Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Maxence Sartiaux]

That's the only solution to keep your server online, a csgo 7€ + phone numer 
~10€ it's cheap when a server can give you more than 100€ par months 

And that's the solution valve gave us when you ask to the support 


From: "Charalampos Galanis"  
To: "csgo servers"  
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:49:51 AM 
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a 
temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned. 



Back to the topic , are my thoughts real? Are these server owners currently own 
a dozen of phone numbers or csgo accounts in order to keep their servers 
farming for them? Because explain me how they still have the plugins active... 
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:45, ο χρήστης "Charalampos Galanis" < xngala...@gmail.com > 
έγραψε: 




I am reffering to Matthias of course 
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:43, ο χρήστης "Charalampos Galanis" < xngala...@gmail.com > 
έγραψε: 

BQ_BEGIN


I am glad that this was clarified quickly because I was in a "wtf" state after 
Absurds Mind post. 

And to clarify , I never said that I don't like your stance or tolerance 
against smurfs, (unless you are referring to Absurds again, dunno) you have the 
right to be with or against them for your own reasons. To sum up: 

1) I asked you about the GSLT phone ban, describing my ban experience , you 
told me a smurf and since you have zero tolerance against smurfs, you blocked 
me, it is your right , I am not gonna complain. It is the same that I have the 
right not to friend someone (my steam profile rules) sending me an invite, 
unless he leaves a good reason/comment describing why, I just don't tolerate 
having random people as friends. 

2) I explained it here today the whole story but I don't request you to unblock 
me because I respect your decisions. 
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:25, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" < 
proph...@sticed.org > έγραψε: 

BQ_BEGIN
He is referring to me. And I don't recall any argument. But judging by his 
phrasing it was probably about smurfing as well and he doesn't like my stance 
on it. 

On 26.02.2016 03 :14, Charalampos Galanis wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind me the 
cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you don't mind , send 
me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't remember insulting someone 
like you here or Steam, I could say the exact opposite, that I admire your 
writings. 

Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly doubtable. 

Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive. 

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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

Back to the topic , are my thoughts real? Are these server owners currently
own a dozen of phone numbers or csgo accounts in order to keep their
servers farming for them? Because explain me how they still have the
plugins active...
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:45, ο χρήστης "Charalampos Galanis" 
έγραψε:

> I am reffering to Matthias of course
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:43, ο χρήστης "Charalampos Galanis" <
> xngala...@gmail.com> έγραψε:
>
>> I am glad that this was clarified quickly because I was in a "wtf" state
>> after Absurds Mind post.
>>
>> And to clarify , I never said that I don't like your stance or tolerance
>> against smurfs, (unless you are referring to Absurds again, dunno) you have
>> the right to be with or against them for your own reasons. To sum up:
>>
>> 1) I asked you about the GSLT phone ban, describing my ban experience  ,
>> you told me a smurf and since you have zero tolerance against smurfs, you
>> blocked me, it is your right , I am not gonna complain. It is the same that
>> I have the right not to friend someone (my steam profile rules) sending me
>> an invite, unless he leaves a good  reason/comment describing why, I just
>> don't tolerate having random people as friends.
>>
>> 2) I explained it here today the whole story but I don't request you to
>> unblock me because I respect your decisions.
>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:25, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>> proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:
>>
>>> He is referring to me. And I don't recall any argument. But judging by
>>> his phrasing it was probably about smurfing as well and he doesn't like my
>>> stance on it.
>>>
>>> On 26.02.2016 03:14, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>>>

 Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind
 me the cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you don't
 mind , send me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't remember
 insulting someone like you here or Steam, I could say the exact opposite,
 that I admire your writings.

 Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly
 doubtable.

 Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

Yeah, it's just trolls smelling the fake blood someone poured into the 
water.

I'm just gonna leave and wait for the sharks to starve. Good job though.

On 26.02.2016 03:41, Daniel Barreiro wrote:

You're proving my point.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek 
> wrote:


Not sure why you're making stuff up, but it's not particularly
nice, even compared to the average writer here on this list (see
Daniel's reply).

On 26.02.2016 03 :31, Absurd Minds wrote:


No I mean matthias. I had him on steam for a while and all he
did was call me an idiot and criticized or argued with
everything I said, so I removed him. Sorry if I came across as
meaning you. I don't even know you and have nothing against
you. I just thought it was funny we both had the same toxic
experience with matthias.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Nomaan Ahmad]

Guys please stop with the offtopic comments.
On 26 Feb 2016 02:42, "Daniel Barreiro" 
wrote:

> You're proving my point.
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek <
> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>
>> Not sure why you're making stuff up, but it's not particularly nice, even
>> compared to the average writer here on this list (see Daniel's reply).
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 03:31, Absurd Minds wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No I mean matthias. I had him on steam for a while and all he did was
>>> call me an idiot and criticized or argued with everything I said, so I
>>> removed him. Sorry if I came across as meaning you. I don't even know you
>>> and have nothing against you. I just thought it was funny we both had the
>>> same toxic experience with matthias.
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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

I am reffering to Matthias of course
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:43, ο χρήστης "Charalampos Galanis" 
έγραψε:

> I am glad that this was clarified quickly because I was in a "wtf" state
> after Absurds Mind post.
>
> And to clarify , I never said that I don't like your stance or tolerance
> against smurfs, (unless you are referring to Absurds again, dunno) you have
> the right to be with or against them for your own reasons. To sum up:
>
> 1) I asked you about the GSLT phone ban, describing my ban experience  ,
> you told me a smurf and since you have zero tolerance against smurfs, you
> blocked me, it is your right , I am not gonna complain. It is the same that
> I have the right not to friend someone (my steam profile rules) sending me
> an invite, unless he leaves a good  reason/comment describing why, I just
> don't tolerate having random people as friends.
>
> 2) I explained it here today the whole story but I don't request you to
> unblock me because I respect your decisions.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:25, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:
>
>> He is referring to me. And I don't recall any argument. But judging by
>> his phrasing it was probably about smurfing as well and he doesn't like my
>> stance on it.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 03:14, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind
>>> me the cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you don't
>>> mind , send me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't remember
>>> insulting someone like you here or Steam, I could say the exact opposite,
>>> that I admire your writings.
>>>
>>> Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly
>>> doubtable.
>>>
>>> Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive.
>>>
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[Charalampos Galanis]

I am glad that this was clarified quickly because I was in a "wtf" state
after Absurds Mind post.

And to clarify , I never said that I don't like your stance or tolerance
against smurfs, (unless you are referring to Absurds again, dunno) you have
the right to be with or against them for your own reasons. To sum up:

1) I asked you about the GSLT phone ban, describing my ban experience  ,
you told me a smurf and since you have zero tolerance against smurfs, you
blocked me, it is your right , I am not gonna complain. It is the same that
I have the right not to friend someone (my steam profile rules) sending me
an invite, unless he leaves a good  reason/comment describing why, I just
don't tolerate having random people as friends.

2) I explained it here today the whole story but I don't request you to
unblock me because I respect your decisions.
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:25, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:

> He is referring to me. And I don't recall any argument. But judging by his
> phrasing it was probably about smurfing as well and he doesn't like my
> stance on it.
>
> On 26.02.2016 03:14, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>
>>
>> Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind me
>> the cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you don't
>> mind , send me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't remember
>> insulting someone like you here or Steam, I could say the exact opposite,
>> that I admire your writings.
>>
>> Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly doubtable.
>>
>> Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive.
>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Daniel Barreiro]

You're proving my point.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek <
proph...@sticed.org> wrote:

> Not sure why you're making stuff up, but it's not particularly nice, even
> compared to the average writer here on this list (see Daniel's reply).
>
> On 26.02.2016 03:31, Absurd Minds wrote:
>
>>
>> No I mean matthias. I had him on steam for a while and all he did was
>> call me an idiot and criticized or argued with everything I said, so I
>> removed him. Sorry if I came across as meaning you. I don't even know you
>> and have nothing against you. I just thought it was funny we both had the
>> same toxic experience with matthias.
>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

Not sure why you're making stuff up, but it's not particularly nice, 
even compared to the average writer here on this list (see Daniel's reply).


