Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Dunford
 Looks like PR BS to me.

Why am I not surprised?

The red jumpsuits were obviously a Fallon gimmick. Nobody at E3 had to wear
them. As for the coverage area, duh. If it covered the whole room,
non-players would have to sit frozen like Lincoln's statue, wouldn't they?
Hey! I'm playing here! Stop breathing, you're messin' me up!

Did it work, or didn't it, Tom? Were you wrong about the prerecorded video,
or not?


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar

On Jun 12, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:
The red jumpsuits were obviously a Fallon gimmick. Nobody at E3 had  
to wear

them. As for the coverage area, duh. If it covered the whole room,
non-players would have to sit frozen like Lincoln's statue, wouldn't  
they?

Hey! I'm playing here! Stop breathing, you're messin' me up!


Your naiveté is breathtaking. Anytime a shifty vendor presents a demo  
under unusual circumstances it bears close examination.



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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Mike
Did you notice when atari put out their first gaming console you had  
to be within six feet of it otherwise their so called joystick wouldnt  
work?  Obviously a gimmick, it will never work.


Sent from my iPod

On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:23 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:


On Jun 12, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Well, yeah. You might say why you're apparently assuming that  
declining to

talk about the release date really means won't ship in 2010.


Did you notice that in order to get the system to work they all had  
to wear red jump suits and stand within a rectangle taped on the  
floor of approximately 2 x 5 feet? Looks like PR BS to me.



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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Dunford
 Your naiveté is breathtaking. Anytime a shifty vendor presents a demo
 under unusual circumstances it bears close examination.

You didn't answer my questions. Why am I not surprised?

I repeat the questions: Did it work, or not? Was it a staged demo performed
to a prerecorded video, or not?


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread mike
MS has antigravity boots coming out???!!  AWESOME!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:57 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:

 I repeat the questions: Did it work, or not? Was it a staged demo
 performed
 to a prerecorded video, or not?


 You are just being a jerk.

 This is the company who told the US DOJ that IE and Windows could never be
 separated.

 You would probably believe in anti-gravity boots too if M$ put its logo on
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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Rev, you've got to stop putting in facts, Tom has a harder time with his
hate ms rants.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 In the one comments I saw about the Jimmy Fallon show, they mentioned that
 the Suits were worn as A.)  A Jimmy Fallon thing.  or B.) To counteract the
 strong lights that are usually used in studios.  (This is a major problem)

 The box on stage could be for a variety of reasons.  There is always an
 area marked on stage for the performers to stand in for optimal camera
 exposure.

 Letterman and Leno both have X's on stage where they are supposed to stand
 for their monologues.

 This is management for the Studio folks.

 By the way the Wii has the same limitations.  You must be in direct line of
 sight with the Sensor Bar on top (or below) your TV in order to play.  If
 you are not, it cannot sense the movement of the Wii controller.

 Makes sense to me.

 Stewart




 At 11:20 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:

  You are just being a jerk.

 Right. I asked you two very simple questions, twice, about whether your
 claims were right or wrong. You respond only with ad hominems both times,
 but *I'm* the jerk?


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Sorry grew up with Sgt. Joe Just the Facts: Friday and a dad who 
was an Engineer and a real stickler for facts not opinions.


Stewart


At 12:09 PM 6/12/2009, you wrote:

Rev, you've got to stop putting in facts, Tom has a harder time with his
hate ms rants.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 In the one comments I saw about the Jimmy Fallon show, they mentioned that
 the Suits were worn as A.)  A Jimmy Fallon thing.  or B.) To counteract the
 strong lights that are usually used in studios.  (This is a major problem)

 The box on stage could be for a variety of reasons.  There is always an
 area marked on stage for the performers to stand in for optimal camera
 exposure.

 Letterman and Leno both have X's on stage where they are supposed to stand
 for their monologues.

 This is management for the Studio folks.

 By the way the Wii has the same limitations.  You must be in direct line of
 sight with the Sensor Bar on top (or below) your TV in order to play.  If
 you are not, it cannot sense the movement of the Wii controller.

 Makes sense to me.

 Stewart


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
WFBs change the subject 20 times attempting to obscure the facts and  
hoping that we will even forget the question.


This demo is being presented as it it were a product in competition  
with products that are in stores now. That's fakery. That's spreading  
FUD. That's M$.



On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:54 PM, mike wrote:
I don't think this thing will launch in 2010, but I do think it  
will appear
in retail channels at some point.  This seems to be the obvious  
evolution of
the wii.  If you know Jimmy, you'd know he is a major geek and  
isn't going

to stooge this thing for MS.



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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

On that we, mostly agree, but M$ is not the only offender.

many other companies have offended over the years.

Stewart


At 01:39 PM 6/12/2009, you wrote:

WFBs change the subject 20 times attempting to obscure the facts and
hoping that we will even forget the question.

This demo is being presented as it it were a product in competition
with products that are in stores now. That's fakery. That's spreading
FUD. That's M$.


On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:54 PM, mike wrote:

I don't think this thing will launch in 2010, but I do think it
will appear
in retail channels at some point.  This seems to be the obvious
evolution of
the wii.  If you know Jimmy, you'd know he is a major geek and
isn't going
to stooge this thing for MS.



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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Maybe you think it's presented as such but I don't know anyone else who
does.  If they all thought it was already in stores I don't think you'd hear
people ask 'when is it COMING out'.  They'd be asking where they could buy
it now.  Maybe you are just faked out too easily, three card monty guys
always take your money?  There is no FUD anywhere around the demo, no idea
where you got that from..not sure how you can spread fear when talking about
a technology a company is developing.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:39 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:



 This demo is being presented as it it were a product in competition with
 products that are in stores now. That's fakery. That's spreading FUD. That's
 M$.



 On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:54 PM, mike wrote:

 I don't think this thing will launch in 2010, but I do think it will
 appear
 in retail channels at some point.  This seems to be the obvious evolution
 of
 the wii.  If you know Jimmy, you'd know he is a major geek and isn't going
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[CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread mike
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/11/jimmy-fallon-rocks-out-with-project-natal/#continued

Jimmy on his late show playing natal.


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread Chris Dunford
 http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/11/jimmy-fallon-rocks-out-with-project-
 natal/#continued
 
 Jimmy on his late show playing natal.

Jimmy Fallon, M$ minion.

And, oh, so much for Tom's staged demo theory.


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar

On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, mike wrote:

Jimmy on his late show playing natal.


And engadget says...
Also, anyone notice Fallon asking Kudo if this would ship in 2010  
and Kudo declining to answer...


Need I say more?


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread Tony B
Actually, no, I didn't hear that question at all.


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:01 PM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote:
 On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, mike wrote:

 Jimmy on his late show playing natal.

 And engadget says...
 Also, anyone notice Fallon asking Kudo if this would ship in 2010 and Kudo
 declining to answer...

 Need I say more?


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar

On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Tony B wrote:

Actually, no, I didn't hear that question at all.


Why am I not surprised?


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Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar

On Jun 12, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Well, yeah. You might say why you're apparently assuming that  
declining to

talk about the release date really means won't ship in 2010.


Did you notice that in order to get the system to work they all had to  
wear red jump suits and stand within a rectangle taped on the floor of  
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