Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Alvin Auerbach sez: Mathew, Thanks for the idea, but when I try to move the messages, they just bounce back to the Inbox. Also, Mail doesn't allow the Inbox to be rebuilt (at least on my machine!). It would be interesting if it's allowable on someone else's machine. Alvin Download OnyX for the Mac OS you have: http://www.titanium.free.fr/index_us.html According to the thread here http://www.tidbits.com/webx?14@@.3cb7a1fc/ 1 it has a selection to force a rebuild of all mailboxes. Check that thread as there may be some other tips you can try as well. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apple lowering prices? Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] A[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.6.3 build 4504 English (PPC) http://www.ctmdev.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {956:box254.bluehost.com:loisdela:offbalance.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.253.234.88 authed with michael+offbalance.com} Larry Sacks sez: And it was written more than a year ago. Thanks for proving my point. :-) If your point is that currently there is a bigger price disparity than there was a year ago, that is probably true. However, Apple has warned investors and financial analysts to expect profit margins to drop soon. There is speculation that this will be due to some price drops coming on computer systems. Apple tends to release system bumps or changes at the end of the year, often actually in January at Macworld Expo. I'm ready to get my Intel Mac; my 8 year old and 4 year old G4 systems are creaking for the work I do now. If I find a good deal, I may buy now, but I'm tempted to wait at least until Macworld and see if anything changes. Plus, with the economy the way it is now, maybe I should hold off on any bigger purchases. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Zune [was: iTunes 8 causing BSOD]
Why do we still insist on playing this price game? This ComputerWorld article is a good one about the facts and myths about PC and Mac pricing: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do? command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9023959 And it was written more than a year ago. And it acknowledges this argument has been going on for more than 10 years and longer. I guess posting this here won't stop it on this list, but one can hope. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!
Jeff Wright sez: You can either enjoy choice or being told what to do. I promise to act surprised as to what decision you make. God, what a nasty person. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I-pod Touch good replacement for PDA ?
mike sez: I haven't poked around on both a lot, but isn't it more like the ipod touch is an iphone without the phone? Are there any other differences major or minor? Yes, the iPod Touch is basically an iPhone without the phone bits. It has WiFi connectivity, so one can do all the internet stuff from mail to web surfing and more if you're in the presence of a wireless network. (The iPhone has WiFi There are services around to use for connecting to messengers (from iChat to MSN service). The main differences I know of: No camera No external speaker(s) No microphone The iPod Touch is also slightly thinner, and I've read some think the screen isn't comparable to the iPhone (blacks are not rendered as well and it feels different). Lastly there is still debate over whether the iPod Touch has Bluetooth or not. Some say it is in there but disabled, some say no. I figure if it is in there, it's disabled until they work out using stereo Bluetooth headphones with it, which is something an iPod user would want more than an iPhone user might. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] .MOV to .mp4
Tom Piwowar sez: My question is: Do I have to do this in order to make a DVD that will play on my TV's DVD player or could I just stop at .m4v? I came a bit late to this, but i don't think anyone has just suggested dropping the video clips onto iMovie? If you have a Mac and iMovie, you should be able to drop any clip that Quicktime can play onto iMovie's clip pane. It'll convert the clip to DV, stretching it as need to fit the standard ratio window -- or so it has for the times I've used it. Then you can put the clips together, arrange them, edit them, add chapter markers, and then Share to iDVD to make your DVD that will play in a TV DVD player. I've used this for various filetypes, even YouTube videos I've snagged. (Okay, I admit I've forgotten if I converted the .flv file to something else first before dropping on iMovie. I know I've dropped .wmv and .mov and other files on it.) The quality, of course, leaves a lot to be desired once you've grabbed a web video, converted and stretched it, but it's not unwatchable... usually. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I-pod Touch good replacement for PDA ?
