Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits

2009-09-22 Thread katan
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:50:42 -0400, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:40 AM, katan ka...@his.com wrote:

 I ask this--maybe I shouldn't admit this in public--because I use a
 thumb drive as my primary data source for email and Quicken. I can use

I don't think you need to worry too much if you don't buy the really cheap
stuff and bang on it too hard.  100,000 writes was what was determined to be
necessary to kill a thumb drive by one set of experiments.

What, exactly, constitutes a write? Is it one email? Is it the whole
batch that gets downloaded at a time? The CGuys list generates,
probably, 5000 posts a year (or more), so that would be quite a few
writes if it's just one email.

It's a 512K Cruiser. I'm guessing Sandisk is not on the *bottom* of the
quality scale, but this thing is, um, more than a couple years old.

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Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits

2009-09-22 Thread katan
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:03:42 -0400, Tony B wrote:

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:40 AM, katan ka...@his.com wrote:
 I ask this--maybe I shouldn't admit this in public--because I use a
 thumb drive as my primary data source for email and Quicken. I can use

A much bigger worry with pocket flash drives is static damage and file
system corruption. Happens all the time. These are great ways to store
data temporarily, but never count on one as a sole backup.

Who said anything about backup? This stuff is primary. The working set.

In your case, especially if you have broadband, you should probably be
storing this data in the cloud.

Nah. If I lose all this stuff, I won't be devastated. Trust me, If I
lose the CGuys collective take on politics or health care, it won't be
the worst thing in the world.


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Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits Was: Re: [CGUYS] Vista -- Help Needed with Read Only Flag

2009-09-22 Thread katan
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:21:28 -0700, mike wrote:

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:40 AM, katan ka...@his.com wrote:

 I ask this--maybe I shouldn't admit this in public--because I use a
 thumb drive as my primary data source for email and Quicken. I can use

Primary data source meaning you have a backup readily available?

Umm. Sometimes. When my big computer was working, I'd back up Quicken
and email to an network connected external once a week. And quicken
also got backed up to floppies. (-:

It's been a while though, I should do that.

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Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits

2009-09-22 Thread Tony B
When you change a byte, that's a write. The way file systems work,
you're not always changing the same byte, but it averages out. Not a
big deal if you use it once a week to transfer files from one machine
to another. Or, like I use one of mine with portable Roboform, to
store (copies of) passwords.

But it's a bad idea to write to it on a daily basis, especially for
something like email that can be stored in the cloud for free.


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:50 AM, katan ka...@his.com wrote:
 What, exactly, constitutes a write? Is it one email? Is it the whole
 batch that gets downloaded at a time? The CGuys list generates,
 probably, 5000 posts a year (or more), so that would be quite a few
 writes if it's just one email.


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Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread Fred Jones
Thanks to everyone that replied to my message. 

I decided to go ahead and buy a powered USB hub to see if it would work for 
what I had in mind. I bought a Belkin Lighted USB Hub and *it did work* 
without the power connected. I used the hub with three devices connected at 
the same time - a mouse, keyboard and flash drive. So now I have a USB hub 
that works either with the power connected or not connected with the devices 
I needed. :) Oh, I was using a Macbook Pro. I only tried with Windows XP, 
but I imagine the Mac OS wouldn't have any trouble. 

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Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits

2009-09-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Right now Google.

Stewart


At 10:04 AM 9/22/2009, you wrote:

At 07:07 AM 9/22/2009 -0400, you wrote:


But it's a bad idea to write to it on a daily basis, especially for
something like email that can be stored in the cloud for free.


Where is this free cloud?

Sue

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Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits

2009-09-22 Thread Mike

Google, live.com come to my mind first.

Sent from my iPod

On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net wrote:


At 07:07 AM 9/22/2009 -0400, you wrote:


But it's a bad idea to write to it on a daily basis, especially for
something like email that can be stored in the cloud for free.


Where is this free cloud?

Sue

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Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits

2009-09-22 Thread Tony B
As others have said, there are a few free email providers that include
lots of free storage. Gmail, mail.live.com, Yahoo mail, etc. There are
also a few sites that offer free file storage like Mozy (still just
2gb free).

But don't discount the pay cloud services like AWS (Amazon Web
Service) via JungleDisk. They only charge for what you use, so we pay
about $1.50/mo. Services like Mozy, Elephantdrive, and Carbonite may
cost a bit more but are only $5/mo for unlimited.

