[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] McVeigh reveals details of Oklahoma blast (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread Amelia

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There is a movie entitled "The Sleep Room" being shown on TV
currently on the Lifetime channel about MK-Ultra.  It is a
combination of a previously aired mini-series on the LSD
experimentation by Drs. Cameron, Gottleibe and Lashbrooker.
Seemed factual from what I know of it.
Amelia
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 --- Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  McVeigh reveals details of Oklahoma blast
  By Ellen Wulfhorst
  NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oklahoma City bomber
  Timothy McVeigh says he always expected to be
  caught, convicted and executed...
  In prison, he became acquainted with Unabomber
  Ted Kaczynski, and the book contains a letter in
  which Kaczynski said he liked McVeigh but found
  the Murrah bombing "unnecessarily inhumane."
  Copyright © 2001 Reuters Limited.
 ___
 BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP)
 "While being held in a federal high-security prison,
 McVeigh met Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski, who told
 authors Lou Michel and Dan Herbeck he found
 McVeigh likable  "
 ___
 Nakano comments:
 It's interesting and perhaps more than coincidence
 that Ted Kaczynski, (aka the "Unabomber") and
 Tim McVeigh would meet and find something "likable"
 in each other.
 Ted Kaczynski was a brilliant young math and science
 student at Harvard when he was sucked into the
 dark and dangerous world of the CIA's MKULTRA
 mind control experiments. There is scant little
 information about what happened to him during
 that time. What is know, is that he underwent a
 profound personality change. After graduation, he
 moved on to teach at Berkley California, but he
 became more and more withdrawn and isolated from
 regular society. Finally he chose to live alone in
 near isolation and write about his anti-techno-society
 viewsand occasionally put bombs in the mail.
 As a young man, his life held so much promise.
 But something happened to that young man, something
 that warped him in a terrible way.

 Consider the early years of Tim McVeigh
 and his outstanding record in the U.S. Army.
 Then something happened. Something changed him.
 He family, friends, and co-workers have spoken
 about this in interviews.  Tim went through the
 same sort of personality change as Ted Kaczynski.
 Perhaps they sensed this about each other.
 Perhaps that's why they became friends of a sort.

 My own instincts tell me these two men are both
 victims of very dark forces.

  Nakano

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Kin Predicts China Will Overtake U.S.

2001-04-07 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Bush Kin Predicts China Will Overtake U.S.

 President Bush's uncle, Prescott S. Bush Jr., predicts that Communist China
 will supplant the United States as the world's No. 1 economic power within
 the next half-century.

 Prescott currently serves as chairman of the U.S.-China Chamber of Commerce.
 In a letter to prospective members, he wrote:

 "China has a special place in my heart. I have been personally involved in
 China for over 15 years. My brother, George [the former president] has been
 instrumental in the development of U.S. and China relations since 1974. 

And our corporations are moving the majority of their operations over there
to prove him right.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread c.

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 A more current example is the U.K. where are lawfully owned firearms were
 confiscated by the government.

this is untrue- handguns have always been outlawed- but a few years ago
after the mass school killing by hamilton new rules regarding sports pistols
and their clips were introduced.

easy as pie to get a shotgun though

 Violent crime, which was supposted to decline,
 has increased.

this is untrue too! the above rules did not contribute to statistics in any
way- the amount of those guns and the way they are/ were used has never had
an impact on crime in any way. it is not similar to the american situation
at all.

The bad guys

the government you mean? ;)

 are using surpus military firearms from the
 Balkans and the police are thinking about arming themselves for the first
 time in their history.

lets face it- the police have been thinking (read wishing dreamily) about it
for, like, ever... but don't you know that we *do* have regularly armed
police patrols already?  have done for years...



 Bill H

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Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 4/7/01 2:03:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 this is untrue- handguns have always been outlawed- but a few years ago

after the mass school killing by hamilton new rules regarding sports pistols

and their clips were introduced.

 

Was the mass school killing by Hamilton done with a sports pistol or was it
done with a rifle?

this is untrue too! the above rules did not contribute to statistics in any

way- the amount of those guns and the way they are/ were used has never had

an impact on crime in any way. it is not similar to the american situation

at all.

The question still remains, has the U.K. experieced an increase in violent
crime? Would the presence of a sporting/hunting firearm have been a deterent
to the criminal?
A WorldNetDaily release, dated 2 March 2001 references Jack Straw, the U.K.
Home Secretary as admitting that, "The percentage of the population that
suffered contact crime in England and Wales was 3.6 percent compared to 1.9
percent in the United States, with 0.4 percent in Japan."

The bad guys


the government you mean? ;)

Only if they are the bad guys.

Didn't know that there are armed U.K. Police patrols. Haven't seen any of
them.
But what about the import of surplus military weapons into the U.K.?

Bill H.

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Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread c.

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 Was the mass school killing by Hamilton done with a sports pistol or was
it
 done with a rifle?

2 x browning 9mm - used for the killings- 56 shots , no reloads (28 round
clips?- is that right? he deinately didn't reload and he only used the
brownings... i know very little about gun specs- but do they really take 28
round clips?)

2 x smith  wesson .357. one used to top himself afterward.

http://www.official-documents.co.uk/document/scottish/dunblane/duncntnt.htm


 The question still remains, has the U.K. experieced an increase in violent
 crime?
Would the presence of a sporting/hunting firearm have been a deterent
 to the criminal?

no it wouldn't deter. the level of the contact crime is not the same as in
the US- firearm crimes are rare as the ability to purchase firearms is
limited to the higher level criminals and terrorist groups. in america there
is a good chance that a burglar will be armed with a gun- in the UK the same
burglar would not be armed- or if he was it would be a cosh or a blade.
to have guns circulating would change this- it would raise the level both in
the criminal and in the householder. in the US there is an ever increasing
internal arms race going on.


 A WorldNetDaily release, dated 2 March 2001 references Jack Straw, the
U.K.
 Home Secretary as admitting that, "The percentage of the population that
 suffered contact crime in England and Wales was 3.6 percent compared to
1.9
 percent in the United States, with 0.4 percent in Japan."

the example above shows how weak, or blurry these stats are- you cannot
compare the UK and the US - being burgled by an unarmed assailant and being
burgled by an armed assaillant are both contact crimes- but the level in
each country is different. the chance of death is very much increased when
guns are involved as oipposed to any other weapon.


 Didn't know that there are armed U.K. Police patrols. Haven't seen any of
 them.

in all the major cities there are mobile armed response teams. they are
permanently armed and actively patrolling. in the old days there were no
regular armed teams on the streets- except for northern ireland.

 But what about the import of surplus military weapons into the U.K.?

mostly going to terrorist groups- it is no surprise that the increase in
particularly ex-military weapons coincides with a rearming by the dissident
republican groups in ireland.



 Bill H.

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Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won

2001-04-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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  Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this.  You better
  believe that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON

 Can't believe any self-respecting collie would take the time to essentially
 defend a Bush either!!!

I can't believe that anyone is wasting time arguing about who won and who lost, when 
the real loser is the
American public.  What SHOULD be discussed is why we are no longer given a real CHOICE 
when it comes to voting
for the person to become President of the Republic; what SHOULD be discussed is why 
the candidates we are
given are merely flip sides of the same coin.

Scratch beneath the surface of ANY candidate, and you will find spooky and 
questionable bloodlines and
heritage


June

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[CTRL] Theroux on Ronson

2001-04-07 Thread Kelly

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Stranger than fiction

Are 12ft lizards running the world? Louis Theroux investigates Them:
Adventures with Extremists by Jon Ronson

Saturday April 7, 2001
The Guardian

Them: Adventures with Extremists
Jon Ronson
352pp, Picador, 16.99

There is a version of history that holds that the world is secretly run
by a shadowy cabal of predominantly Jewish international financiers and
politicians who meet several times a year to decide which wars to start,
which countries to bankrupt, which gun-owners to oppress, and so on.
This view, which has been around at least since the late 19th century,
when it was popularised in a hugely influential piece of anti-semitic
propaganda, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion , exists in various
versions - with "Jews" occasionally being replaced by "Bilderbergers",
"New World Order", "Illuminati" or "12ft lizard creatures". Though
undoubtedly nutty, its paranoid and exciting "top secret" flavour has
meant it continues to appeal to a motley crew of self-styled
"researchers" and evangelists on the fringes of society, including Ku
Klux Klansmen, militias, certain fundamentalist Muslims and an
ex-Coventry goalkeeper called David Icke.

For Them: Adventures with Extremists, reporter and documentary
film-maker Jon Ronson spent several years in the company of a few of
these fringe-dwellers, in an attempt to understand their mindset and to
see to what - if any - extent their fears were founded in fact. The
resulting book is a funny and compulsively readable picaresque adventure
through a paranoid shadow world, with Ronson playing Sancho Panza to a
cast of obsessives.

Ronson has a deft, ironic touch and a brilliant way with scene-setting
and direct speech - much of the action is so neat and pacy it reads
almost like a novel - and it is one of the book's great merits that it
never takes itself too seriously. Conspiracy investigators tend to be
incompetent and petty in direct proportion to the delusional grandeur of
their ambitions, something Ronson is not slow to pick up on. "I KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE UP TO!" one investigator screams at his colleague. "Make a
big show of shouting down the phone! Steal the limelight! And then Jon
will write about you !"

In one of the book's funniest chapters, Ronson accompanies an
ultra-right-wing conspiracy investigator named Big Jim Tucker as he
attempts to infiltrate a meeting of the Bilderberg Group (a semi-secret
council of international industrialists and statesmen, and a favourite
bugbear of the paranoid fringe). They end up being chased by
scary-looking security personnel in dark glasses and Ronson panics,
trying to get the British Embassy to rescue him. "I am essentially a
humorous journalist," he pleads down the phone. "I am a humorous
journalist out of my depth."

But Ronson also has a point to make about the way beliefs in general
tend to demonise "them", where "them" might be diabolical Jews, 12ft
lizards, or indeed the weirdos who believe in diabolical Jews and 12ft
lizards.

Exhibit A in the fringe-dwellers' case for the existence of a shadowy
all-powerful cabal is the true-life story of the Weavers, a family with
admittedly far-out religious views who, yes, consorted with neo-Nazis
and who moved to the remotest corner of northern Idaho to be as far as
possible from the "Zionist Occupational Government". Vicki Weaver and
her son Sammy were shot in cold blood by federal marshals in a
paramilitary-style raid.

Conspiracy theorists have ever since argued that this is proof that the
world is indeed run by a secret oligarchy; Ronson's compelling case is
that what happened was made possible because the Weavers were repeatedly
described in the media as "white supremacists" and therefore in some way
worthy of extermination.

Another chapter examines the strange history of David Icke, the
footballer turned BBC commentator turned Green Party spokesman turned
self-proclaimed son of God. Ronson finds Icke on a lecture tour of
Canada, pursuing his new calling as an investigator of the secret elite
of lizard shape-shifters (the Queen and Ted Heath are among those under
suspicion) who run the world. Icke's "theory" is basically The Protocols
of the Elders of Zion with a new cast and a few script changes. Not
surprisingly, Icke has come under suspicion of anti-semitism; as his
tour progresses he finds his readings heavily picketed and his radio
interviews cancelled. Icke vehemently repudiates the accusations, and
reading Ronson's account it is difficult not
to conclude that, while we are right to be on our guard against paranoid
anti-semitism, we should also be on our guard against the paranoid
excesses of anti-anti-semitism. Not only might it be unfair to Icke, but
by implying that he is so dangerous that he has to be censored, the
watchdogs are giving a patina of seriousness to ideas that are - let's
face it - very, very silly.

As the book progresses, what emerges is the degree to which the
real-life Bilderberg Group and the researchers who 

Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won

2001-04-07 Thread Nessie

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It doesn't matter who won or how. The president is a puppet. The
government is a front. The real power is the corporations. They control
the money supply, the food supply, the fuel supply, the land, the
buildings, most means of communications, and the government.

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"The current crisis in China hasn't changed Bill Clinton's plan to speak at a 
Fortune magazine conference in Hong Kong next month. The New York Post's 
Deborah Orin reports that when Clinton spokeswoman Julia Payne was 'asked why 
Clinton won't simply rule out speaking in China if the 24 U.S. airmen aren't 
freed before then,' she said the question was 'too much of a hypothetical.'"

- "Best of the Web," 4/5/01


Once a Loud-mouthed Blowhard, Always a Loud-mouthed Blowhard

"They elected the symbol of Ebonics to the presidency of this nation. There 
ain't no brother in Oakland, or anywhere else, that would run the phrase or 
mix up the words the way this cat does. It raises serious questions about 
whether he's really white."

- San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown on President Bush


Once a Stupid Jackass, Always a Stupid Jackass

"At a New York forum designed to 'improve dialogue between Jews and blacks,' 
Al Sharpton lashes out against his interlocutor, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, 
accusing him of 'petty back-biting.'  The Jerusalem Post reports:  'Sharpton 
went on to compare George W. Bush's electoral college victory in Florida to 
Hitler's Final Solution.  'The reality is that Hitler in his wickedness and 
evil burned 

[CTRL] How it's done: Buying Drug Endorsements

2001-04-07 Thread Nurev Ind.

-Caveat Lector-

Buying Drug Endorsements
CBS News

Drug Companies Write Drug Reviews And Pay Doctors To Sign Them
Signed Reviews Are Then Published In Medical Journals
Mentions In Respected Journals Are Highly Sought After

http://cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,284228-412,00.shtml#top

WASHINGTON, April 5, 2001

(CBS) Amidst the billion-dollar competition to create the newest
blockbuster
drug, there's one thing worth more than all the ads money can buy: a single
positive mention in a respected medical journal. Doctors rely so heavily on
what's printed in journals, it directly affects a drug's success or
failure.

Now, many drug companies are actually writing those articles, then paying
doctors to sign their names to them. It's called ghostwriting, reports CBS
News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

"The articles are written by drug company researchers, given to an outside
doctor to review and sign his or her name to and then submitted to a
journal. In effect, it's like washing dirty money," explained Douglas
Peters, a medical malpractice attorney.

It's not illegal, but it can be misleading.

Critics say that's just what happened when Wyeth-Ayerst wanted to create a
market demand for its "fen-phen" diet drug, Redux.

Wyeth hired a middleman, a company called Excerpta Medica, to write and get
published nine medical journal articles on Redux. Excerpta paid doctors to
review and sign the articles, then submitted them to journals with no
mention of Wyeth. Excerpta claims it told the doctors that Wyeth was behind
all of it.

But Dr. Richard Atkinson, a professor of Medicine and Nutritional Sciences
and the director of the Beers-Murphy Clinical Nutrition Center, Univ of
Wisconsin Madison Medical School, says he wasn't told. He reviewed and
signed one of those Redux papers, thinking Excerpta was an independent
researcher.

"If I knew that a drug company had some role, whatever role, in sponsoring
a
talk, an article, a symposium whatever, I think I would be more on my guard
to make sure that there was not any bias introduced."

Biased literature can make a drug sound better or safer than it really is.
And unbeknownst to most doctors, it's even finding its way into the most
respected medical journals.

Dr. Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine,
says she was getting more and more ghostwritten papers from medical school
doctors.

"A drug company that controls the data and has a ghostwriter writing the
paper may neglect to write about the side effects of a drug."

In a deposition on January 15, 1999, former Wyeth executive Jo Alene Dolan
said all drug companies ghostwrite, but it doesn't mean the articles aren't
accurate.

When questioned about Dr. Atkinson's article, she said, "Apparently we
wrote
this article for him." She was then asked if it was bought and paid for by
Wyeth-Ayerst and replied, "I'm not sure that's the way I would characterize
it. It was funded by Wyeth-Ayerst."

Yet Wyeth's middleman, Excerpta Medica, claims it doesn't ghostwrite; it
"facilitates," that doctors always know about drug industry involvement and
"the author has final editing authority."

Dr. Atkinson did tell Excerpta that article may make Redux "sound better
than it really is" and suggested some changes. But before the article could
be published, Redux was linked to heart and lung problems and pulled from
the market.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Cause Effect in the Energy Crisis -- Grasp the Logic

2001-04-07 Thread Kris Millegan





Beware the increasingly desperate acts of Capitalists once their
oppressed victims --we the people-- start catching them with their pants down.


SAN FRANCISCO, April 3 (Reuters) - The California Public Utilities Commission
on Tuesday approved orders to investigate the financial relationships between
the state's near bankrupt utilities and their parent companies.

The order on the financial links between PGE Corp PCG.N and its Pacific
Gas and Electric unit, and Edison International EIX.N and its Southern
California Edison subsidiary, will set up public hearings on relationships
and the transfer of money between the utilities and their parent companies.


PGE SCRUTINIZED FOR TRANSFER OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

by Nick Driver, San Francisco Examiner, April 4, 2001

 ... At a California Public Utilities Commission meeting in San Francisco
... Commission members were in an aggressive mood ... voting unanimously to
begin investigating billions of dollars in possibly illegal money transfers
between utilities and their parent holding companies.

 PGE Corp. and Edison International are accused of profiting by
transferring cash away from their subsidiary utilities instead of allowing
them to use it to buy power.

 "This order to investigate is not meant to be accusatory, but we need to
investigate in order to justify this rate hike," said Commissioner Geoffrey
Brown.

 If the allegations are proven, the holding companies would be forced to
REPAY [TO CONSUMERS] part of the $14 BILLION they racked up since December ...


Calif.'s Davis says PGE "dishonored" itself

SAN DIEGO, April 6 (Reuters) - California Gov. Gray Davis, rocked by the
bankruptcy filing of Pacific Gas  Electric, angrily declared that the giant
utility had "dishonored itself" Friday by asking for court protection.

"Pacific Gas  Electric Co. has dishonored itself. This action was
unnecessary. They've caused undue alarm," Davis said in San Diego as news of
the bankruptcy filing ratcheted up the state's escalating energy crisis.

"PGE was not pushed into bankruptcy," Davis said.  "They plunged themselves
into bankruptcy for their own strategic advantage -- not the best interests
of the people of California," Davis said.

 ... Pacific Gas  Electric, the state's largest investor-owned utility,
filed for Chapter 11 protection from creditors Friday after declaring that
talks with Davis over a possible bail-out strategy had reached a standstill.

The bombshell announcement came just one day after Davis outlined a strategy
he said would help the cash-strapped utility back to its feet after months of
hemorrhaging cash because of California's botched 1996 power deregulation
law.

Davis' plan includes raising consumer rates by an average 26.5 percent as
well as negotiating to buy the utilities' share of the state's massive power
transmission grid -- a move which could funnel billions of dollars into their
empty coffers.

In its filing Friday, Pacific Gas  Electric, a unit of PGE Corp. indicated
this was not enough, saying it had been forced to rack up almost $9 billion
of back debts because California's 1996 power deregulation law has prevented
it from passing along skyrocketing wholesale costs to its customers. The
parent company has not filed for protection from creditors.

PGE Corp. Chairman Bob Glynn said the utility had decided to turn to the
court after watching Davis devote himself to negotiations with Southern
California Edison while ignoring Pacific Gas  Electric's increasingly dire
predicament.  "The negotiations we have been involved in since last November
are going nowhere," . Glynn said.

"It's a real slap in the face to the people of California," Davis said of the
bankruptcy filing, adding that he had used equally tough language with PGE's
Glynn to communicate his disappointment.


[Cartoon in SF Examiner, March 30, 2001, by T. Borromeo:
 Four grinning Fat Cat capitalists --one a Texaan in Stetson hat-- in a
room.  One is reading from a book whose cover says "OPEC 1973 Playback,"
while the other three are standing at a blackboard, chalk in hand.  On the
blackboard is already written:
 1. Cut supply
 2. Rake in cash
 3. Blame consumers
 The Texan cheerfully asks, "OK, what's next?"]


FTC Finds No "Conspiracy" in Midwest Gas Spike

WASHINGTON, March 30 (AP) -- Some energy producers withheld supplies of
gasoline to maximize profits, but there is no evidence that companies
conspired to raise gas prices last summer, the Federal Trade Commission has
concluded.

In a final report being released today, the FTC said that a variety of
factors, including many beyond the control of producers and marketers, were
PARTLY responsible for gasoline prices soaring beyond $2 a gallon in parts of
the Midwest last summer.

STILL, the FTC report said that "CONSCIOUS but 'independent' choices" by
market participants, to maximize profits, ALSO played a significant role in
the price spike ...

The agency was asked last year to 

[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] Nancy Davies on Votes and Drugs in Oaxaca

2001-04-07 Thread Kris Millegan






April 7, 2001
Special to the Narco News Bulletin

Dear Colleagues,

Narco News is proud to publish a report from Nancy Davies:

"VOTES AND DRUGS IN OAXACA"

"OAXACA CITY, OAXACA, MEXICO; APRIL 2, 2001: The long arched 
colonnade in front of the Oaxaca state government building is paved 
with stone. Demonstrations and encampments are daily events. Today a 
man with arms outstretched posed on a wooden cross, mounted above a 
crowd of more than a hundred people from his town.

"Miguel Felipe Santiago Velazquez from the small town of Santiago 
Yaitepec vowed that he will remain there, day and night, until the 
government redresses the wrongs he and his people have suffered. "We 
are crucified," he said..."

Full story at:

http://www.narconews.com/davies2.html

From somewhere in a country called Amrica,

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[CTRL] Fwd: Christian Support for Wicca (Long)

2001-04-07 Thread Kris Millegan





Subject: Christian Support for Wicca (Long)
From:"Dee Kellogg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 MM All,
  The following came from:
http://www.wicca.com/celtic/wicca/christian.htm. The reason I am posting
the whole thing, instead of just the link, is that some of you may be as
lazy as me about clicking on links in your email. Not a put down!! I
never would have seen this if a friend of mine hadn't called me and read
it to me over the phone. I thought it was fascinating and all I can say
is, "Its about time! Too bad more of them don't think this way!!" What I
find so interesting is that he uses actual Biblical passages to SUPPORT
Wicca! How often do you see a CHRISTIAN do that? Anyways, I hope you all
enjoy it as much as I did.

  BB-
  Dee

  A Christian Speaks of Wicca and Witchcraft
  by James Clement Taylor

--



  I am a Christian and not a Wiccan. A Christian is one who has been
baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and who has
made a personal, free-will decision to commit himself and all his or her
life to our Lord and God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Both of these things
are true of me. I am a member of St. Mary's Eastern Orthodox Church,
Calhan, Colorado. In this paper, I am not speaking as agent for any
church, but I am, entirely on my own responsibility, speaking the truth
in love, as we Christians are supposed to do.

  A Situation of Strife and Shame:

  There are many Christians today who believe that anyone who is not
a Christian is doomed to an eternity of suffering in hell. Any decent
person, believing this, would be compelled to try to save as many people
from this fate as possible. But is this belief correct? Jesus Christ,
having noted the faith and righteousness of a Roman centurion, a Pagan,
proclaimed:

  "Assuredly I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not
even in Israel! And I say to you that many will come from east and west,
and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But
the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will
be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 8:10-12)

  If we accept these words as true, and surely we should, then it is
clear that heaven will contain many who are not Christians, and hell will
contain many who are! Clearly, throughout the Gospels, Jesus Christ sets
forth the criteria for entrance into the kingdom of heaven, and those
criteria include love, kindness, forgiveness, and a refusal to judge
others:

  "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will
also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither
will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15)

  "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the
same measure you use, it will be measured back to you." (Matthew 7:2)

  "But go and learn what this means: `I desire mercy and not
sacrifice.'" (Matthew 9:13)

  "Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. Judge
not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be
condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." (Luke 6:36-38)

  Is it not clear? Anyone who fails in these things, will calling
himself a Christian save him? Anyone who obeys God in these things, will
being unbaptized condemn him? Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to Me,
`Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will
of My Father in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)

  Yet it is not by good works that we earn our way into heaven,
because there is no way we can earn the free gift of God's mercy and
grace, which alone can save us. But it is clear that it is not by faith,
in the sense of sharing the Christian faith, that we are saved, either.
The faith which saves us is not faith in the goodness of our works, nor
faith that we have the right theology and/or belong to the right church.
Rather, it is faith in God, and in His mercy:

  "So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of
God who has mercy." (Romans 9:16)

  But the Wiccans, you will say, do not have faith in God. Yet by
their own theology, they certainly do. Those who call them
Satan-worshippers are entirely wrong. They do not worship Satan, or even
believe that Satan exists. Instead, they worship a Goddess and a God whom
they understand as manifestations of a higher and unknown Deity.

  Now if you are a Christian, this will sound familiar to you, and it
should. In the Bible we find the following:

  "Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, `Men of
Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; for as I
was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even
found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, The
One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you" (Acts
17:22-23)

  The 

Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

-Caveat Lector-

UK set he standards along with USA for both are begoming cess
pools..note under Blair and Clinton, etc. and incude Canada they are
importing animals across the lines - and wait till England gets their
quota of Africans with AIDS only admitted?

So this is Mrs  Clinton's salad bowl, once called the melting pot - only
now it is becoming the garbage bowl as written by Emma Lazaras on the
Statute of Liber - might add Lazaras family Zionist CFR stuff around
here..so we get refuse from shores and none from Europe.

You see the enemy now dumps its garbage on our shores - rapists, black
Africans with AIDS and animal instincts like Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton..

Gradually under Bush it is hoped 17 million illegal immigrants will be
sent back to their own countries

Might be nice to let these people know what a cess pool American and UK
is becoming under Blair and Clinton..who as serial killers.

Does anybody really believe the sale of AIDS/HIV blood to Canada and
then to England and Ireland sold by Clinton was an Accident?

So let all those black folk praise Hill and Bill - this is how they got
control ...one nice thing, most Hispanics I have seen are clean,
Catholic, higher type peoplethe poor you have with you always and
this will be the white race under Clinton for the white race is being
leveled - masonic stuff, only whose masonic order?


But a good guess would be like Hansel and Gretal, or preparing a goose
for dinner - or cattle - the prize cattle are fed well, and then comes
the slaughter - just as Hansel and Gretal were well fed and nourished
for later they would have been a sumptuous dinner for an old witch who
probably looked like Hilliary Clinton?

Find out who really controls the Press in America and why we have
permitted garbage like Moris Dees and this ADl dictate to this country

My bloodline goes to ancient Kings and Quees an these bastards would
mingle white blood with blood of savages - might make nice work horses,
but I prefer to keep my great grandchildren thorobreds?   Who wants kids
that look like Whoopie Goldberg and a Benson running around thinking he
knows more than his masters?

Even Phi Beta Kappa now admits dumheads as tokensthey need a new
name.
saba

Colin Powell - the perfect man - white, yellow, and blacklooks like
real Manchurian Candidate...but who does he serve?   Is this the
black rose alchemists have longed for to as the Joint Chief of Staff
promoted - to absorbe the black race you come up with black rainbow?

I always loved pink.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Jews - The Last Passover?

2001-04-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

Beware of those who say they are Jews and are not-- John 8


To which could be added You Shall Know the Truth and he Truth Shall Make
you mad (Huxley).

Add up children slaughtered in Balkens, Palestine, Waco, Iraq and you
find the Clinton Master Plan for extermination as ADL produced
hit lists for FBI and KGB - see Waco die, see Palestinians die, and see
Iraqis die?

Then remember in America how Clinton lined with the Jesse Jacksons, Al
Sharpton with the ADL and Dees putting Christian America and Moslems and
Militias on their Hate Lists for FBI extermination?

Have a feeling when the Arab Nation wakes up, it would be well to be
aligned with our present enemies for with Israel I always remember USS
Liberty and our dead boys and wounded being napalmed by Israeli planes
for which we paid?

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 http://www.MiddleEast.Org/video.htm

"Is this the last Passover that I will celebrate?
 My heart is not in the celebration this year.
 And it can never be again until freedom for Jews
 is also freedom for Palestinians."

MID-EAST REALITIES  - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 4/07:
For many Israel has usurpsed and sullied the very word "Jewish", calling
itself as it does a "Jewish State".  And in the US, still the largest community
of Jews in the world, the "Israeli/Jewish lobby" and the big national Jewish
organizations have done much the same, alienating many Jews from their own and
causing many non-Jews, especially Arabs and Muslims, to shun and distrust nearly
all persons who are "Jewish", even though many of the most outspoken voices of
serious and principled dissent against Israeli policies have been and are Jewish
-- Rodinson, Chomsky, Falk, Ben-Veniste, Shahak, Flapan, Morris, Schlaim, and
so many others.
Passover, which begins today, is a Jewish celebration of "liberation" and
"freedom".  And yet most Jews around the world will attend their sedars without
a serious appreciation of how at this time in history it is they themselves who
have created a neo-Apartheid situation in the once Holy Land, complete with ghettos,
pogroms, racism, and militarism -- a situation which indeed can be sadly and
tragically compared to those who oppressed the Jewish people at other times in
history.
This article by Professor Marc Ellis is very timely, even if actually considerably
restrained in view of what is quite literally happening at the moment.  And the
unique video documentaries WE DARE TO SPEAK and PALESTINIAN STATEHOOD - made
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 THE LAST PASSOVER
   Marc H. Ellis

This weeks Jews all over the world Jews celebrate Passover, the ancient festival
commemorating the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt.  The narrative of liberation
is read within the context of food and fellowship.  As Jews we are commanded
to place ourselves in the original struggle to be free, to experience the suffering
and hope of the ancient Israelites as they did, to see this ancient liberation
as our own.  Despite the plagues and death, the wanderings in the desert and
 admonishments of God, Passover is a festive holiday.  Food and wine is plentiful.
 Family and friends come together.

How we celebrate our freedom in the past with the complexities of the present
is always a challenge.  Over time as Jews became free, struggles of other peoples
were mentioned in the Seder meal.  As a child being raised in the 1950's and
60's, at Passover we incorporated the civil rights struggle into our narrative.
 In the 1980's and 90's there were specific Passover narratives featuring the
struggle of women, freedom movements in Central America and elsewhere.  And in
some Jewish homes and synagogues,
Palestinians were featured as a people struggling for liberation.There is
hope in remembrance applied to the present.  If we are there in Egypt demanding
our freedom, the Passover story accompanies us as we demand freedom now.  Freedom
is interdependent, across time and community boundaries.  No one is truly free
if others are not also free.

Today with Israeli gunships daily firing rockets into defenseless Palestinian
towns, cities and refugee camps, it is difficult to accept the Passover narrative
in 

[CTRL] Are E-mails from Coleen/Saba contagious? j2

2001-04-07 Thread Nurev Ind.

-Caveat Lector-

Subject:
 Study Points to 'Mad Cow' Blood Risk for Humans
Date:
 Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:09:07 -0500 (CDT)

Friday April 6 2:32 PM ET

By Greg Frost

PARIS (Reuters) - Monkeys can contract mad cow disease if it is injected
into their bloodstream, underscoring that infected tissue risks
transmitting
the brain-wasting illness to humans, researchers said on Friday.

French scientist Corinne Ida Lasmezas said that she and a team of French
and
British scientists proved that the agent that causes mad cow disease, or
bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE ), can be passed from one primate to
another intravenously.

She warned, however, that the study had not proven that vCJD can be passed
to humans through the blood supply.

``Everything depends on the amount of the infectious agent in blood -- we
don't know if there is enough in human blood to infect another human,'' she
said.

The team's research, published last week in the U.S. journal Proceedings of
the National Academy of Sciences, dealt with the behavior of prions -- the
distorted proteins blamed for causing BSE and its human equivalent, new
variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (news - web sites) (vCJD) -- in primates.

``We wanted to better understand the behavior of the BSE agent in primates
to have an idea of the risk that vCJD poses in humans,'' Lasmezas told
Reuters in a telephone interview.

``Effectively, this is the first time BSE has been passed between primates
via blood,'' she said.

She said the study had also shown that the BSE prions become more virulent
to primates after they have replicated in primates. They would lie dormant
for less time when passed from one primate to another than when they cross
from cattle to primates.

Sick Monkeys

In the study, Lasmezas and her team first infected macaque monkeys by
taking
concentrated samples of the mad cow agent from brains of infected humans
and
cattle and injecting them directly into the monkeys' brains.

They then took samples from the infected monkeys' brains and injected them
into the brains of healthy monkeys. They also took samples from the brains
of sick monkeys and injected them into the veins of other, healthy monkeys.

The researchers found that all monkeys that were injected with the agent --
either into the bloodstream or into the brain directly -- became sick with
the fatal disease.

More importantly, however, the scientists found that the BSE agent lies
dormant for a shorter period of time once it adapts to primates. ``This
means that once the agent has adapted to primates, it's more virulent for
another primate,'' she said.

Prions have puzzled scientists since they were discovered. Normally present
in the brain and other tissue of mammals, they can take on an abnormally
folded form that causes the brain to become spongy and eventually wither.

It is generally thought that prions can propagate, clump up and cause
disease without the use of any kind of genetic material at all, unlike
viruses, bacteria and parasites.

They are blamed for a range of diseases known as transmissible spongiform
encephalopathies that include BSE in cattle and vCJD in humans.

At least 85 people in Britain and two in France have died from vCJD.

Because neither the incubation period for vCJD in humans nor the dose
required to infect humans is known, scientists do not know how many more
people may be infected by the agent.

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Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread c.

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 My bloodline goes to ancient Kings and Quees
snip lots more...


in the spirit of homeopathy i suggest ingesting a good half pound of
psylocibe mushrooms, aleisha, so that you can focus a little better on what
the fuck is going on outside of your own sweet self for a change.

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: Fwd: THIS MADE ME MAD AS HELL AND IT WILL YOU TOO!!!]

2001-04-07 Thread Tenorlove

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Most of the article is complete B.S., but the NRA is no better. They
are too busy compromising with the gun grabbers to protect people's
right to defend themselves.

Tenorlove


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[CTRL] A Nation of Bensons

2001-04-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

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'Well how you going to get silk purse out of sows ear?Or hogs ear?
They teach ethics in schools first maybe we can avoid more
Clintons..we have dumb kidis, look to test the teachers first, then
the kids.Princess Diana taught kindergarten and her students
probably knew more than she did.

My three year olds could read a lot and talk a lot and phonics seemed to
be why?  Kids can also learn from TV without the help of a college
gradulate who teaches kindergarten for it is nic to have teachers who
know more than their students?


So this is end result of NEA, the Teacher's Union.maybe too some
of these teachers those who speak English findit difficult to undertand
a language other than English for we are a nation of English speaking
citizens in order to gain admittance to USA or has that been changed?

So Clinton was not onafide Rhodes Scholar; it was given to him by
Fulbright and he was at Oxford only two yearshe was a hand picked
chosen one who made pact with  devil, broke pact, and ended up in his
own personal hell with Lewinsky in Garden of Sodom, not
Rosespizza and Ecstacy compliments of the Mossad and KGB?

Saba   (he does well selling snake oil)




April 7, 2001

Gap Between Best and Worst Widens on U.S. Reading Test

By KATE ZERNIKE

Join a Discussion on Standardized Testing

Your Child's Education
esults of nationwide fourth-grade reading tests released yesterday show
a widening gap between the very best students and the very worst despite
a decadelong emphasis on lifting the achievement of all students.

From 1992 to 2000, the average reading scores for fourth graders on the
National Assessment of Educational Progress, known as the nation's
report card, remained flat. The average score for top students increased
while the average score for bottom students declined even more
significantly.

The release of the scores led to a round of finger-pointing over the
cause of the growing gap.

Kati Haycock, director of the Education Trust, a nonprofit group that
advocates for disadvantaged students, said the numbers nspoke of "a
frightening sort of educational Darwinism," adding, "It would appear
that in a deeply misguided response to demands for higher achievement,
schools are focusing their efforts and resources on those students most
likely to succeed while neglecting the students who most need help."

Others said the problem was that teachers had failed to learn the best
ways to teach reading.

Two-thirds of students tested fell below the level the federal
government considers proficient, and 37 percent fell below even basic
knowledge of reading, meaning they could read little beyond simple words
and sentences and could not draw conclusions from what they read.

The gap between the very top and the very bottom levels widened in all
racial and ethnic groups. The wide gap that has received the most
attention in recent years — between black and white students —
remained about the same.


Federal education officials called the scores disturbing and a sign that
education colleges were not imparting the latest ways to teach reading.
National reports show plenty of evidence about the best methods, they
said, but in the field, educators are still warring between whole
language and phonics, and the proven methods are not filtering down to
those who need them most. The best method, several researchers and
national panels have said, is neither pure whole language nor pure
phonics but more of a hybrid, which would emphasize teaching children to
decode the meaning of words.

"Although we talk about reform, not all the classrooms of America are
seeing this reform," said Marilyn Whirry, a teacher in California and a
member of the National Assessment Governing Board, which oversees the
test.

This latest administration of the test, which is generally considered
the most accurate measure of student progress, was ordered by the
Clinton administration amid concern about a need to increase the number
of students who can read by the end of third grade. That is when
classroom priorities flip: students stop learning how to read and begin
needing to read to learn other subjects.

The test was taken by a representative sample of 8,000 students in 40
states. It required students to read passages from books and magazines
fourth graders might read. Students answered multiple choice questions
and wrote answers that varied in length from a paragraph to a page.

The Department of Education reports the scores on a scale of 0 to 500
and by achievement levels: below basic, basic, proficient or advanced.
The average score in 2000 was 217, the same as in 1992. The average
scores of students in the bottom level dropped 7 points, to 163 from
170, and the scores in the top level rose to 264 from 261. In both cases
the changes, while small, were statistically significant, said Gary W.
Phillips, the acting commissioner for the department's National Center
for Education Statistics.

The 

[CTRL] ...but not if you read Nurev.

2001-04-07 Thread Nurev Ind.

-Caveat Lector-

http://www.citypaper.com/2001-04-04/feature.html

News Hole
The Stories You Probably Didn't Read All About Last Year
By Gabriel Roth

The stock market went down, then up, then down again. Survivor's ratings
went
up, and up, and up. And for weeks it was impossible to tell whether George
W.
Bush or Al Gore was on top.   Gabriel Roth is senior editor for the San
Francisco Bay Guardian, which originated this article. The book Censored
2001: The Years Top 25 Censored Stories (Seven Stories Press, $17.95) is
due
to be published April 18.

And the mainstream media never averted its gaze for an instant, afraid to
miss a single bump or dip. Meanwhile, out of the frame, two trends remained
constant: Big corporations and the government continued to put profits
first
and people second--and people continued to fight back. But you wouldn't
know
that if you got your information exclusively from daily papers and TV news.
Some of the stories you missed: The bombing of the Chinese embassy in the
former Yugoslavia may not have been an accident. The United States could
have
stopped genocide in Rwanda. An independent study found that genetically
modified foods cause serious health problems in rats. And multinational
companies are fighting to commodify the world's water supply.


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If you read Nurev, not only would you know about these
stories, but you would know about them IN DEPTH.

Modestly,
Nurev

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[CTRL] Stardust We Are

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1262000/1262216.stm



Thursday, 5 April, 2001, 15:08 GMT 16:08
UK

 Comets could have seeded life on Earth

By BBC News Online science editor Dr David Whitehouse By simulating a
high-velocity comet collision with the Earth, a team of scientists has shown
that organic molecules hitch-hiking aboard a comet could have survived an
impact and seeded life on Earth.

The results add weight to the theory that the raw materials for life came
from space.

 "Our results suggest that the notion of organic compounds coming from outer
space can't be ruled out because of the severity of the impact event," said
Jennifer Blank of the University of California, Berkeley.

 Blank and her colleagues presented their findings at the national meeting of
the American Chemical Society in San Diego.

 New science

The researchers shot a can-sized bullet on to a coin-sized metal target
containing a droplet of water mixed with amino acids, the building blocks of
proteins.

To date, more than seventy varieties of amino acids have been found in
meteorites and some in interstellar dust and gas clouds.

 It was observed that not only did a good fraction of the amino acids survive
the collision, many had been polymerised into chains of two, three and four
amino acids, so-called peptides, the first stage of building proteins.

 What is more, freezing the target to mimic an icy comet actually increased
the survival rate of the amino acids.

 Oblique impact

 The test was designed to simulate the type of impact that would have been
frequent during Earth's early history, some four billion years ago, when
rocky, icy debris in our Solar System accumulated to form planets.

 During this violent time, much of the debris would have resembled comets -
dirty snowballs thought to be mostly slushy water surrounding a rocky core -
slamming into Earth at velocities greater than 25 km per second (16 miles per
second).

 The severity of the laboratory test was equivalent to an oblique collision
with the rocky surface of the Earth - a comet coming in at an angle of less
than 25 degrees from the horizon, rather than head on (perpendicular to the
Earth's surface).

 "At very low angles, we think that some water-ice from the comet would
remain intact as a liquid puddle concentrated with organic molecules, ideal
for the development of life," Blank said.

 "This impact scenario provides the three ingredients believed necessary for
life: liquid water, organic material and energy," she added.

Though it has been estimated that in Earth's early history only a few percent
of comets or asteroids arrived at low enough angles, the bombardment would
have been heavy enough to deliver a significant amount of intact organic
material and water, Blank said.

 The next hitch-hikers she plans to subject to a shock test are bacterial
spores, which some have proposed arrived on Earth via comets to jump-start
evolution.





Re: [CTRL] Our Problems ...

2001-04-07 Thread Nurev Ind.

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  ( Rotten ) Food for Thought

   In light of the recent shooting in California, let's
   see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare
   complained she didn't  want any prayer in our
   schools, and we said OK.

That was a good thing. I don't want my children brainwashed
with superstitious drivel.

 Then someone said you'd
   better not read the Bible in school

That was good too. Practice your superstitions at home. I
don't want my kids exposed to this stuff.

 the Bible
   that says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
   and love your neighbor as yourself.  And we said,
   OK.

You didn't say ok. You fought it tooth and nail and lost.


   Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our
   children when they misbehave because their little
   personalities would be warped and we might damage
   their self-esteem.  And we said, an expert should
   know what he's talking about so we said OK, we won't
   spank them anymore.

On the other hand, if children are disrespectful of their
parents, we should stone them to death as is instructed in
the Bible.


   Then someone said teachers and principals better not
   discipline our children when they misbehave.

This is bullshit! WHO said this?

 And
   the school administrators said no faculty member
   in this school better touch a student when they
   misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity,
   and we surely don't want to be sued.  (There's a big
   difference between disciplining and touching,
   beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.)
   And we accepted their reasoning.

No stranger better beat my child. I'd break their arms.


   Then someone said, let's let our daughters have
   abortions if they want, and they won't even have
   to tell their parents.

That someone is the feminists. It's a huge mistake. It never
should have happened, and should be changed. Parents are the
ones ultimately responsible for the well being of their children.
If young girls are unfortunate enough to be born into a family
of religious anti abortionists... so it goes.

 And we said that's a grand
   idea.  Then some wise school board member said,
   since boys will be boys and they're going to do
   it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they
   want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and
   we won't have to tell their parents they got them
   at school.  And we said that's another great idea.

That IS a great idea.


   Then some of our top elected officials said it
   doesn't matter what we do in private as long as
   we do our jobs.  And, agreeing with them, we said
   it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the
   President, does in private as long as I have a job
   and the economy is good.

Not that important.


   And then someone said let's print magazines with
   pictures of nude women and call it wholesome,
   down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the
   female body.  And we said we have no problem with
   that. And someone else took that appreciation a
   step further and published pictures of nude children
   and then stepped further still by making them
   available on the Internet.  And we said
   they're entitled to their free speech.

How come you religionists have so many problems with sex?


   And the entertainment industry said; let's make TV
   shows and movies that promote profanity, violence,
   and illicit sex.

Because they are copying the success of the most popular
book ever written. The Bible.

 And let's record music that
   encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic
   themes.  And we said it's just entertainment,
   it has no adverse effect, and nobody takes it
   seriously anyway, so go right ahead.

I agree with you here.


   Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no
   conscience, why they don't know right from wrong,
   and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers,
   their classmates, and themselves.  Probably, if
   we think about it long and hard enough, we can
   figure it out.  I think it has a great deal to
   do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

So if you don't like it, get rid of the capitalist system
that drives the whole scummy thing.


   Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and
   then wonder why the world's going to hell.

God has nothing to do with it. It's money. It's the system
that says everything is permissible if you make a profit.
There is no god, but there is such a system.


   Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but
   question what the Bible says.

They are both full of nonsense.

   Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided
   they do not have to believe, think, say, or do
   anything the Bible says.

I don't want to go to heaven. Where exactly is heaven anyway?


   Funny, how someone can say, "I believe in God"
   but still follow Satan who, by the way, also
   "believes" in God.  Funny, how we are quick to
   judge, but not to be judged.

So are you saying... do 

[CTRL] There's hope for Colleen/Saba after all. Thank you Robert White.

2001-04-07 Thread Nurev Ind.

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I think that a replacement head from a monkey would greatly improve
Saba's IQ.

Science is a glorious thing when put to humanitarian use.

J2
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 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1263000/1263758.stm

 A controversial operation to transplant the
   whole head of a monkey onto a different body
   has proved a partial success.

   The scientist behind it wants to do the same
   thing to humans, but other members of the
   scientific community have condemned the
   experiments as "grotesque".

   Professor Robert White, from Cleveland Ohio,
   transplanted a whole monkey's head onto
   another monkey's body, and the animal
   survived for some time after the operation.

   The professor told the BBC's Today programme
   how he believes the operation is the next step
   in the transplant world.

   And he raised the possibility that it could be
   used to treat people paralysed and unable to
   use their limbs, and whose bodies, rather than
   their brains, were diseased.

   "People are dying today
   who, if they had body
   transplants, in the
   spinal injury community
   would remain alive."

   He said that in the
   experiment, his team
   had been able to:
   "transplant the brain as a separate organ into
   an intact animal and maintain it in a viable, or
   living situation for many days."

   He added: "We've been able to retain the brain
   in the skull, and in the head."

   That, he said meant the monkey was
   conscious, and that it could see, hear, taste
   and smell because the nerves were left intact
   in the head.

   He admitted that it could appear "grotesque",
   but said there had been ethical considerations
   throughout the history of organ transplants.

   "At each stage - kidney, heart, liver and so
   forth - ethical considerations have been
   considered, especially with the heart, which
   was a major, major problem for many people
   and scientists.

   "And the brain, because of its uniqueness
   poses a major, major ethical issue as far as the
   public and even the profession is concerned."

   'Scientifically misleading'

   The arguments against head and brain
   transplants were outlined by Dr Stephen Rose,
   director of brain and behavioural research at
   the Open University.

   He said: "This is medical technology run
   completely mad and out of all proportion to
   what's needed.

   "It's entirely misleading to suggest that a head
   transplant or a brain transplant is actually
   really still connected in anything except in
   terms of blood stream to the body to which it
   has been transplanted.

   "It's not controlling or relating to that body in
   any other sort of way."

   He added: "It's scientifically misleading,
   technically irrelevant and scientifically
   irrelevant, and apart from anything else a
   grotesque breach of any ethical consideration."

   "It's a mystification to call it either a head
   transplant or a brain transplant.

   "All you're doing is keeping a severed head
   alive in terms of the circulation from another
   animal. It's not connected in any nervous
   sense."

   The issue of who someone who had received a
   head transplant would "be" is extremely
   complicated, said Professor Rose.

   "Your person is largely embodied but not
   entirely in your brain".

   He added: "I cannot see any medical grounds
   for doing this. I cannot see that scientifically
   you would actually be able to regenerate the
   nerves which could produce that sort of
   control.

   "And I think that the experiments are the sort
   that are wholly unethical and inappropriate for
   any possible reason."

   He added that the way to help the quadriplegic
   community was to work on research to help
   spinal nerves regenerate.


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Re: [CTRL] There's hope for Colleen/Saba after all. Thank you Robert White.

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
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I think that a replacement head from a monkey would greatly improve
Saba's IQ.

Science is a glorious thing when put to humanitarian use.

LMFAO



[CTRL] My Favorite Witch

2001-04-07 Thread Aleisha Saba


Here is a real witch - MI6, trained by Ian Flemiong...my old friend
- she sent me Christmas Cards and  sent her Halloween Cards.she knew
Sir ArthurConan Doyle and lived in New Forest, when child she knew H.G.
Wellsfor great minds travel in same circles.

Some witch - she died in October of 1981.before she left all her
property involvng research, etc., and also my bible code/calendar ws
sent to Prime Minister for she was still in service.some say she
hooked up to MKUltra, but she knew about the implants behind ears of
some Jonestown victims shortly after it happened, and told me that this
Mark Lane was CIA lawyer of worst possible type - but then, he had just
been involved with Larry Flynt when he was crippled for life - he was
new kid on block (heavey drug struff coming in then).

so she lived in New Forest and used to stay at Heathcliff House when she
went back for visit; when she got big windfall and big bucks, she always
sent portion to masonic burn units, for she remember many of the witches
and Knights burnt at stake?

she once sent me a brass rubbing from tomb of Knight Templar and said
note that dog at his feet.no longer can you make these rubbings, but
this was some gift she sent from Ireland to me.

So this was a good witch - this God Bu$ine$$ of today makes me long for
the Return of the Warlocks and Witches .and one must remember it was
Endor the Witch who raised the body of Samuel was it?

On must be born a witch - this Hollywood stuff is disgusting for like
Crowley, Sybil Leek was intelligensia..a little onion planed at Coca
Beach and Melborne Beach Florida but good witch of the West?

So who invented witches?   The same guy who invented Adam and Eve..

For God was an Englishman and it took a German to publish hs words in
prntas it is writte in the bible The Lord Gave the Word and Great
was the Company that publshed it ---that CIA sre got around.

So when you think of psychics and witches, thin of othe little princess
of Wales and Reagan and Nancy Reagan, for Sybil was astrologer to Kings
and Queens and one President.

Saba

Nice to see Sybil remember this April 2001 - Holzer wanted her back and
wanted her to forget the assassnation crapshe was my friend for
12 years.


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 Tuesday, December 02, 1997
An Irishman's Diary
By John Connolly

It's not something of which everyone is aware, but the Renvyle House
Hotel in Co Galway has a resident ghost. In fact, depending on your
ability to suspend disbelief, it may have more than one ghost.

Renvyle, the former home of the Gogarty family, has a colourful history.
Burned down by Republican sympathisers in the early part of the century
and subsequently rebuilt, its guests have included W.B. Yeats, who
stayed there as a guest of Oliver St John Gogarty and conducted a number
of seances on the premises; at one time he believed himself to be in
contact with the ghost of a dead child.

Subsequently, guests complained of a presence in Room 27 of the Renvyle
House Hotel; one female guest testified that she was watched by the
spectral figure of a man while putting on her make-up. I know all this
because Hans Holzer said so and he should know. Holzer, a New Yorkbased
ghost-hunter, arrived in Ireland in 1965 to write a study of Irish
spectres, eventually published under the title

The Lively Ghosts of Ireland.
Oirish rope

The degree to which one can take Holzer seriously - this is a man who
once wrote a book called Ghosts I've Met - is roughly equivalent to the
amount of Oirish rope which one is willing to give him before he hangs
himself. "I had been told that the Irish are just naturally prone to the
supernatural, from leprechauns to ghosts, and I would have a field day
the moment I set foot on the Ould Sod," writes Holzer, in the tone of a
man just looking to be beaten up as he walks the streets of Limerick
looking for leprechauns, which he once did.

Holzer did not arrive in Ireland alone. He brought with him a lady
called Sybil Leek, a British psychic whose role was to sniff out the
spirits with her other-worldly nose. To those who believe in such
matters, Ms Leek was an individual of extraordinary psychic sensitivity,
a woman in touch with other worlds, other planes of existence. Anyway,
Holzer and Leek stayed in Renvyle and, in the course of his stay, Holzer
decided that the ghost in Room 27 might well be Yeats, on the grounds
that both Yeats and the spectre were tall men and Yeats, "being a man of
great inquisitiveness, was just the type to stay on even after death."
(One would have hoped, however, that he was not the type to skulk around
in lady's bedrooms watching them undress or apply their make-up. He
always looked a bit too 

[CTRL] U.S. SUSPECTS WORLD NOT PUTTING U.S. INTERESTS FIRST

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.satirewire.com/news/0103/usfirst.shtml



U.S. SUSPECTS WORLD NOT PUTTING U.S. INTERESTS FIRST
International Community Denies Charges, Insist They Mean "U.S." When They Say 
"World"
 
Washington, D.C. (SatireWire.com) — In a stinging accusation, the U.S. today 
charged other nations with taking a narrow-minded "world view" and 
deliberately failing to consider U.S. economic interests above individual 
international concerns. World leaders immediately denied the charges, calling 
the U.S. allegations, "paranoid delusions of non-grandeur." 


"They can deny it, but from carbon dioxide emissions to Internet privacy 
standards, these internationals appear to be taking a rather myopic 'world 
view,' instead of stepping back and looking at the broader American economic 
view," said U.S President George W. Bush. "These people have to recognize 
that there is an entire United States community out there beyond their 
borders." 

If this troubling trend continues, Bush warned, the United States will be 
forced to "take its ball and go home." Asked exactly what ball he was 
referring to, Bush replied: "It's big and blue and we all live on it." 


While evidence supporting the allegations appears to be damning, world 
leaders insisted the United States has misunderstood. On the tiny Pacific 
atoll of Kiribati, which is threatened by rising seas, government official 
Baranika Etuati insisted his recent remark to Reuters that, 'It is a terrible 
economic problem, it is our very survival," referred to U.S. economy. "What 
else would I be referring to?" he asked bewilderingly.

 
British Environment Minister Michael Meacher, meanwhile, said the 
idea that Europe would not consider the U.S. economy above all was absurd. 
"Naturally, when we want to protect consumers or deal with the environment or 
stop wars, we first ask ourselves, 'How will our decisions impact suffering 
American business interests?'" 


U.S. officials, however, greeted those comments with suspicion, noting that 
few world leaders' public comments mention this consideration.

 
"That's because it's a given," replied Japanese Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori. 
"It's like when you love someone. You don't always have to say it. You just 
know." 

--

-
WHITE HOUSE EVIDENCE: 
· International politicians and the media have blasted the U.S. for 
abandoning the Kyoto global warming treaty, despite the fact that the U.S. 
has explained the treaty would not be good for the U.S. economy. 
· The European Union has yet to lower its stricter Internet privacy 
standards, even though the U.S. has pointed out that these standards could 
hurt American businesses. 
· Several countries, including India, are encouraging their skilled high tech 
workers to stay home and not emigrate to the United States, ignoring the fact 
that the United States "could probably use them." 


[CTRL] LewRockwell.com -- China is right.

2001-04-07 Thread Nurev Ind.

-Caveat Lector-

China Is Right
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/chinaisright.html

by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

The US government has flipped its lid on this China spy plane mess. So have
many commentators who are refusing to come to terms with some very obvious
facts. Once you blow away the fog, you can see that if anyone should be
protesting right now, it is American citizens against their own government.

Number one: the collision between the US spy plane and the Chinese jet
occurred along China€™s border. Think about that and you can understand
why
China is so unhappy.

Now, the US claims it was in "international airspace," but backs up this
claim with a rule arrived at unilaterally by the US government and accepted
by no one else. The US makes up rules to justify its behavior, rules that
US
does not accept if applied against US territory.

The space where the collision occurred is normally used to facilitate
commerce, not hostile military activities. But in US foreign policy, there
is
a presumption that the whole world is a playground for the US government to
do what it wants.

Number two: the US plane was a spy plane. Say it three times: it was a spy
plane. It was not a commercial airliner. Hence it is preposterous for the
US
to say that a spy plane landing in Chinese territory is somehow sovereign
property. The international law on this subject applies to civil aviation.

The US spy plane was seeking to intercept communications and rip off
information for US military advantage, probably at the behest of China€™s
unfriendly neighbors. This makes it an aggressor against China, just as the
US considers any attempt to spy on us to be an aggression and evidence of
hostility.

Number three: the US spy plane landed at a Chinese military airport. The US
crew never asked permission to do so. Imagine what the US would do if a
Chinese spy plane were zipping around outside Virginia, became entangled
with
US jets, and then landed at a US base. The US would not say: "Sorry, guys,
about interrupting your spy mission. Thanks for visiting our military base
and come back soon."

Number four: the Chinese pilot is dead. The US crew is not. Also still dead
are the three Chinese journalists who died when the US bombed the Chinese
Embassy in Yugoslavia in 1999. No US soldiers died in that incident either.
The carnage is beginning to mount, and, no surprise, that at some point the
Chinese decide they€™re not going to take it anymore. How long can one
country
be subjected to murderous attacks from the US before it begins to complain?
But if they do complain, this is decried in the US as "nationalism."

Number five: there is no mystery about how the US treats such cases. In
1976,
a Soviet MIG carrying a defector landed in Japan. The Soviets demanded the
plane back. The US complied after taking the entire thing apart. It was
sent
back to Moscow in packing crates.

On another occasion in the 1970s, the US secretly tried to raise a Soviet
submarine from the ocean. We use any means possible to obtain military
equipment from potentially hostile nations. So turnabout is fair play.

Number Six: the US spy plane was not an innocent victim. No one can say for
sure how the collision occurred, but it seems obvious that the US version
of
events €“ a spy plane minding its own business gets bumped by a Chinese
jet €“
isn€™t true. This was a case of the kind of cat-and-mouse that cars play
on
highways all the time.

If it turns out that the US is wholly to blame, it wouldn€™t be the first
time. A couple of years ago, American fighter pilots cut ski cables in
Italy,
killing 20 civilians with their recklessness. And just recently, show-offs
and goof-offs cruising the world in a submarine sunk a Japanese school
boat,
killing nine, four of whom were 17-year-old kids.

Number Seven: the US has fulminated for years about supposed spying by
China
against the US. Remember the Cox Report? For all of its bluster, it never
went so far as to accuse China of flying spy planes around our borders. But
it turns out that the US regards such activity as routine and justifiable,
if
directed against other countries.

The message is obvious: the US can do whatever it wants with its military,
but believes itself exempt from the very laws it wants to apply to others.
This attitude engenders hatred around the world.

Though no one in the US cares to remember, the Chinese have not forgotten
the
US role in the so-called Opium Wars. In this 19th-century drug war,
military
force was used to addict the Chinese to drugs so as to create customers for
opium. Nor have they forgotten the Boxer Rebellion, when US troops €“ in
pursuit of continuing economic control €“ burned and looted the ancient
imperial compound. Nor, to take more recent examples, have they forgotten
the
US threatening them twice in the 1950s with nuclear annihilation for
responding to huge Taiwanese troop movements to the islands of Quemoy and
Matsu near the mainland.

To say there are double 

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Chemtrails Confirmed by FAA

2001-04-07 Thread John Cone

-Caveat Lector-

--- DIG alfred webre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A senior FAA source has just confirmed that massive
 chemtrail activity over the US east coast on March
 12 was the result of a military operation.
The initial FAA disclosure came on March 12, as mass
aerial maneuvers  saturated northeastern U.S. skies
with Xs, circular patterns and parallel lines
characteristic of chemtrail activity reported by
pilots, police  officers and former military personnel
across the United States.
_

Nakano comments:
On a beautiful clear day back in the spring of 1996,
I was making a trip to the store with my 4 year
old daughter.  As we stepped out of the house,
little Carolyn looked up at the sky and pointed.
"Look daddy...tic-tac-toe in the sky!"
In the past 5 years I have seen this many times and
have even taken pictures of those thick and
threatening
chemtrails that can turn a clear blue sky into
a cloudy day..and much worse.
We all owe William Thomas a debt of gratitude for
his work and tireless effort to expose this
on-going crime in our skies.
Nakano
___


 FAA Confirms Mil Op -Chemtrails East
(47/F/Houston, TX)  4/3/01 5:44 pm

A senior FAA source has just confirmed that massive
chemtrail activity over the US east coast on March 12
was the result of a military operation.

 FAA CONFIRMS ONGOING MILITARY OPERATION OVER U.S.
EAST COAST -
PORTLAND, ME
 -- An FAA official in charge of air traffic control
over the northeastern United States has confirmed an
ongoing military operation in Americas skies.
 In an exclusive taped interview with freelance radio
reporter S. T. Brendt,
 the Air Traffic Control (ATC)manager said he was told
on as many as four  occasions in March, 2001 to
re-route commercial air traffic around military
 aircraft taking part in an undisclosed aerial
operation over the northeastern  seaboard.

 On her way to the interview location, Brendt observed
six big jets laying  brilliant white lines above a
broken cloud layer. Instead of dissipating
like  normal condensation trails, these lingering
plumes grew wider and wider,  intersecting and
merging.

 Speaking on condition of strict anonymity as intense
chemtrail activity  continued overhead, this Deep Sky
federal aviation source expressed concern
 over the classified nature of military operations
repeatedly conducted at  altitudes between 37,000 and
40,000 feet. While air traffic controllers
 normally ignore air traffic above 10,000 feet, the
ATC manager said he was  ordered to divert incoming
European air traffic away from the military
planes.

 When asked why, he said, I was told there was a
military exercise in the  area. Of course, they
wouldn't give me any of the particulars.

 The initial FAA disclosure came on March 12, as mass
aerial maneuvers  saturated northeastern U.S. skies
with Xs, circular patterns and parallel lines
characteristic of chemtrail activity reported by
pilots, police  officers and former military personnel
across the United States.


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Re: [CTRL] ass't resources on hersha book, abuse and symptomology, olson

2001-04-07 Thread Smart News

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Dear List,

Please find these resources below.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

These may be heavy for survivors of abuse to read. 



Cheryl Hersha's (co-author of "Secret Weapons - Two Sisters' Terrifying True 
Story of Sex, Spies and Sabotage" by Cheryl and Lynn Hersha with Dale 
Griffis, Ph D. and Ted Schwartz. New Horizon Press, P O Box 669 Far Hills, NJ 
07931 - ISBN 0-88282-196-2) response to: "Secret Weapons: Whitewashing CIA 
Mind Control Atrocities," by Uri Dowbenko is at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psnews/message/302

Early sexual abuse and low cortisol.  King JA, Mandansky D, King S, Fletcher 
KE, Brewer J Psychiatry Clin Neurosci 2001 Feb; 55(1):71-4 - " Post-traumatic 
stress disorder (PTSD) is a mental health disorder precipitated by a 
stressful event that produces fear or terror in the individual. 
Post-traumatic stress disorder studies, particularly in  early sexual abuse, 
have been associated with neuroendocrine dysfunction, most notably the 
hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axisThe present study shows that 
subjects who had been abused within the last couple of months had 
significantly lower cortisol in comparison to control subjects...The data 
suggest that children may have an impaired HPA axis after early trauma."

What Did the C.I.A. Do to Eric Olson's Father? - by Michael Ignatieff - "for 
a quarter of a century, a close friend of mine, a Harvard classmate, has 
believed that the Central Intelligence Agency murdered his father, a United 
States government scientist. On June 11, 1975, The Washington Post 
revealed that a commission led by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller had 
discovered that "a civilian employee of the Department of the Army 
unwittingly took LSD as part of a Central Intelligence Agency test" and 
"developed serious side effects."" 
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/01/magazine/01OLSON.html?ex=987215818ei=1en=7

90

The Olson File - A secret that could destroy the CIA - by Kevin Dowling and 
Phillip Knightley - "in 1975 the Rockefeller Commission, ...to examine the 
extent of the CIA‚s illegal domestic operations, revealed that an unnamed 
army scientist had died after CIA experts, experimenting with mind-bending 
drugs, had secretly slipped him a dose of potent LSD. During the ensuing 
uproar, the scientist was identified as Frank OlsonCIA director, William 
Colby, held a lunch for Mrs Olson and Eric in his office at the CIA, 
apologised and gave them the CIA file on the case. According to the file, 
Olson had suffered a "chemically-induced psychotic flashback" a week after he 
had been slipped the dose of LSD. So a CIA doctor, Richard Lashbrook, had 
been deputed to look after Olson until he was normal again." The article 
discusses alternative theories to Olson's death to the one commonly known. 
http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Articles/LondonMail.html

Rorschach correlates of sexual abuse: Trauma content and aggression indexes. 
Kamphuis JH, Kugeares SL, Finn SE J Pers Assess Oct 75(2):212-224, 2000 
"clients with definite sexual abuse scored significantly higher than clients 
known not to be sexually abused on J. G. Armstrong and R. J. Loewenstein's 
(1990) Trauma Content index (TC/R)...Although TC/R was strongly associated 
with the presence and severity of sexual abuse, it could not discriminate 
sexually abused from nonsexually abused clients with great accuracy. The TC/R 
score is one factor among many that can be used to assess the validity of 
clients' claims of past sexual abuse."  

Child sexual abuse and later disordered eating: A New Zealand epidemiological 
study. Romans SE, Gendall KA, Martin JL, Mullen PE Int J Eat Disord 2001 May; 
29(4):380-92 "CSA women with ED (CSA+ED) were compared with CSA women without 
ED (CSA-noED) and with CSA women with anxiety and/or depression (psychiatric 
comparison group). RESULTS: Higher rates of EDs in women who have experienced 
CSA were confirmed in this study."

Child sexual abuse as a predictor of psychiatric co-morbidity and its 
implications for drug and alcohol treatment. Jarvis TJ, Copeland J Drug  
Alcohol Dependence 1997 Dec 49(1):61-69, 1997 "Explores the association 
between child sexual abuse (CSA) and psychological co-morbidity among 180 
women (aged 16-69 yrs) receiving
either drug and alcohol treatment or CSA counselingResults show that Ss 
reported elevated levels of anxiety, somatisation, and dissociation but not 
depression. Higher rates of self-harm, eating disorders and sexual 
dysfunction were also reported by CSA survivors. Women with a history of both 
CSA and substance abuse were more likely to have attempted suicide than other 
women."

Childhood sexual abuse and bulimic behavior in a nationally representative 
sample. Wonderlich SA, Wilsnack RW, Wilsnack SC, Harris TR Am J Public Health 
86(8, Pt 1):1082-1086, 1996 "representative national sample of 1,099 US 
women... Findings suggest that childhood sexual abuse is a risk factor for 

[CTRL] PGE Bankruptcy Bombshell Deepens California Energy Crisis

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/starticles/2001/apr/arst01-040701.htm



PGE Bankruptcy Bombshell Deepens California Energy Crisis 

by Andrew Quinn - Reuters - 04.07.01
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's energy crisis lurched into a dangerous 
new phase on Friday as Pacific Gas  Electric, the state's largest utility, 
declared bankruptcy and accused Gov. Gray Davis of woefully mismanaging the 
emergency.

While officials vowed that the largest utility bankruptcy in U.S. history 
would not turn the lights off for the 13 million Californians Pacific Gas  
Electric serves, it threw a new question mark over the state's ability to get 
through the summer without more power blackouts.

The bankruptcy filing came just one day after Davis outlined a bailout 
strategy designed to help the cash-strapped utility back to its feet after 
months of bleeding money thanks to California's botched 1996 power 
deregulation law.

Pacific Gas  Electric blamed Davis for forcing it into bankruptcy, saying 
his plan to save it was unacceptable and charging that in the last three 
weeks the governor had only bothered to hold one face-to-face meeting to 
bargain directly with the utility. 

"The regulatory and political processes have failed us, and now we are 
turning to the court,'' Robert Glynn, chairman of Pacific Gas  Electric, 
said in a statement.

Davis reacted angrily, saying the massive utility had ''dishonored itself'' 
by asking for bankruptcy protection. 

"PGE was not pushed into bankruptcy but plunged themselves into bankruptcy 
for their own strategic advantage -- not the best interests of the people of 
California,'' Davis said.

Analysts said the filing marked the biggest utility bankruptcy in U.S. 
history and could throw a wrench into Davis' efforts to resolve the power 
crunch hobbling the nation's most populous state.

In its Chapter 11 filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Northern 
District of California, the utility said it owed close to $9 billion because 
state power deregulation laws block utilities from passing along skyrocketing 
wholesale power costs to consumers.

This law, combined with soaring demand and a lack of new power plants, has 
created a disastrous energy crunch in California and already caused four days 
of rolling blackouts across the state and forced state agencies to spend more 
than $50 million per day for emergency power purchases.
More blackouts are feared this summer as higher temperatures lead to 
increased energy demand, and the growing uncertainty over Pacific Gas  
Electric's future Friday only added to fears of continued chaos. 
"This certainly changes the situation pretty significantly and will probably 
lengthen the crisis rather than shorten it,'' said Gerald Keenan, lead 
strategy partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers.


Utility Will Continue To Operate

Pacific Gas  Electric is a unit of PGE Corp. which did not file for court 
protection. The utility, which serves a vast stretch of northern and central 
California, said it would operate ''subject to the jurisdiction of the 
Bankruptcy Court,'' meaning the lights will stay on for its customers.
The utility has 15 days to complete the paperwork for the bankruptcy filing, 
and Federal Bankruptcy Judge Dennis Montali has set a May 8 meeting to 
discuss the next step.

In a statement, PGE Corp. Chairman Robert Glynn said the utility felt that 
talks with regulators and the Davis administration had failed, leaving it no 
choice but to turn to the court as the best venue to protect its shareholders.

With unrecovered costs increasing by more than $300 million per month, Glynn 
accused Davis of ignoring the deepening financial peril of a company that has 
been a pillar of California business for almost 100 years.

The last straw, Glynn said, was Davis' live television speech on Thursday 
evening in which the Democratic governor said that any bailout deal would 
hinge on the utilities' agreement to sell their vast power transmission grid 
to the state -- a demand that Pacific Gas  Electric has resisted.

"We listened carefully to the statement and the commentary that followed and 
this decision is the result,'' Glynn told a news teleconference following the 
bankruptcy filing.


Confusion In Sacramento

For Davis, who had billed his Thursday speech outlining rate hikes and 
conservation as a major step toward resolving the energy crisis, the 
bankruptcy move came as a shock.

While upbraiding Pacific Gas  Electric's "selfish'' move, Davis pledged 
Friday to continue bailout negotiations with Edison International unit 
Southern California Edison (news - web sites) and hoped to have a result 
within days, "proving that negotiation, not bankruptcy, is the appropriate 
path.''

But Glynn said Davis' concentration on the Southern California Edison talks 
had cost PGE dearly, noting that it had been three weeks since the two sides 
had had "face-to-face'' talks before one meeting during the last couple of 
days. "The 

[CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] Mind Kontrol for Kids? Battle Stations! Sound General Quarters!

2001-04-07 Thread Kris Millegan





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[Serious content analysis; relevant to list topics and "conspiracy theories" 
extant.]

Routing via: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Colonial Operations, StarFleet Command
To: Terrestrial Cultural Protection / Arcturus Midway Station
Subj:  The Following (Instructions Appended, as are intelligence references)


In a message dated 4/7/01 4:35:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
write: (to the "mind control" list, [EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Subj:  [MC]  Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force"
  Date:4/7/01 4:35:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time
  From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Thomas)
  Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mind [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  
  Ex-intelligence officer Ed Dames is now promoting remote viewing to kids 
and
  wants to train them to perceive the "dark force" and create a "world with
  no secrets." This sounds a lot like a major new mind control operation to
  me. See http://mindazzle.com (a curious name). Does anyone know what he's 
up
  to?
  

- - - - +
ALERT FROM:
ARCTURUS MIDWAY STATION / STARFLEET COMMAND
COLONIAL OPERATIONS -- "EARTH"

All operatives to the flight deck! Sound general quarters! Battle stations!

Intelligence references appended. Taken together, "alien" campaigns converge.

All operatives and assets are alerted that "ET alien" expatriates 
(functioning as ET "mind parasites" of "psychic warriors" unprepared to 
discern and defend intrustion), we flushed from US military and intelligence 
cadres in Pentagonia into comparatively open fields of "Paranormia" are now 
beginning to make a move through their primary agents. Terrestrial 
counterforces are already mustered and operational (and online).

Timing is being driven by global break-down of "warming myth" in face of US 
action re Kyoto Treaty w/ shift toward planetary climate science, instead of 
"junk science" and New Age apocalyptic "Earth Change" scenarios "channelled" 
by "E.T. aliens." American audience, primarily youth, are skeptical of 
hopeless catastrophe theory.

Targeting of the US by "left" internationalists is being resisted by "right" 
globalists.

Also, coincident release of "CIA and NAZI documents," simultaneous with 
opening of papers of Charles A. Lindbergh, is factor in their timing. The 
latter reveal the depth of "Lindy's" Nazi sympathies and anti-Semitism, 
(Princeton University; see Assoc. Press report of 3/31/01, keyword 
"Lindbergh"). This connects to "mind control" and "UFOs," dating from 
post-World War II and early Cold War era. USMC Major Donald Keyhoe, primary 
founder of the central "conspiracy" organization, NICAP (National 
Investigations Committee for Aerial Phenomena), in the early 1950s, (quite 
logically covering up secret testing of captured Nazi "saucer craft" and 
conveniently other exotic aeronautical technologies, leading to contemporary 
"UFOlogy"), was a former close aide to Lindbergh, as well as an aviation 
"frontier" expert associate of Mr. L. S. Rockefeller, during his pre-World 
War II activities and immediately post-WW II, and of Don Berliner, who became 
a NICAP leader upon the retirement of Major Keyhoe.

See X-Refs to "Project Paperclip," the US inclusion of former Nazis in 
American rocket and aerospace programs (and industries), as well as in fields 
of pharmacology and psychiatry, social engineering and propaganda. This was 
primarily to avoid offending American Jews and the new state of Israel by US 
exploitation of German and (to a lesser degree, primarily involving Bio-War 
RD) Japanese war-time science and technology. All of this was covered up (as 
well as to confuse USSR and PRC).
~
Bring all information to bear and focus on key individuals and organizations 
to protect Earth's children (planetary cultural future). Eschew obfuscation! 
Command clarity! In the face of news media penetration by competing 
globalists (Ted Turner vs. Rupert Murdoch, et al.) and international 
propaganda wars (France, UK, EU, Israel), don't let intentional confusion 
distract you. "Follow the money!" and use the "Matrix of UFO Beliefs." Key 
allies reside in Pentagon and intelligence communities, attempting to clear 
their agency names, enhance science and technical recruiting and detach the 
old guard who've subsequently retired and moved into private and non-profit 
sectors.

Enough said! "The Vallee Effect" is moving into Recharge Phase, when another 
cycle of Belief System Manipulation is erupting, using four major sources we 
ID'd.

Update as new intelligence arrives and is sifted. Do likewise.
Feedback to StarFleet Command -- 

[CTRL] Chapter Excerpt: Down Dirty

2001-04-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Chapter Excerpt: Down  Dirty by Jake Tapper/A
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Down  Dirty
by Jake Tapper  




"Do you get the feeling that Florida might be important in this election?"
At 5:55 a.m. in Tampa, Florida, on Election Day 2000, Vice President Al Gore 
makes a run for the Florida Bakery.
It's his third stop of the day—he's already headlined a South Beach, Miami, 
midnight rally alongside Robert DeNiro and Stevie Wonder, as well as made a 
visit to a Tampa hospital. At the bakery, Gore meets up with his running 
mate, Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn.
The Sunshine State is so critical to his victory, Gore earlier in the year 
had thought about picking Florida's Democratic senator, Bob Graham, as his 
running mate. Instead he went with Lieberman, who has demographic pluses as 
well: an Orthodox Jew is a big hit in southern Florida.
The two are offered small Cuban coffees in teeny plastic sample cups.
"L'chaim," Gore says to Lieberman.
"That's good. That feels like eight hours of sleep," Gore says, downing his 
coffee. He's been going for more than thirty hours now.
"What do you recommend instead of doughnuts?" He asks the woman behind the 
counter what a nice Cuban pastry would be.
Too little too late. Ever since April, when the Clinton administration sent 
Immigration and Naturalization Service officers to seize Elin Gonzlez at 
gunpoint from the bungalow of his Miami relatives in Little Havana, Gore's 
been struggling for Cuban-Americans to give him a chance. And in this tight, 
tight race in Florida he needs their support. Any way he can get it.
The woman behind the counter recommends guava and cream cheese.
"We'll get some of those instead of doughnuts," Gore says. Gore gives her a 
$20 bill for the $14.45 check. "Keep that as a tip," he says. "Gracias."
At 6:10 a.m., Gore's motorcade arrives at the local Democratic HQ, in a small 
cement building in a Cuban section of Tampa. Lieberman —with his hound-dog 
mug and subtle, bubbly glee —jumps onstage.
"Do you get the feeling that Florida might be important in this election?" 
Lieberman jokes. "The dawn is rising on Election Day, right here in Tampa 
Bay."
"This is the last official stop of Campaign 2000," Gore adds. "It's not an 
accident that it's here in Tampa. It's not an accident that it's in 
west-central Florida, because Florida may very well be the state that decides 
the out-come of this election."
He tells the crowd about his South Beach rally. "Just before I went out to 
make the speech, somebody had one of the cable television networks on, and it 
was reporting news at the top of the hour, and it was a roundup of the 
campaign activities. And it said, At this hour, George W. Bush is asleep, 
and Al Gore is preparing to speak to twenty-five thousand people in Florida.' 
" The crowd goes wild.
A napping Dubya was not exceptional, especially after a campaign day as busy 
as was Monday, spent flipping the political bird to Gore and President 
Clinton, swooping in on his campaign plane to stump in their respective home 
states of Tennessee and Arkansas. Bush finished up his campaigning Monday 
night with an airport rally in Austin, and then it would be bedtime. Bush 
likes sleep. He hits the sack by 9:30 p.m. He carried a down pillow 
—nicknamed "pilly" —with him on the campaign trail.
"Well, it's almost 5:30 a.m. Texas time, and George W. Bush is STILL asleep 
and I'm still speaking to people HERE IN FLORIDA!!" Gore says. The crowd 
again goes wild.
Soon enough, Gore and Lieberman leave the Tampa rally, head to the airport, 
and fly to Tennessee to watch the returns. Now it's in the hands of the 
people.
People like Theresa LePore.


LePore, elections supervisor for Palm Beach County, has been awake for three 
full hours. At 2:30 a.m. she eased herself out of bed. She was at work by 
3:45 a.m. Voters start calling her to make sure they know the proper place to 
vote at around 4:30 a.m. or so. LePore feels like crap; she has a sinus 
infection; she didn't get home the previous night until around 10 p.m.; she 
hasn't really slept. But she's jazzed.
LePore loves elections. Lives for them. Says elections are in her blood. At 
the age of eight, she helped her Republican dad lick envelopes for his 
favorite candidates. In the summer of 1971, at the age of sixteen —when most 
girls in her school had their sights set on less lofty pursuits —LePore 
walked into the Palm Beach County elections office and took a job as a 
part-time typist, making $1.75 an hour, under good ol' boy elections 
supervisor Horace Beasley, aka Mr. B. She wasn't even old enough to vote.
LePore's now worked at the elections office for twenty-eight years. 
Originally she had registered to vote as a Republican, like her dad, a 
disabled Korean 

[CTRL] FC: FCC reveals what's indecent or not (Warning: parental advisory) (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread Yardbird

-Caveat Lector-

The report:
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Enforcement/News_Releases/2001/nren0109.html

---

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42892,00.html

   Feds Post Indecent Material
   by Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

   2:00 a.m. Apr. 7, 2001 PDT

   If you've ever wondered how far Howard Stern's raunchy broadcasts can
   go, the FCC has finally answered your question.

   In a fascinating 28-page report released Friday, the nation's radio
   and TV censor has offered dozens of examples of broadcasts that it
   deems "indecent" and some that are acceptable for airing.

   The line between what's perfectly lawful and what will get a radio
   station's license yanked seems undeniably fuzzy, but some examples may
   clarify the FCC's position.

   ---

   Indecent: "Soon she was fondling my Peter Paul and Zagnuts, and I knew
   it wouldn't be long before I blew my Milk Duds clear to Mars and gave
   her a taste of the old Milky Way..."

   Not indecent: "Dick suggests maybe getting a mega-Dick to help out,
   but you know, you remember the time the King ate mega-Dick under the
   table..."

   Indecent: "Well, it was a nice big fart. I'm feeling very gaseous at
   this point."

   Not indecent: "The hell I did, I drove motherfucker, oh. Oh."

   Indecent: "Could you take the phone and rub it on your Chia Pet? Oh,
   let me make sure nobody is around ... Now was that really your little
   beaver?"

   Not indecent: "Oops, fucked that one up."

   Indecent: "Sit on my face and tell me that you love me. I'll sit on
   your face and tell you I love you too."

   Not indecent: "American wives all across the country have confessed to
   using erotic aids to spice up their sex life and ... thousands of
   women say they fantasize while having sex with their husbands."

   Indecent: "The man complained earlier that he was so large that it was
   ruining his marriages. Big is good if the guy knows how to use it ...
   somebody big is just going to have to find somebody that's big."

   Indecent: "Have you ever had sex with an animal? Well, don't knock it.
   I was sodomized by Lambchop."




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[CTRL] FC: Germany plans DOS attacks against overseas sites --Der Spiegel (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread Yardbird

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:11:30 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Fwd: [FYI] German Government considers DOS-Attacks against
  undesired foreign websites

An (anonymized) headsup from a German:


For those who aren't able to read German texts: According to a recent
SPIEGEL ONLINE report, Otto Schily, German Home Secretary, publicly
considers plans to perform "Official" DOS-attacks on foreign websites
which are deemed to violate applicable German law. Obviously Schily
thinks that DOS attacks might in particular be a suitable procedure
to combat nazi websites hosted in the U.S. and there being protected
by the First Amendment.  However, even other undesired content banned
by German law might be honoured by an "Official DOS Attack".

Are there any friends abroad who might explain the principles of law
to our Government? I think there should be as much forign media
coverage as possible in order to prevent the worst possible
developments.

Some background info: In the seventies and eighties of the past
century, Schily joined the political party of "DIE GRUENEN" (The
Greens) and, in his capacity as a lawyer, he defended left extremists
and RAF terrorists in court. Later he switched over to the Social
Democratic Party (SPD), and now in his capacity as German Home
Secretary he is one of the utmost "law  order right-wingers" if
debate comes to security politics.




http://www.spiegel.de/druckversion/0,1588,126921,00.html

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SPIEGEL ONLINE - 06. April 2001, 18:21
URL: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,126921,00.html

Otto Schily: Mit Hackermethoden gegen Neonazis

Von Frank Patalong

Innenminister Otto Schily erwägt, ausländische Nazi-Websites mit
Hackerangriffen lahm zu legen. Dafür will sich das Ministerium so
genannter Denial-of-Service-Attacken bedienen. Mit ähnlichen Methoden
hatten Hacker im letzten Frühjahr weite Teile des Internets
blockiert.

Hamburg - Hackerattacken im Auftrag des Ministeriums seien keineswegs
"im Unrechtsbereich anzusiedeln", argumentiert Schilys Sprecher Dirk
Inger. Dahinter stehe "vielmehr der Gedanke der Verteidigung unserer
Rechtsordnung gegen rechtswidrige Angriffe unter bewusster Ausnutzung
der Internationalität des Mediums Internet." Dafür müsse man über
viele Instrumente nachdenken. Was schließlich umgesetzt werde,
"bestimmt sich nach Recht, Effektivität und Erfolgsaussicht",
beantwortete Inger eine Anfrage von SPIEGEL ONLINE.

Wer die Angriffe für das Innenministerium durchführen soll, ist noch
nicht bekannt. Mit Denial-of-Service (DoS)-Attacken kennt sich Schily
jedenfalls aus. Seit den weltweiten DoS-Angriffen auf kommerzielle
Websites wie Yahoo! und eBay im Frühjahr 2000 reibt sich Schily an
den Gefahren des Cyberspace. Als Reaktion auf die DoS-Attacken und
das "I Love You"-Virus entstand im Frühjahr 2000 der Plan zu Schilys
"Internet Task Force", die künftig Deutschlands "kritische
Infrastrukturen" sichern soll.

Das klingt nach Verteidigung, meint aber offenbar mehr: Bisher wurde
die "Internet Task Force" von vielen als reagierender Debattierclub
gesehen. Schily dagegen scheint sie durchaus so zu verstehen, wie sie
in der Übersetzung ihres englischen Namens daherkommt: als "schnelle
Eingreiftruppe".

Bereits am 21. Dezember vergangenen Jahres hatte Schily, in
Deutschland unbemerkt, in einem Interview mit der "Washington Post"
argumentiert, dass es Verteidigung auch in einer "Vorneweg"-Variante
geben könne. Denn als staatsgefährdend werden auch Neonazi-Seiten im
Internet wahrgenommen - und die sind äußerst schwer dichtzumachen,
gerade wenn sie auf Servern in den Vereinigten Staaten liegen.

Dort schützt sie das "First Amendment", der erste Passus der
amerikanischen Verfassung, die den Begriff "Meinungsfreiheit" weiter
als jede andere Verfassung in der Welt fasst. Nach amerikanischer
Ansicht fällt selbst die Auschwitz-Lüge unter die Presse- und
Meinungsfreiheit: Zugriff verboten.

Den bedingt sich die deutsche Justiz aber seit dem 12. Dezember 2000
aus: An diesem Tag entschied der Bundesgerichtshof, dass
neonazistische, volksverhetzende Veröffentlichungen auch dann
rechtlich verfolgbar wären, wenn sie im Ausland veröffentlicht
werden.

Die Betreiber amerikanischer Neonazi-Sites stört das wenig. Sie
dürfen sich durch die US-Behörden gedeckt fühlen, die ein
erfolgreiches Auslieferungsverfahren wegen eines in Amerika
begangenen Verstoßes gegen deutsches Recht kaum für möglich halten,
wie John Russell, damals Sprecher des amerikanischen
Justizministeriums, in einer Reaktion auf das BGH-Urteil klarmachte.

Heiligt der Zweck die Mittel?

Eine Situation, mit der Schily sich durchaus nicht abfinden will.
Neben dem offiziellen Weg, sagte er schon damals der "Washington
Post", könne er sich durchaus vorstellen, Neonazi-Seiten in Amerika
mit Spams oder DoS-Attacken zum Zusammenbruch zu bringen, wenn andere
Ansätze nicht zum Erfolg 

Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 4/7/01 6:08:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 2 x browning 9mm - used for the killings- 56 shots , no reloads (28 round

clips?- is that right? he deinately didn't reload and he only used the

brownings... i know very little about gun specs- but do they really take 28

round clips?)


2 x smith  wesson .357. one used to top himself afterward.

 

28 round magazine, that would be one long magazine, I believe that the
browning is a single stack weapon. I am not aware of anyone manufactoring a
magazine with this cap.. Possibly he made them himself.
At least he had the decency to save the people the cost of having to try him.

no it wouldn't deter. the level of the contact crime is not the same as in

the US- firearm crimes are rare as the ability to purchase firearms is

limited to the higher level criminals and terrorist groups. in america there

is a good chance that a burglar will be armed with a gun- in the UK the same

burglar would not be armed- or if he was it would be a cosh or a blade.

to have guns circulating would change this- it would raise the level both in

the criminal and in the householder. in the US there is an ever increasing

internal arms race going on.

A cosh or a blade can and in some cases they do kill. The underlaying
argument here is the same one that the police in the U.S. are trying very had
to get people to accept. That is, if someone breaks into your house, pick up
the phone and call the police. Then you can pray that the police arraive
before the bad guys find you.
When I first moved to Sunny, Southern California there was an incident
reported in the local paper. An 84 year old man living alone in an apartment
was awakened by a noise in is living room. He got up and went to the door to
the living room and saw a large man in the process of robbing him. The robber
saw him and told him to go back to bed before he got hurt. The old man had an
old army 45 hanging from a nail by the door. He took the 45, shot the
intruder 3 times and then called the police. The indruder lived.
Firearms can and do make a difference.

the chance of death is very much increased when guns are involved as
oipposed to any other weapon.
In the U.S., when the occupant of the house/apartment is armed, it is the
intruder who winds up with holes in them.

Mostly going to terrorist groups- it is no surprise that the increase in

particularly ex-military weapons coincides with a rearming by the dissident

republican groups in ireland.

Has anyone suggested to the Home Secretary that he should spray the area with
an industrial strengh insectiside? :-)

Bill H

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[CTRL] Ted Turner's Russian TV Deal

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.newaus.com.au/aatemprus222.html




Ted Turner does
Russian TV deal


Russia
TNA News with Commentary
Friday 6 April 2001 Gleb Pavlovsky: As a result of the Gusinsky-Turner deal 
Russia will get a professional American TV channel broadcasting in Russian.

 The news about Gusinsky’s sale of his package of NTV shares, along with his 
statement carried by Kommersant-Daily, indicate that what we have before us 
is a “politics-business” deal so typical of Gusinsky and Berezovsky. That is 
to say that Gusinsky is selling not an information (news) channel, he is 
selling an agitation-propaganda resource, the most professional at the given 
moment.

 I consider that as an agitation resource, NTV stands in a class by itself. 
It has no competitors. This is a channel that contrives and sells crises. The 
current broadcasting strike at NTV demonstrates how crises are to be shaped 
and sold. For example, they organize a campaign or show that is called “free 
speech - in danger” and then people are encouraged to come out into the 
streets to defend — what or whom? To defend a multimillionaire who is 
precisely squabbling with a multibillionaire over the sale of his shares. 
Truly a brilliant move! And what is up for sale is precisely that 
agitation-propaganda function that has been honed to perfection.

 Or, take for example, how cunningly they threw in the absurd idea about an 
“expected” power solution to the conflict. Understandably, this is a pure 
fabrication on the part of “stage director” Gusinsky for the obvious purpose 
of provoking the authorities to interfere in a commercial dispute, the 
outcome of which does not concern them at all (the authorities are strong 
enough to remain indifferent in this matter). Simply, this is an outright 
provocation addressed to Putin, a provocation in which Yabloko is also 
participating most likely for the purpose of counting on certain financing 
within the framework of the overall system of settling accounts in this deal.

 One must understand that as a result of the Gusinsky-Turner deal, we shall 
have a professional American TV channel broadcasting in Russian, i.e., we 
shall have an overt, not a covert American TV channel. This implies that 
there is an attempt to turn NTV into a key structure in the strategy of 
applying American pressure on the internal political life in Russia. It goes 
without saying that such an instrument costs a pretty penny. And I must agree 
with Gusinsky — such a professional agitation or brainwashing channel is 
certainly worth more than $200 million.

 Incidentally, one should not rule out that the strike and the whole line 
that Kiselyov is pursuing at the TV channel are the result of a taciturn 
parallel deal between Kiselyov and Turner: an agreement aimed at knocking 
down the price tag on the deal. Political manipulations with the commercials 
at NTV, when commercials are turned into alphabet noodle soup between 
political brainwashing, can lead to the point when advertisers will recall 
their contracts that were after all signed up with a working TV channel 
rather than with a political campaign. 

From the point of view of political technologies, one can only welcome the 
fact that Russian political propaganda specialists will now have on the 
domestic market such a professional foreign competitor as the “Turnerized” 
NTV — an instrument for putting direct and continuous pressure on our 
internal policies. I welcome this because I consider that professional 
training of Russian specialists in that field is possible only in a regime of 
a real conflict. So far, that side is smarter and more professional than the 
Russian side.

 I would single out the weakness of the state in that conflict since 
bureaucracy is playing the main role here. The apparatus has taken the 
conflict into its hands, and as usual, it is playing its role sloppily. After 
all, the conflict surfaced as a result of the way the apparatus handled the 
dispute of property ownership in the information market.

 Gazprom’s stand reflects a purely bureaucratic apparatus style: it is trying 
to look after its own interests. It has squeezed out from participating in 
this conflict both public and professional forces, including other owners in 
the media market. Apparently, Gazprom also has its own monopolist objectives 
in this question. The apparatus style allows NTV to score political points in 
this conflict because the latter is not afraid to call in its support groups. 
In particular, regional TV broadcasters are compelled to watch how Gazprom’s 
apparatus game leads to the point where they will encounter a very dangerous 
competitor in their market. In this sense, I would say that the bureaucratic 
approach to the conflict without taking note of its purely legal nature and 
without mobilizing those forces that could back the state on this issue, does 
damage to the interests of the state itself.

 In a bureaucratic and politically styled conflict only an 

[CTRL] THE TRUTH ABOUT FOOT AND MOUTH

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index1c.html




THE TRUTH ABOUT FOOT AND MOUTH


 1/ The so-called outbreak of foot and mouth disease, has been wholly
contrived and stage managed by the British Government, from the very
beginning. In fact, six weeks before the first cases of the disease were
confirmed, government agents were making enquiries into the availability of
wood, coal, and fuel oil, to be used for making the massive funeral pyres for
the infected animals.

2/ The actual agenda behind this, is to destroy the British agriculture power
base and render British farmer bankrupt, in order that a Pan-European
agricultural co-operative can be formed, when the big combines will then buy
up the land presently owned by British farmers. This is to enable, the mass
introduction of generally modified crops, by giant international corporations
like Monsanto

3/ A further agenda, is to retaliate against the British farmers,who
successfully challenged the government over the fuel taxation issue.

4/ The virus (Pan Asian Type O) responsible for the current foot and mouth
outbreak, was created in Porton Down, and was being deliberately spread, not
least by the means of disposing of the animal carcasses. It is a fact that
the foot and mouth virus, is destroyed above temperatures of 50 degrees C and
above. However, when the animals are burned before the correct temperature is
reached, the infected air in the animals lungs is expelled, causing the
infection to be spread downwind with the smoke. The correct, and traditional
method of disposing of the infected animals, is to bury them in a pit, to
which lime is then added before covering with earth.

5/ The phenomenon, of foot and mouth disease, has been a part of animal
husbandry in this country for many centuries. The infected animals, were
traditionally cared for, and they recovered in a relatively short time. Never
before, has this disease caused such a paranoid over-reaction by the
government, than is currently the case.

6/ The restriction of access to the British countryside, is without
justification on the ground that the virus is largely airborne. The general
population, have been scared into believing the validity of the whole
conspiracy by these measures. This is in fact, the secret government's
primary purpose.


THE BRITISH CAMPAIGN FOR TRUTH


source: PJF


[CTRL] Bacon And Shakespeare's Sonnets

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/bacon/bacon-7.html#ch20




The Mystery of Francis Bacon

By William T. Smedley

Part 7


Chapter XX

SHAKESPEARE'S SONNETS


"SHAKESPEARE'S SONNETS never before Imprinted," have afforded commentators
material for many volumes filled with theories which to the ordinary critical
mind appear to have no foundation in fact. Chapters have been written to
prove that Mr. W. H., the only begetter of the Sonnets, was Henry
Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton, and chapters have been written to prove
that he was no such person, but that William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke, was
the man intended to be designated. Theories have been elaborated to identify
the individuals represented by the Rival Poet and the dark Lady. Not one of
these theories is supported by the vestige of a shred of testimony that would
stand investigation. There has not come down any evidence that Shakspur, of
Stratford, knew either the Earl of Southampton, the Earl of Pembroke or Marie
Fitton. The truth is that Mr. W. H. was Shakespeare, who was the only
begetter of the Sonnets, and the proof of this statement will in due time be
forthcoming. It may be well to try and read some of the Sonnets as they stand
and endeavour to realise what is the obvious meaning of the printed words.

The key to the Sonnets will be found in No. 62. The language in which it is
written is explicit and capable of being understood by any ordinary intellect.

"Sinne of selfe-love possesseth al mine eie
And all my soule, and al my every part;
And for this sinne there is no remedie,
It is so grounded inward in my heart.
Me thinkes no face so gratious is as mine,
No shape so true, no truth of such account,
And for my selfe mine owne worth do define,
As I all other in all worth's surmount
But when my glasse shewes me my selfe indeed
Beated and chopt with tand antiquitie,
Mine one selfe love quite contrary I read
Selfe, so selfe loving were iniquity.
Tis thee (my-selfe) that for myself I praise
Painting my age with beauty of thy daies."

The writer here states definitely that he is dominated by the sin of
self-love; it possesseth his eye, his soul, and every part of him. There can
be found no remedy for it; it is so grounded in his heart. No face is so
gracious as is his, no shape so true, no truth of such account. He defines
his worth as surmounting that of all others. This is the frank expression of
a man who not only believed that he was, but knew that he was superior to all
his contemporaries, not only in intellectual power, but in personal
appearance. Then comes an arrest in the thought, and he realises that time
has been at work. He has been picturing himself as he was when a young man.
He turns to his glass and sees himself beated and chopt with tanned
antiquity; forty summers have passed over his brow.*

* Sonnet No. 2.

Francis Bacon at forty years of age, or thereabouts, unmarried, childless,
sits down to his table. Hilliard's portrait before him, with pen in hand,
full of self-love, full of admiration for that beautiful youth on whose
counterfeit presentment he is gazing. His intellectual triumphs pass in
review before him, most of them known only to himself and that youth--his
companion through life. That was the Francis Bacon who controlled him in all
his comings and goings--his ideal whom he worshipped. If he could have a son
like that boy! His pen begins to move on the paper--

"From fairest creatures we desire increase
That thereby beauty's rose might never die,
But as the riper should by time decrease
_

His tender heire might bear his memory."
The pen stops and the writer's eye wanders to the miniature:--
"But thou* contracted to thine own bright eyes."

And so the Sonnets flow on, without effort, without the need of reference to
authorities, for the great, fixed and methodical memory needs none.

How natural are the allusions--

"Thou art thy mother's glasse and she in thee
Calls backe the lovely Aprill of her prime."

_

"Be as thy presence is, gracious and kind,
Or to thyselfe at least kind hearted prove.
Make thee another self, for love of me
That beauty may still live in thine or thee."

_

"Let those whom nature hath not made for store,
Harsh, featureless and rude, barrenly perish;
Look, whom she best indow'd she gave the more;
Which bountious guift thou shouldst in bounty cherrish;
She carv'd thee for her seale, and ment therby
Thou shouldst print more, not let that coppy die."

_

"O that you were yourselfe, but love you are
No longer yours, then you yourselfe here live,
Against this cunning end you should prepare,
And your sweet semblance to some other give

. . . .

Who lets so faire a house fall to decay

. . . .

O none but unthrifts, deare my love you know
You had a Father, let your Son say so."

_

"But wherefore do not you a mightier waie
Make warre uppon this bloodie tirant Time?
And fortifie your selfe in your decay

___

With meanes more blessed, then my barren rime?
Now stand you on the 

Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won

2001-04-07 Thread lassey

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I know all about the background of the Bush family and I am not happy
about it. BUTTT do YOU know about the background of the
GORE family? Obviously not. It's a matter of  'pick your poison'.
We have not had any candidates that care about America for years..

If name calling provides you comfort, call on. I just read the first few
words and delete.With rare exception, seeing 676767 in the header
tells me that I can delete without having to read-an easy way to clean
out my Inbox.

On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:54:54 EDT William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 In a message dated 4/6/01 8:30:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
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  Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this.  You better
  believe
  that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON
 

 Can't believe any self-respecting collie would take the time to
 essentially
 defend a Bush either!!!

 Are you totally ignorant or are you not aware of the SPOOKY and
 quite
 questionable bloodline and heritage of the Bush Dynasty???

 You seem like another dine-a-dozen LimbIdiot...a Rush-freak.
 Are you?

 You're CLEARLY kontrolled...are you clear enough to admit it?

 Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won

2001-04-07 Thread lassey

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I agree with the first 3 sentences. But I don't think 'the real power is
the
corporations'. I believe even the corporations are controlled.


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 It doesn't matter who won or how. The president is a puppet. The
 government is a front. The real power is the corporations. They
 control
 the money supply, the food supply, the fuel supply, the land, the
 buildings, most means of communications, and the government.

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[CTRL] Multiculturalism Democracy don't mix (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread Yardbird

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Why Multiculturalism and Democracy don't mix (Balkans case study)
By Steve Sailer

In a lifetime of being boggled by the American press, I don't believe
I've ever seen anything as baffling as their rote insistence that the
last ten years of war in the Balkans were caused by "dictatorship,"
for which the solutions were "democracy" and "multiculturalism."

Folks, democracy is what caused the mess. Multiculturalism works
fine ... under a real dictator, like Tito. He had multiethnic
Yugoslavia locked down tight, nice and peaceful. But when the
inhabitants got more say in their lives, they started killing each
other. They wanted democracy. But they knew that to have it, they
needed mono-ethnic states.

When the old multiethnic Yugoslavia cracked up, the rest of the world
recognized the phony borders that Tito had concocted to minimize the
size of the Serbian administrative unit within his empire. This left
large numbers of Serbs living outside Serbia, where they were exposed
to their historic enemies. The great Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn explained
it all in The Times of London in 1997:

The bloody Yugoslav tragedy has unfolded before our eyes (and is it
over yet?) To be sure, blame for it lies with the Communist coterie
of Josip Broz Tito, which imposed an arbitrary pattern of internal
borders upon the country, trampling on ethnic common sense, and even
relocating ethnic masses by force. Yet blame lies also with the
venerable community of Western leaders, who -- with an angelic
naiveté -- took those false borders seriously, and then hastened at a
moment's notice, in a day or two, to recognize the independence of
several breakaway republics whose political formation they apparently
found to be advantageous. It was these leaders, then, who nudged
Yugoslavia toward many grueling years of civil war; and their
position, declared as neutral, was by no means such.

Yugoslavia, with its seven estranged peoples, was told to fall apart
as soon as possible. But Bosnia, with its three estranged peoples and
vivid memories of Hitlerite Croatians slaughtering up to a million
Serbs, had to remain united at all costs - the particular insistence
of the United States Government. Who can explain the disparity of
such an approach? [http://www.suc.org/news/world_articles/times082197]

Democracy requires trust - that the other members of your democracy
won't vote to despoil you. That's utterly lacking in the Balkans,
where nobody trusts anybody they aren't related to. And for good
reason. Each and every ethnic group has the blood of its neighbors'
ancestors on its hands.

Democracy also needs a "settled distribution of property." Britain's
modern parliamentary system dates from the Glorious Revolution of
1688. This permanently confirmed Henry VIII's theft of the Catholic
Church's properties, thus ending 150 years of turmoil. But everyone
in the Balkans is convinced that somebody from another ethnic group
stole valuable land from his father or grandfather or great-great-
great-grandfather. These suspicions are usually accurate. (Of course,
everybody conveniently forgets that the land he lives on was usually
stolen from somebody else too.)

Human beings have a remarkable capacity for forgiving the murder,
rape, or enslavement of their forefathers. But not the theft of real
estate. As the real estate agents tell you, "They ain't makin'
anymore of it." And, along with associated grievances, it doesn't go
away.

All this was well understood in the West during the century between
the Glorious Revolution and the framing of the American Constitution.
But it's been forgotten since, because we don't need to worry much
about who owns what anymore. You don't have to worry that your house
will be handed back to the descendents of the Indians who used to
camp there. Your property is secure because the white race decided to
steal the vast majority of the land from the red race, and then not
worry about it much anymore.

That's why our leaders and media couldn't understand what was clear
to the peoples of the Balkans: Tito's bogus borders left only two
alternatives - redraw the borders or ethnically cleanse them.

Instead, we just decided that the Serbs were Evil. So, we had years
of carnage in Bosnia until they finally ended up with a de facto
three-way partition anyway. Franco Tudjman solved the problem in
Croatia by ethnically cleansing all the Serbs. Kosovo was and remains
a fiasco.

The good news is that, in the northern Balkans, we now are closer to
normal (i.e. ethnically-homogenous) nation-states. Slovenia is a nice
little European country. Croatia is calming down now that the Serbs
are gone. They've at least stopped killing each other in Bosnia now
that they have borders of sorts.

But in the southern Balkans, the process of redrawing borders and/or
ethnically cleansing populations could go on for years. The
Montenegrins are restive under Serbian rule. The Albanians are
looking to jerry-rig a greater Albania comprised of the 

[CTRL] MAD COW DISEASE SPREADING IN CANADA?

2001-04-07 Thread John Cone

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Does anyone have information about Mad Cow disease
in Canada?  I just received the following email:

Mad Cow disease is rampant among Ontario Elk and Deer
populations.  The Canadian Gov't is actively involved
in a massive kill off of potentially infected animals.
 Heard anything about this?

Any information about this would be appreciated.
J.C.





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Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread c.

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From: "Bill Howard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Proof ...



 28 round magazine, that would be one long magazine, I believe that the
 browning is a single stack weapon. I am not aware of anyone manufactoring
a
 magazine with this cap.. Possibly he made them himself.

i couldn't see any mention of it in the enquiry link i got the info from
that i pasted but it said that didn't reload and the amount of shots and
that he only used the brownings- there is no explanation about the set up -
if it was home made.


 At least he had the decency to save the people the cost of having to try
him.

he had no decency- he was a coward who murdered children- he killed himself
because he would not stand up for what he had done.
i know you are being sarcastic, but, reading the text of what he did is so
sad i cannot manage to appriciate any ambiguity regarding him.



 A cosh or a blade can and in some cases they do kill. The underlaying
 argument here is the same one that the police in the U.S. are trying very
had
 to get people to accept. That is, if someone breaks into your house, pick
up
 the phone and call the police. Then you can pray that the police arraive
 before the bad guys find you.

well- the point i was trying to make is not applicable to the US at all- i
actually believe that civilians *do* need to arm themselves in america-
because of the amount of circulating weapons.
but my point is that one has more chance of surviving an attack by an
assailant with a blade than an assailant with a gun. of course people can be
killed by any weapon but the danger of the weapons is different. i don't
agree with the "only call the police and be passive til they arrive"
argument at all- but it is different for me here in the UK- i was broken
into while i was sitting here at the puter last summer- dude coming in over
the roof LOL but the fact is i didn't pause for a second to confront him-
never crossed my mind that he would be armed better than me (a climbing
axe)- for them to be armed with a gun would have been bizarre in the
extreme- the probable result of any actual combat (there wasn't in the end)
is more akin to a streetfight than - say- the same example in the US- with
defender and assailant armed with guns... there would be no chase- or fight-
only ranged weapons firing from a distance.
the psychology,the aesthetics of combat is odd. ranged weapons compared with
close combat weapons. that is the difference between our countries- more
than wether the weapons are deadlier or not. i think it makes a difference
to the result of a confrontation. ranged weapons ended the ability of people
to face the consequences of their actions- removes the subjectivity of
killing. removes the strength and seriousness of death, weakens the meaning
of killing a person. it is too easy to kill from distance. empathy is
withdrawn, abstracting of the act and compartmentalisation of it is easy.
close combat is affecting and prolonged and messy- ranged weapons are clean
and as distant emotionally as they are physically.

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Re: [CTRL] Proof ...

2001-04-07 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 4/7/01 2:42:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  i think it makes a difference

to the result of a confrontation. ranged weapons ended the ability of people

to face the consequences of their actions- removes the subjectivity of

killing. removes the strength and seriousness of death, weakens the meaning

of killing a person. it is too easy to kill from distance. empathy is

withdrawn, abstracting of the act and compartmentalisation of it is easy. 

This is true. Not everyone can be a knife man. Most people just don't have
the stomach for it. Killing at a distance makes the act into a video game.

But handguns are different. They are a close in weapon. Most shooting with a
handgun is done at less than 10m. There is very little thought to it, it is
mostly trained reflex action.

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[CTRL] Aquifers Are Nearly DRY (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread Yardbird

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Aquifers Are Nearly DRY http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html

Subj:  A Lesson in Physics

Major US Groundwater Reserves And Aquifers Are Nearly DRY
MANY, many of this planet's LARGEST aquifers and
(naturally occurring) groundwater reservoirs are said to be at
unprecedented, critically depleted levels and literally right
on the verge of disappearing completely! INCLUDED in this
category are certain aquifers which supply water to some of
this planet's MAJOR population centers.  How EVER, the other
PRIME cause of the rapid DISAPPEARANCE of drinkable water
throughout Florida is DROUGHT, plain and simple.


No RAIN.

Sound familiar? It sounds to us a lot like what's been going
on in the Pacific Northwest for THREE years now; in which what
overwhelming evidence shows is an ARTIFICIAL,
intentionally induced droughtbrought about by such
technologies as HAARP, ELF/ULF transmitters and chem trails
has been wreaking devastating consequences on a huge section
of North America.

Weather Modification
http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenewsdesk.html

The long lasting California drought in the 80s was caused by a
massive ridge of high pressure 800 miles off the California
coast which hovered for extended periods of time, blocking the
usual flow of moist air coming in from the Pacific and pushing
storms around to the north. Meteorologists who have analyzed
this phenomena consider it to be one of the most unusual
national patterns ever recorded, unique in the annals of
weather recording. Such long lasting centers of high pressure
were unheard of until 1977. Evidence suggests that this was
possibly caused by Woodpecker generated giant standing ELF
waves which are transmitted by the Soviets intentionally to
block the flow of normal weather patterns

From: "Bill Mauldin" - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Secret Rulers Control America's Weather
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/weather.htm
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Fluoride - The Lunatic Drug
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/water.htm

Mountain Valley has a lot of good things bottled up for you
http://www.mvwater.com/mvwater.htm

Mountain Valley Spring Company Staff Directory
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War and the Emergency Powers
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ANY CREATED PROBLEMS!!  A Sovereign Knows, a
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[CTRL] Frankfurt School and Political Correctness (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread Yardbird

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http://www.propaganda101.com/frankfurt.htm

THE NEW DARK AGE- The Frankfurt School and "Political Correctness"

by Michael J. Minnicino
The Frankfurt School:  Bolshevik Intelligentsi

The single, most important organizational component of this conspiracy was a
Communist thinktank called the Institute for Social Research (I.S.R.), but
popularly known as the Frankfurt School.

In the heady days immediately after the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, it
was widely believed that proletarian revolution would momentarily sweep out
of the Urals into Europe and, ultimately, North America. It did not; the
only two attempts at workers' government in the West-- in Munich and
Budapest--lasted only months. The Communist International (Comintern)
therefore began several operations to determine why this was so. One such
was headed by Georg Lukacs, a Hungarian aristocrat, son of one of the
Hapsburg Empire's leading bankers. Trained in Germany and already an
important literary theorist, Lukacs became a Communist during World War I,
writing as he joined the party, "Who will save us from Western
civilization?"

* * *

At its core, the dominant Western ideology maintained that the individual,
through the exercise of his or her reason, could discern the Divine Will in
an unmediated relationship. What was worse, from Lukacs' standpoint: this
reasonable relationship necessarily implied that the individual could and
should change the physical universe in pursuit of the Good; that Man should
have dominion over Nature, as stated in the Biblical injunction in Genesis.
The problem was, that as long as the individual had the belief--or even the
hope of the belief--that his or her divine spark of reason could solve the
problems facing society, then that society would never reach the state of
hopelessness and alienation which Lukacs recognized as the necessary
prerequisite for socialist revolution.

The task of the Frankfurt School, then, was first, to undermine the
Judeo-Christian legacy through an "abolition of culture" (Aufhebung der
Kultur in Lukacs' German); and, second, to determine new cultural forms
which would increase the alienation of the population, thus creating a "new
barbarism." To this task, there gathered in and around the Frankfurt School
an incredible assortment of not only Communists, but also non-party
socialists, radical phenomenologists, Zionists, renegade Freudians, and at
least a few members of a self-identified "cult of Astarte." The variegated
membership reflected, to a certain extent, the sponsorship: although the
Institute for Social Research started with Comintern support, over the next
three decades its sources of funds included various German and American
universities, the Rockefeller Foundation, Columbia Broadcasting System, the
American Jewish Committee, several American intelligence services, the
Office of the U.S. High Commissioner for Germany, the International Labour
Organization, and the Hacker Institute, a posh psychiatric clinic in Beverly
Hills.

* * *

Of the other top Institute figures, the political perambulations of Herbert
Marcuse are typical. He started as a Communist; became a protege of
philosopher Martin Heidegger even as the latter was joining the Nazi Party;
coming to America, he worked for the World War II Office of Strategic
Services (OSS), and later became the U.S. State Department's top analyst of
Soviet policy during the height of the McCarthy period; in the 1960's, he
turned again, to become the most important guru of the New Left; and he
ended his days helping to found the environmentalist extremist Green Party
in West Germany.

In all this seeming incoherence of shifting positions and contradictory
funding, there is no ideological conflict. The invariant is the desire of
all parties to answer Lukacs' original question: "Who will save us from
Western civilization?"

Theodor Adorno and Walter Benjamin

Perhaps the most important, if least-known, of the Frankfurt School's
successes was the shaping of the electronic media of radio and television
into the powerful instruments of social control which they represent today.
This grew out of the work originally done by two men who came to the
Institute in the late 1920's, Theodor Adorno and Walter Benjamin.

* * *

In essence, Adorno and Benjamin's problem was Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. At
the beginning of the eighteenth century, Leibniz had once again obliterated
the centuries-old gnostic dualism dividing mind and body, by demonstrating
that matter does not think. A creative act in art or science apprehends the
truth of the physical universe, but it is not determined by that physical
universe. By self-consciously concentrating the past in the present to
effect the future, the creative act, properly defined, is as immortal as the
soul which envisions the act. This has fatal philosophical implications for
Marxism, which rests entirely on the hypothesis that mental activity is
determined by the social relations excreted 

[CTRL] POISON IN OUR SKIES!

2001-04-07 Thread John Cone

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Foreward by Nakano

In the Book the Gods of Eden, William Bramley explains
that during the middle ages, village people and
farmers would often see shadowy figures in hooded
black robes carrying what they thought looked like
long metal sickles. These mysterious figures
were seen in the crop fields and a "white mist" came
from the end of their sickles. In the cities these
figures came around at night with their sickles and
white mist...leaving it around doorways of houses.
Within a day or two, the plague would suddenly strike.
In some areas the "Black Death" took more than 80
percent of the population!
Drawings of these black hooded figures have come down
to us today as the figure of Death in a hooded black
robe and carrying a sickle.


---
A letter written to radio talkshow host Art Bell
March 4, 1999
Attachment: Forwarded Message

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Poison in our skies:
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:21:30 EST


Dear Art,
 I have not missed a single day's work due to
health in more than 20 years.until yesterday.
I spent yesterday in sweat clothes, wrapped up in a
sleeping bag, shivering with chills. My temp was 103,
and I could barely climb out of bed. My whole family
is sick with the same thing..."flu-like symptoms". My
wife is a nurse. The local hospitals are begging the
nurses to work extra shifts and there are no empty
beds in town.  About 2 weeks ago, on a beautiful
clear-blue day I made a trip to the store with my 4
year old daughter. As we left our home, she pointed to
the sky
overhead and said: "Look Daddy, it's tic-tac-toe".
I looked up and saw the giant pattern of huge
contrails...4 of them crossed in a perfect
tic-tac-toe. A few days later my 3 children were sick.
They were coughing, throwing-up and running temps up
to 104. They are better now, but still coughing.
I returned to work today but I really should have
stayed in bed. In my job, I spend the day making phone
calls all across the country.
I am doing my own survey...and I can tell you this
problem is all over the U.S.  If there were an Air
Force Base near me where I thought these jet sprayer
planes were flying from, I would go out and get as
close to the front gate as they would let me.
I would hold up a big sign saying:
STOP  SPRAYING  POISON  IN  OUR  AIR!!
Perhaps the pilots and air crews don't know what they
are doing to us.
You have the power to reach many of them. Please tell
them to stop the spraying Art.
It isn't much to ask our government to stop poisoning
the air we breathe. If this doesn't wake up the
American People, they are not going to wake
up until they are forced from their homes and can only
see the world from behind barbed wire fences!
You have already done programs on this subject.
Please do more.



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[CTRL] Eli Lilly's Sarafem -- same as Prozac?

2001-04-07 Thread Linda Minor

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http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200104301.shtml
Misleading Medicine




By Kelly Patricia O’Meara
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Pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly is promoting Sarafem as a miracle pill for
women suffering from PMDD, a ‘mental disorder’ not yet proved to exist. What
’s more, Eli Lilly admits that Sarafem has the same active ingredient as
Prozac, complete with the same dangerous side effects.

Australian-born singer Helen Reddy’s 1972 hit song “I Am Woman” has been
called a feminist battle hymn. Many a male disc jockey at the time refused
to air it until the song became part of the soundtrack to a movie and
catapulted to the top of the Billboard charts. Taking a look at the song
today, it’s hard to imagine the furor generated by the lyrics from the lady
down under:
   “Oh, yes, I am wise, but it’s wisdom born of pain.
   “Yes, I’ve paid the price, but look how much I gained.
   “If I have to I can do anything.
   “I am strong. I am invincible. I am woman.”
   Nearly three decades since the release of this feminist anthem the
lyrics neither threaten nor offend — if they ever did — but seem to
acknowledge pride in feminine strength. As if it needed to be said,
historians agree on the significance of women in the building of this
nation. The Jamestown settlement, for instance, was a disaster and on the
brink of failure until women were added to the new colony. The West was won
by men and women working side by side, and the United States triumphed over
its enemies in World War II with the help of nearly 500,000 women in the
ranks and millions more in the factories.
   Not surprisingly, women achieved these feats completely unaware that
a few days out of each month they were suffering from a mental disorder.
That’s right. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently approved the
use of Sarafem (fluoxetine) for women suffering from a mental disorder just
three or four days a month — in the “luteal phase” or just before the onset
of menses.
   This “mental disorder” — which the American Psychiatric Association
(APA) has not yet accepted, but which is listed in the appendix of the APA’s
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) — is called
premenstrual dysphoric disorder, or PMDD. It’s a new-and-improved version of
premenstrual syndrome (PMS), which also has not made it to the hit parade of
the official APA list of mental illnesses. The fact that PMDD is listed only
in the diagnostic manual’s appendix reflects the APA’s desire for further
research before accepting it as a full-fledged mental disorder.
   According to the DSM-IV and the FDA, a woman must experience five or
more symptoms before the diagnosis can be made. The unofficial mental
disorder is said to be characterized by the following symptoms:


Markedly depressed mood

Marked anxiety

Marked affectivity

Decreased interest in activities

Feeling sad, hopeless or self-deprecating

Feeling tense, anxious or “on edge”

Persistent irritability, anger and increased interpersonal conflicts

Feeling fatigued, lethargic or lacking in energy

Marked changes in appetite

A subjective feeling of being overwhelmed or out of control

Physical symptoms such as breast tenderness, swelling or bloating.

   Eli Lilly and Co., the Indianapolis-based pharmaceutical company that
makes Sarafem, has been marketing the “new” treatment with such gusto that
there are jokes about the company exhibiting obsessive-compulsive disorder.
It seems there isn’t a magazine to be picked up or a channel to be surfed
that isn’t running a Sarafem advertisement.
   These ads show women expressing many things. One TV spot depicts a
woman trying to button her slacks and looking angry and agitated. Another
scene shows a woman snapping at her husband, “Just leave me alone,” while
still another involves a woman slumped on the couch sobbing. Then there is
the slogan: “Sarafem — More like the woman you are.”
   Lilly reports in its ads that now, “Doctors can treat PMDD with
Sarafem — the first and only prescription medication for PMDD.” The ad
further states that, “Sarafem contains fluoxetine hydrochloride, the same
active ingredient found in Prozac.” But both Sarafem and Prozac are
fluoxetine hydrochloride. According to Laura Miller, marketing associate for
Eli Lilly, “Fluoxetine hydrochloride is the same active ingredient in
Sarafem as in Prozac.” Again and again Insight asked, “Then is it the same
thing?” Again and again Miller only repeated that the two identical doses of
fluoxetine hydrochloride have the same active ingredient.
   Miller refused to acknowledge that Sarafem is just Prozac repackaged,
or that the pill color was changed from green to feminine pink and lavender
to market it for a not-yet-approved “mental disorder” that never before

[CTRL] Television of Interest - 2001-04-09 to 2001-04-15

2001-04-07 Thread tribalzidane

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Monday, April 9, 2001

06:00am - ARTS  ENTERTAINMENT - Christianity: The Second Millennium
Overcoming threats, Christianity emerges as the driving force of Western civilization. 
(Part 2 of 4).   (CC). (Special:Historical, 1hr)

05:00pm - DISCOVERY SCIENCE - Mars -- Pioneering a Planet
The scientists, engineers and astronauts behind the discovery of possible fossils in a 
meteorite from Mars.


Tuesday, April 10, 2001

01:00am - DISCOVERY SCIENCE - Mars -- Pioneering a Planet
The scientists, engineers and astronauts behind the discovery of possible fossils in a 
meteorite from Mars.

06:00am - ARTS  ENTERTAINENT - Christianity: The Second Millennium
Martin Luther ignites a revolution. (Part 3 of 4).   (CC). (Special:Historical, 1hr)

09:00am - DISCOVERY SCIENCE - Mars -- Pioneering a Planet
The scientists, engineers and astronauts behind the discovery of possible fossils in a 
meteorite from Mars.


Wednesday, April 11, 2001

06:00am - ARTS  ENTERTAINMENT - Christianity: The Second Millennium
Christianity sees the rise of the modern world; church and state are separated for the 
first time. (Part 4 of 4).   (CC). (Special:Historical, 1hr)

08:00pm - NBC East (WNBC) - West Wing
Galileo:  Problems plague President Bartlet as he prepares to address thousands of 
schoolchidren including a fire in a Russian nuclear missile silo and lost 
communication with a Mars spacecraft. (CC) (1hr)

08:00pm - TRAVEL CHANNEL - World's Best: Ancient Cultures
Some ancient cultures still exist..  (Special:Travel, 1hr)

09:00pm - TRAVEL CHANNEL - Top Ten Ancient Sites
The top ancient sites on earth..  (Special:Travel, 1hr)

11:00pm - NBC West (KNBC) - West Wing
Galileo:  Problems plague President Bartlet as he prepares to address thousands of 
schoolchidren including a fire in a Russian nuclear missile silo and lost 
communication with a Mars spacecraft. (CC) (1hr)

11:00pm - TRAVEL CHANNEL - World's Best: Ancient Cultures
Some ancient cultures still exist..  (Special:Travel, 1hr)


Thursday, April 12, 2001

12:00am - TRAVEL CHANNEL - Top Ten Ancient Sites
The top ancient sites on earth..  (Special:Travel, 1hr)

03:00am - PBS-X (DBS SATELLITE) - The World of National Geographic "The Power of Water"
The effects of fresh water sources on the lives of Americans; narrator Marsha Mason..  
 (CC, In Stereo). (Special:Documentary, 1hr)

09:00am - HISTORY CHANNEL - 20th Century With Mike Wallace "The Televangelists"
02:00pm - HISTORY CHANNEL - 20th Century With Mike Wallace "The Televangelists"
Popularity and political power of televangelists; Jerry Falwell; Pat Robertson; Jimmy 
Swaggart and Oral Roberts..  (Special:Documentary, 1hr)

08:00pm - DISCOVERY CHANNEL - Dead Sea Scrolls: Unraveling the Mystery
New technologies enable researchers to decipher the ancient documents..  
(Special:Documentary, 1hr)

09:00pm - DISCOVERY CHANNEL - Ancient Puzzles
Researchers theorize about secret codes, ancient puzzles and Egyptian pyramids..  
(Special:Historical, 1hr)


Friday, April 13, 2001

12:00am - DISCOVERY CHANNEL - Dead Sea Scrolls: Unraveling the Mystery
New technologies enable researchers to decipher the ancient documents..  
(Special:Documentary, 1hr)

01:00am - DISCOVERY CHANNEL - Ancient Puzzles
Researchers theorize about secret codes, ancient puzzles and Egyptian pyramids..  
(Special:Historical, 1hr)

04:00am - HISTORY CHANNEL - Year by Year "1952"
1952: the atom bomb; the space race..  (Special:Documentary, 1hr)

05:00pm - DISCOVERY CIVILIZATION - Byzantium -- The Lost Empire
Building the Dream:  How the classical pagan empire of the Romans gave way to the 
Christian world of Byzantium.


Saturday, April 14, 2001

01:00am - DISCOVERY CIVILIZATION - Byzantium -- The Lost Empire
Building the Dream:  How the classical pagan empire of the Romans gave way to the 
Christian world of Byzantium.

02:00pm - DISCOVERY CHANNEL - Ancient Puzzles
Researchers theorize about secret codes, ancient puzzles and Egyptian pyramids..  
(Special:Historical, 1hr)

07:00pm - CNBC - National Geographic Explorer "Raising the Hunley; Shipwreck Hunters"
Archaeologists raise a Confederate submarine; ancient Greek shipwreck..  
(Educational:Nature, 2hr)

10:00pm - CNBC - National Geographic Explorer "Raising the Hunley; Shipwreck Hunters"
Archaeologists raise a Confederate submarine; ancient Greek shipwreck..  
(Educational:Nature, 2hr)


Sunday, April 15, 2001
11:00am - AMERICAN MOVIE CLASSICS - Hollywood Looks at the Bible: Between Heaven and 
Hell.   (CC). (Special:Religious, 1hr)

03:00pm - TRAVEL CHANNEL - World's Best: Ancient Cultures
Some ancient cultures still exist..  (Special:Travel, 1hr)

04:00pm - TRAVEL CHANNEL - Top Ten Ancient Sites
The top ancient sites on earth..  (Special:Travel, 1hr)

07:00pm - HISTORY CHANNEL - World War II in Color "A New World Order"
Extremism erupts into armed conflict..   (CC). (Special:Documentary, 1hr)

07:00pm - TRAVEL CHANNEL - World's Best: Nature's Fury
Violent forces in the physical universe..  

Re: [CTRL] Aquifers Are Nearly DRY (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread Kelly

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Hey!  Lot's of water in Canada so I don't think the US will get its
panties in a knot over wetness shortly.  And then, of course, when the
Americans are dying of thirst they will just take what they need with
the cooperation of our sweet Canadian government.

As a matter of fact, they are already discussing it.

How to divert Canadian water to the US.

So don't worry!  Some US corporation - maybe WATER inc. will make sure
you have fresh water if you can steal it and pay for it.

The interesting joke over the past couple of centuries has been that
Canada is a independent country.

Ha ha!

When the US wants and needs something, they'll take it.

Not that I would want to see anybody in the world die of thirst.
Surely there must be scientists working on taking the salt out of
seawater?

How can desalination be such an impossible venture?

Kelly



Yardbird wrote:

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 Aquifers Are Nearly DRY http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html

 Subj:  A Lesson in Physics

 Major US Groundwater Reserves And Aquifers Are Nearly DRY
 MANY, many of this planet's LARGEST aquifers and
 (naturally occurring) groundwater reservoirs are said to be at
 unprecedented, critically depleted levels and literally right
 on the verge of disappearing completely! INCLUDED in this
 category are certain aquifers which supply water to some of
 this planet's MAJOR population centers.  How EVER, the other
 PRIME cause of the rapid DISAPPEARANCE of drinkable water
 throughout Florida is DROUGHT, plain and simple.

 No RAIN.

 Sound familiar? It sounds to us a lot like what's been going
 on in the Pacific Northwest for THREE years now; in which what
 overwhelming evidence shows is an ARTIFICIAL,
 intentionally induced droughtbrought about by such
 technologies as HAARP, ELF/ULF transmitters and chem trails
 has been wreaking devastating consequences on a huge section
 of North America.

 Weather Modification
 http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenewsdesk.html

 The long lasting California drought in the 80s was caused by a
 massive ridge of high pressure 800 miles off the California
 coast which hovered for extended periods of time, blocking the
 usual flow of moist air coming in from the Pacific and pushing
 storms around to the north. Meteorologists who have analyzed
 this phenomena consider it to be one of the most unusual
 national patterns ever recorded, unique in the annals of
 weather recording. Such long lasting centers of high pressure
 were unheard of until 1977. Evidence suggests that this was
 possibly caused by Woodpecker generated giant standing ELF
 waves which are transmitted by the Soviets intentionally to
 block the flow of normal weather patterns

 From: "Bill Mauldin" - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Secret Rulers Control America's Weather
 http://www.apfn.org/apfn/weather.htm
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Re: [CTRL] Aquifers Are Nearly DRY (fwd)

2001-04-07 Thread c.

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 How can desalination be such an impossible venture?

 Kelly



i *think* it is widely used in the middle east isn't they? just expensive.

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[CTRL] Fwd: The U.N. Plan for Global Control

2001-04-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

So this is part of the Master Plan for Murder led by the Benson's of the
world who will murder their own  

Biggest threat to USA - the grab for the Great Lakes major source of
waterfor years UN has tried to control great lakes through
representatives.

So America, and the late great Rap Brown said "Getta
Gun".America was born at the business end of a gun, and if it is
so to be, will die the same way - but like the Great Khan - do not leave
anything of value for these pigs who steal that which is not
theirs..

As for the birth control and teaching of sex...now I wonder what is
meant by that - is it for people like Jesse Jackson and this Mayor Berry
who with his kind have more than replenished the USA leading to crime
and murder in big city streets?

Welcome to the New World Order and Land of UNwonder why that UN
doesn't move to South Africa - are they afraid?

Saba

THE U.N. PLAN FOR GLOBAL CONTROL
The Habitat II Agenda
by Berit Kjos
Bicycles instead of cars? Dense apartment clusters instead of single
homes? Community rituals instead of churches? "Human rights" instead of
religious freedom? The UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat II)
which met June 3-14 in Istanbul, painted an alarming picture of the 21st
century community. The American ways-free speech, individualism, travel,
and Christianity-are out. A new set of economic, environmental, and
social guidelines are in. Citizenship, democracy, and education have
been redefined. Handpicked civil leaders will implement UN "laws",
bypassing state and national representatives to work directly with the
UN. And politically correct "tolerance"-meaning "the rejection of
dogmatism and absolutism" as well as "appreciation" for the world's
religions and lifestyles-is "not only a moral duty, it is also a
political and legal requirement."1
Hard to believe? Not for veteran UN observers who faced boos and hisses
for expressing concern in open UN assemblies. Nor for pro-family members
of NGOs (Non-Governmental Organizations) who faced exclusion from public
dialogues for opposing feminist commander Bella Abzug and her radical
agenda. And not for those who watched the ecstatic welcome given Fidel
Castro and his anti-American diatribe.
Yet, our president and our non-elected American delegates, headed by
U.S. Secretary Henry Cisneros, endorse this revolutionary plan, and our
U.S. Department of Education is already establishing the framework for
its local implementation. Why? What is happening?
PRO-COMMUNIST IDEALS. "We are the world and the world does not yield to
masters nor to suicidal policies," declared Castro, concluding his June
14 plenary remarks aimed at Western capitalist nations. "The world does
not accept that a minority of selfish, insane and irresponsible people
lead it to annihilation."
"Fidel, Fidel..." shouted the audience. The thunderous applause followed
him all the way back to the Cuban section on the other side of the hall,
where fans lined up to shake his hand.
Why are you so enthusiastic?" I asked some of his fans after the
session.
"Because he stood up to America," someone answered.
"Because he is a living myth," explained another. "He was a simple
guerrilla, fighting for the oppressed against the rich and powerful."
"Fighting for the oppressed..." The UN claims that mission, but
third-world women who have faced its abusive birth control practices
tell a different story. Like the Communist Manifesto, the alluring UN
promises designed to win support cloak an agenda that shows little
compassion once power has been won.
In fact, Communist ideology permeated major NGO (non-governmental
organizations) workshops, official UN literature, and the organizational
guidelines for local communities. Entering the huge "Best Practices"
exhibition of model cities, visitors immediately faced wall-sized
pictures and elaborate models of Chinese housing projects and community
plans. Displays from the rest of the world shared the strips along the
outer perimeter of the cavernous hall.
Behind the huge Chinese section, visitors watched Turner Broadcasting
videos. Featuring Jane Fonda who once brought anti-American greetings to
North Vietnam, each film taught a politically correct plan for personal
empowerment: A roomful of men learn to use Singer sewing machines. Women
are trained to run a collective construction company. A sad mother
holding a crying baby brings a politically correct message: "Baby
Miguel's life would be different if his mother was educated and
working." A tough Jamaican supervisor at a women's collective shouts,
"We don't want to make babies, we want to make money! We can become
meaningful people to society without having children! WE MUST PRODUCE,
NOT REPRODUCE!"
POPULATION CONTROL. The Turner-Fonda message matches the feminist
agenda. Former U.S. congresswoman Bella Abzug,2 who had led the
onslaught on traditional values at the 1995 UN conference in Beijing,
now helped engineer an official partnership between UN leaders, 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Guns 101]

2001-04-07 Thread BB





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 a.An armed man is a citizen.
  An unarmed man is a subject.

 b.A gun in the hand is better
  than a cop on the phone.

 c.Smith  Wesson.
  The original point and click interface.

 d.Gun control is not about guns,
  it is about control.

 e.If guns are outlawed,
  can we use swords?

 f. If guns cause crime,
  then pencils cause misspelled words.

 g.Free men do not
  ask permission to bear arms.

 h.If you don't know your rights,
  you don't have any.

 i.Those who trade liberty for security
  have neither.

 j.The United States Constitution (C) 1791.
  All Rights Reserved.

 k.What part of "shall not be infringed"
  do you not understand.

 l. The Second Amendment is in place
  in case the other amendments are ignored.

 m.64,999,987 firearm owners
  killed no one yesterday.

 n.Guns have only two enemies,
  Rust and Politicians.

 o.Know guns, know peace and safety;
  No guns, no peace nor safety.

 p.You don't shoot to kill;
  you shoot to stay alive.

 q.What is 911?
  A government sponsored "Dial a Prayer".

 r.Assault is a behavior, not a device.

 s.Criminals love gun control.
  It makes their job easier and safer.

 t. If guns cause crime,
  then matches cause arson.

 u.Only a government that is afraid
  of it's citizens trys to control and disarm them.

 v.You have only the rights
  you are willing to fight for.

 w.Enforce the "gun control laws" in place;
  don't make more.

 x.When you remove the people's right
  to bear arms, you create slaves.

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  would never have happened
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Re: [CTRL] There's hope for Colleen/Saba after all. Thank you Robert White.

2001-04-07 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Nurev Ind. wrote:
I think that a replacement head from a monkey would greatly improve
Saba's IQ.

Science is a glorious thing when put to humanitarian use.

"Humanitarian" according to whom?

Seems to me that transplanting a monkey head onto Aleisha/Colleen would
be demeaning to the whole simian race...

What do you have against the poor monkey?   ;-)


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[CTRL] Drug-Related TV - 4-10-2001 to 4-15-2001

2001-04-07 Thread tribalzidane

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All times are central.  Note that PBS-X is for DBS Satellite (Dish Network
and DirecTV) as programming is delayed 24 hours for DBS Satellite viewers.
The programs labeled as PBS-X will probably air 24 hours earlier for OTA and
cable viewers.

Tuesday, April 10, 2001

10:00am - AE - Magnum, P.I. "By Its Cover"
A friend cons unwitting Thomas and TC into delivering an encyclopedia
concealing a marijuana shipment..   (CC). (Series:Crime, 1hr)

11:30am - TV LAND - Dragnet "The Prophet"
The detectives probe a cult involved in drug dealing..  (Special:Docudrama,
30m)

04:00pm - AE - Magnum, P.I. "By Its Cover"
A friend cons unwitting Thomas and TC into delivering an encyclopedia
concealing a marijuana shipment..   (CC). (Series:Crime, 1hr)

09:00pm - PBS-X (DBS SATELLITE) - Frontline "Medicating Kids"
Investigation into children's growing use of psychoactive drugs..   (CC, In
Stereo). (Series:Magazine, 1hr)


Wednesday, April 11, 2001

02:00am - PBS-X (DBS SATELLITE) - Frontline "Medicating Kids"
Investigation into children's growing use of psychoactive drugs..   (CC, In
Stereo). (Series:Magazine, 1hr)

07:00am - KTTV (LOS ANGELES) - Cops "Texas"
In Houston: drug bust; drunken driver loses control; train helps capture
suspects; marijuana bust..   (CC, In Stereo). (Series:Reality, 30m)

05:30pm - COURT TV - America's Most Wanted: Final Justice
08:30pm - COURT TV - America's Most Wanted: Final Justice
Accused killer escapes through a window; drug smugglers taunt customs
agents..   (In Stereo). (Series:Reality, 30m)


Thursday, April 12, 2001

01:30am - COURT TV - America's Most Wanted: Final Justice
Marijuana grower kills his partner and an agent; fleeing robber loses glass
eye; child molester..   (In Stereo). (Series:Reality, 30m)

01:30am - TV LAND - Barney Miller "Ramon"
A teen-age drug addict grabs Fish's gun..  (Series:Comedy, 30m)

02:00am - WNYW (NEW YORK) - Cops "Texas"
In Houston: drug bust; drunken driver loses control; train helps capture
suspects; marijuana bust..   (CC, In Stereo). (Series:Reality, 30m)


Friday, April 13, 2001

01:00am - COURT TV - Cops
Portland, Ore.: battling brothers; marijuana-grower; Sweeney and dog chase a
car-accident suspect..   (CC, In Stereo). (Series:Reality, 30m)

08:00pm - WPIX (NEW YORK) - Popular "Ur-Ine Trouble"
11:00pm - KTLA (LOS ANGELES) - Popular "Ur-Ine Trouble"
Josh tests positive in a mandatory drug test..   (CC, Rerun, In Stereo).
(Series:Comedy, 1hr)


Saturday, April 14, 2001

01:00am - KWGN (DENVER) - Popular "Ur-Ine Trouble"
Josh tests positive in a mandatory drug test..   (CC, Rerun, In Stereo).
(Series:Comedy, 1hr)

10:00am - TRIO - All Saints "Boys Will Be Boys"
06:00pm - TRIO - All Saints "Boys Will Be Boys"
A lethal intake of drugs and alcohol bring two boys to the ward; Bron starts
as an ambulance officer..  (Series:Drama, 1hr)


Sunday, April 15, 2001

03:00am - PBS-X (DBS SATELLITE) - Frontline "Medicating Kids"
Investigation into children's growing use of psychoactive drugs..   (CC, In
Stereo). (Series:Magazine, 1hr)

12:00pm - E! - The E! True Hollywood Story "Dana Plato"
Actress Dana Plato of ``Diff'rent Strokes'' dies of a drug overdose..   (CC,
In Stereo). (Special:Documentary, 1hr)

05:00pm - PBS-X (DBS SATELLITE) - Uncommon Knowledge "The High and the
Mighty: The War on Drugs"
America's drug problem..   (CC). (News  Information:News, 30m)

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[CTRL] Statistics Don't Lie!

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Medical Evidence: Gun Control Won't Solve Crime

Wes Vernon
Saturday, April 7, 2001
WASHINGTON – The gun control lobby has just received a stunning setback in a new
article appearing in the spring issue of the Medical Sentinel.
Written by Miguel A. Faria, M.D., the study finds that most gun violence studies of
the past two decades are based on flawed methodology and unduly influenced by
political agendas, leading to biased and incorrect conclusions.
The Medical Sentinel, the official journal of the Association of American Physicians
and Surgeons, argues in effect that many of those who conducted the studies decided
in advance what they wanted to prove, and then were "prejudiced" by that goal. Thus,
Dr. Faria argues, the studies were not objective at all.
The doctor, who is editor in chief of the Sentinel, debunks a number of incorrect,
widely accepted claims "promoted by anti-gun interest groups based on tainted
studies."
Faria's findings are that:
Women in particular are NOT in more danger if they carry or own guns.
The ease of access to or availability of guns is NOT the cause of crime.
Mass killings would NOT be avoided if guns were not available.
And finally, gun violence is NOT the leading accidental cause of death in children.
The health establishment's stated objective in 1979, according to Faria, was "total
eradication of handguns in the United States," and the follow-up studies were
influenced by that objective.
The doctor faults "those in public health with a proclivity toward the promulgation
of preordained research such as the gun and violence research conducted by many
investigators with a gun control agenda and disseminated in the medical journals."
"Much of this information is tainted, result-oriented, and based on what can only be
characterized as poor science," he concluded.
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[CTRL] The Sixth Extinction

2001-04-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/9902/fngm/index.html



The Sixth Extinction

Text by Virginia Morell


The first orange rays of the sun are just beginning to touch the saw grass 
prairie of Everglades National Park in Florida when our helicopter pilot 
lifts off from a small airport nearby. He turns low over the park, skimming 
above the gray-green grasses and morning mist. Here and there small stands of 
pencil-thin native slash pine show dark green against the pale grasslands. 
But it’s the open marshy prairie that we seek, home to the endangered Cape 
Sable seaside sparrow. Heading south, the pilot searches for a particular 
point on a transect map, then banks and flies due west. Twenty minutes later 
we’re on the ground. “Here’s your first spot,” he says over the radio to 
Stuart Pimm, the conservation biologist seated beside me in the back. In 
front another biologist, Sonny Bass, gives us the thumbs-up sign. Pimm and I, 
dressed in olive green flight suits and white helmets, jump into the wet 
marsh and run a short way from the helicopter. 


For a moment this seems almost like a scene from Apocalypse Now. The 
helicopter’s blades whip the air, bending the grasses in a wide swath all 
around and obliterating every sound except the wap-wap-wap of its rotors. As 
it peels away, ferrying Bass to the next site a kilometer away, Pimm removes 
his helmet and turns to me. “Welcome,” he says, his voice rising above the 
fading roar of the helicopter, “to the front lines of saving biodiversity.” 


An avuncular researcher from the University of Tennessee, Pimm is not merely 
being theatrical. Based on his and his colleagues’ calculations, some 50 
percent of the world’s flora and fauna could be on a path to extinction 
within a hundred years. And everything is affected: fish, birds, insects, 
plants, and mammals. By Pimm’s count 11 percent of birds, or 1,100 species 
out of the world’s nearly 10,000, are on the edge of extinction; it’s 
doubtful that the majority of these 1,100 will live much beyond the end of 
the next century. The picture is not pretty for plants either. A team of 
respected botanists recently reported that one in eight plants is at risk of 
becoming extinct. “It’s not just species on islands or in rain forests or 
just birds or big charismatic mammals,” says Pimm. “It’s everything and 
it’s everywhere. It’s here in this national park. It is a worldwide epidemic 
of extinctions.” 


Such a rate of extinction has occurred only five times since complex life 
emerged, and each time it was caused by a catastrophic natural disaster. For 
instance, geologists have found evidence that a meteorite crashed into Earth 
65 million years ago, leading to the demise of the dinosaurs. That was the 
most recent major extinction. Today the Earth is again in extinction’s 
grip—but the cause has changed. The sixth extinction is not happening because 
of some external force. It is happening because of us, Homo sapiens, an 
“exterminator species,” as one scientist has characterized humankind. The 
collective actions of humans—developing and paving over the landscape, 
clear-cutting forests, polluting rivers and streams, altering the 
atmosphere’s protective ozone layer, and populating nearly every place 
imaginable—are bringing an end to the lives of creatures across the Earth. 
“I think we must ask ourselves if this is really what we want to do to God’s 
creation,” says Pimm. “To drive it to extinction? Because extinction really 
is irreversible; species that go extinct are lost forever. This is not like 
Jurassic Park. We can’t bring them back.” 


In Pimm’s eyes people should be stewards of their neighboring species. 
That’s why he’s here at dawn in the Everglades, fighting to save the life of 
a little brown-and-white songbird with a smattering of gold feathers above 
its eyes. 


Found only in this park, Big Cypress National Preserve, and nearby areas, the 
Cape Sable sparrow was once fairly common in the Everglades’ hundred square 
miles [160.9 square kilometers] of prairie lands, which lie adjacent to its 
better known “river of grass.” In 1992 the sparrow’s population registered a 
healthy 6,400 individuals. By 1995 the sparrow’s numbers had taken a 
nosedive: Its population dropped by 60 percent to 2,600. “It was clearly on 
its way out,” says Pimm, turning to set his helmet on the ground. “And to me 
that was unconscionable. In a national park of this size [the Everglades 
encompasses 1.5 million acres] (.6075 million hectares) and in the richest 
country in the world, species shouldn’t be going extinct because of our 
actions. These areas, after all, were set up for their protection.” 


Raising his binoculars, Pimm surveys the surrounding grasses, then cups his 
ear to listen for the sparrow’s call. “Ahhh, there’s one. Do you hear it? 
Listen for a chit-chit-twe,” he says, imitating the bird’s short, quick 
notes and insect-like buzz. We stand silently, and a few moments later the 
call 

[CTRL] Medical Evidence Gun Control Won't Solve Crime

2001-04-07 Thread tnohava



 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/6/184457.shtml
Medical Evidence: Gun Control Won't Solve Crime
Wes Vernon
Saturday, April 7, 2001
WASHINGTON – The gun control lobby has just received a stunning setback in a
new article appearing in the spring issue of the Medical Sentinel.
Written by Miguel A. Faria, M.D., the study finds that most gun violence
studies of the past two decades are based on flawed methodology and unduly
influenced by political agendas, leading to biased and incorrect
conclusions.

The Medical Sentinel, the official journal of the Association of American
Physicians and Surgeons, argues in effect that many of those who conducted
the studies decided in advance what they wanted to prove, and then were
"prejudiced" by that goal. Thus, Dr. Faria argues, the studies were not
objective at all.

The doctor, who is editor in chief of the Sentinel, debunks a number of
incorrect, widely accepted claims "promoted by anti-gun interest groups
based on tainted studies."

Faria's findings are that:


Women in particular are NOT in more danger if they carry or own guns.

The ease of access to or availability of guns is NOT the cause of crime.

Mass killings would NOT be avoided if guns were not available.

And finally, gun violence is NOT the leading accidental cause of death in
children.
The health establishment's stated objective in 1979, according to Faria, was
"total eradication of handguns in the United States," and the follow-up
studies were influenced by that objective.

The doctor faults "those in public health with a proclivity toward the
promulgation of preordained research such as the gun and violence research
conducted by many investigators with a gun control agenda and disseminated
in the medical journals."

"Much of this information is tainted, result-oriented, and based on what can
only be characterized as poor science," he concluded.

 Medical Evidence Gun Control Won't Solve Crime.url