Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: I see you are getting closer to my point. Why not make your point perfectly clear and stop beating around the bush? Is your point something along the lines that older folks, a group that you seem to have a hang-up about, are just plain out of it when it comes to newer technology, and should therefore keep their mouths (and keyboards) shut when dealing with all things modern if they do not agree with your presumptions? Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: As a PRACTICAL matter, a small cellphone fits more easily into a pocket, especially if you're wearing snug bluejeans. A small cellphone also doesn't make you look geeky--you don't have to have one of those dorky cellphone cases attached to your belt to conveniently carry your cellphone (as you probably did in cellphone prehistory, in the 1990's). I agree that small can be handy when carting something around. However, since most cell phone users today deal more with text messaging than they do with talking on their phones, that smallness can present a problem. Still, I find it amusing how phone manufacturers found a way to capitalize on feminine side of guydom when it comes to cell phones. Not only are cell phones status symbols, or bling, as you have said, they are also considered as being virtually a masculine necessity, as in don't leave home without one. The marketing of cell phones is absolutely riddled with testosterone. It is just difficult for me to imagine how a device that is so tiny as to be easily held between two fingers has become symbolic of all that is manly. Gosh, what would Ashley Montagu have had to say about this turn of events? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] EVENT: Taxes w/ CPA Jina Etienne, Jan. 16, 2010
=== * Handout * FREE! Register via e-mail to bc...@cpcug.org === Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) Entrepreneurs and Consultants Special Interest Group (EC SIG) (Meets the 3rd Saturday of most months) CLEVELAND PARK LIBRARY, 1st Floor, Large Meeting Room 3310 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Washington, DC ** Saturday, January 16, 2010, 12:45-3:15 pm TAXES: What Every Entrepreneur and Consultant Needs To Know Speaker: Jina Etienne, CPA, Etienne Associates, LLC Is your business paying more in taxes than required by law? Whether your business grosses millions of dollars each year or you are just getting started as an independent consultant, you probably hire an outside accountant to handle tax return submission. The ultimate responsibility for paying appropriate taxes, however, is yours. Do you have the basic accounting knowledge needed to supervise the work of your accountant? Do you stay current on tax law changes? Because tax return deadlines for corporations and individuals are approaching, the focus of this presentation will be on income tax compliance and preparation rather than on tax planning and consulting issues. This presentation will alert you to mistakes and oversights that can cost you money, and to tax law changes you need to know about. The presentation will be followed by a question and answer session, so gather your questions and join us. Speaker: Jina Etienne, CPA, has more than 15 years of public accounting experience. She began her career with Deloitte Touche, one of the Big Eight accounting firms, where her focus was tax planning and compliance for corporations, partnerships, and S corporations ranging from government contractors and vending companies to hospitality and retail firms. When she left Deloitte Touche to start Etienne Associates, LLC, her focus shifted to the needs of small- and medium-sized businesses. With her own practice, Jina Etienne provides a wide range of accounting services for businesses and individuals, including tax planning and preparation, and business consulting. Her client base is diverse, including retail and service-based businesses as well as consultants and contractors. For individuals, her services generally include tax return preparation and tax planning, including tax research and representation before the IRS. Ms. Etienne earned an M.S. in taxation in 1993 and a B.S.B.A. in accounting in 1989 from American University. Jina has also taught accounting as an adjunct professor at American University and teaches QuickBooks at local accounting seminars and conferences. * Cleveland Park Library, 1st Floor, Large Meeting Room 3310 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Washington, DC (west side, between Macomb and Newark Streets) Metrorail: Cleveland Park Subway Station, Red Line Connecticut Avenue, NW Just 1.5 blocks north of meeting site Parking: Street For additional Information about the CPCUG EC SIG and its events (including any updates on topics, speakers, dates, times, and locations; agenda; area map; related Web links; and more), visit the CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG Web pages-- http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/ These events are FREE and open to all. Advance RSVPs are requested for event planning and to let registrants know about any change in event date, location, topic, or speaker. To RSVP: Send e-mail to Barbara Conn, bc...@cpcug.org ** Saturday, January 16, 2010, 12:45-3:15 pm TAXES: What Every Entrepreneur and Consultant Needs To Know Speaker: Jina Etienne, CPA, Etienne Associates, LLC http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/110meet.html ** Dates/Times of Future Meetings: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 12:45-3:00 pm INCREASING PRODUCTIVITY WITH MOBILE APPS Speaker: Barg Upender, mobomo.com, Founder, CEO http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/210meet.html Saturday, March 20, 2010, 1:00-3:15 pm Topic and Speaker: To Be Announced Saturday, April 17, 2010, 1:00-3:15 pm TECH OPTIONS FOR MOBILE BUSINESS: Smartphones, Netbooks, Accessories, Plans, and More Rob Pegoraro, _The Washington Post_ Saturday, May 15, 2010, 1:00-3:15 pm Saturday, June 19, 2010, 1:00-3:15 pm *** Barbara Conn, bc...@cpcug.org Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) Users Helping Users Chair, CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/ *** CONENT-D: CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG list for event announcements and discussion of business, technology, and computer hardware and software selection, setup,
Re: [CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys
I can recall cell phones being at their smallest about 10 years ago. At the time, people would have desktop chargers at the office, with a cradle for the little phone. It seems to me that increased functionality has reversed the trend. On 1/8/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: I agree that small can be handy when carting something around. However, since most cell phone users today deal more with text messaging than they do with talking on their phones, that smallness can present a problem. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: I see you are getting closer to my point. Why not make your point perfectly clear and stop beating around the bush? Dude. You've stepped in it now. Good luck getting a direct answer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys
At 09:34 PM 1/7/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. You got that right! Unfortunately, there are a whole lot of other folks besides the NSA who are doing it. Nothing you do on the Internet has any expectation of privacy. They do it whether it's legal or not, and no one (no law enforcement agency) cares a whit about stopping them. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Removing a program item
I've been struggling to get my HP PSC7250 AIO to work consistently with my laptop running Win 7 Pro x64 over the network (if anyone out there has been able to do so pls email me). In any case during my last install attempt I used HP's drivers and software suite for Win 7 x64 and it couldn't find my printer so I tried rolling it back. In the Programs List there's still an entry for HP Photosmart All-In-One Driver Software 13.0 Rel. 2 that I can't remove. I tried just the uninstall all option in that entry the first couple of times resulting in my laptop being rebooted by the process but it would still be there. I tried uninstalling anything that may be listed there individually by that entry but the list was blank. What can I do to finally delete that listing (and software) from my laptop so I can attempt a truly clean reinstall? Thx, - Joe * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:22 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: But the point is they are all insecure, windows isn't more or less secure than say OS X, it just appears that way because OS X isn't attacked. Which of course is security by obscurity, but that wasn't what we are talking about. No I am talking about taking responsibility their OS's weakness and fixing them. It is on both Apple and M$ to get things patched, blocked or otherwise secured. Apple may not be the target du jour but they seem to get that better. M$ frequently has known threats where the patches are not distributed until a threat is made public, -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
That's true, MS should get things done ASAP...but that wasn't where this was going. We were talking about if it's MS's fault they are attacked more than their competitors? Does increased market share mean increased responsibility? Perhaps it does, I don't know. What I know is, OS X is no more secure than windows is...that's just a fact outed by several security firms who do this for a living. Does that mean in the real world you are no more safer running OS X? Of course not, it is safer out in the real world because no one goes after it...but again that's not what this was about. Some security related articles about patches etc. http://www.silobreaker.com/mac-os-x-mega-patch-covers-58-security-vulnerabilities-5_2262728291028828160 http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=61086full_skip=1 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:24 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:22 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: But the point is they are all insecure, windows isn't more or less secure than say OS X, it just appears that way because OS X isn't attacked. Which of course is security by obscurity, but that wasn't what we are talking about. No I am talking about taking responsibility their OS's weakness and fixing them. It is on both Apple and M$ to get things patched, blocked or otherwise secured. Apple may not be the target du jour but they seem to get that better. M$ frequently has known threats where the patches are not distributed until a threat is made public, -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
