[Cooker] initrd.img selection in drak?boot

2003-09-15 Thread Simon Oosthoek
Hi

I'll file a bug if you agree it is one...

Both in the installation (Advanced) section for lilo and in mcc, I was
unable to add a second linux installation to the lilo config using the
wizard. I could select an alternative vmlinuz file on another partition
(which was mounted), but I couldn't select the appropriate initrd.img file,
so running lilo failed.

Is this known or on purpose?

Cheers

Simon



Re: [Cooker] WTF???

2003-09-15 Thread Ron Stodden
I didn't have quite as much bad luck with rc2 as Pierre Fortin did, but, 
as usual, so much that is so obvious to anyone who tries to install it 
that I do not report such things because of their obviousness.   This 
makes me critical of Mandrake's alpha testing, and I will not cooperate 
with them or report stuff until it is acceptable and the team signoffs 
are included.

My chief complaint about rc2 is its inability to set up a good lilo.conf 
when the bootloader was previously installed on the MBR by one of the 
other Mandrake partitions. In this case the installer should update 
the lilo.conf on the existing lilo-active linux partition and chroot 
lilo to it so that operations are not disturbed except for the addition 
of the newly installed partition stanza which will then become bootable 
immediately after installation.   This is obviously a basic requirement.

In any case rc2 testing here has to stop until October 1 since my 
broadband download quota for September is exhausted due to the 
inexcusably RPM-repetitious nature of Cooker downloads.

Pierre Fortin wrote:
There is NO way rc[12] are release candidates...  releasing this would
make Mdk a laughing stock and really tick off a lot of users.
As mentioned below, INSTALLATION is the MOST IMPORTANT part of any distro;
without it, it doesn't matter how good the distro is rated to be -- it
simply does NOT exist if it can't be installed...!!
From what I've seen so far, 9.2 is gonna be a bomb if the installer isn't
cleaned up.

Even after telling 9.2rc1 installer where 9.1 is, I'm writing this (as we
travel along I-40) on a crippled 9.2 kernel even though it *should* be the
original 9.1...  
image=/boot/vmlinuz   == (1)
label=linux9.1
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.22-1mdk.img === (2)
read-only
(1) Install was on hda9, so shouldn't this read
[/mnt]/91/boot/vmlinuz...???
(2) Should also read: [/mnt]/91/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img

where /91 is the name I gave the 9.1 partition during 9.2 install...

This is the classic problem of failing to corectly tell lilo where stuff
really is...  

To understand what is wrong with the installer's view of lilo.conf, here
is my hand-crafted lilo.conf on the 9.1 side (/dev/hda1) -- the 9.2
version needs to take the opposing view of /dev/hda9 with hda1 as the
foreign OS using /91 as the mount point...
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=menu
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount acpi=off prof=Home
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-acpi
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount acpi=on prof=Home
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=failsafe devfs=nomount acpi=off
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=office
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount acpi=off prof=Office
read-only
# 9.2
image=/92/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux9.2
root=/dev/hda9
initrd=/92/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount acpi=off resume=/dev/hda7
read-only
image=/92/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe9.2
root=/dev/hda9
initrd=/92/boot/initrd.img
append=failsafe devfs=nomount acpi=off resume=/dev/hda7
read-only
In other words, there is no way to correctly build lilo using a common
lilo.conf file; the view depends on which partition you're starting
from...
Of course, not enough of 9.2 was installed to really give it a serious
look...
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Re: [Cooker] WTF???

2003-09-15 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le lun 15/09/2003 à 09:32, Ron Stodden a écrit :
 I didn't have quite as much bad luck with rc2 as Pierre Fortin did, but, 
 as usual, so much that is so obvious to anyone who tries to install it 
 that I do not report such things because of their obviousness.   This 
 makes me critical of Mandrake's alpha testing, and I will not cooperate 
 with them or report stuff until it is acceptable and the team signoffs 
 are included.
 
 My chief complaint about rc2 is its inability to set up a good lilo.conf 
 when the bootloader was previously installed on the MBR by one of the 
 other Mandrake partitions. In this case the installer should update 
 the lilo.conf on the existing lilo-active linux partition and chroot 
 lilo to it so that operations are not disturbed except for the addition 
 of the newly installed partition stanza which will then become bootable 
 immediately after installation.   This is obviously a basic requirement.

Yes, and grub should also be updated like this. I'm always doing this
manually when i want to keep up-to-date my booting menu.

To note, RH proposes to install or not the boot manager at the end, with
Mandrake, it always assumes that nothing else (or windows) is available.

Stef

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Re: [Cooker] Horde suite

2003-09-15 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
Le lun 08/09/2003 à 16:59, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :

 It seems old imp 1 or 2 are no longer around, while there is still old 
 horde-nag 1. Could we nuke it, and turn horde2 to horde and imp3 to imp ?

Why does this come up at the end of the release cycle? ;-) Keep that in
mind for 9.3/10.0/MandrakeX ;-)

 BTW, i found the ADVX macros very useful. Why are those macros in 
 /usr/share/ADVX, and not integrated among standard rpm macros ?

Hmmm.. they started as a quick hack and were evolving constantly, so I
didn't want to pester the rpm maintainer every time so I made my own
package with it. 

 I also found most private directories are both protected by the in apache 
 config file, and by a local .htaccess in the directory. Isn't this a bit 
 redundant.

No, it's not redundant, it's because many people modify their apache
config files, but then some applications have major security holes when
that happens. Better be safe than sorry.

 Finally, all those sensible files (apache config file, .htaccess files) are 
 owned by apache groupe, with 640 perms, which make rpmlint scream. Time for 
 some new rpmlint exception/check ?

Yes!!! =)

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RE: [Cooker] Apache2 mod_ssl bug

2003-09-15 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
Le dim 14/09/2003 à 21:08, Ales Golob a écrit :
 Ok, I'll try to be.
 I'm running a 9.2 RC1 with apache2-2.0.47-5mdk and
 apache2-mod_ssl-2.0.47-5mdk.
 I added my own certificate files to /etc/httpd/conf.d/41_
 and added these 2 lines:
 SSLVerifyClient require
 SSLVerifyDepth  10
 the same config worked fine on 9.1

Can you give me the results of these commands?
* rpm -qa|grep apache
* rpm -qa|grep ssl



 The browser reports that th connection died unexpectedly
 and the only thing I can find in the logs is in /var/log/httpd/error_log
 [Wed Sep 10 15:08:45 2003] [notice] child pid 17293 exit signal Sedmentation
 fault (11)
 
 if you need any other info please ask
 
 Ales Golob
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Oden Eriksson
 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Cooker] Apache2  mod_ssl bug
 
 
 fredagen den 12 september 2003 18.24 skrev Ales Golob:
  Hi
 
  I have a problem with mod_ssl when I configure it to request a client
  certificate it segfaults and dies.
  I'm running the latest packages from cooker. Any idea what could be the
  problem?
 
 
 Could you please be more specific?
 
 
 
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Re: [Cooker] urpmi OpenOffice.org weirdness

2003-09-15 Thread Franois Pons
Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 # urpmi OpenOffice.org
 One of the following packages is needed:
  1- OpenOffice.org-l10n-es-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  2- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ar-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  3- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ca-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  4- OpenOffice.org-l10n-cs-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  5- OpenOffice.org-l10n-da-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  6- OpenOffice.org-l10n-de-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  7- OpenOffice.org-l10n-el-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  8- OpenOffice.org-l10n-fi-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  9- OpenOffice.org-l10n-fr-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  10- OpenOffice.org-l10n-it-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  11- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ja-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  12- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ko-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  13- OpenOffice.org-l10n-nl-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  14- OpenOffice.org-l10n-pl-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  15- OpenOffice.org-l10n-pt-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  16- OpenOffice.org-l10n-pt_BR-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  17- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ru-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  18- OpenOffice.org-l10n-sk-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  19- OpenOffice.org-l10n-sv-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  20- OpenOffice.org-l10n-tr-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  21- OpenOffice.org-l10n-zh_CN-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
  22- OpenOffice.org-l10n-zh_TW-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586
 What is your choice? (1-22) 9
 One of the following packages is needed:
  1- myspell-fr_BE-1.0.2-0.20030619.1mdk.noarch
  2- myspell-fr_FR-1.0.2-0.20020608.1mdk.noarch
 What is your choice? (1-2) 2
 The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
 OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
 OpenOffice.org == 1.1) (y/N)

Without a urpmi bug report, I can't do nothing on this topic, please send me a
urpmi bug report.

