that.  A lot of people
on this list can make well reasoned arguments about what we
should do and what our desired outcome is.

As a professional manager, no offense, what I want is a plan and
actionable, measurable objectives to make it so.

I know how to make people do things.  They pay me to do that.

Saying we need to isn't cutting it.  I think that defining specific,
measurable objectives is important.

For instance.  Your mission, Jeff, is to reduce consumer credit
rates below 10% across the board within the next six months.

That is what I expect of you, and if you can't do that then you're
fired.  Your tools are the money we've poured into lenders.

If you can't restrain them, you're fired.

And I'll get another manager.

Your mission, Jeff, is to ramp up our commitment in Afghanistan
effectively and reduce Coalititon casualties within 10% in the next
six months.

If you fail, you're fired and I get another manager who can.

Your mission, Jeff, is is to rebuild the US infrastructure fast and
effectively so that we can serve our citizens and be competitve
in the world.

If you fail...

You get the idea.  Specific plans, goals and objectives with very
real consequences of failure.  I am not playing around, I want
this shit happening now or you are off the team.


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
Maybe not  worldwide expectations, but company wide. I finally 
said screw that when the owners wouldn't listen to common sense.


So I guess I can count you out as Secretary of Commerce?

Too bad.  Well, it isn't a job I'd take either.

Maybe you'd like Secretary of Intransigence.  I've always felt
that it made me a better leader to have some difficult people
on my team.  After all it is a compliment to have people that
disagree with you actually wanting to work with you.

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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Miles
	Maybe you got me wrong. I took it for quite awhile. But after a time  
you begin to realize others would love to deal with the crap while  
you're tired of it. So let them. Happiest move I've ever made in my  
life.
	By the way, is there a Secretary of Beachs? I love hanging out at the  
beach nowdays. In fact, on my way to Maui in a couple weeks. And then  
the big island to see the telescopes.


Jeff M


On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:25 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote:

Maybe not  worldwide expectations, but company wide. I finally said  
screw that when the owners wouldn't listen to common sense.


So I guess I can count you out as Secretary of Commerce?

Too bad.  Well, it isn't a job I'd take either.

Maybe you'd like Secretary of Intransigence.  I've always felt
that it made me a better leader to have some difficult people
on my team.  After all it is a compliment to have people that
disagree with you actually wanting to work with you.

Discernment, and all that.



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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
Maybe you got me wrong. I took it for quite awhile. But after a time  
you begin to realize others would love to deal with the crap while  
you're tired of it. So let them.


No, I didn't get you wrong.  You are clear as crystal.  I got the
message, check, 10-4, five by five.

OK, you're on the beach.  You think that means you're out of the
game?  Think again.

The game has co-opted you.  You love it so much that you are
actually posting in this thread.  You can't give it up and you
freaking know it.  You hear that giant sucking sound?  It ain't
the waves, dude.  You don't have to post here but you know
you want to, OK.


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Matthew Taylor

On Feb 14, 2009, at 2:34 AM, Jeff Miles wrote:

	Your arguments are valid, but kind of missing the point. People are  
going to have to change, period, in the way they think of energy  
usage.


Right - eventually, if most non-dystopian futurists are correct,  
energy will be something we hardly think of at all due to its  
plentiful on demand nature.  How we get there is the issue.


Or we're going to have to pour money and energy (pun intended) into  
changing what we use as energy. Very large cities were created due  
to trade. These huge cities, due to modern transport are no longer  
necessary.


Other way around - modern transport makes huge cities possible -  
without it we can not supply the food and consumables the denizens  
require.  In our past, city size was a function of available food  
supply from the local country side via road, river, only occasionally  
via sea (think Rome).  Modern economic theory - that would be free  
trade - when combined with  modern transport made it possible to have  
large cities where the city owners did not control the source of the  
food.



They're just a remanent of the past that's struggling to hold on.


Struggling to hold on?  The rate of urbanization is increasing last I  
heard.


How many cities are going broke trying to sustain their population  
and infrastructure?


How many are spending huge amounts of money on stuff other than core  
city services?



Bigger isn't always better. Didn't computers prove that?


It is also irrelevant, because sometimes bigger is better or more  
efficient.


	Also, industrial capacity is a bit of a misnomer. It's relevant  
if you hope to sustain the world with no change. But the world with  
no change in its' past structure is becoming less relevant everyday.