On 26.02.2016 03:31, Absurd Minds wrote:


No I mean matthias. I had him on steam for a while and all he did was 
call me an idiot and criticized or argued with everything I said, so I 
removed him. Sorry if I came across as meaning you. I don't even know 
you and have nothing against you. I just thought it was funny we both 
had the same toxic experience with matthias.


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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Daniel Barreiro]

Everyone has a toxic experience with Matthias. He just likes to complain.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Absurd Minds 
wrote:

> No I mean matthias. I had him on steam for a while and all he did was call
> me an idiot and criticized or argued with everything I said, so I removed
> him. Sorry if I came across as meaning you. I don't even know you and have
> nothing against you. I just thought it was funny we both had the same toxic
> experience with matthias.
> On Feb 25, 2016 9:15 PM, "Charalampos Galanis" 
> wrote:
>
>> Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind me
>> the cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you don't
>> mind , send me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't remember
>> insulting someone like you here or Steam, I could say the exact opposite,
>> that I admire your writings.
>>
>> Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly doubtable.
>>
>> Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive.
>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:01, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" <
>> goabs...@absurdminds.net> έγραψε:
>>
>>> Haha he did the same to me. I ended up removing him as well. He's as
>>> toxic on steam as he is in the mailing list.
>>> On Feb 25, 2016 8:20 PM, "Charalampos Galanis" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a  more personal
 level, the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some
 questions about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and just
 unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top priority but it
 is strange that you blocked me then and now you act like this never
 happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.
 Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
 proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:

> Yeah, that sucks as well.
> By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.
>
> On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>
> Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most
> populated community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
> surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
> running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
> They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
> generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
> plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
> GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
> owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo 
> accounts
> (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
> issue for them)
>
> (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of
> economics , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" 
> when
> he realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" <
> goabs...@absurdminds.net> έγραψε:
>
>> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
>> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including
>>> h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
>>> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>>>
>>> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its
>>> one of the most used plugins out there.
>>>
>>> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
>>> From: st...@tbctactics.com
>>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also
>>> receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets 
>>> banned.
>>>
>>> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
>>> csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin 
>>> within
>>> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>>>
>>> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats
>>> causing your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your 
>>> hands
>>> and support third party addon's plugins.
>>> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>>> behind it.
>>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>>
>>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Absurd Minds]

No I mean matthias. I had him on steam for a while and all he did was call
me an idiot and criticized or argued with everything I said, so I removed
him. Sorry if I came across as meaning you. I don't even know you and have
nothing against you. I just thought it was funny we both had the same toxic
experience with matthias.
On Feb 25, 2016 9:15 PM, "Charalampos Galanis"  wrote:

> Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind me
> the cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you don't
> mind , send me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't remember
> insulting someone like you here or Steam, I could say the exact opposite,
> that I admire your writings.
>
> Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly doubtable.
>
> Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:01, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" 
> έγραψε:
>
>> Haha he did the same to me. I ended up removing him as well. He's as
>> toxic on steam as he is in the mailing list.
>> On Feb 25, 2016 8:20 PM, "Charalampos Galanis" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a  more personal
>>> level, the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some
>>> questions about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and just
>>> unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top priority but it
>>> is strange that you blocked me then and now you act like this never
>>> happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.
>>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>>> proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:
>>>
 Yeah, that sucks as well.
 By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.

 On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:

 Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
 community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
 surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
 running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
 They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
 generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
 plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
 GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
 owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
 (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
 issue for them)

 (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of
 economics , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when
 he realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
 Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" <
 goabs...@absurdminds.net> έγραψε:

> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>
>> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including
>> h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
>> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>>
>> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its
>> one of the most used plugins out there.
>>
>> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>>
>> --
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
>> From: st...@tbctactics.com
>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also
>> receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets 
>> banned.
>>
>> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
>> csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
>> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>>
>> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
>> your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
>> support third party addon's plugins.
>> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>> behind it.
>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>
>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
>> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and 
>> while
>> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
>> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system 
>> that
>> is lacking transparency as is.

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

He is referring to me. And I don't recall any argument. But judging by 
his phrasing it was probably about smurfing as well and he doesn't like 
my stance on it.


On 26.02.2016 03:14, Charalampos Galanis wrote:


Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind 
me the cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you 
don't mind , send me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't 
remember insulting someone like you here or Steam, I could say the 
exact opposite, that I admire your writings.


Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly doubtable.

Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive.

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[Charalampos Galanis]

Ι never behaved like this in any member here , could you please remind me
the cases I am toxic against you or someone else here? And if you don't
mind , send me a PM of what is your steam name, I honestly don't remember
insulting someone like you here or Steam, I could say the exact opposite,
that I admire your writings.

Unless you love trolling with some people here but it is highly doubtable.

Sorry if this becoming personal but I found your last post offensive.
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 04:01, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" 
έγραψε:

> Haha he did the same to me. I ended up removing him as well. He's as toxic
> on steam as he is in the mailing list.
> On Feb 25, 2016 8:20 PM, "Charalampos Galanis" 
> wrote:
>
>> Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a  more personal level,
>> the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some questions
>> about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and just
>> unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top priority but it
>> is strange that you blocked me then and now you act like this never
>> happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.
>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>> proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:
>>
>>> Yeah, that sucks as well.
>>> By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.
>>>
>>> On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
>>> community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
>>> surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
>>> running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
>>> They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
>>> generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
>>> plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
>>> GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
>>> owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
>>> (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
>>> issue for them)
>>>
>>> (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of
>>> economics , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when
>>> he realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
>>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" <
>>> goabs...@absurdminds.net> έγραψε:
>>>
 I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
 On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:

> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including
> h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>
> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its
> one of the most used plugins out there.
>
> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
> From: st...@tbctactics.com
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive
> a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>
> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
> csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>
> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
> your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
> support third party addon's plugins.
> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>
> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
> behind it.
> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>
> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system 
> that
> is lacking transparency as is.
>
> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>
> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
> people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
> plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>
> --
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> From: proph...@sticed.org
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Absurd Minds]

Haha he did the same to me. I ended up removing him as well. He's as toxic
on steam as he is in the mailing list.
On Feb 25, 2016 8:20 PM, "Charalampos Galanis"  wrote:

> Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a  more personal level,
> the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some questions
> about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and just
> unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top priority but it
> is strange that you blocked me then and now you act like this never
> happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:
>
>> Yeah, that sucks as well.
>> By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>>
>> Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
>> community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
>> surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
>> running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
>> They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
>> generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
>> plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
>> GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
>> owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
>> (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
>> issue for them)
>>
>> (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of
>> economics , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when
>> he realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" <
>> goabs...@absurdminds.net> έγραψε:
>>
>>> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
>>> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including
 h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
 So I still think there is some false positive here.

 My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one
 of the most used plugins out there.

 It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.

 --
 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
 From: st...@tbctactics.com
 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive
 a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

 I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
 csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
 sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.

 It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
 your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
 support third party addon's plugins.
 On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
 proph...@sticed.org> wrote:

 I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
 behind it.
 If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
 example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.

 Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
 handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
 I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
 raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
 is lacking transparency as is.