My point is that the manufacturer should be responsible for their products whoever they might be. You keep wandering off trying to give them a pass because they are attacked more often. They are attacked more often because they are low hanging fruit. M$ painted a big old target on its self for handling this sort of thing badly in the past. They should have done everything they could do to help their users have a secure experience. They should have bellied up to the bar and put out their own anti-virus for free because viruses exploit holes in code that they used in windows. I would say the same about Apple if they had these problems and failed to fix them. Hell Adobe is worse than either of them right now and the miscreants are just starting to figure it out. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: That's true, MS should get things done ASAP...but that wasn't where this was going. We were talking about if it's MS's fault they are attacked more than their competitors? Does increased market share mean increased responsibility? Perhaps it does, I don't know. What I know is, OS X is no more secure than windows is...that's just a fact outed by several security firms who do this for a living. Does that mean in the real world you are no more safer running OS X? Of course not, it is safer out in the real world because no one goes after it...but again that's not what this was about. Some security related articles about patches etc. http://www.silobreaker.com/mac-os-x-mega-patch-covers-58-security-vulnerabilities-5_2262728291028828160 http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=61086full_skip=1 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:24 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:22 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: But the point is they are all insecure, windows isn't more or less secure than say OS X, it just appears that way because OS X isn't attacked. Which of course is security by obscurity, but that wasn't what we are talking about. No I am talking about taking responsibility their OS's weakness and fixing them. It is on both Apple and M$ to get things patched, blocked or otherwise secured. Apple may not be the target du jour but they seem to get that better. M$ frequently has known threats where the patches are not distributed until a threat is made public, -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Removing a program item
I dunno, sorry. But I feel your pain. My Kodak scanner doesn't work in Win7 x64, and there's nothing on their site for Win7 yet. Tech support is all too happy to have me move cables around and reboot, but have to admit they don't yet have Win7 certified software. As we speak, I'm supposed to call them back for yet another round of what seems completely wasted effort. Anyway, I solved the issue by installing the free VMWare player with a barebones WinXP install. I scan once a day by running my virtual WinXP where the scanner works fine. A shared folder gets emptied before I close the VM. But I don't see this as a great solution for something you would use a lot like an AIO. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Joe Tseng joe_ts...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been struggling to get my HP PSC7250 AIO to work consistently with my laptop running Win 7 Pro x64 over the network (if anyone out there has been able to do so pls email me). In any case during my last install attempt I used HP's drivers and software suite for Win 7 x64 and it couldn't find my printer so I tried rolling it back. In the Programs List there's still an entry for HP Photosmart All-In-One Driver Software 13.0 Rel. 2 that I can't remove. I tried just the uninstall all option in that entry the first couple of times resulting in my laptop being rebooted by the process but it would still be there. I tried uninstalling anything that may be listed there individually by that entry but the list was blank. What can I do to finally delete that listing (and software) from my laptop so I can attempt a truly clean reinstall? Thx, - Joe * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
Time (already, after 8 months of fairly light use) to replace black and white toner cartridge for Canon 4-in-1 laser printer. Regular cartridge runs around $80. I see there are compatible generic cartridges for as low as around $25. Questions are: a) are these likely to work (had bad experiences with generic ink jet cartridges which didn't work at all with Dell ink jet) b) are they likely to work, but work less well as far as quantity and/or quality and c) are they likely to damage the printer and reduce its life, as Canon's literature suggests? Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
Quality and life of them varies by vendor. I have had some give me all they can give and last just as long as OEM. I have had others that last half as long. Quality of cartridge is varied also. They are generally recycled OEM cartridges recycled by a company. The quality of the recycling is key. Some just refill. Others clean, strip and redo the cartridge. I like to stick to two vendors for my generic laser cartridges and ink catridges. LD Products and Inksmiles www.ldproducts.com (have a couple of alternate sites, but still the main one.) www.inksmile.com Our church collects empty cartridges and sends them in to empties for cash which is tied in with inksmiles. Stewart At 02:51 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote: Time (already, after 8 months of fairly light use) to replace black and white toner cartridge for Canon 4-in-1 laser printer. Regular cartridge runs around $80. I see there are compatible generic cartridges for as low as around $25. Questions are: a) are these likely to work (had bad experiences with generic ink jet cartridges which didn't work at all with Dell ink jet) b) are they likely to work, but work less well as far as quantity and/or quality and c) are they likely to damage the printer and reduce its life, as Canon's literature suggests? Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
Thanks On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Quality and life of them varies by vendor. I have had some give me all they can give and last just as long as OEM. I have had others that last half as long. Quality of cartridge is varied also. They are generally recycled OEM cartridges recycled by a company. The quality of the recycling is key. Some just refill. Others clean, strip and redo the cartridge. I like to stick to two vendors for my generic laser cartridges and ink catridges. LD Products and Inksmiles www.ldproducts.com (have a couple of alternate sites, but still the main one.) www.inksmile.com Our church collects empty cartridges and sends them in to empties for cash which is tied in with inksmiles. Stewart At 02:51 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote: Time (already, after 8 months of fairly light use) to replace black and white toner cartridge for Canon 4-in-1 laser printer. Regular cartridge runs around $80. I see there are compatible generic cartridges for as low as around $25. Questions are: a) are these likely to work (had bad experiences with generic ink jet cartridges which didn't work at all with Dell ink jet) b) are they likely to work, but work less well as far as quantity and/or quality and c) are they likely to damage the printer and reduce its life, as Canon's literature suggests? Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys
The new google fone is a big brick ...I have seen it described as a trough ...sounds like it's just what you are augerin'4 ...rush right down to your T-Mobile store to get on line... ha! -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:35 PM Subject: Phones and guys, even Computer Guys Anyone remember the Princess Phone? Remember how guys would have nothing to do with one of those. Guys would rather walk three blocks to a pay phone back in the day if their only other choice was to use a Princess Phone. Their problem? It was a size thing. No real guy was going to use a small little phone for anything other than throwing one across a room. These days, guys are obsessed with getting the teeniest, tiniest, most mini-demi Princessy Phone they can get their manicured hands on. Just an observation. So what happened? Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
On Jan 8, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: The quality of the recycling is key. Some just refill. Others clean, strip and redo the cartridge. I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results. I avoid refills. New compatible is best. Remanufactured is usually okay. Price is less than half so I'm willing to accept an occasional dud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
This is probably a stupid question...but how do you know he's on intel? The only thing I see indicating chipset is OS version...which runs on powerpc or intel. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:39 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:41 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: That is not pertinent to the issue at hand. Don't give this guy crap. Maybe he has lost his job or something and simply cannot afford the newest release. Maybe he has no need for the latest. Don't give me crap when you don't know what you are talking about. Running PowerPC code on an Intel processor is a complex task with many pitfalls. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
As always change the subject to fit your argument, one way to always think you win. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:37 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: An interesting game of turn about your play here. So we should not blame M$ for producing a defective product, but instead we should blame the buyer for buying a known defective product. They are really the ones creating this mess. That's rich! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:56 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: As always change the subject to fit your argument, one way to always think you win. Sorry but Tom caught you. That is the final conclusion of your argument if you push it all the way. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:37 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: An interesting game of turn about your play here. So we should not blame M$ for producing a defective product, but instead we should blame the buyer for buying a known defective product. They are really the ones creating this mess. That's rich! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
Except windows isn't any more or less defective than OS X. Both of you keep bypassing that fact. If you don't believe the initial premise that both OS's are defective, than there is no more reason to continue the rest of the discussion. I base my opinion on security experts, I'm also not in any way saying that out in the world you are in danger of trojans or viruses if you run OSX. OS X is never shown to be defective (except in all the security updates released for it) because their footprint is so small there is no reason for those after money to go after OSX. If the main reason for trojans/viruses these days is to gain control of as many systems as possible, no enterprising black hat would even look at OS X. But, you put OS X on a level playing field with windows and linux, and tell your white hat security experts, take down *any* of the three first and you get some cool cash...and OS X is taken down first for several years with ease that clearly shows defective issues in the OS. On top of that, the security guys go on to say they went after OS X because it was the easiest of three. So the real question is, if two companies release a defective product...but only one is used so much that it SHOWS it's defective nature...are they both defective or just the one? On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:56 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: As always change the subject to fit your argument, one way to always think you win. Sorry but Tom caught you. That is the final conclusion of your argument if you push it all the way. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:37 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: An interesting game of turn about your play here. So we should not blame M$ for producing a defective product, but instead we should blame the buyer for buying a known defective product. They are really the ones creating this mess. That's rich! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