John Duncan Yoyo sez: An I-pod touch is a MP3 player with extras, A Palm is a PDA Personal Data Assistant that keeps data like calendars appointments etc. Its main function is keeping data for you, not MP3 playing. Not exactly right. The iPod Touch can sync with Address Book and iCal just like the iPhone can. Entry can be made into the calendar and contacts, too, for sync to your comptuer. Also, it can be used with MobileMe for the email, calendar, addressbook pushing and all. See http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features.html#calendar and http:// www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features.html#contacts. If you're in an enterprise setting using MS Exchange, there is this: http:// www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/. The iPodTouch can access the App Store, as well, and there are tons of apps ready for use, many free or very low cost. More apps are being added daily. If you find a used iPod Touch at a good price, updating it to 2.0 software so it can use the App store is just $20. Someone asked in another email if there was a writing application. See as examples: http://textguruapp.com/ ($4.99) http://magicpad.proximi.com/ ($3.99) So, the answer as to whether the iPhone/iPod Touch can be a replacement for a Palm/other PDA device is yes and no. It really depends on what you need, how you work, etc. A writing application on a Palm/other PDA might do something the iPod one does not and vice versa. One would have to try it out, most likely, to know if one or the other works the way you like to work. Stop by an Apple Store and give one a try. Talk to the employees there to see if you can try out certain apps (several have demo modes); they reset the computers and everything each night or week as far as I know. To say the iPod Touch is an MP3 player with extras really does not do justice to what those extras are. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPhoto (Was: Interesting quotes about using a Mac)
A[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.6.3 build 4504 English (PPC) http://www.ctmdev.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {956:box254.bluehost.com:loisdela:offbalance.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.253.234.88 authed with michael+offbalance.com} Constance Warner wrote: Does anyone know a less expensive (or shareware) photo organizing program--with some editing features--that works with Mac? Or is there a work-around for iPhoto that would fix this problem? You can right-click on any photo within iPhoto and choose to Show File or Show Original File. This will bring up the file in the Finder for you to do with whatever you want. I find it to be handy, actually, since I don't have to go through several files with names like picture1 then picture2 then picture3-edit1 etc. to find what I want. iPhoto doesn't allow me to have several edits at once show up in it, but if I want that there is more expensive software which includes it. Jordan sez: I used GraphicConverter for many years and still like it for many reasons. I also like and use the software that came with my Nikon camera. Jordan GraphicConverter is a good editing program. I haven't found much better for organization than iPhoto that is free (or less than the cost of an iPhoto upgrade considering you get several apps in an iLife upgrade). Google's Picasa is similar to iPhoto but is still Windows-only last I checked. It also has its idiosyncrasies. In iPhoto's preferences, you can choose to Edit Photo: in a different application. iPhoto can be tied to GraphicConverter, GIMP, or any number of other programs for more robust editing if need be. Caveat: I am currently using iPhoto 6.0.6. Names of functions or functions themselves may be different in iPhoto '08. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPhoto (Was: Interesting quotes about using a Mac)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.6.3 build 4504 English (PPC) http://www.ctmdev.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {956:box254.bluehost.com:loisdela:offbalance.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.253.234.88 authed with michael+offbalance.com} A Google search I did found the following which may prove useful. I;ve never used the software mentioned, so I can't say anything about it one way or the other. You might find something helpful among the list, though. http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~fuhrer/personal/freestuff/iphotodiet/ http://www.scruffyware.com/products/iPhotoLibrarian.html http://lightboxsoftware.com/ -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: TERMINATION OF YOUR STARPOWER WEBMAIL ACCOUNT]
Chris Dunford sez: This is a classic phishing scam, so delete it and forget about it. Never respond to ANY email that asks for passwords, account numbers, etc. Also, never click on links to websites in emails that ask you to verify your information. If it is a company/bank that you do have an account with or regularly do business with, go to their website yourself and sign in. Then use their customer service pages to contact them about whatever the issue is. Of course, this does not necessarily include verification emails with links sent to you when you sign on to a forum or service. However, once you are signed in and verified, do not click on links in emails that are supposedly from them. It only adds a second or two of time and will ensure you're not clicking on faked links in email. (Ah, the wonders of HTML mail. :) Usually if you choose to view the source of an HTML-ized email -- even those made to look like plain text -- the full link will show it doesn't go where one thought it might.) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers
Michael S. Altus sez: dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum That looks like Morse code. Is it an electronic tone? Are there pauses in it (to determine the exact letters)? Do you live close to a aircraft navigation beacon (usually or some other radio signal tower? My speakers pick up feedback from my cell phone. It goes off occasionally, probably as the phone is checking nearby connections, and goes off wildly when ringing. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes mess
gerald sez: is there an easy way to clean the dupes? i can see them, but do not want to go in and delete each one individually. This site has a pretty good procedure for handling duplicates when youhave time and a small problem: http://www.methodshop.com/gadgets/ipodsupport/duplicates/index.shtml However, since you know these are dupes of files you had and not possibly the same song from different albums (like a regular and a live version), you would probably like to sort out the MP3 or AAC files and just delete those. Here is how: 1. Select your music library (Music under Library on the left column). 2. In the right window, click Kind. This will sort your music files by the type they are. 3. Decide if you want to keep your MP3 files or your AAC files. Remember that anything you might have purchased at the regular 99 cent cost from iTunes Music Store will be Protected AAC -- but these should show up grouped separately from AAC Audio File. 4. Select the first song in the list of the type you want to delete. For example, select the first MPEG Audio File if those are going. 5. Scroll down to the last of that file type in the list and hold the SHIFT key while selecting it. This should select all of the files between it and the first one you selected. 6. Right-Click on the selected files and choose Delete or Move to Trash or whatever it is from the pop-up menu. 7. After it is done, scroll through your list and verify everything looks good before you empty that trash can/recycle bin! If your iTunes doesn't show Kind in the right-hand part of the window, you can turn on that column by choosing View--View Options and checking Kind in the list that comes up. Also, remember you can drag the columns into an order you prefer -- I moved my Kind column to the 4th column since it's important for me as I make my own music and have AAC or MP3 depending on what I want to send to people. Hope this helps! -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business
mike sez: Or they realize the pc's they provide work just fine and macs are overpriced for just running one piece of software. Because Mac Minis are extremely expensive, and providing computers your employees are comfortable with and which provide fewer maintenance issues so your IT personnel can spend valuable, expensive time working on something other than spyware problems are never issues to consider at all. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones
Steve Rigby sez: This is from a July 17 article in Infoworld explaining how and why Apple is now the third largest computer vendor in the United States, surpassing Acer: In a mass market dominated by sensitive budgets and buyers, Apple is catering to specific buyers who are immune from the economic slowdown. +++ If that is the case, how does Apple Corp. identify those amongst us who are immune from the economic slowdown? Who are the immune? Where are they to be found? Is anybody truly immune and unaffected? Are there really enough of them to have been responsible for Apple's increasing sales? I use Macs. I did not know that I was so blessed. Steve More crap Mac reporting. I use Macs and am far from immune to the economic slowdown. Maybe Mac users just know how to manage their money, time, and resources well in order to get the toys they want to use -- just like anyone else who wants to buy something in particular (be it a Mac, a top PC, a cool car, etc.). -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: Safari on the Windows Platform
mike sez: MS agreed to fix it without incident, Apple was refusing until recently. According to the researcher who found the issue though, MS fixing their end still leaves a problem that can be exploited in Safari. You really do have an awful lot of time counting the minutes between when one company decides to change its course (Microsoft points fingers and then will make a change) and then another company decides to change course, too (Apple refusing until recently). Since both have changed, sounds like neither of them win. The customers win. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: Safari on the Windows Platform
mike sez: Or if Apple fixed it... Sounds to me as if either Apple or Microsoft could do something to fix it. Both companies apparently think they have better things to do, so us arguing from our respective prejudices doesn't do anything. Best to tell people to change their download folder from the desktop, but I suppose it's more fun to be misanthropic jerks. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fool MLS: Make Safari look like IE on Windows?
Alvin Auerbach sez: For some reason, the real estate industry's MLS on the Web will work only on IE on Windows. Is there a way to fool MLS, and make Safari on a Mac look like IE on Windows? Thanks, Alvin - Go to Preferences. - Click to show the Advanced panel. - At bottom, check the Show Develop menu in menu bar option. - Close the panel and go to the new Develop menubar selection. Under that will be a place to select User Agent. Choose the IE version you wish to try and see if it works. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Now #1
A[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] A[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.6.3 build 4504 English (PPC) http://www.ctmdev.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {956:box254.bluehost.com:loisdela:offbalance.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.253.234.88 authed with michael+offbalance.com} Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian) sez: You twisted it into an M$-fanboy post, which is okay, but was not my point. And he gave some good ol' anti-Apple DRM FUD, too, considering many songs (maybe a majority or all now -- I haven't looked), are available at higher bit rates with no DRM from iTunes. It may still depend on the music company since Apple has to work with those companies to deal with all these rights issues, but the fact is one can get higher quality non- DRMed music from iTunes. It's the companies that want the DRM. Apple is indifferent to it, as state by Jobs in an open letter concerning DRM. To insinuate differently is bull. -- Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
mike sez: Calm down, man...take a breather. I'm not anti mac...I'd have one if I could justify the cost, I have no problem at all with them...less probably then windows. I'll calm down when people can post information without using the words blind Mac zealots. (Thus the reason I chose to begin addressing anti- mac zealots.) Dunno if that was you or not. I've deleted all the messages and had my say. On to other things. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.6.3 build 4504 English (PPC) http://www.ctmdev.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {956:box254.bluehost.com:loisdela:offbalance.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.253.234.88 authed with michael+offbalance.com} Chris Dunford sez: If I make intercede here just a bit: the phrase you mentioned, blind Mac zealots referred to the people, not the machine. That is precisely my point. It does no good to call people zealots for liking the particular computer they use. Why use something they hate, anyway? I would rather we not refer to people as zealots, morons, idiots, or any number of other derogatory terms. Just provide the information without the misanthropic commentary. In any event, there wasn't any anti-Mac zealotry. I don't know of anyone here who is anti-Mac; I know only of people here who are anti-Windows. You must not have been around here very long. If our chief Mac evangelist can consistently refer to Windows users with the insulting phrase Windows fanboys, then I don't know what's wrong with saying Mac zealots (although it was not my phrase). Because two wrongs don't make a right. Because I don't necessarily agree with calling Windows users names, either, and think it is non-productive. But, hey, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. I've seen the My Computer Is Better Than Yours wars going on since the days of Atari and Commodore and before. Why should I expect there not to be enough hatemongers to annoy the rest of us and make an otherwise decent forum/website/mail list experience end up being dreaded. And, by the way, choosing not to use a computer system might make one anti-whatever, but what turns one into an anti-whatever-zealot is the need to couch everything one mentions in negative terms, gotchas, etc. I don't care if you prefer Windows, Macs, Linux, or the old TI99-4A. But if you can't say Such and such computer today had a security issue without adding stupid such-and-such blind moron idiots then I'd rather you go somewhere else and pollute some less informative part of the internet. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
You people and your anti-mac zealotry. The fact the MacBook Air was hacked first is only because people at the event didn't bother hacking the other systems. Other articles quote attendees saying so. They wanted to get the Mac because that's where the cred and kudos lie. Any script kiddy can jack up a Windows box. Linux is tougher, as well as the Mac. In fact, they had to relax the rules of the contest after no one got into any of the systems via network. Once he could direct organizers to a website, Miller put into place things he had been working on for a month or more -- things he could have told Apple about long ago but he doesn't care about security. He wants hacker fame and free money and equipment. Even if he believed Apple never plugs security holes, he could have told them and still done this since lazy ol' Apple wouldn't have plugged it; but he didn't, because he wanted his name in the news and a free computer. These people are schmucks. If they really cared about us peons out here, they would hand over their research to Apple, MicroSoft and the rest rather than sitting back and laughing at us on the way to their banks. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No call list
