Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[Philippe Michon via Crm-sig]

Dear all,

CHIN also supports this initiative and would like to contribute to it. It
may be one of my colleagues or one of our partners, but I would appreciate
being kept informed.

@Achille, I think you wanted to answer the issue regarding the translation
working group. So I added your name to the list. :)

Best regards,
Philippe

Le mer. 10 mars 2021 à 04:29, Achille Felicetti via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> a écrit :

> Dear George, all
>
> For the Italian translation, you can certainly count on me as well :-))
>
> Ciao,
> A.
>
> Il giorno 10 mar 2021, alle ore 09:49, George Bruseker via Crm-sig <
> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> ha scritto:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I, too, fully support this important initiative and hope to learn much
> from colleagues in the discussion. The opening discussion was already very
> fruitful to start us off at looking at fundamental issues to take into
> account in the method of creating ontologies.
>
> The shared zotero library suggestion is a great one.
>
> Best,
>
> George
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:41 AM Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig <
> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
>
>> Indeed the intention is to focus on ontological level for the CRM and
>> not to expand to data structures, schemas etc. The issue label does not
>> represent the issue exactly, but it can act as a reminder. I will add
>> the reference to the library.
>>
>> T.
>>
>> On 09/03/2021 06:58, Nicola Carboni wrote:
>> > Dear Thanasis, all,
>> >
>> > I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other
>> > than the already cited ones, is "Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of
>> > Colonialism in Museum Documentation”
>> > <https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture> by Hannah Turner.
>> >
>> > Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data
>> > structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or
>> > specifically on ontologies and CRM?
>> > While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously
>> > important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and
>> entail
>> > a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational
>> > foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information,
>> > as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter.
>> >
>> > I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the
>> > process of documentation/development. I would add that we should
>> include
>> > some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of
>> > formalisation.
>> >
>> > * Implementations and Instances of the Ontology
>> > -- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we
>> > should not be too involved or prescriptive.
>> >
>> > I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in
>> > implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the
>> > concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the
>> > prescriptive stance.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Nicola
>> >
>> > P.s. Great initiative :-)
>> >
>> > On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
>> >
>> > Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a
>> > good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530.
>> >
>> > T.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:
>> >
>> > I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I
>> > too have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to
>> > share; I have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero
>> > library and this is a good excuse to do so. For a single article
>> > to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's
>> > Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital
>> > Humanities"
>> > <
>> https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357
>> > <
>> https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357
>> >>
>> >     as an interesting read.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Erin
>> >
>> >
>> > Erin Canning
>> >
>> > canni...@uoguelph.ca

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[Achille Felicetti via Crm-sig]

Dear George, all

For the Italian translation, you can certainly count on me as well :-))

Ciao,
A.

> Il giorno 10 mar 2021, alle ore 09:49, George Bruseker via Crm-sig 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I, too, fully support this important initiative and hope to learn much from 
> colleagues in the discussion. The opening discussion was already very 
> fruitful to start us off at looking at fundamental issues to take into 
> account in the method of creating ontologies.
> 
> The shared zotero library suggestion is a great one. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> George
> 
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:41 AM Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig 
> mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:
> Indeed the intention is to focus on ontological level for the CRM and 
> not to expand to data structures, schemas etc. The issue label does not 
> represent the issue exactly, but it can act as a reminder. I will add 
> the reference to the library.
> 
> T.
> 
> On 09/03/2021 06:58, Nicola Carboni wrote:
> > Dear Thanasis, all,
> > 
> > I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other 
> > than the already cited ones, is "Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of 
> > Colonialism in Museum Documentation” 
> > <https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture 
> > <https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture>> by Hannah Turner.
> > 
> > Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data 
> > structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or 
> > specifically on ontologies and CRM?
> > While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously 
> > important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and entail 
> > a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational 
> > foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information, 
> > as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter.
> > 
> > I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the 
> > process of documentation/development. I would add that we should include 
> > some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of 
> > formalisation.
> > 
> > * Implementations and Instances of the Ontology
> > -- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we
> > should not be too involved or prescriptive.
> > 
> > I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in 
> > implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the 
> > concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the 
> > prescriptive stance.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Nicola
> > 
> > P.s. Great initiative :-)
> > 
> > On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a
> > good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530.
> > 
> > T.
> > 
> > 
> > On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:
> > 
> > I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I
> > too have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to
> > share; I have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero
> > library and this is a good excuse to do so. For a single article
> > to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's
> > Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital
> > Humanities"
> > 
> > <https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357
> >  
> > <https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357>
> > 
> > <https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357
> >  
> > <https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357>>>
> > as an interesting read.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Erin
> > 
> > 
> > Erin Canning
> > 
> > canni...@uoguelph.ca 
> > <mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca><mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca 
> > <mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>
> > <mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca <mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>>>
> > Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS
> > https://lincsproject.ca/ <https://lincsproject.ca/>
> > <https://lincsproject.ca/ 
> > <https://lincsproject.ca/>><https://lincsprojec

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[George Bruseker via Crm-sig]

Dear all,

I, too, fully support this important initiative and hope to learn much from
colleagues in the discussion. The opening discussion was already very
fruitful to start us off at looking at fundamental issues to take into
account in the method of creating ontologies.