Industrial capacity refers to the ability to make stuff - industry -  
that people want.  I don't know what that will be next year, let alone  
next decade, with enough precision to get rich off the knowledge, but  
I do know people will want industrial products.


	We, as a country or world, didn't start using electricity or oil  
over night.


But no one ever went back on electricity once it was available to them.

It's going to take time, acceptance and a means of profitability for  
those who help to make it viable for the industrialized world as a  
whole. There have been many great ideas put forth over the years to  
help jump start this. There has been next to no $ put forth compared  
to what's been spent to keep the oil flowing. And the oil, as anyone  
can plainly see, is a finite resource. But like our economy is  
showing today, we love to put stuff off.


Thank our progressive hide the true cost of things tax structure in  
part for that.  We subsidized oil through our indirect taxes (income,  
business pass through taxes).  Subsidies always distort the market -  
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Re: [CGUYS] OS X replicating software?

2009-02-14 Thread E. Riley Casey

Something like Carbon Copy Cloner ?

http://www.bombich.com/ccc



At 3:24 PM -0800 2/13/09, db wrote:

Date:Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:24:33 -0800
From:db db...@att.net
Subject: Recommendation for OS X replicating software?

I would like to set up automatic file replication on a pre Time 
Machine Tiger G5  so as to provide a 2nd copy of all critical user 
data files on a separate but local hard drive.  Any recommendations? 
Hopefully freeware.


db




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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?

2009-02-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
I'm using Bombich Carbon Copy Cloner at this moment.

I use it too, but have found it less than reliable over the years. His 
top selling point for version 3 is that it is not as bad as previous 
versions. That kind of MS-style marketng does not impress.

The problem with CCC is that it relies primairly on the UNIX system. CCC 
is primairly a friendly user interface for configuring UNIX. When 
something goes wrong the errors you get are from UNIX and therefore do 
not relate well to the settings you made in CCC.

Last week a client's computer reported during a CCC run: The shell tool 
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Re: [CGUYS] Solar Energy and Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 or get rid of all subsidies and see which technologies
 survive longest.

Hear, hear!


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Wright
   Your arguments are valid, but kind of missing the point. People
 are
 going to have to change, period, in the way they think of energy
 usage. Or we're going to have to pour money and energy (pun intended)
 into changing what we use as energy. 

The easiest way to do this is for the state to stay out of the energy
pricing business.  Let high energy prices do their job.

When gas hit $4/gallon last year, people's habits changed.  They drove less
and they purchased more fuel efficient vehicles, so much so that auto
companies that depended on large truck/SUV sales as a large part of their
profit margin are on the skids (and for a number of other reasons too).

People used significantly less energy, period.

To add onto the conversation about being more energy efficient, you do what
you can.  I replaced all but 3 bulbs in the house, 3 dozen in total, with CF
bulbs over 3 years ago.  The 3 daylight-temp incandescent bulbs are in our
bathroom, for grooming purposes, natch.  We're replacing our 48 year old
wooden windows with much better vinyl windows a few at a time, to avoid
taking on a home equity line.  We keep the thermostat at 67 degrees max with
a programmable unit and it goes down during the day and at night.  Even
then, we still get a $300 gas bill for our 1,800 sf house (I need to
insulate the attic more, but I haven't had time.  I may just pay someone to
do it so it gets done.)

Oil, coal and gas will eventually be replaced as primary energy generation
sources when other energy sources become either economically (I'm looking at
you, solar) or technologically (fusion) viable and also as consumers
increase demand for alternative energy sources.  While high energy prices
can do good, artificially forcing consumers to pay even more, by the state
interfering in the market by creating net-negative boondoggles such as
ethanol or mandating x% of non-hydrocarbon generation, won't help and will
only slow the natural evolution of the market towards a less carbon
dependent state.


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Re: [CGUYS] Solar Energy and Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Roger D. Parish

At 12:45 PM -0500 2/14/09, Jeff Wright wrote:


  or get rid of all subsidies and see which technologies

 survive longest.


Hear, hear!



With regard to discontinuing subsidies, you have two chances: slim 
and none. Those subsidies were bought and paid for, and will be 
defended with great vigor.


Who's a cynic? Not me; I'm a realist.
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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Chris Dunford
 Oil, coal and gas will eventually be replaced as 
 primary energy generation sources when other energy 
 sources become either economically (I'm looking at
 you, solar) or technologically (fusion) viable and 
 also as consumers increase demand for alternative 
 energy sources

This is correct in terms of economic theory; the problem is that it isn't
forward-looking. As long as oil prices remain low, there's little incentive
for the private sector to invest a lot of capital in alternative sources,
especially in carbon-neutral alternative sources. By the time there is
sufficient incentive, it may be too late.