François.



Re: [Cooker] Epiphany is now the default GNOME web browser

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:12:27 +0200, John Keller wrote:

 Steve Fox wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:39, John Keller wrote:

  Epiphany was chosen sometime before 2 July:
 
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-July/msg00016.html
 
  Epiphany might be gnome default in Mdk 10, but not before:
  http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5018

 I guess I didn't make myself clear. I know GNOME has selected Epiphany
 to be the default, but Frederic stated that Galeon will remain the
 default for Mandrake.

 My comment was that in a recent Cooker update, my default was forced to
 be Epiphany. Frederic needs to possibly hack whatever package controls
 that, so that MDK 9.2 will default to Galeon.
 
 Ah, gotcha; sorry 'bout that. I understood it the same way Adam did.

This should be fixed now.. In fact, libgnome was only using
webclient-gnome for http and not https :((

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Re: [Cooker] Serial ATA support

2003-09-15 Thread Mark Watts
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Get one with a Silicon Image chipset - those should work with 2.4.22 - other 
chips (Intel ICH5) work with 2.6.x to some degree but you really want to be 
using libata when thats finished.

Mark.

 OK i have a seriious question for you guys. I want a new mobo w/ serial
 ata. Two questions how good is the support on linux *right now* and is
 there any special controller or board which will definitely work w/ mdk
 9.2. I'm thinking about getting an ASUS A7V8X

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Re: [Cooker] jabber jit (icq) transport

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:39:50 +0200, Luca Olivetti wrote:

 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
 --enigF4C84F50387899E03D1721BF
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
 The icq transport supplied with jabber http://icqv7-t.sourceforge.net/ 
 has been discontinued.
 I've made for myself a separate package for jit http://jit.jabberstudio.org
 It's a works for me(tm) package built under 9.1 (but I see no reason 
 why it shouldn't build under cooker). Is there any interest on this 
 package if I upload it to incoming?

Please wait until 9.2 is out and cooker is unfrozen.. I didn't put it in
jabber package because it requires its own jabberd implementation. Has
this changed ?

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[Cooker] [Bug 5681] [kdebase] New: X server shutdown when closing session

2003-09-15 Thread [sirmacbes]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5681

   Product: kdebase
 Component: program
   Summary: X server shutdown when closing session
   Product: kdebase
   Version: 3.1.3-78mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi, in mandrake cooker 9.2 rc2 when closing session of a normal user, the X
server is shut down and a car login screen is presented. This does not seem to
appear when login, closing session of th root user. This has been tested on a
Compaq Presario 702EA Notebook computer (s3 twister, duron 850 PowNow, 384 Mo
RAM, Hitachi hard drive)

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Re: [Cooker] gnome-panel : transparency broken

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:06:16 +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I can't get transparency to work anymore on gnome panels.
 Whatever the transparency setting is, the panel is always opaque.
 Can anyone confirm this ?

No, it is not completely broken :

your default background file is not present (mandrake_theme/mandrake_desk
broken stuff) in /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png (it should be a
symlink to the new background). In that case, gnome-panel defaults to no
transparency.. I know it should use default background color instead but
it is a very little side-effect bug.. Please fill a bug on
bugzilla.gnome.org 

 BTW, Gnome2 and Nautilus are now fast as hell, thanks for your work
 Fred, you've really improved Gnome within some weeks :)

Thanks :) I wish I could fix the 100
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Re: [Cooker] Gnome notification applet taking 1000f cpu

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:34:53 +0200, Bellegarde Cedric wrote:

 Don't know if it could help but after startup, if you move pointer on
 notification applet, it stop eating 1000f cpu...

Thanks for this info.. It seems to indicate a bug in latest GTK+.. I'll
filled a bug upstream : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122327

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Re: [Cooker] xmms and mpeg video

2003-09-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Sonntag, 14. September 2003, 19:39:40 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen:
  Bad idea, as smpeg-xmms is a really sucky mpeg player. I'd even vote
  for moving xmms-smpeg from main to the contribs.
 Why do you think it is bad? It has worked fine for me.

It's really slow, cannot play MPEG2, ... You could use mplayer or xine instead.
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Re: [Cooker] Can't install XawTV RPMs in 9.2RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Diego Iastrubni
 , 15  2003, 03:22,Nicholas 
Bolibruch:
 Well, having a rather fresh install of 9.2RC2, I went to install XawTV
 so I could capture some images from my webcam.

 So, went through Mandrake Control Centre, and went to Install Software
 Packages.

 Did a search on XawTV, and all that was listed is:
 xawtv-control-3.88-4mdk
 xawtv-misc-3.88-4mdk
 xawtv-web-3.88-4mdk
installed here (urpmi xawtv).
 Thinking that the dependencies would be satisfied, I just clicked on
 xawtv-web-3.88-4mdk.

 Then got the wonderful popup window informing me:

 Sorry, the following package(s) can't be selected:

 xawtv-web-3.88-4mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied xawtv-common[== 3.88])
 OK

 Selecting the xawtv-control-3.88-4mdk package doesn't alert me of a
 dependency failure.  But selecting the xawtv-misc-3.88-4mdk package
 gives a similiar response like the xawtv-web package selection.

 It's acting as if the XawTV package doesn't exist.
I have seen this problem in autoconf2.5.
Added dependencies by hand and it was installed at the end.
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[Cooker] Fwd: AbiWord 2.0

2003-09-15 Thread Olivier Thauvin
For information, sent as private mail.

Abiword 2 should become abiword, but after 9.2 release I think.

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Subject: AbiWord 2.0
Date: Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 03:10
From: Mark Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just a friendly reminder to our beloved downstream maintainers that
AbiWord 2.0.0 has been released for general consumption and is the new
stable release (as 1.99.x has long been more stable than 1.0).
Additionally, the 1.0 branch is closed and completely unsupported.

Best regards
-MG
AbiWord Maintainer

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[Cooker] one week to trap most important bugs of 9.2

2003-09-15 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Hi,

According to the wiki, we're one week from the final 9.2. Today,
we'll try to freeze even more, and let us all one week of testing
in order to fix any remaining *critical* bugs. Cosmetic/minor
bugs won't be fixed, risking breaking some more.

Please continue testing the install program, important fixes have
been done lately and it would be important to detect any
important breakage in result of this.

Thanks.

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[Cooker] [Bug 5682] [drakxtools] New: MS intelliMouse Explorer bad detection

2003-09-15 Thread [sirmacbes]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5682

   Product: drakxtools
 Component: mousedrake
   Summary: MS intelliMouse Explorer bad detection
   Product: drakxtools
   Version: 9.2-11mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: mousedrake
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi, in mandrake 9.2 rc2, when installing or editing properties of the system,
the mouse is badly detected. When installing, the pointer goes where it wants
after changing the original setting PS2 mouse, 2 buttons to any of these
settings MS Explorer or PS2 2 buttons, roller produces problems (re-starting
install is generally needed). Tested with PS2 connected mouse (though USB) and
on a Compaq Presario 702EA

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[Cooker] [Bug 5683] [kdebase] New: USB Mass Storage bug ?

2003-09-15 Thread [sirmacbes]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5683

   Product: kdebase
 Component: program
   Summary: USB Mass Storage bug ?
   Product: kdebase
   Version: 3.1.3-78mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi, under KDE, there is a tool designed to mount/unmount USB Devices such as USB
keys or Camera (in /mnt/removable and /mnt/camera). While the mount function
works fine, unmount does no work at all. Widly removing a device (because
nothing happens when trying to normallly do it) completely crashes then USB
daemon. No problem under GNOME where a command line can always save the
situation ... Tested on a Compaq Presario 702EA

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[Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Warly

A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
discs over 650 MB ones.

WDYT?

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[Cooker] [Bug 5684] [Hardware] New: Power Management on laptops ??

2003-09-15 Thread [sirmacbes]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5684

   Product: Hardware
 Component: Hardware
   Summary: Power Management on laptops ??
   Product: Hardware
   Version: 9.2-0.7mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: Hardware
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi, my compaq presario 702EA seems to work at maximum performance all the time,
so that the temperature of the system goes up and the coolers work all the time ...

