[CTRL] Ritalin becoming school yard hustlers' newest product
-Caveat Lector- Ritalin becoming school yard hustlers' newest product Copyright © 2000 Nando Media Copyright © 2000 Christian Science Monitor Service ALEXANDRA MARKS, Christian Science Monitor NEW YORK (October 30, 2000 10:11 p.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - In the bathroom of a suburban elementary school outside Peterborough, Ontario, a 13- year-old boy offers to sell a quick high to some 10- and 12-year olds. His drug of choice: Ritalin, the prescription drug widely used to treat hyperactivity in children. In a small town outside Athens, Ga., 282 Ritalin pills suddenly disappear from a medical cart kept in a locked closet of the middle school. Outside Chicago, two teens report being regularly harassed and pressured by classmates to hand over their daily dose of the drug. They've now changed schools. As use of the controversial stimulant skyrockets in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) - it has increased by as much as 700 percent since 1990 - so has its abuse. In public schools and private universities across North America, Ritalin is increasingly the drug of choice for thousands of young people, from 10- year-old grade-schoolers dabbling with a first illicit high to graduate students in need of an all-night push to finish a term paper. The extent of the abuse varies widely from community to community, but the growing recognition of the problem comes at the same time as a heated debate in the scientific community over whether a child's use of the drug works as a gateway to future substance abuse, or protects them from it. Also known as methylphenidate, Ritalin is in the Drug Enforcement Administration's (DEA's) Top 10 list of most often stolen prescription drugs. It's widely available on college campuses, as well as in high school cafeterias. Kids are popping, snorting, even dissolving and injecting Ritalin, putting it in the same drug class as cocaine. "Virtually every data source available confirms ... the widespread theft, diversion, and abuse of Ritalin, and drugs like it, within public schools throughout the country," says Rep. Henry Hyde (R) of Illinois. "It seems clear from the data that children are using these drugs illicitly, and that this use is increasing." The extent of the abuse varies widely. One national study found that only 3 percent of high schoolers reported illicit Ritalin use in the last year. Another found the number was as high as 7 percent. At the same time, a DEA study of Wisconsin, South Carolina, and Indiana found that about 30 to 50 percent of teens in drug-treatment centers said they had used methylphenidate to get high, although not as their primary drug of abuse. As a result of the conflicting data, Hyde has called on the Government Accounting Office to investigate the extent of the diversion and abuse. He's also calling for legislation that would require states to have guidelines for the handling of prescription drugs on school premises. Lock those medicine cabinets The DEA is currently putting together pamphlets that contain such guidelines, along with educational materials about the drug. "Our concern is that once that medication is given to children, it's actually taken by the individual that it's prescribed for," says Gretchen Feussner, the DEA's Ritalin expert. "And once it's in a school, it should be secured in a place other than in a drawer or a teacher's desk." In some schools, as many as 20 percent of the students take the medication regularly during the school day. A 1996 survey by the DEA found more methylphenidate is on hand in many of those schools, where it's completely unregulated, than in the strictly controlled local pharmacy. Most of those schools also don't have full-time nurses on hand to dispense the medication. That has helped make the drug more readily available to kids than some illegal substances. And it's a key reason experts are particularly worried about its abundance. Ritalin is interchangeable with amphetamine and methamphetamine, and all of them produce much the same effect as cocaine. "Cocaine is shorter acting, so it has more of a punch: People tend to prefer cocaine when they're sophisticated," says Dr. Peter Breggin, a leading critic of the use of Ritalin. "But before they get to that stage, they'll use Ritalin." The National Institutes of Mental Health (NIMH) estimates that as many as 6 million American children suffer from ADHD. That's between 3 and 5 percent. If untreated, NIMH says the disorder can lead to serious problems later in life. In the largest clinical study of its kind, researchers concluded that Ritalin can help 82 to 85 percent of the children who receive the drug. But other studies have raised questions about its long-term impact on substance abuse. One family's story In Newport Beach, Calif., Martha Fluor has first-hand experience with Ritalin abuse. Her teenage son, who'd been diagnosed with ADHD and on Ritalin since he was seven, suddenly started to lose
[CTRL] WT: Report: U.S. special forces have entered Afghanistan
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldtribune.com/tout-4.html Report: U.S. special forces have entered Afghanistan SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Monday, October 30, 2000 NICOSIA Saudi billionaire Osama Bin Laden, suspected of masterminding the suicide bombing on the USS Cole in Yemen, is bracing for a U.S. military attack. =Arab diplomatic sources said U.S. special forces have crossed =into Afghanistan and are preparing for an attack on Bin Laden's =hideout. Some of the sources said at least one suspected Bin =Laden base has been rocketed, Middle East Newsline reported. Egypt's official Middle East News Agency reported that five Bin Laden bases have been attacked by the United States. Afghan's ruling Taliban movement, which provides shelter to Bin Laden, has denied the attacks. "There has been no rocket attack in Kabul, Kandhar, Jalalabad or any other part of Afghanistan," Taliban spokesman Abdul Hayee Motameen told the Afghan Islamic Press agency. "Any report of such attack is a lie." Bin Laden is suspected of masterminding and financing the Oct. 12 attack on the USS Cole. FBI investigators are currently in Yemen gathering evidence on the bombing and questioning suspects. Earlier this year, Arab diplomatic sources reported that U.S. security personnel had recruited a mercenary force to track down Bin Laden. Pakistani Foreign Minister Abdul Sattar his government would not allow a U.S. attack from its territory. Pakistan is one of three countries that recognize the Taliban government. Monday, October 30, 2000 = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SPIR: Stealth secrets feared stolen
-Caveat Lector- Stealth secrets feared stolen U.S. is investigating Russian mathematician employed by Bothell software company Monday, October 30, 2000 By PAUL SHUKOVSKY SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER A Russian mathematician who was given access to an American supercomputer loaded with stealth warplane design software is under investigation for espionage. Federal agents suspect that Aleksey Yeremin, who logged on to the supercomputer from Moscow, took advantage of Lockheed Martin and military security lapses to steal stealth technology secrets. The 3 1/2-year investigation stretches from the heart of the old Soviet empire to Lockheed's secretive Skunk Works plant in Southern California to a quiet suburb north of Seattle. Yeremin, vice president of a software company based in Bothell that did work for Lockheed, was e-mailed part of Lockheed's modeling program for designing stealth planes. And, sources say, it would have been easy for him to steal the rest of it. The potential loss is staggering: the United States' global monopoly on radar invisibility. In spring 1997, the FBI and the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, or OSI, began the investigation, code-named Digital Demon. A short time later, Lockheed pulled the plug on its project with Yeremin: an ultra-high-speed, number-crunching computer program that was supposed to greatly accelerate stealth aircraft design work. Federal criminal-justice sources say Yeremin, 46, has connections to the Russian military and now-defunct KGB. It is unknown whether Yeremin got his hands on any classified information. But sources told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer that some of the unclassified information he did obtain should have been classified top-secret. A retired Air Force three-star general said he is concerned that the apparent leak could help the Russians build their own stealth warplanes. "I don't think what is at risk here is making these (U.S.) aircraft any more visible to radar," said George Muellner, who played a key role in developing the nation's stealth fleet. "But what is at risk is accelerating a country's ability to develop and build these sorts of aircraft -- to produce something that is a threat downstream," he said. "If they started building and selling these things to the Iraqis, that would be a concern." The joint FBI-Air Force probe has so far yielded no arrests, and no one has been publicly charged with a crime. Agents have seized the home computer of a Lockheed employee who worked closely with Yeremin. That man told the P-I that he now realizes he was deftly manipulated by Yeremin. "I am not 100 percent sure, but I am highly sure he is a spy," said the 38-year-old computer expert, who no longer works for Lockheed. He asked that he not be identified for fear of jeopardizing his current job. He said he went beyond giving Yeremin portions of the MM3D simulation software -- used to model highly complex interactions between stealth aircraft and radar -- that the Russian needed to do his job. He said he also provided information that Yeremin could have used to determine American stealth capabilities. "I have to admit, I am very gullible, very naive, very trusting," he said. "He asked very probing questions, but I pushed my concerns away. "Now I can look back and see how he gathered information from me. He used textbook ways to win over someone; to recruit them as an operative or agent. He would earn my trust by saying he was not in any way . . . loyal to the country he was from, but wanted to come here." The computer expert is befuddled by how Lockheed and the Air Force could allow a Russian with KGB ties access to such a sensitive program. Lockheed refused to answer questions about whether security was compromised. The Air Force would not explain how it conducts security oversight of the defense contractor. Officials at Skunk Works, in Palmdale, Calif., where the U-2 spy plane, the bat-winged F-117 and the F-22 were designed, first became aware in 1997 "that an employee . . . was not reporting contacts with foreign nationals as required by governing security regulations," Lockheed spokesman Sam Grizzle said in a prepared statement. The officials reported the violations to "appropriate U.S. government agencies and followed their instructions in addressing the situation. The employee in question no longer works for Lockheed Martin," Grizzle said. The FBI and the Air Force OSI declined to comment on the case, and federal prosecutors did not return a call. "What I can tell you is it is an ongoing investigation," said Maj. Mike Richmond, an OSI spokesman at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. There are strong parallels to the Wen Ho Lee case, which also raised questions about digital transmission of technology to foreign nationals, and the way in which the federal government classifies its secrets. The government feared that Lee, a scientist at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, had
[CTRL] OT!: RUE: Zogby: Gore leads in Florida, Pennsylvania and Illinois
-Caveat Lector- [FLORIDA!?!?!? --MS] These are the complete state-by-state results for Monday: Bush Gore NaderElectoral Votes Florida40 51 425 Illinois 41 47 422 Michigan 44 45 418 Missouri 46 45 411 Ohio 48 43 321 Pennsylvania 43 46 323 Tennessee 49 45 211 Washington 44 45 611 Wisconsin 41 49 411 --- Monday October 30 6:47 PM ET Bush Leads in Reuters Poll, But Gore Rises in Key States By Alan Elsner, Political Correspondent WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican George W. Bush kept his three-point lead over Democrat Al Gore in Monday's Reuters/MSNBC national daily tracking poll, but separate surveys of nine key battleground states showed Gore making inroads. The state polls showed Gore widening his lead in Florida, overtaking Bush in Pennsylvania and closing the gap in his home state of Tennessee. The national survey of 1,213 likely voters in the Nov. 7 election, conducted Friday to Monday by pollster John Zogby, found the Texas governor with 45 percent and the vice president with 42 percent, unchanged from Sunday's results. Eight days remain until the Nov. 7 election. Green Party nominee Ralph Nader polled 5 percent; Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan stayed at 1 percent; Libertarian Harry Browne had 1 percent, and the rest remained undecided. The race remained well within the statistical margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points. A candidate would have to be more than six points in the lead to be outside that zone of uncertainty -- something neither man has achieved since the poll began on Sept. 29. In the equally tight race for the House of Representatives, voters preferred the Republicans by one point. The Democrats need a net gain of seven seats to regain control from the Republicans after six years in the minority. In a race this close, national polls cannot predict a winner because the election is likely to be decided in key swing states. Reuters and MSNBC are conducting daily tracking polls in nine such battleground states, polling around 600 likely voters in each over three days. These state samples each have a margin of error of plus or minus four percentage points. The results showed Gore had expanded his lead in the key state of Florida to 11 percentage points, outside the margin of error. Many analysts believe that is a must-win state for Bush. Gore also had an eight-point lead in Wisconsin and a six-point lead in Illinois. He was ahead by a single point in Washington state and Michigan and took a three-point lead in Pennsylvania, reversing a Bush lead of three points the previous day. Bush's lead in Gore's home state of Tennessee narrowed to four points from seven. He led by five points in Ohio, and by a single point in Missouri. In total, 153 votes in the Electoral College are up for grabs in those nine states. At the moment, Gore would win 110 and Bush would take 43 of those votes. These are the complete state-by-state results for Monday: Bush Gore NaderElectoral Votes Florida40 51 425 Illinois 41 47 422 Michigan 44 45 418 Missouri 46 45 411 Ohio 48 43 321 Pennsylvania 43 46 323 Tennessee 49 45 211 Washington 44 45 611 Wisconsin 41 49 411 A total of 270 electoral votes are needed to be elected president. Most analysts believe both candidates have definitely secured about 200, leaving some 138 to be fought over. The state polls also measured five tough Senate races. It found Republican Rick Lazio leading first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in New York, 48-43 percent. In Missouri, the late Gov. Mel Carnahan, who died in a plane crash on Oct. 16 but whose name still appears on the ballot, is ahead of Republican incumbent Sen. John Ashcroft, 49-43 percent. His widow said on Monday she would serve in his place if he were elected. In Florida, Democrat Bill Nelson was 11 points ahead of Republican Bill McCollum and seemed poised to capture a Republican-held seat. In Michigan, Republican incumbent Spence Abraham trailed Democratic challenger Debbie Stabenow by two points. In Washington, Republican incumbent Slade Gorton held a four-point lead over Democrat Maria Cantwell. In the national poll, 83 percent said they were unlikely to change their minds before Election Day. Forty-one percent have ruled out voting for Bush and 43 percent for Gore. Men backed Bush, 50-37 percent; women preferred Gore
