[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-21-08 22:48 --- solved in mdk-menu-messages-9.2-2mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Two words are not good in the gnome menu and are good in the KDE menu: 1) Simplified-CH see the picture 1 for the error (GNOME) and 2 for the good spelling (KDE) 2) TR-CH see the picture log179 for the error (GNOME) and 4 for the good spelling (KDE) The second one was already reported by mail to Pablo. I add it for information.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-07-08 22:50 --- Currently still a no-go. Two problems need to be solved before this bug: 1. Don't include any locale name with charset in /etc/menu-methods/lang.h. 2. upstream bug in gnome-panel. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: Two words are not good in the gnome menu and are good in the KDE menu: 1) Simplified-CH see the picture 1 for the error (GNOME) and 2 for the good spelling (KDE) 2) TR-CH see the picture log179 for the error (GNOME) and 4 for the good spelling (KDE) The second one was already reported by mail to Pablo. I add it for information.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-08 21:04 --- I've fixed GNOME menu method to generate correct .desktop file (ie with Encoding=UTF-8 entry). See gnome-panel 2.3.4.1-3mdk I'll leave this bug opened until I've check if we are : -generating files correctly (there is a crash in gedit which prevent me to open those files atm) -displaying entries correctly. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: Two words are not good in the gnome menu and are good in the KDE menu: 1) Simplified-CH see the picture 1 for the error (GNOME) and 2 for the good spelling (KDE) 2) TR-CH see the picture log179 for the error (GNOME) and 4 for the good spelling (KDE) The second one was already reported by mail to Pablo. I add it for information.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 14:52 --- Could you provide me the three strings (the correct one, and the two wrong ones) in UTF-8 (an utf8 text file as attach would be ok), it will help me to find the entries in the po files. Or at lest provide the pinyin pronounciation so I can type then (I could try to type them just out of the images, by looking in various dictionnaries, but it would take me a lot of time) Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 14:52 --- Could you provide me the three strings (the correct one, and the two wrong ones) in UTF-8 (an utf8 text file as attach would be ok), it will help me to find the entries in the po files. Or at lest provide the pinyin pronounciation so I can type then (I could try to type them just out of the images, by looking in various dictionnaries, but it would take me a lot of time) Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 14:52 --- Could you provide me the three strings (the correct one, and the two wrong ones) in UTF-8 (an utf8 text file as attach would be ok), it will help me to find the entries in the po files. Or at lest provide the pinyin pronounciation so I can type then (I could try to type them just out of the images, by looking in various dictionnaries, but it would take me a lot of time) Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You reported the bug, or are watching the reporter.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 16:08 --- Fred, I believe this comes from errorneous handling of strings in gnome menu method, not a bug in translation. I have checked, translation is correct. attachment ID 500 and 501 are both observed in trad. Chinese, not simp. Chinese. The string concerned is U+7db2U+8def, and it's byte sequence in UTF-8 is e7 b6 b2 e8 b7 af. However, this byte sequence is also valid Big5 byte sequence, which refers to the 3 chinese characters observed in attached jpeg (id=500). Situation is the same in final attachment (id=502). The string is U+8bbeU+7f6e, which is e8 ae be e7 bd ae in UTF-8. This sequence is valid Chinese characters in GB2312 encoding, i.e. the 3 characters observed in the jpeg. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 20:41 --- Mmh, very interesting indeed. Currently (due to historical reasons) the translations are taken in the locale default encoding, then converted to utf-8 for KDE and Gnome, in order to avoid converting what is already in utf-8, the strigns are checked to see if they are valid utf-8, if yes, they are not converted. THis obvioulsy doesn't work for strings that are both utf-8 and local encoding valid byte sequences. In order to solve another bug, in menudrake (bug #2270), the way it is handled will be changed, translations will be retrieved in utf-8 always, and only converted to locale encoding when needed (not for KDE, Gnome nor ROX; on,ly for WM, icewm, etc), and as the source encoding is always known to be utf-8, no conversion surprises will happen. It should solve this bug too. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 21:37 --- Does this explain why we can see this few garbages caracters in GNOME and they are not garbages in KDE ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-07-06 04:21 --- OK, pablo, I found the root cause of it; it's not an error in menu method (I was saying this too prematurely without investigation), but mainly from gnome-panel's ignorance on Encoding= key of desktop file, and it's intelligent handling of locale encoding. I'll use zh_TW in explanation, zh_CN case is identical. When gnome-panel reads .desktop file, it tries to determine the best matching locale, and thinks that [EMAIL PROTECTED] form has priority over ll_CC form. When it reads Name[zh_TW]=..., it will automatically think that zh_TW.Big5 is a better match (either from an internal list in init_encodings() of gnome-panel/quick-desktop-reader.c, or from $LANGUAGE). Originally, Name[zh_TW.Big5]= is not available in GNOME desktop files (stock ones), but in mdk menu files, it is available (why is it so?), so gnome-panel happily use that instead. Afterwards, it ignores the Encoding= field in desktop file, and unconditionally convert the name and comment from local encoding (Big5) to UTF-8 encoding. As the strings in .desktop file are already in UTF-8, the conversion should fail, and the vanilla UTF-8 strings are used instead as fallback. However, in some particular cases (in this bug report), the conversion succeeded(!), and the new garbage string is used. To fix this mess, going after either gnome-panel (patch attached) or menu (eliminate zh_TW.* and zh_CN.* entries) would do, but I'd suggest fixing both. Pablo, is there any reason to generate these entries in menu? Generating zh_TW, zh_TW.Big5 and zh_TW.big5 entries in menu sounds quite silly to me, as one language should use the same description regardless of the encoding. But I'm not completely clear about how Debian menu works, so please correct me if I'm wrong. Finally, it would also help if mdk generated desktop files have Encoding=UTF-8 in it. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: Two words are not good in the gnome menu and are good in the KDE menu: 1) Simplified-CH see the picture 1 for the error (GNOME) and 2 for the good spelling (KDE) 2) TR-CH see the picture log179 for the error (GNOME) and 4 for the good spelling (KDE) The second one was already reported by mail to Pablo. I add it for information.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-07-06 04:49 --- Created an attachment (id=514) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=514action=view) patch against gnome panel patch for gnome-panel 2.3.3 that avoids unnecessary string conversion when reading desktop file -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: Two words are not good in the gnome menu and are good in the KDE menu: 1) Simplified-CH see the picture 1 for the error (GNOME) and 2 for the good spelling (KDE) 2) TR-CH see the picture log179 for the error (GNOME) and 4 for the good spelling (KDE) The second one was already reported by mail to Pablo. I add it for information.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status|ASSIGNED|NEW Component|i18n|i18n Product|menudrake |menu Version|0.7.3-4mdk |2.1.5-102mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 14:15 --- This is a bug in menu translation, not menudrake.. Reassigning. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status|ASSIGNED|NEW Component|i18n|i18n Product|menudrake |menu Version|0.7.3-4mdk |2.1.5-102mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 14:15 --- This is a bug in menu translation, not menudrake.. Reassigning. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status|ASSIGNED|NEW Component|i18n|i18n Product|menudrake |menu Version|0.7.3-4mdk |2.1.5-102mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 14:15 --- This is a bug in menu translation, not menudrake.. Reassigning. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status|ASSIGNED|NEW Component|i18n|i18n Product|menudrake |menu Version|0.7.3-4mdk |2.1.5-102mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-05-06 14:15 --- This is a bug in menu translation, not menudrake.. Reassigning. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You reported the bug, or are watching the reporter.