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Jure Repinc
Warly wrote:
A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
discs over 650 MB ones.
Yup 700 is the way to go. In shops where I buy them I can't even see any 
650 CD-Rs :)




[Cooker] [Bug 5474] [locales-zh] 9.2rc1 rc2 cannot show Traditional Chinese

2003-09-15 Thread [vroetman]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5474


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-09 08:40 ---
I'm sorry.  My message was not clear.  9.2 RC2 had the same problem for
me, so your bug was real.  But out of the cooker today it was fixed.  So I
am assuming the mandrake people changed something and fixed it, but I 
wanted to confirm that fact.


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description: 
The process of installation can show Traditional Chinese properly. However, 
rc1 and rc2 show Traditional Chinese as square if I enter X. I am very 
surprised to find that only Simplified Chinese fonts are installed instead of 
Traditional Chinese fonts (Big5). 
  
As a Traditional Chinese user, I am getting dissatified with Mandrake Linux 
since 8.x. Over the past year, Traditional Chinese support in Mandrake is 
getting worst whereas Redhat is getting better. In fact, I find that most 
former Mandrake users switch to Redhat.



[Cooker] Kernel oopses/panics with -6 to -9 enterprise kernels

2003-09-15 Thread Jaroslaw Zachwieja
Right. This is going to be yet another vaugue post to cooker ml.

Last four releases of cooker kernel are happily oopsing and panicing. The 
hardware ran fine on 9.1 and is now quite frustrating.

The oopses I've experienced were related to journaling (jbd.o), 
kmem_cache_free (panic) and scsi (cdrw present) and devfs_d_input. The 
crashes seem NOT to be related with nvidia driver (i.e. they occur both 
when nvidia.o is loaded or not).

I'm not a kernel hacker. However I'm willing to help to debug the problems. 
Could some kernel maintainer contact me and help me extract viable 
information about the crashes? I'm happy to spend some time on this.

mem=nopentium doesn't seem to do the trick.

The machine in question is a brand new single processor (ht) intel based 
workstation (800MHz FSB) on ASUS P4P800/GD-EAY mobo. specs attached.

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Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
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snd-pcm-oss46820   0  (unused)
snd-mixer-oss  15992   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-intel8x0   24036   0 
snd-ac97-codec 50072   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-pcm90592   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0]
snd-timer  20932   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-page-alloc 10228   0  [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]
snd-mpu401-uart 5436   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-rawmidi19488   0  [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device  6268   0  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
snd46596   0  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss 
snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart 
snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore   7236   0  [snd]
nfsd   83280   0  (autoclean)
af_packet  16904   1  (autoclean)
sr_mod 20888   0  (autoclean)
floppy 59548   0 
sk98lin   163936   1  (autoclean)
supermount 87328   2  (autoclean)
ide-cd 36516   0 
cdrom  35360   0  [sr_mod ide-cd]
ide-scsi   12624   0 
scsi_mod  113344   2  [sr_mod ide-scsi]
usbmouse3260   0  (unused)
keybdev 3012   0  (unused)
mousedev5880   0 
ov511  92448   0  (unused)
videodev8672   2  [ov511]
i2c-core   22052   0  [ov511]
v4l2-common 4288   0  [ov511]
usbkbd  4828   0  (unused)
hid25668   0  (unused)
input   6272   0  [usbmouse keybdev mousedev usbkbd hid]
ehci-hcd   21036   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   27824   0  (unused)
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rtc10508   0  (autoclean)
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  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Controller (rev 2).
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe000 [0xefff].
  Bus  0, device   1, function  0:
PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to AGP Controller (rev 2).
  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=8.
  Bus  0, device  29, function  0:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
  IRQ 16.
  I/O at 0xef00 [0xef1f].
  Bus  0, device  29, function  1:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
  IRQ 19.
  I/O at 0xef20 [0xef3f].
  Bus  0, device  29, function  2:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
  IRQ 18.
  I/O at 0xef40 [0xef5f].
  Bus  0, device  29, function  3:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
  IRQ 16.
  I/O at 0xef80 [0xef9f].
  Bus  0, device  29, function  7:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 2).
  IRQ 23.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebffc00 [0xfebf].
  Bus  0, device  30, function  0:
PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 194).
  Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=2.
  Bus  0, device  31, function  0:
ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 2).
  Bus  0, device  31, function  1:
IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 2).
  IRQ 18.
  I/O at 0xfc00 [0xfc0f].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x4000 [0x43ff].
  Bus  0, device  31, function  3:
SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB SMBus Controller (rev 2).
  IRQ 17.
  I/O at 0x400 [0x41f].
  Bus  0, device  31, function  5:
Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 2).
  IRQ 17.
  I/O at 0xe800 [0xe8ff].
  I/O at 0xee80 [0xeebf].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff800 [0xfebff9ff].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff400 [0xfebff4ff].
  Bus  1, device   0, function  0:
VGA 

Re: [ok] [Cooker] one week to trap most important bugs of 9.2

2003-09-15 Thread Clive Dove
On Monday 15 September 2003 06:23, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Hi,

 According to the wiki, we're one week from the final 9.2. Today,
 we'll try to freeze even more, and let us all one week of testing
 in order to fix any remaining *critical* bugs. Cosmetic/minor
 bugs won't be fixed, risking breaking some more.

 Please continue testing the install program, important fixes have
 been done lately and it would be important to detect any
 important breakage in result of this.

 Thanks.


How do I do this, Guillaume?

I have the iso images of 8/9 September and I cannot find any later iso 
images anywhere.  

If I keep installing from the same iso images I will keep getting the 
same broken install with the same missing KDE elements.  As the 
elements are missing from the system as installed, even update will not 
give me a complete system and I will still have to add the missing 
elements manually by scanning the pacakges list and deciding which ones 
were in 9.1 and therefor should be added to the new install.

How do I get fresh iso images?  Or failing that, how do I create the 
equivalent of a fresh install set?

Please don't get locked into an artificial schedule.  Take your time and 
don't issue a final until you have issued a fixed RC3 or even RC4 if 
need be.  Better to be a bit late than to rush out something that is 
not ready.

Clive







Re: [Cooker] Totem as default mp3 player for Galeon?

2003-09-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So, I decided to urpmi xmms which is no big deal. Shouldn't xmms
 be installed in the 1st place?

interface team thinks totem is better for end users




Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:35:01 +0200
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
 discs over 650 MB ones.

Does not really matter to me, I got blanks of both.

First thing I do after an installation is to remove the cd sources and
add ftp for main, contrib and plf; then pass the cds on to someone else.
(I got an old cd1 I can use to boot to rescue mode, if needed.)


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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le lun 15/09/2003 à 12:35, Warly a écrit :
 A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
 discs over 650 MB ones.
 
 WDYT?

+1

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 12:35:01PM +0200, Warly wrote:
 
 A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
 discs over 650 MB ones.
 
 WDYT?

for myself I'm happy with either size.

But I think 650 (at least for CD1) should be used to be as compatible as
possible. It's not always good to cater for the majority, some minorities
have a big influence (stupid journalist reviewers...)

The suggested alternative is a 4th CD, what's the official opinion on that?
(or unofficial for that matter ;-)

/Simon



Re: [Cooker] phpLDAPAdmin - install error

2003-09-15 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
Le dim 14/09/2003 à 07:59, Oden Eriksson a écrit :
 # urpmi apache
 Why is the apache1 stuff chosen?

Because you did urpmi apache. If you want to install 2.0 do a urpmi
apache2.

But I agree that the apache/php/mod_ssl dependencies are not playing
well with urpmi... specially when using both cooker and contribs.

 apache2-2.0.47 should provide apache = 2.0.47
 apache2-mod_ssl should provide mod_ssl = 2.0.47
 apache2-mod_php should provide (what?)
 This would probably upgrade apache1 to apache2, but would that matter now?

Yes, it matters... Apache 2 is the worst piece of crap I have ever seen.
It's bugged, php is not really stable, perl is not yet at 2.0 (it's
1.99), CGI scripts don't work correctly when used with perl -w (the
stderr blocks at 4K), etc.



