[css-d] Centering the text of a legend with CSS

2010-06-18 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Hi all!
I'm sorry for using an extra span here:

http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/centering-text-of-legend-element-with.html

do you have a better solution, fixes, workarounds? please comment here  
or on the post. thanks!

:-)

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Re: [css-d] Centering the text of a legend with CSS

2010-06-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Gabrielle,

 I'm sorry for using an extra span here:
 
 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/centering-text-of-legend-element-
 with.html
 
 do you have a better solution, fixes, workarounds? please comment here
 or on the post. thanks!

This was my take on this issue:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/how_to_position_the_legend_element.asp


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[css-d] letter-spacing

2010-06-18 Thread BHomis
Hi.  letter-spacing seems to function in IE, but not in Safari, or  Google 
Chrome.  Is this normal?
bhomis
 
 
 p.general_text{
font-size:  .8em;
font-family: arial;
color:  #33;
letter-spacing:.5px;
line-height:  145%;
text-align:left;
}
 
P class=general_text text goes here.  /P
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Re: [css-d] letter-spacing

2010-06-18 Thread Ed Seedhouse
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:17 AM,  bho...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi.  letter-spacing seems to function in IE, but not in Safari, or  Google
 Chrome.  Is this normal?

 letter-spacing:.5px;

Since a pixel is, by definition, the smallest measurement possible on
any given screen, how would a browser render a space less than one
pixel?

That's what you seem to be calling for with the rule: letter-spacing:.5px;.

Assuming that s even valid CSS, different browsers would likely round
either up to 1 pixel, or down to zero pixels.  As far as I know,
either would be right.

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Re: [css-d] styling non-english fonts

2010-06-18 Thread Mark Richards
 From: Angela French
 Subject: [css-d] styling non-english fonts
 
 I am creating some foreign language pages.  Cambodian/Khmer 
 renders vastly different font sizes between browsers.  Other 
 than making style sheets for each browser to style all my 
 page elements, is there some other way?

I've found that different browsers choose fonts differently, causing the
appearance of the page to vary widely.  For example, my personal site
asked for Serif font-family and displayed Chinese text.  IE6 used a
blocky sans font, IE 7 and 8 used a serif font, Firefox 2 used a serif
font, and Firefox 3 used a mix of blocky sans and serif.

The solution for Firefox, in my case, was to apply a lang attribute to
the elements in question, thus instructing Firefox to choose Chinese
fonts for all the characters instead of trying to use Japanese fonts for
some and Chinese fonts for others.  Once I had the page looking ok in
first-class browsers (IE6 still broke) I left it at that, but you will
probably want to specify some fonts and font-sizes in addition to the
lang attribute.

Mark
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Re: [css-d] styling non-english fonts

2010-06-18 Thread Angela French
Well, I'm on my 7th out of 11 languages today, and only Khmer proved to be 
trouble so far.And yes I am adding the xml:lang attribute to the content 
div . And I specify UTF-8 in the meta tag.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Richards [mailto:mark.richa...@date.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:00 PM
To: Angela French; css-d
Subject: RE: [css-d] styling non-english fonts

 From: Angela French
 Subject: [css-d] styling non-english fonts
 
 I am creating some foreign language pages.  Cambodian/Khmer 
 renders vastly different font sizes between browsers.  Other 
 than making style sheets for each browser to style all my 
 page elements, is there some other way?

I've found that different browsers choose fonts differently, causing the
appearance of the page to vary widely.  For example, my personal site
asked for Serif font-family and displayed Chinese text.  IE6 used a
blocky sans font, IE 7 and 8 used a serif font, Firefox 2 used a serif
font, and Firefox 3 used a mix of blocky sans and serif.

The solution for Firefox, in my case, was to apply a lang attribute to
the elements in question, thus instructing Firefox to choose Chinese
fonts for all the characters instead of trying to use Japanese fonts for
some and Chinese fonts for others.  Once I had the page looking ok in
first-class browsers (IE6 still broke) I left it at that, but you will
probably want to specify some fonts and font-sizes in addition to the
lang attribute.

Mark
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Re: [css-d] letter-spacing

2010-06-18 Thread David Laakso
bho...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi.  letter-spacing seems to function in IE, but not in Safari, or  Google 
 Chrome.  Is this normal?
 bhomis
  
  
  p.general_text{
 font-size:  .8em;
 font-family: arial;
 color:  #33;
 letter-spacing:.5px;
 line-height:  145%;
 text-align:left;
 }
  
 P class=general_text text goes here.  /P
 _



Try:

html {
background : #fff;
color : #000;
font-size : 100%;
}/*to defeat IE em font-scaling bug*/
body {
font-size : 1em;
}
p.general_text {
font : 0.8em/1.4 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;
color : #333;
letter-spacing : -0.025em;
}



aside
Although this might be better, as it is not a good idea to set text 20% 
small than user default, and an even worse idea to then play at 
pretending you are a type-designer...


html {
font-size : 100%;
}
body {
font : 1em/1.4 'Helvtica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;
}
p.general_text {
color : #333;
}/*inherits user default font-size with no letter-spacing*/


Best,
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[css-d] IE6 padding

2010-06-18 Thread Ed Goodson
In IE6 I get padding around the black images:
http://tinyurl.com/285yetp

This is the padding I want to get rid of:
http://tinyurl.com/286y94m

It seems like the step1_content padding and margin are being ignored?