Last summer's high prices had no natural cause. They were created by
speculation, not by supply/demand issues--in fact, supply was up and demand
was down. My understanding (and this is something that I've heard but
haven't researched) is that, with prices back down, already the ratio of
efficient to inefficient vehicle sales has dropped, and people are driving
more. Consumer memory appears to be very short.

Given this situation, it's entirely possible that, if left to market forces
only, development of alternatives won't come in time to avoid some very
nasty consequences. This is why government support for research might not be
a bad thing; one of the functions of good government is to support things
like this when it's necessary and the private market isn't going to cut it. 

It just has to be smart enough to avoid foolishness like ethanol, hydrogen,
and biodiesel.


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Re: [CGUYS] Solar Energy and Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread b_s-wilk

By the way affordable is in the eye of the beholder,  What may be affordable to 
you is not to me.


Damn straight, Reverend. 


The first Earth Day in the 1970s was embraced by the so-called 
counterculture. The more entrepreneurial and creative people with almost 
no budget [like us] used their imagination and sweat to retrofit and 
build thousands of low-energy homes. If you're planning to build a new 
house it's easier to design efficiency from the ground up, but  new 
materials then--Tyvek, metallic Mylar--were used in retrofits, as were 
R-Max and Thermax polyisocyanurate [mostly nontoxic foam] insulation sheets.


If the hippies could do it on the cheap, so can you. Early guide was 
The Food and Heat Producing Solar Greenhouse by Rick Fisher and Bill 
Yanda. Mother Earth News has published thousands of inexpensive projects 
for energy efficiency and alternative energy.


It's easier to find how-to info now with the Internet, 
http://tinyurl.com/bqlblz, even through the DOE, 
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/informationcenter/. If you can't afford to 
buy it, build something youself with the help of friends, or in our 
case, Amish neighbors. For those in the DC area, visit the solar open 
house in Takoma Park, http://www.chesapeakeclimate.org/.


Just as we never let the lack of money keep us from traveling [see 
Lonely Planet books], we also haven't allowed not having enough money 
keep us from optimizing our energy use comfortably.



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Re: [CGUYS] Solar Energy and Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 With regard to discontinuing subsidies, you have two chances: slim
 and none. Those subsidies were bought and paid for, and will be
 defended with great vigor.

Oh, I'm under no such illusion that they ever will go away.  The rush, these
past few weeks, of the vested interests to step over one another for their
chance to be stimulated shows that.  I just like the idea.


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 This is correct in terms of economic theory; the problem is that it
 isn't
 forward-looking. As long as oil prices remain low, there's little
 incentive
 for the private sector to invest a lot of capital in alternative
 sources,
 especially in carbon-neutral alternative sources. By the time there is
 sufficient incentive, it may be too late.

It is forward looking in that it is implicit that prices will not always
remain low.  Eventually, supply will run low enough to have a permanent
effect on price.  Price contains a good amount of information, beyond what
it costs the consumer, and anyone with half a brain paying attention to
those early signals will be researching suitable replacements; research is
going on now.  My own prediction is that we'll shift long before that, at
least in the first world.

 Last summer's high prices had no natural cause. They were created by
 speculation, not by supply/demand issues--in fact, supply was up and
 demand
 was down. My understanding (and this is something that I've heard but
 haven't researched) is that, with prices back down, already the ratio
 of
 efficient to inefficient vehicle sales has dropped, and people are
 driving
 more. Consumer memory appears to be very short.

Speculation only works as long as you have an infinite supply of money or a
buyer willing to pay a speculative price.  The commodity markets worked as
they were supposed to.  They based a good deal of the price on the
expectation of the artificially stimulated demand from the artificially
elevated economies continuing.  When those economies naturally went into
reverse, lowering the expectation of demand, prices collapsed.  

 It just has to be smart enough to avoid foolishness like ethanol,
 hydrogen,
 and biodiesel.

Good luck with that.  Foolishness should be recognized as an alternative
fuel, since our federal government seems to run exclusively on it.


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Elaine Zablocki

At 07:57 AM 2/14/2009, Matthew Taylor wrote:
Right - eventually, if most non-dystopian futurists are correct,

energy will be something we hardly think of at all due to its
plentiful on demand nature.  How we get there is the issue.