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[Cooker] [Bug 5685] [kdemultimedia-kaboodle] New: kaboodle freez

2003-09-15 Thread [ma_boite]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5685

   Product: kdemultimedia-kaboodle
 Component: program
   Summary: kaboodle freez
   Product: kdemultimedia-kaboodle
   Version: 3.1.3-16mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: minor
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


When I make a long pause while using kaboodle (over 2 minutes) when I come back
the program is froozen: I must close the program, restart it and manualy go back
to the position I pause the film.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Radek Vybiral
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Jure Repinc wrote:

 Warly wrote:
  A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
  discs over 650 MB ones.
 
 Yup 700 is the way to go. In shops where I buy them I can't even see any 
 650 CD-Rs :)

Yes, I'm voting for 700MB ISOs too. With this disc size we have about 
150MB more. But it now depends on decision in MandrakeSoft...


R.V.




Re: [Cooker] Totem as default mp3 player for Galeon?

2003-09-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Samstag, 13. September 2003, 07:26:34 Uhr MET, schrieb Larry Nguyen:
 Installed RC2 and selected all the Usual Suspect for a workstation.
 Fired up Galeon, went to my online mp3 collection (mind ya! I have the
 original CDs), click on a playlist, xmms is not listed there. Totem
 couldn't play it.

You could file a bug report against totem. What was the error message
and what was the file type?
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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Ciger
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Warly wrote:
| A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
| discs over 650 MB ones.
|
| WDYT?
|
I would rather prefer good old 650MB. I can write the images to a CD-RW
and when a new version is out, just rewrite them without having old
obsolete CDs with old versions laying around.
Or does anybody know, where to get 700MB CD-RWs ?

Jan

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Ciger
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Warly wrote:
| A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
| discs over 650 MB ones.
|
| WDYT?
|
Wasn't this exactly the other way round last time ? I remember, that 9.0
~  shipped with 700MB ISOs and there were lots of complaints about it
(people burned coasters and such). 9.1 had normal 650MB ISOs because of
this.
Jan

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 13:21:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Jan Ciger:
 I would rather prefer good old 650MB. I can write the images to a CD-RW
 and when a new version is out, just rewrite them without having old
 obsolete CDs with old versions laying around.
 Or does anybody know, where to get 700MB CD-RWs ?

Don't know about your country, but here in Germany you can buy good
TDK CD-RWs with 700MB capacity at Vobis.
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Re: [Cooker] xmms and mpeg video

2003-09-15 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 12:11:59PM +0200, Götz Waschk wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 14. September 2003, 19:39:40 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen:
   Bad idea, as smpeg-xmms is a really sucky mpeg player. I'd even vote
   for moving xmms-smpeg from main to the contribs.
  Why do you think it is bad? It has worked fine for me.
 
 It's really slow, cannot play MPEG2, ... You could use mplayer or xine instead.

Hmm, it is fast enough for me, and only costs something like 100 kB
as far as I could tell.

Best regards
keld



[Cooker] [Bug 5180] [kdebase] on laptop no battery jauge on the kde desktop

2003-09-15 Thread [m.cargnelli]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5180





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I have the same problem on a Toshiba 3110CT running a fresh Mandrake 9.2rc2 
The feature worked correctly on the 9.1 

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After a fresh install of 9.2 rc1, no battery panel on the taskbar. If i lauch
kdesktopdeamon on a console, it works, but not perfectly since it generate an
error when tring to open klaptop with a right click on the battery icon.

cat /proc/apm gives correct data.



Re: [Cooker] gnome-panel : transparency broken

2003-09-15 Thread Olivier Blin
 your default background file is not present
 (mandrake_theme/mandrake_desk broken stuff) in
 /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png (it should be a symlink to the
 new background).

You're right, the symlink has been deleted, I still wonder how ...

 In that case, gnome-panel defaults to no
 transparency.. I know it should use default background color instead
 but it is a very little side-effect bug.. Please fill a bug on
 bugzilla.gnome.org 

Done.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122331
Feel free to add further information.

Thanks for your answer :)

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[Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Ric Johnson
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Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson:
 Why?
Space constrains on the CDs.
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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 12:35, Warly a écrit :
 A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
 discs over 650 MB ones.

 WDYT?

No matter, all can be burned on DVD+rw 4.7 GB ;)
And all can be installed from mirror network tree.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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Warly wrote:
 A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
 discs over 650 MB ones.

 WDYT?

Most users have =128MB ram, but I don't see us adding features to the
installer to take advantage of the extra ram.

Remember your minimum requirements. Machines which only just make those
requirements are likely to have an older CD-ROM drive, thus we are
likely to find users who have problems if we use 700MB.

What is the difference between having 700MB CDs, and having 3 650MB CDs
and a fourth 150MB CD? It's the same space on the mirror, and it costs
the user only an extra $0.50 (well, that's what CD-Rs cost here). Buying
a new CD-ROM drive for all the  PII machines would cost significantly
more ...

Of course, with a 4th CD, we can use more than 150MB ...

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Can't releases in september!

2003-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 23:10, jokerman64 wrote:
 On Sunday 14 September 2003 06:05 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 22:53, jokerman64 wrote:
   Cooker is too buggy to release afinal in september.
   You guys can't release yet, USB 2 support is still buggy, NVIDIA and AMD
   X problems haven't been solved yet. And of course we have to wait for
   XFCE 4, KDE 3.2 (which JUST released an  alpha) AND Openoffice 1.1 to
   hit.
 
  oh, thanks. we see the light now.
 
  /sarcasm
 
 I guess I should've put a /sarcasm after the end of my post too.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Zdenek Mazanec
  A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
  discs over 650 MB ones.
 
  WDYT?

 No matter, all can be burned on DVD+rw 4.7 GB ;)
 And all can be installed from mirror network tree.


Yes! I vote for DVD(+/-R,RW) iso too ;-)

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Eric Fernandez
Jan Ciger wrote:

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Warly wrote:
| A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
| discs over 650 MB ones.
|
| WDYT?
|
Wasn't this exactly the other way round last time ? I remember, that 9.0
~  shipped with 700MB ISOs and there were lots of complaints about it
(people burned coasters and such). 9.1 had normal 650MB ISOs because of
this.
Jan

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But the number of packages has increased since then.

Eric




Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Eric Fernandez
Jan Ciger wrote:

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Warly wrote:
| A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
| discs over 650 MB ones.
|
| WDYT?
|
I would rather prefer good old 650MB. I can write the images to a CD-RW
and when a new version is out, just rewrite them without having old
obsolete CDs with old versions laying around.
Or does anybody know, where to get 700MB CD-RWs ?

Jan

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I bought high speed 10X infinity CD-RW on an internet site, in UK. They 
are available now :)
Eric




Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Ric Johnson

--- Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700
 MB discs over 650 MB ones.
 
 WDYT?
 
 -- 
 Warly

I think that people should be using the  hd.img  more and letting
y'all make the CD ISO images whatever size you want them to be. 
However, I'd prefer 700MB if I still burned the images to disk.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Kevin Perros
A 3 650 Mb CD pack should be fine, it should be enough to put a standard 
desktop for the end-user. Maybe even a 2 CD interbational release, with 
2 aditional CDs with more apps.




Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Ric Johnson

--- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric
 Johnson:
  Why?
 Space constrains on the CDs.

Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me
considering the large number of non-essiential programs that
could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web
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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread cpjc
Hi,

mainly personnal reasons but I prefer 650MB for short-time-life versions
(beta's and rc) because my CD-RWs are 650MB ones, 700MB for the final
version because I use 700MB CD-R and I want more packages ;-)

Berthy

Le lun 15/09/2003 à 12:35, Warly a écrit :
 A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
 discs over 650 MB ones.
 
 WDYT?




Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote:

 
 --- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric
 Johnson:
  Why?
 Space constrains on the CDs.
 
 Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me
 considering the large number of non-essiential programs that
 could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web
 browser since they dropped Netscape.

Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps 
which uses gecko..

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Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 05:05:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson:
 Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me
 considering the large number of non-essiential programs that
 could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web
 browser since they dropped Netscape.

AFAIK all packages have a score that marks it importance. Devel
packages generally have a lower score than application packages. Most
Joe Users don't build mozilla extensions but would be sad about a
missing kde screensaver or one game less on the download edition's CDs.
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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 14:07, cpjc a écrit :
 Hi,

 mainly personnal reasons but I prefer 650MB for short-time-life versions
 (beta's and rc) because my CD-RWs are 650MB ones, 700MB for the final
 version because I use 700MB CD-R and I want more packages ;-)

I fully agree ! I wished to write the same argumentation. Thanks.