The shared zotero library suggestion is a great one.

Best,

George

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:41 AM Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:

> Indeed the intention is to focus on ontological level for the CRM and
> not to expand to data structures, schemas etc. The issue label does not
> represent the issue exactly, but it can act as a reminder. I will add
> the reference to the library.
>
> T.
>
> On 09/03/2021 06:58, Nicola Carboni wrote:
> > Dear Thanasis, all,
> >
> > I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other
> > than the already cited ones, is "Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of
> > Colonialism in Museum Documentation”
> > <https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture> by Hannah Turner.
> >
> > Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data
> > structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or
> > specifically on ontologies and CRM?
> > While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously
> > important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and entail
> > a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational
> > foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information,
> > as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter.
> >
> > I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the
> > process of documentation/development. I would add that we should include
> > some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of
> > formalisation.
> >
> > * Implementations and Instances of the Ontology
> > -- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we
> > should not be too involved or prescriptive.
> >
> > I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in
> > implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the
> > concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the
> > prescriptive stance.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Nicola
> >
> > P.s. Great initiative :-)
> >
> > On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a
> > good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530.
> >
> > T.
> >
> >
> > On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:
> >
> > I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I
> > too have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to
> > share; I have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero
> > library and this is a good excuse to do so. For a single article
> > to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's
> > Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital
> > Humanities"
> > <
> https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357
> > <
> https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357
> >>
> > as an interesting read.
> >
> > Best,
> > Erin
> >
> >
> > Erin Canning
> >
> > canni...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca
> > <mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>>
> > Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS
> > https://lincsproject.ca/
> > <https://lincsproject.ca/><https://lincsproject.ca/
> > <https://lincsproject.ca/>>
> >
> >
> >
>  
> > *From:* Crm-sig  on behalf of
> > Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig 
> > *Sent:* March 8, 2021 12:52 PM
> > *To:* crm-sig 
> > *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM
> > EXTERNAL EMAIL:
> >
> > Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.
> >
> > For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions,
> > following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being
> > formed to
> > discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to
> >   

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig]

Indeed the intention is to focus on ontological level for the CRM and 
not to expand to data structures, schemas etc. The issue label does not 
represent the issue exactly, but it can act as a reminder. I will add 
the reference to the library.


T.

On 09/03/2021 06:58, Nicola Carboni wrote:

Dear Thanasis, all,

I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other 
than the already cited ones, is "Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of 
Colonialism in Museum Documentation” 
<https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture> by Hannah Turner.


Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data 
structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or 
specifically on ontologies and CRM?
While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously 
important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and entail 
a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational 
foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information, 
as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter.


I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the 
process of documentation/development. I would add that we should include 
some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of 
formalisation.


* Implementations and Instances of the Ontology
-- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we
should not be too involved or prescriptive.

I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in 
implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the 
concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the 
prescriptive stance.


Best,

Nicola

P.s. Great initiative :-)

On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:

Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a
good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530.

T.


On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:

I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I
too have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to
share; I have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero
library and this is a good excuse to do so. For a single article
to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's
Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital
Humanities"

<https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357

<https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357>>
as an interesting read.

Best,
Erin


Erin Canning

canni...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca
<mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>>
Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS
https://lincsproject.ca/
<https://lincsproject.ca/><https://lincsproject.ca/
<https://lincsproject.ca/>>



*From:* Crm-sig  on behalf of
Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig 
*Sent:* March 8, 2021 12:52 PM
    *To:* crm-sig 
*Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM
EXTERNAL EMAIL:

Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.

For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions,
following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being
formed to
discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to
contribute to
the discussion.

All the best,

Thanasis

On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote:

Dear Thanasis, all,
Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of
bias in
digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos
publication:


https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>


<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>>


<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>


<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>>>

I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge and
methodology especially in digital

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[Nicola Carboni via Crm-sig]

Dear Thanasis, all,


I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other 
than the already cited ones, is ["Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of 
Colonialism in Museum 
Documentation”](https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture) by Hannah 
Turner.


Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data 
structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or 
specifically on ontologies and CRM?
While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously 
important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and entail 
a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational 
foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information, 
as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter.


I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the 
process of documentation/development. I would add that we should include 
some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of 
formalisation.



* Implementations and Instances of the Ontology
 -- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we 
should not be too involved or prescriptive.


I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in 
implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the 
concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the 
prescriptive stance.



Best,

Nicola


P.s. Great initiative :-)



On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:

Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a 
good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530.


T.


On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:
I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I too 
have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to share; I 
have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero library and this 
is a good excuse to do so. For a single article to start things off, 
I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's Next: The Radical, 
Unrealized Potential of the Digital Humanities" 
<https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357> 
as an interesting read.


Best,
Erin


Erin Canning

canni...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>
Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS
https://lincsproject.ca/<https://lincsproject.ca/>



*From:* Crm-sig  on behalf of 
Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig 

*Sent:* March 8, 2021 12:52 PM
*To:* crm-sig 
*Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM
EXTERNAL EMAIL:

Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.