Could you please give names, references, something I could read? I 
haven't read anyone who says energy will be something we hardly 
think of at all due to its  plentiful on demand nature.
If there are intelligent people who think that could be a 
possibility, that would sure cheer me up.

(Plentiful energy that doesn't increase global warming??)

Recently I've been remembering an early Robert Heinlein story ... I 
bet lots of folks on this list know it... the one where they discover 
a way to capture energy from the sun at no or very little cost... 
(and fight big companies that don't want this information made 
public) ... the usual Heinlein interplay between a smart scientist 
guy and an equally smart wise-cracking woman... I can't recall the 
name of the story, or find it on my shelves.


But I find myself remembering it these days, and thinking if that is 
ever going to become a reality, now would be a real good time.



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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Jeff Miles
	From what I've heard hydrogen is the best source. It is everywhere  
after all. Then there's the moon with it's helium 3. I really don't  
know much about it except for the teasers on the science shows. I also  
saw on these science shows they are building a fusion reactor  
somewhere. I guess they hope to have it running in the next 4-5 years.  
But commercial application wouldn't come for another 10-25 years? I  
guess it all depends on how this one works.
	I'm going to ramble a bit here. I can understand the problems with  
creating this thing. Blowing something up is easy. Creating a  
sustainable artificial sun ain't. I mean look at what it's cost and  
taken to possibly create micro black holes. The LHC has been one huge  
effort. And even then it breaks down as soon as they turn it on. Of  
course I understand this, seeing all that's involved. For those who  
don't know what that is, you can see it here. http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/
	Anyway, back to your comments and something someone else wrote. I  
truly believe in hydrogen research. It's global warming friendly. And  
I don't know why that other someone said it was foolish. In fact was  
also wondering why they called biodiesel foolish. A friend uses it  
with no problems. Of course he's a math professor geek who completely  
tore apart Mercedes station wagon and put it back together to his  
liking. Yes, he's a perfectionist. To a detrimental point in some  
instances.
	As to Heinlein, I've read many of his books, and your description  
sounds familiar, but I can't think of the exact piece your describing.  
He was one weird dude. Last one I remember was about an old guy having  
his brain transplanted into a young female body. You can probably  
imagine the rest.


Jeff M

On Feb 14, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Elaine Zablocki wrote:


At 07:57 AM 2/14/2009, Matthew Taylor wrote:
Right - eventually, if most non-dystopian futurists are correct,

energy will be something we hardly think of at all due to its
plentiful on demand nature.  How we get there is the issue.


Could you please give names, references, something I could read? I  
haven't read anyone who says energy will be something we hardly  
think of at all due to its  plentiful on demand nature.
If there are intelligent people who think that could be a  
possibility, that would sure cheer me up.

(Plentiful energy that doesn't increase global warming??)

Recently I've been remembering an early Robert Heinlein story ... I  
bet lots of folks on this list know it... the one where they  
discover a way to capture energy from the sun at no or very little  
cost... (and fight big companies that don't want this information  
made public) ... the usual Heinlein interplay between a smart  
scientist guy and an equally smart wise-cracking woman... I can't  
recall the name of the story, or find it on my shelves.


But I find myself remembering it these days, and thinking if that  
is ever going to become a reality, now would be a real good time.



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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?

2009-02-14 Thread Matthew Taylor
RSYNC and CRON are rock solid, the latter in use for several decades,  
the former for many years, thought not several decades.


I use both regularly, RSYNC for backups on my OS X boxes, CRON for a  
variety of tasks (though rarely on my OS X boxes).


Matthew

On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:39 PM, db wrote:


Aww shoot!
In reading people's responses to my original post, I thought I might  
go with CCC but since I am actually researching for a friend, it's  
not good to hear that I would be setting them up with something that  
is likely produce problems eventually  ... that then I will have to  
try to fix..   :(


I agree that dependable is pretty much everything when it comes to  
backups


What about the other choices mentioned:  Deja Vu ($25), Super Duper  
($?) and Cronnix / rsync (free)?
And I guess upgrading to Leopard  Time Machine should be included  
in the mix...


In looking at the reviews (mixed...) for Deja Vu just now, I came  
across another option ChronoSync ($40):

http://www.econtechnologies.com/pages/cs/chrono_overview.html

Anybody have experience re: good stability/ dependability with  
ChronoSync or the other options?


db

Tom Piwowar wrote:

I'm using Bombich Carbon Copy Cloner at this moment.