Actually, we have a rule on our forum No back and forths. Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference, and at best you'll win an argument with an idiot.. While I'm not going to take sides or go as far as actually calling anyone an idiot, I *will* say that you have let Tom goad you into something. He _can_ be the troll when he wants to be, and you've let yourself get caught up in it. So the real question is, if two companies release a defective product... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
I figure any discourse lets other users know who we are for good and bad. I'm not too caught up..during the last few exchanges I've also built a new computer for my wife (smokin deal at fry's electronics..) installed the OS and lost three games of war with a kid. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, we have a rule on our forum No back and forths. Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference, and at best you'll win an argument with an idiot.. While I'm not going to take sides or go as far as actually calling anyone an idiot, I *will* say that you have let Tom goad you into something. He _can_ be the troll when he wants to be, and you've let yourself get caught up in it. So the real question is, if two companies release a defective product... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality
On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, mike wrote: Well Tom says 9...you say 6...Tony says not above 5%. But you say already above 6...why not say it's nowhere near 9%? Maybe the better question is why can't anyone get the numbers? The difference between 6 and 9 is huge. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1496424/apple-market-share-restated http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/07/apple-market-share-up-or-down-depending-on-who-you-ask.ars Those are old stories. How about December 31, 2009... The Mac's been on a roll, both due to its highly regarded Mac OS X Leopard operating system and to an unhappy reception for Microsoft's Windows Vista. The result: For the first time in memory, the Mac's market share has hit 9.1 percent, according to IDC data, and Windows' market share has dipped below 90 percent. (Linux distributions make up the rest.) http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=E6F063CA-1A64-67EA-E44B5944AE55001A * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:59 PM, mike wrote: This is probably a stupid question...but how do you know he's on intel? The only thing I see indicating chipset is OS version...which runs on powerpc or intel. The 1st question I asked What hardware are you using. Especially what processor? What are you smoking? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Jan 8, 2010, at 9:47 PM, mike wrote: Except windows isn't any more or less defective than OS X Nobody with any experience with computers would agree to that. If all you are going to do is spout propaganda you are wasting our time. Just go over to the Wildlist site and read the long list of active Windows viruses. Vs. OS X with zero. http://www.wildlist.org/WildList/200911.htm * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
Calm yourself, take a breath...maybe I missed that email because I only have ONE from Bill and nowhere does it say he is running intel. So he must have answered you backchannel or I'm just missing an email. BTW, I asked how you know he's running intel...not if you asked him...soo...the question is probably what are *you* smoking? On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:01 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:59 PM, mike wrote: This is probably a stupid question...but how do you know he's on intel? The only thing I see indicating chipset is OS version...which runs on powerpc or intel. The 1st question I asked What hardware are you using. Especially what processor? What are you smoking? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
Again not addressing the core issue...no surprise there. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:00 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 8, 2010, at 9:47 PM, mike wrote: Except windows isn't any more or less defective than OS X Nobody with any experience with computers would agree to that. If all you are going to do is spout propaganda you are wasting our time. Just go over to the Wildlist site and read the long list of active Windows viruses. Vs. OS X with zero. http://www.wildlist.org/WildList/200911.htm * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP
+--+ | MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP | | from the someone-is-gonna-love-that dept. | | posted by CmdrTaco on Friday January 08, @12:54 (Cellphones) | | https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/01/08/165231/MagicJack-Femtocell-Gates-Cell-Traffic-to| +--+ olsmeister writes MagicJack is demonstrating a [0]femtocell device at CES that will [1]allow any GSM phone (locked or unlocked) to place free phone calls over the internet using VOIP. The device costs $40 and includes free service for 1 year. It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house. Discuss this story at: http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10/01/08/165231 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