For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions,
following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being formed 
to
discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to contribute 
to

the discussion.

All the best,

Thanasis

On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote:

Dear Thanasis, all,
Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of bias in
digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos publication:

https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>>


I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge and
methodology especially in digital project. I could join the 
discussion

of your working group if you want.
Cheers,
Anais

Le mer. 3 mars 2021 à 14:58, Athanasios Velios 
<mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk>>> a 
écrit :


 Dear all,

 In version 7.1 a short but important sentence has been 
added at the end

 of the scope section:

 "Discussions on the types of bias present in the CIDOC CRM 
are in

 progress within the CIDOC CRM community."

 Issue 530 is used to track the discussions here:

http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure

<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>

 <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure

<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>>


 It is important to engage in this discussion so that we 
first understand
 the issues around bias and privileged positions and then 
how these may

 or may not impact the development of the model.

 We will then be more confident in making a more complete 
statement is
 future versions. Issue 530 is scheduled to be discussed at 
the community

 session of the forthcoming meeting.

 Looking forward to it.

 All the best,

 Thanasis
 ___
 C

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig]

Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a 
good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530.


T.


On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:
I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I too have 
a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to share; I have 
been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero library and this is a good 
excuse to do so. For a single article to start things off, I would 
recommend Miriam Posner's "What's Next: The Radical, Unrealized 
Potential of the Digital Humanities" 
<https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357> 
as an interesting read.


Best,
Erin


Erin Canning

canni...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>
Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS
https://lincsproject.ca/<https://lincsproject.ca/>



*From:* Crm-sig  on behalf of Athanasios 
Velios via Crm-sig 

*Sent:* March 8, 2021 12:52 PM
*To:* crm-sig 
*Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM
EXTERNAL EMAIL:

Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.

For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions,
following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being formed to
discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to contribute to
the discussion.

All the best,

Thanasis

On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote:

Dear Thanasis, all,
Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of bias in
digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos publication:

https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>>


I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge and
methodology especially in digital project. I could join the discussion
of your working group if you want.
Cheers,
Anais

Le mer. 3 mars 2021 à 14:58, Athanasios Velios mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk>>> a écrit :

 Dear all,

 In version 7.1 a short but important sentence has been added at the end
 of the scope section:

 "Discussions on the types of bias present in the CIDOC CRM are in
 progress within the CIDOC CRM community."

 Issue 530 is used to track the discussions here:

http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure 

<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>
 <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure 

<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>>


 It is important to engage in this discussion so that we first understand
 the issues around bias and privileged positions and then how these may
 or may not impact the development of the model.

 We will then be more confident in making a more complete statement is
 future versions. Issue 530 is scheduled to be discussed at the community
 session of the forthcoming meeting.

 Looking forward to it.

 All the best,

 Thanasis
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[Erin Canning via Crm-sig]

I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I too have a 
reading list on the subject that I would be happy to share; I have been meaning 
to pull everything into a Zotero library and this is a good excuse to do so. 
For a single article to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's 
"What's Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital 
Humanities"<https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357>
 as an interesting read.

Best,
Erin


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From: Crm-sig  on behalf of Athanasios Velios via 
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Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

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Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.

For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions,
following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being formed to
discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to contribute to
the discussion.

All the best,

Thanasis

On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote:
> Dear Thanasis, all,
> Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of bias in
> digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos publication:
>
> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425
> <https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>
>
> I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge and
> methodology especially in digital project. I could join the discussion
> of your working group if you want.
> Cheers,
> Anais
>
> Le mer. 3 mars 2021 à 14:58, Athanasios Velios  <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk>> a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> In version 7.1 a short but important sentence has been added at the end
> of the scope section:
>
> "Discussions on the types of bias present in the CIDOC CRM are in
> progress within the CIDOC CRM community."
>
> Issue 530 is used to track the discussions here:
>
> http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure
> <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>
>
> It is important to engage in this discussion so that we first understand
> the issues around bias and privileged positions and then how these may
> or may not impact the development of the model.
>
> We will then be more confident in making a more complete statement is
> future versions. Issue 530 is scheduled to be discussed at the community
> session of the forthcoming meeting.
>
> Looking forward to it.
>
> All the best,
>
> Thanasis
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

[Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig]

Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.

For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions, 
following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being formed to 
discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to contribute to 
the discussion.


All the best,

Thanasis

On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote:

Dear Thanasis, all,
Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of bias in 
digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos publication:


https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 



I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge and 
methodology especially in digital project. I could join the discussion 
of your working group if you want.

Cheers,
Anais

Le mer. 3 mars 2021 à 14:58, Athanasios Velios > a écrit :


Dear all,

In version 7.1 a short but important sentence has been added at the end
of the scope section:

"Discussions on the types of bias present in the CIDOC CRM are in
progress within the CIDOC CRM community."

Issue 530 is used to track the discussions here:

http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure


It is important to engage in this discussion so that we first understand
the issues around bias and privileged positions and then how these may
or may not impact the development of the model.

We will then be more confident in making a more complete statement is
future versions. Issue 530 is scheduled to be discussed at the community
session of the forthcoming meeting.

Looking forward to it.

All the best,

Thanasis
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