Re: [Csgo_servers] AW: Daily digest for csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

2020-01-10 Thread Jan Miękina 
So supposedly Faceit has been told to restore player models on their servers 
under threat of GSLT bans. At this point I'm not sure what to think anymore and 
official response from you guys would be really welcome.

Best Regards,
Jan Miękina

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On Jan 4, 2020, 07:43, at 07:43, "Neuro Toxin - corayzon at yahoo.com.au (via 
csgo_servers list)"  wrote:
> Yep. 
>All inaccurate. Valve will unlikely respond as its a can of worms they
>already lost the battle on. GSLT bans were issued on Monday, Wednesday
>and Fridays. The last GSLT banwave was issued 2018-10-24.
>GSLT bans are no longer enforced. Any server admins with a token
>provider which have had token bans, they are being played. 
>On Friday, 3 January 2020, 04:15:00 pm AEDT, John Doe
> wrote:
>
>He is not working for Valve. I have no idea why he is writing as if he
>were (its really funny tho). This is just some random person and he is
>just guessing as far as I understand.
>Den fre 3 jan. 2020 kl 05:52 skrev Daniel Sensenbringer
>:
>
>
>Hi Miguel,
>
> 
>
>Thanks for your answer. But I am asking myself one question according
>to your answer. Who are you, that you are able to answer this question?
>Are you from Valve? Your email doesn’t look like: mig...@hotmail.dk
>
> 
>
>In case you are not from Valve: Why do you know that a server sided
>skinchanger, that swaps the equipped model to the standard model is
>allowed?
>
> 
>
>Would be awesome if someone from Valve could answer this question. We
>need to be sure.
>
> 
>
>Best Regards
>
>daniels
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Von: CS:GO Dedicated Server Mailing List
>[mailto:nob...@simplelists.com]
>Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Januar 2020 01:41
>An: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>Betreff: Daily digest for csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
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>Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020
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>SV: [Csgo_servers] Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Christopher
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>Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020
>08:43 UTC)
>Reply to list
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>
>I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character
>models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own
>server.
>
>Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers.
>
>"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to
>correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!"
>
>​It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official
>Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc.
>
>
>Have a good day!
>
>Best regards
>Miguel. 
>
>Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> på vegne af Christopher Szabo
>
>Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39
>Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>
>Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models
>
> 
>
>Hi
>
>I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server
>owners. Its says its not allowed to:
>
>"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their
>own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!"
>
>So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player
>models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them
>with Sourcemod plugin.
>
> I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is
>it in-fact allowed?
>
>/ Chris
>
>Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan
>2020 12:11 UTC)
>Reply to list
>
>I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins.
>
>
>Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem,
>but I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates
>new steam accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin.
>(Thats a part of the skin-changer plugin).
>
>It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your
>perspective thats it's not okay.
>
>But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden.
>And I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow
>the guidelines.
>
>
>Best regards
>Miguel.
>
>Fra: Christopher Szabo 
>Sendt: 2. januar 2020 12:26
>Til: Miguel Petersen 
>Emne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models
>
> 
>
>Also, I wasnt taking about a client skin changer, I was asking about
>giving players weapon skins/gloves that they dont currently own, on a
>comunity server via sourcemod plugins.
>
>Is that allowed now? Because its like this, Ive been running a CS
>community for over 15 years

Re: [Csgo_servers] AW: Daily digest for csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

2020-01-03 Thread Neuro Toxin - corayzon at yahoo.com.au (via csgo_servers list) 
 Yep. 
All inaccurate. Valve will unlikely respond as its a can of worms they already 
lost the battle on. GSLT bans were issued on Monday, Wednesday and Fridays. The 
last GSLT banwave was issued 2018-10-24.
GSLT bans are no longer enforced. Any server admins with a token provider which 
have had token bans, they are being played. 
On Friday, 3 January 2020, 04:15:00 pm AEDT, John Doe 
 wrote:  
 
 He is not working for Valve. I have no idea why he is writing as if he were 
(its really funny tho). This is just some random person and he is just guessing 
as far as I understand.
Den fre 3 jan. 2020 kl 05:52 skrev Daniel Sensenbringer 
:


Hi Miguel,

 

Thanks for your answer. But I am asking myself one question according to your 
answer. Who are you, that you are able to answer this question? Are you from 
Valve? Your email doesn’t look like: mig...@hotmail.dk

 

In case you are not from Valve: Why do you know that a server sided 
skinchanger, that swaps the equipped model to the standard model is allowed?

 

Would be awesome if someone from Valve could answer this question. We need to 
be sure.

 

Best Regards

daniels

 

 

Von: CS:GO Dedicated Server Mailing List [mailto:nob...@simplelists.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Januar 2020 01:41
An: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
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Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 08:43 UTC)
Reply to list

Hi Chris,


I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character models 
on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server.

Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers.

"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly 
access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" 

​It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official Competitive 
Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc.


Have a good day!

Best regards
Miguel.  

Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com  
på vegne af Christopher Szabo 
Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39
Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com 
Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models 

 

Hi

I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners. Its 
says its not allowed to:

"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own 
CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" 

So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player models 
that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them with Sourcemod 
plugin. 

 I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it 
in-fact allowed?

/ Chris

Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 12:11 
UTC)
Reply to list

I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins. 


Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, but I 
also know that when the token is banned, their system generates new steam 
accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. (Thats a part of the 
skin-changer plugin).

It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your perspective thats 
it's not okay.

But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. And I'm 
sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow the guidelines.


Best regards
Miguel.

Fra: Christopher Szabo 
Sendt: 2. januar 2020 12:26
Til: Miguel Petersen 
Emne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models 

 

Also, I wasnt taking about a client skin changer, I was asking about giving 
players weapon skins/gloves that they dont currently own, on a comunity server 
via sourcemod plugins.

Is that allowed now? Because its like this, Ive been running a CS community for 
over 15 years now. We are following the guidelines and always have. But we 
compete against other servers that dont follow the guidelines...

They offer their players cool  Valve skins the players dont own, and they never 
get token banned.

This means that we follow the rules and we lose players and they break the 
rules and gain players without consequences. This is not fair at all.

I dont think its fair having rules that you dont enforce because the good guys 
gets screwed. 

Re: [Csgo_servers] AW: Daily digest for csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

2020-01-02 Thread John Doe 
He is not working for Valve. I have no idea why he is writing as if he were
(its really funny tho). This is just some random person and he is just
guessing as far as I understand.

Den fre 3 jan. 2020 kl 05:52 skrev Daniel Sensenbringer <
headad...@warmupserver.net>:

> Hi Miguel,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your answer. But I am asking myself one question according to
> your answer. Who are you, that you are able to answer this question? Are
> you from Valve? Your email doesn’t look like: mig...@hotmail.dk
>
>
>
> In case you are not from Valve: Why do you know that a server sided
> skinchanger, that swaps the equipped model to the standard model is allowed?
>
>
>
> Would be awesome if someone from Valve could answer this question. We need
> to be sure.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> daniels
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* CS:GO Dedicated Server Mailing List [mailto:nob...@simplelists.com]
>
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 3. Januar 2020 01:41
> *An:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> *Betreff:* Daily digest for csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>
>
>
> *(Previous discussion continued)*
>
> Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940175> - 
> Miguel
> Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 08:43 UTC)*
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> Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models
> <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940641> - Miguel Petersen *(02 Jan 2020
> 12:11 UTC)*
>
> SV: [Csgo_servers] Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models
> <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940177> - Christopher Szabo *(02 Jan 2020
> 08:45 UTC)*
>
> Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940213> - 
> Miguel
> Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 09:12 UTC)*
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> Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940775> - 
> Miguel
> Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 12:55 UTC)*
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> Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12941449> - 
> Miguel
> Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 14:55 UTC)*
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>
> Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models
>  by Miguel
> Petersen  *(02 Jan 2020 08:43 UTC)*
> Reply to list
> 
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
> I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character
> models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server.
>
> Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers.
>
> "It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to
> correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!"
>
> ​It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official
> Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc.
>
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Best regards
> Miguel.
>
> Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com <
> csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo <
> sza...@hotmail.com>
> Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39
> Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com <
> csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners.
> Its says its not allowed to:
>
> "Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own
> CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!"
>
> So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player
> models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them
> with Sourcemod plugin.
>
>  I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it
> in-fact allowed?
>
> / Chris
> --
>
> Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models
>  by Miguel
> Petersen  *(02 Jan 2020 12:11 UTC)*
> Reply to list
> 
>
> I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins.
>
>
> Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, but
> I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates new steam
> accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. (Thats a part of
> the skin-changer plugin).
>
> It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your perspective
> thats it's not okay.
>
> But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. And
> I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow the
> guidelines.
>
>
> Best regards
> Miguel.
>
> Fra: Christopher Szabo 
> Sendt: 2. januar 2020 12:26
> Til: Miguel Petersen 
> Emne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models
>
>
>
> Also, I wasnt taking about a client skin changer, I was asking about
> giving players weapon skins/gloves that they dont currently own, on a
> comunity server via sourcemod plugins.
>
> Is that allowed now? Because its like this, Ive been running a CS
> community for over 15 years now. We are following the guidelines and always
> have. But we compete against other servers that dont follow the
> guidelines...
>
> They offer their players cool  Valve skins the players dont