Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
On Mar 5, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: You said you were cheap (and did not tell us what you want to use the computer for), so that should be fine. A netbook would be even cheaper. Often people tell me they need a laptop, only to later discover that it is so much less convenient than a desktop and regret the purchase. A laptop is best bought for travel. You may want to look at some of the all-in one desktops as a compact alternative. While the best of class is the iMac, there are several PC vendors who make them too. Or you could buy an iMac, erase the drive, and install Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
I chose Toshiba because it had the delete key on the lower part of the keyboard, unlike other brands, which have the delete key on the upper right. Now I understand that Toshiba has exiled the delete key to the upper right. Anybody know of a laptop brand with the delete key down under? (While I'm at it, why do digests omit subject lines between posts?) Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.® Biomedical Writing and Editing al...@intensivecarecomm.com www.intensivecarecomm.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: You said you were cheap (and did not tell us what you want to use the computer for), so that should be fine. A netbook would be even cheaper. Often people tell me they need a laptop, only to later discover that it is so much less convenient than a desktop and regret the purchase. A laptop is best bought for travel. You may want to look at some of the all-in one desktops as a compact alternative. While the best of class is the iMac, there are several PC vendors who make them too. Or you could buy an iMac, erase the drive, and install Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
I'm sure you and many readers here know about this, but most model laptops can plug in to a docking station, so that you can easily use a larger monitor and full keyboard and mouse of choice. Also externally attached HDs. mike wrote: We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
Or..don't buy one of the big dells... On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, betty b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Dell notebooks are heavy and clunky, but not too bad. Toshiba makes excellent notebooks. If I were buying a Dell, I'd get the new Alien notebook. Alien finally has a smaller, still powerful notebook for a reasonable price. Apple also makes excellent PC notebooks, in case you forgot that they run both Windows and Mac OS X natively. The weight of the Dells won't matter as long as you don't plan to carry one around. Sony makes computers, so I hear, but I've owned a lot of Sony products and the only one that didn't die before its time was the Trinitron CRT display--never again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
That came up in our discussion on what we would do about her laptop. The cost of just building a solid system, I already had the case/keyboard/mouse/hard drives, and getting some kind of dock was not much different. Decided on the little tower instead. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I'm sure you and many readers here know about this, but most model laptops can plug in to a docking station, so that you can easily use a larger monitor and full keyboard and mouse of choice. Also externally attached HDs. mike wrote: We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
Netbooks do not have full keyboards. I ONLY use laptops with full keyboards (I do use a netbook for meetings; the battery lasts about 8.6 h)- and have been doing so for almost a decade. I am an engineer/accountant/medical professional with dire need of numeric keys, symbol keys, foreign languages, etc. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of mike Sent: 03/05/2010 9:56 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: You said you were cheap (and did not tell us what you want to use the computer for), so that should be fine. A netbook would be even cheaper. Often people tell me they need a laptop, only to later discover that it is so much less convenient than a desktop and regret the purchase. A laptop is best bought for travel. You may want to look at some of the all-in one desktops as a compact alternative. While the best of class is the iMac, there are several PC vendors who make them too. Or you could buy an iMac, erase the drive, and install Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
