Re: [css-d] Help with multi-column drop-down menu
Actually this one looks more promising. As an aside I'm used to my mailing lists having the reply-to header On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Tim Wolf t...@liquidterrain.com wrote: I've built a prototype drop-down menu based on the Suckerfish model with some tweaks to use images in the top row of navs. Now I'm trying to make the first nav (Senators) that has quite a few list items into a two column drop-down. Here is the one I'm trying to work into two columns (only under Senators): http://uatext1.cga.ct.gov/sdo/navs-suckerfish2.html So as I understand it you want one unordered list to appear as a e b f c g d h Which is probably semantically correct it is a list. However I'm afraid I know of no way to do this. I'm meerly trying to rephrase your question to see if it can nudge others. Though I did find this which seems vaguely similar I'm not sure if it really is a good way of doing things. Regards, Wesley Acheson __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Help with multi-column drop-down menu
Forgot the link http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=3cid=27F87 btw the search I'm doing is list columns css What does everyone think does this work in the wild? Regards, Wesley On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@gmail.com wrote: Actually this one looks more promising. As an aside I'm used to my mailing lists having the reply-to header On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Tim Wolf t...@liquidterrain.com wrote: I've built a prototype drop-down menu based on the Suckerfish model with some tweaks to use images in the top row of navs. Now I'm trying to make the first nav (Senators) that has quite a few list items into a two column drop-down. Here is the one I'm trying to work into two columns (only under Senators): http://uatext1.cga.ct.gov/sdo/navs-suckerfish2.html So as I understand it you want one unordered list to appear as a e b f c g d h Which is probably semantically correct it is a list. However I'm afraid I know of no way to do this. I'm meerly trying to rephrase your question to see if it can nudge others. Though I did find this which seems vaguely similar I'm not sure if it really is a good way of doing things. Regards, Wesley Acheson __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?
If you click on the link below and then look at the source code, you will see a tremendous amount of duplicate antiquated html coding that I am sure could be coded much more efficiently using CSS. http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would streamline this page? Scott __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Lineberger, Scott sline...@coastalind.com wrote: http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would streamline this page? Not really, no. CSS cannot be used to reduce *content*, only to style it. Your issue is one of markup - how best to represent thousands of items in a form - and, thus, isn't really suitable for this list, IMO. - Bobby __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?
http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would streamline this page? Not really, no. CSS cannot be used to reduce *content*, only to style it. Your issue is one of markup - how best to represent thousands of items in a form - and, thus, isn't really suitable for this list, IMO. - Bobby I disagree. There are ways to style forms, so why not!? Streamlined makes me think that you're talking about speed so maybe adding images and things isn't such a good idea in that sense but would make it look better. Ermm, google it - there's lots out there. 'styling forms with CSS'... __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Off topic, web hosting help
Hi I know this list is about CSS, but I don't trust google.com when searching for web hosting. I need basic host for drupal, joomla just for my business. I have no experience in this field, I can do programming and design but hosting,domain registrationhave never done it. Will register domain with godaddy, can I register domain and find hosting later? I wouldn't like to make big mistake at the beginning. It is not my intention to spam the list, but I need help and advice Thanks Tom __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Off topic, web hosting help
I know exactly where you are coming from, I was there a couple of years ago. A couple of bits of good news. (1) it is not as hard as it looks to make the next steps, and (2) there are hosting companies out there who offer exactly what you need for very modest fees. I have had very good experiences with dreamhost.com, but there are lots of other outfits out there offering similar things. Peter -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Tomasz Kisielewski Sent: August-26-10 06:35 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] Off topic, web hosting help Hi I know this list is about CSS, but I don't trust google.com when searching for web hosting. I need basic host for drupal, joomla just for my business. I have no experience in this field, I can do programming and design but hosting,domain registrationhave never done it. Will register domain with godaddy, can I register domain and find hosting later? I wouldn't like to make big mistake at the beginning. It is not my intention to spam the list, but I need help and advice Thanks Tom __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?