 On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

 Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
 people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
 plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.

 --
 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: proph...@sticed.org
 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive
 a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

 "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
 their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
 applied incorrectly."

 Is there a way to get some transparency here?
 The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining
 about their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for
 simply saying servers were always rightfully banned.
 The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
 hosting servers for this game.

 On 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

My servers are just fine, people come o play because there are kinda of
monopoly to be hosted in greek IP ,don't call me racist or ksenophobic, I
just love to support my fellow community with ultra low latency local
servers only , since I started hosting!

But I wonder how some other communities are too sturdy to hold the banned
plugins and generate TONS of money due to players going to play only there,
just because they want to f*p on the Dragon Lore they can get by just
choosing it from a menu.
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:47, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:

> Thank you for the update. So what will happen to your servers?
>
> On 26.02.2016 02:40, hlstriker wrote:
>
>> In regards to my servers, I think they were getting banned due to setting
>> the
>> m_iItemDefinitionIndex sendprop in some plugins even though those plugins
>> weren't violating the rules.
>>
>> See this post psychonic made earlier today:
>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2396736=50
>>
>> It doesn't seem like this is 100% confirmed but I'd say there is a good
>> chance this is the issue (I really hope so because I'm clueless
>> otherwise).
>>
>> A popular plugin that sets m_iItemDefinitionIndex is Deathmatch Goes
>> Advanced:
>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=233685
>>
>> One of my own plugins would also set m_iItemDefinitionIndex to give
>> players
>> their weapon skins from weapons spawned in the world. Hopefully the CS:GO
>> devs will apply weapon skins to map spawned weapons since most likely
>> plugins can't do this anymore without being banned.
>>
>>
>>
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[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

Thank you for the update. So what will happen to your servers?

On 26.02.2016 02:40, hlstriker wrote:

In regards to my servers, I think they were getting banned due to setting the
m_iItemDefinitionIndex sendprop in some plugins even though those plugins
weren't violating the rules.

See this post psychonic made earlier today:
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2396736=50

It doesn't seem like this is 100% confirmed but I'd say there is a good
chance this is the issue (I really hope so because I'm clueless otherwise).

A popular plugin that sets m_iItemDefinitionIndex is Deathmatch Goes
Advanced:
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=233685

One of my own plugins would also set m_iItemDefinitionIndex to give players
their weapon skins from weapons spawned in the world. Hopefully the CS:GO
devs will apply weapon skins to map spawned weapons since most likely
plugins can't do this anymore without being banned.



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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

I was not complaining about the ban like other people here , i was just
complaining about the mobile phone ban , exactly the fact that Vitaly made
clear about the flagged mobile phones. When Valve introduced GSLT's I
thought it could be a good idea to link my secondary phone number with a
smurf account (in total , I own 2 phone numbers and 3 csgo accounts, 1 main
and 2 smurfs) just in case when I got banned , I could just register the
same secondary phone number to my 2nd smurf account. After the first ban
wave, I got banned (expected) and tried the above action I just described ,
just to realise that I couldn't create any tokens with that account (and
that is exaxtly the point I was complaining about and tried to ask you in
person why that happened but you blocked me and also the point that Vitally
mentioned about the flagged mobile numbers, a pity to learn it the hard way
then). Of course my last resort was to use my main mobile number and main
csgo account and never try plugins like them again. However, there are
still servers out there using them like no tomorrow and that is grinding my
gears!
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:23, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:

> Oh yeah, I remember. You were complaining about your server and account
> being blacklisted. For good. And that the token-ban actually affected your
> csgo smurf account as well.
>
> On 26.02.2016 02:18, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>
> Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a  more personal level,
> the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some questions
> about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and just
> unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top priority but it
> is strange that you blocked me then and now you act like this never
> happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:
>
>> Yeah, that sucks as well.
>> By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>>
>> Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
>> community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
>> surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
>> running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
>> They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
>> generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
>> plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
>> GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
>> owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
>> (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
>> issue for them)
>>
>> (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of
>> economics , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when
>> he realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" <
>> goabs...@absurdminds.net> έγραψε:
>>
>>> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
>>> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including
 h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
 So I still think there is some false positive here.

 My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one
 of the most used plugins out there.

 It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.

 --
 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
 From: st...@tbctactics.com
 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive
 a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

 I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
 csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
 sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.

 It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
 your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
 support third party addon's plugins.
 On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
 proph...@sticed.org> wrote:

 I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
 behind it.
 If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
 example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.

 Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
 handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
 I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
 raising the 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[hlstriker]

In regards to my servers, I think they were getting banned due to setting the
m_iItemDefinitionIndex sendprop in some plugins even though those plugins
weren't violating the rules.

See this post psychonic made earlier today: 
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2396736=50

It doesn't seem like this is 100% confirmed but I'd say there is a good
chance this is the issue (I really hope so because I'm clueless otherwise).

A popular plugin that sets m_iItemDefinitionIndex is Deathmatch Goes
Advanced: 
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=233685

One of my own plugins would also set m_iItemDefinitionIndex to give players
their weapon skins from weapons spawned in the world. Hopefully the CS:GO
devs will apply weapon skins to map spawned weapons since most likely
plugins can't do this anymore without being banned.



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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

So , guys, do you believe that some "people" will start selling GSLT'S? Or
they will just stock with about 10 mobile numbers and csgo accounts as if
is ez pz lemon squeezy?
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:18, ο χρήστης "Charalampos Galanis" 
έγραψε:

> Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a  more personal level,
> the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some questions
> about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and just
> unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top priority but it
> is strange that you blocked me then and now you act like this never
> happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:
>
>> Yeah, that sucks as well.
>> By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>>
>> Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
>> community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
>> surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
>> running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
>> They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
>> generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
>> plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
>> GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
>> owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
>> (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
>> issue for them)
>>
>> (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of
>> economics , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when
>> he realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
>> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" <
>> goabs...@absurdminds.net> έγραψε:
>>
>>> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
>>> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including
 h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
 So I still think there is some false positive here.

 My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one
 of the most used plugins out there.

 It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.

 --
 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
 From: st...@tbctactics.com
 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive
 a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

 I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
 csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
 sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.

 It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
 your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
 support third party addon's plugins.
 On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
 proph...@sticed.org> wrote:

 I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
 behind it.
 If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
 example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.

 Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
 handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
 I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
 raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
 is lacking transparency as is.

 On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

 Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
 people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
 plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.

 --
 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: proph...@sticed.org
 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive
 a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

 "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
 their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
 applied incorrectly."

 Is there a way to get some transparency here?
 The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining
 about their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for
 simply saying servers were always rightfully banned.
 The lack of transparency simply confuses others and 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

Oh yeah, I remember. You were complaining about your server and account 
being blacklisted. For good. And that the token-ban actually affected 
your csgo smurf account as well.


On 26.02.2016 02:18, Charalampos Galanis wrote:


Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a more personal 
level, the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some 
questions about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and 
just unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top 
priority but it is strange that you blocked me then and now you act 
like this never happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.


Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" 
> έγραψε:


Yeah, that sucks as well.
By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.

On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:


Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most
populated community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find
(not big surprise)that they already have ws and other banned
plugins , up and running as if they never got banned. And do you
know the even worst thing? They profit A LOT from this , because
all these many people (traffic) generate money to them via
advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser plugins are known to
be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if  GSLT's are
sold by means of black market someway or just these server owners
have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo
accounts (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers
everyday, not big issue for them)

(Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of
economics , there were elections last summer and he just
"ragequitted" when he realised the big pile of s**t is my country
now.

Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds"
> έγραψε:

I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.

On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -" > wrote:

Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned
including h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
So I still think there is some false positive here.

