date:20030130

When Bush is talking about a hydrogen economy,
remember that he's really referring to Orion-engine cars...

At 06:38 PM 01/29/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote:

It's why I'll be safer when I run into Harmon on the freeways.
His heirs will appreciate his savings in gasoline for the time he owned 
his Lupo.

Nahh - You can carpool.  Just put his Lupo in the back of your SUV;
the two of you should be able to lift it, and it shouldn't
slow down the SUV that much.

Some of the electric vehicles look like they'd be safe enough to drive,
but some just don't, and if I'm going to be stuck with something
that only goes 30mph, I'd rather have an electric bike.
Another discussion was Hard on the highway? It goes 80 mph.
There was that VW RetroBeetle commercial about 0-60mph?  Yes,
and I'd expect Lupo's acceleration is probably slower.
Top Speed is certainly important, but acceleration is an important
part of avoiding problems.

(My full-size Chevy van gets about 16mpg, in the 6 cylinder model,
which is a lot better than the previous one, which got
8 mpg when all 8 cylinders were working, 7 mpg when only 7 were5 with 5.
More annoyingly, my Chrysler PT Cruiser only gets about 22mpg,
and it's the older model without the turbot.   It's a bit heavier
than my 1985 Toyota wagon that got 27mpg, but you'd think that
Detroit would have done some engine efficiency development in 15 years.)

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

At 07:52 PM 01/29/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 06:33  PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:


On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Jamie Lawrence wrote:

One of the problems I think is rampant with, for instance, getting
alternate fuel sources off the ground is that government subsidies are
ensuring they don't happen by distorting the market for fossil fuels.


Remember the Synfuel boondoggles under Jimmy Carter?
Cracking otherwise-uneconomical oil shale might have been
a useful technology if the price of oil were $50-100/barrel.
(Meanwhile, we can feel nice and liberal about leaving all this
wonderful supply of irreplaceable industrial hydrocarbons for future 
generations.)

The subsidies for corn ethanol are indicative of the problem with 
interfering in markets:
-- someone decided corn good, oil bad!
-- those with a lot of corn, like Archer Daniels,
sent in their lobbyists to push for this point of view

Bob Dole, Senator from ADM, Republican protector of free markets.
One reason for corn ethanol instead of sugar ethanol is that that
the US prices for sugar are artificially kept high with import tariffs
(and of course with the Cuba embargo), which is also why soda is
mostly made from corn syrup instead of sugar.


As for Iraq, letting them keep Kuwait in 1990-91 almost certainly
would have driven the price of oil _DOWN_.  A nation like Iraq is
more interested in pumping than in hoarding,


The US Strategic Petroleum Reserve made some seriously incompetent moves
with its timing of buying and selling oil around Desert Scam,
at least if their goals were related to moderating price swings,
making oil available to US industry, or to managing their costs.
When the market was really tight and prices were rising, they bought heavily,
paying a lot more than they should have and making oil scarcer in the US,
and when the war was largely decided and oil prices were dropping
because there was no major need for hoarding, they started dumping their oil,
depressing prices further.


And don't decide that cornohol (sounds like cornhole,doesn't it?)
or biodiesel or miracle weed is something that markets ought to be
distorted in favor ofelse we'll get the kind of market distortions
cited above, and a non-optimum solution.


Well, the indirect market manipulation policies are definitely skewed
in favor of Miracle Weed from high-tech California growers instead of
ditchweed from Kansas or Mexico.

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

At 03:13 PM 01/29/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:24  PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote:

Nonsense. What political science do you think was stopping Ford or
Honda or Volvo or GM from introducing a hydrogen fuel cell car by 1980?


What I meant is lack of lots of fat federal grants for research on fuel
reformers, hydrogen separation, proton membranes, alternative catalysts,
and the like. The fund allocation (or, rather, lack thereof) was sure
politically motivated.


Well, in your country (Germany, IIRC), perhaps such funding is permissable.


I haven't seen radical energy-efficiency products coming out of
German or French or British engineering companies either,
in spite of the funding possibilities available under Socialism.

(There have been some good wind-power things done in Scandinavia,
but their car companies seem to go for durable-and-safe or
sports-cars-instead-of-simple-sub-Volkswagens, and I suppose
they've done lots of things with building insulation or whatever,
but that's simple necessity up there...  Similarly, there's been
some good solar-energy work done in Israel, where it's warm and sunny
and surrounded by Arabs who may not always sell you oil.)

We've gotten much more efficiency gain out of the Japanese car companies.
I'm not sure how much of that benefited from government research funding
(their computer industry didn't accomplish much with it),
but a lot of it was from lighter-weight lower-cost cars,
which are not only a good match in crowded, poor cities,
just as Volkswagens were efficient, but it also benefited significantly
from less restrictive laws on car designs - the US has a huge amount
of regulation on car design ostensibly in the name of traffic safety
or consumer protection.