Check out Circuit City on line I just saw a couple of Gateways on sale. (They are a part of Tiger Direct be prepared to be bombarded with extended warranties) Also Geeks or Newegg. Stewart At 08:42 PM 2/28/2010, you wrote: You forgot to tell us what you want to do. A netbook is great for email and websurfing- but not number crunching. I avoid Dell AT ALL COSTS. But, first we need to know what you want to do. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carroll Sent: 03/04/2010 10:26 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought This listserv is so oriented towards social issues, I am almost afraid to ask a computer question. But, here goes: I have always had a PC with Windows, if I exclude the Apple IIe computer. I have never owned or used a laptop, only a desktop. I think now that I need to buy a laptop because wife has decided to use the desktop many hours a day for her new-found hobby of photography: this leaves me without access to a computer, particularly the internet or other simple tasks. If I get a laptop I will need a simple cheap one only since wife goes to sleep early, thereby freeing the desktop computer. Starting with the Dell web site, I find that a laptop with: Processor Intel TM 6600 Duo, 2.2 GHz, 800 MHz bus, 2 MB cache Memory 4GB 800 MHz RAM 500 GB 5400 RPM hard drive 6-cell battery Intel Link 5100 N wireless modem 8X CD/DVD burner (dual layer) costs $659 before shipping. Questions: Is this laptop a good choice? Is it a good price? Are there other brands or options that I ought to consider? Specially: I want good performance at the cheapest price. I am very stingy by nature! === P.S. Please don't say to buy a Mac laptop instead of a Windows machine. I bought my daughter a MacBook Pro and she likes it very well, but I am more comfortable with a Windows OS because I already have a large number of Windows programs that I can install on a laptop, plus I don't want to start a new personal learning curve to use the Mac -- i.e., sharing data between computer might be hard -- and I want to go cheap(!!) to buy a laptop. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
I bought one of the Compaqs from Walmart this summer and it had a full keyboard including a 10 key. I have only seen these on some 17 before not a 15.4. Stewart At 09:45 AM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Netbooks do not have full keyboards. I ONLY use laptops with full keyboards (I do use a netbook for meetings; the battery lasts about 8.6 h)- and have been doing so for almost a decade. I am an engineer/accountant/medical professional with dire need of numeric keys, symbol keys, foreign languages, etc. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of mike Sent: 03/05/2010 9:56 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: You said you were cheap (and did not tell us what you want to use the computer for), so that should be fine. A netbook would be even cheaper. Often people tell me they need a laptop, only to later discover that it is so much less convenient than a desktop and regret the purchase. A laptop is best bought for travel. You may want to look at some of the all-in one desktops as a compact alternative. While the best of class is the iMac, there are several PC vendors who make them too. Or you could buy an iMac, erase the drive, and install Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
I faced this dilemma in late 2004 when my trusty win95 Toshiba laptop which I loved was too skimpy on max 20mb memory to go forth (that laptop had a scsi port on the back, very forward looking for the day, allowing me to attach an external zip drive that gave me lots of storage...I can still see my almost 100 zip disks). I agonized over the new and expensive laptops finally settling on a refurbished IBM x31 notebook with pIV1.4 250mbRAM/40gbHDD with some legacy ports (EPP,Serial) but also the latest/greatest (2xUSB2,SD) and some I never used (firewire4pin) with winXPpro. Thence I have upgraded now to 2gbRAM and 120gbHDD (both of which I got on eBay and installed in minutes myself). I still use this all the time and have taken it all over using it in both the USA and the EU (wifi gets me online everywhere). It was cheap and has stood the test of time; the vendor was certified IBM and it was, on receipt, indistinguishable from brand new. The original battery still gives good service. It still looks brand new; screen is bright and all pixels are good. I bought 2 docking stations for both sides of the Atlantic (eBay again...cheap) each having a DVDR which can accommodate many other devices as well, and now carry a WDPassport500gb external HDD for music and backup. I don't think it would run Windows7...who cares? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
It seems you found the best solution for your needs. But some folks like to use the same machine, for both home use and travel. With speeds, memory sizes and HD sizes on laptops these days, they rival what desktops had just a few years ago. mike wrote: That came up in our discussion on what we would do about her laptop. The cost of just building a solid system, I already had the case/keyboard/mouse/hard drives, and getting some kind of dock was not much different. Decided on the little tower instead. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I'm sure you and many readers here know about this, but most model laptops can plug in to a docking station, so that you can easily use a larger monitor and full keyboard and mouse of choice. Also externally attached HDs. mike wrote: We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2723 - Release Date: 03/05/10 02:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