I use it too, but have found it less than reliable over the years.  
His top selling point for version 3 is that it is not as bad as  
previous versions. That kind of MS-style marketng does not impress.


The problem with CCC is that it relies primairly on the UNIX  
system. CCC is primairly a friendly user interface for configuring  
UNIX. When something goes wrong the errors you get are from UNIX  
and therefore do not relate well to the settings you made in CCC.


Last week a client's computer reported during a CCC run: The shell  
tool could not be found. Error code 35. Well, what does one do  
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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Matthew Taylor
But we are not doing that now - we subsidize oil prices heavily by  
spending other tax dollars on deployments to the Gulf to keep the  
market stable, and the price down.


Matthew

On Feb 14, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:


it's entirely possible that, if left to market forces
only, development of alternatives won't come in time to avoid some  
very
nasty consequences. This is why government support for research  
might not be
a bad thing; one of the functions of good government is to support  
things
like this when it's necessary and the private market isn't going to  
cut it.


It just has to be smart enough to avoid foolishness like ethanol,  
hydrogen,

and biodiesel.




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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Chris Dunford
 Anyway, back to your comments and something someone else wrote. I
 truly believe in hydrogen research. It's global warming friendly. And
 I don't know why that other someone said it was foolish. In fact was
 also wondering why they called biodiesel foolish. A friend uses it
 with no problems

That was me. Whether it works as a fuel is not the only issue.

Hydrogen is a near-perfect fuel, but there's no obvious way to produce it
efficiently. All the methods we know about either produce greenhouse gases,
are too expensive, require more energy than you get from the hydrogen, or
aren't practical for large-scale production. We'd need a cheap,
nonpolluting, energy-efficient way to produce hydrogen on a massive scale,
and there are no immediate prospects of this (none that I've heard of,
anyway). Maybe someone will come up with one, but so far it doesn't look
good.

Biodiesel creates essentially the same greenhouse gases that oil does when
it's burned. It could theoretically replace oil, but it does nothing to help
with the climate change problem, so it's not the solution either.


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Chris Dunford
 But we are not doing that now - we subsidize oil prices heavily by
 spending other tax dollars on deployments to the Gulf to keep the
 market stable, and the price down.

I think many of us are hoping that the new administration is a little
smarter about this kind of thing and doesn't regard science and scientists
with deep suspicion.


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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?

2009-02-14 Thread rocky lee
Have a look at this:

http://freeridecoding.com/smartbackup/index.html


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 Date:Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:24:33 -0800
 From:db db...@att.net
 Subject: Recommendation for OS X replicating software?
 
 I would like to set up automatic file replication on a pre
 Time Machine 
 Tiger G5  so as to provide a 2nd copy of all critical user
 data files on 
 a separate but local hard drive.  Any recommendations? 
 Hopefully freeware.
 
 db


  


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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread Matthew Taylor
Been a while since I spent much time on it so I can't recall the  
specific references.  I will see what I can find in my library as time  
permits.  All are in the general class of hard science fiction  
essayists (i.e. they right fiction, but also right non-fiction on the  
underpinnings of their fictional works).


I can give you some examples from memory though.

Fission - expensive now, but the theoretical knowledge is already out  
there for more efficient designs that are safer still.  The worry  
about waste products is a stalking horse for anti nuclear scare  
groups.  We don't have to keep it around for 10,000 years.  We have to  
keep it around for 100 year, 200 year max, maybe much less.  Why?   
Because by that time we will have the technology to at a minimum toss  
it into the sun.  More likely to recycle it for some productive use.   
Any prediction that assumes no material advance in capabilities that  
are only in degree, not in kind is belied by the history of the human  
race.


Solar Power collection - expensive now, but it will get much, much,  
cheaper.  It will get cheaper still in orbit which solves the current  
problem of waste heat - space is the great heat sync (ok, technically  
it is not, but you can radiate waste heat there all you want).  Power  
can be beamed down to receptors in suitable places with little impact.


Hydrogen fuel - we have no shortage of sea water.  Using focused solar  
or nuclear power we can crack sea water and get what we need for  
portable power generation.  Right now it is not cheap enough, but it  
will become so.


None of these have  notable heat producing effects on a global  
climactic scale.


