Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
Graphicconverter is great. And it doesn't take a half minute to open. I'm still using it in nonpaid mode and it only takes about 10-15secs. to open. Due to Graphic Converter I've pretty much stopped using Photoshop, which does take about a full minute to open. Jeff M On May 9, 2009, at 11:48 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net wrote: So we have: GIMP Picasa Corel Paint Shop Pro Adobe Elements Nikon Software with her camera We do not know what OS is involved in this query about photo editing software. For the Mac, there is Graphic Converter. It is shareware. It is an extensive editing package. It will run without an authorization code, but with a little caveat...it will take about a half minute or so to open. Steve ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: Graphicconverter is great. And it doesn't take a half minute to open. I'm still using it in nonpaid mode and it only takes about 10-15secs. to open. Due to Graphic Converter I've pretty much stopped using Photoshop, which does take about a full minute to open. Graphic Converter should, at some point in time, begin to take 30 seconds to activate if one is using it in non-paid mode. In the earlier stages of use in non-paid mode, it does take but 10 or so seconds to activate and open, but over a period of time, that lag will increase to a maximum of 30 seconds. At least that has been the case through version 6.0. However, even 30 seconds of waiting time is not really a problem. Who could be in such a rush in the first place? After all, it'll take quite some time to get that photo editing right, so what's another 30 seconds? That being said, I did pay my licensing fee because I appreciated the work the author did in developing the program. Photoshop takes longer to open the first time it is being run after having started up the computer, at least on the Mac. Subsequent openings of the program, unless the computer has been shut down, will be considerable faster. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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As it happens, I just ran across a new writeup of eight free, lightweight Photoshop alternatives: http://tinyurl.com/qr6dow * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently than the old stuff. I suspect you are going to have even greater problems when we start saying the pictures are in the cloud. Aren't these programs more of a specialized finder for pictures. Picassa sorts through the whole drive and finds all pictures for you. Most probably reside in the standard location for pictures and lots of junk that happens to be in a picture format. Saying it is in Picassa is like saying it is in the viewfinder. True for that image but not true for the physical location. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net escribió: Graphicconverter is great. And it doesn't take a half minute to open. I'm still using it in nonpaid mode and it only takes about 10-15secs. to open. Due to Graphic Converter I've pretty much stopped using Photoshop, which does take about a full minute to open. GraphicConverter opens very quickly after you pay for it and register. Those reminders to pay for it are really annoying, aren't they? It's one of the better shareware programs I've used, and is very easy to use. Mac only. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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If you are not a regular user of Picassa, you may not know that a right mouse click on a photo provides an option to Locate On Disk which pops up the folder in which the photo resides. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently than the old stuff. I suspect you are going to have even greater problems when we start saying the pictures are in the cloud. Aren't these programs more of a specialized finder for pictures. Picassa sorts through the whole drive and finds all pictures for you. Most probably reside in the standard location for pictures and lots of junk that happens to be in a picture format. Saying it is in Picassa is like saying it is in the viewfinder. True for that image but not true for the physical location. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I have yet to see a backup program offer to backup all the pictures 'in' photoshop. Reason? It's a stupid concept. Bad comparison. Photoshop is not a photo manager. The closest it comes to that is Bridge with VersionCue and there I would say the pics are in VersionCue. Adobe sells a photo manager separately from Photoshop, called LightRoom. I think a user of LightRoom could say the photos are in LightRoom. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Over a long IT career, I did go from knowing exactly which volume and track numbers had my data, to letting the OS manage the data, not caring where or even what type of media it was on. But that was within one responsible enterprise. Thank you. Good example. I guess I AM having problems with my data in the cloud, not so much where it is, but who is responsible for it and can I trust not losing my valuable family photos into the vapor. Well that is a matter of trust, not a rejection of the concept. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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For that matter, the WalMart website has some easy editing features with good quality prints and matte finish for the same price ...it warns you if the pixilation is not appropriate for the size requested ...it also offers something cool, a uncropped odd size print that is wider so you don't lose anything on your enlargements ...neat! -Original Message- From: db [mailto:db...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Photo editing software Picasa isn't a professional or enthusiast's editor but it enables others ... of which there are many now that digital cameras are $129 and everywhere ... to upload, process, publish, edit, send or publish their pics with a minimum of learning curve, skills and fuss. Yes... professionals/ enthusiasts would know and want to know file management, file size, compression and rotation issues but why should everyone else know that if they just want to get their pics out of their camera, remove some pink eye, email them or put them on the web for friends and perhaps send some to Walgreens drugstore to get some 4x6 prints mailed back. Why should they care where their pics are on their computer if Picasa knows (and will tell you if you want to know...)?... why does it matter which way is up if Picasa transparently takes care of that when needed in process?... why should people have to laboriously create separate sets of low res pics for emailing or web purposes if Picasa will resize as appropriate when needed? In a time when SO MANY pics NEVER get out of people's cameras, I think Picasa is a wonderful and invaluable photo processing tool. I have had and used Photoshop for years and still use it for real retouching/modding but I AM SO GLAD that Picasa came along because now I can attend an event with friends, shoot pics and short videos, come home upload and web publish them for my friends in 10 mins before I go to bed. FOR FREE ... or close to free. I am so relieved that Picasa has come along and eliminated all the photo processing drudgery for me when I don't need to or care to partake in it. db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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GIMP has lots of details and features ...quite steep learning curve for novice Picasa is idiotware The others I don't know... Microsoft is offering Windows Live with lots of picture manipulation software... I have windowsXP and I still use PhotoEd.exe (came with office 2002/2003 ...deleted from office 2007 but you can find it around) and I also use Paint ...together, they do quite a bit... -Original Message- From: John Mealey III [mailto:john.meal...@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Photo editing software So we have: GIMP Picasa Corel Paint Shop Pro Adobe Elements Nikon Software with her camera I'm leaning to Picasa as hiding how some things operate might be useful in this particular case. Thanks, John * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/09/09 06:54:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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My wife will be running Windows XP. I just spent a few hours with the latest version of iPhoto. It actually makes it difficult to maintain a files-in-folders mindset. It automatically imports photos when the camera is connected with very little user interaction. It organizes photos into events based on the time the photos were taken and by person using face recognition. This takes a bit of getting used to, but I'm now even more certain that what I was saying yesterday is correct. The new way is a lot smarter. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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WHERE the pics are is important because some of those pics should be backed up. Ask the average Picasa user where their pictures are, and you'll get an absurd answer like They're in Picasa!. That is a perfectly sensible and correct answer. No better and no worse than saying that the files are in a particular directory. Seeing how most people manage files in directories I think it is far better to have them in Picassa. You are just stuck in the over-complicated past. Isn't the exact location of the photos designated [by the user] in Preferences? Or, on a Mac, the photos would automatically be stored in the Pictures folder. On a PC it might default to My Documents. A good backup program would be set to look for changes, additions, deletions anyway. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... And (for Windows) if you don't modify with the above after installing Picassa, the default is the My Pictures folder in My Documents. How much simpler can it be? Tom Piwowar wrote: WHERE the pics are is important because some of those pics should be backed up. Ask the average Picasa user where their pictures are, and you'll get an absurd answer like They're in Picasa!. That is a perfectly sensible and correct answer. No better and no worse than saying that the files are in a particular directory. Seeing how most people manage files in directories I think it is far better to have them in Picassa. You are just stuck in the over-complicated past. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Isn't the exact location of the photos designated [by the user] in Preferences? Or, on a Mac, the photos would automatically be stored in the Pictures folder. On a PC it might default to My Documents. A good backup program would be set to look for changes, additions, deletions anyway. Yes. But the software manages the originals and modified versions. If somebody goes into its folders and starts moving files and making changes the result will not be a happy event. If you need to export a file there is a command to do that safely. Why play with matches? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently than the old stuff. I suspect you are going to have even greater problems when we start saying the pictures are in the cloud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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WTF are you talking about? The pictures are NOT in a program. Programs cannot have pictures 'in' them. They are on the hard drive. I have yet to see a backup program offer to backup all the pictures 'in' photoshop. Reason? It's a stupid concept. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently than the old stuff. I suspect you are going to have even greater problems when we start saying the pictures are in the cloud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I'll admit to being folder centric. Yes, I've heard about new ways of organizing photos by characteristics, but for me, it makes sense to know where all my photos are and that they can be backed up easily just by copying My Pictures to another external HD. Over a long IT career, I did go from knowing exactly which volume and track numbers had my data, to letting the OS manage the data, not caring where or even what type of media it was on. But that was within one responsible enterprise. I guess I AM having problems with my data in the cloud, not so much where it is, but who is responsible for it and can I trust not losing my valuable family photos into the vapor. Again, folders work for me for my particular needs. Not knocking other methods. Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently than the old stuff. I suspect you are going to have even greater problems when we start saying the pictures are in the cloud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