[CTRL] WT: Top Hill Republicans reject Albright offer
-Caveat Lector- October 31, 2000 Top Hill Republicans reject Albright offer By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES The House speaker and Senate majority leader yesterday rejected an offer from Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright for limited access to classified government documents concerning a secret arms deal between Vice President Al Gore and his Russian counterpart. Mrs. Albright offered to let congressional leaders view but not copy some of the documents as part of a congressional investigation into a 1995 pact between Mr. Gore and Viktor Chernomyrdin, the Russian prime minister. "We categorically reject your proposal to allow solely the four leaders of the House and Senate to read, but not retain, a small fraction of the requested documents," Speaker J. Dennis Hastert of Illinois and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott of Mississippi said in a letter sent yesterday. Without the documents, the Republican leaders said, Congress cannot properly investigate the matter. "The elected representatives of the American people are certainly entitled to the requested documents in order to assess the extent of damage inflicted on America's credibility and security interests by the vice president's ill-conceived and counterproductive foray into the world of secret diplomacy. "Madame Secretary, administration stonewalling and obstructionism of legitimate requests for relevant documents must stop," they wrote. A group of 10 senators, including senior members and leaders, had imposed a deadline of noon yesterday for the documents, threatening to subpoena them if they were not produced. A spokesman for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said yesterday that senators were still discussing whether to issue subpoenas. "This is totally unacceptable," Marc Thiessen, the spokesman, said of Mrs. Albright's latest offer. The secret deal between Mr. Gore and Mr. Chernomyrdin was intended to halt Russian conventional arms sales to Iran and in exchange, the United State agreed not to impose penalties under U.S. nonproliferation laws. Lawmakers are also investigating a second document, a 1995 letter from Mr. Chernomyrdin to Mr. Gore that outlines Russia's nuclear transfers to Iran and calls on the vice president to keep the arrangement secret from Congress. The documents were first disclosed by The Washington Times and the New York Times. At closed House and Senate hearings last week, State Department officials refused to provide the documents or discuss their contents, angering members and prompting threats to subpoena the material. The Clinton administration is refusing to provide the documents and has dismissed lawmakers' requests for copies of the documents and detailed explanations of their contents as election-year politics. House and Senate members have said the secret dealings with Russia appear to violate U.S. laws, including legislation on conventional arms sales to Iran, nuclear transfers to Iran and laws governing the submission of agreements to Congress. "We have offered to provide the leadership of the Senate with access to the key documents at their convenience, and we'll see how that materializes," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher told reporters. Mr. Boucher said because the matters involve sensitive diplomacy, the department is insisting on being "exceedingly careful" about releasing the information to Congress. He said publicizing the documents could undermine U.S. efforts to curb the spread of nuclear weapons. "We have an obligation to sustain a policy that has improved the national security of the United States over the last six years by limiting the number and quality of weapons that are gone to Iran," Mr. Boucher said. "We are trying to meet the congressional requests in a manner that doesn't simultaneously destroy our policy, which would not be in our national interest." Mr. Hastert and Mr. Lott said in their letter that "it is grossly inaccurate and misleading to assert, as your letter does, that 'As a result [of the secret agreements], the security of U.S. forces and those of our allies in the region has been substantially enhanced.' " "In fact the record of the past eight years demonstrates a dramatic increase in the threat posed to U.S. military forces and interests, and those of our friends and allies in the Middle East, as a result of Iran's burgeoning nuclear, missile, and conventional weapons capabilities capabilities enhanced primarily by Russian arms sales made in spirit of the Gore-Chernomyrdin agreements." The leaders requested that the documents be furnished to the House and Senate oversight committees "immediately." Portions of the 1995 Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement, called an "aide memoire," were published by The Washington Times. A second classified document, a letter from Mrs. Albright to the Russian foreign minister sent in January, also was
[CTRL] DRUDGE: WORLD EXCLUSIVE
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X MON OCT 30, 2000 22:01:39 ET X TOP SECRETS REVEALED: MASSIVE DOCUMENT LEAK SHOWS 'CHINA THREAT'; NEW BOOK SAID DANGEROUS TO SECURITY **World Exclusive** The nation's intelligence community is bracing for the release of a new bombshell book that discloses and documents specific Chinese threats against America, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. WASHINGTON TIMES reporter and BestSelling author Bill Gertz is preparing to unleash top classified reports that detail Communist China's vast efforts to undermine and destroy the United States. Secret FBI, CIA and NSA reports are presented publicly for the first time in CHINA THREAT -- a development that could land Gertz in legal hotwater, according to sources. Gertz's publisher REGNERY legally vetted the book, and several super-secret CIA reports were withheld at the request of the agency, but the leak is so large in scope, sources close to Gertz fear he could ignite the first investigation after new legislation criminalizing leaks of all "properly classified" government information is signed into law. ["President Clinton may be inclined to sign the law after he sees the documents published in THREAT.] "This puts Gertz in a new league," says a government source. "He's about to become Target Number One of the Spy World." In CHINA THREAT, Gertz warns fellow Americans: *How the FBI pursued six Chinese intelligence agents and never found a senior Chinese mole inside the U.S. government code-named "Ma" who had access to top secret intelligence. *"The Hug": How spy suspect Wen Ho Lee was embraced by China's top nuclear weapons scientist during a visit to the United States. The nuclear scientist, Hu Side, was overheard by an FBI informant at the time as saying Wen Ho Lee provided great assistance to China's nuclear weapons program. *How a classified Chinese government document, known as Document 65, reveals that China is willing to attack the United States with nuclear weapons if U.S. forces intervene to defend Taiwan in a regional conflict. Gertz unleashes a Chinese spying manual, translated into English, revealing a massive weapons technology collection effort involving the gathering of data and covert espionage. The timing of the book's release -- just days before the election -- has raised eyebrows in official Washington. Gertz reported in recent days: If Texas Gov. George W. Bush is elected president, Republican national security officials are planning a major house-cleaning for the CIA's China analysis division. The Clinton-Gore administration has favored a dangerous "benign view of China," claims Gertz. In his new book, Gertz publishes a secret White House report by NSC staff aide Gary Samore offering missile technology to China if it agrees to join the Missile Technology Control Regime limiting missile exports. [The book CHINA THREAT was ranked #11,705 on AMAZON.COM's sales list late Monday. Gertz's first book BETRAYAL was AMAZON's top-seller for the month of May 1999.] Impacting. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYT: Ship Attack Suspects Seemed Out of Place
-Caveat Lector- Ship Attack Suspects Seemed Out of Place By JOHN F. BURNS ADEN, Yemen, Oct. 30 Neighbors of the two Arab strangers who came quietly in June to the cinder- block apartment at 9, Jabal al Sakhra, high above Aden's harbor, now say there were quite a few things that made them stand out, even among the disparate group of people who have settled in the cascade of ramshackle homes that tumbles chaotically down the hillside. There were the men's thick accents, for one, as well as the Islamic-style beard of the man who signed his name on a 12-month lease as Abdullah Ahmed Khaled al-Musawah, a thickset man of about 30 with heavy spectacles, and the neatly trimmed goatee of his still more taciturn companion, a slightly built, darker-skinned man described as being between 25 and 28. Beyond that, the neighbors say, there was the men's seeming obsession with privacy, the frugality of the food they bought in the local market and their curious comings and goings at the dead of night. Then there were the contradictions. Neighbors said the men described themselves as fish merchants but recalled that nobody working in the fish market in the port had ever seen the two there. In addition, there was the apparent clash between the men's seeming Islamic convictions investigators found a well-thumbed copy of the Koran in the apartment and the fact that they were never seen going to prayers in the new, whitewashed mosque that is the pride of the neighborhood, only 100 paces further up the hill. Still, according to those living around the two-story apartment with a panoramic view of Aden's harbor, none of that was so incongruous that anybody imagined that the men might be using their rented, $50-a-month apartment to plan the suicide bombing attack on an American warship. Only after the men disappeared suddenly, before dawn on Oct. 12 the day when two suicide bombers rammed the destroyer Cole in the harbor, killing 17 American sailors, wounding 39 others and almost sinking the guided missile warship did people begin to think that they might have paid closer attention to the two strangers. Now, with eyewitnesses' descriptions of the two men who boarded the boat that rammed the Cole exactly matching the appearance, accents and clothing of the two men who lived in the apartment, neighbors are convinced that the apartment dwellers and the suicide bombers were the same people. According to Saleh Shayef, owner of the house immediately overlooking No. 9, the strangers were hardly ever glimpsed in daylight and limited themselves when addressed by others to "marhaba" and "maa assalama," meaning hello and goodbye in the Arabic used in Yemen. But he said they were like many others living in the Jabal al Sakhra, or Rock Hill, district: migrants from far away in Yemen's north, non- Yemeni Arabs trading in fish and arms and other contraband and scores of other ne'er-do-wells with compelling reasons for avoiding engagements with strangers. "What would I gain by asking them what they were doing and why they were here?" said Mr. Shayef, a father of six who lost his government job in the turmoil of civil war in 1994. "They would have told me to mind my own business, and they would have been right. Anyway, everybody keeps to himself around here. We go to bed early, after the evening prayers, so there weren't many chances to talk to them. We'd hear them come home at 11 p.m. or later, and if they went out at all they'd be gone by dawn." Eighteen days after the Cole attack, a visit to the neighborhood on Rock Hill provided important new pieces to the scant, scattered jigsaw puzzle of information that the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Yemeni investigators, citing a need not to "chill leads" in the case with premature disclosures, have been willing to divulge. Accompanied by an Arabic-speaking companion and liberated briefly by a lapse in the strict limits the Yemeni security police have imposed on American journalists, the visit also afforded this reporter, for the first time, telling glimpses of what may have been the personal and religious journey the bombers took to their deadly encounter with the Cole. The visit, from midafternoon on Sunday until nightfall, offered clues to some of the factors weighing on the bombers' minds as they waited out the weeks and months before the attack. The apartment on Rock Hill seems perfectly fashioned, in hindsight, as a hideout for what they had in mind. About a third of the way up a 1,800- foot-high volcanic mountain, Jebel Shamsan, that dominates Aden and provides shelter for the harbor, the sparse, two-room apartment has a spectacular, unimpeded view of the harbor. Barely a mile away, the men could see the floating refueling dock, known as a Dolphin, that had been used more two dozen times since April 1999, when United States warships, for the first time in the decades since Yemen fell into chaos and civil war, began using Aden for brief refueling visits.