In the U.S., it really is not. Constitutionally, that is.
The government exists to do certain things, not to pick technology winners.


Not that that's bothered them much :-)

PLEASE RESPOND.

2003-01-30 Thread DR. AUSTIN MAKEBA

 Dr. Austin Makeba
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIALURGENT.

Dear Sir,
I am Dr. Austin Makeba, a native of Cape Town in South Africa and I am an
Executive Accountant with the South Africa Department of Mining  Natural
Resources. First and foremost, I apologized using this medium to reach you
for a transaction/business of this magnitude, but this is due to
Confidentiality and prompt access reposed on this medium. Be informed that
a member of the South Africa Export Promotion Council (SEPC) who was at
the Government delegation to your country during a trade exhibition gave
your enviable credentials/particulars to me. I have decided to seek a
confidential co-operation with you in the execution of the deal described
Here under for the benefit of all parties and hope you will keep it as a
top secret because of the nature of this transaction.

Within the Department of Mining  Natural Resources where I work as an
Executive Accountant and with the cooperation of four other top officials,
we have in our possession as overdue payment bills totaling Twenty - Six
Million, Five Hundred Thousand U. S. Dollars ($26,500,000.) which we
want to transfer abroad with the assistance and cooperation of a foreign
company/individual to receive the said fund on our behalf or a reliable
foreign non-company account to receive such funds. More so, we are
handicapped in the circumstances, as the South Africa Civil Service Code
of Conduct does not allow us to operate offshore account hence your
importance in the whole transaction.

This amount $26.5m represents the balance of the total contract value
executed on behalf of my Department by a foreign contracting firm, which
we the officials over-invoiced deliberately. Though the actual contract
cost have been paid to the original contractor, leaving the balance in the
tune of the said amount which we have in principles gotten approval to
remit by Telegraphic Transfer (T.T) to any foreign bank account you will
provide by filing in an application through the Justice Ministry here in
South Africa for the transfer of rights and privileges of the former
contractor to you.

I have the authority of my partners involved to propose that should you be
willing to assist us in the transaction, your share of the sum will be 25%
of the $26,.5 million, 70% for us and 5% for taxation and miscellaneous
expenses. The business itself is 100% safe, on your part provided you
treat it with utmost secrecy and confidentiality. Also your area of
specialization is not a hindrance to the successful execution of this
transaction. I have reposed my confidence in you and hope that you will
not disappoint me. Endeavor to contact me immediately through my above

e-mail address, whether or not you are interested in this deal. If you
are not, it will enable me scout for another foreign partner to carry out
this deal I want to assure you that my partners and myself are in a
position to make the payment of this claim possible provided you can give
us a very strong Assurance and guarantee that our share will be secured and
please remember to treat this matter as very confidential matter, because
we will not comprehend with any form of exposure as we are still in active
Government Service and remember once again that time is of the essence in
this business.
I wait in anticipation of your fullest co-operation.

Yours faithfully,

Dr. Austin Makeba.

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Eugen Leitl

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Declan McCullagh wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:08:08PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
  Really, Eugene, you need to think deeply about this issue. Ask your lab 
  associate, A. G., about why learning and success/failure is so 
  important for so many industries. Read some Hayek, some von Mises, some 
  Milton Friedman. And even some David Friedman.

I'm not arguing pro strong state. I'm merely saying that the tax funded
ivory tower RD is complementary in scope to privately funded research. If
95% of it is wasted (and lacking libertarian drive in Euland it's bound to
stay that way for quite a while), it's still nice to see a percent or two
to go into bluesky research.

For instance, which industry would fund simulating biology in machina,
using approaches such as eCell and Virtual Cell? In absence of state
funding this would be limited to mecenate, which is both limited and
fickle.

Consider large semiconductor houses like Infineon: the hardware markets 
are chronically so tight that almost no research in molecular circuitry 
(though 2d crystals of photopolymerizable Langmuir-Blodgett films would 
result in viable hybrid molecular memories in less than a decade) is being 
done. Small players are doing better there, but will their funds suffice 
for them to survive until their first product? It appears doubtful.
 
 I'm with Tim on this (though I've always found Eugene to be one of
 the most interesting and valuable contributors to discussions here). 

Thank you. I like your politech list a lot as well.
 
 The only thing I'd add is that many folks in the technology community
 or computer industry who are otherwise libertarian have a bit of a blind
 spot when it comes to government funding of basic research: they like it.

It's not my field, but I don't think we have a lot of evidence either way 
which approach is better.
 
 More than that, in fact, they'll argue that it's necessary. I suspect
 much of this comes from the reward structure of grad programs in CS (and
 I presume other disciplines), where you win if you get DARPA etc. grants.
 The government is seen as a benign force at worst, a boon at best.
 By now, everyone's used to it and find its difficult to imagine life
 without the tax largesse.
 