I have three machines that I actively use. I have a desktop at home. Built out the way I like it. 1.25 TB hard drive, Dual core, DBD burner, DVD Rom, Firewire etc. Nice case, it is a powerhouse for me. I have a work laptop. (Provided by me) it is a dockable Dell Latitude AMD dual core 15.4 screen. I have a dock at work, with keyboard, monitor etc. (hoping to upgrade to a flat panel shortly) Then I have a HP netbook. The net book is my email, web browser when I do not want to sit in front of the big machine, machine. When I fly it is nice not to have take a big laptop with me. It is powerful enough to run Word processors etc. I can watch movies on it and it has a 6 hour battery life. Each serves it purpose. I bought my wife a desktop years ago as I kept loosing mine to her. About 4 years ago I got her a laptop. She works very well on the laptop. First one was a cheap Compaq. Never again. The last one is a Dell Vostro and it is very good so far. Stewart At 10:24 AM 3/5/2010, you wrote: It seems you found the best solution for your needs. But some folks like to use the same machine, for both home use and travel. With speeds, memory sizes and HD sizes on laptops these days, they rival what desktops had just a few years ago. mike wrote: That came up in our discussion on what we would do about her laptop. The cost of just building a solid system, I already had the case/keyboard/mouse/hard drives, and getting some kind of dock was not much different. Decided on the little tower instead. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I'm sure you and many readers here know about this, but most model laptops can plug in to a docking station, so that you can easily use a larger monitor and full keyboard and mouse of choice. Also externally attached HDs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
My wife likes her laptop as she can take it on trips and do her thing, and I like cause she does not ask to use my laptop while we travel. Stewart At 11:16 AM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Right, I understand that. She only used the laptop because she could use it at the kitchen table and put it away when she was done...getting rid of her desk altogether. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: It seems you found the best solution for your needs. But some folks like to use the same machine, for both home use and travel. With speeds, memory sizes and HD sizes on laptops these days, they rival what desktops had just a few years ago. mike wrote: That came up in our discussion on what we would do about her laptop. The cost of just building a solid system, I already had the case/keyboard/mouse/hard drives, and getting some kind of dock was not much different. Decided on the little tower instead. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I have had good luck with Dell laptops. But I stick with the Vostro or Latitude series. Had an Compaq this summer. Not bad. Stewart Am I correct in thinking that these Dell series are no longer being made? The Dell website shows Inspiron, Studio, Studio XPS, Alienware, and Adamo. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
Please advise: what is too cheap? Is the Dell Inspiron priced at $659 too cheap? Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: You said you were cheap (and did not tell us what you want to use the computer for), so that should be fine. A netbook would be even cheaper. Don't be so cheap, though, that you buy junk and ask us a barrage of questions when things break. I am not inclined to advise someone who says they are cheap to buy a decent computer, but portable computers need to take more stress than a desktop, so caveat emptor! Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- This listserv is so oriented towards social issues, I am almost afraid to ask a computer question. But, here goes: I have always had a PC with Windows, if I exclude the Apple IIe computer. I have never owned or used a laptop, only a desktop. I think now that I need to buy a laptop because wife has decided to use the desktop many hours a day for her new-found hobby of photography: this leaves me without access to a computer, particularly the internet or other simple tasks. If I get a laptop I will need a simple cheap one only since wife goes to sleep early, thereby freeing the desktop computer. Starting with the Dell web site, I find that a laptop with: Processor Intel TM 6600 Duo, 2.2 GHz, 800 MHz bus, 2 MB cache Memory 4GB 800 MHz RAM 500 GB 5400 RPM hard drive 6-cell battery Intel Link 5100 N wireless modem 8X CD/DVD burner (dual layer) costs $659 before shipping. Questions: Is this laptop a good choice? Is it a good price? Are there other brands or options that I ought to consider? Specially: I want good performance at the cheapest price. I am very stingy by nature! === P.S. Please don't say to buy a Mac laptop instead of a Windows machine. I bought my daughter a MacBook Pro and she likes it very well, but I am more comfortable with a Windows OS because I already have a large number of Windows programs that I can install on a laptop, plus I don't want to start a new personal learning curve to use the Mac -- i.e., sharing data between computer might be hard -- and I want to go cheap(!!) to buy a laptop. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