My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being
flagged. Its one of the most used plugins out there.

It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.



Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
From: st...@tbctactics.com 
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will
also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server
Login Token gets banned.

I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to
the vanilla csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting
which specific plugin within sourcemod is not allowed is
outside of valve's parameters.

It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is
thats causing your account to get banned.  Its not
Valve's job to hold your hands and support third party
addon's plugins.

On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin"
Kollek" > wrote:

I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of
skin-menu for example with the ip in it, that would
be enough for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I
requested handling/punishing those servers through an
interface like this, and while I also welcome the
further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of
trust in the system that is lacking transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers
were banned? Because people saying they not
breaking any rules and still get banned points to
plugins that might not be seen as breaking the
guidelines.



To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

Without wanting to deviate the discussion here in a  more personal level,
the last time I spoke to you on Steam and I were asking some questions
about the GSLT bans, you called me an "idiot" , "smurf" and just
unfriend/blocked me. I understand that your privacy is top priority but it
is strange that you blocked me then and now you act like this never
happened by reminding me how "greek-friendly" you are.
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:05, ο χρήστης "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
proph...@sticed.org> έγραψε:

> Yeah, that sucks as well.
> By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.
>
> On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:
>
> Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
> community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
> surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
> running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
> They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
> generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
> plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
> GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
> owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
> (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
> issue for them)
>
> (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of economics
> , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when he
> realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" 
> έγραψε:
>
>> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
>> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including h3bus
>>> (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
>>> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>>>
>>> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one
>>> of the most used plugins out there.
>>>
>>> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
>>> From: st...@tbctactics.com
>>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>>
>>> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
>>> csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
>>> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>>>
>>> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
>>> your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
>>> support third party addon's plugins.
>>> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>>> behind it.
>>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>>
>>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
>>> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
>>> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
>>> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
>>> is lacking transparency as is.
>>>
>>> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
>>> people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
>>> plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>>>
>>> --
>>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> From: proph...@sticed.org
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>>
>>> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
>>> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
>>> applied incorrectly."
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
>>> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining
>>> about their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for
>>> simply saying servers were always rightfully banned.
>>> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
>>> hosting servers for this game.
>>>
>>> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>>>
>>> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because
>>> servers using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to
>>> be in violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s
>>> Steam User Account.
>>>
>>> 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

Speaking about mobile phone numbers in my country for example,  one cannot
simply change his number as many times he wants, every and each number are
registered with your identity. But I don't know if in the rest of the world
, you can obtain numbers easily, without registration
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 03:00, ο χρήστης "Charalampos Galanis" 
έγραψε:

> Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
> community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
> surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
> running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
> They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
> generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
> plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
> GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
> owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
> (they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
> issue for them)
>
> (Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of economics
> , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when he
> realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
> Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" 
> έγραψε:
>
>> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
>> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including h3bus
>>> (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
>>> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>>>
>>> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one
>>> of the most used plugins out there.
>>>
>>> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
>>> From: st...@tbctactics.com
>>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>>
>>> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla
>>> csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
>>> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>>>
>>> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
>>> your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
>>> support third party addon's plugins.
>>> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>>> behind it.
>>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>>
>>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
>>> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
>>> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
>>> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
>>> is lacking transparency as is.
>>>
>>> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
>>> people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
>>> plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>>>
>>> --
>>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> From: proph...@sticed.org
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>>
>>> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
>>> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
>>> applied incorrectly."
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
>>> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining
>>> about their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for
>>> simply saying servers were always rightfully banned.
>>> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
>>> hosting servers for this game.
>>>
>>> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>>>
>>> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because
>>> servers using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to
>>> be in violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s
>>> Steam User Account.
>>>
>>> We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all
>>> existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We
>>> also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts
>>> sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate any 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

Yeah, that sucks as well.
By the way, you still owe me that souvláki from for 5(?) years ago.

On 26.02.2016 02:00, Charalampos Galanis wrote:


Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most 
populated community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not 
big surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up 
and running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even 
worst thing? They profit A LOT from this , because all these many 
people (traffic) generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + 
banned skin chooser plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit 
right here thinking if GSLT's are sold by means of black market 
someway or just these server owners have already about a dozen of 
mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts (they make so much money  from 
their csgo gameservers everyday, not big issue for them)


(Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of 
economics , there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" 
when he realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.


Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" 
> έγραψε:


I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.

On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -" > wrote:

Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned
including h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
So I still think there is some false positive here.

My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being
flagged. Its one of the most used plugins out there.

It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.


Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
From: st...@tbctactics.com 
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also
receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login
Token gets banned.

I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the
vanilla csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which
specific plugin within sourcemod is not allowed is outside of
valve's parameters.

It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats
causing your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to
hold your hands and support third party addon's plugins.

On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek"
> wrote:

I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of
skin-menu for example with the ip in it, that would be
enough for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like
this, and while I also welcome the further measurements to
be taken upon a violation, raising the stakes will just
also raise my lack of trust in the system that is lacking
transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were
banned? Because people saying they not breaking any
rules and still get banned points to plugins that
might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.



To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

From: proph...@sticed.org 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts
will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game
Server Login Token gets banned.

"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators
complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t
encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied
incorrectly."

Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The
one's complaining about their servers presumably being
banned for nothing, or "you" for simply saying servers
were always rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and
discourages us from hosting servers for this game.

On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Charalampos Galanis]

Do you know what is the worst thing now? Just browse the most populated
community servers (30 slots or above) and you will find (not big
surprise)that they already have ws and other banned plugins , up and
running as if they never got banned. And do you know the even worst thing?
They profit A LOT from this , because all these many people (traffic)
generate money to them via advertisement pop ups + banned skin chooser
plugins are known to be player magnet. And I sit right here thinking if
GSLT's are sold by means of black market someway or just these server
owners have already about a dozen of mobile phone numbers and csgo accounts
(they make so much money  from their csgo gameservers everyday, not big
issue for them)

(Offtopic, answer to Matthias) Varoufakis is no more minister of economics
, there were elections last summer and he just "ragequitted" when he
realised the big pile of s**t is my country now.
Στις 26 Φεβ 2016 02:45, ο χρήστης "Absurd Minds" 
έγραψε:

> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>
>> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including h3bus
>> (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
>> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>>
>> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one
>> of the most used plugins out there.
>>
>> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>>
>> --
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
>> From: st...@tbctactics.com
>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>
>> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla csgo
>> server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
>> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>>
>> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
>> your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
>> support third party addon's plugins.
>> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>> behind it.
>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>
>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
>> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
>> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
>> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
>> is lacking transparency as is.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>>
>> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
>> people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
>> plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>>
>> --
>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> From: proph...@sticed.org
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>
>> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
>> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
>> applied incorrectly."
>>
>> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
>> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining about
>> their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for simply
>> saying servers were always rightfully banned.
>> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
>> hosting servers for this game.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>>
>> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers
>> using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
>> violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam
>> User Account.
>>
>> We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all
>> existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We
>> also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts
>> sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs.
>> The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from
>> using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam
>> User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
>> number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time
>> of the GSLT ban.
>>
>> To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: after
>> the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

I also remember hlstriker's servers being banned.
I couldn't see anything that even hinted towards any violation on his 
site. If he reads this, it would be nice to get an update on his side of 
the story.


On 26.02.2016 01:54, Don Park wrote:

If it's not h3bus's deathmatch plugin then it has to be something else.

http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/

That's the server guidelines, I don't see how it's unclear actually.  
Anything related to giving access to inventory ownership, false skill 
group/profile rank status, and or interfering with your own items.  
They even give you examples.




