[CGUYS] DTV
I am in sNJ 08320 and have a 40' tower with an uhf/vhf antenna on there pointed toward Philadelphia to coaxial cable to an amplifier to more coaxial cable to a splitter/secondary-amplifier to a 1984 1984 Sony kv25-xbr tube set which, with over-the-air gave such good picture/sound people would ask if we already got a HDTV. I bought the converters (actually 4 different ones) and am getting just a couple of channels. I took one to my sis's house in LI, NY about 20 miles east of NYC and she got about 50 channels. I went on antennaweb and it says I should get almost nothing. People nearby report they are getting plenty of channels. I have gotten cheap internet via Comcast which came with free basic TV for a year. The tower is pretty much in the clear and this is not a valley (sNJ is flat). My antenna has some lost vanes ...it was a good one when I got it. Nobody around here installs TV antennae. I have a tree trimmer who will do the articulated bucket thing and put up an antenna for me, but then there is the question of 1-signal strength, 2-will I get anything more after all the expense? I sure would like to avoid paying for TV if possible; I already don't want to see it for free, for the most part. Where is the problem here? 1-antenna, 2-amplifier, 3-secondary-amplifier 4-the boogie man? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:55 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't Amazon just announce that they would no longer accept Phorm cookies in GB? I don't know about Amazon, but Wikipedia says they will not deal with Phorm at all. Wikipedia views it as an integrity issue. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: When spammers, Phormis, etc. abuse the system we all lose. It is governments as well. The EU is demanding answers from the British government as to why they have entered into this spying arrangement with Phorm in order to establish a monstrous database of the web usage habits of every single resident of England who uses the internet. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV
It could be any of the places/causes you cite. You need a good signal strength meter (or a tech with one) to plug into the line at each of the transition points to see what kind of signal you are getting in the DTV band. I don't know what the frequency band is for DTV, but be sure that the in-line amplifier you are using is rated for the frequency band of interest. The old one may not be. The same is true for the coaxial cable that you are using. If DTV is at a much higher frequency than the analog signals you were using, then the existing cable will be much more lossy at the higher frequencies, and you will need new low-loss coax cable. Even the antenna needs to be one that is tuned to the DTV frequency band. The old antenna may not do a good job. I don't have any interest in over-the-air DTV; analog Cox cable is ok for me, so I don't know the specific frequency bands that are relevant. Used to know all the frequencies when I was a kid, but I've forgotten them all, and they have all changed anyway. HTH Fred Holmes At 02:58 AM 5/6/2009, rleesimon wrote: I am in sNJ 08320 and have a 40' tower with an uhf/vhf antenna on there pointed toward Philadelphia to coaxial cable to an amplifier to more coaxial cable to a splitter/secondary-amplifier to a 1984 1984 Sony kv25-xbr tube set which, with over-the-air gave such good picture/sound people would ask if we already got a HDTV. I bought the converters (actually 4 different ones) and am getting just a couple of channels. I took one to my sis's house in LI, NY about 20 miles east of NYC and she got about 50 channels. I went on antennaweb and it says I should get almost nothing. People nearby report they are getting plenty of channels. I have gotten cheap internet via Comcast which came with free basic TV for a year. The tower is pretty much in the clear and this is not a valley (sNJ is flat). My antenna has some lost vanes ...it was a good one when I got it. Nobody around here installs TV antennae. I have a tree trimmer who will do the articulated bucket thing and put up an antenna for me, but then there is the question of 1-signal strength, 2-will I get anything more after all the expense? I sure would like to avoid paying for TV if possible; I already don't want to see it for free, for the most part. Where is the problem here? 1-antenna, 2-amplifier, 3-secondary-amplifier 4-the boogie man? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, my experience is polar opposite of yours. I recommend Dell to those who ask and often I'm asked about Macs. I tell them to use what they're comfortable with; a computer is a tool, not a fashion statement or position on culture. Not once have I been told, I want to use what everyone else uses, which makes me wonder how much of your story is reality-based. Are you sure you just aren't parsing it through your iFilter? Not at all. I have no iFilter. Unlike yourself, I often hear folks say that they want the same type of computer that everyone else has. Now, quite obviously they really do not mean everyone because not everyone has a computer in the first place. However, these folks mean to say that, for practical purposes, they seem to be surrounded by others who use Windows, and they want to feel as if they have company and some help available when it may be needed. That is a matter of practicality and it is understandable. It is just too bad that computers, which are becoming almost an appliance of necessity in the modern world, are viewed as being so nettlesome and needing of constant TLC. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
Another good reason for No Script. Richard P. Phormís All-Seeing Parasite Cookie Then we are back to setting our browsers to keep no cookies at all and every website we visit will be worse off for it. It is a bad result for everybody, including Phormis. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV
One thing to look at is the receiver portion of the converter. In general, I think older TV receivers had better reception capability because it was so important with everyone using an antenna. With the advent of cable, the manufacturers were able to cut back on the quality of the receiver and happily did so. I imagine shortcuts have been made on the converter boxes as well. Not sure where you can compare converter box receiver strengths. The second issue is the age and condition of the antenna. Don't know your specifics but if you are able to get a lot of analog channels, a decent UHF/VHFantenna should be able to do about the same. The newer it is, the better the connections between the vanes and ribs. You'll have to look on the antennaweb.org site for the actual frequencies of the channels you want to watch, and then match your antenna accordingly. Keep in mind that the frequencies might change from UHF to VHF at the stations discretion, come June. As a rule, VHF signals are better than UHF when it comes to getting the signal to your house, so that might help there. If you are going to go to the trouble of putting up the antenna, you'll want to install an amplifier. Given the difficulty of the installation, it will be easier this way. You can always not use it. However, as an installer once told me, if the signal isn't there, it can't be amplified. Richard P. I am in sNJ 08320 and have a 40' tower with an uhf/vhf antenna on there pointed toward Philadelphia to coaxial cable to an amplifier to more coaxial cable to a splitter/secondary-amplifier to a 1984 1984 Sony kv25-xbr tube set which, with over-the-air gave such good picture/sound people would ask if we already got a HDTV. I bought the converters (actually 4 different ones) and am getting just a couple of channels. I took one to my sis's house in LI, NY about 20 miles east of NYC and she got about 50 channels. I went on antennaweb and it says I should get almost nothing. People nearby report they are getting plenty of channels. I have gotten cheap internet via Comcast which came with free basic TV for a year. The tower is pretty much in the clear and this is not a valley (sNJ is flat). My antenna has some lost vanes ...it was a good one when I got it. Nobody around here installs TV antennae. I have a tree trimmer who will do the articulated bucket thing and put up an antenna for me, but then there is the question of 1-signal strength, 2-will I get anything more after all the expense? I sure would like to avoid paying for TV if possible; I already don't want to see it for free, for the most part. Where is the problem here? 1-antenna, 2-amplifier, 3-secondary-amplifier 4-the boogie man? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV
Even the antenna needs to be one that is tuned to the DTV frequency band. The old antenna may not do a good job. You will need a VHF/UHF antenna. We once thought we would only need a UHF, but the VHF frequenceis we thought were going to be given up will continue to be used by some stations. If DTV is at a much higher frequency than the analog signals you were using, then the existing cable will be much more lossy at the higher frequencies, and you will need new low-loss coax cable. Cable with a wire braided shield is of better quality than that using a foil wrap. The difference may be significant in your case. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV
Where is the problem here? 1-antenna, 2-amplifier, 3-secondary-amplifier 4-the boogie man? If the antenna is old enough to have lost some elements you probably have corrosion problems at various terminals. So you want to replace or clean up as much as you can. Corrosion will attenuate the signal significantly. A wire brush can work wonders. Then cover the terminals with Silicon Chalk to keep them dry. Your coax cable could also have failed if too much moisture managed to get in under the insulation so you should inspect that. Coax is not that expensive so it may be worthwhile replacing it just on GP. Especially if the cost of getting up there is significant. I assume your antenna will have a rotor so you can fine tune its position from a comfortable arm chair. To be most effective your amplifier should be right at the antenna. Every foot of cable will attenuate the signal a litle bit so you get the most benefit of having the amplifier right on the mast. Some antennas come with an amplifier attached. Power to the amplifier is provided through the antenna cable using a power tap located at some convenient spot inside the house. A signal meter is a big help and many digital boxes include an on-screen readout. The meter on some boxes will work even on stations that are too weak to display a picture. Figure out which of your boxes will do that. Good luck. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
I don't know about Amazon, but Wikipedia says they will not deal with Phorm at all. Wikipedia views it as an integrity issue. Looks like grandstanding to me. If the ISP adds the information to a cookie before sending it to the customer and strips it out before passing it on to Wikipedia what does Wikipedia think it is going to do? The only protection is to toss all your cookies periodically. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
Another good reason for No Script. It will not help at all. Zero. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Saving Web pages in Firefox my os
Saving web pages in Firefox is exactly what the Scrapbook Add-on does. I usually print to PDF because the resulting file is more reliable. Sometimes I use the ScreenGrab (screengrab.org) plugin to save it as a JPEG or PNG. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
It is just too bad that computers, which are becoming almost an appliance of necessity in the modern world, are viewed as being so nettlesome and needing of constant TLC. Everyone experiences that only if they get the computer that everyone has. That has been the point, as I was all too much reminded of yesterday. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