betty wrote: Dell notebooks are heavy and clunky, but not too bad. Toshiba makes excellent notebooks. If I were buying a Dell, I'd get the new Alien notebook. Alien finally has a smaller, still powerful notebook for a reasonable price. Apple also makes excellent PC notebooks, in case you forgot that they run both Windows and Mac OS X natively. The weight of the Dells won't matter as long as you don't plan to carry one around. Sony makes computers, so I hear, but I've owned a lot of Sony products and the only one that didn't die before its time was the Trinitron CRT display--never again. Maybe I am expecting to get a laptop too cheaply. I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Vostro and Latitude are considered business laptops and are under the small business section. Stewart At 04:18 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I have had good luck with Dell laptops. But I stick with the Vostro or Latitude series. Had an Compaq this summer. Not bad. Stewart Am I correct in thinking that these Dell series are no longer being made? The Dell website shows Inspiron, Studio, Studio XPS, Alienware, and Adamo. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I am not sure but I think he considers any Windows machine cheap as it is not a Mac. I do not want to assume anything though. Stewart At 04:22 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Please advise: what is too cheap? Is the Dell Inspiron priced at $659 too cheap? Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: You said you were cheap (and did not tell us what you want to use the computer for), so that should be fine. A netbook would be even cheaper. Don't be so cheap, though, that you buy junk and ask us a barrage of questions when things break. I am not inclined to advise someone who says they are cheap to buy a decent computer, but portable computers need to take more stress than a desktop, so caveat emptor! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I'd really advise you get hands on with a laptop before you purchase, one mans cheap is another mans bargain. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.comwrote: Please advise: what is too cheap? Is the Dell Inspiron priced at $659 too cheap? Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: You said you were cheap (and did not tell us what you want to use the computer for), so that should be fine. A netbook would be even cheaper. Don't be so cheap, though, that you buy junk and ask us a barrage of questions when things break. I am not inclined to advise someone who says they are cheap to buy a decent computer, but portable computers need to take more stress than a desktop, so caveat emptor! Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- This listserv is so oriented towards social issues, I am almost afraid to ask a computer question. But, here goes: I have always had a PC with Windows, if I exclude the Apple IIe computer. I have never owned or used a laptop, only a desktop. I think now that I need to buy a laptop because wife has decided to use the desktop many hours a day for her new-found hobby of photography: this leaves me without access to a computer, particularly the internet or other simple tasks. If I get a laptop I will need a simple cheap one only since wife goes to sleep early, thereby freeing the desktop computer. Starting with the Dell web site, I find that a laptop with: Processor Intel TM 6600 Duo, 2.2 GHz, 800 MHz bus, 2 MB cache Memory 4GB 800 MHz RAM 500 GB 5400 RPM hard drive 6-cell battery Intel Link 5100 N wireless modem 8X CD/DVD burner (dual layer) costs $659 before shipping. Questions: Is this laptop a good choice? Is it a good price? Are there other brands or options that I ought to consider? Specially: I want good performance at the cheapest price. I am very stingy by nature! === P.S. Please don't say to buy a Mac laptop instead of a Windows machine. I bought my daughter a MacBook Pro and she likes it very well, but I am more comfortable with a Windows OS because I already have a large number of Windows programs that I can install on a laptop, plus I don't want to start a new personal learning curve to use the Mac -- i.e., sharing data between computer might be hard -- and I want to go cheap(!!) to buy a laptop. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