- Don


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Absurd Minds 
> wrote:


I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.

On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -" > wrote:

Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned
including h3bus (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
So I still think there is some false positive here.

My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being
flagged. Its one of the most used plugins out there.

It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.


Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
From: st...@tbctactics.com 
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also
receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login
Token gets banned.

I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the
vanilla csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which
specific plugin within sourcemod is not allowed is outside of
valve's parameters.

It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats
causing your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to
hold your hands and support third party addon's plugins.

On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek"
> wrote:

I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of
skin-menu for example with the ip in it, that would be
enough for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like
this, and while I also welcome the further measurements to
be taken upon a violation, raising the stakes will just
also raise my lack of trust in the system that is lacking
transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were
banned? Because people saying they not breaking any
rules and still get banned points to plugins that
might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.



To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

From: proph...@sticed.org 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts
will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game
Server Login Token gets banned.

"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators
complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t
encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied
incorrectly."

Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The
one's complaining about their servers presumably being
banned for nothing, or "you" for simply saying servers
were always rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and
discourages us from hosting servers for this game.

On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:

Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login
Tokens because servers using them were violating
the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
violation of the guidelines are tracked via their
GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.

We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam
User Account, 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Don Park]

If it's not h3bus's deathmatch plugin then it has to be something else.

http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/

That's the server guidelines, I don't see how it's unclear actually.
Anything related to giving access to inventory ownership, false skill
group/profile rank status, and or interfering with your own items.  They
even give you examples.



- Don


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Absurd Minds 
wrote:

> I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
> On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:
>
>> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including h3bus
>> (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
>> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>>
>> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one
>> of the most used plugins out there.
>>
>> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>>
>> --
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
>> From: st...@tbctactics.com
>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>
>> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla csgo
>> server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
>> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>>
>> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing
>> your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and
>> support third party addon's plugins.
>> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>> behind it.
>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>
>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
>> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
>> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
>> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
>> is lacking transparency as is.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>>
>> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
>> people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
>> plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>>
>> --
>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> From: proph...@sticed.org
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>
>> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
>> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
>> applied incorrectly."
>>
>> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
>> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining about
>> their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for simply
>> saying servers were always rightfully banned.
>> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
>> hosting servers for this game.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>>
>> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers
>> using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
>> violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam
>> User Account.
>>
>> We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all
>> existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We
>> also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts
>> sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs.
>> The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from
>> using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam
>> User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
>> number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time
>> of the GSLT ban.
>>
>> To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: after
>> the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP addresses, we do
>> not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we do not ban players for
>> playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
>> tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t
>> encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.
>>
>> You can find the server guidelines here:
>> 
>> http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/
>>
>>
>>
>> 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Absurd Minds]

I use h3bus's deathmatch plugin but I am not banned.
On Feb 25, 2016 7:02 PM, "Ejziponken -"  wrote:

> Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including h3bus
> (creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).
> So I still think there is some false positive here.
>
> My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one of
> the most used plugins out there.
>
> It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
> From: st...@tbctactics.com
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>
> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla csgo
> server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>
> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing your
> account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and support
> third party addon's plugins.
> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>
> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
> behind it.
> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for example
> with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>
> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
> is lacking transparency as is.
>
> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>
> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because people
> saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to plugins
> that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>
> --
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> From: proph...@sticed.org
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>
> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
> applied incorrectly."
>
> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining about
> their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for simply
> saying servers were always rightfully banned.
> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
> hosting servers for this game.
>
> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>
> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers
> using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
> violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam
> User Account.
>
> We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all
> existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We
> also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts
> sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs.
> The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from
> using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam
> User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
> number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time
> of the GSLT ban.
>
> To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: after
> the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP addresses, we do
> not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we do not ban players for
> playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
> tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t
> encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.
>
> You can find the server guidelines here:
> 
> http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/
>
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

They're the same. There's 0 difference between a company and a 
government in terms of its interests.
This is why Yanis Varoufakis is both the finance minister of Greece and 
helped set up Valve's economy.


I don't agree with an error code being shown. That's not enough. I'd be 
fine with some unknown, never-to-be-told algorithm to do its magic, and 
then, before the ban, let someone get in there to take a screenshot.
Your proposal only tells the user which server triggered the ban, not 
the violation itself. And leaves me wondering as a third party if that 
ban was legit and I should take the risk and host for csgo.


On 26.02.2016 01:28, Don Park wrote:


I would agree then if an error code was shown with the reason (similar 
to the you were kicked for inactivity) that would be great.  Get to 
know which specific server originated from it.


In regards to plugin developers.  Thats irrelevant if that plugin is 
popular in my opinion.  Just because your plugin is commonly used 
doesnt mean the code itself is acceptable to valve's guidelines (with 
all due respect to the author).  Maybe a more conservative approach to 
coding a plugin is necessary, however further clarifications as to 
what exactly is prohibited would be appreciated.


Also, The relation to police or a government body is absurd.  Valve is 
a private company.  Private companies focus on maximizing profit while 
preserving the value of their assets as much as possible (in this case 
skins).  A government organization focuses on maximizing benefit.  The 
process behind it is fairly different from each other and thinking 
they are comparable in that manner violates the basic rules of 
economics.  Its how the world works.


Please refrain from comparing valve to a governing organization.

Back to the topic of this email list, we all know valve's 
interpretation of their guidelines is the accepted rules.  Therefore, 
would it be possible maybe to get a 'lay man's version of it made 
available?


On Feb 26, 2016 9:06 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" 
> wrote:


I think it would be "nice to let them know" what the violation is,
not what's causing it.

The problem I previously addressed was that I can't trust either
party with the current lack of transparency.

But in the way you're saying it, I interpret this as an allowance
to just put people in jail and upon the question "What did I do?",
give them an ebook with all codes of law.
- "Here, go figure it out for yourself"
This is what is actually currently happening.
Now with people being "in jail" and complaints rising I'm
wondering what the hell is going on. I don't know what the servers
looked like, what the violation was, and whether or not this
actually happened and the ban was justified. I just have this
guideline (that already let to a ton of misunderstandings in the
past) and have to play roulette on what might have happened. With
the unlisted option being "nothing".
This is not how I would want to host or support a game. And not
with my account on the line.
"Should I host for this game?" "Well after footing the monthly
extra bills and the other efforts, I might just suddenly get a ban
for no reason."
I know my answer. What is yours?

On 26.02.2016 00:56, Don Park wrote:


I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the
vanilla csgo server software. Therefore, requesting which
specific plugin within sourcemod is not allowed is outside of
valve's parameters.

It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats
causing your account to get banned. Its not Valve's job to hold
your hands and support third party addon's plugins.

On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek"
> wrote:

I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of
skin-menu for example with the ip in it, that would be enough
for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like
this, and while I also welcome the further measurements to be
taken upon a violation, raising the stakes will just also
raise my lack of trust in the system that is lacking
transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned?
Because people saying they not breaking any rules and still
get banned points to plugins that might not be seen as
breaking the guidelines.


To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

  

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Don Park]

I would agree then if an error code was shown with the reason (similar to
the you were kicked for inactivity) that would be great.  Get to know which
specific server originated from it.

In regards to plugin developers.  Thats irrelevant if that plugin is
popular in my opinion.  Just because your plugin is commonly used doesnt
mean the code itself is acceptable to valve's guidelines (with all due
respect to the author).  Maybe a more conservative approach to coding a
plugin is necessary, however further clarifications as to what exactly is
prohibited would be appreciated.