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Re: [ok] [Cooker] one week to trap most important bugs of 9.2

2003-09-15 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 12:45, Clive Dove a écrit :

 Please don't get locked into an artificial schedule.  Take your time and
 don't issue a final until you have issued a fixed RC3 or even RC4 if
 need be.  Better to be a bit late than to rush out something that is
 not ready.

I fully agree ! Follow the example of OpenOffice.org : they made RC4
which is truly a release candidate. Mdk9.2rc2 is in fact only a beta.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread John Allen
On Monday 15 September 2003 12:35, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
 Le Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 12:35, Warly a écrit :
  A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
  discs over 650 MB ones.
 
  WDYT?

 No matter, all can be burned on DVD+rw 4.7 GB ;)
 And all can be installed from mirror network tree.

Main+Contrib requires 4.7G DVD, plus another 781MB DVD.

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[Cooker] [Bug 5686] [alsa-utils] New: alsactrl fails miserabilly

2003-09-15 Thread [Frederic.Petrot]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5686

   Product: alsa-utils
 Component: program
   Summary: alsactrl fails miserabilly
   Product: alsa-utils
   Version: 0.9.6-2mdk
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
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ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


alsactrl fails and echoes sh: -n command not found (or something like that :)

This is due to a lacking dependency in package installation: alsactrl uses
lspci, but there is not such dependency in the rpm (as far as I can tell).
Installing pciutils by hand solves the problem.

alsactrl also fails to run its test, because it lacks rcalsa*, that I didn't
find on the downloaded CD

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Ciger
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| Don't know about your country, but here in Germany you can buy good
| TDK CD-RWs with 700MB capacity at Vobis.
Seems, that I will have to look again :-) Last time I checked they
weren't available around here, but perhaps it changed in the meantime.
Jan

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[Cooker] [Bug 5687] [zsh] New: zsh tries to run bash_completion!

2003-09-15 Thread [Frederic.Petrot]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5687

   Product: zsh
 Component: program
   Summary: zsh tries to run bash_completion!
   Product: zsh
   Version: 4.1.1-3mdk
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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zsh (when run from a bash) tries to execute bash_completion and echoes lots of
errors.
If the $HOME/.zshrc is missing, it sources the default one and generates again
lots of messages, and the completion system fails.

Setting a local .zshrc circumvent the pbs, but this lacks elegance :)

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Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Ric Johnson

--- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote:
 
  
  --- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric
  Johnson:
   Why?
  Space constrains on the CDs.
  
  Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me
  considering the large number of non-essiential programs that
  could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK
 web
  browser since they dropped Netscape.
 
 Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to
 build apps  which uses gecko..

Precisely.

So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of
those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX
MB) or ...?

I know there is a space crunch but I seriously think that
mozilla-* are not the items to be removed unless MDK is changing
the default browser suite.

This may sound a little simple but why don't MDK take every game
off of CD1, 2  3 and put them all on a 4th CD = games.iso.  At
the very least, there will be room for mozilla-devel...
(The marketing dept. might like that too.)
 

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 14:39, John Allen a écrit :
 On Monday 15 September 2003 12:35, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
  Le Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 12:35, Warly a écrit :
   A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
   discs over 650 MB ones.
  
   WDYT?
 
  No matter, all can be burned on DVD+rw 4.7 GB ;)
  And all can be installed from mirror network tree.

 Main+Contrib requires 4.7G DVD, plus another 781MB DVD.

you forgot jpackage and plf, add about 1GB :)

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
I still prefer the 650Mb CDs. I have been burning all the Mandrakes
since 8.0 (and skipping 9.0) to the same set 650Mb CDRWs. If you stick
with 650Mb it makes it one less thing that can go wrong when someone
asks to try it.

Whatever you do, please don't create two differing sets of CD sizes
(i.e. if you go with 700 don't also make a 650 version). This becomes a
maintenance nightmare as people will mix up CDs etc.




Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
 On Monday 15 September 2003 12:35, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
  Le Lundi 15 Septembre 2003 12:35, Warly a écrit :
   A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
   discs over 650 MB ones.
  
   WDYT?
 
  No matter, all can be burned on DVD+rw 4.7 GB ;)
  And all can be installed from mirror network tree.
 
 Main+Contrib requires 4.7G DVD, plus another 781MB DVD.
 

for main  contrib a DVD + 90min-CD should be OK

but, if you package the jpackage nosrpm's and add PLF
you'll  need a second CD or a DVD

or just use a dual side DVD

best,

svetljo

PS.

1.) there is no such thing as 4.7G DVD as there is no such 80.0G/120.0G hard
drive
2.) it would be really nice if the kernel team enable udf write support, so
DVD+RW media can
 be used as DVD-RAM

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[Cooker] [Bug 5232] [initscripts] Bringing up Eth0 fails at boot with DHCP despite an IP is correctly given after booting

2003-09-15 Thread [duanev]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5232


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-09 09:48 ---
See if there is a nameserver in your /etc/resolv.conf of 127.0.0.1.  I'm seeing
this fairly routinely and it causes errors from various apps that use
gethostbyname (i.e. 'host name').  I can edit out the bogus nameserver entry
and things run fine until the next time I use DrakConnect to change something.

I also give zeroconf blank machine names - I don't know what zeroconf is and
don't think I want to know what it is - so I try to ignore it and give it zero
information...  If this brand new thingy (zeroconf) is NOT optional then I need
to know what it is before I (mis)configure it - simply poping up a pane
prompting for a zeroconf hostname expecting users to know what it is begs for
many unneeded bug reports and unhappy users.

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Not sure this is related to initscripts.
I installed 9.2 RC1 and updated to cooker 03/09. I connect to a LAN in my
university by DHCP. After installing, at boot, the step Bringing up Eth0 was
working immediately.
I played around with Drakconnect and leaved machine names blank in both name and
zeroconf name to have default names.
Now, when booting, Bringing up Eth0 pauses for 30 seconds before writing
[FAILED]. Surprisingly, after starting, network is working, and my DHCP server
has given a correct IP (as checked with ifconfig).
I guess there is a problem in the booting sequence that makes it prevent getting
DHCP information.

How can I check what happens. I'll try to reproduce it.



[Cooker] [Bug 5643] [OpenOffice.org] Printing option settings apply only to the first page of the document

2003-09-15 Thread [jlp]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5643


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When printing with OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 (File/Print) and changing option
settings using the Properties button in the printing dialog, the settings
apply only to the first page and not to the subsequent pages.

The problem is caused by the way how OpenOffice.org generates PostScript. It
puts the PostScript commands (taken from the PPD file) which are supposed to
apply to the whole document into the %%BeginPageSetup ... %%EndPageSetup
section of the first page and not into the %%BeginSetup ... %%EndSetup before
the first page. This way the options apply only to the first page.



Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 13:48, Ric Johnson wrote:
 --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote:
  
   
   --- Gtz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric
   Johnson:
Why?
   Space constrains on the CDs.
   
   Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me
   considering the large number of non-essiential programs that
   could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK
  web
   browser since they dropped Netscape.
  
  Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to
  build apps  which uses gecko..
 
 Precisely.
 
 So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of
 those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX
 MB) or ...?

Since Galeon is already packaged and included in main...yes.
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Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Radek Vybiral
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Ric Johnson wrote:

 
 --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote:
  
   
   --- Gtz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric
   Johnson:
Why?
   Space constrains on the CDs.
   
   Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me
   considering the large number of non-essiential programs that
   could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK
  web
   browser since they dropped Netscape.
  
  Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to
  build apps  which uses gecko..
 
 Precisely.
 
 So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of
 those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX
 MB) or ...?
 

Many developers like this simple games because much more work, like me.

If you include game like Frozen Bubble, the game will be played by 50 of 
100 users. If you include mozilla-devel, 2 of 100 users will be happy.
Now compare it yourself...

R.V.




[Cooker] /net mounts are now appearing on my desktop, how do I stop this???

2003-09-15 Thread John Allen

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[Cooker] [Bug 4651] [eroaster] Doing Nothing after Burn button is pressed

2003-09-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4651





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That patch seems to be OK, I'll try to upload a new version.