How can I fix this and get rid of the padding? Thanks
 
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Re: [css-d] IE6 padding

2010-06-18 Thread Jay Tanna
Without posting your outline CSS, basic html and/or a link to your site, you 
are not likely to get any help here.  People have to see what you have done to 
get this padding.  It could be the borders around the images or it could be 
your own design style and we can't provide solutions to hypothetical situations.

We haven't got a clue what step1_content padding and margins are so you are 
likely to be on your own here.

hth


--- On Fri, 18/6/10, Ed Goodson e...@copywritecolombia.com wrote:


 In IE6 I get padding around the black
 images:
 http://tinyurl.com/285yetp
 
 This is the padding I want to get rid of:
 http://tinyurl.com/286y94m
 
 It seems like the step1_content padding and margin are
 being ignored?
 
 How can I fix this and get rid of the padding? Thanks
  



  
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Re: [css-d] IE6 padding

2010-06-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
  In IE6 I get padding around the black
  images:
  http://tinyurl.com/285yetp
 
  This is the padding I want to get rid of:
  http://tinyurl.com/286y94m
 
  It seems like the step1_content padding and margin are
  being ignored?
 
  How can I fix this and get rid of the padding? Thanks

 Without posting your outline CSS, basic html and/or a link to your
 site, you are not likely to get any help here.  People have to see what
 you have done to get this padding.  It could be the borders around the
 images or it could be your own design style and we can't provide
 solutions to hypothetical situations.
 
 We haven't got a clue what step1_content padding and margins are so
 you are likely to be on your own here.


The OP posted two links


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Re: [css-d] IE6 padding

2010-06-18 Thread russ
 It seems like the step1_content padding and margin are being ignored?

 How can I fix this and get rid of the padding? Thanks

I'm not sure what the fix is, but I'm finding it hard to make sense of the 
code because there is styling everywhere: at the top of the page, embedded 
in the HTML, and also in the external CSS file. If it were me, I would 
consolidate it in one place so I could see it easier.

Russ


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Re: [css-d] styling non-english fonts

2010-06-18 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jun 19, 2010, at 4:00 AM, Mark Richards wrote:

 Cambodian/Khmer 
 renders vastly different font sizes between browsers.

That issue with Khmer came up in the past, although I can't seem to find it in 
the archives (bad search-fu !). One thing I know for sure is that khmer fonts 
have a very small aspect-ratio (x-height).

It is possible that [a] if you don't specify a font-family, browsers use a 
different one and [b] some browsers (IE ?) may do sone additional trickery to 
size the text upwards.

As you don't provide any url (hint: that is _always_ useful), I had a quick 
look at Wikipedia Khmer pages. At least on OS X, the font-size was consistent 
between WebKit and Gecko, and I didn't see any different code loaded for each 
browser.
Maybe you can have a look at Wikipedia with browsers that exhibit the 
differences on your side, and see if Wikipedia serves different stylesheets ?

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] styling non-english fonts

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Blake
Hi,

I would have thought the idea wold be to find out what fonts are  
installed in the language packs - install. Specify fots before  
choosing 'serif' e.g. arial helvetica, serif  but using the names of  
the fonts in the system.

How can you specify the language if it's a multi-lingual site? I have  
started playing around with Joomfish recently so I am very interested  
in all this stuff - especially because I live in Asia.

TY, CB




On 19/06/2010, at 3:02 AM, Angela French wrote:

 Well, I'm on my 7th out of 11 languages today, and only Khmer proved  
 to be trouble so far.And yes I am adding the xml:lang attribute  
 to the content div . And I specify UTF-8 in the meta tag.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Richards [mailto:mark.richa...@date.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:00 PM
 To: Angela French; css-d
 Subject: RE: [css-d] styling non-english fonts

 From: Angela French
 Subject: [css-d] styling non-english fonts

 I am creating some foreign language pages.  Cambodian/Khmer
 renders vastly different font sizes between browsers.  Other
 than making style sheets for each browser to style all my
 page elements, is there some other way?

 I've found that different browsers choose fonts differently, causing  
 the
 appearance of the page to vary widely.  For example, my personal site
 asked for Serif font-family and displayed Chinese text.  IE6 used a
 blocky sans font, IE 7 and 8 used a serif font, Firefox 2 used a serif
 font, and Firefox 3 used a mix of blocky sans and serif.

 The solution for Firefox, in my case, was to apply a lang attribute to
 the elements in question, thus instructing Firefox to choose Chinese
 fonts for all the characters instead of trying to use Japanese fonts  
 for
 some and Chinese fonts for others.  Once I had the page looking ok in
 first-class browsers (IE6 still broke) I left it at that, but you will
 probably want to specify some fonts and font-sizes in addition to the
 lang attribute.

 Mark
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[css-d] An image gallery with a definition list and CSS

2010-06-18 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Hi!
If I recall correctly, this is a smart technique proposed by Ingo Chao  
on his website (http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html). It actually adds  
more semantics to the styling of an image gallery.

http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/image-gallery-with-definition-list-and.html

I didn't test it in IE. Could you please write some comments?  
Screenshots are really appreciated.
The main problem here is when you try to make more dt and dd  
elements appear on the same line, for example:

dt  dd  dt dd
dt  dd  dt  dd

here you have to make some nasty space calculations and rely on one of  
the 9 rules governing float behavior (that saying: when there's no  
more space available, put the float on the next line). Actually,  
floats inside the dl element are _contained_ but NOT cleared.  
Suggestions? Improvements? Let me know! :-)

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