played with locating the best signal possible inside the house, and we've gotten to about 80% signal strength. (The RCA box has very nice controls for monitoring this, which is helpful in siting the antenna for best reception.) My experience is that an 80% signal is not good enough because the signal strength fluctuates too much. If your best is 80 you will from time to time drop to 40 and that isn't enough. The next move will be to buy some more antenna cable and try extending the antenna outside, and above the level of our (flat) roof to see what difference that makes. That should make a big difference. I bet that if you are getting 80 inside you will get 95 outside. The alternative might (or might not!) be to get an HD tv and hook it up to the Comcast cable Are you trying to feed multiple sets/boxes with your antenna? I would not do that until a good strong signal is established. Worse case you will only be able to feed 1 set from the antenna. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
Will you explain? If I cookies aren't allowed to be placed by using NoScript, then wouldn't there be nothing to read? Or is it the fact that this info is being picked up at the ISP, so it doesn't matter about the cookies. Thanks, Richard P. Another good reason for No Script. It will not help at all. Zero. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Everyone experiences that only if they get the computer that everyone has. That has been the point, as I was all too much reminded of yesterday. No, not everyone Tom, just people who approach management of multiple computers the same way Chevy Chase approches a comedic scene. At the very least, you could have set automatic updates to download updates, but not install them until you pull the trigger. Or, you just keep cursing the darkness. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:17 PM, chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.com wrote: We have also tried replacing our home-made antenna (a la the YouTube instructions) with an RCA super antenna. Same results whichever antenna we used, so the RCA antenna, with booster, goes back to Walmart tomorrow. No real need to throw away $30 for nothing. When June 12 rolls around, a number of the current DTV broadcasts that are on UHF frequencies, which your home-made antenna is designed to receive, will switch to VHF frequencies. That home-made antenna is not designed to work on VHF. The next move will be to buy some more antenna cable and try extending the antenna outside, and above the level of our (flat) roof to see what difference that makes. This is all pretty ridiculous, but at this point it's the principle of the thing. If the antenna works outside the house, we'll have to think about whether, or not, we want to get a real adjustable roof antenna for another couple hundred $$$s. What a rip-off this whole thing is turning out to be. You will most probably need to get an external antenna if you want the best reception possible. This was true even back in the good old days of nothing but analog TV. However, you will certainly not have to spend, as you put it, another couple hundred $$$s unless you decide to go fulll tilt from the outset. All you will need is a regular VHF/UHF TV antenna. There is no such thing as a specially designed HDTV or DTV antenna no matter what the ads say. Just get an antenna that has sufficient gain to enable you to receive whatever stations you can reasonably expect to be able to receive. You'll need that cable, but you can get it cheap if you look around a bit. A rotator? Maybe, but you can add that later if you install now with an update to a rotator at a later date in mind. I use the Channel Master 4228 which works well on channels 7 through 69. This is an 8 bay bowtie antenna, basically designed for high-gain UHF reception, but providing good VHF coverage down to channel 7. It does not work that well on the lower band VHF channels of 2 through 6. To my knowledge, no TV stations in the DC/Baltimore area are going broadcast on any channel below 7 anyway after June 12. Here is a link to an XLS database of channel assignments for stations all across the country: http://www.rabbitears.info/ss/DTV-Channels.xls Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
No, not everyone Tom, just people who approach management of multiple computers the same way Chevy Chase approches a comedic scene. Clearly, M$ has managed to make updates such a tangled mess that you need to install special software to manage it all. Not so on the Mac. Or, you just keep cursing the darkness. Darkness being a code word for M$ I presume. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV
danka shöen merci graçias dank u well On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Where is the problem here? 1-antenna, 2-amplifier, 3-secondary-amplifier 4-the boogie man? If the antenna is old enough to have lost some elements you probably have corrosion problems at various terminals. So you want to replace or clean up as much as you can. Corrosion will attenuate the signal significantly. A wire brush can work wonders. Then cover the terminals with Silicon Chalk to keep them dry. Your coax cable could also have failed if too much moisture managed to get in under the insulation so you should inspect that. Coax is not that expensive so it may be worthwhile replacing it just on GP. Especially if the cost of getting up there is significant. I assume your antenna will have a rotor so you can fine tune its position from a comfortable arm chair. To be most effective your amplifier should be right at the antenna. Every foot of cable will attenuate the signal a litle bit so you get the most benefit of having the amplifier right on the mast. Some antennas come with an amplifier attached. Power to the amplifier is provided through the antenna cable using a power tap located at some convenient spot inside the house. A signal meter is a big help and many digital boxes include an on-screen readout. The meter on some boxes will work even on stations that are too weak to display a picture. Figure out which of your boxes will do that. Good luck Tom -- This is the end Beautiful friend This is the end My only friend, the end --TheDoors * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