[CTRL] TWA800: ADA FAQ - Part II
-Caveat Lector- Reply to: http://deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=685111440fmt=text == The Alt.Disasters.Aviation FAQ **DRAFT VERSION 2** 2.1.5) What about the surface vessels on the RADAR tapes? Contributed by Dr. George O. Bizzigotti The Flight 800 Independent Researchers Organization (FIRO) argues that there were over 30 ships steaming at high speed in the area of the TWA 800 crash. I did a little bit of work this past weekend, and provide here a few questions concerning that assertion; it will be interesting to see if FIRO addresses these questions at today's news conference. FIRO have posted a graphic: http://flight800.org/shp_ln.gif that shows the purported tracks of 35 surface vessels and aircraft; there's an inset showing another 4 tracks, for a total of 39, all identified as a result of radar data. FIRO has simply assigned certain tracks as "surface vessels," without explaining some interesting aspects of radar. It appears to be well established (see, for example, "Communications Standard Dictionary, 2nd ed.," M. Weik, Van Nostrand Reinhold Co., New York, 1989) that one can readily calculate a "radio horizon," the distance beyond which radar cannot "see." In these calculations, one uses an effective earth radius, which is defined as the radius of a hypothetical earth for which the distance to the radio horizon, assuming rectilinear propagation, is the same as that for the actual Earth with an assumed uniform vertical gradient of atmospheric refractive index. For the standard atmosphere, the effective Earth radius is 1.33 times that of the actual Earth radius, or 5269.67 statute miles (4/3 x 3,952 miles). One can then calculate the distance to the radio horizon using the formula: (distance to radio horizon) squared = (effective earth radius) squared + (effective earth radius + antenna elevation) squared In the case of the ISP data, the antenna elevation is the altitude of Long Island Mac Arthur Airport (ISP), ca. 100 ft MSL, plus the height of the antenna, approximately 30 ft AGL. Setting the total antenna height of 130 feet gives the radar horizon of the antenna, 14.0 nautical miles (nm). Using a similar equation, one can calculate the radar horizon from the top of a ship's mast. adding the two radar horizon values together gives the maximum distance at which the ISP radar can possibly reach the ship. Let's begin with the largest warships in the world; the US Navy's Nimitz class aircraft carriers have a published keel to mast height of 244 feet, approximately 210 feet of which is above the waterline. Thus, the radio horizon for a carrier is 17.8 nm, and it can be seen by a 110 foot high radar from no more than 31.8 nm away. Any further, and the radio waves cannot reach the ship. By my count, 21 of the objects identified as surface vessels (and one aircraft) on http://flight800.org/shp_ln.gif are further than 31.8 nm from ISP, the longest range at which ISP ought to be able to "see" even an aircraft carrier. Using readily available photographs, one can estimate that the Navy's Aegis cruisers are approximately 160 feet tall above the waterline. Thus, they have a radio horizon of 15.6 nm, and can be seen by 130 foot high radar from no more than 29.6 nm away. Similarly, one can estimate that the Navy's Arleigh Burke class destroyers and Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates are approximately 140 feet tall above the waterline. These have a radio horizon of 15.6 nm, and can be seen by 130 foot high radar from no more than 28.6 nm away. Three of the ships identified on http://flight800.org/shp_ln.gif are between 29.6 and 31.8 nm from ISP; to be seen on radar, they could only be Nimitz class carriers. Two of the ships identified on http://flight800.org/shp_ln.gif are between 28.6 and 29.6 nm from ISP; to be seen on radar, they could only be Aegis cruisers or Nimitz class carriers. This leaves 9 of the surface vessel radar tracks that could possibly be any Naval ship as big as or larger than a frigate. One should also note that these are the theoretical maximum ranges for detection. Three major effects will decrease the "real" radio horizons: - There are 20 foot sand dunes on Fire Island, which is between 9.5 and 11 nm from ISP in the direction covered by http://flight800.org/shp_ln.gif. The radar's radio horizon is 14 miles, meaning that in some directions the radar waves could be blocked by the dunes. This effectively reduces the antenna height by up to 20 feet, and could reduce the maximum detections distances to 30.7 nm, 28.5 nm, and 27.5 nm. - Structures can block radar propagation. I've checked maps and seen the area from the air; there is a residential neighborhood along Lincoln, Coates, and Grundy Avenues to the southeast of ISP, so there are plenty of
[CTRL] Fwd: US Citizens in Palestine Have Their Say
A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAIVETE AND SINCERITY MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 10/30: Today in Ramallah on the West Bank in what certainly has to be called Occupied and Besieged Palestine, a group of about 100 American citizens, most Arab Americans, gathered to hold a kind of peoples's press conference. Though some American reporters were present, it's not likely this is going to be widely reported, and the people involved are certainly not media professionals nor politically sophisticated. The following information was released at the press conference, including a Statement from a 16-year old American from Toledo, Ohio, now living in Tulkarem, Palestine, who was prevented from attending by the Israeli occupation forces. There's a lot of naivete here...including that the young American/Palestine doesn't realize that the "Seeds of Peace" organization was in fact specifically established by Zionist organizations and the Israeli/Jewish lobby precisely to promote the Oslo peace formula that the Israelis and Americans have been working so hard to force Arafat to sign. But even so there is also a lot of sincerity and heartfelt honesty here, and the following should be read and considered in that context: U.S. CITIZENS IN PALESTINE VOICE THEIR CONCERNS WHY IS OUR GOVERNMENT SUPPORTING BRUTAL OCCUPATION? October 30 - Ramallah: In a press conference held today in Ramallah, approximately 100 U.S. citizens gathered at the Friends Boys School to express their deep concern over the continuing carnage in Palestine and the failure of the U.S. government to take a just stance in the Israel/Palestinian conflict. The group called on the United States to live up to its role as an "honest broker" in peace efforts and to uphold the principles of justice, liberty and human rights that America stands for. Among the concerns that were raised by the participants at the press conference include: the terrorization of Palestinian civilians and disregard for human rights by the Israeli military, the lack of balance in U.S actions and statements, and America's role in supporting the military occupation without insisting on compliance with international law governing occupation. Also brought to light was the failure of the U.S. Consulate to be responsive to the needs of Arab Americans living in the occupied territories. One woman related that her son, a U.S. citizen visiting in Palestine, was arrested and tortured by Israeli forces on his way to the neighborhood grocery store. "He has been held for over a month now without charge." Palestinian American school children sent a message to their peers in the U.S., "while you're going to parties and preparing for homecoming, we're hiding from missiles and bullets," said 16 year old Saed Atshan. Media bias and general mischaracterization of the conflict and the current crises were also mentioned. "It is wrong for the United States to support continued military occupation and the use of brutal force by Israel against Palestinian civilians. We call on our government to take decisive steps towards ensuring compliance with international and humanitarian law and to play a vital role in bringing an immediate end to Israel's occupation of the Palestinian people" said spokesman Mohammad Abdrabbo. --- STATEMENT FROM AMERICANS ABROAD CONCERNED OVER U.S. ROLE IN ISRAEL/PALESTINIAN CONFLICT October 30, 2000 We are U.S. citizens, living in occupied Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza Strip, outraged over the continuing carnage in Palestine, which so far has resulted in the death of at least 130 Palestinians, 4 Palestinian security officers, one Israeli civilian, and 6 Israeli soldiers. No less than 6000 Palestinian civilians lie injured. 30% of the Palestinian casualties are children 18 years of age and under. We deplore the failure of our government to condemn the use of lethal weaponry, including missiles, helicopter gunships, rubber-coated steel bullets, live ammunition, heavy machine gunfire, exploding dum-dum bullets, and linked 40mm grenade launchers by Israeli troops, against Palestinian civilians. Many of us have watched as American-made attack helicopters have been used to bomb Palestinian residential areas, including in our own neighborhoods. We condemn the unilateral actions and
[CTRL] Fwd: ABCNEWS.com : Study: Arabs, Jews Share Genetic Link
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Re: [CTRL] DRACULA WAS A GOOD GUY
-Caveat Lector- From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would Vlad impale his own vassals? I've no idea, but he sure did a lot of it. PRudy Could you verify this, Prudy? Everything I've read on Vlad said that he impaled his political and military enemies, not his own vassals, except in limited circumstances (usually for what he deemed treason)... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mideast Residents Talk About War
-Caveat Lector- Mideast Residents Talk About War http://www.worldnews.com/?action=displayarticle=4088610template=worldnews/ search.txtindex=recent The Associated Press, Mon 23 Oct 2000 AMMAN, Jordan (AP) With Middle East peace talks at a standstill, frustrated Palestinians in exile said Monday that the only way forward is to fight. ``I can sell my house and my belongings, have my 11 children fight and die as martyrs in the war for the sake of liberating Palestine from the Jews,'' said Walid al-Khatib, a 62-year-old Palestinian. ``What's more precious than our homeland?'' asked al-Khatib, who took refuge in Amman's Hussein Camp after fleeing the West Bank town of Hebron during the 1967 Middle East war. In the past three weeks, thousands of demonstrators in Egypt, Syria, Iran, Jordan and elsewhere across the Arab world have called for jihad, or holy war, against Israel. The calls came as frustration soared because of the faltering Middle East peace process, a sense that Arab leaders lack the will for firm action and Israel's call for a ``timeout'' in negotiations. ``The Jews never wanted peace,'' Karima Abdul-Rahim, 65, said with a sigh. ``We lived for 52 years without peace and we can live another 52 years without it,'' Abdul-Rahim said as she picked olives from a tree in her back yard. She originally was from Ramleh in what is now Israel proper. Across the street, shopkeeper Jihad Abu el-Samen, 56, said Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak ``is playing games'' with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and other Arab leaders. ``Barak's 'timeout' means he doesn't want peace,'' he said. ``If he doesn't want peace, then he wants war. And we tell him we want war, too, because the Jews only understand the language of force.'' Barak told his Cabinet the continuation of violence that erupted Sept. 28 between Palestinian demonstrators and Israeli security forces made it necessary for his government to take a ``timeout'' from the peace negotiations to assess the situation. An emergency Arab summit meeting Saturday and Sunday in Egypt held Israel responsible for the deadly violence. Leaders urged international intervention but did not require Arab governments that have made peace with Israel to sever their relations with the Jewish state. Foreign Minister Abdul-Illah Khatib said Jordan, which signed a peace treaty with Israel in 1994, will not cut ties with its neighbor. ``The peace doesn't need more blows,'' he said. Prime Minister Ali Abu-Ragheb told reporters that Barak's timeout declaration was ``unacceptable and lacks logic.'' Instead, Barak should return to the negotiating table, he added. At Hussein camp one of 13 camps in Jordan sheltering more than 1.57 million Palestinian refugees people blamed Arab leaders for what they described as Barak's ``defiance.'' ``It was a slap in the face of all Arab leaders, who have no guts to stand up and tell the criminal Barak, 'We want to cut ties with you,''' said Yousef Attallah, 26, from Lod in what is now Israel. Nidal Zahrawi, 29, a construction worker from the West Bank town of Beit Sahour, said ``Arab people should unite, defy their leaders and fight Israel.'' Both men's families fled to Jordan during the 1967 war. Zahrawi's co-worker, Mahmoud Taha, 32, from Hebron, nodded his head. But when asked if he would fight Israel if war were declared soon, he said: ``It doesn't have to be now.'' ``The Muslims will prevail in a war against the Jews, but not now. Maybe in the next generation or the one after,'' he said. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poll finds young Brits 'dumber' than oldsters
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- THIS ITEM is interesting - blacks are being taught that blacks invented the clock in the 1800 period, though my sister has original Grandfather Clock made in 1500 period purchased from old family in England Must be a VERY old family. And if the clock was made in 1500, why isn't it a great great great great great great great great great grandfather clock. You're not bullshiting again are you sweetie? a masterpiece. The dumbing down of America? So what else is new for the smelting pots - how can you teach someone from a foreign country who no longer speaks English? What does this mean??? How do you take a dull IQ and raise it? Well, impossible for IQ is something with which one is born. Ah, the truth is finally out Saba. You ADMIT that your IQ is the same as the one you were born with. I knew it all along. Good example of modern day IQ refer to Joshua on this list who believes the sailors on the USS Liberty should have been murdered in cold blood IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS. How do you know this? No charges filed as war criminals against Israelies because somebody was so stupid they did not know their law? So many do not know about the USS Liberty because this ship they would like to bury forever and the history of same. Dumbing down of America comes with dumbing down of IQ/ A. Saba Dare To Call It Stupidity Dare To Call It Conspiracy Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American Sailors Napalmed and Bombed while Wounded/Dying by
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: Israelie Planes - Remember the USS Liberty. Note Joshua, even the little motor boats that were used to torpedo the USS Liberty - but those animals napalmed and bombed that ship for 45 minutes in International Waters.. How do you know that? and the Egyptians were to be blamed by the Israelie but they got caught. Further a lot of Navy people remember the Liberty and will remember the Cole.. Are you saying the Cole was blown up by Israelis? Just yes or no. Yes is spelled Y_E_S and no is spelled N_O. and do not think their bodies some of which were burnt beyond recognition will be forgotten. Really? Who were they? Saba and No I am not Arabic - I know you are not Arabic. Arabic is a language. and you are no Jew Joshua unless Ashkenazi and that nazi fits you all fine. No, no Einstein. Jews were not allowed to be nazis. Only Christians. Try another name Joshua and get to work now like a good little mechanic but I would not want you working on my auto .. it is made in America. PLEASE let me work on your big American auto. Please. Just the steering and the brakes. Saba Are you sure you're not Irish? Not that there's anything wrong with that. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nationhood and Jerusalem
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/26/2000 9:24:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do Christians always complain about? I don't know Joshua, I just recall that Palestinian Christians were complaining that they were not allowed to visit those shrines you mention. Prudy When was that? And if that is true, do you suppose it's because they are Christian or because they are Palistinian? We would know this answer if we knew that all other Chritians were also prevented from visiting their shrines. And if so, why? It seems to me that Israel would not intentionally destroy half of its tourist industry. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Nader-Gore: Rebutting Gloria Steinem Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 23:48:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Carol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:31:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mitchel Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rebutting Gloria Steinem : Here is an interesting rebuttal to Gloria Steinem's blast at Nader, in support of Gore, by North Carolina Green Lisa Thurman. To add my own two cents: While Lisa writes that she is "a long time admirer of Gloria Steinem" and "this is the first time I have ever disagreed with Gloria Steinem," those of us who have been around a while know that Gloria Steinem has been, from the start of her career, a hatchet-person for the Democratic Party leadership. Let us not forget that Steinem used to date Henry Kissinger, and that she was a conduit for CIA funds in the 1950s to student gatherings in Europe. The radical feminist group, Redstockings, has systematically exposed phony-feminist Steinem's work on behalf of the US ruling class, and has challenged Steinem to debate its members on this and other issues -- a challenge Steinem has assiduously avoided. - Mitchel Cohen Brookyn Greens / Green Party of NY A Green Party member's rebuttal to Gloria Steinem's, "Top Ten Reasons Why I'm (Gloria) Not Voting For Nader" 10. Gloria: He's not running for president. He's running for federal matching funds for the Green Party! Lisa: Wrong, Nader is not even a Green Party member. He chose the Green Party because of it's values. He is seeking to create awareness and to help support the progressive green social movement. 9. Gloria: He was able to take all those perfect progressive positions of the past because he never had to build an electoral coalition, earn a majority vote, or otherwise submit to democracy. Lisa: Neither did you, and look what influence you had on society, Ms. Steinem 8. Gloria: By condemning Gore for ever having taken a different position - for example, for voting against access to legal abortion when he was Congressman from Tennessee - actually dissuades others from changing their minds and joining us. Lisa: So, are you saying that Gore waffles on the position of reproductive rights? 7. Gloria: Nader is rightly obsessed with economic and corporate control, yet he belittles the movements against a deeper form of control - control of reproduction, the most intimate parts of our lives. For example, he calls the women's movement and the gay and lesbian movements "gondal politics, " and ridicules the use of the word "patriarchy," as if it were somehow more less important than the World Trade Organization. As Congressman Barney Frank wrote Nader in an open letter, "your assertion that there are not important issue differences between Bush and Gore is either flat inaccurate or reflects your view that... the issues are not important... since you have generally ignored these issues in your career. Lisa: One of the Green Party's ten key values is feminism. Ralph Nader has been a powerful and influential spokesperson for the Green Party and the ten key values. And Gloria, what have you done for the environment? Mitchel: And another thing -- Gay activist leader Scott McLarty and many others have met with Nader on these issues and have convincingly rebutted the lies put forth by Barney Frank, the leadership of the National Organization for Women, and other apologists for Gore. You can find some of this at www.counterpunch.org. 6. Gloria: The issues of corporate control can only be addressed by voting for candidates who will pass campaign funding restrictions, and conducting grassroots boycotts and consumer campaigns against sweatshops? not by voting for one man who will never become President Lisa: The issues of corporate control can only be addressed by building local grassroots opposition to corporate control and to put people in office, at the local level, who demonstrate green social values. Nader is a powerful spokesperson for this grassroots movement. 7. Gloria: Toby Moffett, a longtime Nader Raider who also served in Congress, wrote that Nader's "Tweeledum and Tweedledee assertion that there is no important difference between the major presidential candidates would be laughable if it weren't so unsafe". We've been bamboozled by the media's practice of being evenhandedly negative. There is a far greater gulf between Bush and Gore than between Nixon and Kennedy and what they mean to history. Lisa: Nixon and Kennedy were both more progressive and socially liberal then either Bush or Gore Mitchel: Gloria WOULD cite Toby Moffett (hey, why not Henry Kissinger too, while yer at it, Gloria?). Moffett, a former Congressman, was a vice-president at Monsanto, and a leading advocate for the biotechnolgy / genetic engineering industry. Gore is the pre-eminent shill for genetic engineering. To rewrite Moffet's sordid
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-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Rejected posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:39:44 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at America Online (1.8d)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] The distribution of your message dated Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:43:23 -0500 with subject "Re: NM: Senator to Clinton: Don't Wag the Dog" has been rejected because you have exceeded the daily per-user message limit for the CTRL list. Other than the list owner, no one is allowed to post more than 7 messages per day. Please resend your message at a later time if you still want it to be posted to the list. Rejected message (91 lines) -- Received: from smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.107]) by listserv.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01590 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.61]) by smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13q4rP-0004E7-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:39:43 -0500 Received: from 209-122-239-198.s452.tnt2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.239.198] helo=starpower.net) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13q4rO-0003VU-00 ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:39:43 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:43:23 -0500 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nurev Independent Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-STAR032398 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] NM: Senator to Clinton: Don't Wag the Dog References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aleisha Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- Prudy more or less supported the USA.what do you have Joshua, Dual citizenshp - Do you mean American and English dual citizenship? If anything I could have American and German dual citizenship, but that would be like having alcoholic parents. our sailors murdered in INTERNATIONAL WATERSISRAEL HAD TO PAY DOLLARS ON THAT ONE, DIDN'T THEY - BUT IN THE END IT WAS OUR MONEY THEY PAID OUT, WASN'T IT. No. Actually it was just your money. They didn't tell you because they didn't want you to get upset. USS LIBERTY "Attack one American and you attack all Americans" was recently proclaimed by President Clinton. More recently, an Assistant Secretary for State proclaimed that the U. S. government always protects its citizens. These are damn lies and meaningless words. These words were not true in 1967 (when Israel deliberately attacked the USS LIBERTY,) and unfortunately, and in spite of these beautiful words, they are not even true today. Moreover, there is no such thing as justice. Sad but true. You didn't write this did you? It's coherent. (To see a pilot's eye picture of the USS Liberty CLICK HERE) (To see a bigger, beautiful picture of the Liberty CLICK HERE) (Israel claims they thought it was an Egyptian horse transport.) On that June day in 1967, the weather was beautiful... Clear and sunny, visibility unlimited... the LIBERTY, an elaborate state-of-the art intelligence gathering platform, was in international waters off the Gaza strip and was flying the Stars and Stripes. Israeli reconnaissance planes flew overhead for hours. Pilots and ship's crew waved to each other. Then, inexplicably, unmarked Israeli aircraft began attacking the ship. The defenseless LIBERTY radioed for help. Two aircraft carriers in the Med responded by launching fighter aircraft. Unbelievably, they were recalled by the White House. RADM Geis, then commanding the carriers in the Sixth Fleet, called Washington personally to confirm the order. SecDef McNamara came on the line, then President Johnson. Johnson indicated to Geis that the aircraft were to be returned, that he would not have his allies embarrassed, and that he didn't care who was killed or what was done to the ship. Geis, like any good sailor, recalled the aircraft. Why do you think this happened you retarded cow? It's because the US got caught playing booth sides in a war, and it was betraying its ally. With friends like this, who needs enemies? The US could not afford this kind behavior to become known because it was competing for influence in the world during the cold war. And if it was known that the US was an unreliable ally for the smaller nations to hook up with, then they could always go next door. To the Soviets. That's why they covered up the Liberty incident. This was the same gang that brought us the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Yet another part of the world US forces had no business being in. The Gulf of Yemen is another place they don't need to be. Are we getting the point yet? The US military has no business being outside US borders.