Chris Blake wrote: I disagree. There are ways to style forms, so why not!? Streamlined makes me think that you're talking about speed so maybe adding images and things isn't such a good idea in that sense but would make it look better. Ermm, google it - there's lots out there. 'styling forms with CSS'... Yes, but how would that streamline the page, which is the ultimate aim ? As the original message correctly identifies, the page contains a tremendous amount of duplicate [] html coding, and I cannot see how CSS can help to reduce that. The problem appears more a methodological one than a stylistic one. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help
At 2:34 PM +0100 8/26/10, Tomasz Kisielewski wrote: It is not my intention to spam the list... And yet you did, and knowingly too. It seems to me really very simple: if you know a post is off topic for a list, then you already know it shouldn't be posted to the list. People joined this list to talk and learn about CSS, not web hosting. It makes no more sense to post such a request here than it does to start posting knitting advice, political chain letters, videogame walkthroughs, evidence in support of conspiracy theories, or surveys regarding people's favorite breakfast cereals. So, end of thread. Also, I fervently hope, end the of recent rash of off-topicness. Thank you. -- Eric A. Meyer (http://meyerweb.com/eric/), List Chaperone CSS is much too interesting and elegant to be not taken seriously. -- Martina Kosloff (http://mako4css.com/) __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly Floating images -understanding ...etc.)
Keith Purtell wrote: Hope this is what you wanted... http://www.keithpurtell.com/kthings/a_body_vance_divs.htm - Keith Purtell http://www.myspace.com/canyonsofthesky What is your uri? Best, ~d Keith, I am not sure what the question is but anyway some observations: You are setting the page with the belief that everyone is on a 1024 monitor. Hold a fixed width of 980 and center the page rail to rail, or set a min/max width so the page width adjusts to the users monitor. Either way, it would be a good idea to increase the width of the sidebar. You write about Jack Vance with grace, dignity, and simplicity: give the visual [the page proper] a similar look and feel and all will be well... Best, ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help
Yes I did, I am very sorry, but I explained why I did what I did. Where is the best place to find independent help and advice ? It makes no more sense to post such a request here than it does to start posting knitting advice, political chain letters, videogame walkthroughs, evidence in support of conspiracy theories, or surveys regarding people's favorite breakfast cereals. as you wrote... but don't you think that web hosting is closer to css?... CSS people have experience with hosting and I was given help and advice. Thanks for help and again sorry, but I had no choice. Regards Tom On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Eric A. Meyer e...@meyerweb.com wrote: At 2:34 PM +0100 8/26/10, Tomasz Kisielewski wrote: It is not my intention to spam the list... And yet you did, and knowingly too. It seems to me really very simple: if you know a post is off topic for a list, then you already know it shouldn't be posted to the list. People joined this list to talk and learn about CSS, not web hosting. It makes no more sense to post such a request here than it does to start posting knitting advice, political chain letters, videogame walkthroughs, evidence in support of conspiracy theories, or surveys regarding people's favorite breakfast cereals. So, end of thread. Also, I fervently hope, end the of recent rash of off-topicness. Thank you. -- Eric A. Meyer (http://meyerweb.com/eric/), List Chaperone CSS is much too interesting and elegant to be not taken seriously. -- Martina Kosloff (http://mako4css.com/) __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Tomasz Kisielewski tom.kisielew...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I did, I am very sorry, but I explained why I did what I did. Where is the best place to find independent help and advice ? If you look in the signature tacked on to every single email sent through the list, you'll find a plethora of links. If you follow the Off Topic[1] one you'll find a good group of links. First, there's Evolt's list(s), which can cover a wide range of subject. There's also Webdesign-L. And many more. Take a peek over at those, and ask your non-CSS questions there. We'll be glad to help. [1] - http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Off_Topic -- Jack Timmons @_Codeacula __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Help with multi-column drop-down menu
Wesley Acheson wrote: Forgot the link http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=3cid=27F87 btw the search I'm doing is list columns css What does everyone think does this work in the wild? Regards, Wesley Yes, it will work just fine-- assuming of course that you treat it with due respect and allow it to do so... :-) Best, ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help
