Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Before even enabling any Internet connection, install Zone Alarm Free and set it to ask on everything. Then you can comfortably install whatever you really want at leisure without worrying about an external attack. Of course, if you have stateful packet inspection enabled on your router, you are pretty safe anyway. Fred Holmes At 11:48 PM 12/19/2009, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: It also allows me to not connect to the internet until I have a more current machine. I do wish M$ did roll ups every so often to allow quicker restores after the last SP. -- John Duncan Yoyo * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: Before even enabling any Internet connection, install Zone Alarm Free and set it to ask on everything. Then you can comfortably install whatever you really want at leisure without worrying about an external attack. Of course, if you have stateful packet inspection enabled on your router, you are pretty safe anyway. Zone alarm is too big a hog to use. The M$ firewall is sufficient for my purposes especially behind a NAT router. I would rather put a fairly up to date machine on the web to get the final windows updates. A pre sp2 XP machine is just too vulnerable. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
If I do a reinstall for anyone, I usually make sure I am using as up to date an OS disk as possible. Then whatever updates need to be installed get installed. (I download them to a separate machine and load them onto the reinstalled machine.) When all that is done I make sure the Internet is functioning. Then I install a antivirus program. (Antivirus programs traditionally want an Internet connection to download updates.) Stewart At 04:55 PM 12/20/2009, you wrote: Zone alarm is too big a hog to use. The M$ firewall is sufficient for my purposes especially behind a NAT router. I would rather put a fairly up to date machine on the web to get the final windows updates. A pre sp2 XP machine is just too vulnerable. -- John Duncan Yoyo * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: On 12/16/2009 11:29 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: According to M$ you need to have installed either SP1a or SP2 before installing SP3 on XP. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 To make life easier I downloaded SP2 and SP3 and burned them to a single CD along with decrappifier. It is nice having all that stuff in one place when it is time to reinstall. It certainly sounds more logical, to do them(SP2 n' SP3) in succession, instead of bundled. I definitely like the CD suggestion. It also allows me to not connect to the internet until I have a more current machine. I do wish M$ did roll ups every so often to allow quicker restores after the last SP. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 11:01 PM, mike wrote: Could be...Nvidia goes back a ways with drivers. And there are always third party sites that keep old drivers around. And if you are really adventurous you can download custom made drivers just for the card you have. Ok * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:45 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: SP 3 I believe is a rollup of all previous updates...shouldn't need to do SP2. According to M$ you need to have installed either SP1a or SP2 before installing SP3 on XP. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 To make life easier I downloaded SP2 and SP3 and burned them to a single CD along with decrappifier. It is nice having all that stuff in one place when it is time to reinstall. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Actually, it's even easier to just get a disk with WinXP SP3 already slipstreamed in. Install it, then enter your own license number. But really, I doubt I'll be installing XP any longer; it was fun while it lasted, but Win7 is too much of an improvement to make it worth the while. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: To make life easier I downloaded SP2 and SP3 and burned them to a single CD along with decrappifier. It is nice having all that stuff in one place when it is time to reinstall. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it's even easier to just get a disk with WinXP SP3 already slipstreamed in. Install it, then enter your own license number. But really, I doubt I'll be installing XP any longer; it was fun while it lasted, but Win7 is too much of an improvement to make it worth the while. I have to rely on the restore function of my old HP system which comes with the burn your own option so I end up with a pre SP2 installation. I supose I could spend time trying to figure out how to slip stream that but that isn't worth the time for me. SP7 runs ok on my old machine but it is slow on iTunes which is my main use for the machine. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 12:45 AM, mike wrote: SP 3 I believe is a rollup of all previous updates...shouldn't need to do SP2. That is my understanding from the note about SP3, on Microsoft's website. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 11:29 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: According to M$ you need to have installed either SP1a or SP2 before installing SP3 on XP. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 To make life easier I downloaded SP2 and SP3 and burned them to a single CD along with decrappifier. It is nice having all that stuff in one place when it is time to reinstall. It certainly sounds more logical, to do them(SP2 n' SP3) in succession, instead of bundled. I definitely like the CD suggestion. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 1:16 PM, Tony B wrote: Actually, it's even easier to just get a disk with WinXP SP3 already slipstreamed in. Install it, then enter your own license number. But really, I doubt I'll be installing XP any longer; it was fun while it lasted, but Win7 is too much of an improvement to make it worth the while. I haven't found a link on MS' website, that makes that possible. I definitely would prefer to do it that way. I just haven't found the link. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 12:01 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: Whatever subsystem fails on the motherboard, and can be fixed by replacing it with the same function on a PCI card. Shouldn't the Firewire be on the MB as well? Slot covers can contain additional connectors, e.g. for an e-Sata drive. An SCSI card, so you can hook up a legacy drive containing old data that suddenly becomes important. Yes, I know, there are USB to SCSI adapters, or at least there used to be for SCSI narrow drives. Another video card so you can be running four monitors? . . . Fred Holmes I won't wait for a motherboard failure. That is why, I am doing what you mentioned above. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
But if the motherboard ALREADY has sound..you aren't spending even more for a sound card are you? I mean use onboard sound till it breaks, then put a pci card in? On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: On 12/16/2009 12:01 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: Whatever subsystem fails on the motherboard, and can be fixed by replacing it with the same function on a PCI card. Shouldn't the Firewire be on the MB as well? Slot covers can contain additional connectors, e.g. for an e-Sata drive. An SCSI card, so you can hook up a legacy drive containing old data that suddenly becomes important. Yes, I know, there are USB to SCSI adapters, or at least there used to be for SCSI narrow drives. Another video card so you can be running four monitors? . . . Fred Holmes I won't wait for a motherboard failure. That is why, I am doing what you mentioned above. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Google nLite, they do a free tool for slipstreaming not only SP's but drivers etc. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: On 12/16/2009 1:16 PM, Tony B wrote: Actually, it's even easier to just get a disk with WinXP SP3 already slipstreamed in. Install it, then enter your own license number. But really, I doubt I'll be installing XP any longer; it was fun while it lasted, but Win7 is too much of an improvement to make it worth the while. I haven't found a link on MS' website, that makes that possible. I definitely would prefer to do it that way. I just haven't found the link. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Any new disk you buy will already have SP3 in it. Assuming they're still selling XP. Then again, there are other places to download such disks. You'll still need your own license to run it. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: I haven't found a link on MS' website, that makes that possible. I definitely would prefer to do it that way. I just haven't found the link. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 7:40 PM, mike wrote: But if the motherboard ALREADY has sound..you aren't spending even more for a sound card are you? I mean use onboard sound till it breaks, then put a pci card in? I didn't want to wait for that to happen, to get the sound card. Besides, Why should I settle for the 'basics'. While I am not a gamer, I don't see why I should settle for what amounts to second-rate technology, where sound n' video are concerned. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 7:52 PM, Tony B wrote: Any new disk you buy will already have SP3 in it. Assuming they're still selling XP. Then again, there are other places to download such disks. You'll still need your own license to run it. When you say that I still need my own license to run it, is it safe to presume, that you mean I would need a new software key to run it? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 1:05 AM, Reid Katan wrote: Have you tried Safe Mode? Like Mike said, there should be an option to step through the boot. Just keep on stepping until it stops on you. That should narrow it down. I will definitely give that a go. Is there a bug in XP SP2? 'Fraid I can't help you there. After all this time, I'd think it was pretty stable. Can you back out of the SP updates? and if you do, will it return you to normal? I asked about SP2 having a bug, because it was a curiosity. Yet, Not a definite idea to my problem. I thought about trying to back out of SP2. But, I just re-installed SP1, without losing anything. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 7:40 PM, mike wrote: Google nLite, they do a free tool for slipstreaming not only SP's but drivers etc. Thanks for mentioning that. I will definitely take a look at it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Most mobo's have the same sound you get in inexpensive cards. Seems like doubling down even though you can only win once. I've got ROCKING pounding sound from my mobo...Them Crooked Vultures isn't a bad album especially nice and loud. To each his own though, we do what works, do not judge lest ye be judged and have a hard drive failure I always say. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: On 12/16/2009 7:40 PM, mike wrote: But if the motherboard ALREADY has sound..you aren't spending even more for a sound card are you? I mean use onboard sound till it breaks, then put a pci card in? I didn't want to wait for that to happen, to get the sound card. Besides, Why should I settle for the 'basics'. While I am not a gamer, I don't see why I should settle for what amounts to second-rate technology, where sound n' video are concerned. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On 12/16/2009 1:17 AM, mike wrote: In my experience, it seems like video card manufacturers are always updating their drivers, I got in the habit of keeping older ones around for just what Tom is talking about. Until they stop supporting the card. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Could be...Nvidia goes back a ways with drivers. And there are always third party sites that keep old drivers around. And if you are really adventurous you can download custom made drivers just for the card you have. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: On 12/16/2009 1:17 AM, mike wrote: In my experience, it seems like video card manufacturers are always updating their drivers, I got in the habit of keeping older ones around for just what Tom is talking about. Until they stop supporting the card. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
You forgot to tell us what the problem is. Or what you've already tried to do to fix it. BTW, You don't need too many PCI slots any longer. I have two and one has firewire. What do you need your other five for? On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: I have XP Pro SP1 via registered CD License. My computer: OS: XP Pro Mbd: Soyo SY-7VBA133U (6PCI, 1AGP) CPU: P3 933Mhz(clock speed 133Mhz) RAM: 1GB PC133 HDC: AHA-39320 HD: 147GB(2) U320 SCSI Video: 20 LG Flatron W2053TX Vid. Cont.: ATI Radeon 9600 SE VRAM: 128MB Sound Card: Audigy 2ZS I know that some of the specs I have listed above, probably don't have a connection to the problem. But I didn't want to leave anything out. I installed XP SP2 via upgrade CD and, when I tried to re-boot, the computer will hang right after the XP logo screen. So I thought the upgrade CD was damaged. I downloaded XP SP3 from Microsoft's website and, installed it. It is said to include all previous service packs. When I tried to re-boot, I encountered the same problem. I know that, a lot of the hardware on my computer needs to be upgraded. I have been looking for ATX P4 motherboards with the same number of PCI slots. Since I am not a gamer, I haven't bothered with upgrading the video card. So, I would appreciate all feedback to my problem. Christopher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
At 11:29 PM 12/15/2009, Tony B wrote: BTW, You don't need too many PCI slots any longer. I have two and one has firewire. What do you need your other five for? Whatever subsystem fails on the motherboard, and can be fixed by replacing it with the same function on a PCI card. Shouldn't the Firewire be on the MB as well? Slot covers can contain additional connectors, e.g. for an e-Sata drive. An SCSI card, so you can hook up a legacy drive containing old data that suddenly becomes important. Yes, I know, there are USB to SCSI adapters, or at least there used to be for SCSI narrow drives. Another video card so you can be running four monitors? . . . Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: I installed XP SP2 via upgrade CD and, when I tried to re-boot, the computer will hang right after the XP logo screen. So I thought the upgrade CD was damaged. [. . .] So, I would appreciate all feedback to my problem. My first guess would be driver issues. Have you tried to start up in Safe Mode? Hold down the F8 key while starting until the options screen shows up. perhaps you can update the drivers from there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Starting in safe mode will also display the drivers as they load and you might see which one is hanging you On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: I installed XP SP2 via upgrade CD and, when I tried to re-boot, the computer will hang right after the XP logo screen. So I thought the upgrade CD was damaged. [. . .] So, I would appreciate all feedback to my problem. My first guess would be driver issues. Have you tried to start up in Safe Mode? Hold down the F8 key while starting until the options screen shows up. perhaps you can update the drivers from there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
As an aside...Motherboards today almost always include sound and some sort of video on board. When or if these go out, you can easily put a card in and you have it working again. I don't use the onboard video on any of my machines, I bypass it and use a video card. I've never had a motherboard become useless because sound/video, NIC or USB going out. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: Tony, I mentioned, that my computer would hang after the XP Pro logo screen, following the upgrade to XP SP2, regardless of going by CD or, by download from Microsoft's website and, installed. If I couldn't re-install XP Pro, without formatting the drive, I would format the drive. Usually, I would just have to re-install without formatting. As for the PCI slots, I have: 1. Sound Card 2. Video Card 3. USB/Firewire Combo Card 4. NIC I despise on-board technology. Because if one thing goes wrong with the motherboard, then the motherboard basically needs to be replaced. Replacing a peripheral card is far cheaper than, having to replace a motherboard each time. The only Firewire connection is, on the outside of the combo card. - Original Message - From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:29:20 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems You forgot to tell us what the problem is. Or what you've already tried to do to fix it. BTW, You don't need too many PCI slots any longer. I have two and one has firewire. What do you need your other five for? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Sorry, I missed this the first time. It's true you must install SP2 before you can get up to SP3, so you don't have a choice; you must get SP2 in there. What's unusual is that usually in a clean install there shouldn't be any hangs. You aren't trying to install SP2/SP3 *after* you've installed some apps, are you? I had a NIC go bad on a mobo once years ago. other than that, this stuff just doesn't fail. Are you guys with the constant failures just buying cheap mobos? No wait, I buy a lot of cheap mobos for our video workstations, and none of those have failed either. Knock on wood, thanks to you guys. Can you tell us just how many and what type of failures you've had on your mobos that required you to have 5 PCI slots??? On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: Tony, I mentioned, that my computer would hang after the XP Pro logo screen, following the upgrade to XP SP2, regardless of going by CD or, by download from Microsoft's website and, installed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
SP 3 I believe is a rollup of all previous updates...shouldn't need to do SP2. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I missed this the first time. It's true you must install SP2 before you can get up to SP3, so you don't have a choice; you must get SP2 in there. What's unusual is that usually in a clean install there shouldn't be any hangs. You aren't trying to install SP2/SP3 *after* you've installed some apps, are you? I had a NIC go bad on a mobo once years ago. other than that, this stuff just doesn't fail. Are you guys with the constant failures just buying cheap mobos? No wait, I buy a lot of cheap mobos for our video workstations, and none of those have failed either. Knock on wood, thanks to you guys. Can you tell us just how many and what type of failures you've had on your mobos that required you to have 5 PCI slots??? On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: Tony, I mentioned, that my computer would hang after the XP Pro logo screen, following the upgrade to XP SP2, regardless of going by CD or, by download from Microsoft's website and, installed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
I already did update all the drivers. It didn't make a difference. Is there a bug in XP SP2? Christopher - Original Message - From: Reid Katan ka...@his.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:03:31 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: I installed XP SP2 via upgrade CD and, when I tried to re-boot, the computer will hang right after the XP logo screen. So I thought the upgrade CD was damaged. [. . .] So, I would appreciate all feedback to my problem. My first guess would be driver issues. Have you tried to start up in Safe Mode? Hold down the F8 key while starting until the options screen shows up. perhaps you can update the drivers from there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
I bypass on-board technology because, it limits the end-user, to the meanderings of the the motherboard manufacturer. That is why I have a separate video n' sound card. Christopher - Original Message - From: mike xha...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:33:53 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems As an aside...Motherboards today almost always include sound and some sort of video on board. When or if these go out, you can easily put a card in and you have it working again. I don't use the onboard video on any of my machines, I bypass it and use a video card. I've never had a motherboard become useless because sound/video, NIC or USB going out. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
That might be the problem. Next time try installing SP2 immediately, before you try to install the mobo drivers. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote: I already did update all the drivers. It didn't make a difference. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
Quoting Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net: I already did update all the drivers. It didn't make a difference. Have you tried Safe Mode? Like Mike said, there should be an option to step through the boot. Just keep on stepping until it stops on you. That should narrow it down. Is there a bug in XP SP2? 'Fraid I can't help you there. After all this time, I'd think it was pretty stable. Can you back out of the SP updates? and if you do, will it return you to normal? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On Dec 16, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Christopher Range wrote: I already did update all the drivers. Roll back your video driver. I have found that recent video driver updates actually cause problems. When I rolled back video drivers my crashing stopped. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
In my experience, it seems like video card manufacturers are always updating their drivers, I got in the habit of keeping older ones around for just what Tom is talking about. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:10 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Christopher Range wrote: I already did update all the drivers. Roll back your video driver. I have found that recent video driver updates actually cause problems. When I rolled back video drivers my crashing stopped. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] XP Pro problems
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:19 PM, Christopher Range wrote: I know that, a lot of the hardware on my computer needs to be upgraded. It looks fine to me. Should be able to run XP just fine as it is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