NoScript shows what is trying to access the page and then I can selectively give permissions as needed for what I want to do. For instance, DoubleClick is never needed for anything, so it never sees the light of day. As far as I know, the browser security settings don't allow this individuality. If they can be, where is that located? Thanks, Richard P. Will you explain? If I cookies aren't allowed to be placed by using NoScript, then wouldn't there be nothing to read? Or is it the fact that this info is being picked up at the ISP, so it doesn't matter about the cookies. If you want to disallow cookies you do that in your browser's security settings. Come to think of it, you can turn off the various scripting languages there too. What is it that NoScript does that you can't already do for yourself by just setting browser preferences? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
Just get an antenna that has sufficient gain to enable you to receive whatever stations you can reasonably expect to be able to receive. Good point. A good antenna is the most important part of it. Everything else you may do will be to make up for antenna shortfalls. If the antenna you get has enough gain, everything else will be easy. Antennas with good gain at lower numbered channels will be big. If you don't have to worry about those lower channels you will have an easier time with the antenna. Great value in doing your homework. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
If you are going to manage your systems so poorly, you aren't going to get much sympathy when you complain. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: No, not everyone Tom, just people who approach management of multiple computers the same way Chevy Chase approches a comedic scene. Clearly, M$ has managed to make updates such a tangled mess that you need to install special software to manage it all. Not so on the Mac. Or, you just keep cursing the darkness. Darkness being a code word for M$ I presume. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Maybe you shouldn't have waited to download SP3 until the day after Windows 7 RC, which is a 2.6 GB d/l, is released to great demand. There always seems to be some excuse. Everybody knows not to do this on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, or whatever. The bottom line is that I needed to do something fairly ordinary and it didn't work and the reason it didn't work was at their end. SP3 has been out for over 6 months. Chalk it up to poor network management on your part. I don't know of any responsible manager who applies SPs before they have been out for many months. We let guys like you do M$' beta testing. You should try Windows Server Update Service (WSUS). That looked like a great idea. Thanks for pointing it out. But then I started reading M$ tech notes on it. Download this, then download that, then configure this and configure that, then download some more and configure some more. Then if 'A' then don't do 'B'. On and on. Looks to me like it would be an even worse experience than the original problem it is supposed to solve. And no guarantees that it would even work or continue to work without lots of maintenance. I guess you see that as normal, but I see it as just another M$ mess. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Adobe site says Win XP SP 2 is the requirement...were you running these systems with just SP 1? Pre SP 1? On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Maybe you shouldn't have waited to download SP3 until the day after Windows 7 RC, which is a 2.6 GB d/l, is released to great demand. There always seems to be some excuse. Everybody knows not to do this on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, or whatever. The bottom line is that I needed to do something fairly ordinary and it didn't work and the reason it didn't work was at their end. SP3 has been out for over 6 months. Chalk it up to poor network management on your part. I don't know of any responsible manager who applies SPs before they have been out for many months. We let guys like you do M$' beta testing. You should try Windows Server Update Service (WSUS). That looked like a great idea. Thanks for pointing it out. But then I started reading M$ tech notes on it. Download this, then download that, then configure this and configure that, then download some more and configure some more. Then if 'A' then don't do 'B'. On and on. Looks to me like it would be an even worse experience than the original problem it is supposed to solve. And no guarantees that it would even work or continue to work without lots of maintenance. I guess you see that as normal, but I see it as just another M$ mess. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
There always seems to be some excuse. Everybody knows not to do this on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, or whatever. The bottom line is that I needed to do something fairly ordinary and it didn't work and the reason it didn't work was at their end. That's your excuse when you play in traffic at rush hour, isn't it? I didn't get hit at 11 AM! I don't know of any responsible manager who applies SPs before they have been out for many months. We let guys like you do M$' beta testing. You get what you pay for. Two months is plenty of time for any significant problem to be ferreted out. I haven't had a problem with an SP since Windows NT SP3 in '97 or '98. Actually, it's been longer than I thought; XP SP3 was released over a year ago. Heal thyself. That looked like a great idea. Thanks for pointing it out. But then I started reading M$ tech notes on it. Download this, then download that, then configure this and configure that, then download some more and configure some more. Then if 'A' then don't do 'B'. On and on. Looks to me like it would be an even worse experience than the original problem it is supposed to solve. And no guarantees that it would even work or continue to work without lots of maintenance. I guess you see that as normal, but I see it as just another M$ mess. Whatever. Cue cursing the darkness. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] EMachines Recovery Disc cutoff date