Thanks, I have learnt the lesson, http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Off_Topic should have checked this before. I think that this is good point to stop this discussion it is a bit off-topic is not related to CSS by to my stupidity, incopetence, lack of common sense, call it whatever you want. I see your point, you don't want to try to understand why I did what I did. The safest is not to ask any question which is unrelated, but...you will have no answer, no help. I have seen couple more off-topic threads on this list recently, but I have to say my post made Eric really upset, is it because I didn't try to pretend asking off topic question. I marked it off topic to let people know and receive replays directly to me not to the list. Please contact me directly and stop this thread and my previous oneoff-topic as well. Thanks Tom On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Jack Timmons codeac...@codeacula.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Tomasz Kisielewski tom.kisielew...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I did, I am very sorry, but I explained why I did what I did. Where is the best place to find independent help and advice ? If you look in the signature tacked on to every single email sent through the list, you'll find a plethora of links. If you follow the Off Topic[1] one you'll find a good group of links. First, there's Evolt's list(s), which can cover a wide range of subject. There's also Webdesign-L. And many more. Take a peek over at those, and ask your non-CSS questions there. We'll be glad to help. [1] - http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Off_Topic -- Jack Timmons @_Codeacula __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Lineberger, Scott sline...@coastalind.com wrote: http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would streamline this page? Scott The fundamental problem with this page is the factor of 15. You have a list of possible products listed 15 times so that a customer could purchase multiple items. In my opinion javascript might be your best bet for cutting back on the shear volume of content in the page. There is another list that might be more helpful on that aspect of the problem. http://webdesign-L.com/ There could easily be other more appropriate lists. This just happens to be one I subscribe to. One approach to tackling the problem would be to have a single list of products and multiple lines of input. In a simplistic approach a radio button could be used as the selector. The form would open with the radio button selected for the first sales line. The customer could select a product from the master drop-down list, select quantity, then click a button indicating wish to buy it. This would add that item to a separate input field and move the radio button selection to the next item and restyle the drop-down list so that now it is positioned on the second line. etc. All of this would require some nice css styling (this list could help with that.) But to run the guts of the process you will need javascript or php or something similar. Basically to make that page accessible, in my opinion, you will need to divide the content size by 15. Regards, Claude http://www.galaxywebsitedesign.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help and OOCSS
On 26 Aug 10 12:39 PM, Tomasz Kisielewski wrote: ... seen couple more off-topic threads on this list recently, but I have to say my post made Eric really upset, is it because I didn't try to pretend asking ... It is not my intention to speak for Eric, but I doubt that he is upset at you. He is policing the established and declared boundaries, don't take it personally. Your original question would be welcome on the Web-Design list, here: http://webdesign-l.com/mailman/listinfo/list but I cannot vouch for the quality of answers you might receive. I do think it is worth a shot though, else I would not mention it. To keep it more topical, you can gain some increases in the speed of page display by avoiding reliance on the cascade also. You should look into Object-Oriented CSS (OOCSS) as advocated by Nicole Sullivan (aka Stubbornella). Reese __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Off topic, web hosting help
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS TOPIC ANYMORE its done, over , thanks for your help OBEY THE RULES it is off topic On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Claude Needham gxx...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Tomasz Kisielewski tom.kisielew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I know this list is about CSS, but I don't trust google.com when searching for web hosting. I need basic host for drupal, joomla just for my business. I have no experience in this field, I can do programming and design but hosting,domain registrationhave never done it. Will register domain with godaddy, can I register domain and find hosting later? I wouldn't like to make big mistake at the beginning. It is not my intention to spam the list, but I need help and advice Thanks Tom Hello Tom, I do my hosting with rackspace. They offer solutions way beyond the needs of the average website owner. So when a couple of good friends asked me the same question you are wondering about I created a page on my site to explain my approach to finding a good web hosting company. In addition I gave them my top recommendations. http://www.galaxywebsitedesign.com/blog/learn-how-to-choose-web-hosting.html The article is slightly tongue in cheek in places, but they found it helpful for them -- and they were in fact the target audience so I guess it worked. Regards, Claude Needham __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Off topic, web hosting help
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Tomasz Kisielewski tom.kisielew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I know this list is about CSS, but I don't trust google.com when searching for web hosting. I need basic host for drupal, joomla just for my business. I have no experience in this field, I can do programming and design but hosting,domain registrationhave never done it. Will register domain with godaddy, can I register domain and find hosting later? I wouldn't like to make big mistake at the beginning. It is not my intention to spam the list, but I need help and advice Thanks Tom Hello Tom, I do my hosting with rackspace. They offer solutions way beyond the needs of the average website owner. So when a couple of good friends asked me the same question you are wondering about I created a page on my site to explain my approach to finding a good web hosting company. In addition I gave them my top recommendations. http://www.galaxywebsitedesign.com/blog/learn-how-to-choose-web-hosting.html The article is slightly tongue in cheek in places, but they found it helpful for them -- and they were in fact the target audience so I guess it worked. Regards, Claude Needham __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] iPad
