Re: [CGUYS] political discussion
Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net escribió: These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread will be gone soon too. I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind? It's so easy to use the Delete key, easier than unsubscribing. I use a Mac, sometimes Windows. 90% of the issues are for PCs, but some are interesting anyway. The political discussion, well, some of it, is interesting too, even computer related--broadband, infrastructure, DMCA, copyright, etc. Eventually it will return to whatever your favorite topic is. Do you have a computer-related question? Do you prefer silk, wool or cotton for needlework? Until then, go back and read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and find connections. Betty ...riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs...Sir Tristram, violer d'amores, fr'over the short sea, had passencore rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor had topsawyer's rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse to Laurens County's gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to tauftauf thuartpeatrick: not yet, though venissoon after, had a kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, though all's fair in vanessy, were sosie sesthers wroth with twone nathandjoe... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] political discussion
At 02:19 PM 02/04/2009 -0500, b_s-wilk wrote It's so easy to use the Delete key, easier than unsubscribing. Actually what I minded the most was the word Approve in the subject line. I manage several Yahoo email lists, and filter the requests to join from posts I need to moderate. Filtering on the word Approve is the only word I can find to sort on, since all the admin posts come from the same address. I also have notifier sounds to attract my attention when posts are filtered into those mailboxes. My Approvals mailbox kept getting filled with the recent political posts from this list. I finally put another rule in place in that filter to exclude any posts from Computer Guys. I just resented my nice filtering system getting co-opted by the political discussion. :) Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Filtering on the word Approve Ours is Approves so you can just put a space after your Approve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:55:15 -0500, Tony B wrote: Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys). On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: No, I'm fond of political discussion, when not out of control. This is one of the few groups I've found that allows it. At least to a certain extent. We used to have an off-topic list (a separate Linux list, too). Whatever happened to that? -- R:\katan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yes, this was a common solution for mailing lists in their heyday - a companion 'OT' list. A good idea to help keep the noise level down. But I don't think the AOL software allows a group moderator to move threads. On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:06 PM, katan ka...@his.com wrote: We used to have an off-topic list (a separate Linux list, too). Whatever happened to that? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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We used to have an off-topic list (a separate Linux list, too). Whatever happened to that? These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread will be gone soon too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yes, this was a common solution for mailing lists in their heyday - a companion 'OT' list. A good idea to help keep the noise level down. But I don't think the AOL software allows a group moderator to move threads. I think AOL management has forgotten that this server even exists. How many times have they been reorganized, merged, unmerged, and remerged since we started. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The point is, there are tons of places that you can go to for a fix on needlepoint, and a ton of political discussion forums as well. Not too many mind the occasional OT comment on a list, but I too have felt that impulse to stop the flood of politics in my inbox with an unsub. Or at least a nomail if it's available. Ya, we can make a filter, but why should we have to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Matthew S. Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all - I might learn some interesting stuff. My daughter has gotten into crocheting, and cross stitch, and I can see embroidery on the way. Matthew On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: At 03:57 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread will be gone soon too. I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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At 05:18 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Matthew S. Taylor wrote Not at all - I might learn some interesting stuff. My daughter has gotten into crocheting, and cross stitch, and I can see embroidery on the way. Matthew OK, I'm just finishing my 7th Teresa Wentzler cross stitch project and looking forward to starting the 8th. I also have the senior citizens in town cutting plastic grocery bags into strips and crocheting sturdy grocery totes out of them. They're all happy about trying to be green, and it keeps them busy and outta bars. :) Now I will tell you that you're all supposed to be impressed, since y'all probably understand/care as much about this as I do about politics. :) At least I'm producing something, which is more than you guys are doing! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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At 03:57 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread will be gone soon too. I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I agree. This thread will die soon. But joining this group was in direct response to an absolute hate of the Kartel, another group of list owners I and others used to term the Kartel Nazi's. One word or subject out of bounds would cause suspension or banning... And Jeff is proof of that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Ah, wry wit . . . leaves me in stitches! BTW, in Arabic the powers that control are described as those who loosen and bind (ahl al hal w'al `aqd) so your stitches and your politics are not always pulling on separate strands. Cheers! Sue Cubic wrote: At 05:18 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Matthew S. Taylor wrote Not at all - I might learn some interesting stuff. My daughter has gotten into crocheting, and cross stitch, and I can see embroidery on the way. Matthew OK, I'm just finishing my 7th Teresa Wentzler cross stitch project and looking forward to starting the 8th. I also have the senior citizens in town cutting plastic grocery bags into strips and crocheting sturdy grocery totes out of them. They're all happy about trying to be green, and it keeps them busy and outta bars. :) Now I will tell you that you're all supposed to be impressed, since y'all probably understand/care as much about this as I do about politics. :) At least I'm producing something, which is more than you guys are doing! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Not at all - I might learn some interesting stuff. My daughter has gotten into crocheting, and cross stitch, and I can see embroidery on the way. Matthew On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: At 03:57 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread will be gone soon too. I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here-- would anyone mind? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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And Jeff is proof of that. Both of them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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--- I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind? So post something about computers, will you. Whining is prohibited. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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At 08:54 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote --- I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind? So post something about computers, will you. Whining is prohibited. I do, when I have a question. I know just enough about computers to recognize a problem, and that's why I'm here! Overall, what I've learned on lists like this is being passed along... I have started teaching computer use at our local senior center. I have a little 4-machine lab and a whole bunch of people who are curious, yet afraid of new technology. One by one they are starting to come in to try their hand at it. I have browsers set to open with Google and 2 people now have Gmail accounts. It's only been 2 weeks, and some of them are becoming fairly confident with the machines. Anyone who wants a bit of more advanced help can ask for it. It's very rewarding to watch them walk out with big smiles on their faces. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys). It is all in clearly labeled threads. If you want to filter it out this is the right place to ask. Tell us what email client your are using and you'll get plenty of help with that. I doubt it will last much longer and it will probably be years before we go nuts again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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You taking odds? :) On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I doubt it will last much longer and it will probably be years before we go nuts again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Everything is political, one way or another. This meandering thread is interesting--fun--in that there's a lot of information and personalities being revealed. We'll get back to computers eventually, after we deal with paying for repairing our infrastructure, dealing with jobs, un-outsourcing, DMCA, health care, etc. Tony, can't you set your GMail to filter out these messages so you won't injure your Delete finger? BTW, thanks, Chad, for the pensión in Prague! Betty Yes, this is true. Welcome to the new world. Jeff M On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Tony B wrote: Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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it's an Obamarama!! -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: political discussion Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys). On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: No, I'm fond of political discussion, when not out of control. This is one of the few groups I've found that allows it. At least to a certain extent. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys). No shortage. But as Tom mentioned, we all know each other pretty well here. I pretty much can expect to hear diverse points of view from people that I've been corresponding with for years. Tom, Jeff, and Betty's (and others) opinions and insights are not always ones I agree with but I would rather hear from people I trust and respect on ANY subject, not just the ones on which they are obviously experts. This discussion is remarkably civil, informed, and occasionally funny. Which has been a hallmark of this list. On Friday I happened to be working with someone on a technical problem (go figure) and I had NPR on my desk radio. She turned to me and said, I'm scared. I guess we all are, a little. Me, I'm scared a lot. Oh yeah, we solved the problem OK. It wasn't obvious but it was fixable and we did it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yes, this is true. Welcome to the new world. Jeff M On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Tony B wrote: Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys). On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: No, I'm fond of political discussion, when not out of control. This is one of the few groups I've found that allows it. At least to a certain extent. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * The friend is the man who knows all about you, and still likes you. - Elbert Hubbard * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