I am trying to repair a wormy EMachines W3107 with a damaged recovery partition. I contacted tech support for a disc set, and they said: We do not keep recovery disc images prior to March 2006. and they could not provide a set. This is a very disturbing development ... Comments? Help?; Did you back up [clone] the recovery partition on DVDs? If not, shame on you! Did your PC include an official certificate of authenticity [the one with the hologram] from Microsoft? Is it registered? If so, you can get the OS disks directly from MS, but with a lot of wrangling and annoyances. On their support site, there's a toll-free support phone number [in Canada] where you can request the discs. Be prepared for them to tell you that they want $20-30 for burning, shipping, handling, AND they want you to FAX a copy of the certificate [this hurdle prevents you from scanning and attaching to an email, and the fax number isn't toll-free]. Try to find disks locally. It's easier, and may be cheaper. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
NoScript shows what is trying to access the page and then I can selectively give permissions as needed for what I want to do. And then they pown you. From what I read, to avoid Phorm you have to stop using cookies completely. Being selective won't help. Your ISP captures all your traffic and messes with you. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Clearly, M$ has managed to make updates such a tangled mess that you need to install special software to manage it all. Not so on the Mac. Nope, but you do have to have more than a gnat's worth of gumption. StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updatesdownload but don't install. Whew! Wipe brow. Darkness being a code word for M$ I presume. I knew I should have taken bets that you'd bite at that one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Adobe site says Win XP SP 2 is the requirement... The installer halts and demands SP3. Who am I to argue? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
You don't say whether he wants a notebook or a desktop. I bought my daughter a HP desktop PC computer for Xmas this past year for about $350. It was not the cheapest: I wanted a dual-core processor. I am amazed at the quality and value when the mail-order computer arrived from HP. My daughter does video graphic design in college, needed a fast machine -- I decided to go with 4 GB DDRAM, a free upgrade then... Checking prices now at HP web site: AMD single-core processor, $300. Intel dual-core, $380. $300 computer comes with 250 GB hard drive, DVD burner, 2 GB memory, Eithernet card, card reader, optical mouse, 6 USB and one IEEE 1394 ports... Are these HP or Compaq? There's a big difference. I like our HP and dislike the POS Compaq. Yes, it's important to consider how the computer will be used, and how portable it needs to be--desktop vs notebook. As an aside to your daughter, if she expects to work in video or graphic design, the good studios all use Macs or other Unix. Magazines and newspapers, good web developers, even credit card companies, use Macs. Local and national TV stations use Macs. Locally, JP Morgan Chase has been on a 'crusade' to get rid of Macs for the past few of years, to save money. They've changed their minds and just ordered 150 more Macs, on top of the 90+ they ordered last year for their Delaware location. Found out that Macs are more secure, easier to use, and need less tech support than Windows PCs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
The only protection is to toss all your cookies periodically. I have all my browsers set to delete cookies when I quit the programs. I also delete cookies when I'm online for a few hours. I don't care if that means I have to do a few extra clicks on web sites. No big deal. You still have no privacy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Nope, but you do have to have more than a gnat's worth of gumption. StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updatesdownload but don't install. Whew! Wipe brow. Do you really run around the office, stopping at each PC to run StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updates? No wonder you are so grumpy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Do you really run around the office, stopping at each PC to run StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updates? No wonder you are so grumpy. No, I use a not-free patching system that scans each system and lists what patches are missing on them. I can then push out patches, including service packs, at my convenience. Download once, distribute to many. Saves me gobs of time and handles several 3rd party apps too, like Flash, Firefox and Quicktime. Since you only have a dozen Windows PCs or so, and can handle installing CS on them (not an insignificant nor quick process), I figured you could handle this. I could be wrong. See what I get for being nice to you? Feh! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
Thanks very much for the comments, Steve! Interesting that we'll lose stations when the UHF to VHF transition takes place. How do you tell, before you purchase, which antenna will give you the most gain? We'll have to look into the Channel Master 4228. Baltimore has a Channel 2, but we don't watch it much. The channel I'm currently trying to get, that I have lost except for the one TV with the Comcast box, is WETA, Channel 26, from Washington, DC. We're in Baltimore, so I can - sort of - understand that it's hard to receive. But it's on the list of stations we should be receiving, but are not. I'll keep everyone posted as we continue to experiment. Longer cable is being purchased now, so that should be installed in a day or two. Mical Wimoth Carton chrper...@aol.com From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:17 PM, chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.com wrote: We have also tried replacing our home-made antenna (a la the YouTube instructions) with an RCA super antenna. Same results whichever antenna we used, so the RCA antenna, with booster, goes back to Walmart tomorrow. No real need to throw away $30 for nothing. When June 12 rolls around, a number of the current DTV broadcasts that are on UHF frequencies, which your home-made antenna is designed to receive, will switch to VHF frequencies. That home-made antenna is not designed to work on VHF. The next move will be to buy some more antenna cable and try extending the antenna outside, and above the level of our (flat) roof to see what difference that makes. This is all pretty ridiculous, but at this point it's the principle of the thing. If the antenna works outside the house, we'll have to