Also, The relation to police or a government body is absurd.  Valve is a
private company.  Private companies focus on maximizing profit while
preserving the value of their assets as much as possible (in this case
skins).  A government organization focuses on maximizing benefit.  The
process behind it is fairly different from each other and thinking they are
comparable in that manner violates the basic rules of economics.  Its how
the world works.

Please refrain from comparing valve to a governing organization.

Back to the topic of this email list, we all know valve's interpretation of
their guidelines is the accepted rules.  Therefore, would it be possible
maybe to get a 'lay man's version of it made available?
On Feb 26, 2016 9:06 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
proph...@sticed.org> wrote:

> I think it would be "nice to let them know" what the violation is, not
> what's causing it.
>
> The problem I previously addressed was that I can't trust either party
> with the current lack of transparency.
>
> But in the way you're saying it, I interpret this as an allowance to just
> put people in jail and upon the question "What did I do?", give them an
> ebook with all codes of law.
> - "Here, go figure it out for yourself"
> This is what is actually currently happening.
> Now with people being "in jail" and complaints rising I'm wondering what
> the hell is going on. I don't know what the servers looked like, what the
> violation was, and whether or not this actually happened and the ban was
> justified. I just have this guideline (that already let to a ton of
> misunderstandings in the past) and have to play roulette on what might have
> happened. With the unlisted option being "nothing".
> This is not how I would want to host or support a game. And not with my
> account on the line.
> "Should I host for this game?" "Well after footing the monthly extra bills
> and the other efforts, I might just suddenly get a ban for no reason."
> I know my answer. What is yours?
>
> On 26.02.2016 00:56, Don Park wrote:
>
> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla csgo
> server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>
> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing your
> account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and support
> third party addon's plugins.
> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>> behind it.
>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>
>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
>> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
>> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
>> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
>> is lacking transparency as is.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>>
>> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
>> people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
>> plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>>
>> --
>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> From: proph...@sticed.org
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>
>> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
>> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
>> applied incorrectly."
>>
>> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
>> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining about
>> their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for simply
>> saying servers were always rightfully banned.
>> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
>> hosting servers for this game.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>>
>> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers
>> using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
>> violation of the guidelines are 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

I think it would be "nice to let them know" what the violation is, not 
what's causing it.


The problem I previously addressed was that I can't trust either party 
with the current lack of transparency.


But in the way you're saying it, I interpret this as an allowance to 
just put people in jail and upon the question "What did I do?", give 
them an ebook with all codes of law.

- "Here, go figure it out for yourself"
This is what is actually currently happening.
Now with people being "in jail" and complaints rising I'm wondering what 
the hell is going on. I don't know what the servers looked like, what 
the violation was, and whether or not this actually happened and the ban 
was justified. I just have this guideline (that already let to a ton of 
misunderstandings in the past) and have to play roulette on what might 
have happened. With the unlisted option being "nothing".
This is not how I would want to host or support a game. And not with my 
account on the line.
"Should I host for this game?" "Well after footing the monthly extra 
bills and the other efforts, I might just suddenly get a ban for no reason."

I know my answer. What is yours?

On 26.02.2016 00:56, Don Park wrote:


I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla 
csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin 
within sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.


It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing 
your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands 
and support third party addon's plugins.


On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" 
> wrote:


I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this,
and while I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon
a violation, raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of
trust in the system that is lacking transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned?
Because people saying they not breaking any rules and still get
banned points to plugins that might not be seen as breaking the
guidelines.


To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

From: proph...@sticed.org 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also
receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token
gets banned.

"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining
about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a
GSLT ban was applied incorrectly."

Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's
complaining about their servers presumably being banned for
nothing, or "you" for simply saying servers were always
rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages
us from hosting servers for this game.

On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:

Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens
because servers using them were violating the guidelines. All
servers determined to be in violation of the guidelines are
tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.

We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account,
and all existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the
same phone number. We also mark this Steam User Account, and
all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs. The phone
number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts
from using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent
update, this Steam User Account and all existing Steam User
Accounts sharing the same phone number will also get an
in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time of the GSLT
ban.

To answer some frequently asked questions among server
operators: after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban
servers by IP addresses, we do not ban accounts based on
shared computers, and we do not ban players for playing on
servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT
bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
applied 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Niko]

A good solution would be to either let us know which server triggered 
the ban or why a server triggered a ban.
I have many servers under my account and so far i haven't been banned 
once, i follow the rules very strictly, however one of my clients got 
banned in the last wave and i personally checked his server to verify 
what caused the ban, i couldn't find anything wrong.
He couldn't either, so we just reinstalled the whole server and 
restarted from scratch. It's annoying and time consuming to do that, and 
while i understand that Valve has the rights and wants to protect his 
property (skins) I also think that we should be entitled to some more 
transparency in order to better comply with the rules.


BR,
Niko

On 2/26/2016 00:59, Kevin C wrote:
I agree, however knowing which server is causing it is a huge step in 
the process of finding out which plugins is at fault.


On 2/25/2016 6:56 PM, Don Park wrote:


I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla 
csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin 
within sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.


It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing 
your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands 
and support third party addon's plugins.


On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" 
> wrote:


I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu
for example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this,
and while I also welcome the further measurements to be taken
upon a violation, raising the stakes will just also raise my lack
of trust in the system that is lacking transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned?
Because people saying they not breaking any rules and still get
banned points to plugins that might not be seen as breaking the
guidelines.


To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

From: proph...@sticed.org 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also
receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token
gets banned.

"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining
about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where
a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly."

Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's
complaining about their servers presumably being banned for
nothing, or "you" for simply saying servers were always
rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages
us from hosting servers for this game.

On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:

Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens
because servers using them were violating the guidelines.
All servers determined to be in violation of the guidelines
are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.

We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account,
and all existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing
the same phone number. We also mark this Steam User Account,
and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs. The phone
number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts
from using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent
update, this Steam User Account and all existing Steam User
Accounts sharing the same phone number will also get an
in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time of the
GSLT ban.

To answer some frequently asked questions among server
operators: after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban
servers by IP addresses, we do not ban accounts based on
shared computers, and we do not ban players for playing on
servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT
bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban
was applied incorrectly.

You can find the server guidelines here:
http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/



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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Kevin C]

Not that I'm aware of.

On 2/25/2016 7:01 PM, Don Park wrote:


Agreed.  None of our servers are banned, so I am not too sure but 
can't you check from the API?


On Feb 26, 2016 8:59 AM, "Kevin C" > wrote:


I agree, however knowing which server is causing it is a huge step
in the process of finding out which plugins is at fault.

On 2/25/2016 6:56 PM, Don Park wrote:


I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the
vanilla csgo server software. Therefore, requesting which
specific plugin within sourcemod is not allowed is outside of
valve's parameters.

It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats
causing your account to get banned. Its not Valve's job to hold
your hands and support third party addon's plugins.

On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek"
> wrote:

I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of
skin-menu for example with the ip in it, that would be enough
for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like
this, and while I also welcome the further measurements to be
taken upon a violation, raising the stakes will just also
raise my lack of trust in the system that is lacking
transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned?
Because people saying they not breaking any rules and still
get banned points to plugins that might not be seen as
breaking the guidelines.


To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

From: proph...@sticed.org 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will
also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server
Login Token gets banned.

"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators
complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a
case yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly."

Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's
complaining about their servers presumably being banned for
nothing, or "you" for simply saying servers were always
rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and
discourages us from hosting servers for this game.

On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:

Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login
Tokens because servers using them were violating the
guidelines. All servers determined to be in violation of
the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s
Steam User Account.