No danger of lost data, and access from multiple computers without
hauling a flash drive around.


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 But it's a bad idea to write to it on a daily basis, especially for
 something like email that can be stored in the cloud for free.

 Where is this free cloud?


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[CGUYS] domain trade llc

2009-09-22 Thread mike
Two days ago I got an email from Domain Trade LLC regarding a domain I've
owned for a little over a year.  I had actually forgotten I had purchased
the domain until this email arrived.  Domain Trade is claiming they may want
to purchase my domain for 50-65% of appraised value and to head to one of
three offered sites they will accept as appraisers.  These sites of course
cost 20-30 dollars to appraise a site.  My first reaction is that this is a
scam and that the appraisers themselves own Domain Trade.  I'll spend 30 bux
getting an 'appraisal' and then Domain Trade will suddenly not want my
site...or it will be appraised at 3 dollars and I'll get a dollar three
eighty from the whole thing.  Anyone else seen things like this?

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Re: [CGUYS] Flash drive limits

2009-09-22 Thread mike
I'd say very limited danger...I've had more then one friend lost his emails
on gmail.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote:


 No danger of lost data, and access from multiple computers without
 hauling a flash drive around.





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[CGUYS] Create https website

2009-09-22 Thread Richard P.
A non-profit has a http website in which users are filling out
personal and private form information, and the non-profit would like
the get it secured with https. How can this be accomplished
economically? Is the code difficult to write?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [CGUYS] Create https website

2009-09-22 Thread Vicky Staubly

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Richard P. wrote:

A non-profit has a http website in which users are filling out
personal and private form information, and the non-profit would like
the get it secured with https. How can this be accomplished
economically? Is the code difficult to write?


There's no (new) code to write (unless the http: part of URLs
is in the existing code). All you need to do is buy an SSL Certificate
(many domain registrars can do it, e.g. Thawte, Network Solutions,
GoDaddy, etc.), and then install it on the web server. If they maintain
their own web server, there's a bit of configuration changes to do,
but nothing too complicated.

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Re: [CGUYS] Create https website

2009-09-22 Thread Richard P.
Thanks for the clarification. How can I find out more, specifically
how the whole process would be accomplished, and what needs to be
reconfigured. Are there tutorial links out there or is it more
complicated than that? Their parent company does have their own secure
web server, and were supposed to set up access for the non-profit a
couple of years ago but it has fallen through the cracks. FYI, the
parent company has very strict access policies so I don't know if
that's standing in the way of their non-profit getting a secure access
port on their server.

Richard P.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Richard P. wrote:

 A non-profit has a http website in which users are filling out
 personal and private form information, and the non-profit would like
 the get it secured with https. How can this be accomplished
 economically? Is the code difficult to write?

 There's no (new) code to write (unless the http: part of URLs
 is in the existing code). All you need to do is buy an SSL Certificate
 (many domain registrars can do it, e.g. Thawte, Network Solutions,
 GoDaddy, etc.), and then install it on the web server. If they maintain
 their own web server, there's a bit of configuration changes to do,
 but nothing too complicated.

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Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Fred Jones fredjone...@softhome.netwrote:

 Thanks to everyone that replied to my message.
 I decided to go ahead and buy a powered USB hub to see if it would work for
 what I had in mind. I bought a Belkin Lighted USB Hub and *it did work*
 without the power connected. I used the hub with three devices connected at
 the same time - a mouse, keyboard and flash drive. So now I have a USB hub
 that works either with the power connected or not connected with the devices
 I needed. :) Oh, I was using a Macbook Pro. I only tried with Windows XP,
 but I imagine the Mac OS wouldn't have any trouble.
 Thanks again for the helpful replies!


Some of the Mac Books had USB ports that were more powered than others.  I
don't remember which ports but if you have trouble with one port try one on
the other side.

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[CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks

2009-09-22 Thread Ranbo
I see some Netbooks at CompUSA for as little as $239, making it much more
affordable.  What do Netbooks typically lack that Notebooks have?

Thanks

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Re: [CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks

2009-09-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Power.

They are called Netbooks in that their primary function is to surf the net.

You can usually run Office, and simple stuff, but they would not be 
suitable for some games and Video processing.


They do not have a CD/DVD, and you must use an external.

They have limited memory (If expandable usually max out at 2GB) and 
may or may not have a physical harddrive (Some have Solid State Drives)


Unless they come with the larger battery 2-3 hours tops on battery.