I am trying to debug a WordPress site so it will look/function better on the iPad. The site is www.madwomanintheforest.com. It was odd, because I found that the front page was messed up in different ways on side by side iPads. Has anyone run into this? Is there a way to emulate the iPad from my normal mac? Is there anyway to see the code the php is writing on an iPad? Any hints, tricks, magic spells, anyone has regarding the iPad? ---Adam www.adamstemple.com - My site for books, music, art and more. www.pokerwhip.com - If you're playing online poker without rakeback, you're leaving money on the table. www.bankrolltools.com - What level should you play at? Bankrolltools.comhttp://tools.comwill give you the answer. www.ascwpartnership.com - We do stuff. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] iPad
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Adam Stemple hatfiel...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to debug a WordPress site so it will look/function better on the iPad. The site is www.madwomanintheforest.com. It was odd, because I found that the front page was messed up in different ways on side by side iPads. Has anyone run into this? Is there a way to emulate the iPad from my normal mac? Is there anyway to see the code the php is writing on an iPad? Any hints, tricks, magic spells, anyone has regarding the iPad? ---Adam The utility that I am experimenting with at the moment is http://ipadpeek.com/ I have yet to verify that it is presenting an accurate view of an actual ipad. In fact, looking at your page, I don't see any obvious weirdness. Can't tell if this means you page has been fixed, or the silly ipadpeek is not actually showing the true rendering. I look forward to hearing any news of ipad emulators. By the way http://www.ipadatelier.com/design-for-ipad.html has several interesting links. I'm just now running them down. Regards, Claude Needham http://www.galaxywebsitedesign.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] iPad
Add a -webkit-text-size-adjust tag to avoid small text being scaled up to a minimum size: *, body { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } Rick Gordon -- On 8/26/10 at 12:36 PM -0500, Adam Stemple wrote in a message entitled [css-d] iPad: I am trying to debug a WordPress site so it will look/function better on the iPad. The site is www.madwomanintheforest.com. It was odd, because I found that the front page was messed up in different ways on side by side iPads. Has anyone run into this? Is there a way to emulate the iPad from my normal mac? Is there anyway to see the code the php is writing on an iPad? Any hints, tricks, magic spells, anyone has regarding the iPad? ---Adam -- ___ RICK GORDON EMERALD VALLEY GRAPHICS AND CONSULTING ___ WWW: http://www.shelterpub.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] iPad
Add a -webkit-text-size-adjust tag to avoid small text being scaled up to a minimum size: *, body { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } Isn't the same as: * { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } It is said that using the universal selector is bad regarding performance, would -webkit-text-size-adjust not be inherited if used like this: body { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | @thierrykoblentz __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] iPad
You're probably right. I have noticed that some results are different when * is not included, but haven't gotten clear on exactly what. -- On 8/26/10 at 11:44 AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote in a message entitled Re: [css-d] iPad: Add a -webkit-text-size-adjust tag to avoid small text being scaled up to a minimum size: *, body { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } Isn't the same as: * { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } It is said that using the universal selector is bad regarding performance, would -webkit-text-size-adjust not be inherited if used like this: body { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | @thierrykoblentz -- ___ RICK GORDON EMERALD VALLEY GRAPHICS AND CONSULTING ___ WWW: http://www.shelterpub.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] iPad
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Rick Gordon li...@rickgordon.com wrote: You're probably right. I have noticed that some results are different when * is not included, but haven't gotten clear on exactly what. -- I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. Was this just for some properties or in general? And would the * solve this issue? Regards, Claude __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] iPad
Yes, that was one of them. And I seem to recall that some head sizes were ultimately affected. -- On 8/26/10 at 12:14 PM -0700, Claude Needham wrote in a message entitled Re: [css-d] iPad: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Rick Gordon li...@rickgordon.com wrote: You're probably right. I have noticed that some results are different when * is not included, but haven't gotten clear on exactly what. -- I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. Was this just for some properties or in general? And would the * solve this issue? Regards, Claude -- ___ RICK GORDON EMERALD VALLEY GRAPHICS AND CONSULTING ___ WWW: http://www.shelterpub.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [+] Re: iPad
You're probably right. I have noticed that some results are different when * is not included, but haven't gotten clear on exactly what. -- I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. I don't think this has ever been an issue in webkit, but I may be wrong -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | @thierrykoblentz __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.
Whats people opinion on this? Do they really belong in the CSS specification. I think maybe CSS shouldn't change the Dom. Just trying to understand why they are there. Wes __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [+] :after and :before psedo elements.
Whats people opinion on this? Do they really belong in the CSS specification. I think maybe CSS shouldn't change the Dom. Just trying to understand why they are there. AFAIK, there is no change to the DOM tree -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | @thierrykoblentz __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.
I think maybe CSS shouldn't change the Dom. They're not really changing the DOM (at least not IMO). You can't add tags and structure to the HTML with CSS - you can only change the value of text nodes (and then, only by adding to them). Just trying to understand why they are there. So you can put presentational characters in your display. For example, perhaps you have a table full of financial data. And on one page, you want negative numbers to be displayed with a - sign, but in another page, you want the same numbers displayed in parentheses. Data hasn't changed - just the presentation. span class=negative200/span With css for one page .negative:before {content: '-'} And for the other page, .negative:before {content: '(';} .negative:after {content: ')';} ---Tim __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.
They're not really changing the DOM (at least not IMO). You can't add tags and structure to the HTML with CSS - you can only change the value of text nodes (and then, only by adding to them). AFAIK, this is not changed either. The added content is purely *presentational*. span class=negative200/span With css for one page .negative:before {content: '-'} And for the other page, .negative:before {content: '(';} .negative:after {content: ')';} I'm not sure this a good example as this added content is only served to a few users... -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | @thierrykoblentz __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.
On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Thierry Koblentz n...@tjkdesign.com wrote: span class=negative200/span With css for one page .negative:before {content: '-'} And for the other page, .negative:before {content: '(';} .negative:after {content: ')';} I'm not sure this a good example as this added content is only served to a few users... I'm further not sure if this is a good example because if you don't have either a minus symbol or parens in the markup your number is not negative except presentationally. - Tim (Please forgive any typos caused by huge fingers on a teeny phone keybard.) __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [+] Re: iPad
On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. I don't think this has ever been an issue in webkit, but I may be wrong In quirks mode, it is an issue, just as it is in Gecko, last I checked. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] iPad
On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Adam Stemple wrote: Is there a way to emulate the iPad from my normal mac? If you are running OS X 10.6, you can download Xcode, Apples Developers Tools [*]. Those include simulators for iPhone, iPhone4 and iPad. It's not the real thing, for layout testing it works quite well [*] http://developer.apple.com/resources/ under MacOS X free registration required note that it is a huge download - 2.45Gb Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [+] Re: iPad
I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. I don't think this has ever been an issue in webkit, but I may be wrong In quirks mode, it is an issue, just as it is in Gecko, last I checked. Thanks Philippe, I recall that now. With browsers adding px to unit-less values I think these were the two issues *common* to all browsers. In any case, this should not be a concern for the OP as he is using a valid DTD. -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | @thierrykoblentz __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts
I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD list. WD list? Cheryl __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts
I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD list. Or even list papa __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts
My question was what is the WD list. Cheryl --- On Thu, 8/26/10, John D xfs...@hotmail.com wrote: From: John D xfs...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts To: Cheryl Smith robix97...@yahoo.com, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 6:22 PM I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD list. Or even list papa __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts
http://webdesign-L.com On 8/26/2010 9:33 PM, Cheryl Smith wrote: My question was what is the WD list. Cheryl --- On Thu, 8/26/10, John Dxfs...@hotmail.com wrote: From: John Dxfs...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts To: Cheryl Smithrobix97...@yahoo.com, Felix Miatamrma...@earthlink.net Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 6:22 PM I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD list. Or even list papa __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly Floating images -understanding ...etc.)
I will correct these errors asap. Thank you for taking time to critique my efforts. Css-d is an outstanding community resource. - Keith Purtell http://www.myspace.com/canyonsofthesky __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts
On 2010/08/26 21:13 (GMT-0400) Cheryl Smith composed: I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD list. WD list? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%5Bwd%5D+listl=1 See also: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Off_Topic Places where it would be appropriate to discuss such things and ask questions about them:- -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly Floating images -understanding ...etc.)
Keith Purtell wrote: I will correct these errors asap. Thank you for taking time to critique my efforts. Css-d is an outstanding community resource. - Keith Purtell http://www.myspace.com/canyonsofthesky Coping with the World Wide Web is sometimes difficult. Hang around. Much fun and enjoyment, hereabout... Best, ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/