think about whether, or not, we want to get a real adjustable roof antenna for another couple hundred $$$s. What a rip-off this whole thing is turning out to be. You will most probably need to get an external antenna if you want the best reception possible. This was true even back in the good old days of nothing but analog TV. However, you will certainly not have to spend, as you put it, another couple hundred $$$s unless you decide to go fulll tilt from the outset. All you will need is a regular VHF/UHF TV antenna. There is no such thing as a specially designed HDTV or DTV antenna no matter what the ads say. Just get an antenna that has sufficient gain to enable you to receive whatever stations you can reasonably expect to be able to receive. You'll need that cable, but you can get it cheap if you look around a bit. A rotator? Maybe, but you can add that later if you install now with an update to a rotator at a later date in mind. I use the Channel Master 4228 which works well on channels 7 through 69. This is an 8 bay bowtie antenna, basically designed for high-gain UHF reception, but providing good VHF coverage down to channel 7. It does not work that well on the lower band VHF channels of 2 through 6. To my knowledge, no TV stations in the DC/Baltimore area are going broadcast on any channel below 7 anyway after June 12. Here is a link to an XLS database of channel assignments for stations all across the country: http://www.rabbitears.info/ss/DTV-Channels.xls Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] EMachines Recovery Disc cutoff date
Thanks, Mark. EMachines (owned by Gateway last time I checked) makes good machines in cheap boxes with minimal power supply... and they have a website where we can still download the drivers for this machine... I just cannot get the RESTORE disc.Every EMachine I have ever owned (4 now) is still running, the oldest since 1998, and it's only problems are provided by the holes in Microsoft operating systems that are exploited by hackers, all fixable with the restore disc. I also own Toshiba's, Dell's, Gateway's, Hewlett Packard, and Compaq. Each EMachine has a brand name motherboard and stable device drivers... but I cannot say the same for my newest Dell Core i7 machine... it has an unbranded (made in China) motherboard, and it's features are not well documented. Not even tech support can answer specific questions about the eSATA port correctly. It gets I/O bound more that I think a super-mini computer should. I have successfully removed the eMachines infections using another computer, so the purchase of an opsys is staved off for now. I will keep my ears open for someone with a working W3107 that can burn a restore set for me. - Brian - Original Message - From: Mark A. Metz mam...@aol.com And Brian, don't let the MS vs. Apple talk get you down. I would have to go to eBay for Jaguar disks for my G4 Titanium PowerBook, too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
What patching system is that? Do you really run around the office, stopping at each PC to run StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updates? No wonder you are so grumpy. No, I use a not-free patching system that scans each system and lists what patches are missing on them. I can then push out patches, including service packs, at my convenience. Download once, distribute to many. Saves me gobs of time and handles several 3rd party apps too, like Flash, Firefox and Quicktime. Since you only have a dozen Windows PCs or so, and can handle installing CS on them (not an insignificant nor quick process), I figured you could handle this. I could be wrong. See what I get for being nice to you? Feh! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Need EMachine W31xx restore disc
A customer failed to make his own set, now his restore partition is corrupted. Need to purchase restore set for Emachine W3107; W3115 and W3118 should work fine (same MB and DVD). As a last resort, I could put a commercial WinXP on it, but he would lose all of his bundled software... replacing all the software is cost prohibitive. It's clean enough for him to use for now, but he still needs a good restoration. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
Since you only have a dozen Windows PCs or so, and can handle installing CS on them (not an insignificant nor quick process), I figured you could handle this. I could be wrong. If the M$ stuff worked I would be a happy camper. As you said, installing CS is not insignificant, it fills 2 DVDs and then needs a bunch of patches. But 3/4 of the day was M$ updaters running very slowly or not at all. I should have been able to download the SP3 exe once and then quickly run that on each PC. It didn't and there is really no excuse for that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
What patching system is that? Shavlik NetChkPro http://www.shavlik.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
But 3/4 of the day was M$ updaters running very slowly or not at all. I should have been able to download the SP3 exe once and then quickly run that on each PC. It didn't and there is really no excuse for that. I've given you the fish and the net and told you how to catch the fish and how to avoid pulling up old boots, but you want to keep complaining about how the fish isn't being cooked and served to you. C'est la vie. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
How do you tell, before you purchase, which antenna will give you the most gain? Nice charts and discussion at hdtvprimer.com. See section on erecting antennas. SolidSignal.com has good info. Note new Channel Master model 4228HD covers down to channel 7. Channel Master 4228 has the highest gain of 12 db. Remember that 1 db = a doubling of power so 12 db is a lot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need EMachine W31xx restore disc