Just a simple explanation although probably not complete.

Stewart


At 07:08 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote:

I see some Netbooks at CompUSA for as little as $239, making it much more
affordable.  What do Netbooks typically lack that Notebooks have?

Thanks

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Re: [CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks

2009-09-22 Thread Tony B
The defining factor is screen size. By definition, netbooks cannot
have a screen larger than 10.5 inches. Most models will also lack
other stuff like extra memory, fewer/smaller hard drives, no DVD
burner, etc.


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote:
 I see some Netbooks at CompUSA for as little as $239, making it much more
 affordable.  What do Netbooks typically lack that Notebooks have?


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Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread MrMike6by9

 Some of the Mac Books had USB ports that were more powered than others.  I
 don't remember which ports but if you have trouble with one port try one on
 the other side.


My first gen MBP has a free USB port on the right side and on the
left. The port on the left is close to the mag safe power plug but
only the port on the right can power my USB hard drive that I use for
backups and my iTunes collection. I use the port on the left side to
support my IPhone and my iTouch.

YMMV

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Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:47 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote:

My first gen MBP has a free USB port on the right side and on the
left. The port on the left is close to the mag safe power plug but
only the port on the right can power my USB hard drive that I use for
backups and my iTunes collection. I use the port on the left side to
support my IPhone and my iTouch.


USB, being a PC technology picked up by Apple during its dark days, is  
technically a mess. One can have no reasonable expectation about what  
can and can't be successfully powered. I carry a portable drive with  
me that works fine with FireWire. To connect it using USB I have to  
carry an extra cable. First I have to plug in one cord into the drives  
power socket and plug that into one USB port. Then I plug in a second  
USB cord to carry data and supply additional power. The drive won't  
work unless it is getting power simultaneously from two separate USB  
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Re: [CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks

2009-09-22 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Ranbo wrote:
I see some Netbooks at CompUSA for as little as $239, making it much  
more

affordable.  What do Netbooks typically lack that Notebooks have?


You get what you pay for. If what you want is just basic web and word  
processing you'll be fine. You may find problems with Flash or AJAX is  
any computing power is called for. It will not be great for photo  
editing and other media applications. Think of it like a smart phone  
with a bigger screen. Some folks hate the keyboards because they are  
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Re: [CGUYS] Create https website

2009-09-22 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Richard P. wrote:

A non-profit has a http website in which users are filling out
personal and private form information, and the non-profit would like
the get it secured with https. How can this be accomplished
economically? Is the code difficult to write?


HTTPS is just one element in securing data. It is a lot of work with  
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requirement for quarterly audits/certifications. A good place to start  
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Re: [CGUYS] domain trade llc

2009-09-22 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 22, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Mike wrote:
Two days ago I got an email from Domain Trade LLC regarding a domain  
I've
owned for a little over a year.  I had actually forgotten I had  
purchased
the domain until this email arrived.  Domain Trade is claiming they  
may want
to purchase my domain for 50-65% of appraised value and to head to  
one of
three offered sites they will accept as appraisers.  These sites of  
course
cost 20-30 dollars to appraise a site.  My first reaction is that  
this is a
scam and that the appraisers themselves own Domain Trade.  I'll  
spend 30 bux

getting an 'appraisal' and then Domain Trade will suddenly not want my
site...or it will be appraised at 3 dollars and I'll get a dollar  
three

eighty from the whole thing.  Anyone else seen things like this?



You are right to be suspicious and I suspect your assessment is right  
on target. The idea of appraising a domain name is ludicrous. If you  
owned an especially desirable domain you would probably know it already.



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Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That's a surprise I use a couple of external portable harddrives that 
only require one port.


Oh yeah I am using a PC so maybe that is why.

Stewart


At 09:25 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote:

On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:47 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote:

My first gen MBP has a free USB port on the right side and on the
left. The port on the left is close to the mag safe power plug but
only the port on the right can power my USB hard drive that I use for
backups and my iTunes collection. I use the port on the left side to
support my IPhone and my iTouch.


USB, being a PC technology picked up by Apple during its dark days, is
technically a mess. One can have no reasonable expectation about what
can and can't be successfully powered. I carry a portable drive with
me that works fine with FireWire. To connect it using USB I have to
carry an extra cable. First I have to plug in one cord into the drives
power socket and plug that into one USB port. Then I plug in a second
USB cord to carry data and supply additional power. The drive won't
work unless it is getting power simultaneously from two separate USB
connections. I see that as pretty shameful engineering.