We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User
Account, and all existing GSLTs of all Steam User
Accounts sharing the same phone number. We also mark
this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User
Accounts sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to
generate any more GSLTs. The phone number gets flagged
to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from using it to
generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this
Steam User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts
sharing the same phone number will also get an in-game
cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time of the GSLT ban.

To answer some frequently asked questions among server
operators: after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer
ban servers by IP addresses, we do not ban accounts
based on shared computers, and we do not ban players for
playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We have
been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining
about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case
yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.

You can find the server guidelines here:
http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/



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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Ejziponken -]

Yeah but alot of people said they were wrongfully banned including h3bus 
(creator of Deathmatch advanced plugin).So I still think there is some false 
positive here.
My biggest concern is that his plugin is the one being flagged. Its one of the 
most used plugins out there.
It gives currently owned weapon skins with the DM menu.

Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:56:03 +0900
From: st...@tbctactics.com
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a 
temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla csgo 
server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within sourcemod 
is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.  
It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing your 
account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and support 
third party addon's plugins.  
On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" 
 wrote:

  

  
  
I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
behind it.

If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.



Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and
while I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a
violation, raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust
in the system that is lacking transparency as is.



On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken -
  wrote:



  
  Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were
banned? Because people saying they not breaking any rules and
still get banned points to plugins that might not be seen as
breaking the guidelines.


  
To:
csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

From: proph...@sticed.org

Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100

Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will
also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server
Login Token gets banned.



"We


  have been monitoring tokens of servers operators
  complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered
  a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly."



Is there a way to get some transparency here?

The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's
complaining about their servers presumably being banned for
nothing, or "you" for simply saying servers were always
rightfully banned.

The lack of transparency simply confuses others and
discourages us from hosting servers for this game.



On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy
  Genkin wrote:



  
  

  Recently

  we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens
  because servers using them were violating the
  guidelines. All servers determined to be in
  violation of the guidelines are tracked via their
  GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.

  

  We

  ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User
  Account, and all existing GSLTs of all Steam User
  Accounts sharing the same phone number. We also
  mark this Steam User Account, and all existing
  Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number,
  as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs. The
  phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam
  User Accounts from using it to generate more
  GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam
  User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts
  sharing the same phone number will also get an
  in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time
  of the GSLT ban.

  

  To

  answer some frequently asked questions among
  server operators: after the introduction of GSLTs,
  we no longer ban servers by IP addresses, we do
  not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we
  do not ban players for playing on servers that
  violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
  tokens of servers operators complaining about
  their GSLT bans, and 

Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Don Park]

Agreed.  None of our servers are banned, so I am not too sure but can't you
check from the API?
On Feb 26, 2016 8:59 AM, "Kevin C"  wrote:

> I agree, however knowing which server is causing it is a huge step in the
> process of finding out which plugins is at fault.
>
> On 2/25/2016 6:56 PM, Don Park wrote:
>
> I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla csgo
> server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
> sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.
>
> It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing your
> account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and support
> third party addon's plugins.
> On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
> proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
>> behind it.
>> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
>> example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>>
>> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
>> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
>> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
>> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
>> is lacking transparency as is.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>>
>> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because
>> people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to
>> plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>>
>> --
>> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> From: proph...@sticed.org
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
>> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>>
>> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
>> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
>> applied incorrectly."
>>
>> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
>> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining about
>> their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for simply
>> saying servers were always rightfully banned.
>> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
>> hosting servers for this game.
>>
>> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>>
>> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers
>> using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
>> violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam
>> User Account.
>>
>> We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all
>> existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We
>> also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts
>> sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs.
>> The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from
>> using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam
>> User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
>> number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time
>> of the GSLT ban.
>>
>> To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: after
>> the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP addresses, we do
>> not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we do not ban players for
>> playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
>> tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t
>> encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.
>>
>> You can find the server guidelines here:
>> http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/
>>
>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Kevin C]

I agree, however knowing which server is causing it is a huge step in 
the process of finding out which plugins is at fault.


On 2/25/2016 6:56 PM, Don Park wrote:


I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla 
csgo server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin 
within sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.


It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing 
your account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands 
and support third party addon's plugins.


On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" 
> wrote:


I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the
process/detection behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for
example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.

Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this,
and while I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon
a violation, raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of
trust in the system that is lacking transparency as is.

On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned?
Because people saying they not breaking any rules and still get
banned points to plugins that might not be seen as breaking the
guidelines.


To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

From: proph...@sticed.org 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also
receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token
gets banned.

"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining
about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a
GSLT ban was applied incorrectly."

Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's
complaining about their servers presumably being banned for
nothing, or "you" for simply saying servers were always
rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages
us from hosting servers for this game.

On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:

Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens
because servers using them were violating the guidelines. All
servers determined to be in violation of the guidelines are
tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.

We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account,
and all existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the
same phone number. We also mark this Steam User Account, and
all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs. The phone
number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts
from using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent
update, this Steam User Account and all existing Steam User
Accounts sharing the same phone number will also get an
in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time of the GSLT
ban.

To answer some frequently asked questions among server
operators: after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban
servers by IP addresses, we do not ban accounts based on
shared computers, and we do not ban players for playing on
servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT
bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
applied incorrectly.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

[Felipe Teruo]

I did, they told they are looking what's wrong, but still didn't give us any 
answer.



Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:41:10 +0100
From: e...@evcz.tk
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

That's what I thought, seeing identical issues on machines hosted on maxihost, 
did you contacted them about it? when did the issue started?
Based on my findings the issue started like 22 hours and a half ago
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Felipe Teruo  wrote:



I am at MaxiHost, located in Sao Paulo




Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:04:09 +0100
From: e...@evcz.tk
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

I've seen some servers in sau paolo showing that behaviour.
What datacenter are you at?
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Felipe Teruo  wrote:



Hello, I can't connect to steamcmd to download the latest updates.Error: Failed 
with result code 3I could login to steamcmd, but when I tried the app_update, 
it stopped arround 40%, then I could never download or connect anymore. 


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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Don Park]

I would like to remind people that sourcemod is a mod to the vanilla csgo
server software.  Therefore, requesting which specific plugin within
sourcemod is not allowed is outside of valve's parameters.

It should be your job to investigate which plugin it is thats causing your
account to get banned.  Its not Valve's job to hold your hands and support
third party addon's plugins.
On Feb 26, 2016 8:47 AM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" <
proph...@sticed.org> wrote:

> I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection
> behind it.
> If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for example
> with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.
>
> Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested
> handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and while
> I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a violation,
> raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in the system that
> is lacking transparency as is.
>
> On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
>
> Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because people
> saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to plugins
> that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
>
> --
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> From: proph...@sticed.org
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a
> temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.
>
> "We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
> their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was
> applied incorrectly."
>
> Is there a way to get some transparency here?
> The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining about
> their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for simply
> saying servers were always rightfully banned.
> The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from
> hosting servers for this game.
>
> On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:
>
> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers
> using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
> violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam
> User Account.
>
> We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all
> existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We
> also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts
> sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs.
> The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from
> using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam
> User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
> number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time
> of the GSLT ban.
>
> To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: after
> the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP addresses, we do
> not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we do not ban players for
> playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
> tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t
> encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.
>
> You can find the server guidelines here:
> http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

I'd like to add that I don't give a damn about the process/detection 
behind it.
If I were to get a single screenshot of some sort of skin-menu for 
example with the ip in it, that would be enough for me.


Also, I'd like to further express, that while I requested 
handling/punishing those servers through an interface like this, and 
while I also welcome the further measurements to be taken upon a 
violation, raising the stakes will just also raise my lack of trust in 
the system that is lacking transparency as is.


On 26.02.2016 00:42, Ejziponken - wrote:
Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because 
people saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points 
to plugins that might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.