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-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Rejected posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:54:52 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at America Online (1.8d)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] The distribution of your message dated Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:58:12 -0500 with subject "Bunch of dupes and bourgie armchair analysts." has been rejected because you have exceeded the daily per-user message limit for the CTRL list. Other than the list owner, no one is allowed to post more than 7 messages per day. Please resend your message at a later time if you still want it to be posted to the list. Rejected message (34 lines) -- Received: from smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.107]) by listserv.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28635 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.61]) by smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13q1Lg-00065g-00; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:54:44 -0500 Received: from 216-164-238-88.s342.tnt9.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.238.88] helo=starpower.net) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13q1LT-0003DX-00 ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:54:31 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:58:12 -0500 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nurev Independent Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-STAR032398 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Eternera Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bunch of dupes and bourgie armchair analysts. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 29 October, 2000 Israel Radio correspondent Nissim Keinan reported this evening that he observed the situation at the Carni checkpoint. "At one point Israeli forces shot straight up into the air to scare away the mob. Now even though the soldiers shot straight up in the air, hitting no one, four Palestinain ambulances came up to the crowd with sirens wailing for the benefit of the cameras and proceeded to evacuate a few fake wounded. The only people who were actually wounded while I was there were shot later as they were throwing fire bombs. And they were hit by sharp shooters." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Political Commentary by Binyamin Zev Kahane
Ralph Nader has right right idea - stop ALL funds to Israel and then let them speak softly while carrying stones and rocks. This article is an example of the State of Israel's true feeings towards the United States of America - whle building memorials to the 6 million our children have been taught to recognize only that 6 million jews died in that war, and not 55 million or more - our men and boys were left on battlefields all over the world for a handful of people - today the unification of Europe, is what Adolph Hitler attempted to do, aided by the AshkeNAZI jews and intrnational bankers who provided the means for Hitler to cause the deaths of 55 million people - It is all too obvious to me that the bible calendar code that I have, which was taken from the 7 men at Spandau by Rusian Guard, saying it was coded - found in the GIDEON BIBLE, a very particular edition from 1952 also mentioned in Albert Speers Diara in Octoberit is all too obvious this is the Jewish Mafia's Code for Murder - and behind JFK to JRK Jr. the Mossad and the likes of a Meyer Lansky, who also caused or murdered Sir Harry Oakes in the Bahams - who had a Hogarth Collection (you should review his prints in the 16 and 1700 period) - it is all too true that Zionism holds the key to the murders and mayhem in this country. Gideon and his 300? Barak is just anothre sleazy assassin who should be tried as war criminal..von Braun got us to the moon - how close to God can one get? Saba Keep thinking of othe one man who is alleged to have helped blow hole in side of USS Cole - he wore glasses and they had a lot of books in their possession, and I imagine before it is over the FBI will connect them to little Buford? Might do well to Remember Littleton..suicide kids who murdered their little classmakes and maimed and crippled some for life...remember, the press first called them neo nazis?Yet Klebold was jewish and called April 20 Judgment Day ... who was his teacher? Who pushed for the destruction of the Christian Children in this school? Who was the teacher of this suicide mission? * The Root of All The Evils - What Will America Say (6/96) Translated by Lenny Goldberg Since the election of Netanyahu, all the analysts and "experts" warn us that if "God forbid" the peace process does not continue, then "OY VEY" from the American reaction... If this was only the "experts" talking, we would be able to understand. The real problem is that we hear the same "tunes" from so many religious Jews: "Yes, it is our land, and we must treat the enemy according to how Torah commands us, but...but what will America say? And how will we manage without their aid?" FELLOW JEWS! "WHAT WILL AMERICA SAY" IS THE CARDINAL SIN OF THIS GENERATION! This is by no means an exaggeration. The underlying root and cause for all our national sins is lack of faith in God. It is lack of belief that God indeed gave us all that he gave us in this generation, including victory after victory over cruel and massive enemies, and that He really can defend us if we hearken to His voice and actualize the national mitzvot He commanded of us - from settling the land to disinheriting the gentiles from it! But alas, apparently even those who resound the praises of God with their lips, grip the sword of fear in their hands. The slightest threat from America - and their knees start shaking! It really is the sin of the Golden Calf renewed! "America is your god, Oh Israel!" It is the sin of the spies all over again! "We are not able to go up...for they are stronger than we". Not for nothing do the sages tell us that "than we" is The Master of the Universe himself! Is it not true that religious Jews says this? Do they not say that America is stronger than us - than the Lord? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO US! Who brought us to the Land with wonderous miracles in the first place? Who gave us the strength to win so many wars against such impossible odds? Will we be blind and not see it? WHY DON'T WE BELIEVE IN GOD? ** Jews! Let us know who we are! Let us know the source of our strength - and say to America: If you stand at our side during our redemption - it will be good for you. And if you try to bother us and steal from our portion - than your fate will be a bitter one! ** "WE SHOULD GO UP AT ONCE AND POSSESS IT; FOR WE ARE WELL ABLE TO OVERCOME IT"!! In memory of the great Bible commentator the holy "OHR HACHAAIM" (Yohrtzeit is 15 of Tamuz), here is what he had to say about the connection between isolation from the gentile and security: "And Israel dwelleth in safety" - When? When she is isolated. And the word "and dwelleth" is a continuation of what is written above it, that 'And said: Destroy', that God commanded Israel to wipe out all the inhabitants of the land, and by so doing, 'Israel dwelled securely - in isolation' (Deuteronomy 33:28) PREVIOUS ARTICLEFULL SCREENNEXT ARTICLE WEEKLY
Re: [CTRL] Poll finds young Brits 'dumber' than oldsters
-Caveat Lector- At the time the Grandfather's Clock was made Joshua, it was a firstin England there are many old treasures that the English and this includes some of the nobility, could not afford to keep. This clock is an original and worth a small fortune but it is part of the family - also a suit of armor dating to crusades purchased of which I have a picture. My ancestors can be traced to the crusades - Christian Crusades. Have a picture of the grandfathers clock and yes Joshua your IQ potential, is something with which you are born, but Joshua stupid is as stupid does, and you would not know that would you. Knowledge is something one acquires and without IQ an a good memory bank - well some retain more than others. I bet you have a pea size brain equivalent to that of a dinosaur. It is said if a wild tiger chomped on the tail of a dinosaur, by the time its little brain got the message, his tale would be gone. I can see you sitting there with your little pointed headcute maybe, but not too bright - and for your information Henry Kissinger an Ashkenazi jew is big time nazi. But by the time you get that message, with your little brain, Kissinger will have cornered the market on the food if he survives his latest panic attack - and gained another 50 pounds of lard. maybe you could go to a shrink and have your brain expanded someway? Anway, goodbye Dino - May I call you Dino? You said our ship had no business in Yemin? Apparently the Israelies so thought for it seems each time we try to make friends with say Egypt, we lose a ship like USS Liberty or when Barak's PR Man wants to improve his image, like a Clinton - we have a USS Cole and guess who will get the blame if they succeed? Why the Boogie Man, Osama bin Laden - a six foot six Arab whom they cannot find - well first murder at the World Trade Center - a body of a contractor found in the basement, said victim was alleged to have been murdered by John Gotti, who was Jewish Mafia and all the time I thought he was Italian - why that guy even had a million dollar contract put on OJ Simpson from his prison cell where he is held in "solitary confinement"...all because Johnny Cochran hired 6 Black Moslems as body guards perhaps? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Nun, Priest Disciplined for Baptism
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Re: [CTRL] The woman who undid the Mideast peace
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/30/2000 4:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Make no mistake. Hillary Rodham Clinton has been a staunch supporter of the Palestine Liberation Front since her "romantic radical" undergraduate days at Wellesley. Those radicals â most of them the indulged sons and daughters of America's upper class â viewed Arafat, a committed terrorist who has transformed the Palestinian territory into a thugocracy, as a "freedom fighter." So to do them a favor she instigated a situation that would give the Israeli an excuse to kill them by the dozen. That figures. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRACULA WAS A GOOD GUY
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/31/2000 7:04:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you verify this, Prudy? Everything I've read on Vlad said that he impaled his political and military enemies, not his own vassals, except in limited circumstances (usually for what he deemed treason)... Look for a biography that was written about 20 years ago. I remember reading it, and shuddering, and also wondering about the Karma thing, because a descendent of his was born without a skeleton. He was on display and according to what I read about him, he was in constant pain. He died at about the age of 42 or 43 (if I remember correctly). That has nothing to do with Vlad, but the book spoke of his impaling whole villages. They were of course his own people. I don't remember the exact name of the book or the author. Maybe even 30 years ago. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American Sailors Napalmed and Bombed while Wounded/Dying by
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Jews were not allowed to be nazis. Only Christians. On the other hand, Jews were allowed, even encouraged, to work for Nazis. In the 30s, when Adolph Eichmann and Otto von Bolschwing were spies in Jerusalem, they recruited many right wing Zionists. These included Fieval Polkes, head of the Haganah, who was paid a regular salary by the SS. The story is in Blowback by Christopher Simpson. Simpson draws from primary sources, including letters and reports now at the Document Center in Berlin. The deal was, the Haganah would spy on the Brits and in return, Zionists would be allowed to recruit in Germany. Remember this was before the Holocaust, even before Crystal Night. They could go on speaking tours of German synagogues and warn the Jews of the horrors that were coming and encourage them to escape while they still could by emigrating to Palestine. The Nazis fleeced them on the way out, of course, so they showed up penniless. But at least they escaped. There's a von Bolschwing report in which Polkes complains bitterly about the "poor quality" of the Jews being sent from Germany lately. They're not Zionists come to settle Israel, complains Polkes, all they want to do is earn enough money to buy a ticket to America. Then there was the Judenrat. But that's another story. Then there was Gen. Milch. That's really another story. The point is, Jews are like, Estonians, Fijians, carpenters, taxi drivers, sports fans, red heads, left handed people and people in hats. They come in all political persuasions. To evaluate all Jews (or anybody else, for that matter) on the basis of what one knows, or thinks one knows, about a few of them, is the very height of folly. Individuals are most accurately assessed as individuals, not as members of a group. Nurev and Saba are prime examples. Read what they write and judge for yourself. Do not, however, confuse what either writes with what they forward. Forwards are a separate issue. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cabinet Member Possibilities in National Journal
-Caveat Lector- I just caught a glimpse of the list this morning. C-SPAN was on, but I was busy and couldn't just sit and watch. I walked into the room and there was this list on the screen. It was gone in a second, but I happened to notice that Slade Gorton was shown as No. 2 man for Dubya's Secretary of the Interior. Slade Gorton hates Indians, and anyone protesting or at least protesting environmental matters. It was in one of Slade Gorton's Washington offices where the cops were holding those girls' eyes open and swabbing them with pepper spray. Gorton thought it was aces. If that's an example of the cabinet members Bush is considering, we better hope he doesn't win. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [2] The Good Ole' Guns and Drug War, Law 'n Order Madness Page !!