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Re: [CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks

2009-09-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I suspect your bias is showing.

A lot of the netbooks are quite capable of editing photos.  Now Video 
would be a different deal.


Editing a photo does not take near the video ram a video does.

Keyboards are keyboards.  Want a full size one, plug it in.

Stewart


At 09:34 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote:

On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Ranbo wrote:

I see some Netbooks at CompUSA for as little as $239, making it much
more
affordable.  What do Netbooks typically lack that Notebooks have?


You get what you pay for. If what you want is just basic web and word
processing you'll be fine. You may find problems with Flash or AJAX is
any computing power is called for. It will not be great for photo
editing and other media applications. Think of it like a smart phone
with a bigger screen. Some folks hate the keyboards because they are
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Re: [CGUYS] Create https website

2009-09-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

One of the ways around this is to use an outside CC processor.

One of my members is selling artwork prints of his late wife.

He uses paypal to process all payments.

You have to pay a fee just like you would from an outside CC 
processor you would have to employ.


Either way you pay!

Stewart



At 09:51 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote:


HTTPS is just one element in securing data. It is a lot of work with
many aspects to consider. For example for credit cards there is now a
requirement for quarterly audits/certifications. A good place to start
for an overview is to read up on the Payment Card Industry Data
Security Standards (PCI DSIs).


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Re: [CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks

2009-09-22 Thread Ranbo
Big enough, I guess, to maybe be cramped, given I'm used to a full-size
keyboard.

Thanks for the explanations

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Ranbo wrote:

 I see some Netbooks at CompUSA for as little as $239, making it much more
 affordable.  What do Netbooks typically lack that Notebooks have?


 You get what you pay for. If what you want is just basic web and word
 processing you'll be fine. You may find problems with Flash or AJAX is any
 computing power is called for. It will not be great for photo editing and
 other media applications. Think of it like a smart phone with a bigger
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Re: [CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks

2009-09-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It depends on what you want to use it for.  As a regular PC/Notebook 
it would be a hassle.


My Bishop (Who is larger than I am) uses one all the time, loves it.

Now I would find it a little cramped, but at work I plug mine in and 
use a full size keyboard.


They are wickedly portable.  Just saw a video presentation given 
today by the local retired sheriff who took one from Alabama to 
Alaska and back on a motorcycle.


Nicely portable.  If you travel a lot it would be nice for that.

It all depends on what you are looking for.

They are really aimed at being ultra portable laptops for those who 
are on the road a lot.


Even the cell companies are getting in on it as they are selling 
connection plans with them to make them not only ultra portable, but 
also connected.


Stewart




At 10:23 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote:

Big enough, I guess, to maybe be cramped, given I'm used to a full-size
keyboard.

Thanks for the explanations

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Ranbo wrote:

 I see some Netbooks at CompUSA for as little as $239, making it much more
 affordable.  What do Netbooks typically lack that Notebooks have?


 You get what you pay for. If what you want is just basic web and word
 processing you'll be fine. You may find problems with Flash or AJAX is any
 computing power is called for. It will not be great for photo editing and
 other media applications. Think of it like a smart phone with a bigger
 screen. Some folks hate the keyboards because they are at tad too 
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Re: [CGUYS] Create https website

2009-09-22 Thread Vicky Staubly

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, t.piwowar wrote:

On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Richard P. wrote:

A non-profit has a http website in which users are filling out
personal and private form information, and the non-profit would like
the get it secured with https. How can this be accomplished
economically? Is the code difficult to write?


HTTPS is just one element in securing data. It is a lot of work with many 
aspects to consider. For example for credit cards there is now a requirement 
for quarterly audits/certifications. A good place to start for an overview is 
to read up on the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standards (PCI DSIs).


This is all true, but the original question just mentioned profile
information, not payment card data. Granted, you still want to be as
secure as possible, so I hope they have someone familiar with network
and server administration and security.

That said, the procedure for installing a certificate varies depending
on which web server you are using. For apache, a good article is
   
http://onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2008/03/04/step-by-step-configuring-ssl-under-apache.html
For IIS (Microsoft's web server), their web site has an article at
   http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299875

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Vicky Staubly   http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com


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