A customer failed to make his own set, now his restore partition is corrupted. Need to purchase restore set for Emachine W3107; W3115 and W3118 should work fine (same MB and DVD). As a last resort, I could put a commercial WinXP on it, but he would lose all of his bundled software... replacing all the software is cost prohibitive. It's clean enough for him to use for now, but he still needs a good restoration. I found this googling the subject title: http://www.restoredisks.com/ This is not an endoresement of this service whatsoever, nor do I have any idea if this is legitimate or not, but it might be what you need. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM, chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.com wrote: Thanks very much for the comments, Steve! Interesting that we'll lose stations when the UHF to VHF transition takes place. How do you tell, before you purchase, which antenna will give you the most gain? We'll have to look into the Channel Master 4228. Baltimore has a Channel 2, but we don't watch it much. The channel I'm currently trying to get, that I have lost except for the one TV with the Comcast box, is WETA, Channel 26, from Washington, DC. We're in Baltimore, so I can - sort of - understand that it's hard to receive. But it's on the list of stations we should be receiving, but are not. Digital Channel 2 isn't on 2 it is on 38 according to Antennaweb.org. The channels numbers will be a legacy of the good old days that carry on even if they have nothing to do with the actual location of the channel. The boxes are now smart enough to call a station on channel 38 channel 2. The antennas only claim down to 7 because 2-6 is a separate band of frequencies right below the FM band that is to be removed from the other current VHF frequencies. You can get the audio for channel 6 on the low low end of the FM dial for the old analog transmitters. You can do this when you get near Philadelphia until the change over anyhow. http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/103327-ota-digital-channel-assignments.html -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
I've given you the fish and the net and told you how to catch the fish and how to avoid pulling up old boots, But the lake is a Superfund Site! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phorm
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote: Will you explain? If I cookies aren't allowed to be placed by using NoScript, then wouldn't there be nothing to read? Or is it the fact that this info is being picked up at the ISP, so it doesn't matter about the cookies. If you want to really understand Phorm listen to Security Now! podcasts that cover it. I think they start with #151. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] First time computer buyer
b_s-wilk wrote: As an aside to your daughter, if she expects to work in video or graphic design, the good studios all use Macs or other Unix. Magazines and newspapers, good web developers, even credit card companies, use Macs. Local and national TV stations use Macs. Locally, JP Morgan Chase has been on a 'crusade' to get rid of Macs for the past few of years, to save money. They've changed their minds and just ordered 150 more Macs, on top of the 90+ they ordered last year for their Delaware location. Found out that Macs are more secure, easier to use, and need less tech support than Windows PCs. At the time she was attending a university that requires PCs. The video graphics department didn't have either Macs or Mac software. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
A minor correction: 3 db is twice power, not 1 db. The formula is: db = 10 log(P2 / P1) = 20 log (v2 / v1) where P is power and v is voltage. 12 db is an increase in power of about 15.8. Tom Piwowar wrote: SolidSignal.com has good info. Note new Channel Master model 4228HD covers down to channel 7. Channel Master 4228 has the highest gain of 12 db. Remember that 1 db = a doubling of power so 12 db is a lot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
A minor correction: 3 db is twice power, not 1 db. Sorry, brain cramp. 12 db is an increase in power of about 15.8. A 1580% increase! You definitely want a good antenna. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
Is the choice of antenna something we'll just have to wait to see what the signals will be like in June when analog signals are turned off? Channels will move. Frequencies and power will change. A box or antenna that is so-so now could be just fine in the summer. I ordered a Tivax STB-T8 yesterday. Has good reviews, customers and review sites. I don't expect much from any converter box, though. Will probably go from 20+ fuzzy watchable stations to 3 if I'm lucky. Who was this frequency change supposed to benefit? Nobody I know. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
Does anyone have any data on 12v converter boxes? The TVs on boats and rvs are perfectly fine for what they're doing and they were cheap, but to replace them with a flat dtv is a considerable investment... and what about hurricane season? - Original Message - From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV A minor correction: 3 db is twice power, not 1 db. The formula is: db = 10 log(P2 / P1) = 20 log (v2 / v1) where P is power and v is voltage. 12 db is an increase in power of about 15.8. Tom Piwowar wrote: SolidSignal.com has good info. Note new Channel Master model 4228HD covers down to channel 7. Channel Master 4228 has the highest gain of 12 db. Remember that 1 db = a doubling of power so 12 db is a lot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Steve Tice added you as a friend on MyLife(TM). Please confirm you know Steve so we can connect you. Do You Know Steve? YES - Connect with Steve, and see who's searching for you http://smtp26.mail.reunion.com:80/track?type=clickmailingid=68802messageid=9300databaseid=1238061914serial=1228209698emailid=computerguy...@listserv.aol.comuserid=399481extra=2002http://www.mylife.com/showInviteRegistration.do?uid=352688710invitee=computerguy...@listserv.aol.com NO - I don't know Steve http://smtp26.mail.reunion.com:80/track?type=clickmailingid=68802messageid=9300databaseid=1238061914serial=1228209698emailid=computerguy...@listserv.aol.comuserid=399481extra=2000http://www.mylife.com/showInviteRegistration.do?unsub=trueinvitee=computerguy...@listserv.aol.comuid=352688710 ~~ MyLife - Find everyone. All in one place.(TM) You have received this email because a MyLife member sent an invitation to this email address. For assistance, please refer to our FAQ or Contact Us: http://smtp26.mail.reunion.com:80/track?type=clickmailingid=68802messageid=9300databaseid=1238061914serial=1228209698emailid=computerguy...@listserv.aol.comuserid=399481extra=2001http://help.mylife.com/ Our Address: 2118 Wilshire Blvd., Box 1008, Santa Monica, CA 90403-5784 Copyright (c) 2009 MyLife.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:24 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Is the choice of antenna something we'll just have to wait to see what the signals will be like in June when analog signals are turned off? Channels will move. Frequencies and power will change. A box or antenna that is so-so now could be just fine in the summer. Could be just fine, as you say. However, a lot of folks have obtained those small so-called HDTV set-top antennas like the Zenith Silver Sensor and its ilk. Those small UHF antennas were pushed hard by retailers as virtually all the initial DTV broadcasts have been in the UHF band for which those antennas were designed. When a lot of the current UHF broadcasts migrate down to VHF, the bulk of the aforementioned antennas are not going to be able to receive them. However, if said folks have saved their old rabbit ears, they can use those along with their UHF antenna to receive the VHF signals. They will just have to use a combiner to hook both antennas together into one feed. I ordered a Tivax STB-T8 yesterday. Has good reviews, customers and review sites. I don't expect much from any converter box, though. Will probably go from 20+ fuzzy watchable stations to 3 if I'm lucky. Who was this frequency change supposed to benefit? Nobody I know. Most stations are going to remain in the UHF spectrum. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Thanks for the invite Steve, whoever you are. Um...no. Unless you throw in beer and pizza. I'll be friends with anyone for beer and pizza! Ken On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Steve Tice stevet...@verizon.net wrote: Steve Tice added you as a friend on MyLife(TM). Please confirm you know Steve so we can connect you. [blah, blah, blah removed] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
I ordered a Tivax STB-T8 yesterday. Has good reviews, customers and review sites. I have it and much regret the purchase. Poor sensitivity. Crummy remote. Slow to change channels. Poor display of program info. Suspect they paid for good reviews or the other boxes must be really bad. The RCA box we have works much better. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Apologies. I was unaware that My Life is a VIRUS. I received and invite and make the mistake of signing up. BIG MISTAKE. It grabs your address book and invites EVERYONE who is in it. And I don't know why you are, as I don't recognize your name (sorry). Steve Ken Board wrote: Thanks for the invite Steve, whoever you are. Um...no. Unless you throw in beer and pizza. I'll be friends with anyone for beer and pizza! Ken On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Steve Tice stevet...@verizon.net wrote: Steve Tice added you as a friend on MyLife(TM). Please confirm you know Steve so we can connect you. [blah, blah, blah removed] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apologies for the invite from My Space
Apologies. I was unaware that My Life is a VIRUS. I received an invite and make the mistake of signing up. BIG MISTAKE. It grabs your address book and invites EVERYONE who is in it. Please disregard, and DO NOT make my mistake of signing up, unless you want to do what I did. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Um...no. Unless you throw in beer and pizza. I'll be friends with anyone for beer and pizza! Good plan. Count me in for beer and pizza too as long as it is not Budweiser, the Vista of Beers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Not a problem. At least not for me. I didn't get the invite directly, I got it through the Computer Guys list, which I (mostly) lurk on. Does this mean I won't be getting the beer and pizza? Ken On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: Apologies. I was unaware that My Life is a VIRUS. I received and invite and make the mistake of signing up. BIG MISTAKE. It grabs your address book and invites EVERYONE who is in it. And I don't know why you are, as I don't recognize your name (sorry). Steve Ken Board wrote: Thanks for the invite Steve, whoever you are. Um...no. Unless you throw in beer and pizza. I'll be friends with anyone for beer and pizza! Ken On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Steve Tice stevet...@verizon.net wrote: Steve Tice added you as a friend on MyLife(TM). Please confirm you know Steve so we can connect you. [blah, blah, blah removed] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apologies for the invite from My Space
Please disregard, and DO NOT make my mistake of signing up, unless you want to do what I did. What!? No beer? No pizza? S sad. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need EMachine W31xx restore disc
Excellent Find! It's worth a try! ... They say they have it... $26.95 including shipping! Thanks, - Brian - Original Message - From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com http://www.restoredisks.com/ This is not an endoresement of this service whatsoever, nor do I have any idea if this is legitimate or not, but it might be what you need. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Good plan. Count me in for beer and pizza too as long as it is not Budweiser, the Vista of Beers. That's a base canard. Budweiser is the King of Beers. It says so right here on the bottle. But as long as beer is being offered, I'll take a Golden Monkey, please. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I have it and much regret the purchase. Poor sensitivity. Crummy remote. Slow to change channels. Poor display of program info. Suspect they paid for good reviews or the other boxes must be really bad. The RCA box we have works much better. Ever notice that many so-called reviews of products on the internet are worded exactly the same even though they appear on different sites? Seems as if they are actually press releases as opposed to any sort of review. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