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When Burn is pressed, nothing is done, so no call is made to mkisofs/cdrecord.



Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xemacs-21.4.14-1mdk

2003-09-15 Thread Warly
Ric Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hey:

 Thanks for the xemacs 21.4.14.  :)

 Did you get a chance to see if xemacs-gtk builds, runs  works
 correctly now?  
 (the info in the spec file looks quite dated:  # 20020212 warly
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gtk is too instable, ...  )

Ah I do not have a look since a long time yes.

 Also, FYI:
 I built from the SRPM and got this on install:
 # rpm -Uvh xemacs*
1:xemacs-info
 install-info: menu item `AUCTeX' already exists, for file
 `auctex'
 install-info: menu item `Mew-J' already exists, for file
 `mew.jis.info'
 install-info: warning: no info dir entry in
 `/usr/share/info/xemacs/tempo.info.bz2'
 install-info: warning: no info dir entry in
 `/usr/share/info/xemacs/tm-view-en.info.bz2'
 install-info: warning: no info dir entry in
 `/usr/share/info/xemacs/tm-view-ja.info.bz2'
 install-info: menu item `TRAMP' already exists, for file `tramp'

Yes, I know about this info warning, but as they are harmless I do not
try to fix them right now.

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[Cooker] Re: mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Duncan
Frederic Crozat posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below,  on Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:08:09 +0200:

 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote:
 
 
 --- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson:
  Why?
 Space constrains on the CDs.
 
 Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me considering
 the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed
 and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped
 Netscape.
 
 Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps
 which uses gecko..

.. And one would /think/ that someone with that sort of interest would
pretty quickly discover the online media sources, as well.  At least, a
developer or even a user that would need to install it to manage his own
compiling or rpm rebuilding  would be far more likely to already know and
be able to manage an online d/l source than joe user with his
non-essential screen savers and other toys.  As well, a Mozilla
developer or referencing package compiler will far more likely have a
decent speed net connection, than ordinary joe user with his dialup modem,
by self-selection on the types of devel package he's interested in.

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[Cooker] Changelog list down? (superkaramba updated)

2003-09-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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It seems the changelog list is down again. I uploaded a new superkaramba
which is on the mirrors, in CVS, but didn't make the changelog list ...

For those interested in superkaramba:

* Sat Sep 13 2003 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.32b-1mdk
- - 0.32b (compiles with python-2.3)
- - New default theme (with mandrakesecure theme and two examples)
- - Put menus back
- - Add scripts in profile.d to ensure path is set for restored session
- - When opening a new theme, start in system theme directory (p1)

I would like feedback on the default theme (if you start it from the
menu in Applications-Monitoring), and also suggestions for which themes
to package (I only want to package the really good ones). I was considering:
- -T-bar
- -O-bar
- -Liquid-weather-plus
- -One of the smooth-resizing tuxbar incarnations

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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Ric Johnson wrote:

 Precisely.

 So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of
 those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX
 MB) or ...?

Well, why do they need to build galeon, when it is included??


 I know there is a space crunch but I seriously think that
 mozilla-* are not the items to be removed unless MDK is changing
 the default browser suite.


Mozilla has never been the default browser, Konqueror and Galeon are.

 This may sound a little simple but why don't MDK take every game
 off of CD1, 2  3 and put them all on a 4th CD = games.iso.  At
 the very least, there will be room for mozilla-devel...
 (The marketing dept. might like that too.)

At one stage the 3rd CD was supposed to be mainly devel stuff ...
anyway, my vote is for a 4th CD, for stuff that is absolutely trivial
(games, themes, etc etc).

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] BitTorrent suggestion

2003-09-15 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Hello,

For the final Mandrake release could you not split the torrents
(http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/ ) up by CD (and md5sum)? Instead
package them as one.

Here is the rationale behind my request. Firstly, it means that
availability of each of the three CDs will be broadly equal since in
order to get any of them you will have to get (and share) all of them.
It also helps that you can now easily set the download everything
serially without swamping your connection any more than a single
BitTorrent would. Finally many people often have a bad experience when
using Mandrake for the first time because they do not have all three CDs
from which to choose packages from. Packaging everything together
encourages more people to download the full set.

I ran the first Mandrake 9.1 tracker and found people are willing to
download all three CDs in one big lump. Since BitTorrent can resume (and
verify), it is no problem if you have to stop and restart at a later
point which helps with such a long download.




Re: [Cooker] Changelog list down? (superkaramba updated)

2003-09-15 Thread Jure Repinc
Buchan Milne wrote:
It seems the changelog list is down again. I uploaded a new superkaramba
which is on the mirrors, in CVS, but didn't make the changelog list ...
Yup it seams to be down again :( The last e-mail I got from it is from 
13th september.




[Cooker] [Bug 5687] [zsh] zsh tries to run bash_completion!

2003-09-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5687





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-09 10:00 ---
Have you tried the latest bash-completion package? It should fix this.


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If the $HOME/.zshrc is missing, it sources the default one and generates again
lots of messages, and the completion system fails.

Setting a local .zshrc circumvent the pbs, but this lacks elegance :)



[Cooker] [Bug 5688] [harddrake] New: Hardware detection overrides user preferences when choosing driver modules

2003-09-15 Thread [info]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5688

   Product: harddrake
 Component: harddrake
   Summary: Hardware detection overrides user preferences when
choosing driver modules
   Product: harddrake
   Version: 9.2-11mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: harddrake
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop. I'm running Mandrake 9.2RC2. My problem is this: 
my computer 
has a sound card that can use either the snd-intel8x0 module or the i810_audio module. 
I prefer the 
i810_audio one; however, whenever I choose this module, the system resets to the 
snd-intel8x0 one 
on startup.

I can get around this easily enough, by disabling automatic hardware detection in the 
Services box. 
But it seems to me the system should accept a user-defined change--or better yet, 
whenever it finds 
a change, it should ask the user whether to keep the change or not.

End of complaint. Everything else I've found in 9.2RC2 looks great! I love the new 
startup screen. 
8^D

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[Cooker] [Bug 5689] [Installation] New: Welcome to Mandrake Linux documentation install broken

2003-09-15 Thread [duanev]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5689

   Product: Installation
 Component: Installation
   Summary: Welcome to Mandrake Linux documentation install broken
   Product: Installation
   Version: 1.835
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: Installation
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Updated 9.2rc2 over a 9.0 system.  Once KDE was up the Welcome to Mandrake
Linux splash screen appeared.  I clicked on Documentation and got:

The documentation isn't installed on your system. Do you want to
install the needed packages (root password needed)?

(p.s. I did select Documentation during installation)
I said Yes and acted like it was loading some packages.  However, no CD was
ever prompted for.  Instead I got a popup from the Mandrake Help Center:

/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Starter.html/index.html cannot be displayed
. No Help entry of this type.



Additionally, when I choose No to the install docs popup, it tries to install
them anyway.

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Re: [Cooker] BitTorrent suggestion

2003-09-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 14:16:39 Uhr MET, schrieb Sitsofe Wheeler:
 For the final Mandrake release could you not split the torrents
 (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/ ) up by CD (and md5sum)? Instead
 package them as one.

So we should keep it the same as with the 9.2rc2 torrent link?
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[Cooker] [Bug 5690] [Installation] New: ADSL Sagem F@st 800 not detected and not installed

2003-09-15 Thread [g.collin]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5690

   Product: Installation
 Component: hardware
   Summary: ADSL Sagem [EMAIL PROTECTED] 800 not detected and not installed
   Product: Installation
   Version: 1.836
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: hardware
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Using 9.2rc2, the installer and the draknet tool does not detect my USB sagem 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 800. 
After installation, the network tool doesn't detect it too, whereas I can see it in 
hard-drake. 
 
It was not detected in Mandrake 9.1 either, but an installation of the eagle driver 
1.04 did make it work perfectly under 9.1 
 
Even when manually selected, it doesn't work. The modem isn't even trying to 
synchronize

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Austin
On 09/15/2003 06:41:50 AM, Jure Repinc wrote:
Warly wrote:
A poll on club shows that (now) most of the users prefers 700 MB
discs over 650 MB ones.
Yup 700 is the way to go. In shops where I buy them I can't even see any 650  
CD-Rs :)
We've discussed this before.
It doesn't matter if 700 MB CD's are available, it matters if someone wants to  
install Mandrake on an old i586 to make an ftp server or something.  Or old  
laptops or whatever.  They do not have the option of upgrading their CD-ROM  
drive, and why should they have to?  I assume the people with fancy new  
machines can also download a few extra packages.

Austin

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[Cooker] [Bug 5398] [apache-conf] Apache should not specify a default character set for text/* types

2003-09-15 Thread [jmdault]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5398


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According to http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.2.2 and
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset when a charset
parameter is specified in the Content-Type HTTP header sent by the server, it
overrides the charset specified in the meta tag of the HTML document.

Apache shipped with Cooker has the directive AddDefaultCharset set to
ISO-8859-1 (see commonhttpd.conf). Consequently, all HMTL documents are
considered as ISO-8859-1 documents by conforming web browsers such as Mozilla,
even if they are UTF-8 or Windows-1252 documents according to their meta tag.

This behavior, though not severe, is a bit irritating because in most case (if
not all) the meta tag reflects the correct character set for the document.


Therefore, the AddDefaultCharset directive should be set back to its default
value (Off).



Re: [Cooker] Fwd: AbiWord 2.0

2003-09-15 Thread Austin
On 09/15/2003 06:23:10 AM, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
Just a friendly reminder to our beloved downstream maintainers that
AbiWord 2.0.0 has been released for general consumption and is the new
stable release (as 1.99.x has long been more stable than 1.0).
Additionally, the 1.0 branch is closed and completely unsupported.
STABLE MY ASS!

After spending two hours writing a exam for my students yesterday morning, it  
crashed when I tried to save the document.  I had to start all over again  
because I was making up the questions as I went along.  Of course I started  
over in openoffice.

It's a pity, because abiword is SO fast, and has better Wordperfect support.   
Why do people insist on sending me wordperfect documents anyway?

Austin

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[Cooker] ANN: Mandrake GDM themes based on bootsplashes

2003-09-15 Thread John Keller
Thanks to Olivier Blin, there's a package in contrib with alternate graphic
bootsplashes. And thanks to Tim Butler and Brant Fitzsimmons, some of these
themes are custom-designed for Mandrake.

I've whipped up a couple of GDM login themes based on these two guys' work.
Only two of the three possible designs are in place, but I hope to have the
third (present in the bootsplash-themes package) if possible.

This is a request for people to download the gdm themes and give them a
look-see. You can find them at:
http://john.keller.free.fr/

Each theme has two variations. I originally made an off-centered layout for
Brant's Enterprise Linux theme. However, there is a version with the login
box in the typical centered location. I'd like to hope that feedback goes
with the off-centered design, but am willing to bow to public opinion if
people think the centered version is better.

My first try with Tim's glowing theme had me cutting off the icon bar about
3/4 of the way across the screen -- I didn't want to darken the bright
Mandrake star. After a bit of juggling, I made the star a separate element,
which you'll see in the second download.

The trick is, the star may float in relation to the light rays' source on
different resolutions. This is where I'd love to hear from those with
high-res environments. The same goes for the Enterprise theme: the thumbnail
doesn't do it justice because Xnest didn't allow me to use it at 1024x768,
and the login box isn't meant to scale proportionately to the resolution.

Please let me know via the list your impressions. And if there are any
volunteers for packaging the final two themes, I'd wouldn't turn you down!

- John





Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Ciger
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Austin wrote:
| We've discussed this before.
| It doesn't matter if 700 MB CD's are available, it matters if someone
| wants to  install Mandrake on an old i586 to make an ftp server or
| something.  Or old  laptops or whatever.  They do not have the option of
| upgrading their CD-ROM  drive, and why should they have to?  I assume
| the people with fancy new  machines can also download a few extra
packages.
|
| Austin
I think, that in this case is better to create an unsupported/unofficial
~  version, fitting on 650MB disks, unless Mandrakesoft releases both
version (clearly marked, so that there is no confusion and people mixing
up disks).
Honestly, how many such old machines are going to be installed with
Mandrake ? I didn't see a machine unable to read 700MB ISOs in a very
long time. If the box is unable to read them, then probably Mandrake
isn't the best choice for it anyway - low memory, old CPU and such.
Jan

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[Cooker] make xconfig fails!

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Fox
After a fresh install and fresh kernel-source package - i tried to run a
make xconfig and got this:


-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux]# make xconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
if [ -f .need_mrproper ]; then \
rm .need_mrproper; \
make mrproper;  \
make preconfig;  \
fi
make -C scripts kconfig.tk
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-6mdk/scripts'
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkparse.o
tkparse.c
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkcond.o
tkcond.c
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkgen.o
tkgen.c
gcc -o tkparse tkparse.o tkcond.o tkgen.o
cat header.tk  ./kconfig.tk
./tkparse  ../arch/i386/config.in  kconfig.tk
3rdparty/lufs/Config.in: 2: unknown command
make[1]: *** [kconfig.tk] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-6mdk/scripts'
make: *** [xconfig] Error 2


Thx,
R.Fox

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Austin
On 09/15/2003 09:42:36 AM, Jan Ciger wrote:
Honestly, how many such old machines are going to be installed with
Mandrake ? I didn't see a machine unable to read 700MB ISOs in a very
long time. If the box is unable to read them, then probably Mandrake
isn't the best choice for it anyway - low memory, old CPU and such.
You're not going to make any enemies by giving 650 MB CD's to a user with a  
new machine.  You will make some enemies by giving 650 MB CD's to a use with  
an old machine, especially in the server/laptop market, which is where  
Mandrake could use some more penetration.

This is a perfect incentive to make a one or two DVD set and sell them.  If  
people could order a FULL two DVD set (cheap, without books or boxes), this  
would be very cool, and generate some profit.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Austin
On 09/15/2003 05:52:36 AM, Austin wrote:
You will make some enemies by giving 650 MB CD's to a use with an old  
machine,
Of course I meant 700 MB here.
Austin


[Cooker] is cooker kernel containing RTL8180 driver (wireless PCMCIA cards)

2003-09-15 Thread _ cosmicflo
Hello,

is the actual kernel containing the RTL8180 driver which seem to be GPL :
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
Thanks

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Re: [Cooker] Totem as default mp3 player for Galeon?

2003-09-15 Thread Kevin Perros
Götz Waschk a écrit :
Am Samstag, 13. September 2003, 07:26:34 Uhr MET, schrieb Larry Nguyen:

Installed RC2 and selected all the Usual Suspect for a workstation.
Fired up Galeon, went to my online mp3 collection (mind ya! I have the
original CDs), click on a playlist, xmms is not listed there. Totem
couldn't play it.


You could file a bug report against totem. What was the error message
and what was the file type?
It might no be a good idea to ship totem as a default multimedia player 
int the 9.2 release. I just downloaded it and it crashed when launching 
files from Nautilus (at the beginning, after a few retries it worked 
). I next tried to play with preferences and it crashed after a few 
clicks. Going to do a bit of bug reporting...




Re: [Cooker] Serial ATA support

2003-09-15 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Monday 15 September 2003 02:06, Mark Watts wrote:
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 Get one with a Silicon Image chipset - those should work with 2.4.22 -
 other chips (Intel ICH5) work with 2.6.x to some degree but you really want
 to be using libata when thats finished.

what about high point they clearly state that they support linux mandrake 
right on their literature. well and redhat and suse.


 Mark.

  OK i have a seriious question for you guys. I want a new mobo w/ serial
  ata. Two questions how good is the support on linux *right now* and is
  there any special controller or board which will definitely work w/ mdk
  9.2. I'm thinking about getting an ASUS A7V8X



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[Cooker] [Bug 5532] [apache-conf] apache2 fails to start

2003-09-15 Thread [jmdault]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5532


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-09 10:41 ---
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apache2 fails to start if a module requires connection to a local mysql server, 
this will happen also if piping logs to mysql, with any upcoming mod_log_sql 
module, etc. 
 
I was bitten by this a coule of days ago while testing apache2_mod_benchmark 
and rebooted the machine. 
 
Proposed fix: 
 
Make MySQL start before apache2.



[Cooker] [Bug 5691] [kernel] New: pluging / unplugin laptop main power hangs

2003-09-15 Thread [alexandre.bustico]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5691

   Product: kernel
 Component: default
   Summary: pluging / unplugin laptop main power hangs
   Product: kernel
   Version: 2.4.22-8mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: default
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


This bug is a regression since the problem don't appear in previous revision
(2.4.22-4 to 2.4.22-7).

With 2.4.22-8, on a dell inspiron 8000, acpi disabled (apm enabled), unpluging
main power hard hangs the system.

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[Cooker] [Bug 5692] [kernel] New: CD cdrom door / tray won't open

2003-09-15 Thread [duanev]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5692

   Product: kernel
 Component: default
   Summary: CD cdrom door / tray won't open
   Product: kernel
   Version: 2.4.22-8mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: default
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


This is probably more of a design issue than a bug but I want to hear the
reasons for, and encourage a re-thinking of, the current design.

It was really silly for CD drive manufacturers to add a software disable for the
eject button on the front of a READ-ONLY device.  I blame them initially for all
this frustration/confusion, but we programmers could fix this problem if we
want.  The general problem: more and more things that used to be simple about
computers are becoming complex.  Enter this particular example: often the cdrom
won't give you the disk and there is usually no good reason for it to refuse.

I'm an OS programmer.  I know handling I/O faults is a pain and have often
wanted to ignore the error paths and events that abort device reads (especially
the async reads).  But locking the drive door for a read-only device just
because we can is a really bad idea.  This makes for an UNresponsive machine
that does not act the way it is expected and ultimately creates distrust in the
user about his system and our software.  I should NOT have to type 'eject' to
make the drive open.  (This is not a MAC, there IS a button, so it needs to work
whenever possible)  The errors must be handled anyway so the OS and all the apps
that use the device must always be prepared for media is gone.  I don't care
if the device is mounted or even in the middle of a read, when I push the open
door button I expect to hear the device spin down immediately and open the door
- no questions asked.  The kernel and apps should recover from these errors
gracefully - it should really be no big deal.

I strongly encourage a rethinking of this design.  Fight the urge to lock
removable media drives unless *and only while* they are writing.  We want
machines that are responsive.  Beeping the PC speaker would be a good way to say
the software knows the user pressed the open door button while the device is
writing (but there probably isn't hardware support for this).  An attitude like
this will greatly improve the look and feel of the user's machine and our
software.

Copy this to any application writers that need to get involved.

Next time I'll go after the Power Button...  (but not on a software forum  :)

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[Cooker] [Bug 4849] [drakwizard] cannot easily select the timezone in the ntp client wizard.

2003-09-15 Thread [warly]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4849


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when using the ntp wizard, in server configuration, the timezone is choosed 
with a list. 
this list is unpractical to use. 
There is more than 500 timezones, and the only way to scroll and select the 
good one is a small arrow at the bottom of the widget.  
It should be done with a tree widget, with 2 level ( Continent - Country ) 
instead of a single big list.



Re: [Cooker] make xconfig fails!

2003-09-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Robert Fox :
 After a fresh install and fresh kernel-source package - i tried to run a
 make xconfig and got this:


 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux]# make xconfig
 rm -f include/asm
 ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
 if [ -f .need_mrproper ]; then \
 rm .need_mrproper; \
 make mrproper;  \
 make preconfig;  \
 fi
 make -C scripts kconfig.tk
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-6mdk/scripts'
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkparse.o
 tkparse.c
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkcond.o
 tkcond.c
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkgen.o
 tkgen.c
 gcc -o tkparse tkparse.o tkcond.o tkgen.o
 cat header.tk  ./kconfig.tk
 ./tkparse  ../arch/i386/config.in  kconfig.tk
 3rdparty/lufs/Config.in: 2: unknown command
 make[1]: *** [kconfig.tk] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-6mdk/scripts'
 make: *** [xconfig] Error 2
Quick fix: edit 3rdparty/Config.in, and remove lufs reference.

BTW, this kind of error appears very often. I really think we should find some 
generic way of testing taht xconfig works that could be included in the 
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[Cooker] Re: posting from gmane?

2003-09-15 Thread Duncan
Luca Berra posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,  on Mon,
15 Sep 2003 00:04:58 +0200:

 Duncan wrote:
 I am now subscribed to this list as a newsgroup thru gmane, and wish to
 stop getting it in my mail box, but still be able to post to it. 
 However, if a poster isn't a member, mail must be confirmed. 
 Unfortunately, SYMPA-Mdk doesn't mention a subscribed but no delivery
 setting for this list as many have.
 
 Does anyone else post thru them?  How do you manage it?
 
 read the headers of mail :)
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.  I read my welcome message, and checked the list web page, finding
instructions for an info message, so requested that and read it, but none
of them had the nomail setting listed, and I didn't check headers
themselves so didn't see the help command listed there.  I thought /sure/
it should have such a setting, but I could find no instructions for how to
invoke it, so I asked..  and got them.  =:^)  Thanks again!

.. Now if only PAN filtered/scored on anything but overview available
headers..  It doesn't (yet), and I just realized a few hours ago that
means I can't filter out HTML directly as I did w/ KMail.  I can still
plonk the bozos that use it, tho!

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Ciger
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Austin wrote:
|
| On 09/15/2003 05:52:36 AM, Austin wrote:
|
| You will make some enemies by giving 650 MB CD's to a use with an old
| machine,
|
|
| Of course I meant 700 MB here.
| Austin
Agreed, but the tradeoff is, how many of such enemies are you going to
make, compared to benefit of having some more packages on the CDs ? You
will never manage to make everybody happy.
Mandrake was never targeting old machines or servers, it was/is
percieved as desktop distro optimized for current machines (though you
can still make a very good servers with it - I am running three myself).
You are probably not going to run KDE (the default desktop) or new Gnome
on the old machines anyway unless you are a masochist.
More valid argument is the problem with people burning 700MB ISOs on
650MB media (I did this mistake myself) or the problems to get 700MB
CD-RW media, but it seems to be a less pressing problem today than one
year ago (when 9.0 was released on 700MB ISOs).
Jan

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Re: [Cooker] Serial ATA support

2003-09-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
 On Monday 15 September 2003 02:06, Mark Watts wrote:
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  Get one with a Silicon Image chipset - those should work with 2.4.22 -
  other chips (Intel ICH5) work with 2.6.x to some degree but you really
 want
  to be using libata when thats finished.
 
 what about high point they clearly state that they support linux mandrake 
 right on their literature. well and redhat and suse.

acording Alan Cox hpt SATA should be suported by the standard PATA driver

hpt them selves have a open source   driver, if the raid code is ommited
it might be merged 
in the kernel.
but i never heard of success or failed stories

svetljo


 
  Mark.
 
   OK i have a seriious question for you guys. I want a new mobo w/
 serial
   ata. Two questions how good is the support on linux *right now* and is
   there any special controller or board which will definitely work w/
 mdk
   9.2. I'm thinking about getting an ASUS A7V8X
 
 
 
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[Cooker] [Bug 5693] [xemacs] New: error on sas-listing-mode

2003-09-15 Thread [alexandre.bustico]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5693

   Product: xemacs
 Component: xemacs
   Summary: error on sas-listing-mode
   Product: xemacs
   Version: 21.4.10-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: minor
  Priority: P2
 Component: xemacs
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


opening a .lst file (menu.lst, used by grub by example) produce this error :

file mode specification error: (error sas-listing-mode)

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[Cooker] [Bug 4143] [urpmi] urpmi in a script launched by cron...

2003-09-15 Thread [fpons]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4143


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-09 10:50 ---
You have to import the key in the rpm database (as currently the pubkey file is
not available in update repository, we will add them so).

I consider the bug closed so, as it is a problem of using cron job, $PATH will
not change anything.

script uses stop on first error, so adding || true works, urpmi set error code
whenever some upgrades didn't work. urpmi.update should not return error code
except on a problem invoking it.

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assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
status: RESOLVED
creation_date: 
description: 
Hello,

I've done a script launched every day by cron.

my script makes:
urpmi.update update_source
urpmi --update --auto-select

This script works fine when launched in a console. This script fails in the
following case when launched by cron : when there is something to download, the
urpmi.update fails and the urpmi is never launched.

And I can't redirect the urpmi.update and the urpmi ouput to a file.

Kind regards,

Vincent RIEDWEG.



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