The real challenge is consumption efficiency - can we avoid waste heat  
from all this plentiful energy.  I am not up on the current science in  
that regard, but what I understand is that if it becomes a problem we  
will have to be producing a lot more power than we project for the  
next 50 years.


Matthew

On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Elaine Zablocki wrote:


At 07:57 AM 2/14/2009, Matthew Taylor wrote:
Right - eventually, if most non-dystopian futurists are correct,

energy will be something we hardly think of at all due to its
plentiful on demand nature.  How we get there is the issue.


Could you please give names, references, something I could read? I  
haven't read anyone who says energy will be something we hardly  
think of at all due to its  plentiful on demand nature.
If there are intelligent people who think that could be a  
possibility, that would sure cheer me up.

(Plentiful energy that doesn't increase global warming??)

Recently I've been remembering an early Robert Heinlein story ... I  
bet lots of folks on this list know it... the one where they  
discover a way to capture energy from the sun at no or very little  
cost... (and fight big companies that don't want this information  
made public) ... the usual Heinlein interplay between a smart  
scientist guy and an equally smart wise-cracking woman... I can't  
recall the name of the story, or find it on my shelves.


But I find myself remembering it these days, and thinking if that  
is ever going to become a reality, now would be a real good time.



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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history

2009-02-14 Thread b_s-wilk

  Oil, coal and gas will eventually be replaced as
  primary energy generation sources when other energy
  sources become either economically (I'm looking at
  you, solar) or technologically (fusion) viable and
  also as consumers increase demand for alternative
  energy sources


This is correct in terms of economic theory; the problem is that it isn't
forward-looking. As long as oil prices remain low, there's little incentive
for the private sector to invest a lot of capital in alternative sources,
especially in carbon-neutral alternative sources. By the time there is
sufficient incentive, it may be too late.


While I don't like the subsidies for oil, gas and nukes, having higher 
fuel tax has worked well in Europe. The goal is to price the petrol and 
diesel high enough so that people will drive more efficient vehicles, 
while having a tax base that can cover the cost of having excellent 
roads and cleaning up pollution. It seems to be working more or less, 
except, of course in the UK where any opportunity to tax is doubled only 
because they can. I'm amazed at the improvements in roads even in poorer 
countries like Portugal, Greece and Croatia. Market forces have made 
gasoline prices fluctuate wildly, and it will eventually go back up over 
$4, probably $5. I'd rather see the higher price as a tax to be used for 
road improvements and pollution abatement than as pure profit for the 
price-gauging oil cartels.


There's one subsidy that is working very well. In Germany, people get 
grants to put photovoltaic tiles on their roofs. Their electric bills 
remain the same as before installing the PV tiles with the grant making 
up the difference, until 5 years when the payback for the roof tiles is 
complete, after which the energy cost goes down significantly and the 
grant ends, http://tinyurl.com/dgn4c8.


Gotta have some incentive for most people--either carrot or stick.


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Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?

2009-02-14 Thread b_s-wilk
Most people I know are happy with SuperDuper. Try it. I haven't tried 
Time Machine, but since my friends using Leopard still use SuperDuper, 
there must be some features missing in TM. Haven't tried it yet.



What about the other choices mentioned:  Deja Vu ($25), Super Duper ($?) and 
Cronnix / rsync (free)?
And I guess upgrading to Leopard  Time Machine should be included in the mix... 



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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]

2009-02-14 Thread Matthew Taylor
Ding!  You win the prize for the obvious - the bills threatened the  
availability of abortion without consequences and had to be opposed -  
even if this meant tolerating infanticide.  The final bill that Obama  
voted against contained the same language as in a Federal law he said  
he preferred.  Then he voted against in anyway.


And no, I did not read about this in any smear site.  All of this is  
in the public record - you just object to the logical conclusion.



On Feb 12, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Jordan wrote:


Matthew Taylor wrote:


I have not seen MM's take on Obama's support of infaticide, but it  
is real.  I have read the original bill.  I have read the final  
bill after it was modified to meet Obama's and other's objections.   
At the end of the day it was legal in Illinois for living infants  
to be allowed to die with no medical or pallitive assistance and  
that was a position Obama preferred as a matter of law.  In what  
way is that not support for at least passive Infanticide?  It  
matters not at all to the question of O's views that some R's also  
supported it.
Obama and other opponents said the bills posed a threat to abortion  
rights and were unnecessary because, they said, Illinois law already  
prohibited the conduct that these bills purported to address.

Read something other than right wing smear sites.



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