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.dopewar.org/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.dopewar.org/"http://www.dopewar.org//A - Economics Trilateralism: The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management Ed. by Holly Sklar (Boston MA.:South End Press(1980)) (SP,H,PS,Cr) On the international corporate economic planning infrastructure. Webs of Power; International Cartels and the World Economy Mirov Maurer (Boston,MA.:Houghton Mifflin(1982)) (SP,H,Cr) On how collusive oligopolistic cartels eliminate the competition and limit economic and social possibilities as a consequence. The International Drug Trade Gary M; McCuen (Hudson,Wisc.:G.E.McCuen Publ.(1989)) (H,PS,Cr) Big Business in the Third Reich Arthur Schweitzer (Bloomington,Ind.: Indiana Univ.Press(1964)) (SP,H,Cr) Details the fascistic centralization of the German economy as an integral factor of the pre WW II nazi rise. Fascism and Big Business Daniel Guerin (N.Y.,N.Y.:Monad Press,dist By Pathfinder Press(1973)) (SP,H,Cr) Mortgaging the Earth Bruce Rich (Boston,MA.:Beacon Press (1993)) (SP,PS,H,Ph,Cr) Great work on how development theory is destroying the planet. Interesting look at the true character of the people responsible for the intellectual foundations of the present economic paradigm.(see the chapter; From Descartes to Chico Mendes.) Those who built the intellectual foundations of modern scientific "objectivity" were actually just a bunch of raving self-centered alchemists. I detest repressed emotionalism clothed as "objectivity" and "impartiality". The Debt Boomerang; How Third World Debt Harms Us All Susan George (Boulder,Colo.:Westview Press(1992)) (PS,H,Ph,Cr) Great look at the mechanisms of economic predation utilized by the IMF/World Bank and their consequences. Also shows how 12-15 million people were killed (murdered, starved, worked, diseased, etc.)in the US sphere of influence as a direct consequence of CIA/State Dept.-orchestrated neo-colonial foreign policymaking. Documents how one country laundered cocaine revenues into the international financial mechanisms of the IMF/World Bank. The Business of Drugs Mary Cooper (Washington,D.C.: Congressional Quarterly(1990)) (SP,H,PS,Cr) Public Debt and Private Wealth: Debt, Capital Flight, and the I.M.F. in the Sudan Richard P. Brown (London, Eng.: MacMillan(1992)) (PS,H,Cr,Ph) Relates irresponsible economic predation to the occurrence of famines in the Sudan; also a form of political economic "enclosure" called exclusion. The Myth of Marginality: Urban Poverty and Politics in Rio de Janeiro Janice Perlman (Berleley,CA.:Univ. of California Press(1979)) (SP,H,PS,Ph) Reveals how economic elites exploit the poor in the U.S. sphere of influence. The Debt Squads: The U.S.,The Banks, and Latin America Branford Kucinski (London,Eng.;Atlantic Highlands,N.J.: Zed Books(1988)) (H,PS,Cr) Dark Victory: The U.S., Structural Adjustment, and Global Poverty Bello, Cunningham, Rau (Oakland,CA.:Food First 398 60th St.,Oakland,CA.94618; $12.95+$3.50 shpg.(1994)) (SP,H,PS,Cr) Dragons in Distress: Asia's Miracle Economies in Crisis Walden Bello (San Francisco, CA.: Institute for Food and Development Policy(1990)) (SP,H,PS) The World Bank and the Poor Aart Van De Laar (Boston,MA.: M.Nijhoff (1980)) (H,PS,Cr) Shows how an autonomous dictatorial collective can ignore good common sense advice and do whatever they please. The Release of the Destruction of Life Devoid of Value: It's Measure and it's Form K.Binding, A.Hoche,and R.Sassone (Santa Ana, CA.:Life Quality(1920,1975)) (SP,P,H,PS,S,Cr) The Unseen Revolution: The Rise of Pension Fund Socialism in America Peter Drucker (N.Y.,N.Y.:Harper Row(1976)) (SP,H,E,PS) Creating Alternative Futures: The End of Economics Hazel Henderson (N.Y.,N.Y.:Putnam(1980,1978) (PS,Ph) Great analysis of the true roots of economic stagflation. If Women Counted: A New Feminist Economics Marilyn Waring (San Francisco,CA.:HarperRow(1988)) (SP,P,H,PS,S,Cr) Also originally titled Counting for Nothing. Hot Money and the Politics of Debt R.T.Naylor (N.Y.,N.Y.: Linden Press,dist by Simon Schuster(1987)) (H,PS,Cr) If one isn't careful, one will become psychologically numbed by the huge quantity of corruption and lawlessness detailed in this text. In Banks We Trust Penny Lernoux (Garden City,N.J.:Anchor Press/Doubleday(1984)) (H,PS,Cr) The Merchant Bankers Joseph Wechsberg (N.Y.,N.Y.:Pocket Books/SimonSchuster(1966)) (H,PS,Cr) Talks about two enterprising scotsmen who got their venture capital through the opium trade. Gentlemen all. Asia's Next Giant: South Korea and Late Industrialization Alice H. Amsden (N.Y.,N.Y.: Oxford University Press(1989)) (PS,Ph) Tells how extensive government intervention in the economy actually was much more successful at managing South Korea's growth than the so-called "free market" bullcrap. Executive Compensation in Large Industrial Organizations Wilbur Llewellen (N.Y.,N.Y.: Columbia Univ Press(1968)) (SP,PS,Ph) Secret Money Ingo
[CTRL] [1] The Good Ole' Guns and Drug War, Law 'n Order Madness Page !!
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.dopewar.org/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.dopewar.org/"http://www.dopewar.org//A - The Free Stuff Nice Pictures You made it. The Good Ole' Guns and Drug War, Law 'n Order Madness Page !! "Psychological warfare employs all moral and physical means, other than orthodox military operations, which tend to: a.Destroy the will and the ability of the enemy to fight. b.Deprive him of the support of his allies and neutrals. c.Increase in our own troops and allies the will to victory" Psychological warfare employs any weapon to influence the mind of the enemy. The weapons are psychological only in the effect they produce and not because of the nature of the weapons themselves. In this light, overt(white), covert(black), and gray propaganda; subversion; sabotage; special operations; guerrilla warfare; espionage; political, cultural, economic, and racial pressures are all effective weapons. They are effective because they produce dissension, distrust, fear, and hopelessness in the mind of the enemy, not because they originate in the psyche of propaganda or psychological warfare agencies." The Science of Coercion (pp.12,81,113) by Christopher Simpson "Real power begins where secrecy begins. The only rule of which everybody in a totalitarian state may be sure." Hannah Arendt "Those who suffer from a power complex find the mechanization of man a simple way to realize their ambitions." Norbert Weiner Keep on going...down the page just a little bit more. I had this really great picture of George H.W. Bush wrapped in the swastika that someone gave me during the 80's, but someone stole it out of my room recently. If someone has it, please send it to me and I'll be eternally grateful. The policymaking of the "War on Drugs" can best be understood from the perspective of the use of psychological operations in fascist revolution. Wholistic mass manipulation may best be understood as a dynamic interrelated process acting on a targetted population over time. The emphasis of the program design will depend on the specific characteristics and vulnerabilities of the population targetted for "conversion". Needless to say, all the physical, mental, psychological, and spiritual factors acting on the human bean can't be accounted for totally, much less analysed. Obviously, though, some people have seen fit to use every means necessary to manipulate others to achieve sometimes extremely antisocial and ultimately mass suicidal goals founded in a fear borne of greed; the true philosophical underpinnings of the pseudojustification of "national security". Paradoxically, this policymaking has generated higher levels of chaos in our country than has ever been seen before in U.S.history. Collective dictatorial totalitarianism is the real threat to the self-determination of any truly free people. The goundbreaking work of Caplan and Pantony on the Delusional Dominating Personality Disorder (DDPD) ,detailed in Canadian Psychology Vol.32,#2, is a great place to start exploring current ideas on authoritarianism (the pathology of the criminal warlord). The purpose of my work is to stimulate people to move towards the fuller self-determination that comes from being more fully informed about history and the evils we are all capable of. One of the biggest obstacles facing the democratic self-determination of the American people are the ubiquitous presence of fear-based, self-serving, non-responsive dictatorial collectives in the public and private sector organizational landscape. These collectives are also known as boards of directors, corporations, armies, security forces, city councils, governments, secret societies, fraternities, etc. The CIA is one of the most sophisticated and dangerous of these collectives, acting as it does to facilitate large-scale criminal activities such as insurance and bank scams, large-scale counterfeiting, smuggling, mass slaughter, economic deprivation, gun-running, drug-running, real estate scams, etc, to finance fascist revolution/conversions in cooperation with large sectors of the international corporate financial infrastructure. These criminal interactions can be considered the greatest threat to the integrity of constitutional democracy, t he continuity of world economic systems, and the long-term viability of planetary biological systems upon which all species depend for life. The best defense against external manipulation are deeply held values and beliefs which form the basis for constructive and coherent self-directed action. I've sorted the references into nine subject areas. They are social psychology (SP), psychology (P), history (H), economics (E), political science (PS), spirituality(S), medicine (M), philosophy (Ph), and criminology (Cr). The last section is for the individual addict/alcoholic who still abuses and introduces a community based addiction reduction and antiviolence/community stabilization
[CTRL] Fwd: New book,other stuff...
Dear People, I am pleased finally to announce that the book Violent Politics, Empowering Liberation; US Drug Wars in Cultural Perspective is finally on-line at long last. The free bibliography, graphics, and chapters are at http://www.dopewar.org, and the spendy stuff is at www.3mpub.com/Lyle Courtsal (book is in PDF format for $10 a download). Tell your friends and lets kick George Bush's butt.
[CTRL] Fwd: Bush-Nazi-CIA Connection ::: Fourth Reich Amerikan Style
Allies, Earthlings Agents ::: The following references will make the Nazi-Bush-CIA connection as glaringly apparent as a Skull Bones pin on a Gestapo collar. We feel this issue is particularly important to EXPOSE at this time, before the U.S. election. Please pass this information on in any form that you can. The ghosts of a million Holocaust victims haunt these words. Never Again! White Rose Resistance Hawai'i ^^^ The CIA the Amerikan Police State ::: Allegiance to "Amorality"? * "In the beginning, much of the machinery of national security was directed at adversaries abroad. The CIA, in particular, was given the mission of manipulating the internal affairs of other countries, from rigging elections to engineering coups. But it is not possible to create an invisible government, a world of secret agents and covert operators, without using those resources sooner or later against the American people. "There were other reasons why the normal checks and balances of the American constitutional system failed to prevent the intelligence agencies from breaking the law and violating basic rights. In any democratic society there is a tension between liberty and order, between individual freedom and the requirements of society as a whole. Normally, however, such conflicts are resolved within the framework of law and the judicial system. But the intelligence operators believed in a higher morality. They peruaded themselves that they had the right to use any means in the pursuit of the ends of national security. "A 1954 report of the Hoover commission on government reorganization set the tone: 'It is now clear that we are facing an implacable enemy whose avowed objective is world domination by whatever means and at whatever cost. There are no rules in such a game. Hitherto acceptable norms of human conduct do not apply. If the U.S. is to survive, long-standing American concepts of 'fair play' must be reconsidered.' "William Sullivan told the Senate Intelligence committee, 'Never once did I hear anybody, including myself, raise the question: 'Is this course of action which we have agreed upon lawful, is it legal, is it ethical or moral?'... We never gave any thought to this line of reasoning, because we were just naturally pragmatists. The one thing we were concerned about was this: Will this course of action work, will it get us what we want? As far as legality is concerned, morals or ethics, it was never raised. I think this suggests really in government that we are amoral. In government-I am not speaking for everybody-the general atmosphere is one of amorality.' "In a democracy, official amorality and lawbreaking take place in secret. The intelligence abuses have been able to flourish because of a pervasive system of official secrecy that has permitted the lawbreakers to conceal their illegal acts by stamping them 'Top Secret'. The government's classification system, which has existed for civilian agencies only since 1951, has thus provided a vital cocoon of secrecy to mask the illegalities from the public, the press, and the Congress. "What is clear is that democracy has been diminished and individual freedom curtailed without the nation's knowing what was happening. Even the victims of FBI harassment seldom suspected that the government was behind their difficulties. A police state, American style, has developed, not by the choice of the voters, or by the legislative process, but by erosion. "The trust between the people and the government, on which democracy depends, has also been eroded by the wide-ranging disclosures of improper activities and official lawbreaking. When that trust is weakened or destroyed, it is not easily restored. "Since technology has outpaced efforts at political control of the intelligence agencies-indeed until quite recently there were virtually no such efforts at all-the prospects for the future are not pleasant. The super-sophisticated techniques developed by the National Security Agency to intercept telephone or other conversations, or to tap, uninvited, into computers, may mean that in the not too distant future those who dissent from established policy may literally have no place to hide. "A government of laws requires a legal framework if there is any hope that powerful agencies are to be controlled, and the basic laws governing the CIA and FBI have been shockingly vague. The National Security Act of 1947 should be rewritten or replaced to prohibit the CIA from engaging in domestic spying. The CIA's entire network of shadowy domestic divisions should be shut down and the Agency confined to gathering intelligence overseas-which was Congress' intention when it created the intelligence agency. "CIA covert operations, from rigging elections abroad to
[CTRL] Nessie returns
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/29.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RadTimes # 87
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 87 October, 2000 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- Contents: --- --Is direct action the new democracy? --LAPD Homeless Sweeps Target Skid Row --Ritalin becoming school yard hustlers' newest product --Study Finds Resurgence in Corporate Tax Avoidance Linked stories: *New global role puts FBI in unsavory company *Judge orders bookstore to turn over invoice *Editorial: Give Drug Czar More Authority [humor?] --- Begin stories: --- Is direct action the new democracy? 3 October, 2000 BBC News Online The violent protests in Prague are just one example of a phenomenon that has dominated the political scene in Europe in recent weeks: direct action. Fuel protests by farmers and truckers have swept the continent, forcing concessions from many European governments. Protesters argue that this is often the only way to make their voices heard against 'out of touch' governments or 'unrepresentative' global institutions. But is direct action - which often tramples on the rights of innocent bystanders - justified. Is it the only way in which the powerless can make their voices heard in the era of big business and globalisation? Is this the new democracy or does it risk damaging the rule of law on which the fabric of our societies are built? In our Europewide debate, Europe Today's Johannes Dell brought together from Paris the French journalist Catherine Guilyardi and in London the British political columnist Mary Riddell. This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below. Your reaction: John Stuart Mill said, "actions should reflect the greatest number of people". However, the IMF/ World Bank has not and never will represent "we the people". Need I remind people that the IMF/ World Bank are non-elected officials engaging in a Wall Street scam to line the pockets of the rich with gold instead of wool. I champion people over profits and I plan to continue protesting for a true democracy. -- Anne Block, USA What is so democratic about the World Bank/IMF both of which are controlled by a handful of rich governments under the one dollar one vote system? Did the people of Namada whose livelihoods will be destroyed by the dam built with WB money ever get a vote? -- Kieran, Wales There is nothing "new" about direct action. And calling it "democratic" is relative. -- Edward, UK The people who undertake direct action have not been democratically elected to speak on our behalf. They should desist from unruly protests. -- H. Bhadeshia, UK Politicians complain all the time that people don't bother to go out and vote any more. The reason is that people feel voting doesn't change anything. And are they so wrong? All the mainstream parties are in favour of the World Bank and the IMF. The Czech police defend them as they once defended Husak. Parliamentary politics is in the pocket of the big corporations. Where do you expect the protest to go? -- Tim Vanhoof, Germany Peaceful protests used to be noticed. Now they are simply ignored without comment or media coverage (until they turn nasty). If we want peaceful protests to continue - we have to start noticing them, otherwise Direct Action is the only way to for protesters to get their message heard. -- Mike, UK "New democracy?" One well-publicised protest doesn't create a "new" anything nor does it much threaten the rule of law - the government has the guns after all and if they choose not to engage the protestors then even violent protest does little permanent damage. Of course the protestors are trying to get headlines (and the attendant empty-headed commentary) while the government must balance the value of liberty against the profits of big business. I thought the protestors were right in that fuel tax is much too high but I certainly can't fault the UK government for their restraint. It looks to me like this issue is a good example of democracy working well. -- Mickey Pallen, USA Direct action is a consequence of the electorate feeling that politicians do not listen to them through the normal democratic channels and resorting to the only means left available to them. -- Gavin Pearson, USA I disagree with such direct action. I wish the media would not give these individuals a forum on which to display their parochial views. Clearly, these individuals are out of the mainstream. Their disenchantment with government should not be the blame for the best system the world has known. Should we return to the days of global separatism and the type economic competition that causes war? Globalisation has its problems. Give us a better
Re: [CTRL] History of Health web page
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find an excerpt from the History of Health web page. Sincerely, Neil Brick excerpt from : http://www.health.microworld.com/html/history_2.html This may be triggering for survivors of abuse. All accusations are alleged. 1977 Timothy Leary publishes "Exo-Psychology", in which he confides "there are two aspects of this social conditioning regime which are not stressed by Skinner. To make it work, the government psychologists must have total control over the citizenry, and there mustbe total secrecy and censorship. One dissident, freedom-oriented psychologist can totally disrupt a psychological fascism by public exposure. Psychological control techniques cannot be employed in a democracy where minority groups can campaign against and publicly discuss the techniques being used. Thus, the proposals of B.F. Skinner cannot be implemented except in a state where the government has total control of communication." 1977 The US Army admits that it had carried out hundreds of biological warfare tests in the United States over a period of decades since World War II, including 25 major operations targeting the American public employing known disease-causing agents. Crop disease substances were used 31 times. 1977 Stewart publishes a study evaluating 160 cases of adverse reactions occurring after a DPT shot. Among the reactions were paralysis. 1977 Congressional Hearings on the cancer problem in the United States. A report generated concluded that "the public has been misled by the major cancer organizations for the past 25 years." It recommended that those benefiting from "the system" not be allowed to dictate the choices available to the American public.This Congressional study was ignored. 1977 CIA admits MKULTRA consisted of 149 sub-projects involving 44 colleges and universities, 15 research foundations, 12 hospitals and 3 prisons. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HE: Secret Weapons Deals Only a Scandal
-Caveat Lector- Secret Weapons Deals Only a Scandal When Republicans Make Them No Surprise: Media Ignore Goregate By Tim Graham Human Events In the waning moments of presidential campaigns, political junkies always look for potential "October Surprises"last-minute allegations, events, or decisions that could potentially sway the race toward one party or the other. In recent years, those surprises have often focused on foreign policy controversies. Unsurprisingly, Americas "objective" national news media have shown a partisan variability in reporting or even creating these occurrences. This years October Surprise is the story of the dog that didnt bark. Thats because the big foreign policy scandal this October is a story that could kill the chances of the Democratic, not the Republican, presidential candidate. For years, ABCs Ted Koppel and PBSs "Frontline" investigated the discredited theory that the 1980 Reagan campaign conspired with the Iranians to delay the release of the American hostages until after the election. But, then, in 1992, no ABC or PBS specials probed Iran-Contra independent counsel Lawrence Walshs October Surprise: Four days before the election, he re-indicted former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and asserted that then-Vice President George Bush was "in the loop" on Iran-Contra essentials. (In fact, ABC, CBS, and NBC did not even mention Walsh by name in their reports, characterizing Walshs extremely political maneuver as just the unsuspicious emergence of "new material" or "new grand jury evidence.") Weapons to Iran In October 1996, the Washington Post foreshadowed an Al Gore scandal by reporting on the now-infamous fundraiser at the Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple that would later lead to the conviction of Gore fundraiser Maria Hsia for hiding contributions from the FEC. But, this time, the networks stayed silentnot picking up the story until the following March, after Clinton and Gore had been safely reelected. This October, the New York Times and the Washington Times have uncovered another potentially damaging story concerning Gore. First, in a 2,500-word front-page article in the October 13 edition of the New York Times, John Broder reported that in 1995 "Vice President Gore signed a secret agreement with Viktor S. Chernomyrdin, then the Russian prime minister." The deal allowed the Russians to continue selling conventional weapons to Iran until 1999. Among these weapons was a super quiet Kilo-class submarine that could threaten U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf. After the 1999 deadline passed, the Russian kept selling the Iranians weapons despite Chernomyrdins secret deal with Gore. Broder added that the secret deal undercut a 1992 law principally sponsored by Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.) and then-Sen. Gore himself that required the administration to impose sanctions on governments discovered to be selling weapons to nations, such as Iran, that are tagged by the State Department for sponsoring terrorism. McCain told Broder that he was unaware of the Gore-Chernomyrdin deal and that a "strong case can be made" that Russian arms deliveries to Iran, especially the hard-to-detect Kilo-class submarine, should have triggered sanctions under the Gore-McCain law. "If the administration acquiesced in the sale," said McCain, "then I believe they have violated both the intent and the letter of the law." Although he had been the darling of the media when he was battling Bush in the primaries, McCain was not besieged by interview requests from the major network to discuss Gores illegal arms deal. Four days after the New York Times story, Washington Times reporter Bill Gertz uncovered another secret deal that Gore had made with Chernomyrdin. In a classified 1995 letter, the Russian prime minister had informed the Vice President about Moscows involvement in helping Iran build and fuel a nuclear reactor. The letter referred to a prior agreement between Chernomyrdin and Gore on the matter, and insisted that the information about the Russian-Iranian nuclear cooperation was "not to be conveyed to third parties, including the U.S. Congress." "Sources on Capitol Hill," reported Gertz, "said Mr. Gore withheld the information from key senators who would normally be told of such high-level security matters." He added that Gores withholding of the information may have violated a provision of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act, which requires the administration to keep congressional oversight committees fully informed on nuclear proliferation matters. Senators began investigating the secret dealings, but their plans to hold hearings spurred no advance stories at ABC, CBS, NBC, or CNN. Only Fox News Channel covered the issue on "Special Report with Brit Hume." When the Senate actually held the hearings on October 25, "The Early Show" on CBS and ABCs "World News Tonight" noted them in passing. CBS anchor Diana Olick reported: "Questions about a secret arms deal and Vice
[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Oct 31
UNDERNEWS Oct 31, 2000 THE PROGRESSIVE REVIEW Washington's most unofficial source Editor: Sam Smith 1312 18th St. NW #502, Washington DC 20036 202-835-0770 Fax: 835-0779 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB SITE: http://prorev.com READERS FORUM: http://prorev.com/bb.htm - WORD Unnumbered spirits round thee fly, The light militia of the lower sky -- Alexander Pope MORNING LINE To give you an idea of how mercurial this election is, we began the morning by posting the latest tracking poll results that showed Bush moving significantly ahead. We accompanied them with a headline noting this shift. Then we turned to recording the state by state polls and were amazed to find that Gore was now in the lead (although only by 16 votes) based on the latest available surveys. Admittedly, the electoral count lags the tracking polls and in this election that could make all the difference, but it is a warning not to count one's chickens (or lack thereof) for a while yet . . . Also tightening up: the race between Lazio and Clinton in New York and this just in from Scott Rasmussen re California: "Nader at 6... Gore up by 3... most undecideds are Dems choosing between Gore and Nader... I still see this as a Gore state... However, if it is clear to everyone that Bush has it wrapped up, Nader vote could go up and Gore could lose... not likely, but possible... Rasmussen's results also show Bush having pretty well locked up the electoral college and says that Gore needs to win 70% or more of toss-up electoral votes. Zogby, who is doing daily tracking polls in key states, is coming back with results more favorable to Gore. ANTI-NADER DIRTY TRICK CALLED ILLEGAL An anti-Nader scheme in which Nader supporters in tightly-fought states are being urged to trade away their ballot to someone in a state with a large Gore majority has been called illegal by the California Secretary of State. The vote scam was absurd on its face since there was no way a Nader supporter could assure that the Gore backer would actually vote for Nader. Further, as the Review reported, Democrats were circulating e-mails in which Gore backers were being urged to promise numerous Nader supporters their same vote -- as presumably no one would ever find it out. The dirty trick -- reminiscent of those used by Richard Nixon -- was derailed when one of several web sites promoting it received a letter from the California Secretary of State. As one site described it, "We have just received word from the California Secretary of State that offering to 'broker the exchange of votes' is a violation of California state law. Therefore we have turned our software off in order to be in compliance." At least two web sites shut down and a third removed the links that made it operable. The San Francisco Chronicle reported, "Secretary of State Bill Jones said earlier yesterday that any "inducement" to vote a certain way is considered illegal under California law . . . Representatives of the secretary of state's offices in Missouri and Texas, two states where there has been a lot of swapping activity, also said the trading is illegal under their laws." The dirty trick seems to have sprung from an article in Slate suggesting the scheme. The article was by Washington Democratic operative Jamin Raskin, who apparently wanted to get his resume in to Gore early. Ironically, Raskin is a professor of constitutional law. http://www.sfgate.com/ NEWS FROM THE COLONIES Another in a series of bizarre twists in the D.C. Democracy 7 Trial occurred as the jury proclaimed what later turned out to be a non-unanimous guilty verdict for disrupting Congress. Initially, after nearly 5 hours of deliberation, the jury foreperson had stated that a guilty verdict had been reached for all six defendants. When Judge Anna Blackburne-Rigsby polled each juror individually at the request of defense counsel Kenneth Page, however, one juror stated that he had found the defendants "guilty with reservation." When the judge questioned the juror as to whether he had concluded that the government's case had been proven "beyond a reasonable doubt," the juror replied "not really." After extended discussions at the bench, Judge Blackburne-Rigsby delayed a decision as to whether a mistrial should be declared, or the jury sent back for further deliberations. The trial began after two days of jury selection and a decision by the US Attorney's office that the charge against a defendant who is a Statehood Green party candidate for public office had been dismissed. The prosecutors gave no reason for dismissing the charge. The defendants were arrested on July 26 in the House visitor's gallery after they spoke out on the DC appropriations bill, which contains numerous riders contrary to local popular will. The riders include prohibitions on a medical marijuana initiative and a domestic partnership law, restrictions on the city's locally funded needle exchange
[CTRL] Fwd: Esquire:Feature Story
Esquire Story where Clinton demanded apology from Republicans and Democrats who voted to impeach him..they say to "bring your barf bag" when you read this one..cannot reproduce on this web tv satisfactoryily but it is safe to open this subject store above. Esquire is alleged to have LIED to our President (well he is not my president) and said this story would be out after the election.\ Does anybody read Esquire anymore? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/001026_mfr_clinton_1.html
[CTRL] Fw: SN1700:MAJORITY OF RUSSIAN ELITE THINKS THAT THE U.S. POSES THREAT
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Miroslav Antic Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:23 AM Subject: SN1700:MAJORITY OF RUSSIAN ELITE THINKS THAT THE U.S. POSES THREAT MAJORITY OF RUSSIAN ELITE THINKS THAT THE U.S. POSES THREAT TO RUSSIA - POLL MOSCOW. Oct 30 (Interfax) - A recent poll shows that more than one half of the Russian 'elite' is prone to believing that the United States poses a threat to Russia's security. A majority 53.2% of the elite said they think that the United States is really a danger to Russia, 41.4% think otherwise, and 5.4% had difficulty answering the question, the All-Russia Independent Research Center - Gallup International reported Monday, after having conducted a survey of 500 representatives of the country's elite. The poll was conducted in ten Russian cities at the end of September. The question was asked of representatives of the executive and legislative authorities, business and state enterprise leaders, scientists and top mass media brass. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] {slick-d} Fwd: Political Commentary by Binyamin Zev Kahanen
-Caveat Lector- Baby Bush is going to win this one - they do not like to mention the fact he received endorsement from all the FOPs, etc., according to once source, and no doubt he will get parents of the Boy Scouts, the Mormons, the Catholics, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson voters, disgruntled disgraced democrats who are now ashamed to be democrats, all republicans, and it will be by a nose - Naders? Well Nader said take the State of Israel off our welfare list...there goes the jewish vote. Nader is Lebanese - but he does not have nose like Tower of Lebanon - in fact, I do not remember what his nose looks like or even his face... So Bush said as long as he was President no US soldier would ever wear UN uniform...UN is out, WTO is outrioters are in.. Hill and Bill get homosexual and pervert votes. Hill and Bill get lost souls votes. Hill and Bill get psycho votes. Hill and Bill get depraved votes. HIll and Bill get portion of democrat vote. Hill and Bill get all the stupid vote (and Joshua's vote, no doubt) So it will be the Burning Bush, the Great I am that I am, super Mason and CIA for all Bushes are CIAthe great Skull and Bones while not pick of the litter, I like him for he is a gentleman and is blood relation to meand I can prove my pedigreee. So like father, like sonlike his Moo Moo too. Beats the hell out of Gore. At least that is what I think and I have never picked a loser . Clintons speak out of three sides of their mouths and together, six sides - one side for jews, one side for arabs, one side for whites and one side for coloreds, one side for queers and one side for non-perverts...but the kids whom they have killed from Waco to Ruby Ridge to the Balkans - well have they ever apologized to the boy scouts for attempting to blackmail them into admitting sodomists to this group of children who have always been straight arrows - at least they try? Hard for me to believe anyone other than political hack or pornographer amd drug runner for mob like Flynt would support him. So who the hell wants perverts in our white house sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom - but so long as they stay away from General Lees Memorial, what the hell do I care - never liked Lincoln anyway - hope bumps in night keep him awake. Saba High Priestess of Temple of Bush A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fallout widens from Arizona's backfired alternative-fuel plan
-Caveat Lector-
Fallout widens from Arizona's backfired alternative-fuel plan
By PAUL DAVENPORT, Associated Press
PHOENIX (October 31, 2000 7:00 a.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) -
Gary King suspects he knows just how the state will recoup the runaway
costs from its botched subsidy program for alternative-fuel vehicles: his
wallet.
"We're all going to have to pay for this one," said the planning consultant
from suburban Chandler as he stood in an absentee voting line Monday.
Instead of cleaning Arizona's air, the program has backfired, sullying the
state's Republican party, blemishing the governor's record and leaving
many residents fuming.
The expanded program, approved this year by the Legislature, offered
people large incentives to use cars that run on so-called clean fuels, such
as natural gas or propane.
It proved unexpectedly popular: So many residents rushed to take
advantage of the tax breaks offered by the state that the program's costs
have spiraled nearly out of control.
Thousands of Arizonans poured into dealerships to buy or convert an
estimated 22,000 vehicles, pushing the cost of the program to an
estimated $483 million. It was supposed to cost about $3 million when
legislators passed it earlier this year.
It has left people like Phoenix school teacher Evangeline Rivera shaking
her head.
"I can't believe they didn't run a projection - a well thought-out projection -
before they started this," she said.
The fallout could be more than just public disgust, judging by the near-daily
rounds of criticism on radio talk shows and newspaper editorial pages.
"This is an embarrassment to the whole Republican Party," Sen. David
Petersen said. "Not only do we have the speaker involved, we have a
number of legislators who voted for it and a governor who didn't catch this
early on."
State Attorney General Janet Napolitano launched a criminal investigation
that could involve allegations of fraud, bribery and conflict of interest. She
declined to identify potential targets.
House Speaker Jeff Groscost, the program's chief architect, faces ethics
scrutiny because he has purchased and leased several vehicles from a
conversion company whose president was involved with drafting the law.
Groscost has denied that he personally profited from his work on the issue
and said his only motives were to reduce air pollution and dependence on
foreign oil.
While Republicans have a comfortable 40-20 lead in the House, they only
have a 16-to-14 margin in the Senate. Understandably, the GOP has tried
to widen the blame beyond their party.
"The votes were across party lines," said Senate President Brenda Burns,
a Republican. "Everyone regrets that the costs were phenomenal and no
one could have ever imagined that. That lays at the feet of everyone
equally."
Over the summer, Democrat Jay Blanchard, an Arizona State University
professor and former Marine pilot, admitted that he would need a miracle
to beat Groscost on Nov. 7.
"Things have changed dramatically," Blanchard said last week. "Sadly,
we've got the miracle and the miracle is a half-billion theft from the state
treasury."
Gov. Jane Hull, who requested and got legislators to approve a moratorium
on the program during a special session earlier this month, is looking for
ways to rein in the costs.
Hull, who acknowledged Monday that the responsibility is ultimately hers
because she signed the bill into law, said the unexpected price of the
legislation has been dwarfed by bigger toll.
"In this case the loss of public confidence and trust is ultimately the highest
cost," she said.
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[CTRL] Clinton furious about Esquire 'Leak'
-Caveat Lector- Clinton Complains about Esquire 'Leak' By Susan Jones CNS Morning Editor October 31, 2000 (CNSNews.com) - President Clinton says Esquire magazine 'promised faithfully' that it would not release its interview with Clinton until after the election. "And I believed it," he snapped Monday in response to a reporter's question. Both Clinton and Vice President Al Gore reportedly are furious that Clinton's comments to Esquire - and a provocative cover photo of Clinton sitting with his legs spread -- were released over the weekend. The Gore campaign fears the reminder of Clinton scandals could turn off swing voters at a time when Gore is desperately reaching out to them. In the interview scheduled to run in the December Esquire, Clinton discusses his impeachment - and reportedly demands an apology from Republicans. "Unlike them [the Republicans], I've apologized to the American people for what I did wrong, and most Americans think I paid a pretty high price ... They never apologized to the country for impeachment. They've never apologized for all the things they've done ... But, folks, I think that they haven't necessarily put their abuse of power behind them," Clinton is quoted as saying. The Washington Times reports that Clinton took offense when a reporter asked him why congressional Republicans should apologize for impeaching him. Clinton responded, "I doubt if you've read the whole interview, or you wouldn't have asked the question in that way." Clinton said, "I would just urge the American people, if they're hearing all this talk, to read exactly what was said." The magazine won't come out until after the election, however. In the meantime, Clinton said Americans should focus on the election. When asked about Clinton's comments on the impeachment issue, Senator Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) said, "That's absolutely bizarre, but it shows you something about his thinking and the judgment that he has. Look, he disgraced the office. He did things in the Oval Office that just absolutely are still incredible, and then he lied about it." Earlier, on a Sunday talk show, Lott said, "If there is any apology to be made, he owes it over and over again for what he put the country through." Esquire Editor-in-Chief David Granger is quoted in the Washington Times as saying that Esquire "violated no (embargo) agreement with the White House." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BG: Questions remain on Bush's service as Guard pilot
-Caveat Lector- [Sen. Bob Kerrey pushed this news story on Hardball tonight.] http://www.globe.com/dailyglobe2/305/nation/Questions_remain_on_Bush_s_service_as_Guard_pilotP.shtml Boston Globe 10/31/2000 Questions remain on Bush's service as Guard pilot By Walter V. Robinson, Globe Staff ''The responsibility to show up and do your job.'' - Texas Governor George W. Bush, reflecting on the values he learned as a Texas Air National Guard pilot during the Vietnam War era, in a 1998 interview with the National Guard Review. For Vice President Al Gore, the character issue is like chewing gum stuck to the sole of his shoe: Hardly a day passes without Republicans challenging Gore's character, especially his storied tendency to embellish facts. But Democrats are crying foul, saying that Bush has overstated his own record and with far less political consequence. Belatedly, they are calling attention to misleading claims Bush and his campaign have made about his Vietnam-era service as a fighter pilot with the Texas Air National Guard, and to documents that contradict Bush's insistence that he attended required drills in Alabama and Texas in 1972 and 1973. Five months after the Globe first reported those discrepancies, Bush's biography on his presidential campaign Web site remains unchanged, stating that he served as a pilot in the Texas Guard from 1968 to 1973. In fact, Bush only flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron at Ellington Field in Houston from June 1970 until April 1972. That month he ceased flying altogether, two years before his military commitment ended, an unusual step that has left some veteran fighter pilots puzzled. In Alabama, a group of Vietnam veterans recently offered a $1,000 reward for anyone who can verify Bush's claim that he performed service at a Montgomery air guard unit in 1972, when Bush was temporarily in Alabama working on a political campaign. So far, no one has come forward. The reward is now $3,500. What's more, a Bush campaign spokesman acknowledged last week that he knows of no witnesses who can attest to Bush's attendance at drills after he returned to Houston in late 1972 and before his early release from the Guard in September 1973. There is strong evidence that Bush performed no military service, as was required, when he moved from Houston to Alabama to work on a US Senate campaign from May to November 1972. There are no records of any service and the commanding officer of the unit Bush was assigned to said he never saw him. During Bush's Alabama sojourn, he was suspended from flight duty for not taking his annual flight physical. The Bush campaign's initial explanation for the lapse, it now admits, was wrong. Dan Bartlett, a Bush campaign spokesman, pointed to incomplete records - one a torn page without Bush's name or any discernible dates - as evidence that he did enough drills in Houston in the closing months of his service to satisfy military obligations. Major Thomas A. Deall, a spokesman for the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver, said last week that officials there now believe that after looking at Bush's records, he met minimum drill requirements before his discharge. Still, as the Globe reported in May, two documents and the recollections of officers who said they believe that Bush did not return to his Houston base after leaving for Alabama raise questions about whether Bush performed any duty between April 1972 and September 1973, the month Bush entered Harvard Business School. The result is that Bush's discharge was ''honorable.'' But, for understandable reasons, it is not a period of Bush's life he has called attention to. Other current and retired Air Force officers said Bush's military records are much like those of countless other Guardsmen at the time, when the federal government was reducing its force as the Vietnam War came to a close: guardsmen who lost interest in their units, and commanders who found it easier to muster them out than hold them to a commitment many made to avoid Vietnam. Jesse Brown, the former Veterans Affairs secretary who was seriously wounded while serving as a Marine in Vietnam, said he is irritated that Bush's military service lapses have not become part of the campaign debate. ''It goes right to the heart of the character issue,'' Brown said. ''If you served on active duty during that time, you knew that people went into the Guard and Reserves so they wouldn't have to put their asses on the line. But once they made that decision, they should honor the obligation, do their duty and do it well. Bush did not.'' Retorted Bartlett, Bush's spokesman: ''Jesse Brown served honorably, but you mean to tell me he has no problem with Bill Clinton's avoidance of military service?'' If Bush's lackadaisical approach to his six-year obligation has attracted scant attention, it could be for that reason: He is running to succeed a president who actively and successfully sought to avoid military service. Even
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: WORLD EXCLUSIVE
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X MON OCT 30, 2000 22:01:39 ET X TOP SECRETS REVEALED: MASSIVE DOCUMENT LEAK SHOWS 'CHINA THREAT'; NEW BOOK SAID DANGEROUS TO SECURITY **World Exclusive** [The book CHINA THREAT was ranked #11,705 on AMAZON.COM's sales list late Monday. Gertz's first book BETRAYAL was AMAZON's top-seller for the month of May 1999.] Impacting. News travels fast: I just looked at this book on the Amazon.com website (as of 4 p.m. Tuesday, Oct. 31) and it is now ranked as the number ONE seller on all of Amazon, the day before the book is actually released. Jenny Decker A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kids Say The Darnedest Things
-Caveat Lector- I knew there was a joke somewhere in Al Gore. ;) -- ´´ Mark McHugh ~~ via Undernews, 31OCT00 http://prorev.com/ JUST POLITICS MTV asked young Americans who Al Gore reminds them most of. For 11-12% each, the answers were my high school guidance counselor, my dad, and the captain of my school's debate team. Top response (54%): A traveling salesman. ` A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AF News 1 Nov 00
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 001637. Clinton signs authorization act; pay, TRICARE affected by Jim Garamone American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- A 3.7 percent military pay raise, TRICARE changes, military modernization and lifetime medical benefits are just some of the aspects of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 that President Clinton signed into law Oct. 30. The act gives DOD permission to spend an authorized overall budget of $309.9 billion. The fiscal 2001 appropriations act signed in August actually provided the money. The authorization act set total military fiscal 2001 end strength at 1,382,242. The Air Force's end strength is 357,000; the Army's, 480,000; the Navy's, 372,642; and the Marines', 172,600. The Selected Reserve end strength is 874,664 with the Air National Guard's set at 108,022 and the Air Force Reserve at 74,358. The Army National Guard's end strength is set at 350,526, the Army Reserve's 205,300 and the Naval Reserve's at 88,900. The Marine Corps Reserve will have 39,558 members and the Coast Guard Reserve, 8,000. End strength is down 3,190 from fiscal 2000 for the active force and up by 4,366 for the Selected Reserve. In addition to the 3.7 percent across-the-board pay raise that goes into effect Jan. 1, service members in pay grades E-5 to E-7 will receive a targeted, one-time monthly raise of $32 to $59 starting July 1. Congress has added funds to the basic allowance for housing to reduce out-of-pocket expenses service members must pay if they live off base. Currently, service members living off base pay an average of 19 percent of their housing costs out-of-pocket. The money will bring that average to 15 percent in fiscal 2001. The legislation authorizes the defense secretary to raise BAH rates to eliminate out-of-pocket expenses by fiscal 2005. The act extends the military housing privatization program. The program allows commercial firms to build and run military family housing areas. Another pay action calls for active and reserve military personnel to be able to use the Thrift Savings Plan. The plan, long a part of the Federal Employees Retirement System, would allow military personnel to invest a percentage of their pre-tax pay toward retirement. Taxes on participants' investments and earnings are deferred while in the plan. Details remain to be worked out, but the act calls for the system to be up and running 360 days after the president signs the legislation. The budget changes the TRICARE military medical system in several ways. For active-duty personnel, TRICARE Prime Remote now covers family members as well as active-duty personnel. The act also eliminates co-payments for active-duty family members enrolled in TRICARE Prime. It also allows travel reimbursements to those who must go more than 100 miles to see a TRICARE health-care provider. The biggest TRICARE change, however, covers Medicare-eligible retirees. The act restructures TRICARE to allow Medicare-eligible military retirees and their family members to continue their coverage beginning in fiscal 2002. Under the plan, Medicare-eligible beneficiaries would pay no co-pays, deductibles or TRICARE enrollment fees or premiums. Retirees can receive care under Medicare; also, any medical expense not covered by Medicare will be paid by TRICARE. The act also expands the mail-order pharmacy service to cover all beneficiaries, including Medicare-eligible retirees. The act authorizes $63.2 billion in procurement. The account, also called modernization, hits the $60 billion number Defense Secretary William S. Cohen called for in 1997. Big ticket items in procurement include 16 MV-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft, 12 C-17 strategic airlifters and 10 F-22 Raptor stealth aircraft. The act also funds $4 billion for a Nimitz-class carrier, $2.7 billion for three Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, $1.2 billion for a Virginia-class attack submarine and $1.5 billion for two San Antonio-class amphibious ships. The act funds Army transformation efforts to the tune of $1.3 billion in fiscal 2001. These efforts will result in a more mobile and more lethal force able to cover the range of operations the Army may face in the future. The act calls on the Army secretary to report to the Senate and House armed services committees with a "road map" charting the progress of the Army through 2012. The act authorizes the Army to procure medium-weight armored vehicles to test them against the transformation concept. The act provides $2.1 billion for the National Missile Defense program and $2.7 billion for Theater Missile Defense. TMD breaks down to $550 million for the Theater High-Altitude Missile Defense program, $462.7 million for the Navy Theater-Wide program, $274.2 million for the Navy Area Defense program, and $365.5 million to procure additional Patriot-3 missiles. The Joint Strike
[CTRL] WHY IS THERE SUDDENLY A TIGHT RACE?
-Caveat Lector- FREEDOM NOW NETWORK - October 31, 2000 WHY IS THERE SUDDENLY A TIGHT RACE? By Nelson "Skip" Foley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Editor of the RP (Reform Party) Monthly News Magazine - October 30, 2000 Bush is leading by 6% on Tuesday. On Wednesday Gore is up by 13% and on Thursday Bush is now up by 5%. The Week before Bush was down by 8% and the week before that Bush and Gore were in a virtual tie. And so on and so on and so on. So why would there be a plan for a tight race? It will do two things. Neither of them for the good of the country, just the good of the two parties and for that there needs to be just a bit of background. In 1992 there were 80+ million who watched the Presidential Debates where Perot was included. In 1996 without Perot there was more than half or around 45 million tuned in. As a result, in the 1996 race the number of people who voted of eligible voters almost hit the 50 million mark. And of the total vote 49.4 million by one TV news show, Perot had about 8% of the vote. Take that away from the 49.4 and you have around 45 million left. Clinton beat Dole by a 51%-49% margin or about 23 million votes. Not a very large amount for a president. Actually less than 24% of total voter registry. Neither excited the people. Perot got Reform party ballot access as a result. Oh! I almost forgot. This year it was down to around 35 million. Just a tad better than a sitcom ratings. Now, in the year 2000, the presidential race is plagued with a new side bar. The NEW WORLD ORDER is fast approaching. To some, it's already here and to others it has been here and its just about too late to do much about it. Enter Buchanan and the Reform Party. Although the actual 1996 exit polling didn't get much TV air time as it would blow the Republican "Wasted Vote" campaign, Perot drew about equally from both the R's and the D's and a good portion of the independent vote. Buchanan, representing the conservative segment of the population has drawn many people to his banner. Many of whom, I might add, would have not made the "likely voter" criteria in 1996 or 1992. As a result, the polling done has fairly well shown Buchanan with 1% or less across the nation. Contrary to these results, state polls are finding strong support for the America first message. He was successfully kept out of the debates and the convention, though smooth running, was reported by the press to be a 51%-49% split of the Reform Party, very far from the truth. It was very misleading and the stage was set for the close vote mentality of the Presidential Election. Any math whiz who sees the results each day and the fluctuations know the public is not swaying to this degree but in fact the samples used are of very poor quality. Then again, the samples may be of the highest quality but what is released is not. And that means they know that Buchanan has about enough votes to put the presidential decision into the hands of the congress. The purpose of the "close" race is to avoid this situation because if this happens, the mandate each president tries to extoll on is not there and the ability to ship bad legislation to congress to act on or veto good legislation because it hasn't got some bad legislation with it becomes more precarious to pass and the fear is if the mandate isn't there and the president to be tries to cram laws down our throats the American Public just might wake up. So a close race is what they need and want for the following two reasons. 1. By announcing a "close " race, they are placing doubt in both marginal Buchanan as well as marginal Nader voters. The idea of neither one being able to win will hopefully play on their minds and as a result, many will decide they can't risk their vote on either Buchanan or Nader. They are simply going against their core beliefs of who will be best and will cast a vote for the lesser of the two evils. Thus, they will, through this strategy take away from the third and fourth parties to keep them low on the totem poll. 2. As importantly, they are conditioning the American public to not be surprised with the low turnout for Buchanan and Nader. This is due the fact the local polls don't lie but at least the vote count can be manipulated. Ask yourself a question. Why is NH in the undecided category? Why can't they do an investment to determine just what will happen on election day? Why is NH so different than the other 49 states? It is simply because NH counts their votes by hand. They don't rely on high tech equipment like computers and they have witnesses when the votes are counted leaving little doubt who wins in a given election location and no chance to lie to the public about it. But what about the other 49 states? They use computers in most cases. In Maine, it is against the law at this point in time to hand count ballots unless a recount is called. In order to call a recount, the differences between the winner and loser must
[CTRL] Fw: Y chromosome nearly decoded
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[CTRL] Dengue FEVER
-Caveat Lector- This is yet another disease carried by mosquitoes. Speaking of insects, this region is sprayed with an orange variety of ladybugs to kill aphids. Now it is proposed to spray "tiny flies" to eradicate fire ants. I suppose this is better than pesticide but I am beginning to wonder how many bugs can be tolerated. The ladybugs form colonies of thousands in some homes, garages, etc. Wouldn't these "friendly" insects be a perfect medium if someone wished to spread disease! Had eight ladybugs walking across my ceiling when I awoke this morning. Amelia Today's Top Stories AP Wire News Associated Press Texas Wire News U.S. Gulf Coast cities at risk for dengue fever epidemic, researcher says mlgmg Eds: AMs. By MARY LEE GRANT= Associated Press Writer= HOUSTON (AP) - Thanks to a damp climate and proximity to the Caribbean and Mexico, the Gulf Coast states are threatened with an epidemic of dengue fever, a potentially deadly mosquito-borne illness common in many developing countries, a public health researcher said Monday. ``It has become a problem in all the Gulf Coast states, particularly in warm, wet urban areas like Houston, Miami and New Orleans,'' said Frank Cortez-Flores, a researcher at California's Loma Linda University School of Public Health. There are four varieties of the dengue fever virus, and no vaccine for any of them, Cortez-Flores said Monday at the American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene annual meeting in Houston. The mildest form is characterized by flu-like symptoms and a rash on the feet or legs. About half die who contract the most serious form, dengue hemorrhagic fever, he said. The disease is among the leading causes of childhood death in Thailand, Indonesia, Bangladesh, the Philippines and India, he said. Cortez-Flores said Texas, where several outbreaks were reported in the 1990s, has the most cases in the nation in part because of poor hygiene, sewer systems and water drainage in its 1,500 colonias, substandard settlements along the border where about 400,000 people live. He said many people have had a mild form of dengue fever but are unaware of it, mistaking it for the flu. They remain carriers for life and if bit by a mosquito can spread the disease. ``Mosquitos are flying syringes, and mosquito control measures are the backbone of dengue prevention and control,'' he said. One Texas man died in July of dengue hemorrhagic fever, the first in the state to die this year from the disease. He is thought to have contracted the disease in Bangladesh. Last December, a South Texas girl died from the fever, which state health officials believe she contracted in Mexico. Last year, there were 51 cases confirmed by the state health department, 16 in South Texas. Other cases are believed to have been contracted in Brazil or Mexico, where about 7,000 dengue cases were reported in northern Mexico in 1999. The last major epidemic in Florida was in 1935, when 15,000 Miami-area residents were infected. Since then, fewer than 100 cases have been reported because of mosquito eradication programs. Florida public health officials, however, have said they fear an increase in cases because the disease is prevalent in the Caribbean and because of a large influx of international travelers to the state. Although nearly eradicated in the 1960s, the Aedes aegypti mosquito that carries the disease is now abundant in North and South America and the Caribbean and lives year-round in South Texas, Cortez-Flores said. Increased air travel to tropical countries, urbanization, global warming and more tropical storms in recent years led to a rise in the number outbreaks in the Western Hemisphere, he said.
Re: [CTRL] Infallible Sectarianism
-Caveat Lector- Yeah. Religious intolerance--right. Now let me see, what is the religious "tolerance" record of these poor victimized Protestants? I believe George Dubya Bush--a God fearing Prostestant (How do I know? Why, I've heard him say so ad nauseum!!)--has IN THIS CAMPAIGN called Wicca, which is a religion officially acknowledged and sanctioned within the United States and its military (they even have Wiccan chaplains) to be an "abomination" that should be "eradicated." Those dear Protestants under their wonderful first head, Henry VIII, continued the Inquisitional practices of the Catholic Church (which they professed to abhore) by using "witchcraft" as a bandaid charge for rounding up perceived political enemies and burning them at the stake. The German Lutheran Church encouraged the incarceration and destruction of the Jews in Nazi Germany. So did the Catholic Church, but the Catholic Church has publically apologized and atoned for this stance, whereas the Lutheran Church silently ignores their own connivance in the Holocaust. It was PROTESTANTS in New England who, having loftily pronounced their own victimization in England, merrily proceeded to imprison, torture and execute all suspected dissidents to its own religious mandates. Check any history on the Puritans' treatment of Quakers, Anglicans, and Catholics. And perceived political agitators, of course (preserving the practices of Dear Olde England which they had spat upon when they left)--just think of the religious tolerance exhibited by that pious and benevolent Protestant, Rev. Cotton Mather! Yeah--call them a witch and then torture them for the good of their soul!!! Also consult the Puritan treatment and murder of Native Americans under the pretext that native American religion was "Devil worship." Of course this is what they still say about Wicca--the more things change, the more they remain the same. Let's not leave out the Christian fundamentalists (Prostestants all!) in this country who, although a small minority, have worked to seize control of the Republican Party and to attempt to dictate BY LAW the behavior of Americans according to their own narrow, zealous ideas of what is "godly," which includes belligerently unrestrained human reproduction but obviously does not include respect or preservation for the planet they expect those children to live on. The Pope just controls the Church--the Fundies are working hard to seize control of the biggest secular government in the world. It's about time that Protestants learned to stopped their judgemental condemnations of gay people, Jewish people, pagans, Buddhists, and anyone else whose spirituality is individual and real. The mote in their own eye is pretty damned obvious, don'tcha think?--and needs all of their attention. The Protestant Church in general can only benefit from a healthy dose of "religious discrimination" directed against itself, since it's apparently unable to learn what's "wrong" with dishing it out, except by being a target of it. Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: "NSA" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:34 PM Subject: [CTRL] Infallible Sectarianism -Caveat Lector- Infallible Sectarianism "There is no mistake so great as that of being always right." Samuel Butler (1835-1902): Notebooks. Professor Arthur Noble The Pope's ecumenical dupes got a rude shock on September 5 when his self-styled 'infallible Holiness', in an official document called Dominus Iesus, questioned the validity of Protestant Churches and instructed his bishops not to use the term 'sister churches' with reference to them. The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has now arrogantly pronounced that henceforth non-Roman-Catholics are to be designated as "ecclesial communities" with "defects". It declares that churches that lack a "valid Episcopate [bishops] and the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic mystery are not churches in the proper sense"; and a Vatican letter to bishops, released the same week, calls for Protestants to be "evangelised". The American Crosswalk News site summed it up in the headline: "Protestants are not our equals, says the Vatican." It was on a par with Hitler's comments about the Jews. The chief ingredient of this latest outrageous pronouncement by the Roman impostor is nothing short of blatant sectarianism a predictable complement to the flagrant racism of his beatification of Pius IX. Once again, the congenital religious intolerance behind the mask of the Church of Rome's smiling ecumenism has been exposed: her doctrinal fascism renders her hypocritically guilty of the very accusation that she is so fond of levelling against those who refuse to bow the knee to her theological drivel. George Carey, the spiritual leader of the world's 70 million Anglicans and hitherto a loud and pathetic parrot of the Pope, has expressed his "dismay". No