2009/5/8 John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net: My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer. I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my 'honey do' list for this weekend. It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Elements OK? Elements is OK. Elements will handle all the basic editing functions she would need, and it is quite fast as well. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The issue for you, of course, is that there are many options available. Price and and the learning curve will vary. Since you don't already know what she wants, I'm guessing she's just getting started and so needs a new-user-friendly application that has the controls she will need. My first advice is to select a package and stick with it. They all do things differently, and if you jump from GIMP to Microsoft Photo Editor to Photoshop you will have a frustrating experience. Free option: GIMP. It's available for various operating systems and has the features most people will need. The learning curve is not the lowest, however. Second free option: The photo editing software that came with your digital camera or scanner. Often competent packages are bundled and they can provide a basis for getting the job done without having to spend any money. The lite packages that are included will have the features an amateur will need, and there may be an upgrade option for you if you outgrow it. Commercial software: I've been using Paint Shop Pro (now belongs to Corel) since it was a DOS program and have found that it has everything I need for the work I do. While its list price is about $100, I recently bought Version 11 (they call it XI) for less than $20. They're up to version X2 but frankly I use version 8 for most of my work since it has a feature I like that they took out later. Adobe Photoshop Elements is available in the $80 to $100 price range and also is a good package. Subject: Photo editing software From: John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:28:25 -0400 My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer. I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my 'honey do' list for this weekend. It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Elements OK? THanks, John Mealey * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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If we're taking a vote, I'd put Picasa at the bottom of any list. Yes, it simplifies things, but it does so by *hiding* everything from the user. i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management techniques are one of the first things a digital photographer MUST learn. Not with Picasa. After that, there's things like auto-rotation (don't learn how to rotate an image properly, we'll just display it right side up so you'll never know it's sideways), Sizing (looks good on your screen, but why can't you email it? Maybe because it's like 5000X5000 and 100mb?). And file types/compression techniques (what do you mean the pic I sent you has jpeg artifacting in it? It looks good here.). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Won't address your other criticisms, but File Management couldn't be easier. Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in I manage all in a My Pictures folder on an external HD. Tony B wrote: If we're taking a vote, I'd put Picasa at the bottom of any list. Yes, it simplifies things, but it does so by *hiding* everything from the user. i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management techniques are one of the first things a digital photographer MUST learn. Not with Picasa. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
Wired Magazine's March issue had a story about netbooks http://www.wired.com/wired/issue/17-03 that asked What about Photoshop? Their answer is http://fotoflexer.com/. Flickr.com also has photo editing tools. Betty My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer. I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my 'honey do' list for this weekend. It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Elements OK? THanks, John Mealey * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
So we have: GIMP Picasa Corel Paint Shop Pro Adobe Elements Nikon Software with her camera I'm leaning to Picasa as hiding how some things operate might be useful in this particular case. Thanks, John * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/09/09 06:54:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management techniques are one of the first things a digital photographer MUST learn. Not with Picasa. This can be a problem for folks who can't let go of old ideas. Picasa is managing your photographs and you don't really need to know where it is keeping your pictures. iPhoto works this way too. If innovation is to be more than an advertising slogan you need to be willing to accept improvements when they present themselves. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
Picasa isn't a professional or enthusiast's editor but it enables others ... of which there are many now that digital cameras are $129 and everywhere ... to upload, process, publish, edit, send or publish their pics with a minimum of learning curve, skills and fuss. Yes... professionals/ enthusiasts would know and want to know file management, file size, compression and rotation issues but why should everyone else know that if they just want to get their pics out of their camera, remove some pink eye, email them or put them on the web for friends and perhaps send some to Walgreens drugstore to get some 4x6 prints mailed back. Why should they care where their pics are on their computer if Picasa knows (and will tell you if you want to know...)?... why does it matter which way is up if Picasa transparently takes care of that when needed in process?... why should people have to laboriously create separate sets of low res pics for emailing or web purposes if Picasa will resize as appropriate when needed? In a time when SO MANY pics NEVER get out of people's cameras, I think Picasa is a wonderful and invaluable photo processing tool. I have had and used Photoshop for years and still use it for real retouching/modding but I AM SO GLAD that Picasa came along because now I can attend an event with friends, shoot pics and short videos, come home upload and web publish them for my friends in 10 mins before I go to bed. FOR FREE ... or close to free. I am so relieved that Picasa has come along and eliminated all the photo processing drudgery for me when I don't need to or care to partake in it. db Steve at Verizon wrote: Won't address your other criticisms, but File Management couldn't be easier. Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in I manage all in a My Pictures folder on an external HD. Tony B wrote: If we're taking a vote, I'd put Picasa at the bottom of any list. Yes, it simplifies things, but it does so by *hiding* everything from the user. i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management techniques are one of the first things a digital photographer MUST learn. Not with Picasa. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net wrote: So we have: GIMP Picasa Corel Paint Shop Pro Adobe Elements Nikon Software with her camera We do not know what OS is involved in this query about photo editing software. For the Mac, there is Graphic Converter. It is shareware. It is an extensive editing package. It will run without an authorization code, but with a little caveat...it will take about a half minute or so to open. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Picasa is now available for OS X... db phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net wrote: So we have: GIMP Picasa Corel Paint Shop Pro Adobe Elements Nikon Software with her camera We do not know what OS is involved in this query about photo editing software. For the Mac, there is Graphic Converter. It is shareware. It is an extensive editing package. It will run without an authorization code, but with a little caveat...it will take about a half minute or so to open. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Wired Magazine's March issue had a story about netbooks http://www.wired.com/wired/issue/17-03 that asked What about Photoshop? Their answer is http://fotoflexer.com/. Flickr.com also has photo editing tools. This looks really interesting, Betty. Thanks! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Male bovine manure! What exactly is the connection between storing files in places unknown or invisible to the user and technological advances? On May 9, 2009, at 3:24 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Date: May 9, 2009 1:05:12 PM EDT Subject: Re: Photo editing software i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management techniques are one of the first things a digital photographer MUST learn. Not with Picasa. This can be a problem for folks who can't let go of old ideas. Picasa is managing your photographs and you don't really need to know where it is keeping your pictures. iPhoto works this way too. If innovation is to be more than an advertising slogan you need to be willing to accept improvements when they present themselves. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Gramps exclaimed: Male bovine manure! What exactly is the connection between storing files in places unknown or invisible to the user and technological advances? You probably still insist on calling it DASD too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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My wife will be running Windows XP. THanks, John -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com]on Behalf Of phartz...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 2:49 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net wrote: So we have: GIMP Picasa Corel Paint Shop Pro Adobe Elements Nikon Software with her camera We do not know what OS is involved in this query about photo editing software. For the Mac, there is Graphic Converter. It is shareware. It is an extensive editing package. It will run without an authorization code, but with a little caveat...it will take about a half minute or so to open. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/09/09 06:54:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Because doing these things themsel;ves *teaches* people about how they're done. Yes, you can GIVE them fish, but if you don't teach them HOW to fish, they'll always be stupid. WHERE the pics are is important because some of those pics should be backed up. Ask the average Picasa user where their pictures are, and you'll get an absurd answer like They're in Picasa!. 2009/5/9 db db...@att.net: Why should they care where their pics are on their computer if Picasa knows (and will tell you if you want to know...)?... why does it matter which way is up if Picasa transparently takes care of that when needed in process?... why should people have to laboriously create separate sets of low res pics for emailing or web purposes if Picasa will resize as appropriate when needed? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Photo editing software
My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer. I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my 'honey do' list for this weekend. It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Elements OK? THanks, John Mealey * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
What does she want to do? Just get rid of red eye or is she a pro? A pro in the making? Go with the free one first...if she has no preference..GIMP is a good alternative. 2009/5/8 John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer. I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my 'honey do' list for this weekend. It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Elements OK? THanks, John Mealey * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Picasa is free and quite useful for basic editing and organizing. Online sharing is very useful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
Corel Paint Shop Pro. Very good compared to Photoshop. Stewart At 07:28 PM 5/8/2009, you wrote: My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer. I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my 'honey do' list for this weekend. It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Elements OK? THanks, John Mealey * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
I would say start with Picasa because you can have it installed and running in 5 mins for free and it's use is so transparent. If it isn't enough, move on. db Tom Piwowar wrote: It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition). Picasa is free and quite useful for basic editing and organizing. Online sharing is very useful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