To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
From: proph...@sticed.org
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive 
a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.


"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about 
their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban 
was applied incorrectly."


Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining 
about their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for 
simply saying servers were always rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us 
from hosting servers for this game.


On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:

Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because
servers using them were violating the guidelines. All servers
determined to be in violation of the guidelines are tracked via
their GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.

We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and
all existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same
phone number. We also mark this Steam User Account, and all
existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number, as
ineligible to generate any more GSLTs. The phone number gets
flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from using it to
generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam User
Account and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same
phone number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT
violation at the time of the GSLT ban.

To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators:
after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP
addresses, we do not ban accounts based on shared computers, and
we do not ban players for playing on servers that violate the
guidelines. We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators
complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case
yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Kevin C]

In case you missed it the first several times it has been asked: People 
with several(read: more than 20) servers have no idea which server is 
getting flagged. I want to follow your guidelines, but without knowing 
which specific plugin among hundreds across dozens of servers I have no 
idea where to start. I have specifically asked which of my servers were 
banned on both ban waves, and was ignored.


On 2/25/2016 6:33 PM, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:


Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because 
servers using them were violating the guidelines. All servers 
determined to be in violation of the guidelines are tracked via their 
GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.


We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all 
existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone 
number. We also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam 
User Accounts sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate 
any more GSLTs. The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam 
User Accounts from using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most 
recent update, this Steam User Account and all existing Steam User 
Accounts sharing the same phone number will also get an in-game 
cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time of the GSLT ban.


To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: 
after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP 
addresses, we do not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we do 
not ban players for playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We 
have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about 
their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban 
was applied incorrectly.


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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Ejziponken -]

Maybe list some of the reasons for why servers were banned? Because people 
saying they not breaking any rules and still get banned points to plugins that 
might not be seen as breaking the guidelines.
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
From: proph...@sticed.org
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:37:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a 
temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.


  

  
  
"We

  have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
  their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT
  ban was applied incorrectly."



Is there a way to get some transparency here?

The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining
about their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you"
for simply saying servers were always rightfully banned.

The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us
from hosting servers for this game.



On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin
  wrote:



  
  
  
  

  Recently
  we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because
  servers using them were violating the guidelines. All
  servers determined to be in violation of the guidelines
  are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam User
  Account.
  
  We
  ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account,
  and all existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing
  the same phone number. We also mark this Steam User
  Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the
  same phone number, as ineligible to generate any more
  GSLTs. The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new
  Steam User Accounts from using it to generate more GSLTs.
  As of the most recent update, this Steam User Account and
  all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
  number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT
  violation at the time of the GSLT ban.
  
  To
  answer some frequently asked questions among server
  operators: after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer
  ban servers by IP addresses, we do not ban accounts based
  on shared computers, and we do not ban players for playing
  on servers that violate the guidelines. We have been
  monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about
  their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where
  a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.
  
  You
  can find the server guidelines here:
  http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/
   

  
  

  
  

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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek]

"We have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about 
their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was 
applied incorrectly."


Is there a way to get some transparency here?
The way I see it I can't believe either side. The one's complaining 
about their servers presumably being banned for nothing, or "you" for 
simply saying servers were always rightfully banned.
The lack of transparency simply confuses others and discourages us from 
hosting servers for this game.


On 26.02.2016 00:33, Vitaliy Genkin wrote:


Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because 
servers using them were violating the guidelines. All servers 
determined to be in violation of the guidelines are tracked via their 
GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.


We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all 
existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone 
number. We also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam 
User Accounts sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate 
any more GSLTs. The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam 
User Accounts from using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most 
recent update, this Steam User Account and all existing Steam User 
Accounts sharing the same phone number will also get an in-game 
cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time of the GSLT ban.


To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: 
after the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP 
addresses, we do not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we do 
not ban players for playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We 
have been monitoring tokens of servers operators complaining about 
their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban 
was applied incorrectly.


You can find the server guidelines here: 
http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/




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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Absurd Minds]

Thank you for clarifying.
On Feb 25, 2016 6:33 PM, "Vitaliy Genkin"  wrote:

> Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers
> using them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in
> violation of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam
> User Account.
>
> We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all
> existing GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We
> also mark this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts
> sharing the same phone number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs.
> The phone number gets flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from
> using it to generate more GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam
> User Account and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone
> number will also get an in-game cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time
> of the GSLT ban.
>
> To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: after
> the introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP addresses, we do
> not ban accounts based on shared computers, and we do not ban players for
> playing on servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring
> tokens of servers operators complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t
> encountered a case yet where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.
>
> You can find the server guidelines here:
> http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] - User accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

[Vitaliy Genkin]

Recently we have banned multiple Game Server Login Tokens because servers using 
them were violating the guidelines. All servers determined to be in violation 
of the guidelines are tracked via their GSLT to the owner’s Steam User Account.
We ban all of the existing GSLTs of this Steam User Account, and all existing 
GSLTs of all Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number. We also mark 
this Steam User Account, and all existing Steam User Accounts sharing the same 
phone number, as ineligible to generate any more GSLTs. The phone number gets 
flagged to prevent any new Steam User Accounts from using it to generate more 
GSLTs. As of the most recent update, this Steam User Account and all existing 
Steam User Accounts sharing the same phone number will also get an in-game 
cooldown for a GSLT violation at the time of the GSLT ban.
To answer some frequently asked questions among server operators: after the 
introduction of GSLTs, we no longer ban servers by IP addresses, we do not ban 
accounts based on shared computers, and we do not ban players for playing on 
servers that violate the guidelines. We have been monitoring tokens of servers 
operators complaining about their GSLT bans, and haven’t encountered a case yet 
where a GSLT ban was applied incorrectly.
You can find the server guidelines here: 
http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/server_guidelines/

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

[Marco Padovan]

That's what I thought, seeing identical issues on machines hosted on
maxihost, did you contacted them about it? when did the issue started?

Based on my findings the issue started like 22 hours and a half ago

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Felipe Teruo 
wrote:

> I am at MaxiHost, located in Sao Paulo
>
>
>
>
> --
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:04:09 +0100
> From: e...@evcz.tk
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd
>
>
> I've seen some servers in sau paolo showing that behaviour.
>
> What datacenter are you at?
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Felipe Teruo 
> wrote:
>
> Hello, I can't connect to steamcmd to download the latest updates.
>
> Error: Failed with result code 3
>
> I could login to steamcmd, but when I tried the app_update, it stopped
> arround 40%, then I could never download or connect anymore.
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

[Felipe Teruo]

I am at MaxiHost, located in Sao Paulo




Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:04:09 +0100
From: e...@evcz.tk
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

I've seen some servers in sau paolo showing that behaviour.
What datacenter are you at?
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Felipe Teruo  wrote:



Hello, I can't connect to steamcmd to download the latest updates.Error: Failed 
with result code 3I could login to steamcmd, but when I tried the app_update, 
it stopped arround 40%, then I could never download or connect anymore. 


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Re: [Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

[Marco Padovan]

I've seen some servers in sau paolo showing that behaviour.

What datacenter are you at?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Felipe Teruo 
wrote:

> Hello, I can't connect to steamcmd to download the latest updates.
>
> Error: Failed with result code 3
>
> I could login to steamcmd, but when I tried the app_update, it stopped
> arround 40%, then I could never download or connect anymore.
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[Csgo_servers] Can't connect to steamcmd

[Felipe Teruo]

Hello, I can't connect to steamcmd to download the latest updates.Error: Failed 
with result code 3I could login to steamcmd, but when I tried the app_update, 
it stopped arround 40%, then I could never download or connect anymore. 
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