Alienware is Dell's gaming line. Yer gonna pay for it. You could also check with cyberpower, they have their own line of laptops and seem to get good reviews, their prices are reasonable. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.comwrote: betty wrote: Dell notebooks are heavy and clunky, but not too bad. Toshiba makes excellent notebooks. If I were buying a Dell, I'd get the new Alien notebook. Alien finally has a smaller, still powerful notebook for a reasonable price. Apple also makes excellent PC notebooks, in case you forgot that they run both Windows and Mac OS X natively. The weight of the Dells won't matter as long as you don't plan to carry one around. Sony makes computers, so I hear, but I've owned a lot of Sony products and the only one that didn't die before its time was the Trinitron CRT display--never again. Maybe I am expecting to get a laptop too cheaply. I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The Alienware computers are considered top of the line gaming laptops. The Inspiron is the entry level consumer laptop. Next comes their Studio line and at the top is the Alienware (who they bought by the way.) In the business end is the Vostro and the Latitude. Stewart At 04:27 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Maybe I am expecting to get a laptop too cheaply. I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Adamo is the top business class I suppose... On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: The Alienware computers are considered top of the line gaming laptops. The Inspiron is the entry level consumer laptop. Next comes their Studio line and at the top is the Alienware (who they bought by the way.) In the business end is the Vostro and the Latitude. Stewart At 04:27 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Maybe I am expecting to get a laptop too cheaply. I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yup. Is it out now? I don't keep track as it is way out of my price range. Stewart At 04:58 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Adamo is the top business class I suppose... On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: The Alienware computers are considered top of the line gaming laptops. The Inspiron is the entry level consumer laptop. Next comes their Studio line and at the top is the Alienware (who they bought by the way.) In the business end is the Vostro and the Latitude. Stewart At 04:27 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Maybe I am expecting to get a laptop too cheaply. I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Out long enough to drop in price actually. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Yup. Is it out now? I don't keep track as it is way out of my price range. Stewart At 04:58 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Adamo is the top business class I suppose... On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: The Alienware computers are considered top of the line gaming laptops. The Inspiron is the entry level consumer laptop. Next comes their Studio line and at the top is the Alienware (who they bought by the way.) In the business end is the Vostro and the Latitude. Stewart At 04:27 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Maybe I am expecting to get a laptop too cheaply. I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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It was supposed to be their slimmer, sleeker business line. Like I said not really interested as it is way out of my price range. Stewart At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Out long enough to drop in price actually. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Yup. Is it out now? I don't keep track as it is way out of my price range. Stewart At 04:58 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Adamo is the top business class I suppose... On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: The Alienware computers are considered top of the line gaming laptops. The Inspiron is the entry level consumer laptop. Next comes their Studio line and at the top is the Alienware (who they bought by the way.) In the business end is the Vostro and the Latitude. Stewart At 04:27 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Maybe I am expecting to get a laptop too cheaply. I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 5, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Robert Carroll wrote: I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Where do you get that? Apple laptops start at $999. Pro line starts at $1199. I see Windows laptops going for $100 http://www.google.com/products?q=laptopscoring=plnk=pruserprice1=99 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Alienware starts at 800...goes up from there. Like most things, that 1200 dollar 'pro' macbook is quite paltry. 1200 for Alienware gets you quite a bit more hardware. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Robert Carroll wrote: I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Where do you get that? Apple laptops start at $999. Pro line starts at $1199. I see Windows laptops going for $100 http://www.google.com/products?q=laptopscoring=plnk=pruserprice1=99 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Not to mention doubling your ram costs double for Apple than for the Alienware laptop. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:53 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Alienware starts at 800...goes up from there. Like most things, that 1200 dollar 'pro' macbook is quite paltry. 1200 for Alienware gets you quite a bit more hardware. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Robert Carroll wrote: I looked at the Alienware laptops on the Dell site and they are as expensive as the Mac. Cheapest is $1200 going up to $1800. Where do you get that? Apple laptops start at $999. Pro line starts at $1199. I see Windows laptops going for $100 http://www.google.com/products?q=laptopscoring=plnk=pruserprice1=99 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The base alienware is a great game machine. They were known for some really awesome gaming machines a number of years ago. One of the reasons Dell bought them. TO get its foot into the gaming machine end. Of course true gamers still build their own. My son was looking at Alienware machines as he gets a bonus this year from the military. Stewart At 06:53 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Alienware starts at 800...goes up from there. Like most things, that 1200 dollar 'pro' macbook is quite paltry. 1200 for Alienware gets you quite a bit more hardware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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a friend of mine who is an IT consultant say nix on Dells. PLUS my Dell laptop of 18 months old just totally died! from what you say, why not a Netbook? On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.comwrote: This listserv is so oriented towards social issues, I am almost afraid to ask a computer question. But, here goes: I have always had a PC with Windows, if I exclude the Apple IIe computer. I have never owned or used a laptop, only a desktop. I think now that I need to buy a laptop because wife has decided to use the desktop many hours a day for her new-found hobby of photography: this leaves me without access to a computer, particularly the internet or other simple tasks. If I get a laptop I will need a simple cheap one only since wife goes to sleep early, thereby freeing the desktop computer. Starting with the Dell web site, I find that a laptop with: Processor Intel TM 6600 Duo, 2.2 GHz, 800 MHz bus, 2 MB cache Memory 4GB 800 MHz RAM 500 GB 5400 RPM hard drive 6-cell battery Intel Link 5100 N wireless modem 8X CD/DVD burner (dual layer) costs $659 before shipping. Questions: Is this laptop a good choice? Is it a good price? Are there other brands or options that I ought to consider? Specially: I want good performance at the cheapest price. I am very stingy by nature! === P.S. Please don't say to buy a Mac laptop instead of a Windows machine. I bought my daughter a MacBook Pro and she likes it very well, but I am more comfortable with a Windows OS because I already have a large number of Windows programs that I can install on a laptop, plus I don't want to start a new personal learning curve to use the Mac -- i.e., sharing data between computer might be hard -- and I want to go cheap(!!) to buy a laptop. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Judy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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You forgot to tell us what you want to do. A netbook is great for email and websurfing- but not number crunching. I avoid Dell AT ALL COSTS. But, first we need to know what you want to do. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carroll Sent: 03/04/2010 10:26 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought This listserv is so oriented towards social issues, I am almost afraid to ask a computer question. But, here goes: I have always had a PC with Windows, if I exclude the Apple IIe computer. I have never owned or used a laptop, only a desktop. I think now that I need to buy a laptop because wife has decided to use the desktop many hours a day for her new-found hobby of photography: this leaves me without access to a computer, particularly the internet or other simple tasks. If I get a laptop I will need a simple cheap one only since wife goes to sleep early, thereby freeing the desktop computer. Starting with the Dell web site, I find that a laptop with: Processor Intel TM 6600 Duo, 2.2 GHz, 800 MHz bus, 2 MB cache Memory 4GB 800 MHz RAM 500 GB 5400 RPM hard drive 6-cell battery Intel Link 5100 N wireless modem 8X CD/DVD burner (dual layer) costs $659 before shipping. Questions: Is this laptop a good choice? Is it a good price? Are there other brands or options that I ought to consider? Specially: I want good performance at the cheapest price. I am very stingy by nature! === P.S. Please don't say to buy a Mac laptop instead of a Windows machine. I bought my daughter a MacBook Pro and she likes it very well, but I am more comfortable with a Windows OS because I already have a large number of Windows programs that I can install on a laptop, plus I don't want to start a new personal learning curve to use the Mac -- i.e., sharing data between computer might be hard -- and I want to go cheap(!!) to buy a laptop. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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That's an okay deal. But here's a better one: Dellhttp://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1mid=14722401url=http://www.dell.com/Studio 17 Laptop Intel Pen Dual Core T4300 2.1GHz, 17 Win 7 Prem $399 ($377 w/ DPA) + $13 S/H Of course, if you add enough stuff (4gb ram, bigger hard drive) to this one it could end up costing as much as the other one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