 Also, professional associations like ACM and IEEE argue for more
 tax handouts...

Re: US health care,a winner for Hillary in 04?

2003-01-30 Thread Sten Thaning

Quoting James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Other countries (notably Sweden, to which the
  USA is always being compared) don't count a child as born until it
  has reached a certain age (three weeks in Sweden). Guess when most
  infant deaths occur?
 
 Interesting datum.  Could you give a source for this.  If true, needs 
 wide publicity, since we web search for infant mortality and Sweden 
 gives a zillion hits, all saying what you would expect.

I would also like to see a source for the claim, as this is something I've 
never heard before.

According to SCB, the Swedish official department of statistics, the definition 
of infant mortality is all deaths which occur before the child is one year 
old. 
I couldn't find that definition in English on the department's web page, 
though. The Swedish definition is in 
http://www.scb.se/statinfo/1999/Be0101.asp
(under the term spädbarnsdödlighet)

I did find an English translation of the definition of a live birth, though.
http://www.scb.se/publkat/filer/be79sa0201%5F01.pdf
Section 3, Definitions and concepts

  A live birth refers to a newborn who after the birth has breathed or showed 
any other evidence of life such as active hearthbeat, pulsation in the 
umbilical cord or definite movement of volontary muscles. The definition is 
valid regardess of the duration of pregnancy and the maturity of the child.
   A stillbirth is a newborn who has died before or during delivery and after 
teh end of the 28th gestational week calculated from the first day of the 
latest normal menstruation. If there is uncertainty regarding gestational age, 
the length of the foetus is an important factor in the assessment. If the 
length of foetus is at least 35 centimeters, it will generally be counted as a 
child.

It would seem as we indeed count the child as born directly from, well, birth...

 - Sten

Was: (US health care...). Now: Child mortality in Sweden.

2003-01-30 Thread Gabriel Rocha

| PS - the infant mortality statistics are bogus; they are a
| record-keeping artefact. Other countries (notably Sweden, to which the
| USA is always being compared) don't count a child as born until it has
| reached a certain age (three weeks in Sweden). Guess when most infant
| deaths occur?

Well, I got curious about the statement above so I went and checked.
Well, I proxy-checked. A co-worker is a swede and I asked him to write
and ask them what they had to say. At least as far as www.scb.se
(Sweden's central office of statistics (the title loses a bit in the
translation, but it is an oficial .gov body that does, well,
statistics)) is concerned, infant deaths start counting as soon as the
baby is born. Below is the exchange from my colleague and the person at
the scb listed as a contact person on the website. (note that the
website is also available in english...) --Gabe

PS-The swedish characters get mangled by my mail client. If anyone
actually reades swedish and would like to see a html version of the
message (the only thing I altered was the email of my co-worker) I will
gladly post the message on a website somewhere. 


-Original Message-
From: *Befolkningsstatistik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:59 AM
To: ola nordbeck
Subject: SV: Sp=E4dbarnsd=F6dlighet

hej!

sp=E4dbarnsd=F6dlighet =3D antalet barn som d=F6r under f=F6rsta =
levnads=E5ret. 2001
var sp=E4dbarnsd=F6dligheten i Sverige 3,4 per 1000 levande f=F6dda. Det =
finns
en tabell i publikationen Befolkningsstatistik del 4, tab 4.12,
Sp=E4dbarnsd=F6dligheten p=E5 1000 levanade f=F6dda 1951-2001 d=E4r =
man indelar
d=F6dligheten Under f=F6rsta levnadsdygnet, f=F6rsta levnadsveckan, =
f=F6rsta
levnadsm=E5naden etc, men sp=E4dbarnd=F6dlighet g=E4ller generellt =
under
f=F6rsta levnads=E5ret.=20

V=E4nliga H=E4lsningar/Yours Sincerely,=20
Margareta Larsson=20
Befolkningsstatistiken/Population Statistics=20
Phone: +46 19 176594=20
fax: +46 19 176942=20
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Fr=E5n: ola nordbeck 
Skickat: den 30 januari 2003 10:35
Till: *Befolkningsstatistik
=C4mne: Sp=E4dbarnsd=F6dlighet

Vanligen,

Enligt en kollega sa skulle scb m=E4ta Sp=E4dbarnsd=F6dlighet forst =
efter 3
veckan efter fodseln. Enligt er definition sa skulle =
Sp=E4dbarnsd=F6dlighet
avse samtliga d=F6dsfall som intr=E4ffar f=F6re ett =E5rs =E5lder. Ar =
detta
samtliga dodsfall eller ar min kollegas uppgifter riktiga.

Mvh,

Ola nordbeck

Re: FW: Spädbarnsdödlighet Much more readable (Child mortality rate)

2003-01-30 Thread 'