Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Town of Dumas in Co. Tyrone

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

I simply love this kind of information. Not relevant to me personally, but a 
diamond to someone out there. Thank you for sharing Peggy. 

> On 15 Nov 2019, at 6:30 am, Peggy Gordon via CoTyroneList 
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> Hello,
> I have been reading old family letters written abt 1960 regarding the family 
> back in Co. Tyrone.
> The most recent letter repeats that Bettie Ferguson was the daughter of Lord 
> Ferguson/Fergusson, that she lived in a castle, and that she eloped with the 
> groomsman James Caulfield and that would be about 1785. Former letters said 
> it was Samuel Caulfield. Anyway, this  letter says that the castle was in the 
> town of Dumas in Co. Tyrone.
> Does anyone have knowledge of this town and its castle?
> Thank you
> Peggy
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Every Name Index - FULLY COMPLETED

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My heartfelt thanks to Gordon, Barb, Kim, Pat, Ed, Mary, Lindsay, Mary, Bonnie, 
Liona & Jacque! 

You folks are absolute legends! 

With much gratitude for all your hard work and effort. 

With appreciation and warmest regards 

Janet Wilson Fairless 
Brisbane, Austraila 

> On 22 Aug 2019, at 7:34 am, Liz Fitzgerald via CoTyroneList 
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> Thank you to all of you. Your work is much appreciated. Kudos to all of you. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Aug 21, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList 
> mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
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>> A small but dedicated, hard-working band of volunteers came forward to help 
>> us create the Every Name Index of almost 295,000 names in record time!
>> 
>> On behalf of the thousands of CoTyroneIreland.com 
>>  users, we wish to permanently acknowledge 
>> these generous people -
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>> Gordon Wilkinson
>> Barb Coulter
>> Kim Carson
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>> Mary Jarvis
>> Lindsay Graham
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>> Bonnie Jordan
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>> Jacque Newman
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>> This was a HUGE task but seeing the extremely high volume of use the Index 
>> receives it was well-worth the effort.
>> Without such dedicated people, CTI would not survive!
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[CoTyroneMailingList] Ewings - consider following up Ewing's Co.Tyrone to Australia lines.

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

Hello Karen Miller, 

I know that this seems to be counter-intuitive and non-specific advice; might 
you consider making investigations to ascertain if any of your Co.Tyrone, 
Ewings ancestors also branched off into Australia? 

Years of researching my Australian, Wilson, (origins -Co.Tyrone) ancestors 
demonstrate that large chunks of Co.Tyrone families broke off and settled in 
both Australia and America. My Co.Tyrone, G.G.Grandfather Joseph Wilson, had 2 
children, (Andrew & Mary Wilson) and 5 grandchildren immigrate to Australia in 
1856, whilst 3 son’s (Joseph, Matthew & John Wilson) emigrated to Philadelphia, 
America. 4 or 5 of his Wilson, nephews and nieces also emigrated to America 
around the same time. They tended to remain closely connected to other families 
who had also emigrated from the same region of Co.Tyrone and often the first 
generation of new Americans and new Australian’s married into those same 
families from their specific region of Co.Tyrone. 

Many younger sons and daughters from established Co.Tyrone families settled in 
similar groups in the Shellharbour, Illawarra Region of Southern, New South 
Wales in the mid 1850’s, (dairy farming), then later removed en-masse to the 
Tweed River/Richmond region of Northern New South Wales, (new land 
opportunities for timber getting then dairy farming). As one who has been 
studying Co.Tyrone connections for some time, I can tell you that the same name 
groupings persist, in Co.Tyrone, > then Southern, New South Wales,  > then 
Northern, New South Wales, Australia. 

There are several Ewings Roads, Ewings Streets, Ewingsdale regions in northern 
New South Wales, Australia. Ewingsdale is a particularly scenic and fertile 
region with temperate weather conditions. 

Our Australian immigration records are particularly good. Providing, name, 
occupation or calling, immigrant’s age, specific birth place, both their 
parent’s names, whether the immigrant's parents are still alive and where they 
are currently living, religion, education (read and write), whether they have 
relatives already in the Colony of New South Wales, how healthy they are, who 
their sponsor is, etc… Much information can be ascertained from our well 
documented Australian immigration records, then followed up with our well 
documented Death Certificates, which typically list, the deceased parent’s full 
names, (including mother’s maiden name), names of all children whether living 
or deceased, their children’s ages, religion, length of illness, informants, 
length of time in the colony, religion, etc. 

Information from my G.Grandfather, Andrew Wilson's, Australian Death 
Certificate, (born: 1830, Cavandarragh, Parish of Ardstraw, Co.Tyrone - died: 
1904, Foxground, Gerringong/Kiama Region, New South Wales, Australia), has 
provided much valued information to U.S. based descendants of his 3 brother’s 
and 5 cousins who settled in America, (1st Philadelphia then Indiana). 
Australian collaborative information has allowed American researchers push-back 
further generations, (circa late 1700’s) in Co.Tyrone. 

Might be worth your consideration. 

With warmest regards from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia 

Janet Wilson Fairless 





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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Armstrongs from Gortin and Beltrim

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

https://www.armstrongclan.info 

Please see the above link to the excellent Armstrong Clan Association website. 
The Armstrong Clan was ‘revived,’ in July 1969, inspired by Neil Armstrong’s, 
‘one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.’ The Clan gathers every 
second year in the heart of Border Reiver county, in the Langholm, Canonbie, 
Lockerbie region in Scotland. There are fabulous Armstrong centric tours of the 
historically rich local area and dinners held over the weekend. 

The 20th July 2019, will be the Golden Jubilee, '50 Year Anniversary,' of the 
‘Armstrong clan coming together again. 

The Armstrong Clan Association has a huge data base of Armstrongs all over the 
world, (with many from Co.Tyrone & Fermanagh), and is accessible for a very 
small membership contribution, (easily payable via PayPal). There are many DNA 
studies of the various, Irish and international Armstrong descendants also 
available.  

The Armstrong stronghold of Gilnocke Tower has been beautifully restored in 
anticipation of the Jubilee celebrations this year. 


Kind regards 
Janet Fairless (nee Wilson) 
 

> On 20 Feb 2019, at 3:06 am, Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you are interested in background reading on the Armstrongs, and other 
> border reiver families, such as Nixon, Elliot, Bell, Graham, Henderson, Hogg 
> and many other names now common in Fermanagh & Tyrone then a good read is: 
> “The Border Reivers” by Godfrey Watson ISBN 0 7091 4478 4. Published 1974.
>  
> It explains about their almost completely lawless lives in the  1400s, 1500s 
> and early 1600s and how, as a result, many ended up in Fermanagh and adjacent 
> counties. Bloodthirsty stuff, with plenty of feuds, treachery, executions and 
> cattle stealing.
> 
> 
> From: Michael Richey via CoTyroneList 
> To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List  
> Cc: Michael Richey 
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2019, 16:46
> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Armstrongs from Gortin and Beltrim
> 
> Hi Maureen:
> My wife and I went to Fermanagh County, N. Ireland Spring of 2018.  We found 
> many of her ancestors in the Maguires Bridge area.
> Enlisted the help of a local genealogist who got us pointed in the right 
> direction.
> Visited a local cemetery and found LARGE headstones laying flat on the ground 
> and they had church records and we visited the farm site where her Armstrongs 
> had actually lived.
> Also went to PRONI in belfast.
> Found out that her Armstrongs were border raiders. 
> Some also emigrated to Canada. One of the headstones had actually recorded 
> that information.
> 
> Mike Richey-
> ps. My "Richey's" (Ritchies) are from Tyrone County, haven't found out from 
> where exactly.
> mrichey56...@gmail.com 
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:15 PM Maureen Baker via CoTyroneList 
> mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
> wrote:
> I have Armstrong ancestors who lived in Gortin and Beltrim, Tyrone County and 
> some are buried in St. Patricks Church of Ireland (Lower Bodaney). 
>  
> I’m planning a trip to Ireland, which I’m very excited about and plan on 
> visiting Gortin (visit St. Patricks Church of Ireland, walk along Main 
> Street, Gortin Glen Park, locate the property of my grandmother Fanny 
> Armstrong (1874-1868) her parents and her grandparent’s property. She 
> emigrated to Canada in the late 1800s. 
>  
> My cousin visited Gortin in the 70s and found a distant cousin living in 
> Gortin (Pentland) and said there were ruins of the property in Beltrim.  I’ve 
> identified the property on Griffiths Valuations which is close to Gortin Glen 
> Lakes
>  
> Fanny’s parents:   Samuel Armstrong  1839-1891; and Mary Robinson 1847-?
>  
> Fanny’s grandparents: Thomas Armstrong 1787-1877 and Elizabeth McNickle 
> 1797-1867 (buried in St. Patrick’s)
>  
> Fanny’s great grandfather Lancelot Armstrong 1754-1829.
>  
> Looking for additional information also someone who might be related to the 
> Armstrong clan.
>  
> Maureen
> Caledon, Ontario, Canada  
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] (no subject)

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

Wow! Dave thank you for sharing this important health information on the risks 
of Malignant Hyperthermia (MH), in those with Irish ancestry.  

With thanks 

Janet Fairless (nee Wilson)
Brisbane 
Australia 

> On 26 Jan 2019, at 7:21 am, Dave Clements via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
>  In January of 2018, you added an article on Joseph Dougherty, the Canadian 
> buried in the Grange. His sister was my grandmother, Martha Doherty Clements 
> who lived at Lower Tully across the border in Londonderry before emigrating 
> to Canada. 
> 
> Based on medical reactions and testing of descendants in both families, 
> Joseph and Martha were carriers of a genetic condition, known as malignant 
> hyperthermia or MH.  The University of Cork has centre for study of this 
> condition which is known in Irish families. It is an autosomal dominant 
> condition. DNA testing is not  definitive and muscle biopsies are often used.
> 
> Links for description
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_hyperthermia 
> 
> https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/malignant-hyperthermia/symptoms-causes/syc-20353750
>  
> 
> 
> Until surgery under anesthetic became common, this condition was unknown.
> 
> The condition would have come from one of Joseph's parents either William 
> Doherty (1842-1926) or  Jane Thompson(1849-1945).  William's parents were 
> William Doherty and Peggy Dunn ( no data, haven't searched).  Jane's parents 
> were Nathaniel Thompson and Martha Martin( no data, haven't searched).
> 
> I'm interested in knowing whether there are other descendant families who may 
> have condition whether they know it or not.
> 
> 
> Dave Clements
> Bowmanville, ON
> 
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] DNA

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

Hello Margaret,

I too, am lousy at science and definitely not a DNA expert.. but I do know that 
Y67 refers to testing to 67 male chromosomes for comparison with the Family 
Tree data base.   All males are XY. All females are XX. 

Testing to Y67 with 'Family Tree DNA', helped me establish that a chap, (I had 
been communicating with in England, [hello Peter G.]), had a line of Wilsons, 
where his male ancestor was the brother of my G.G.G.Grandfather, (living in 
Co.Tyrone in the early 1800’s).  Peter’s line descended from an Andrew Wilson 
born in the late 1700’s, my line came from Andrew’s brother, Joseph Wilson, 
also born in the late 1700’s. 

I was able to compare this U.K based chap against my Australian brother’s DNA, 
with another kind DNA participant in the USA. The Y67 Family Tree DNA results 
proved that my brother & he, shared the exact same G.G.G.Grandfather, (with no 
mutations or zero distance). Testing to the Y36 level confirmed that we were 
all closely related, (as far back as Andrew & Joseph Wilson’s father who was 
born in the mid 1700’s). Testing to Y67 showed the ‘Branch,' in the family, and 
allowed us to untangle our separate Wilson lines. Y67 DNA testing is a 
wonderful resource particularly when there are a lot of common names, who lived 
in close geographical proximity. 

Family Tree DNA does 3 main types of testing.  Male Only Paternal Surname line, 
(Y-DNA) Female Ancestors lines, (MtDNA), and Family Finder (all relationships 
and great for confirming suspected relationships with both male and female). 

With Family Tree DNA testing they offer testing at a number of levels. 

Y12 - Looking at 12 Chromosomes - Very Basic 
Y25 - Looking at 25 Chromosomes - Still very basic
Y36 - Looking at 36 Chromosomes - Good Starter Test 
Y67 - Looking at 67 Chromosomes - More detailed information regarding 
relationships. 
Y111 - Looking at 111 Chromosomes - Highly detailed 
Y500 - Looking at 500 Chromosomes -  Professional level that will also 
follow your male (Paternal line, through Father to Son only), going back 
thousands of years following a single migration path and line of descent from 
one male. (G.G.G.G.G. Grandfather, > G.G.G.G.G. Grandfather, > G.G.G.G.F. 
Grandfather, > G.G. G.Grandfather. > G.G. Grandfather, > G.Grandfather > 
Grandfather > Father > Son.). 

One of the best explanations I came across that helped me understand mutations, 
(used to describe genetic distances), 0, -1, - 2, - 3, is to imagine that your 
earliest ancestor is a piece of paper with the letter ‘e,’ typed on it that is 
to be photocopied, (creating his son).. That son carries YDNA ‘e’, chromosomal 
information directly from his father.. This son, then has his own son; but the 
photocopy grandson of our original ‘e,’ guy is a photocopy of a photocopy… and 
so on.. One can imagine that as time goes by, that a photocopy of a photocopy 
might being to fade (mutate) a little.. over time, For example; the ‘e' might 
end up looking a like an ‘o’..   so the original photocopy, (earliest know male 
ancestor) might have have been an ‘e,' but a generation or five later that ‘e’ 
might have mutated to an ‘o,’ and all the copies going forward will bear 
segments of DNA that look like an ‘o.’  Until the next mutation comes along… 

I do hope this lame explanation helps just a little.. 


With best wishes from balmy sub-tropical Brisbane, Australia 

Janet Fairless (nee Wilson) 
Researching Wilsons from the town lands of Cavandarragh & Whitehouse, Parish of 
Ardstraw, Co.Tyrone. Circa 1760’s to mid-1800’s.  




> On 10 Dec 2018, at 5:07 am, margaret marion via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do you mean make them Y67?
> I have done my Armstrong DNA on Family tree DNA.  I am kit 566581.  I am in 
> the Old Scottish Group.  I am also in the Armstrong Group. The closest 
> matches I have is number 6 - 10 which could be 10 or more generations away.  
> And few have a family tree posted. And every time I want to do something, it 
> costs me money.  I did the full test to start.
> I then did my Armstrong DNA with Ancestry and then downloaded it to gedmatch. 
>  In gedmatch I can see how many CM's we have in common and work out possible 
> relationships from that.
> I find Ancestry DNA affordable and easy to get a download from.
> My Armstrong gedmatch number is for Robert Armstrong A199189.
> My other Armstrong gedmatch number is Ed Mawson A192469.
> I appreciate the discussion, I learn something from them.
> I find I love to do the family research, always loved history.  But the DNA 
> stuff, does not stick in my brain, I hated biology etc in school.  Now I need 
> it.
> Margaret Marion
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[CoTyroneMailingList] McCay & McCoy - Ron McCoy & Marion Shephard -

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

Hello All,

I just wanted to thank Marion Shephard for the excellent question and Ron McCoy 
for the interesting and informative response. 

These sorts of exchanges benefit us all. 

Marion, Ron, I have an interest in the McCays from around the Newtownstewart 
area in the Parish of Ardstraw, Co.Tyrone. Is there anywhere that either of you 
have your early to mid 19th Century family trees available for perusal? 

I have found a distant DNA connection between my Wilson’s and the McCay’s from 
that region, and would love to be able to join the dots. 

With gratitude for your questions and answers. 


Janet Fairless (nee Wilson)
Brisbane
Australia 
(Researching my Wilson’s from townland of Cavandarragh/Whitehouse from the 
early 1800’s) 
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Wilson Family Notes, Co. Londonderry, Ireland 1823-69

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

I would like to add my thanks to Len for the new Wilson notes! 
I have a mob of Wilson ancestors who came from Co.Tyrone, and ironically 
settled next to Margaret Barne’s Wilsons in the same region of New South Wales, 
Australia in the mid 1800’s. At least Margaret and I have DNA information to be 
able to separate our lines. 
I don’t know where any of us would be without the hard work and dedication of 
our wonderful transcribers like Len Swindley and our admin Jim!

With much gratitude and warmest regards 

Janet Fairless (nee Wilson)
Brisbane
Australia 

> On 22 Sep 2018, at 6:15 pm, James McKane via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hm, those Darned Irish!!  Just like my James McKanes. they're all 
> over the place.
> 
> 
> Jim McKane
> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 8:47 PM Margaret Barnes via CoTyroneList 
> mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
> wrote:
> Thanks for these Wilson Notes Len.
> Unfortunately when the majority of one’s Wilsons were named James and the 
> others Robert it is very
> difficult to work out who is related to whom.
> 
> Margaret in Oz.
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Northern Irish winter of 1946-7

[Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList]

What a wonderful recollection of the Fermanagh Blizzard of 47! Thank you so 
very much for sharing your story with us. 

Kindest regards from balmy Brisbane 

Janet Fairless (nee Wilson) 

> On 18 Aug 2018, at 5:30 pm, Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
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> G'day listers,
> 
> My Wilkinsons came from Dungannon and I have just been reading Viola's lovely 
> report of the Fermanagh Blizzard of Jan 1947, 
>  and well can I remember that 
> winter! I lived in Belfast at the time and enjoyed tobogganing in the deep 
> snow of that winter. Father was works manager of Patrick & Wilkinson, 
> Engineers, Belfast, and was able to secure steel runners for our sled; steel 
> for such frivolities being rare after the war!
> 
> By January '47 the path to our front door was covered with a solid layer of 
> ice (compacted snow) and I was instructed by my father to 'clear the gangway' 
> after school (his father being a marine engineer). It was hard going for a 
> young lad barely half Viola's age at that time and when father arrived home, 
> I complained how difficult it was to shovel the ice off the slate flags 
> (paving). "Why not cut it up into blocks and build yourself an igloo?" he 
> suggested. I asked what an igloo was and he sketched the essentials. I built 
> that igloo which, like Viola's snowmen, remained long after the snow had 
> melted and was still there come Easter. 'Twas  a cold winter to be sure an' 
> all.
> 
> We couldn't get to Australia quickly enough and arrived here a year later!
> 
> Cheers, Gordon
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