So it is not as much a do not call list, but a do let anyone who does not have a relationship call you list. Another part of the Do Not Call legislation is these places must provide means for you to ask them not to call you again and they must comply if you ask. Even automated calls usually provide a number to press if you do not wish to receive any more calls from them, or they have an option to talk to a human at which point you can ask them to remove you from their list. My elderly mother was receiving several calls a week from questionable companies offering all sorts of things for older people (supplemental insurance of questionable value, services she already gets through other sources, warranty deals on things that are well beyond the need to be warranteed, etc.). I started answering the phone and telling them to bug off since she had some trouble navigating their menus or often felt she had to apologize and such when talking to them. She doesn't feel that way anymore and has asked several to leave her alone. The phone calls she gets have dropped to only a few a month now, usually from places claiming prior business or from non-profits... I personally hate opt-out b.s. (I don't believe they should call in the first place) but at least the majority in my experience have stopped calling when I asked them to. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] find tracking device on truck
Steve Rigby sez: A company named Optoelectronics makes some of these: http://www.optoelectronics.com/ Right on their home page is what one would want to do the job. They have one that carries a MSRP of $129.00. I'll add this link to the list as well: http://www.usaspyshop.com/spy-detector-p-1064.html I can't vouch for it; just trying to locate possibilities like others are. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] ebay experiences
John DeCarlo sez: I would call them and talk to a human. Tell them you think you were the victim of a phishing attack and to stop activity on your account until you confirm you can get back in. Don't rely on anything else, not email, nothing. And ask them to check for activity, you will almost certainly be unpleasantly surprised. Yes. Never, EVER answer email from eBay, PayPal, a bank, or any other institution that you do business through. The majority of these places have messages within their sites. Always log on through a secure connection in your web browser -- using your own links and NOT the ones provided in the email -- and see if there is a copy of the email you received in your message box. 99% of the time, there will be none. No legitimate (or even semi-legitimate) business will contact you through email concerning account and other private information. You may receive a notice asking you to log on and confirm things, but if so, you do so through your own link and not any link provided in the email and you should find a copy of the message in any messages their system has. If there is no copy or there is no messaging system in the site, call them and talk to a human if the request is bothering you. I just ignore them if I log on and see everything is in order. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Transferring video from DVD into iMovie
David Turk sez: I have some video clips on a DVD I'd like to get into iMovie, but Importing doesn't seem to work. Any thoughts? tia. david iMovie will import many video file types, but not the VOB files that make up DVD movies. (Licensing issues, I believe.) You'll need to first convert the DVD using another tool. I've used the following: Handbrake: Free, open-source, but not necessarily easy to use (there have been changes to the current version 0.9.1 since the v0.8.5 I have used, so the interface may be better now, if still a bit techie) http://handbrake.fr/ Roxio's Popcorn: Costs $49.99, but has a fairly intuitive interface and can be used for a lot more conversion duties easily http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/popcorn/standard/overview.html Remember that DVD video is compressed from the original. So when you convert it and then edit it, if you then put it back on a DVD it'll be compressed again and may lose quality further. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Filemaker personal for $49.00
Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) sez: Yes, FileMaker announced their Bento database product today. Many Mac sites, such as this one from Macnn, have articles. $50 for single license, $100 for family (5) license. 10.5 is required. http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/08/01/08/filemaker.ships.bento/ Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Anyone heard about this? Meet Bento, the new personal database from FileMaker that's as easy to use as your Mac. Bento brings your important information together in one place to help you get organized. So you can manage your contacts, coordinate events, track projects, prioritize tasks, and more - faster and easier than ever before http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/style.html It's about time! I love Filemaker Pro and can wrangle a pretty mean database, but for the majority of my personal needs, FMPro is just way too much, both in price and in features. I look forward to checking out the Bento pages, the video overviews and all to see if it includes just enough to get the job done or if it's missing something I've gotten used to in FMPro... Overall, looks cool though. Always a plus to have a real database program instead of using a spreadsheet as a database. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS 9 Emulator on Intel? [Was Macintosh Question]
Tom Piwowar sez: MY question is: When some year I purchase a MacIntel computer, will there be an emulator for it that will run Mac OS 9? Yes there is one. I have not tried it and can't remember its name. SheepShaver. http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/sheepshaver It emulates a PowerPC computer and runs systems 7.5.2 through 9.0.4. Here is a blog article by someone who has installed and used it: http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/08/7352/ There is also BasiliskII http://basilisk.cebix.net/. It emulates older 68K macs and can run older Macintosh systems. From it's homepage: Emulates either a Mac Classic (which runs MacOS 0.x thru 7.5) or a Mac II series machine (which runs MacOS 7.x, 8.0 and 8.1), depending on the ROM being used. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions 240-271-9889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macintosh Question
Two great web sites for people looking for information about older Macintosh systems and how to upgrade them are: http://www.lowendmac.com http://www.xlr8yourmac.com The latter one is a FrankenMac lover's dream! Enjoy! -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
David Turk sez: I struggle with this all the time when doing freelance work. I can do a portrait in my sleep, but does that mean since it's easy for me, it should be cheap? Most photographers feel they're charging for their expertise skills Exactly. It took me a long time to realize this. It probably is what put me in the most trouble. For the longest time I would charge portions of an hour if the job was a quickie, and just as quickly I was missing paying my bills. Heh heh. Once I began charging a two-hour minimum to account for driving time (time spent on the road that I can't be working with another client) and prep time (if I have to download any update files, etc. before I go), I found a number of things happened. One, I stopped grumbling so much about the terrible traffic around here. That, of course leads to a much better mood when I arrive. :) Also, my clients began to avail themselves of that two hours if what I was there to do didn't fill it, which means they asked more questions, took more notes, and learned a lot more. Sometimes I was able to write up instruction sheets for whatever I did while I was there. So, basically, while I did it to cover drive time, the minimum is that expertise and skills bit really. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Advice on Mac for very senior citizen
Andy Gallant sez: A very senior citizen (92 years young) asked me to help him get and set up a Mac mainly to use the web. His vision is somewhat impaired (cataracts) and his hearing isn't what it used to be. We're looking at the 17 inch or 20 inch iMac. Does anyone have experience or advice to share? Also, any suggestions on a printer would be welcome - useability is important. Thanks in advance. -Andy Gallant Ensure you go into Universal Access in the System Preferences and turn on or set any assistive settings he will need. A few that come to mind might be: Seeing/Voiceover: a number of things that will speak text to him. You can turn off all the navigation ones and leave on, for example, just speaking text his mouse is hovering over. Seeing/Zoom: turn this on. If you go to the Keyboard Mouse panel, you can click the checkbox to Zoom using the scroll wheel while holding a key you choose (I have selected Control). IT works whether or not Zoom is turned on in Universal Access. Mouse: You can change the mouse cursor size here so he can see the mouse pointer better if necessary. Also, ensure that he knows he can highlight text in most programs (Mail, Safari, etc.) then go to the menu under: Program Name Services Speech Start Speaking Text The computer will read the highlighted text to him. It may be possible to get some software (I can help you look some up if you want) to assign Start Speaking Text and Stop Speaking Text to a function key which you could label for him. Also, I would suggest getting a USB headset which he could use to help hear with. You don't mention if he has hearing aids, which would require an earphone that could reach the hearing aid if it is the over-the-ear style. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Am I a spammer?
Charlie Wilson sez: I am concerned that some of my e-mail is being identified as spam. Along with what Tony said, I have a problem where my provider is flagged as a spammer. Why? Because a lot of the people that use my provider simply forward their email from there automatically to their AOL accounts. AOL sees a bunch of spam coming in and assumes it is coming from my provider rather than actually being forwarded from an email account to one of their customers and flags the provider as a spammer. Then, I can't send email to my clients that have AOL accounts. AOL puts them on a blacklist, and then I can't send mail to Comcast and a couple others that use the black list. My provider has argued with AOL tons of times but AOL refuses to change their scripts that check incoming email. And the saddest thing is I have to contact these clients and the problem is expanding to other providers who don't care but are too big to ignore -- so I'm probably going to have to move my email account and penalize my provider who really is doing nothing wrong. Short of changing your email to a provider that has a special relationship with the providers you need to contact, all you can do is wait until your provider gets off the black list. You could yell at your provider, and if they are kicking off real spammers or handling people who have had their computers compromised, they can't do much against the big companies. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I compress MPG files
Paula Minor sez: Michael, I used iMovie and imported my mpg movie into it with no problem and it plays but the sound is missing. For anyone watching this thread, I'd just like to pass on that we fixed Paula's sound issue. Both she and I located a free application called MPEG StreamClip. http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html iMovie does not import the soundtracks of some MPEG 1 or MPEG 2 movies (insert a whole bunch of mumbo jumbo about sound file types, muxed and demuxed, and other stuff here :) ). StreamClip will convert movies to other file types. So, in this case, Paula converted the MPEG to Digital Video (DV), brought it into iMovie, and then used the Share command to save it with better compression so she could get it up on YouTube under the 100MB filesize limit. I'll let Paul tell more about the process as well as provide the link to the movie she worked on. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Paula Minor sez: Thanks, Tom. Worth a try. I'm still learning how to troubleshoot on a Mac. I had no idea how to find out if the USB ports were working. But I could have on my pc. System Profiler in your Utilities folder (in Applications) should give you full information about your system, including if USB ports are present and if anything is attached to them. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Jeff Wright sez: Kinda makes my original point, don't ya think? Nope. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I compress MPG files
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.2.2 build 4404 English http://www.ctmdev.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paula -- I think Handbrake is mainly a program for work with DVDs. I admit I haven't looked at it very closely, so my initial look could be fooling me. However, you should have everything you need on your Mac if you have iMovie or have purchased Quicktime Pro. Try what I've created at the following link and see if it's helpful: http://web.mac.com/offbalance/iWeb/Off%20Balance%20Stuph/Movie% 20Compression/Movie%20Compression.html -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Art Clemons sez: Jeff Wright: Do you actually think Gore had the faintest idea of what was yet to come in 1989? His bill was for a top-down researcher's network using supercomputers, something that is the exact opposite of the Internet today. It was an appropriation that was eventually in the right place and the right time. He got lucky. So did Nostrodamus I wonder if the internet as we know it would exist if Gore hadn't been lucky as you put it. Gore has flaws, but dislike for him doesn't mean that he shouldn't get more acclaim for what he did. Exactly. I choose to listen to Vint Cerf, undisputed as one of the Founding Fathers of the Internet who said of Al Gore while defending him from that false I invented the Internet meme: VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term 'information infrastructure' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it. Source: Internet archive of mids.org: http://web.archive.org/web/ 2125065813/http://www.mids.org/mn/904/vcerf.html Gore had much to do with legislation that did, according to Cerf, build the Internet. It is true, though, that Gore was popularizing the term 'information superhighway' in the early 1990s (although he did not, as is often claimed by others, coin the phrase himself) when few people outside academia or the computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet, and he sponsored the 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a national computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic). In May 2005, the organizers of the Webby Awards for online achievements honored Al Gore with a lifetime achievement award for three decades of contributions to the Internet. 'He is indeed due some thanks and consideration for his early contributions,' said Vint Cerf. -- Source: Snopes http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Jeff Wright sez: Exactly. I choose to listen to Vint Cerf, undisputed as one of the Founding Fathers of the Internet who said of Al Gore while defending him from that false I invented the Internet meme: Do you mean this Vint Cerf? I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he wrote an op-ed pimping and defending Gore back in the day. Yes. That Vint Cerf. You know, the one who: ...is a North American computer scientist who is commonly referred to as one of the founding fathers of the Internet for his key technical and managerial role, together with Bob Kahn, in the creation of the Internet and the TCP/IP protocols which it uses. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinton_Cerf Big deal if he gives money to a political party. Lots of people do. That makes him NOT a founding father of the Internet with probably enough clout to claim who else assisted in building the Internet only in the minds of people who like to misrepresent facts to further their own agendae. Why are we all inside on this beautiful Sunday anyway? -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DISCUSSION: XFN, social networking metatags
Tony B sez: To equate modern blogging (keeping a diary online) to the Federalist Papers or even Dvorak's writing is just too silly to comment on. And it's also way off topic. No topic hijacking please. Is not. And you already hijacked it by giving your opinion about blogs rather than answering if you had read about or used XFN. Sow what you reap. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived