[CTRL] Col. Tom Bearden on Clearnance Sale at Redstone Arsenal
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Al Martin of AlMartinRaw website has been writing articles
supposedly exposing the sale of classified technology and even
weaponry from Redstone Arsenal at Huntsville, Alabama, very
near where I live. I was further alarmed to read that Al
Martin also claims to have exclusive knowledge of the leaking
of biochemical weaponry aging at the Arsenal. I forwarded the
articles to local TV stations and one newspaper but the TV
stations did not even reply and the paper sent me a form
letter thanking me for my interest in the paper and giving me
subscription rates!
So, when Mr. Martin continued with his supposed inside
knowledge on all these meetings and events and even boasted
that the FBI has increased the number of agents, etc. and
implied he was somehow responsible, I began to try to think of
a way to investigate a bit further on this myself. Short of
scaling the wall at midnight, of course.
I could only think of one person whom I regarded as being both
on the inside enough to know what was going on and on the
outside enough to be honest about it and that was Col. Tom
Bearden. As most of you know, he is the definitive theorist
on magnetic/scalar energy and has a world reputation in many
such areas. The Dept. of Energy has more articles by him on
the subject of renewable/free energy than any other physicist.
He has the reputation of being very independent and honest,
very much his own person.
So, Sunday afternoon I had occasion to speak with him and
discuss the matter at length. He assured me that it is mostly
routine Army/Navy Surplus fare and much of it available to the
public. The combination of two operations resulted in the
shifting of a great deal of equipment around and the
elimination of that which was obsolete. {Amelia pretended to
know what two Operations had combined but really does not
remember} I have purchased things with my sons at the base
surplus and they DO have a huge selection of some rather odd
items including electronic gadgetry and components.
Col. Tom assured me that nothing of the nature described by
Martin is happening. He said perhaps the relocation of some
equipment might appear to somebody to have been sold but a
check would just turn up a new location on base. Even the
obsolete electronics which were sold were certainly nothing
classified nor secretive. All weaponry is present and
accounted for at all times. He further questioned the
motivation of AL Martin and I was very surprised that he knew
all about the articles as apparently do the officials of the
Arsenal.
Col. Tom further stated that there never has been the presence
biologicals at Redstone and pointed out that ALL things begin
to leak in minute quantities as they age but everything at the
Arsenal is contained within containers within containers. He
pointed out the 5,000 families there replete with children of
their own who are in charge of this storage and the
foolishness of assuming they would allow such conditions to
exit. What would be their motive for exposing their families
to such contamination? It would be the government's
responsibility to finance the maintenance of any such items
and not to anyone's advantage to allow it to deteriorate. It
was the second weekend of the swimming pools being open and
there certainly was evidence of children everywhere. I do not
think the military personnel would tolerate such hazards
around their own families. There are many people who have
been there for a very long time and no part of the Arsenal is
unknown to them. It is NOT the wilderness it once was and
with the growth of the city, has become completely encircled
by development.
I find Col. Tom Bearden to be much more believable in this
regard than AlMartinRaw. He admonished me repeatedly to think
why Martin might be doing this and I have thought about that a
great deal. The most obvious reason is money as he is selling
books, etc. and apparently seeks publicity with his outrageous
and unsubstantiated claims. Could he have still more
motivation as yet to be revealed? I am satisfied with this
explanation that I received. And I find Bearden extremely
interesting. I was not aware of his theory on weather
modification and will post something about it later.
Amazon.com has a list of 8 books by Bearden, mostly out of
print but they will locate one for you. He is still working
with others in the field on the magnetic generator. I do not
understand why, with the energy shortage facing this country,
more is not being done in this area. But then that is yet
another conspiracy.
~Amelia~
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[CTRL] Lt. Col. Thomas E. Bearden bio with links
-Caveat Lector- There is mention on this site of Bearden attending a conference organized by Ira Einhorn who was convicted of murdering his girlfriend but claimed to have been 'framed' or set-up' in order to be discredited for his work in this area. Yet another conspiracy. http://www.akasha.de/~aton/Bearden.html begin 666 Lt. Col. Thomas E. Bearden.url M6T1%1D%53%1=#0I05-%55),/6AT=' Z+R]W=WN86MAVAA+F1E+WYA=]N M+T)E87)D96XN:'1M; T*#0I;26YT97)N9713:]R=-U=%T-E523#UH='1P M.B\O=W=W+F%K87-H82YD92]^871O;B]96%R95N+FAT;6P-DUO9EF:65D 5/44P-SDX.$1#-3E%,T,P,#%00T* ` end A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE VIRTUAL TIMES Tom Bearden
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[CTRL] Fw: O'Reilly: 'I'm on a Jihad Against Elite Media'
-Caveat Lector- ~Amelia~ : Monday, May 21, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: O'Reilly To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:04 AM Subject: Fw: YEAH Baby - O'Reilly Rocks!!! http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/5/20/12194 2 Sunday May 20, 2001; 1:18 pm EDT O'Reilly: 'I'm on a Jihad Against Elite Media' In an electrifying address that served notice on old guard network news executives, white-hot Fox News Channel star Bill O'Reilly warned Saturday night that he's on a jihad against the mainstream media and the politicians they favor. I am going to hold these S.O.B.'s accountable for what they do, the Fox phenom told Talkers Magazine's New Media Seminar, which awarded him it's annual Freedom of Speech award. They want power in this country? They come through us. Because we speak for the people. We're the only ones who do. In a ten minute impromptu speech that was punctuated by the audience's rousing cheers, O'Reilly said the success of the Fox News Channel is evidence of the nationwide desire to overthrow the old media guard, and noted that his interview last week with CBS anchorman Dan Rather was pretty much the signature of their decline. Among Rather's most damaging admissions: his belief that Bill Clinton is an honest man and his professed ignorance about the details Juanita Broaddrick's rape allegation. I'm in the vanguard on television of our search and destroy mission about the elite media, the Fox News host told the Talkers crowd. And I'm proud of the fact that we have taken these people down -- not on a personal level -- but on a level that's going to open up communications and information to all Americans. O'Reilly singled out New York Sen. Hillary Clinton as the kind of politician the new media would soon make extinct. No longer are they going to be able to do the Hillary dance. Hillary is the last, alright? Hillary did the dance -- 'I'm not going to talk to anybody. I'm going to cheat, I'm going to steal. I'm going to get want I want.' She won. That's the end, O'Reilly warned of Hillary's style of campaign. From now on they're going to have to come through us. The one-time ABC News journalist's disdain for his mainstream media colleagues was palpable. I don't want to have lunch with them. I don't want to go to the parties with them. I don't want to hang out with Barbara Walters, O'Reilly told the crowd. And the reason is because those people are not looking out for us -- and for the people we represent. The Fox newsman slammed the staggering exclusionary bias of the networks' news divisions, predicting, No longer are you going to have five white guys who live in Westchester having a stranglehold on what Americans see on the network news. By the end of O'Reilly's address, the Talkers crowd was on its feet, cheering wildly and mobbing him for autographs. His low-key delivery belied the go-for-the-jugular sentiments he conveyed, which were nothing less than an alternative media call to arms. Here's the full transcript of Fox newsman Bill O'Reilly's address at Talkers Magazine's New Media Seminar, May 19, 2001: All right. I know it's been a long evening and I'm going to keep my remarks short, pithy -- as is my want. I wouldn't be here if not for talk radio. Obviously The O'Reilly Factor is the first television version of a free form talk radio. There's no question about it. I can take some credit for developing the program but I obviously stole the concept from you guys. I appreciate that very much. The second thing is; I could not have become the success that we've become if not for the support of talk radio. As Blanquita (Cullum) accurately mentioned, when my book came out, I couldn't get on the Today Show -- I still haven't been on the Today Show -- or any of the network venues at all. And that's what I want to talk to you about tonight. The dramatic change that we're seeing, not only in television but also in radio and in the print media, is, I think, a phenomenon that hasn't been fully explored. And it's going to influence everybody in this room if you make your living in communications. The old guard is dead. They're done. They're finished. It's not going to come back. And, if any of you saw my interview with Dan Rather this week (Applause), that was pretty much the signature of their decline. And I respect Mr. Rather. And I gave him half of my program to explain how he sees his role as the managing editor and anchorman of CBS News. You can make your own determination as to how well he handled himself, I'm not going to comment on it. But I will tell you that there's a fundamental change going on. Peter Jennings gave an address on Tuesday at the Fred Friendly award he got at Quinnipiac College. And he said to all of the network pinheads (laughter), um -- the reason that they're in decline is that they're all the same and that they're all politically correct and that the corporate structure they have to work under has strangled their
Re: [CTRL] Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/22/01 6:54:06 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sure it was just a software glitch. You know the one~~it has a tendency to do this when the post leans too far to the right. Other things can activate it also. LOL! Cute but I really don't think that's true...and by the way I too walk the fine line by mumming myself when I'd like to discuss the holocaust...s'pose you'd call me a revisionist or something...just seems like most people buy the Jewish party line and the facts just don't support that. Bill. === Poor Bill. Those nasty Jews just won't let you tell the truth about the Holocaust. It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Chamish: Expelling The Settlers (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- MIKE SPITZER wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Barry Chamish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Expelling The Settlers A LESSON IN EVIL - EXPELLING THE SETTLERS By Barry Chamish One of the secret clauses of Oslo negotiated by the likes of Uri Savir, Yossi Beilin and Shimon Peres was a promise to the PLO to hand over all of Judea, Samaria and Gaza to them. That meant expelling the Jewish residents, the so-called settlers from their homes. The means agreed to was to spread total demoralization by murdering the political and spiritual leaders of the Jewish community there. This required cooperation between the PLO and a select group of Shabak officers. This cooperation has not ended. Yes about Oslo. The rest sounds like bullshit to me. I don't buy it. Joshua2 The demoralization by murder of admired leaders, the most recent Binyamin Kahane, has not had the desired effect and may even have strengthened the resolve of many in the settler community. So in the past two months a far more insidious campaign has been initiated, and it involves murdering people who had recently suffered tragic losses. The murder of Assaf Herskovitz, in the exact ambush spot where Binyamin Kahane's vehicle was riddled with 62 bullets last December, is a case in point. Assaf's father was shot dead barely two months earlier while driving his car near Efrat. His son died the same way. One brother remained to say Kaddish over his father and sibling. The enormous disaster which befell the Herskovitz family has been a huge blow to the morale of their community, Ofra. As it was planned to be. It is no different than the heartbreaking case of the 14 year old son of Sheri Mandel, an American immigrant living in Tekoa. He took a short hike from his home with a friend, they were set upon by Arabs who tied them up and bludgeoned them to death, cracking open their skulls with rocks. After delighting in the screams of the boys as each rock opened more of their brains, the murderers took further pleasure in the sadistic coup de grace of ripping the bodies apart with knives. Tonight I received news not yet reported in the Israeli media. Sheri Mandel's home was sniped at, with a bullet entering the bedroom of her nine year old daughter. Had she been in the room, she would have joined the list of double murders. Sheri took the hint and abandoned her home in Tekoa tonight. She will likely not be the last. Her family was targeted for demoralizing tragedy and others will follow. Others, such as the Mizrahi family. Idit, aged 21, was shot dead last week while driving past the settlement of Michmash. Her brother died in combat previously. Only one son survives. At Idit's funeral an unexpected eulogist offered to make peace with Arafat on his terms. The demoralization continues. The methods are heartless and ghastly. Those behind them will stop at no atrocity in their war against a Jewish presence in the land of their forefathers. Take the example of 14 year old Amihai Yifrah. He and three buddies were playing in the youth recreation center of Netzer Hazani in the Gaza Strip, when a PLO mortar shell fell on them. Three weeks later Amihai was released from hospital and returned home. A mortar shell landed on that home the next day. This was no accident. Call an actuarial statistician and ask him to calculate the likelihood that these dual tragedies are random flukes. Then reach a horrible realization that the Arab killers had to have had exact intelligence about the locations of their victims and they were in no position to gather it. Only Israeli intelligence fed to them could have assured the desired, bloody effect. We are observing raw evil in Judea and Samaria, so raw that even sniping a 10 month old Hebron baby in her mother's arms is considered a legitimate operation. This highly trained murderer was likely a graduate of CIA sniper training received in Virginia based on the recommendations of the CIA's then-Middle East go-between, George Tenet. This team of snipers has been coordinating its activities with their counterparts in the Israeli General Services (Shin Bet or Shabak). They have been under order from Shimon Peres since the summer of 1993. Their existence was a concept conceived by Peres's deputy, Yossi Beilin. And Arafat is playing his role despite the deliberate media leaks that he has lost control of his forces and senses. He has survived all these years by obeying. He was ordered to start the next Middle East War by his foreign handlers and he is doing their dirty work to their satisfaction. Those who insist on knowing who the masters
Re: [CTRL] Lt. Col. Thomas E. Bearden bio with links
-Caveat Lector- Think Ira Einhorn has not been convicted yet - he took off, and is sitll I believe in France fighting extradiction. He had gone to Ireland to hole up and the Irish did not know he he was - Einhorn latcted onto people of importance. Colonel Beardon according to this one book, had a friend who won the Nobel Peace Award and this is the type of people Ira would latch onto. There is a very one sided story on web about Ira which I will forward again and of course, Ira Einhorn - Einhorn means One Horn hence the nickname the Unicorn. No net big enough yet to get that one on Noah's Ark. Ira latched onto the Shah of Iran toostrange here, right - a Zonist and an Arab? But then look what happened to the Shah. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Col. Tom Bearden on Clearnance Sale at Redstone Arsenal
-Caveat Lector- Well Amelia I had brother in law at Redstone - and he too was a true patriot who worked with von Braun. As they said, our German Scientists were smarter than Russia's German Scientists. People do not mention these Communist/Nazi Scientists who went to Russia do they? This is the two factors for which I looked many years..before we got to the moon, all this propaganda put out JFK will be murdered, RFK will be murdered, RUSSIA WILL BEAT US TO THE MOON and this was work of one woman backed up by Hollywood and News Media who at one time called her a divine prophetess and that is when I nailed her and when I wrote to Ted Kennedy he wrote Dixon's boss, King Features Syndicate, to keep his name and name of his family out of her columns, where she marked them for murder Best propagandists are one's who use name of God - but as the bible write and I pointed out to Mrs. Dixon there is a conspiracy in the midsts of our prophets.for prophecy equates to propagandano wonder Nixon played Home on the Range, over and overbut nobody was listened. (for never is heard a discouraging word). As J Edgar Hoover said when one is about to take on an enemy find out everything you can Look as Israel - last night a group of Palestinians objecting because they were about to have the Star of Solomon stamped on them and said hey, this is Nazi Germany? Right on - only they are operating out of Russia, not USA and not Germany. As is said all roads lead to Israel for not the Gentry, but the KGB/Mossad Nazis, have landed. The Colonel has solutions I think to many things wrong in this country and also believe you are quiete correct in thinking maybe has key to answering all energy problems - Remember the movie Batteries Not Included - little space ships traveling the universe with battery operated spacecraftour space ships use these batteries.and some assisted in taking their craft to Mars and the Moon and are still out their - MIR used big solar powered batteries.I want a big battery to operate my house.. Or do we take that one big step back for mankind and get Windmills or now they want us to rely on Red China for electricity? Who dropped that bomb. Saba Knew that stuff about Redstone had to be a crock; am glad you had opportunity to speak to the Colonel.. Had it not been for von Braun think - Russian and Chinese satellites would be scouting the skies - Russia landing on the moon first? And in these days those bastards in Israel butchering Palestinians starting WWIII - well if they want divine intervention to save their hides when those Arabs get good and mad - hope we all whistle Dixie and let what will be will be.. So they have the matches and the Arabs have the oil..I say those Arabs have all those oil fields wired to go if anyone tries to steal them.so who will light the match for the Israelies? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] An Example Of How Bioreseach Could Kill Us All
-Caveat Lector- Didn't the USA just buy $45,000,000.00 worth of vaccine from England for use of course, to be given primairly to the young and babies by law? And has Prince Philip died and come back as a virus as he so desired - one so deadly it would solve over population problem? Such integrity should not go by unrewarded? So would ike to know if anyone remembers what vaccine was purchased from England? And then consider the sanitary brilliant conditions under which the Chinese profit by the new abortion pill which they now manufacture to murder American babies before they are born? Know how to solve part of our population problem and is there really an American problem but sending back 17 million illegal entries who have brought disease into this ountry would be a good start - in particular, the 18 thousand per year handpicked from Africa who must have AIDS (as if the other emmigrants to this country are not suspect) as only qualification to come to America? Next they will bring on the Lepers if they have not already for already did you know there is a leper community in USA and this disease is allegedly on rise, though not too many yet. Take the Statute of Liberty back to France and sit it on the EU shore. And the words of Emma Lazarus who wrote give us the refuse as though we were a city dump? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Eric Reeves Against Africa
-Caveat Lector- The European-Sudanese Public Affairs Council 1 Northumberland Avenue London WC2N 5BW England Tel:020 7872 5434 Fax:020 7753 2848 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date of Publication: May 2001 ERIC REEVES AGAINST AFRICA When Smith College's Dr Eric Reeves demands an end to the Sudanese oil project, his poorly-informed campaign attempting to interfere with economic investment in Sudan brings him into direct conflict with the other countries within the Horn of Africa region. Reeves has, for example, in the past challenged the following comment made by one of the petroleum companies involved in Sudan that [i]ncreasingly, Sudan is becoming a relative source of regional stability. (1) With an unbounded arrogance unsupported by reality, not only does Dr Reeves apparently believe that he knows what is in the best interests of the Sudanese people, but that he also knows more about Sudan, and its involvement regionally, than the governments and peoples of the Horn of Africa. Dr Reeves' claims about events within Sudan have already been devastated His allegations that the Sudanese government has displaced all the population around the oil fields, orchestrating a ferocious scorched- earth policy in the area of the oil fields and pipelines (2), including, for example, claims in July 1999, that [h]uge swaths of land around the oil fields and pipelines are presently cleared of all human life and sustenance (3) were comprehensively disproved by satellite images taken of the areas in question and scientifically analyses by Geoffrey John Oxlee, one of Britain's leading experts in the field, and a former head of the United Kingdom Joint Air Reconnaissance Intelligence Centre Mr Oxlee stated: there is no evidence of appreciable human migration from any of the seven sites examined. (4) To the contrary, he further stated that analysis revealed that once the sites were developed, then people did come into the area, and in fact it looked as if people developed around the oil sites rather than going away from it. (5) Dr Reeves' claims about Sudan within its region are similarly easily disproved. Possibly as a result of prejudice or simple naivety, Dr Reeves chooses to ignore the simple fact that Sudan by any measure has become a source of regional stability economically and politically. All Dr Reeves need have done was follow some of the international news agency reports on Sudan in recent months. Given that Dr Reeves claims to have approached Sudan with the eyes of a professional researcher, claiming [l]ong hours and days of assiduous reading, archival retrieval, and real-time communications with Sudan experts in and out of government (6) his inability to find relevant material is puzzling. He has either not been professional enough to find searingly relevant Sudan articles published by first-class international news agencies such as Reuters and Agence France Presse, or he has seen them and has not had the intellectual courage to address material contradicting his thesis. Dr Reeves' credibility as a commentator has already been extensively questioned in The Return of the 'Ugly American': Eric Reeves and Sudan. (7) His partisan myopia with regard to Sudan, and its position regionally, is once more clear for all to see. Dr Reeves seems to have missed the Agence France Presse report in February 2000 headlined Sudan Heading for Improved Ties with Neighbours. (8) Sudan has, over the past three years, emerged as an economic and political leader of its region. This has culminated in its hosting of the Eighth Heads of State summit of the regional Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) body in November 2000. Sudanese President Omer al-Bashir was elected Chairman of the Assembly of Heads of State and Government of IGAD at the November meeting. IGAD comprises seven eastern and central African countries, Kenya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Sudan, Uganda and Somalia. In addition, on 12 February 2001 President al-Bashir was also elected Chairman of the Community of Sahel-Saharan States (COMESSA or CEN-SAD). COMESSA is a body which brings together sixteen north African states. Its members are Sudan, Egypt, Nigeria, Morocco, Chad, Eritrea, Tunisia, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Niger, Senegal, Central African Republic, Burkina Faso, Mali and Chad. The Secretary General of the Organisation of African Unity, Salim Ahmed Salim, also attended the COMESSA summit. (9) Sudan additionally plays a central role in another regional African grouping, the Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa. It has additionally been at the forefront of establishing a free-trade area under the Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA). COMESA transport and communication ministers met, for example, in Khartoum in October 2000 to address crucial issues such as the implementation of regional air, road and railway transport. (10) Sudan's relations with Egypt are at their best since the 1980s. (11) The two countries
Re: [CTRL] Bogus Claims of Unconstitutionality
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bogus Claims of Unconstitutionality On 22 May 01, at 10:55, Aleisha Saba wrote: So Peace Be Unto You Steve - glad you did not fall into oblivion in the Grand Canyon and did you find your face in your own defacate again? No, that was yours. Steve ROTFLOL!LOL! Thanks...I needed that! LOL! = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] California growing faster than Bangladesh (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- For an immigration time-out: http://www.projectusa.org/ California growing faster than Bangladesh Issue 75: May 23, 2001 Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. Ed Abbey +== TIME OUT PROJECT ==+ Last December, in a Los Angeles Times story, reporter Robin Wright asked Bangladeshi President Sheika Hasina: At independence, Bangladeshi women averaged six to seven children. Today, that rate has been halved by a strong family planning program. Yet, Bangladesh still has 120 million people and by the year 2050 will have at least twice that number, according to the U.S. State Department. How will Bangladesh feed, educate, employ and house those kinds of numbers? We'll send them to America! President Hasina replied, laughing. (Full horrifying quote: http://projectusa.org/Ezine_memo.html) In light of recent Census Bureau projections showing immigration doubling US population within the lifetimes of today's children, the American people might ask President Bush a similar question about one of our fastest-growing states: With the population of California already at 34 million and expected to reach 60 million by 2050, overwhelmingly because of mass immigration, how will we provide energy for all those people? Our president would likely respond with his stock immigration campaign answer, Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande, -- a response only slightly less flippant than President Hasina's. Or he might borrow a page from the Hasina Plan, and offer to send excess Californians to Colorado. More reading: California's population growth rate increases -- now almost 50 percent higher than that of Bangladesh http://www.cap-s.org/pressreleases.html#NEWS RELEASE 5 16 People 'longage,' power shortage Rick Oberlink in the San Diego Union http://www.cap-s.org/sdutoberlink.html Now (California's) No. 1 concern, energy is shaping views on immigration and politics. The Christian Science Monitor, May 21, 2001 http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/05/21/fp10s1-csm.shtml +== TAKE POSITIVE ACTION ==+ Unless Congress acts soon, California's relentless immigration-driven growth will mean more power plants and grids; more subdivisions, strip malls, traffic and pollution; and tighter water supplies -- with no relief in sight for the already over-developed state. Since the world adds another U.S. in population (net) every four years -- 99% percent of which growth occurs in developing countries like Bangladesh -- there is an almost limitless supply of those who will come seeking higher levels of consumption. (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/wp98001.html) (And they will continue to come until one of two things happens: either 1) Congress finally adopts a responsible immigration policy, or 2) quality of life in California and the rest of the nation deteriorates to the point that America is no longer a desirable place to live.) This kind of growth, and the development it will spawn, is a serious environmental issue, to be sure. So what is our country's premier environmental organization doing to address this clear and looming population disaster? The well-funded, 600,000-member Sierra Club is standing on the sidelines impotently advocating for the PC fantasy of global population solutions. So weak and environmentally useless is the Sierra Club on growth, that even the pro-development National Association of Home Builders recently endorsed the Sierra Club's position on development. (http://www.nahb.com/news/sierraresponse.htm) Meanwhile, public debate on the California power crisis has become a red herring, pitting conservation against development. While conservation should be a part of any environmental agenda, it is clearly only a part of the solution -- growth and its causes must be addressed. You can call the Sierra Club and encourage them to think globally, but ACT LOCALLY on the serious issue of population growth and immigration. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 415 977 5500 And a short polite letter to your local newspaper noticing immigration is not being discussed in the debate on California's energy shortage would be an important and helpful action to take. www.newsdirectory.com +== QUOTE OF THE WEEK ==+ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells (1866 - 1946) +==EMAIL OF THE WEEK==+ I think most of the pro-mass immigrationalists have forgotten that immigration is a privilege and not a right. I can't imagine where we would be today without quality organizations like ProjectUSA, FAIR, and NumbersUSA making such a positive impact on this issue by enlightening us on the flagrant abuses and fraud in the system as well as communicating the vital importance of a stable and sustainable population. Paul Francis Cary, North Carolina +==INFORMATION==+ Unsubscribe: http://projectusa.org/Ezine_unsubscribe.html Ezine staff: http://projectusa.org/Ezine_staff.html Tax-exempt gifts: http://projectusa.org/contribute.html A
[CTRL] FW: Secrets of McCain's gun-show bill (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Alan Korwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:11 PM To: Alan Korwin Subject: Gun Show Bill Secrets Found (Please see our NEW ADDRESS at end of report) GUN-SHOW BILL IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY GUN-SHOW BILL IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY GUN-SHOW BILL IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY Re: S. 890, The McCain-Lieberman Bill: Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001. Mass media publicity on the newly proposed gun-show bill is grossly inaccurate. The bill has almost nothing to do with what you've probably heard so far. The so-called gun-show loophole headlines are a minor detail and basically obscure what the bill really does. I've just finished studying the eight pages of legalese. Here is it what it calls for: 1. Unprecedented federal control over gun shows nationwide -- perfectly legal gun shows become strictly outlawed without prior federal approval, licensing and registration of each show; 2. Centralized federal licensing and registration of every gun-show promoter in the nation; 3. Centralized federal registration of every vendor -- including non-gun vendors -- at any gun show in the country. In order for me to sell my BOOKS at a gun show I'll have to pre-register and prove who I am, or face arrest; a private individual looking to sell a single gun would be treated as a vendor under this law and must be registered even if the gun isn't sold; 4. Centralized federal registration of EVERY PERSON who attends a gun show in America, whether or not they make purchases of anything at all -- you won't be allowed in without registering; 5. Centralized collection of any other information on gun-show attendees, as determined solely by the Secretary of the Treasury; 6. Imprisonment for attending a gun show and failing to give up any information required by regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury; 7. Imprisonment of any gun-show promoter who fails to register a single vendor; 8. Imprisonment of gun-show promoters who cannot prove they notified every person attending a gun show of the new rules, and obtained from attendees any information the Secretary of the Treasury mandates by regulation; 9. Centralized collection of any other information the Secretary of the Treasury decides, by regulation, is necessary on vendors, attendees, and the gun show itself; 10. Submission by gun-show promoters of vendor registration logs a) 30 days before any gun show, and b) additional submission of updated vendor registration logs 72 hours before any gun show, and c) additional submission of vendor registration logs within five days of the close of any gun show, under penalty of arrest and imprisonment for non-compliance; 11. Identification of vendors only by use of federally approved photo ID that may include use of a social security number, electronically encoded data, or biometric identifiers such as fingerprint, voice print, retina scan, iris scan, or similar (as defined under 18 USC 1028(d)(2)); 12. Creation of a new license (in addition to a gun-show-promoter license), similar to FFLs, for individuals who want access to the NICS national background check system for facilitating gun-show sales for private citizens; 13. Regulations to be issued by the Secretary of the Treasury on the procedures, data collections, methods and implementation of the entire process to federally control gun shows, in addition to the requirements made by the proposed statute; such regulations will not be known, drafted or even suggested, until after the McCain-Lieberman law is enacted; 14. The proposed bill also puts pressure on state governments to make at least 95% of their law enforcement records for the past 30 years openly available to the federal government; and -- makes unlimited funds available for the states to comply with these federal goals; -- requires annual federal review of states' compliance; -- increases penalties (up to ten years imprisonment) for record-keeping violations; -- grants states permission to make even more restrictive requirements without being out of compliance with these new federal laws (and by implication, puts states that resist these rules in federal trouble); -- provides hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for more law enforcement under numerous programs including project Exile and others; -- hires 200 more Federal BATF Agents; -- provides $10 million to the National Institute for Justice to give out for research on technologies that limit the use of a gun to the owner; and -- provides for annual reports (in great detail) by the Attorney General to Congress on whether the Brady law is working; 15. Enlargement of the federal bureaucracy and appropriation from taxpayers of such funds as are necessary to license, register and monitor an estimated ten million non-criminals who attend the thousands of gun shows held annually in America; and 16. Oh yes, I almost forgot about the so-called
[CTRL] First Amendment Applies to Everyone (fwd)
Free Congress Foundation's Notable News Now Excerpts from FCF Programming and Other FCF Projects May 23, 2001 The Free Congress Commentary Yes, the First Amendment Applies to Everyone By Thomas L. Jipping In Woodbury, Minnesota, the principal of Woodbury High School ordered student Elliot Chambers to remove a shirt with the message Straight Pride on it. As the Supreme Court said in a 1971 case involving a jacket bearing the message F**K the Draft, this case may seem at first blush too inconsequential to find its way into our books, but the issue it presents is of no small constitutional significance. Ditto. Woodbury High School is progressive, tolerant, diverse, and oh so inclusive. In fact, rather than simply being tolerant and inclusive, Woodbury High School makes a point of demonstrating its tolerance, practically shouting it to the world. We all know the most visible, efficient way of proving tolerance these days is to be pro-homosexual and, sure enough, Woodbury High School has designated classrooms called safe zones where homosexuals can gather. School staff volunteer to be in these rooms, which are complete with posters bearing those pink triangles, to hand out propaganda, er, literature from homosexual advocacy groups. Now I know what you are thinking. Using school facilities, school staff, and such in this way would not be at all tolerant or inclusive if it applied only to homosexuals. In other words, being tolerant and inclusive would require that those with another sexual preference - such as, say, heterosexuals - also be allowed to express themselves. Otherwise, the school would simply be pro-homosexual. Along comes Elliot Chambers. Elliot came to school in a shirt that said Straight Pride. The principal banned Elliot from wearing it because a few homosexual students were offended by it. Now if the school were truly tolerant and inclusive, the principal would have told those homosexual students that they were entitled to their views and opinions but since the school was truly tolerant and inclusive, Elliot was entitled to his as well. But apparently the school is not truly tolerant and inclusive. And besides that, there's this thing called the First Amendment which applies to public schools. Back in 1971, in a case involving someone with F**k the Draft on their jacket instead of Straight Pride on their shirt, the Supreme Court opened its opinion with this line: This case may seem at first blush too inconsequential to find its way into our books, but the issue it presents is of no small constitutional significance. The same was true when Elliot and his parents took their case to court. Just two years earlier, in the 1969 case titled Tinker v. Des Moines Independent School District, senior and junior high school students wanted to wear black armbands to school protesting the Vietnam War. The school said they would be disruptive, spark violence, or otherwise interfere with school activities. The Supreme Court said: It can hardly be argued that...students...shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate. I think that would apply to Elliot. When Elliot and his parents went to court, U.S. District Court Judge Donovan Frank ruled in his favor and issued an injunction against the school. It appears this judge - a Clinton appointee, no less - understands that the First Amendment applies to everyone. Yet the fact that school officials apparently believe that tolerance and inclusion are a one-way street, protecting the preferred and punishing the disfavored, should send chills up the spine of every freedom-loving American. When confronted with this obvious double-standard, Elliot's principal said she thought the shirt would incite violence. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Cars don't run red lights, people run red lights. Shirts don't incite violence, people incite violence. The Supreme Court in Tinker said: There is here no evidence whatever of petitioners' interference, actual or nascent, with the schools' work or of collision with the rights of other students to be secure and to be let alone Any word spoken, in class, in the lunchroom, or on the campus, that deviates from the views of another person may start an argument or cause a disturbance. But our Constitution says we must take this risk. This is how our freedom is being turned into a weapon against us. Remember those speech codes in universities that ban certain speech or certain views by labeling them harassment? The same thing is going on here. Whatever happened to I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it? It has become If I disagree with what you say, you may not say it. That's not free speech, that's not fairness, that's not tolerance, that's not inclusion. Watch out folks, if this can happen in schools, it can happen anywhere. Thomas L. Jipping is Vice-President for Legal Policy at the Free
[CTRL] Fw: McCain-Lieberman Gun Show Bill Timebomb
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Kent Van Cleave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:59 PM To: Hoosier Libertarian Subject: [Hoosier Libertarian] Fw: McCain-Lieberman Gun Show Bill Timebomb This looks like SERIOUSLY bad legislation, folks! Kent -Original Message- From: L. Neil Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 000 L. Neil Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:01 PM Subject: McCain-Lieberman Gun Show Bill Timebomb Alan Korwin wrote: (Please see our NEW ADDRESS at end of report) GUN-SHOW BILL IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY GUN-SHOW BILL IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY GUN-SHOW BILL IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY Re: S. 890, The McCain- Lieberman Bill: Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001. Mass media publicity on the newly proposed gun-show bill is grossly inaccurate. The bill has almost nothing to do with what you've probably heard so far. The so-called gun-show loophole headlines are a minor detail and basically obscure what the bill really does. I've just finished studying the eight pages of legalese. Here is it what it calls for: 1. Unprecedented federal control over gun shows nationwide -- perfectly legal gun shows become strictly outlawed without prior federal approval, licensing and registration of each show; 2. Centralized federal licensing and registration of every gun-show promoter in the nation; 3. Centralized federal registration of every vendor -- including non-gun vendors -- at any gun show in the country. In order for me to sell my BOOKS at a gun show I'll have to pre-register and prove who I am, or face arrest; a private individual looking to sell a single gun would be treated as a vendor under this law and must be registered even if the gun isn't sold; 4. Centralized federal registration of EVERY PERSON who attends a gun show in America, whether or not they make purchases of anything at all -- you won't be allowed in without registering; 5. Centralized collection of any other information on gun-show attendees, as determined solely by the Secretary of the Treasury; 6. Imprisonment for attending a gun show and failing to give up any information required by regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury; 7. Imprisonment of any gun-show promoter who fails to register a single vendor; 8. Imprisonment of gun-show promoters who cannot prove they notified every person attending a gun show of the new rules, and obtained from attendees any information the Secretary of the Treasury mandates by regulation; 9. Centralized collection of any other information the Secretary of the Treasury decides, by regulation, is necessary on vendors, attendees, and the gun show itself; 10. Submission by gun-show promoters of vendor registration logs a) 30 days before any gun show, and b) additional submission of updated vendor registration logs 72 hours before any gun show, and c) additional submission of vendor registration logs within five days of the close of any gun show, under penalty of arrest and imprisonment for non-compliance; 11. Identification of vendors only by use of federally approved photo ID that may include use of a social security number, electronically encoded data, or biometric identifiers such as fingerprint, voice print, retina scan, iris scan, or similar (as defined under 18 USC 1028(d)(2)); 12. Creation of a new license (in addition to a gun-show-promoter license), similar to FFLs, for individuals who want access to the NICS national background check system for facilitating gun-show sales for private citizens; 13. Regulations to be issued by the Secretary of the Treasury on the procedures, data collections, methods and implementation of the entire process to federally control gun shows, in addition to the requirements made by the proposed statute; such regulations will not be known, drafted or even suggested, until after the McCain-Lieberman law is enacted; 14. The proposed bill also puts pressure on state governments to make at least 95% of their law enforcement records for the past 30 years openly available to the federal government; and -- makes unlimited funds available for the states to comply with these federal goals; -- requires annual federal review of states' compliance; -- increases penalties (up to ten years imprisonment) for record-keeping violations; -- grants states permission to make even more restrictive requirements without being out of compliance with these new federal laws (and by implication, puts states that resist these rules in federal trouble); -- provides hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for more law enforcement under numerous programs including project Exile and others; -- hires 200 more Federal BATF Agents; -- provides $10 million to the National Institute for Justice to give out for research on technologies that limit the use of a gun to the owner; and -- provides for annual reports (in great detail) by the Attorney General to Congress on whether the Brady law is working; 15.
[CTRL] Fox: Stumbles Galore in Walk-Up to U.N. Racism Conference
-Caveat Lector- Magombe also accused the U.S. of condemning the currently documented slave trade in Sudan and western Africa as a ploy to divert attention from its own dark history. 'The truth is the U.S. has contributed to these regimes. Sudan at one time was a very great ally to the United States in the cold war and the U.S. propped up the regimes in Sudan,' Magombe said. - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,25386,00.html Stumbles Galore in Walk-Up to U.N. Racism Conference Tuesday, May 22, 2001 Email this Article GENEVA - Racism. Slave reparations. Intolerance. These would be hot-button words in any assembly, but they're even more so in the fractured forum that is the United Nations. So months before it even starts, a scheduled U.N. global conference on Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance set for late this summer in South Africa has devolved into a morass of finger-pointing, name-calling and hurt feelings. Africans want the trans-Atlantic slave trade that ended nearly two centuries ago declared a crime against humanity. They also want to be paid reparations, an issue the U.S. and Europe have said would lead them to boycott the meeting. Arab countries want Zionism equated with racism, a position Israel and its allies are not keen on, and India wants to talk about discrimination everywhere, but not about its own caste system. Human-rights groups who had high hopes for the conference are already getting demoralized. Unfortunately, there are too many signs that this conference is being hijacked by states with a narrow particular agenda, said Michael Colson, executive director of UN Watch, a monitoring group based in Geneva. Some of the issues that mention compensation for past crimes or turning it into a focus for the Middle East will be disastrous for this conference. The two-week meeting, set for Aug. 31-Sept. 7 in Durban, South Africa, is supposed to produce a comprehensive action plan to help the U.N. fight racism, but the four regional meetings held in preparation turned into forums for Third World attacks on the developed world. Meeting in Dakar, Senegal in January, the African regional group demanded that the United States and European former colonial powers pay reparations for the 14 million black Africans forced into slavery during the 18th and 19th centuries. They want it declared a crime against humanity. But legal experts say such a declaration would amount to an admission of guilt and lead to a flurry of legal demands. So the Bush administration has said it may not attend the meeting if slavery is the dominant issue on the agenda. The U.N. Commissioner for Human Rights, Mary Robinson of Ireland, has said Europe wants the reparations issue tabled altogether. Dr. Vincent Magombe, director of Africa Inform International, said Western nations that want to discuss racial tolerance and human rights without discussing their slave histories are hypocrites. They have done horrible things to us, and it is quite ironic that these very countries, these very people, are the ones that come around today trying to tell everyone about civilization and human rights, Magombe said. On the issue of the U.S. boycotting the conference, Magombe suggested the conference might be better off without the U.S. Magombe also accused the U.S. of condemning the currently documented slave trade in Sudan and western Africa as a ploy to divert attention from its own dark history. The truth is the U.S. has contributed to these regimes. Sudan at one time was a very great ally to the United States in the cold war and the U.S. propped up the regimes in Sudan, Magombe said. The U.S. is also upset by the anti-Israel sentiment that sprung out of the Asian regional conference, which includes the Far East and Mideast but not Israel. The Asian group, which met in Tehran in February, wants the U.N. to reclassify Zionism as racism, a position the U.N. abandoned in 1991. They also want previously colonial countries to compensate territories they once ruled, and declare that the globalization of the world economy is essentially a racist plot. The Asian group refused to allow Australia and New Zealand to join its conference, nudging them into the European group with the rest of the former colonial powers. And India has attempted to have its caste-based system of social and economic discrimination removed from the conference's discussion topics altogether. Jose Diaz, a spokesman for the U.N. Human Rights Office, insists that the conference will have to include a recognition of the effect of the wounds, the legacy of slavery. And he points to a precedent in the money paid to Holocaust survivors as impetus for the talk of slave reparations. But Diaz also said there were more pressing and urgent current discrimination issues that the global community needed to deal with, and that the American slave trade should not take attention away from today's problems. There
[CTRL] Fox: Little Rock To Seize Man's Property for Clinton Library
-Caveat Lector- http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,25398,00.html Little Rock To Seize Man's Property for Clinton Library Tuesday, May 22, 2001 LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - The city defended its plan Monday to seize land from a private property owner for President Clinton's presidential library. Eugene Pfeifer III has asked the Arkansas Court of Appeals to overturn a lower court ruling allowing the city to take his 2.9 acres, based on a state law that allows the city to take land from property owners for public parks. Pfeifer argues that the 27.7-acre Clinton library site does not fit the definition of a public park, so the city has no right to his land. On Monday, the city of Little Rock filed a motion with the court arguing that the definition does apply. For several years, the city has talked about a chain of parks along the Arkansas River, city attorney Tom Carpenter wrote. The city has offered $400,000 for Pfeifer's property. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: McCain-Lieberman Gun Show Bill Timebomb
-Caveat Lector- What else could you expect from Holy Joe Lieberman and Red Neck Manchurican Candidate McCain? So they say Wouldn't America be wonderful with Holy Joe as President and McCain as Secretary of State? Its the guns, the guns, the gunsthey are scared crapless lest someone - well better forget that one. Quasimoto A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LonTel: 5 Pounds for a slave girl with a nervous smile
5 Pounds for a slave girl with a nervous smilehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=003864436460684rtmo=lvHzwAntatmo=rrrqpg=/et/01/4/29/wlamb29.htmlAt an Abidjan market in West Africa young girls and women are sold fora few thousand francs.Christina Lamb witnesses the 'marche de jeune filles' April 29, 2001FOR a moment, I thought that I had stepped into one of thoseguilt-inspiring etchings in museums all over Africa, of 19th-centuryEuropean slave traders buying up women and children. Only this time,I was the main character.Ranged in front of me, seated on wooden benches under the baking IvoryCoast sun, were row upon row of young African women for sale, eyes litup at the sight of a white woman, all pleading to be the one I wouldchoose. This was Abidjan's marche de jeune filles (market of younggirls) and for 5,000 Central African francs - about £5 - I could takeone home as my very own servant.Aged between 14 and 30, the girls were dressed in their Sunday best,tight-waisted, large-bottomed suits in bold printed cotton, hairtweaked and plaited into elaborate arrangements, their eyes beseechingas they each stood up to be examined. Some giggled nervously. Otherssimply looked desperate.Overseeing their sale were four men, slick characters with goldmedallions flashing under open-necked shirts, tight jeans, black andwhite brogues, fake gold watches, and leather-covered mobiletelephones on their belts. The market is in the shadow of a highway inthe northerfwest suburb of Adjame, next to the affluent residentialdistrict of Cocody, home to the only hotel in Africa with an ice-rink(no longer working), and the area to which the men hope to sell thegirls. Each man has about 15 girls on his books and claims to sell atleast five a week. "You're lucky, madam," said one of the men with asimpering smile. "You're a white woman so they all long to go with youbecause they think you'll treat them better."That a white master or mistress would be preferable seemed a sickeningirony. Over the years reporting from Africa, I have visited the slaveforts on the Ghana coast and seen the desperate scratchings on thewalls of the cells where thousands of men, women and children werejammed before being shipped to the Americas; the steamy jungle port ofCalabar, one of the principal trading posts; and the large tree atZanzibar where the slave market was held which inspired DavidLivingstone to fight against slavery. You get used to feeling shame.But, until going to this market last week, I think I had neverappreciated just how humiliating it is for people to be on sale, andmy stomach turned as the girls all tried to catch my eye or touch myhand. In theory, the women are not slaves. "We're agencies," insistedone of the traders. "You pay us to have them but, once you've takenthem home, it's up to you if you pay them."How much would a decent wage be, I asked? "Obviously, you would wantan experienced one," he replied. "She could do all your washing,cleaning, cooking and look after your baby. If you paid her £20 amonth, she would be extremely happy."He claimed that he would not take a cut of the wages but anti-slaverycampaigners, who would like to see the market closed down, insist thatthis is not true. "The traders make the girls believe they are theirproperty and, even if you buy one, they are only on loan and must paythe traders to cover their costs," explained Desire Kuikui, from theCatholic Children's Fund. "There is little difference fromslave-trading of old." In fact, the Ivorian authorities are sosensitive about the market amid the current international focus onchild-slavery in West Africa, after the docking in Benin of a boatsuspected to have a cargo of child slaves, that when my colleagueJustin Sutcliffe started photographing the girls, we were arrested.Surrounded by shouting and drunken police, we were manhandled into apolice car and held for five hours in the nearby 27th precinct policestation, accused of being spies. Sutcliffe's film was confiscated anddestroyed, apart from one that he had managed to hide, and we wereinterrogated by a series of officers who kept demanding: "What is thetenure of your mission?" Describing what had happened as "a seriousincident", they harangued our poor, terrified interpreter for lettingus go into "sensitive areas".It was an uncomfortable, if not particularly threatening, experienceand, as we sweated it out in the oven-like police station with noteven a warm Coca-Cola to quench our parched lips, it was hard to getthe picture of all those women on the benches out of my head. Beforeour arrest, one of the traders had insisted that "the girls are freeto leave here any time".That may be true but, according to Apolle, a girl with whom I had asnatched conversation, they have nowhere to go. Claiming to be 17,but looking more like 14, she said she had travelled several days toget to Abidjan from the east of the country. "I was told by a man
Re: [CTRL] Fw: McCain-Lieberman Gun Show Bill Timebomb
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/23/01 6:04:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Its the guns, the guns, the gunsthey are scared crapless lest someone - well better forget that one. possible, possible. Bill H A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Murphy: Believing is Seeing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.anti-state.com/murphy/murphy1.html Believing is Seeing by Bob Murphy You think you have an open mind. No you don't. Nobody does. We necessarily interpret our sensory input to be consistent with our model of how everything changes with time. The one thing everyone does-and so instinctively and automatically that it goes largely unremarked-is try to become a better predictor of the future. And I don't mean, in a hokey, Magic Eight Ball sort of way. (Will Bob ever dupe a girl into marrying him? My sources say no.) What I mean is, people don't like being surprised by things, especially the more responsibility they shoulder over time. (Young punks like me roll our eyes at our parents for being conservative, but you're damn right you have to be cautious as hell if other people depend on you going to work every day.) Physics is a collection of models of reality which enumerate precise laws that describe and hopefully predict observable, natural phenomena. The actual physicists might be in it purely for aesthetic reasons, but there is a definite practical payoff: It's how we learn to better manipulate the rest of nature. But physics is just the most blatant field of the more general search for understanding. The adolescent trying to figure out how to make someone like him or her is really, when you come down to it, just trying to figure out how to manipulate people. It would be easy to castigate politicians as people plotting to manipulate you to serve their ends. But so was your favorite teacher ever. So was Mother Theresa. So was Jesus of Nazareth. (The difference with these latter people is that they didn't resort to intimidation or deception. And that's precisely why they were so influential. But the politician is either too weak to attempt such nobleness, or too stupid to realize that that sort of legacy is a far greater shrine to one's accomplishments than any monument or bust in the side of a hill.) Now everybody is self-centered. You have to take care of yourself, in the literal sense. People think that some benevolent virgin tenderly attending to some old dude in a rest home who shits his pants everyday and has to have his pork chops cut up into little tiny pieces and mixed in with his applesauce (you know what I'm talking about), people think that this scene blows up the bitter cynicism of kooks like me and Ayn Rand. No it doesn't. Which of the two people is not self-centered? The old guy sure is. He can't do much, but whatever he does do, is to take care of himself. And the nurse is self-centered, too. She thinks, What can I do to comfort this man? And of course, she never fails to get enough food and rest to ensure her survival. Now if you're smart like me, you'll start devoting more and more time to convincing people to see things your way. You have to stop shuddering at the flagrant egoism of that bold proclamation. You can be very polite about the matter, and in fact you have to be if you want to get anywhere through mere persuasion. But make no mistake: You are trying to persuade others to think like you. Maybe not your views about politics or religion, but whenever you throw a party, or approach a pretzel vendor with a dollar bill in your hand, you are employing a model of social interactions, and you are about to make a pitch to get people to do their part to make the future unfold the way you want it to. And, as in the examples of throwing a party or obtaining a pretzel from its owner, the easiest way to convince the others involved to go along is to demonstrate to their satisfaction that they too would enjoy this possible course of events. I used to get really angry arguing with people who were really smart about some stuff, but so damned stupid about other stuff. Like how can anybody like Al Gore?? But then I realized that, back in the day, I had never heard about libertarianism. I used to dream about being a fighter pilot on a Navy carrier, when my uncle would give me glossy photographs of F-14s and those sweet surveillance jets with the big fat radar dishes on top. And I certainly had no desire for world conquest or foreign plunder. I just wanted to squeeze off a few Sidewinder missiles and blow up some Russians. (Now, can you imagine how eager the military personnel are to use all their cool shit and to implement all of their battle plans? Show of hands: How many of you, during every fire drill, thought, This is just a drill. It would be so exciting if there were a real fire. Then I could see if I could scale down the building from the fifth floor, because I've thought about how I'd do it.? No?) Anyway, my point is that if half your relatives are cool about most normal stuff but not about politics, it's not that they're stupid, it's that they're ignorant. They have honestly never thought about the nature of government the way you have. You know how fortune tellers stay in business? It's because the people
Re: [CTRL] Col. Tom Bearden on Clearnance Sale at Redstone Arsen al
-Caveat Lector- Col. Tom Bearden. As most of you know, he is the definitive theorist on magnetic/scalar energy and has a world reputation in many such areas. So, Sunday afternoon I had occasion to speak with him and discuss the matter at length. Boy, Amelia, what I wouldn't give to sit down with the brilliant Col. Bearden as you did. His work is our best hope of breaking the oil monopoly finally. He pointed out the 5,000 families there replete with children of their own who are in charge of this storage and the foolishness of assuming they would allow such conditions to exist. What would be their motive for exposing their families to such contamination? This is precisely my problem with too many conspiracy researchers. According to them, people are so evil they completely disregard the well-being of their own flesh and blood, their children and grandchildren. I've never met anyone like that and I question that such a human being exists. I find Col. Tom Bearden to be much more believable in this regard than AlMartinRaw. Of course he is more believable because he acknowledges there are two sides to every story. Anyone who gives only one side (the negative) is probably being paid by an opposite side. I do not understand why, with the energy shortage facing this country, more is not being done in this area. But then that is yet another conspiracy. It seems until every penny of profit is extracted from the American people nothing will be done. As Kristofferson wrote, freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Nature of Political Conspiracy
The Nature of Political Conspiracy Chuck Morse - 05.23.01 Lord Acton said power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely which succinctly describes the nature of political conspiracy. The potential conspirator, intoxicated by the rarefied atmosphere of power and privilege, corrupts his soul for political advancement. Along the way, he becomes convinced that he possesses superior wisdom and assumes a sense of entitlement, even obligation, to exercise this wisdom by working toward controlling the lives of others. He believes he possesses a mandate to change human nature and views the force of government as the means to effect that change. He does not believe that his fellow citizen is capable of self rule. Conspiracy occurs when a collusion takes place between these like-minded birds of a feather. The conspirators, illicitly and secretively, use power in a mission which often takes on religious fervor. That mission is the accumulation of more power for it's own sake. The work of the conspirator is to market this transfer of power as a benevolent program meant to benefit the populace. To further this transformation of power, they present themselves as saviors during a crisis that they themselves may have played a hand in creating. Millions of innocents have died as a result of the wars, famine, holocausts, and poverty that have resulted from such marketing and accumulation. Oftentimes, a conspirator simply gets caught up in the atmosphere of the elite culture and, either deliberately or by evasion, remains unaware of the significance of his own actions. The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. This is more likely to occur in a morally ambivalent person, a faceless bureaucrat, or an apparatchik, who dutifully carries out a pre determined agenda and, in exchange for his loyalty and labor, receives a modicum of advancement and prestige in return. Motivated by a messiah complex, the conspirator is attracted to like-minded souls. He generally doesn't view his activity as a sinister plot, but as social action conducted in the interest of the unenlightened masses. He seeks to plan the most intimate details of the lives of his fellow citizens in the name of science. He views government as a tool of coercion to achieve these ends. His ultimate dream, the cornerstone of his secular faith, is a one world government where people like him will use their total world power to change mankind. His faith is the same as that of every aspiring world conqueror, from Alexander the Great to Genghis Khan to Adolf Hitler. A political conspiracy should be viewed in the same context as a criminal conspiracy. The criminal plots with one or more co-conspirators to abscond with the wealth of the intended victim. Plans are drawn up to either commit an outright robbery by use of force, or to commit a more subtle fraudulent scheme through a series of lies. Laws, set up to protect the life and property of the intended victim, are broken. The political conspiracy is more subtle and complex and is often borne out of a ruling culture of scientific control and noblesse oblige. Conspiracy theories involving collective classes of people, such as race, ethnicity, or religion, are false, dangerous to freedom, and should be rejected. It is impossible for an entire population of people to engage in a conspiracy. An ethnic group can only be the victim of a conspiracy, hatched by an elite seeking to manipulate them to either turn over the reigns of power or to go to war. Ethnic groups are often used as scapegoats by conspirators who seek to either divert attention from themselves, shift the blame for their own actions, or mobilize the significant collective power of hate and prejudice to be used for their advantage. The Jewish conspiracy theories of the Nazi elite are a classic example of this principle in action. Political conspiracy is any plan to deprive the citizenry of their natural sovereign rights. The signature of conspiracy is when these plans are hatched in secret. Secrecy occurs when the conspirators realize that the citizenry would reject the plan if they were cognizant of it. This is the hallmark of arrogance. Our founding fathers understood that a corrupted cabal of men would work it's way into government and would conspire to take over the levers of power. This is why they devised a Constitution which divides power into three branches of government and recognizes the citizen as endowed by the creator with the right to life, liberty, and property. This is why the constitution charges the citizen with the right to free speech, free press, the right to assemble, and the right to keep and bear arms. Our founders understood the darker side of human nature. They knew that every generation would have to grapple with a conspiracy of men who seek to transfer these powers into their own hands. Our obligation to the maintenance of
[CTRL] Declassification of documents on Task Force 157
National Security Archive Update, May 23, 2001 *The Pentagon's Spies: Documents Detail Histories of Once Secret Spy Units* http://www.nsarchive.org/NSAEBB/NSAEBB46 Today, the National Security Archive released a collection of declassified documents concerning the creation, evolution and (in some cases) the abolition of human intelligence (HUMINT) programs run by the Department of Defense and the military services. The documents - edited by Jeffrey T. Richelson - also detail the product of their activities, and the controversies that have occurred over the last several decades. Throughout the Cold War and beyond, the United States has conducted a variety of military HUMINT operations carried out by the military services and the Department of Defense. Each of the three major military services established and disestablished organizations to recruit spies and debrief individuals of interest in order to gather information about foreign weapons systems, doctrine, and other matters of interest to military officials. The documents released today include: * Documents on the history of the Navy's clandestine intelligence unit, the Naval Field Operations Support Group (NFOSG), also known as Task Force 157. * Documents on the establishment and activities of the Army Intelligence Support Activity (ISA), a covert group established in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis to provide HUMINT support for a possible second rescue attempt, later criticized as uncoordinated and uncontrolled. * HUMINT reports from the Army's more traditional Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) on issues such as guerrilla use of stinger missiles against Soviet forces in Afghanistan, and the 1995 detention of two U.S. military attaches charged with spying on Chinese military facilities in Guangzhou. * Documents on the creation of the Defense HUMINT Service (DHS) from 1993-95, a plan that consolidated the human intelligence programs of the military services into one organization. The documents are available at the following URL: http://www.nsarchive.org/NSAEBB/NSAEBB46 ___ THE NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE is an independent non-governmental research institute and library located at The George Washington University in Washington, D.C. The Archive collects and publishes declassified documents acquired through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). A tax-exempt public charity, the Archive receives no U.S. government funding; its budget is supported by publication royalties and donations from foundations and individuals. ___ PRIVACY NOTICE The National Security Archive does not and will never share the names or e-mail addresses of its subscribers with any other organization. Once a year, we will write you and ask for your financial support. We may also ask you for your ideas for Freedom of Information requests, documentation projects, or other issues that the Archive should take on. We would welcome your input, and any information you care to share with us about your special interests. But we do not sell or rent any information about subscribers to any other party. ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE LIST You may leave the list at any time by sending a SIGNOFF NSARCHIVE command to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. You can also unsubscribe from the list anytime by using the following link: http://hermes.circ.gwu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=nsarchiveA=1
[CTRL] Myth of the Martyred Mapmaker (fwd)
Myth of the Martyred Mapmaker Fired Contractor Turned Into Hero http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53125-2001May20.html By Michael Grunwald Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, May 21, 2001; Page A01 Two months ago, Ian Thomas was an anonymous government cartographer, posting wildlife maps on the U.S. Geological Survey's Web site. Today, he is a martyr of the environmental movement, celebrated as a victim of the Bush administration's supposed hostility to nature. Thomas was fired March 12 for posting a map of caribou migrations in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the pristine swath of tundra where the new administration hopes to promote oil exploration. Within days, green groups were trashing Interior Secretary Gale A. Norton for playing politics, and Thomas's tale of suppressed science was making international news. Last week, he even made the funny pages, as Garry Trudeau recounted his plight in six Doonesbury strips. It turned out that the Alaska caribou calve exactly where Secretary Norton wants to drill! Trudeau's fictional Washington Post reporter declared. So the offending map was yanked off the Net, and the unwitting mapmaker was sacked. It's quite a story. But it's not quite a true story. It certainly isn't the whole story. For starters: Thomas was a contract worker, not a federal employee, and he had been in trouble with his USGS bosses before, once for posting sensitive Department of Defense data on their Web site. The decision to cancel his contract was made not by Norton or any other Bush appointee, but by the top biologist at his research center, a self-described liberal Democrat who opposes drilling in the Arctic refuge. Another career bureaucrat -- the chief USGS biologist, who is also a Democrat and a conservationist -- made the call to pull the caribou map off the Web. The real reason Thomas lost his job, according to internal USGS e-mails from March and interviews last week, is that he posted an inaccurate map related to a hypersensitive issue that was far outside his Maryland office's turf and even farther outside the scope of his contract. His bosses had already decided not to renew his $39.71-an-hour deal before the incident, and his immediate superior -- yet another self-described liberal Democrat -- had recently refused to continue as his manager, calling him a bit out of control. USGS is part of Interior, but there is no evidence that Norton or her aides played any role in his termination. In fact, USGS officials say the oil industry would have loved the Thomas map, which actually understated the caribou calving grounds by relying on obsolete data. There were absolutely no political overtones to this whatsoever, said Jay Hestbeck, the biologist who terminated Thomas's contract. That's just something people want to believe. It's pure fantasy, but it's a perfect story for people who want to see the world that way. Even Thomas now says that his dismissal was less about political interference than bureaucratic panic, and that it would have gone unnoticed if environmentalists hadn't been so eager for ammunition to use against the Arctic drilling plan. But with mobilized green groups vociferously linking the administration to Big Oil, King Coal and arsenic in the water supply, the symbolism of this case quickly overtook the facts. Thomas still believes that Bush and Norton have created a climate of fear at federal agencies that handle energy issues, but he says he is no longer pushing Doonesbury-style conspiracy theories about his own plight. It's gone so far beyond anything I ever dreamed of happening, said Thomas, who accepted a job offer from the World Wildlife Fund the day after he was fired. It's crazy! Still, his saga keeps spreading: from the Los Angeles Times to French television to a three-page spread in the Guardian of London to Jim Romenesko's media gossip Web site to the Reuters wire. Thomas even rated a brief mention in the Chinese version of Elle magazine -- along with an '80s pop band that understands the vagaries of sudden celebrity. I have no idea what it says except it goes: Ian Thomas, blah, blah, blah, Duran Duran, Thomas explained in an e-mail. Very cool! 'A Bit Out of Control' Ian Thomas is 33. He lives in a group house in Mount Pleasant with five vegans and two dogs and a votenader.org sticker on the door. He shows up for an interview wearing an unraveling red sweater and faded green denim jeans. It would appear from the scruffy patches around his face that he has not yet learned how to shave. He is an international chess master. He reads science fiction. He is a passionate enviro. He seems like a very nice man, but not exactly an Organization Man. Thomas, a London native, came to the United States a decade ago after completing a civil engineering degree, and worked on hydrologic models for the National Audubon Society. He later took a job at the Smithsonian's environmental research
Re: [CTRL] SFLR on Michael Aquino - Part II
-Caveat Lector- http://www.liberationradio.net/SFLR_News_5-21-01.html The excerpts from the book written by Phillips and O'Brien help to explain to any with open minds how some of the victims of mind-control programming could be convinced of shape-shifters. Whether David Icke (whom some find to be so objectionable) has intentionally misconstrued these accounts or is engaged in disinformation attempts is unknown. He does post an assortment of all kinds of reports involving mind-control, and the reader must follow the premise of this list-- Caveat Lector -Original Message- From: radman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: [CTRL] SFLR on Michael Aquino - Part II -Caveat Lector- SFLR News The newsletter of San Francisco Liberation Radio Monday, May 21, 2001 San Francisco Liberation Radio, 93.7 FM Broadcasting 4 p.m. - 11 p.m. nightly, 12 midnight on Saturdays, In Western San Francisco In this Issue: 1. The Keys to Hell and Death - Part II 2. O'Brien, Phillips, to Speak Saturday ** 1. The Keys to Hell and Death - Part II U.S. Army reserve Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, a Defense Department expert on psychological warfare, was named as a suspect in a child molestation case in San Francisco in 1987. However, formal charges against Aquino were never filed in the case, known as the Presidio child molestation case, in which more than 50 children were reported to have been molested who attended a day care center on a U.S. Army base. Aquino is founder of the Temple of Set, a satanic church based in San Francisco, and he figures prominently in the book, TRANCE-Formation of America, by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien. Yesterday we brought you part one of this report. Today we continue with part two. FASCISM AND THE OCCULT The U.S. government's fascination for covert use of the occult has its historical precedent in Nazi Germany. Both Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, Nazi SS chief, were heavily immersed in the occult, Hitler having come into contact with Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels and his Order of the New Templars as early as 1909. Hitler became an avid reader of Lanz's magazine, Ostara, a publication which combined the erotic with the occult, while also producing racist rantings which were remarkably similar to Hitler's later utterances, according to Dusty Sklar in her book, Gods and Beasts: The Nazis and the Occult. (Thomas Y. Crowell Company, New York, 1977). Another occultist who was influential in Nazi circles was the professor, Karl Hauschofer, who is said to have virtually dictated chapter 16 of Hitler's autobiography, Mein Kampf. For Hauschofer, a love affair with the Orient began in 1908 when he was sent to Tokyo as an advisor to the Japanese Army. He studied Sanskrit and translated several Hindu and Buddist texts, eventually ending up in the esoteric stream of Satanism, through which he sought to raise Germany to the pinnacle of world power. (Sklar, p. 63). (Haushofer wound up being paid tribute by San Francisco Satanist Anton LeVey, in whose book, The Satanic Bible, published in 1969, can be found a dedication: To Karl Haushofer, a teacher without a classroom.). As for Lanz, he ended up joining the Germanen Orden (in 1912), which in turn eventually merged with the Thule Society, whose membership, by 1918, reached 1,500 in Bavaria alone. This powerful occult circle included adepts, judges, lawyers, professors, leading industrialists, surgeons, scientists, and even former members of the royal entourage of the Wittelsbach kings. The Bavarian minister of justice, Franz Gurtner; the police president of Munich, Ernst Pohner; and the assistant police chief, Wilhelm Frick, were active. (Sklar, p. 42). Couching their rhetoric in rabid anti-Semitism, Thule members prophesied the coming of a German messiah who would do away with hated democracy, the handmaiden of the weak, says Sklar. There was also a great deal of rhetoric about the divine self and the powers which would accrue to those who followed the true path. The latter especially is not dissimilar from the sort of mystic psychobabble which can be found on Temple of Set web sites today. Temple of Set seeks above all to honor and enshrine consciousness says the church's official Web site. The Left-Hand Path is a process for creating an individual, powerful essence that exists above and beyond animal life. Other celebrated personages drawn to the German occult scene included the American industrialist Andrew Melon. According to Sklar, Melon's interest in the occult resulted in a huge collection of books on the subject, stretching back to antiquity, which he donated to Yale. (Sklar, p. 138). Yale, it should be noted, is the home of the notorious Skull and Bones Society, out of which sprang George H.W. Bush and other American political figures. (SFLR DJ Scott Thompson has provided research on ties to
[CTRL] (Fwd) Ashcroft Reverses Reno
-Caveat Lector- Well, I've had some reservations about Ashcroft, but if he sticks to his guns (no pun intended) on this, I'll consider that he has redeemed himself. --- Forwarded message follows --- Attorney General John Ashcroft says the Justice Department is moving to reaffirm a long-held opinion that all law-abiding citizens have the individual right to keep and bear firearms. It is a move that is likely to enrage liberals who enjoyed eight years of anti-gun support from the Clinton Administration. In a letter to the National Rifle Association, Ashcroft says that during his confirmation hearings, he was reminded that some hold a different view on the right to bear arms -- a view, he says, that would "read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution." Ashcroft says he respectfully disagrees with that view, because when he was sworn in as Attorney General, he took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. And Ashcroft says that applies to all parts of the Constitution. The Washington Times, which has obtained a copy of the letter, says Ashcroft argues the text and the original intent of the Second Amendment clearly protects the rights of individuals to keep and bear arms. Mark Levin, former chief of staff to Attorney General Ed Meese, is praising the Ashcroft statement. He tells The Times "the right to bear arms is no less a right than the right to free speech." Levin says the problem with liberals is that "they wish to pick and choose between individual liberties and scuttle those with which they disagree." Anti-Gun Bias Meanwhile, a leading opinion pollster attributes the media's anti-gun bias to their lack of real knowledge on the issue. Kellyanne Conway is president of the Polling Company. She told a seminar on media coverage at the National Rifle Association Convention, that the bias stems from the fact that most reporters and anchors do not know much about guns. Conway said, "The reason the media are so set against gun issues is because they literally don't know anyone who owns a gun." Conway told the group that many national correspondents and anchors are out of touch with ordinary people because they "live in gated communities and they have all the disposable income and plastic surgeons and diamond jewelry," thus giving them the freedom to talk about things the rest of America really does not focus on. Conway urged NRA members not to believe what the media says about them or the organization and its activities. She said, "The fact is, the NRA is increasing membership to 4.3 million members, while at the same time, there's a collateral drop off in readership of these major national newspapers, and more importantly, the viewership of these nightly network news programs." NRA - Campaign Finance Reform At the annual Convention held this past week in Kansas City, the NRA announced it intends to fight the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Bill. Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre told an enthusiastic crowd that the campaign finance bill violates the Constitution and criminalizes free speech in America. "As long as there is a National Rifle Association," LaPierre said, "the First Amendment will stand in defense of the Second, and the Second will stand in defense of the First." LaPierre also pledged if the bill passed, the NRA "would drop anchor in international waters just off the coast and broadcast the truth from its own television towers." In a surprise move, Congressman Bob Barr of Georgia, a staunch NRA supporter, took the podium and announced he accepted the NRA's challenge on McCain-Feingold. He called the bill "the most serious and double- barreled challenge to our Bill of Rights that any of us have witnessed in our lifetime." --- End of forwarded message --- -- Best wishes It is the besetting vice of democracies to substitute public opinion for law. This is the usual form in which the masses of men exhibit their tyranny. -James Fenimore Cooper, _The American Democrat_ (1838) www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
[CTRL] FC: Don't fall for the HIV needles email hoax -- a cautionary tale (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- * From: Max Cacas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Declan McCullagh' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cautionary tale on using e-mail Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:57:39 -0400 Declan, Here's an item that might be interesting to your Politech subscribers. Today's (5/17/01) Washington Post has what can best be described as a cautionary tale on indiscriminately using e-mail to pass around seemingly innocuous items to friends and colleagues. It concerns the aide to a top official in Fairfax County, Va. who spread what she thought was a credible story about HIV-infected needles attached to the bottom of gas station pumps - a story that turned out to be a hoax. By sending the message to 100 friends and colleagues, the aide set the story loose all over the world, and she -- and her boss -- are continuing to pay the price to this day. The best quote from the story comes from the aide: I can tell you, after this experience, if the sky is falling, no one will hear it from me. The story headlined Apocryphal E-Mail Bedevils Va. Sender can be found on washingtonpost.com at: http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36923-2001May16.html Cheers, - Max Max Cacas - Senior Online Producer[radio/webcasting] Technology Programs The Freedom Forum / Arlington, Va. USA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freedomforum.org Inanimate objects are out to screw you. - Fred W. Friendly - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NR: Jeffords Bombshell: Party Switch Imminent
-Caveat Lector- National Review Online Jeffords Bombshell Party switch imminent, according to Evans and Novak Political Report. By NR Staff May 22, 2001 6:00 p.m. Vermont Republican James Jeffords will switch parties, according to an exclusive report in the Evans-Novak Political Report. The switch would give control of the Senate to the Democrats, and is a devastating development for the Bush White House. This is the Evans-Novak e-mail that is screaming around Washington at the moment: GOP Sen. James Jeffords (Vt.) was overheard on Tuesday telling a Democratic colleague that he will switch parties. According to sources, Jeffords said that once the tax cut bill passes he will travel to the White House and tell President Bush he will join the Democratic party. Jeffords' aides said Bush's decision not to invite him to a ceremony honoring a Vermont teacher is prompting him to switch parties. If Jeffords follows through with his intention, the political landscape changes dramatically. Democrats would become the majority party in the Senate, altering the make-up of committees and derailing Bush's judicial nominations and his goal of restraining federal spending. Also, Republican energy plans would be very difficult to pass through the Senate. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NR: Jeffords Bombshell: Party Switch Imminent
-Caveat Lector- Now a lot of Republicans in a primary I presume put this man on the ticket to represent them...in the General Election he ran as a Repubican and his party put his name on the Republican Ballot. So now, if this guy wants to vote Republican or vote Democrat that is his choice - for many public officials do not agree on all issues. What this guy is doing verges on blackmail and why? He could vote as he pleases on any issue; but to change his party - he no longer holds the qualifications for the office he holds as a member of the Republican party and they should recall him immediately, impoeach, or whatever they do to in such matters. What is the big deal - he is getting publicty, but who the hell ever heard of him? So he says I am no longer a Republican? Fine, take away his office for he was not elected on the Demorat Ticket... Something wrong here...to change your vote is one thing, but to change your party is another. Much to do over nothing A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: I.C. Considers Return of Smoking-Gun Dress, Semen Stains and All
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Tuesday May 22, 2001; 10:15 a.m. EDT Monica's Smoking Gun Dress Request Could Spell More Trouble for Bill Monica Lewinsky wants the office of independent counsel to return the semen stained blue dress she turned over as impeachment evidence in 1998 -- a move that could spell more scandal trouble for Bill Clinton. It's her lawyer's position that she's entitled to have back all her possessions, Lewinsky spokeswoman Judi Nadler told Bloomberg News service late Monday. Lewinsky isn't interested in selling the frock, insisted Nadler, despite estimates that the historic garment could fetch more than the $1.26 million paid for the skin tight gown Marilyn Monroe donned to serenade JFK on his birthday. Clinton's one-time girlfriend once told Barbara Walters that if she ever got the garment back, she'd burn it. But if Monica changes her mind and decides to cash in, she could solve one of the great Sexgate mysteries of all time -- whether Clinton is the father of Little Rock teenager Danny Williams. Williams' mom, Bobbi Ann, had long claimed Clinton was Danny's dad, and had reportedly passed two lie detector tests in 1992 to back her story up. In November 1998, Danny's aunt, Lucille Bolton, told NewsMax.com that the family wanted a DNA paternity test. Weeks later, Star Magazine obtained a sample of Danny's DNA and attempted to compare it with Clinton's. But Star couldn't get an actual sample of the president's genetic material -- and instead relied on the now-discredited FBI Lab, which offered a scant profile of Clinton's DNA markers in documents made public during impeachment. Danny's sample did not match the FBI's Clinton profile, Star told Time Magazine, without ever reporting on the episode itself. But in fact, no actual independent paternity test was ever performed. Making matters even murkier, an FBI spokesman refused to tell NewsMax.com whether the DNA profile it released for Clinton had been camouflaged for national security or privacy reasons. (See: Clinton 'Paternity Test' Called into Question) If Monica gets her dress back, she could clear up the Danny Williams mystery once and for all -- and no doubt enhance her own financial security along the way. Independent counsel Robert Ray is reportedly considering returning the smoking gun frock to Lewinsky, semen stains and all. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IMPORTANT NEWS of amerika - what we get in britland
This is all the american news we get these days ... Scottish daily Record wednesday may 23 2001 page22 Monica Lewinsky says she wants back her infamous stained dress that almost cost Bill Clinton the US Presidency. Experts say the navy Gap dress could be worth more than £350,000 to a collector - though Lewinskys spokeswoman said the former Whitehouse intern, now 27, had no plans to sell it. New York collector Robert Schagrin said 'Iwould love to get my hands on that dress. I could see it going for mid six figures, maybe even seven.' The dress was not returned after the investigation into Clintons affair with Lewinsky. A spokesman for the investigators said the fate of the dress would be addressed 'in due time' ___ well I'm glad that theres nothing serious happening in the states just now :) andrew
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- Yes, it does appear that the writer is out of touch with reality. And the proof of this is? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gary Condit - Nicknamed Blow Dry
-Caveat Lector- Because of his dangerous age, Condit it is alleged is a real swinger - his hair is a standing joke, so they call him blow dry.he runs in the night life circuit, but that does not make him bad. He claimed he and the Levy family were friends; yet the Levy's state this is noto necessarily the case - he is just their congressman. Now he put up $10,000 reward for the locating of this young Intern - what if it did come out of his campaign funds? Strange - for that is a lot of money Another young girl involved with a bit shot (as they like to think they are) political official - makes one wonder if this is not a repeat of the past.and Diana Feinstein on TV reliving her past - remember Leo Ryan murdered and set up at Jonestown - Feinstein made news then and they are all making news now - news that Condit, tries to avoid for he is a married man, in his 50's and this man visited this young girl's apartment several times? Interesting item = but the lid has been put on. Why? Rivera is crying, King is crying - the parents held one interview and requested please, find their daughter first for they hope for the best. Condit sounds like another bum - like Clinton - what are they running there? They made a prostitute out of little Monica or was she one before she hit the high times? Interesting case - and her photographs in a glamourous pose and dyed black hair - with the little rose tattoo on her ankle? Packed, ready to return to her home - bright future - or is somebody already writing or did they write the book? So wonderful of the Congressman to put up the $10,000 - but wait a minute - it was from his campaign funds? Has he taken lie detector yet and then of course there is this Blake murder case - look how they were condemned before the trial - when this congressman looks like a real bum escapes attention of news media? Saba Lots of Attention but Little News As Search for By David A. Fahrenthold and Arthur Santana Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, May 18, 2001; Page A14 Chandra A. Levy's parents are set to return to California today as the search for their daughter, who has been missing for more than two weeks, continues to raise strong media interest but few solid leads for police. The investigation has included the canvassing by police of an Adams Morgan apartment building where U.S. Rep. Gary A. Condit (D-Calif.) lives while in Washington, Condit's neighbors said yesterday. Levy had visited Condit's apartment several times, a police official said yesterday. Police have no suspects in the case and said there was no evidence that she was a victim of foul play. Levy, 24, was last seen April 30 -- a week after her job as a federal intern ended and just before she was to return to California for her graduate school commencement. On May 6, after trying repeatedly to reach their daughter on the telephone, Levy's parents alerted D.C. police. Police are saying little about the investigation, and what details have emerged only deepen the mystery. Assistant Police Chief Ronald Monroe said yesterday that Levy had visited Condit's apartment more than a couple times, though the time frame was not clear. Condit's neighbors said police knocked on their doors Tuesday night, carrying a picture of Levy, asking whether they had ever seen her there. Those interviewed yesterday by The Washington Post -- about 10 people -- said they had never seen Levy in the building. Condit, 53, who represents Modesto, Levy's home town, offered $10,000 in surplus campaign funds in reward money after Levy's parents notified him of the disappearance. He also asked the FBI to become involved in the case. Reports hinting that Condit and Levy had some kind of relationship have drawn media attention from across the country. Condit's office has repeatedly said that Levy and the congressman, who is married and has two adult children, were not romantically involved. Condit's offices in Washington and Modesto said yesterday that the congressman would have no comment beyond a printed statement. This is about Chandra, it said. All of us should focus our efforts on getting her home. Levy's parents, Robert and Susan Levy, flew to Washington on Tuesday night to learn more from police about her disappearance. They met yesterday with California's senators, Dianne Feinstein (D) and Barbara Boxer (D). Susan Levy said she and her husband were grateful for Condit's donation to the reward fund but declined an invitation to meet with him because they were too busy. Robert Levy said he first contacted Condit soon after his daughter disappeared only because Condit is their congressman. Robert Levy said neither he nor his wife has met Condit. Susan Levy said she knew of no romantic relationship between her daughter and Condit, and she called the media speculation distressing. It's not very comforting to hear these stories, she said. Meanwhile, an article published yesterday in the Modesto Bee undercut earlier
[CTRL] FINAL REPORT On The Bombing of The Alfred P. Murrah Building April 19, 1995
-Caveat Lector- FINAL REPORT On The Bombing of The Alfred P. Murrah Building April 19, 1995 Update: Due to recent events, the publication of the 500 Page Final Report has been delayed in shipping until around the first part of June, 2001. To place Pre-Order, Call 1-800-334-5597 *** FINAL REPORT Web site: Orders can also be placed here! HOME: http://www.bombing.tv/ ORDER PAGE: http://www.bombing.tv/OrderPage.html Any questions, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright © 2000-2001, Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee. All Rights Reserved - Website by Alliance Team = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New DEA Chief Complicit in Mena Drug Scandal, New Book Claims
-Caveat Lector- Press Release May 21, 2001 Available for interviews Call 800.556.2012 New DEA Chief Complicit in Mena Drug Scandal, New Book Claims Why did Asa Hutchinson, George W. Bushs new appointee to head the DEA, agree to become the marketing poster boy for a company that had just been taken public by a lawyer and close associate of major drug smuggler Barry Seal? A new book Barry the boys The CIA, the Mob, and Americas Secret History, (in bookstores this fall but available now on the Internet at www.barryandtheboys.com) claims a principal in Seals cocaine smuggling organization, that operated with impunity through Mena, Arkansas while Hutchinson was US Attorney there, was merely paying back a favor. Every successful drug smuggling organization needs four things, Miami private investigator Gary McDaniel, an expert in the netherworld where the criminal drug trade and the US Justice system meet, states in the new book... Production, distribution, transportation, and protection. Did the Republican Congressman who presented the case to the Senate for the impeachment of Bill Clinton, Asa Hutchinson, provide the protection, including taking care of an arrest for Seal while he was US Attorney for Western Arkansas? According to then-Arkansas State Police Commander, Finis Duvall, whose area included Mena, on at least one occasion then-US Attorney Asa Hutchinson took care of a Mena legal entanglement for Barry Seal that has never been surfaced in the press. The book quotes Duvall as stating that the Arkansas State police didn't even try to develop a case against the Mena drug smuggling, because it was well known that it was being 'protected.' We always knew we couldn't prosecute Barry Seal, no matter what we got on him, because of the politics involved in the Western Judicial District, said the former Arkansas State Police Commander, referring to Hutchinson. The big secret that was never revealed in either the Iran Contra or the Whitewater Scandals, is the subject of Barry the boys The CIA, the Mob, and Americas Secret History, in bookstores this fall but available on the Internet now at www.barryandtheboys.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NR: Jeffords Bombshell: Party Switch Imminent
-Caveat Lector- Sen. Jeffords To Be Independent By David Espo AP Special Correspondent Wednesday, May 23, 2001; 10:10 a.m. EDT WASHINGTON Republican Sen. James Jeffords of Vermont has told Democrats he intends to abandon his party and become an independent, officials said Wednesday, a switch that would end GOP control of the Senate and crimp President Bush's ability to pass his agenda. He's going to leave, that's all I've been told, said one Democratic senator, speaking on condition of anonymity. A second Democratic senator, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said party leaders had told him Jeffords would align himself with Democrats for organizational purposes, thereby giving them control. Jeffords, a moderate in a party of conservatives, told reporters he would disclose his decision at mid-afternoon. Several sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Jeffords might defer the effective date of his switch until early June. That would enable Republicans to push through Bush's income tax cut, now pending on the Senate floor. In an atmosphere of extraordinary suspense, Democrats also acknowledged they were concerned about Republican attempts to counter Jeffords' presumed defection by enlisting Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga., to switch to the GOP. © Copyright 2001 The Associated Press -Original Message- From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] NR: Jeffords Bombshell: Party Switch Imminent -Caveat Lector- Now a lot of Republicans in a primary I presume put this man on the ticket to represent them...in the General Election he ran as a Repubican and his party put his name on the Republican Ballot. So now, if this guy wants to vote Republican or vote Democrat that is his choice - for many public officials do not agree on all issues. What this guy is doing verges on blackmail and why? He could vote as he pleases on any issue; but to change his party - he no longer holds the qualifications for the office he holds as a member of the Republican party and they should recall him immediately, impoeach, or whatever they do to in such matters. What is the big deal - he is getting publicty, but who the hell ever heard of him? So he says I am no longer a Republican? Fine, take away his office for he was not elected on the Demorat Ticket... Something wrong here...to change your vote is one thing, but to change your party is another. Much to do over nothing A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A mailto:HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to
Re: [CTRL] An Example Of How Bioreseach Could Kill Us All
-Caveat Lector- This research project was intended to produce a new type of hybrid hepatitis C virus, which would allow researchers to speed up their search for a vaccine and to replace the use of animals in much of this work. I ask my ex, the molecular biologist, what she thought of this. Here's what she said: Outrageous! I can't see how such a hybrid would in any way eliminate the need for animal testing. They're both animal viruses, and as far as I know, neither grows in bacteria or other than animal organisms. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: The Tom Bearden Website
-Caveat Lector- Lots of interesting things here. Includes satellite tracings of those mysterious circles we have been watching. Best I have seen on those. Lots of technical stuff but also articles for layperson. ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: The Tom Bearden Website http://www.cheniere.org/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] It's Not About Winning
Title: Its Not About Winning Its Not About Winning by Michael Peirce Last year Braves fans would have lynched me writing a piece with that title. Exiled Rhodesians and despairing American constitutionalists might take issue with it as well. So lets examine what "winning" means to Americans. The last year of the War of Northern Aggression pitted a Union general, Grant, who knew how to win, against General Lee, a man who knew how to lose. Which of them fought the better fight? Which of them is remembered as a man of dignity and honor? A better question might be, which of them thought it a sound military tactic to burn peoples homes and farms? Grant and his master, Lincoln, had no honor, but they won. The history books excoriate the Union general McClellan, remembered by Lees staff as the cleverest of all the Yankee generals, because he failed to take "stern" measures against Southern civilians. He was not prepared to fight a "total war" and so the result was, he failed to "win." But he died with no hint of dishonor attached to his name, and that counts for something. That same Federal government decided at the turn of the century, that America should take her place among the world powers. What better way than by killing a lot of people? After liberating the Philippines from the feeble clutches of the Spanish, we proceeded to slaughter a quarter million of the folks we "liberated." Their ingratitude still astounds some Americans. It was a taste of "victory" that should have left a bitter taste in the mouths of Americans, but it didnt. Great power that we now were, we used our place on the world stage to turn a war that was already a general massacre, into an outright catastrophe for human kind. In his search for "peace in our time" President Wilson managed to break the stalemate in that murderous European war and create a situation that virtually assured that there would be another and worse war to follow. His "genius" for leadership was such that the United States, having lost one hundred thousand dead in a war that had exactly nothing to do with our national interest, would fail even at his own silly dream of a league of nations. To the rare American who is even mildly aware of history, Wilson is typically remembered as a great leader, proving the premise that slaves are born, not made. Wilson pursued a personal agenda. Wilson can be said to have "won." His countrymen however, might take a different view but maybe not, since we continue to pursue "peace" through military aggression. Fast forward to the Second World War. Winston Churchill declined Hitlers peace overtures after the fall of France and continued to work furtively to drag the United States into yet another European military adventure. Churchill claimed to have spent his life opposing the communists but in his crazed fanaticism he pursued a policy that drowned the world in blood and turned over much of Eastern Europe to his former enemies. How many Jews, Poles and other civilians were killed in that insane war? How many German civilians, and soldiers of many different nationalities, including our own, were to die because of Churchills intransigence? Could he not have turned the horror off, then built up his war machine and followed a policy of containing the Germans at the channel and in Africa? Did he really care about Poland, the country over which England ostensibly went to war? The answer is obvious Poland was delivered into the hands of Stalin, who continued the same barbaric policies as Hitler! And Churchill sat at the table with those sinister men at Potsdam as they sealed the fate of millions, smoking his cigar and posturing. Ultimately, Churchill did what he did, simply because he felt like it. Remember, at that time (1940) Hitler was not practicing genocide and had merely won a first rate military campaign against the French and British, with relatively low losses on both sides. Even the air war had not yet escalated to the terror bomber raids on civilian targets not that is, until
[CTRL] ALL Organic Seeds Now Appear to Be CONTAMINATED
-Caveat Lector-
{{I knew there was a BIG problem with this some time back when
I tried to grow a small amount of organic food surrounded by
non-organic. One good breeze and it is all non-organic for
the pollen will be carried on the wind and bees and everything
else. The burden was placed on the organic farmer to keep his
product 'unpolluted' instead of the one whose product was
doing the contaminating. Even growing all organic food in an
enclosed greenhouse would not keep this out as it is
microscopic. The food, if processed, is often processed in
the same -places as the GM foods and who can say how well thy
are kept separate. What is truly frightening is that some
farms are testing GM seeds and may have rows of many different
varieties, all GM so that one has no way, other than plant
DNA, etc., of even knowing with which the organic crop is
contaminated.
I tried putting the tassels of corn in paper bags once as this
was once thought to prevent it but the end product was still
suspect. And lots of fungus from lack of adequate
ventilation,etc. Popcorn. Also tried with some roses in
reverse. So it is now all contaminated and Organic now only
refers to the methods of pest control and herbicides not used,
not the actual product. And if the wind is blowing when the
neighboring crop is being dusted or sprayed with who knows
what, especially if aircraft is used, well, you get the
picture. Also note our old friend David Gould quoted here.
~Amelia~}}
May 23, 2001
All Organic Seeds Now Appear to Be Contaminated With
Genetically Modified Crops
May 1, 2001 -- Cropchoice News
That was the gist of declarations by two organic agriculture
organizations to describe the effect of transgenic crop
production on organic farming. As is the case with
conventional soy, corn, and canola, organic crops have tested
positive for the presence of foreign genetic material because
of cross-pollination, seed stock contamination. The inability
to segregate transgenic crops from their organic and
conventional counterparts during harvest, handling, transport
and milling is also responsible for contamination.
The Organic Federation of Australia declared that
contamination from transgenic crops in the United States has
spread to such a degree that it cannot verify the purity of
imported organic ingredients.
Farm Verified Organic seconded that assertion. A press release
from the North Dakota certification agency stated: the GM
pollution of American commodities is now so pervasive, we
believe it is not possible for farmers in North America to
source seed free from it.
The widespread adoption of GM crops in the U.S. makes it
difficult to ensure that grain is not being contaminated with
genetically modified organisms (GMOs) as it is handled and
transported from the field to the end customer. Industry
insiders even question whether the foundation (parent) seed
for non-GM varieties can meet a 1% purity level, according to
the November 2000 edition of Farmindustrynews.com.
David Gould, a member of the certification committee of Farm
Verified Organic, discussed the contamination situation with
Cropchoice in February.
Our investigations thus far from the 2000 harvest lead us to
believe that virtually all of the seed corn in the United
states is contaminated with at least a trace of genetically
engineered material, and often more, Gould said. Even the
organic lots are showing traces of biotech varieties.
He pointed out the now familiar StarLink corn fiasco. Iowa
farmers planted 1 percent of their crop with StarLink. By
harvest time, 50 percent registered positive for the
genetically engineered variety.
Since his preferred option of a ban on transgenic crops
probably won't happen soon, Gould favors establishment of a
maximum tolerance level for genetically modified organisms in
organic crops. Currently, there is no universal standard. In
the case of corn, he said that if organic certifiers insisted
on 0 percent contamination, we shouldn't certify any corn.
At the same time, he worries that propagating transgenic crops
year after year will lead to the presence of more and more
foreign genes in organic and conventional varieties. This in
turn, would mean raising the tolerance levels. Whether the
organic stamp of approval would then become something of a
joke is open to debate.
But one should remember that organic standards have to do with
production, not purity, said Annie Kirschenmann, of Farm
Verified Organic. This means that testing for any kind of
residue, be it from pesticide or genetic drift, is not part of
determining whether to certify a farm as organic.
Cropchoice.com May 1, 2001
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Well here we have it, the first suggestion that this is the
beginning of the end for pure food crops. It appears that
nearly all the organic seeds have some level of contamination
with genetically modified crops.
Let me repeat one of the above
[CTRL] Conspiracy in the business world
-Caveat Lector- Control, control, control of commerce in a very few hands. Put a stranglehold on the control of money and jobs and see how quickly people fall into line with the new line of thinking. Just tell a businessman that he's out of compliance and he can be forced to kiss toes, go to court, or go out of business. A friend wrote the following and I thought it should be shared. Sometimes seeing a conspiracy only means getting an insight on what is happening. The author was willing to share his insight but want his privacy. I told him I would share any feedback he received. -- An official trade association ostensibly provides government advocacy in behalf of the specific industry, to ease the burden of federal and state regulations that impact our industry. Such organizations exist for all industries, most likely with similar goals and activities. We have the impression that they are there to obtain regulatory relief in the form of legal, scientific and administrative challenges to regulatory nonsense. They should be out there suing the agencies and lobbying Congress to overturn bad laws that hurt our industry. But over the last ten years I have continually noticed their lethargy at that stated cause. If anything, they are most effective at facilitating the implementation of those rules and laws within the industry, not fighting them. In fact, at times I was ostracized by certain members of the orgainzation I was involved with for doing too much alerting and not enough facilitating. However, even more important to this organization than the conditioning process to accept and adopt burdensome and silly regulations has been the promotion of the world economy and global village, or in other words, the greening of the industry, through the implementation of their Environmental Management System (EMS), which is patterned after the Chemical Manufacturer's Association EMS, Responsible Care. After criticizing the program to a couple of their change agents at a conference in Chicago a few years ago, and being rejected out of hat, I found the opportunity to spend some special time one night at the restaurant with one of their principle litigators. After a while he started sharing and began toying with me to lighten up on globalism. We had been talking about new age and environmentalism, most of which bounced right off his countenance, when we started talking about our backgrounds. He confessed that his spiritual hero in school was none other than Pierre Teilhard deChardin, the father of the omega man theory of planetary evolution. We talked about Point Omega and Jim wanted to make sure that I didn't have a misconception of it. After a lengthy explanation, he indicated that he fully believed in Teilhard's prophecy of the emergence of the global being, divine matter of us all, but he prefaced it with a warning. If we don't get with this cosmic program, when the omega point does precipitate, it will be a total, final destruction. But if we get on the ball now and prepare for it properly, we may survive it as the emergent global divinity. His mission in life was apparently to help us all prepare for that inevitable point in our collective evolution and make sure that the earth survives the final cut. His reason for uncharacteristically sharing this vision with me was to pry me off of my resistant bandwagon to cooperate with his and the association's greater agenda. Since then, the organization has been coming out of their new age closet showing more and more of their rainbow colors, but still careful to play the advocacy game, as if they really cared about beaurocracy. In fact, quite to the contrary, that same night he explained to me that increasing states of red tape and regulations could effectively serve the Plan by creating a more complicated world order. With higher states of complication comes higher states of disorder and thus higher order is needed to respond to it. Our stress is just growing pains to an emerging planetary management system, a sort of super-brain to regulate all of this growing red tape. This Hegelian process drives the emergence of the higher planetary divinity, like labor drives the baby from the womb. As he explained it in true Teilhardian style, the increasing states of meiosis increases the number of cells in the zygote. In a closed system, eventually this constant complexification must infold again and again in order to contain itself, creating the seeds of internal organs and limbs and other diverse proto body parts. As the system continues to grow through complexification, eventually the womb can no longer contain the growing embryo and he finally emerges from his closed environment, as it were, in an instant. As he was explaining all of this, it dawned on me that more laws, reglations, codes and standards literally drives our organized response resulting
[CTRL] FC: Legal barriers to human cloning may be few, from Washington Post (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61636-2001May22.html By Rick Weiss Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, May 23, 2001; Page A01 The letter from the Food and Drug Administration got right to the point. You are receiving this letter because in media reports and on your website you have expressed an intention to pursue the creation of a human being using cloning technology, it said. Human cloning is subject to FDA regulation, the letter warned. You should be aware that failure to comply with FDA regulatory requirements may lead to enforcement action. The March 23 letter went to Brigitte Boisselier, scientific director of an obscure religious group that has said it will clone a dead child, and to Kentucky scientist Panos Zavos, who recently said that he, too, intends to clone someone. But Boisselier and Zavos say the FDA is bluffing, and they're not alone. Many legal scholars say they find little evidence to support the FDA's assertion of authority over cloning. They say food and drug laws provide no legal basis for stopping doctors from trying to clone a person, and if the FDA tried to do so it would lose in court. Moreover, the prime alternative to FDA regulation -- a congressional ban on human cloning -- may be just as untenable. The six anti-cloning bills pending before Congress are entangled in the politics of abortion. Some legal scholars suspect that even if a ban were to pass on the Hill, it might be struck down as unconstitutional because it would abridge the fundamental right to procreate. That could mean there is little to stop anyone in this country from pursuing human cloning. [...] - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYM: Patriot Games
-Caveat Lector- the national interest Patriot Games David Brock was the lead gun on The American Spectator's anti-Clinton hit squad -- that is, before he switched sides. Now he says Ted Olson, Bush's lawyer, was, too. Should we care? BY TUCKER CARLSON May 28, 2001 issue of New York Magazine If you're a Salon.com reader, you may be wondering why Ted Olson isn't in jail by now. Despite his evasive disavowals, blared a recent headline in the on-line magazine, Salon investigations showed the right-wing consigliere was deeply involved in a sordid plot to bring down President Clinton. According to evidence assembled by an investigative team, for a time in the nineties, Ted Olson did legal work for The American Spectator -- a magazine that published articles critical of Bill Clinton. And that's not all. On at least one occasion, Olson himself wrote a story hostile both to Clinton and to his wife. Naturally, it was only a matter of time before the scoop -- evidence of Olson's deep involvement in an evil plot to produce unflattering magazine articles -- was noticed on Capitol Hill. The time came in April, when President Bush nominated Olson to be the U.S. solicitor general. Olson had seemed a natural choice for the job. He was generally well regarded in Washington. Most significant, he had argued many times before the Supreme Court, including on behalf of the Bush campaign during the Florida recount. He was considered reasonably scholarly and reliably conservative -- just what you'd want if you were George W. Bush and in the market for a solicitor general. Then the Salon.com bombshell dropped. Democrats on the judiciary committee asked Olson pointed questions about his affiliation with The American Spectator. Pat Leahy of Vermont was particularly eager to discover what Olson might know about the Arkansas Project, the Spectator's investigation into Clinton's behavior as governor of Arkansas. Were you involved in the so-called Arkansas Project at any time? Leahy wanted to know. When and how did you first become aware of the Arkansas Project? Olson's replies were straightforward. Pointing out that he was not an employee but a member of the magazine's board, Olson said he had no direct role in the Arkansas Project. He said that he first became aware of the project sometime in 1998. The one Clinton story he wrote for the magazine had nothing to do with it. The story might have ended here if the judiciary committee hadn't heard from David Brock. Brock used to work at the Spectator. He had a different memory. According to Brock, Ted Olson's role in the magazine's anti-Clinton stories was larger than he had admitted. As Brock later told the Washington Post, Olson attended dinners at the home of Bob Tyrrell, The American Spectator's editor-in-chief. Some of those dinners, Brock alleged, were actually editorial planning sessions, on articles on the Clintons in Arkansas. Senator Leahy was appalled. He demanded that Olson turn over any minutes, audits, or records pertaining to anti-Clinton articles and the Arkansas Project. And he suggested that investigators from the judiciary committee obtain information firsthand from writers and editors who worked at the Spectator during the years Olson served on the board. In the meantime, Olson's journey to the solicitor general's office stalled. There are two striking things about Ted Olson's recent experiences in the Senate. One is that so far, hardly anyone on Olson's side -- or, for that matter, at the ACLU or on the Washington Post's editorial page -- has cried McCarthyism. Olson has not been charged with a crime. He stands accused of being in the company of journalists who dislike Bill Clinton. This shouldn't be enough to derail a nomination. The other thing is that Brock was able with a straight face to describe any dinner at Bob Tyrrell's house as an editorial planning session. To anyone who has ever eaten dinner with Bob Tyrrell (and I have a number of times), this is ludicrous. A sober Tyrrell sitting at the table, sharing his editorial vision, listening as story ideas are batted around? Impossible to imagine. Perhaps Brock was using editorial planning session as an amusing euphemism. But he almost certainly wasn't. Which is part of the reason the entire sordid plot theory is so ridiculously improbable. Bob Tyrrell was never at the center of a powerful conspiracy. He was a buffoon. The Arkansas Project never came close to bringing down the president. The investigation didn't even produce a credible magazine story. Indeed, the Arkansas Project -- wasteful, misguided, and credibility-sapping -- is one of the main reasons The American Spectator no longer exists in recognizable form. It's now a business magazine. The Arkansas Project didn't destroy Clinton. It destroyed The American Spectator. So, was Ted Olson, as a member of the board of a small conservative magazine, a threat to American democracy? Even Pat Leahy must know
Re: [CTRL] NR: Jeffords Bombshell: Party Switch Imminent
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/23/01 12:46:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In an atmosphere of extraordinary suspense, Democrats also acknowledged they were concerned about Republican attempts to counter Jeffords' presumed defection by enlisting Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga., to switch to the GOP. I'm concerned even that he delayed his announcement until tomorrow. I hope he remains safe and sound. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SFLR on Michael Aquino - Part II
-Caveat Lector- My recollection from reading the book is that Cathy and Mark presented the shapeshifting as fact, without a disclaimer that this might have been only what Cathy perceived. It seems to me that Icke has picked this up aspect and run with it. I think Mark Phillips and Icke are disinfo agents, and that what Cathy recalled was true except in the cases where Mark influenced her recollection. Samantha In a message dated 5/23/01 10:50:00 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The excerpts from the book written by Phillips and O'Brien help to explain to any with open minds how some of the victims of mind-control programming could be convinced of shape-shifters. Whether David Icke (whom some find to be so objectionable) has intentionally misconstrued these accounts or is engaged in disinformation attempts is unknown. He does post an assortment of all kinds of reports involving mind-control, and the reader must follow the premise of this list-- Caveat Lector A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/23/01 10:07:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the proof of this is? Do you have proof that he is not. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Bills would ban using cell phones while driving (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Only state would be constitutional he is pointing out that the 10th amendment prohobits federal legislation in this area... visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:16:42 -0700 From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SNET: Bills would ban using cell phones while driving - SNETNEWS Mailing List I suppose you believe that laws prohibiting the use of alcohol and drugs while driving are also unconstitutional. Steve On 23 May 01, at 13:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where the hell does the U.S govt get off telling us what we can do when we drive ? Withholding highway funds from states for this is not only blackmail, but violates the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Mark ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1ddDh.b2B0gP Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- Do you have proof that he is not. He presented his case well. You have not presented your case at all. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/23/01 2:07:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you have proof that he is not. He presented his case well. You have not presented your case at all. You still have not presented proof that he is not. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] From Acorns To Oaks
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Euro was Nazi idea, says Tory veteran
By George Jones, Political Editor
SIR PETER TAPSELL, a veteran Conservative candidate, inflamed the election debate on
Europe yesterday by using his personal address to compare the euro to policies
promoted by Nazi Germany.
In his election leaflet for his Louth and Horncastle constituency, Sir Peter told
voters: A single European currency was first proposed by the Nazi Reichsbank to
Hitler at the time of Dunkirk as a means of perpetuating German dominance in Europe.
Now it is EU policy.
He repeated a pledge that he gave at the last general election to never vote to
join a single European currency or a federal Europe. He said: I am the only
candidate here with the experience and determination fiercely to resist the
subjugation of our national way of life to a European Union dominated by Franco-
German priorities and riddled with corruption.
Tory officials, while embarrassed by the anti-German tone of his address, said Sir
Peter, 71, he would not be disciplined because his views were well known - even
though they went beyond party policy. Earlier, Lord Lamont, a leading Euro-sceptic,
said the outcome of the general election could have a crucial bearing on a
subsequent referendum on whether Britain should join the European single currency.
He said Tony Blair was desperate to keep the issue of the euro out of the general
election campaign. But according to legislation already forced through Parliament,
state funding for the Yes and No campaigns in any referendum would be calculated by
the number of votes cast in this election.
Lord Lamont told the euro-sceptic Bruges Group: The more votes for pro-euro
parties, and the more pro-euro parties there are, the bigger the total amount of
state funding for the pro-euro campaign. So Plaid Cymru, the SN
P, the Liberal Democrats and Labour will qualify for grants for the pro-euro campaign,
and only the Conservatives and tiny UK Independence Party will qualify for funding on
the anti-euro side.
He said Britain was facing the most vital election for decades and the result could
determine whether the country remained self-governing.
I would never give up the pound, declares Thatcher
Sir Peter Tapsell - Conservative Party
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Liechtenstein in Nazi gold scandal
From AFP
23may01
08:25 (AEST) THE World Jewish Congress is preparing to launch legal action against
Liechtenstein, accusing the tiny European state of hoarding stolen Nazi gold and
other assets during World War II, a spokesman in New York said today.
Building a case against Liechtenstein based on US intelligence documents relating to
the period, Elan Steinberg, the council's spokesman and executive director, said
lawsuits would be filed soon.
We have now begun to amass documents, he said, adding, We expect shortly to
initiate class-action suits against Liechtenstein.
In 1998, a settlement concerning Nazi assets was reached with Swiss banks, but the
deal specifically excluded Liechtenstein, he said.
It's now clear that like Switzerland, Liechtenstein banks and other institutions were
in possession of huge amounts of Nazi gold, which is to say stolen gold, and other
Nazi assets, Steinberg added.
Liechtenstein was like Switzerland...on a smaller scale, but not much of a smaller
scale.
He said documents gathered to support the case included declassified documents
gathered by the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the precursor of today's CIA.
He said that several documents questioned the role of Martin Hilti, a Liechtenstein
industrialist whose group is today a world leader in fastenings and demolition systems
in the construction industry.
OSS documents charge that Martin Hilti was holding German assets, funds belonging to
former Nazi leaders, and was a camouflage for those funds, Steinberg said.
Now that the Germany case has been settled, and of course the settlement with
Switzerland has been achieved, we're now going to begin to disseminate the
documentation on Liechtenstein, which is not free from legal closur
e.
Under US law, plaintiffs can file suits seeking legal redress in cases in which the
alleged wrongs took place outside the United States.
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State among its hapless subjects. His task is to demonstrate
repeatedly and in depth that not only the emperor but even the
democratic State has no clothes; that all governments subsist
by exploitive rule over the public; and that such rule is the reverse
of objective necessity. He strives to show that the existence of
taxation and the State necessarily sets up a class division between
the exploiting rulers and the exploited ruled. He seeks to show that
the task of the court intellectuals who have always supported the State
has ever been to weave mystification in order to induce the public to
accept State rule and that these intellectuals obtain, in return, a
share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded
subjects.
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Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- Appeals to ignorance and the burden of proof http://members.aol.com/jimn469897/ignorance.htm The basis of a an appeal to ignorance (also called argumentum ad ignoratium or argument from ignorance, see Walton) is that whatever has not been disproved must be correct. The problem with this type of argument can be seen in these two examples: No one has ever proved that the Loch Ness Monster exists, so it must not exist. No one has ever proved that the Loch Ness Monster does not exist, so it must exist. These arguments are contradictory, only one can be true and it is not possible to tell which one it is. Such an argument proves nothing, its main effect is to shift the burden of proof. (Stated properly, an appeal to ignorance is not a fallacy. This statement is perfectly good but of course does not prove that nessie does not exist: Numerous searches of the loch have been made and no monster has ever been found. And the evidence for the monster has been shown to be fake or caused by natural phenomena. We can reasonably assume that there is no Loch Ness Monster.) More example of appeals to ignorance: No one has ever proved that silicon breast implants (or electromagnetic fields or whatever) are safe. No one has ever proved that silicon breast implants are unsafe. Senator Joseph McCarthy (from Walton pages 3-4): I do not have much information on this except the general statement of the agency that there is nothing in the files to disprove his Communist connections. Of course a lack of proof that someone is not a Communist is not proof that they are a communist. I do not know that this gun is unloaded, so I will assume that it is loaded. This is an example of the precautionary principle. In the face of a lack of knowledge it is better to be safe than sorry. A special case is what I call an appeal to personal ignorance. In this case the author does not know of proof for (or against) an argument, and so assumes that no such proof exists. Dixy Lee Ray (with Lou Guzzo) was particularly good at making this type of argument. In Environmental Overkill (page 35) she wrote: How does CFC rise when its molecules are four to eight times heavier than air? All experience with freon and related CFCs shows that they are non-volatile and so heavy that you can pour CFCs from a container and if some of them spill, they will collect at the lowest point on the ground where soil bacterial will decompose them. Of course, some molecules will be caught in upward air eddies or otherwise carried upwards, but this is a very small fraction of the total. She does not appear to have made any effort to answer the question in the first sentence. She did not consult with any atmospheric scientists, or check any reference work, scientific paper or government report. Instead she simply assumed that no known mechanism existed. (This claim has been debunked several times, see Parson, Rowland) Also on page 35 she wrote We do not know how these heavier-than-air molecules cross the equatorial counter currents to accumulate at the South Pole and do the most ozone destruction there. If by we she meant co-author Guzzo and herself then she is probable right. But if by we she meant the scientific community then she is very wrong (Parson ) (and CFCs simply do not accumulate at the South Pole). Burden of Proof In general, it is up to the person making an argument to try to prove it. Of course, there are special cases where the burden of proof is assigned. In criminal court cases (in the United States) it is up to the prosecution to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. With chemicals and other manufactured products it was at one time up to the public to show that the products were unsafe. Over time, the burden of proof has been shifting to the manufacturers to prove safety. For example, pharmaceuticals must be proven to be safe and effective before they are permitted. Most environmentalists would like to see the burden of proof shifted to the manufacturers for all types of products (the precautionary principle). Things to remember In general, it is up to the person making a claim to try to prove it. Do not be tricked into trying to disprove someone else's claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Absolute certainty is not required to set public policy (in fact, there is no such thing as absolute scientific certainty). We do not have to prove that ozone depletion or global warming are real, or that the Bermuda Triangle is not real, to set public policy. -end- At 05:26 PM 5/23/01 -0400, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/23/01 2:07:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you have proof that he is not. He presented his case well. You have not presented your case at all. You still have not presented proof that he is not. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
In a message dated 5/23/01 12:07:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, it does appear that the writer is out of touch with reality. And the proof of this is? The "proof" in their eyes is that Rush says that the media is "liberal" and that's that. Any paradigm shifting or REAL examination of the evidence is over their heads and simply ain't gonna' happen. Bill.
Re: [CTRL] NR: Jeffords Bombshell: Party Switch Imminent
In a message dated 5/23/01 12:46:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So he says I am no longer a Republican? Fine, take away his office for he was not elected on the Demorat Ticket... Then please do same to Ben Nighthorse Campbell who pulled the same act a few years back. Bill.
[CTRL] Egypt Planning Major Military Exercise
http://www.geostrategy-direct.com/geostrategy-direct/ Egypt to conduct major offensive exercise Egypt's military is preparing for a major exercise meant to test its ground-based offensive capabilities. The exercise will be led by the Egyptian Third Army. The army operates in the Suez area near the Sinai peninsula. Western defense attaches have seen the biannual Egyptian exercise as a scenario based on a conflict with Israel to the east. Egyptian officials said the forthcoming exercise would include fixed-wing aircraft and helicopter support for the mock invasion. The offensive would be led by tanks and mechanized units. Western defense sources in Cairo said Egypt aims to address criticism that the ground forces comprise the weakest element of the military. Unlike naval and air force personnel, infantry soldiers are regarded as the least trained and educated in the military. This week, the Egyptian Third Army held preparations for the combat exercise. The preparations — attended by Arab and some Western defense attaches — included the deployment of mechanized infantry, armored units, air support and air defense systems. The preparations also included administrative and support units. The Third Army maneuvers focused on advancing armored and mechanized units forward toward enemy lines. The ground forces were backed by combat jets and attack helicopters. The official Middle East News Agency deemed the maneuvers as a success. The agency said troops moved rapidly through desert terrain, benefitted by an efficient command structure. Gen. Magada Hatata, commander of the Third Army, urged his commanders to show initiative. Hatata said Egypt must increase cooperation and coordination between air and ground forces to bolster military strength. Meanwhile Russia plans to sell military jets or major aircraft subsystems to Egypt and its Arab neighbors. Industry sources said Russia is negotiating with Cairo and several North African Arab clients for the sale of transport jets and helicopters. They said the proposed sale was discussed last month during a visit by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to Moscow. Egypt, the sources said, is largely interested in Russian support aircraft for its air force. The Egyptian air force is based on U.S.-supplied combat jets such as the F-16. The sources said they expect to complete formal negotiations with Egypt over the next year for the sale of aircraft. They did not elaborate. Russia has also targeted Egypt's neighbors, including Algeria and Libya, for aircraft sales. Algeria has already ordered 22 Su-24 fighter-bombers. Egypt could also serve as a market for a Russian upgrade of Cairo's Soviet air fleet, the sources said. Egypt still has in operation up to 10 Su-24s and 40 MiG-23s. In Cairo, the Egyptian military has launched plans for a major exercise to train troops and armored and mechanized units to work in unision. Officials said the planned exercise by the Third Army is meant to bolster Egypt's offensive capability and increase the speed of movements by large numbers of troops.
[CTRL] MLK Murder Was Government Plot
http://www.4bypass.com/feature.htm MLK Murder Was a Government Plot" Former CIA participant says he was part of it, Raoul identified as FBI Agent by Pat Shannan New evidence has surfaced in the 1968 Martin Luther King Jr. murder case, supplied by an insider who claims to have been part of a "hit team" that had come out of the "Missouri Mafia" headquartered in the town of Caruthersville, a small town in the boot heel section of that state. In a yet-to-be-published book, former Missouri County Deputy Jim Green reveals his assigned role in the conspiracy, the name of the actual triggerman, and the long-suspected involvement of J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI. Green also believes that he possesses the actual murder weapon, which he personally secreted away only hours after the murder. Jim Green is telling the truth," says Lyndon Barsten, an astute researcher of the case over the past decade. "I have no doubt whatsoever. The pieces he has supplied fit perfectly and could not have come from someone who was not there." Indeed they do fit, and it is all backed up by FBI documentation derived by Barsten through numerous FOIA requests. On April 4, 1968, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was gunned down on the second floor balcony of the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, Tenn., by a single shot from a high-powered rifle. Several witnesses said the shot came from the bushes on a slope from across the street. The FBI concluded that it came from the rear bathroom window of a cheap hotel, also across the street and higher up the hill. Two weeks later the name of James Earl Ray, a fugitive escapee from the Missouri State Penitentiary, was announced to the world as the man who killed King, had escaped to Canada and was currently in hiding somewhere across the border. After Ray was identified as the killer, and long before he was captured, the FBI spent little or no time pursuing any other leads. Two months later the fugitive was caught changing planes at Heathrow Airport in London after having left Canada and spending ten days with persons unknown in Portugal. He was attempting to board a plane to Brussels. On March 10, 1969, James Earl Ray, with his attorney Percy Foreman, pled guilty to the murder before the court of Judge Preston Battle. He was sentenced to 99 years in prison. He recanted almost immediately and filed a motion for a trial only three days later. But before the month was out, Judge Battle was found dead in his chambers, slumped over his desk. Beneath his head were the papers of the handwritten motion from James Earl Ray. The case was closed, and Ray began his sentence in the Tennessee State Penitentiary. The "Official" Story The scenario released by Memphis police and the FBI and later used by the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) was that in late March of 1968, James Earl Ray had purchased a Remington 30.06 rifle from the Aeromarine Supply Store in Birmingham and had traveled with it to Memphis in a white Mustang. Here he checked into Bessie Brewer’s boarding house in the 400 block of South Main Street on the afternoon of April 4th. Directly behind it was the Lorraine Motel on Mulberry Street. At 6:00 p.m. Martin L. King stepped out of room 306 and was joined by a group of followers with whom he had been in a meeting all afternoon. He was gunned down only a minute later by a single shot from the rear bathroom window across the street. Not one witness saw the actual firing of the shot or claimed it had come from the window. Most believed it had come from the bushes on the slope, fifty feet closer. Still according to the official story, Ray allegedly ran out of the bathroom and down the hall to his room. Here he stuffed the rifle back into its box and included it with a bundle containing his clothes, binoculars, ammunition, a beer can with his fingerprints; and perhaps the most incriminating of all, a portable radio with his inmate number from the Missouri State Penitentiary engraved in the back side. He ran down the stairs and out onto the street where he then dumped the bundle in the doorway of Canipe’s Amusement Company next door to the rooming house. He then zoomed away in the soon-to-be-infamous white Mustang. He stayed a few days in Atlanta before moving on to Canada. James Earl’s Version In 1987, after being imprisoned for 19 years, Ray told his side of the story in Tennessee Waltz, a book that went out of print and was later published under the title of Who Killed Martin Luther King? (The biggest loss here was original publisher Tupper Saussy’s brilliant epilogue, "The Politics of Witchcraft," which exposed certain secrets that the establishment publishers preferred not to discuss. Under the new title the epilogue was eliminated.) However, he appeared be avoiding "the whole truth and nothing but the truth" in certain areas, apparently out of fear of self-incrimination – not necessarily for the murder but for some lesser
[CTRL] German Military Vehicles Fail Foot Mouth Tests In Texas
http://www.meatingplace.com/meatingplace/DailyNews/News.asp?ID=7473 German Vehicles Fail Foot-and-Mouth Tests at Texas Port by Joshua Lipsky An Agriculture Department official in Beaumont, Texas, rejected 35 of 66 German military vehicles from moving out of the Port of Beaumont because they did not pass inspection for possible foot-and-mouth disease contamination, according to The Beaumont Enterprise. The USDA official also rejected five of 13 shipping containers because exterior dirt hadn't been cleaned before arrival at the port. “There is really no way to determine if (soil on the trucks and containers) is contaminated with foot-and-mouth disease,” Doug Frank, the USDA official told the Enterprise. “Importation of soils into the United States in general is prohibited. “This [preventing the introduction of foot-and-mouth into the U.S.] is our priority right now,” Frank added. “We're doing everything we possibly can to keep this disease out of the United States.” The German equipment was bound for joint exercises at Fort Bliss with Dutch and English military units. (To read more about the joint military exercises and precautions the USDA is taking, read USDA Taking Extra Foot-and-Mouth Precautions for Military Exercises in May 15Daily News). Lt. Cmdr. Joachim Stocksieker, the German naval officer in charge, said the inspections came as surprise to him. “We didn't expect this,” he told the Enterprise. “We don't understand why we have this problem here.” Frank said the inspections are part of the USDA's extraordinary precautions to keep foot-and-mouth disease out of the U.S. “Germany is considered suspect for foot-and-mouth disease, even though it had no actual cases,” Frank said. “Precautions are extraordinary because it's an extraordinary disease. “We cannot fathom what the impact on our economy would be. We're used to going to Kroger's or whatever and getting exactly what we want for the price we want. With foot-and-mouth, that would not be the case,” he said. “Trust me, you don't want to see it. This [inspections] minimizes the risk. The USDA and the state of Texas are doing everything we can to keep it out.”
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- A wild coincidence that this article mentions nessie? Appeals to ignorance and the burden of proof http://members.aol.com/jimn469897/ignorance.htm The basis of a an appeal to ignorance (also called argumentum ad ignoratium or argument from ignorance, see Walton) is that whatever has not been disproved must be correct. The problem with this type of argument can be seen in these two examples: No one has ever proved that the Loch Ness Monster exists, so it must not exist. No one has ever proved that the Loch Ness Monster does not exist, so it must exist. These arguments are contradictory, only one can be true and it is not possible to tell which one it is. Such an argument proves nothing, its main effect is to shift the burden of proof. (Stated properly, an appeal to ignorance is not a fallacy. This statement is perfectly good but of course does not prove that nessie does not exist: Numerous searches of the loch have been made and no monster has ever been found. And the evidence for the monster has been shown to be fake or caused by natural phenomena. We can reasonably assume that there is no Loch Ness Monster.) = Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Men are jerks. Women are psychotic. -- Kurt Vonnegut (in Timequake) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYDN: Feds give Congress go-ahead to make her testify
-Caveat Lector- Denise Immunity OKd Feds give Congress go-ahead to make her testify By TIMOTHY J. BURGER in Washington and GREG B. SMITH in New York New York Daily News Staff Writers The Justice Department has given Congress the green light to grant Denise Rich immunity and have her testify publicly about the campaign to win a presidential pardon for ex-husband Marc Rich, officials said yesterday. We've gotten approval from Justice, Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.), chairman of the Government Reform and Oversight Committee, told the Daily News. As I understand it ... they said they have no objection to us immunizing her. Rich appeared before Congress earlier this year, but invoked her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and declined to testify. Without a grant of immunity, Congress could not force the award-winning songwriter to tell how her ex-husband won an eleventh-hour pardon from President Bill Clinton, despite being a fugitive in a federal tax case. Investigators want to know whether Marc Rich illegally funneled donations to favorite Clinton causes through straw donors in return for supporting his pardon request. Denise Rich contributed generously to the Democratic Party and the Clinton presidential library. Denise Rich's lawyer, Martin Pollner, declined to comment on Burton's remarks. A Justice Department spokesman could not be reached. The decision to allow Rich to get congressional immunity could indicate that her testimony may not be incriminating. Federal prosecutors would risk forfeiting her testimony by signing off on congressional immunity. During the Iran-Contra scandal, the conviction of Oliver North was overturned because prosecutors used North's statements before Congress against him after he had been granted congressional immunity. Burton also said he's still looking at Roger Clinton and his partners and hopes to be making a decision in the next week or two on whether he'll be called to testify on whether the former First Brother accepted money to lobby then-President Clinton for pardons. But Burton said he wouldn't call Clinton, Rich or any other witnesses for public testimony unless interviews or other investigation suggest they have new information. Burton would have to get Democratic support on his panel to win the needed two-thirds vote to grant immunity to Rich. Ranking committee Democrat Henry Waxman of California has frequently backed Burton's requests to give immunity to potential witnesses. Committee staffers are poring over reams of bank, credit card and phone records to see whether there are worthwhile avenues of investigation. You have to check whether there are financial interests and payoffs, Burton said. Original Publication Date: 5/23/01 === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYDN: Torricelli Probers Seize Dem Records in Jersey
-Caveat Lector- Torricelli Probers Seize Dem Records in Jersey By OWEN MORITZ Staff Writer New York Daily News Federal prosecutors targeting Sen. Robert Torricelli (D-N.J.) have seized records of the Morris County Democratic organization in what appears to be an expanding investigation, officials said yesterday. County party officials confirmed yesterday that hundreds of internal records from Torricelli's 1996 campaign were turned over to FBI agents this month. We did what we had to and turned over originals, Alan Zegas, the county organization's lawyer, said yesterday. This comes on the heels of similar cooperation from the Bergen County Democratic organization, Torricelli's home party. New Jersey's senior senator is already being probed by the U.S. attorney's office for his connections to commodities broker David Chang. Chang pleaded guilty to illegally funneling money into Torricelli's $12 million Senate campaign. Chang also reportedly has told investigators he lavished gifts of cash, jewelry and expensive Italian suits on the senator. Torricelli reported no such gifts on his disclosure forms. Prosecutors apparently have opened a new front in their probe, trying to determine whether Torricelli's campaign violated federal law by funneling money into county organizations, which then paid some of his expenses. Morris County Democratic chairman Paul Bangiola said yesterday he has great faith in Torricelli's integrity. Torricelli repeatedly has denied any illegal activities. The FBI referred calls yesterday to the U.S. attorney's office in New York, which had no comment. The senator's office also had no comment. Original Publication Date: 5/23/01 === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/23/01 3:30:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Always entertaining to try and prove a negative Well... Bill H A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/23/01 4:00:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Men are jerks. Women are psychotic. -- Kurt Vonnegut (in Timequake) This is really insightful. Bill H A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NYDN: Torricelli Probers Seize Dem Records in Jersey
-Caveat Lector- Morris County Democratic chairman Paul Bangiola said yesterday he has great faith in Torricelli's integrity. I'm sure Torricelli has at least as much integrity as any other New Jersey politician. Tenorlove trying hard to keep a straight face __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NASA Agents Serve Warrant, Officials In The Dark
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,25528,00.html NASA Agents Serve Warrant; Agency Officials Say They're in Dark Wednesday, May 23, 2001 LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — A NASA spokesman says the space agency's inspector general's office is keeping quiet about the details of a federal raid on a manufacturing plant in Arkansas -- even to those within the agency. "The inspector general's office has told us to refer all questions to the U.S. attorney," NASA spokesman Bob Jacobs said Wednesday. "Even if we knew anything, we couldn't talk, but we don't know anything." On May 17, about two dozen agents raided Greenville Tube Corp., a metal tube manufacturer in Clarksville. Witnesses reported seeing some agents wearing FBI identification and others with NASA identification. Jacobs said the agency's inspector general's office is most active in investigating computer fraud and misappropriations by contractors. "If it was a computer hacker, then not only would the inspector general's office be involved, but it would involve the FBI," Jacobs said. John Corbett, a resident agent in NASA's inspector general's office, confirmed Wednesday that NASA served a warrant on the Clarksville plant and was assisted on the raid by the FBI. Corbett said some products made at Greenville Tube could be used on rocket test stands. He said he was not authorized to discuss the case and referred questions to the U.S. attorney's office in Fort Smith. Bill Cromwell of Fort Smith, U.S. attorney for the Western District of Arkansas, told Clarksville radio station KXIO that during the "normal" course of an investigation, he would have already released a statement. "It could be several months before we're in a position to make any official comment" on last week's action, Cromwell said. Brian Marshall, a spokesman for the FBI in Little Rock, would only say that it is against department policy to discuss ongoing investigations. Even the office of a key congressman on a committee that oversees space issues was unaware of the investigation. "If there was a raid, then no one is talking," said Janet Poppleton with the office of U.S. Rep. Ralph Hall, D-Texas. Hall is the ranking Democrat on the Science, Space and Technology Committee, which deals directly with NASA, Poppleton said. NASA officials from Washington to Huntsville, Ala., are keeping quiet and referring all questions to the U.S. attorney's office at Fort Smith. Vicki Lyons, executive director of the Clarksville-Johnson County Chamber of Commerce, said FBI agents took computers and files from the business, which employs about 225 people. She said the company provides some products to a distributor that sells to NASA.
[CTRL] Email will begin again on Friday night
-Caveat Lector- Dear Friends: I got rid of AOL 6.0 and am back on AOL 5.0. I will begin email again on Friday night. Have still some things to do to catch up on things. I talked to alot of people who tried 6.0 and found that a majority don;t like it. Some said it caused their computers to crash. For me it didn't allow me to use my addresses. So if I were you I wouldn't try 6.0. God Bless Bill A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Italian child-sex rings, repressed memory research
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find information on these two articles. Sincerely, Neil Brick excerpt from http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/05/21/italy.paedophiles/index.html This article may be very heavy for survivors to read. Italian child-sex ring arrests - Rome, Italy -- Police in Italy believe they have broken a paedophile ring suspected of abusing children as young as five. Among those arrested ...were doctors, businessmen and a school cleaner.As well as the six arrests, police seized 89,000 explicit pictures, 128 video films and 5,000 files. Ninety-one children, whose ages range from five to 13, were sexually abused, police said. Suspected repressed childhood sexual abuse: Gender effects on diagnosis and treatment. Sullins CD Psychology of Women Quarterly 1998 Sep Vol 22(3) 403-418 These results do not support reports that many therapists neglect clients' current symptoms and instead focus on memories, use controversial techniques, make suggestive statements regarding abuse, or immediately assume that their clients have repressed memories. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UPN 9 News: Al Sharpton Behind Bars!
-Caveat Lector- UPN 9 News (TV, New York area) just reported that Al Sharpton has been sentenced to, and is now serving, 90 days in jail in Puerto Rico for his protests against the Naval bombing in Vieques. His supporters call it a political move, coming just days after he announced he would run for president in 2004. Nothing on the Net, yet. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- A wild coincidence that this article mentions nessie? That's Loch Ness. I'm Bob Ness. We're cousins. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Big media pushes news to the far right
-Caveat Lector- This is really insightful. Indeed. But what about: Well... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UFO Text Files and Reports
Title: UFO Text Files and Reports UFO Text Files and Reports This Page Online 11/29/2000 More Reports Coming Soon! Introduction to the Krill Reports The Krill Reports, part 1 The Krill Reports, part 2 The Krill Reports, part 3 The Krill Reports, part 4 When Pilots See UFOs Former Intelligence Agent Report Navy Bombers Disappear UFO Bible Connection Casualties of a Cosmic War Inspector General of Air Force order of 1959 Survey of what Ufologists believe in The Underground Empire The Ten Most Compelling UFO Cases in History Witnesses Report Seeing Aliens at U.S. Bases Star Systems The Rockefeller - UFO Connection: An Alien Conspiracy? Men In Black Top Secret Majic Project Grudge/Aquarius The Government and the Greys A Short Profile of the Greys Current Theories on the Greys Who are the Draconians? Draconian Sub Space Transmission? Alien Encyclopedia Abduction Proceedures Alien Abduction Protection Part 1 Alien Abduction Protection Part 2 Alien Abduction Protection Part 3 Alien Abduction Protection Part 4 THE CONTROLLERS: A New Hypothesis of Alien Abduction Alien Abductions in the Gingerbread House Aliens (EBEs) - A Compilation of the Reports of Visitors Alien Descriptions and UFO Topics Abductions and Demonic Possensions: Similarities An Alien Harvest Interview with Bob Lazar, Area 51, and more UFOs And Security Ronald Reagans Space Invaders Majestic 12 and Related Operations An Analysis of the GRUDGE 13 Report Government Secrecy Anti-Gravity Betty Hill Possible Biblical Accounts of an Alien Race Dead Men Tell No Tales Unmasking the Grand Deception Dreamland in the Rockies Secret Societies - New World Order A Lecture by William Cooper Secret Treaty. The U.S. Government and Extraterrestrial Entities John Lear Part 1 John Lear Part 2 John Lear Part 3 John Lear on Aliens A Letter from John Lear Disney UFOs Disney Alien Encounter Show Secret UFO Landings South African UFO Crash Area 51 Frequently Asked Questions AREA 51' Really Does Exist, But Still , Nobody's Talking Area-51 Frequencies Nellis AFB/Area-51/Dreamland Cruising the Extraterrestrial Highway E.T Could Phone Home From Here - AREA 51 A Trip to Groom Lake Return to Groom Lake Government Scientist Goes Public Rachel Nevada, Encounters of the Tourist Kind Government Releases Old Story Alien Visitors Restore Ghost Town's Spirits Desert Secrets UFO Fans Descend Upon ET Highway Inside The Shadow CIA Mystery contact may be Aurora List Of UFO Bodies Allegedly In The Possession Of The United States Gov NAPA Valley Communications Center The Aids / Polio Vacine Conspiracy Theory Government Cover Stories "lying by the book" Extra-Terrestrial Exposure Law The Grand Conspirator Close Encounter With Dr. J Allen Hynek Underground Hangers At Kelly AFB Chicago UFO Conference - Mars Probes Oprah's Interview With The Moon Five Mars Space Probe / Search For UFO? Underground Vault System At WPAFB Where Alien Artifacts Were Kept? Wright Patterson AFB: Whats Going On Out There? HAARP - Citizens project or Government Project? Introduction To The HAARP Conspiracy Alaskan Research Station Hosts Open House Militarizing The Ionosphere Cult Mind-Control AIDS As Biological Psychological Warfare Are UFOs Created By Humans? Evidence For Military Kidnappings Of Alleged UFO Abductees I know the Secret of the Flying Saucers Life's True Beginnings Life on other Planets Mind Control Slavery and the New World Order Scalar Electromagnetics and Weather Control UFO Sightings by Astronauts The Uni-Versal (Or Unified-Diversal)Reality Current Whereabouts of the USS Eldridge The Suppressed History of the Planet Earth Part 1 The Suppressed History of the Planet Earth Part 2 Alien Moon Base Apollo 11 UFO'S Apollo Program UFO Sighting From 1960's Comes to Light Antigravity - John.R.R.Searl Are There Crashed UFO's Army Experts Puzzled A Spanking for the Non Believers Aurora Files In Scotland Aurora Mach 8 Aurora New US Spy Plane Aurora ?? Belgian UFO Mysteries Box-Shaped UFO's Creature On Ilikley Moor Do UFO'S Exist Farmer's Tales Of Space Travel Mach 8 Aircraft Moon Sighting My Experience of UFOs Operation Majority Sighting At Air Show UK Sighting In Horncastle Space Aliens Helped Moses Part The Red Sea The Phobos II Incident Hostile Aliens Based On Mars The Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence (S E T I) U-Boat Out of Time UFO Predators Strike In Beef UFO Repair Manual UFOs A True Account U.S. F16 Shoots Down UFO Over Saudi Desert Warships Shot Down UFO votepicture.cgi?alienanomalies=general=2
[CTRL] Scalar Electromagnetics and Weather Control
-Caveat Lector-
{{In among the technical stuff is a theory that would
certainly explain out current weather phenomenon. I did not,
however, think this was possible. Bearden think so. After
speaking with him last Sun. I am attempting to bring myself
up-to-date on some of his ideas. This one is definitely
interesting. He also has the best collection at his website
of the radar anomalies we have been calling circles and which
he calls flashes. If this is true, we have lost the weather
war and unless we correct our basic concept in this regard,
will remain decades behind in this technology. I do not know
if this is possible but it certainly seems something is going
on with our weather.
~Amelia~}}
Scalar Electromagnetics and Weather Control
By Tom Bearden - Reformatted by Kidd 11/2000
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The following is one example of correspondence between Tom
Bearden and persons interested in some of the applications of
his Scalar Electromagnetics theories [note that Bearden is now
calling his system Energetics and refers to it as a subset of
Superpotential Theory, if I understand him right.]. Bearden
sent me several such correspondences as a general update on
where he's at nowadays (Spring/Summer 1998). As usual, he
cannot discuss exact methods or circuitry for devices to
accomplish these feats of magic-- only the general principles.
Can we glean enough from his writings to perhaps reach a
critical mass enabling us to perform a leap of logic or two,
and figure out how to build some of these devices?
Subj: Re: Anomalous weather worldwide
Date: 98-05-26 13:39:18 EDT
Dear (correspondent):
The anomalous weather worldwide is not accidental. In
superpotential theory, which was initiated by a paper by E.T.
Whittaker in 1904, it is possible to produce EM force fields
and force field energy at a distance. Whittaker 1904 showed
that all EM fields and waves can be decomposed into two scalar
potential functions. It follows that, by assembling two such
scalar potential functions in beams, one can produce a scalar
potential interferometer where the potential beams intersect
at a distance. In that interference zone, ordinary transverse
EM fields and energy appear.
A scalar potential is also just a harmonic assembly of
bidirectional longitudinal EM wavepairs, as shown in a paper
by E.T. Whittaker the year before, 1903. So one can produce
the necessary longitudinal waves, in arrays, to assemble a
scalar potential with any desired interior LW composition.
Thus by using longitudinal EM waves (LWs), one can produce
potentials, fields, and waves to order.
It turns out that a longitudinal EM wave, since it cannot vary
transversely a priori, cannot vary its 3-spatial energy
density. Instead, it must vary in the time domain. What
results is that one has created an oscillation of the
curvature of spacetime, when one makes a longitutinal EM wave.
Now one can engineer clusters of ST curvatures, by proper
assembly of LWs. This is a very powerful general relativity,
because the strong EM force is being used as the agent of ST
curvature. This particular EM GR does not appear in the
textbooks, but has been utilized by the Russian KGB in
clandestine weapon development since the 1950s.
Here's how the weather engineering is usually accomplished:
First, take two scalar potential beam transmitters, separated
on the necessary baseline to form a beam interferometer. Let
them interfere at a distance. Now in that distant interference
zone (IZ), there is an ambient vacuum potential (spacetime
potential, or spacetime stress). If the electrical circuit
grounds of the interferometer transmitters are biased ABOVE
the ambient potential in the IZ, then scattering EM energy
(heating) emerges in the IZ. This is the exothermic mode of
operation. If the electrical circuit grounds of the
interferometer are biased negatively below the ambient
potential in the IZ, then convergent EM energy (cooling)
emerges in the IZ. This is the endothermic mode of operation.
So by merely biasing the electrical grounds of a scalar
potential interferometer, one can produce heating or cooling
in the distant IZ. If one just radiates, one produces
distant steady heating or steady cooling. If one sharply
pulses the interferometer, one produces a distant hot
explosion or a distant cold explosion.
One can also, of course, form various forms of energy at a
distance, including particularly hemispheric shells of energy
and spherical shells of energy. Hundreds of these have been
observed worldwide, from testing by the KGB weapons in Russia.
There is one other characteristic that one needs to be aware
of. Pure longitudinal EM waves have infinite speed and
infinite velocity (see the summary papers by Rodrigues et al.
on the Los Alamos National Laboratory website). In practice
one makes a pseudo-longitudinal wave, so its energy is finite
and its speed is finite, but it may have a velocity. A
scalar
[CTRL] Col. Tom Bearden on Clearnance Sale at Redstone
-Caveat Lector- Dale, Of course I was completely gaa-gaa and would have loved to have whipped out a tape recorded and list of my most pressing 500 questions but thought better of it as I might want to ask him something else some day. I am also a bit intimidated by people of his caliber with knowledge in areas in which I am not very familiar. He is a true Southern gentleman, however, and has a sense of humor. Teased me about wanting real rockets from the supposed sale at the Arsenal for my 4th of July celebration and told me I would just have to tone it down a bit, etc. He is a very large, tall person with quite a presence. I hope that by being relatively brief (as compared to what I would have liked to have done) he will remember that if I ever feel a need to ask about the topics. Maybe I could ply him with Crawdad Gumbo for he is from LA. lake country. Gumbo for quantum physics. And I like to think that this is Cajun brain power! When I think of the energy crisis and the work he is doing currently, this is a very important person and I certainly wish him well in that work for we may all need it desperately and soon. ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: Dale Stonehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Col. Tom Bearden on Clearnance Sale at Redstone Arsen al -Caveat Lector- Col. Tom Bearden. As most of you know, he is the definitive theorist on magnetic/scalar energy and has a world reputation in many such areas. So, Sunday afternoon I had occasion to speak with him and discuss the matter at length. Boy, Amelia, what I wouldn't give to sit down with the brilliant Col. Bearden as you did. His work is our best hope of breaking the oil monopoly finally. He pointed out the 5,000 families there replete with children of their own who are in charge of this storage and the foolishness of assuming they would allow such conditions to exist. What would be their motive for exposing their families to such contamination? This is precisely my problem with too many conspiracy researchers. According to them, people are so evil they completely disregard the well-being of their own flesh and blood, their children and grandchildren. I've never met anyone like that and I question that such a human being exists. I find Col. Tom Bearden to be much more believable in this regard than AlMartinRaw. Of course he is more believable because he acknowledges there are two sides to every story. Anyone who gives only one side (the negative) is probably being paid by an opposite side. I do not understand why, with the energy shortage facing this country, more is not being done in this area. But then that is yet another conspiracy. It seems until every penny of profit is extracted from the American people nothing will be done. As Kristofferson wrote, freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
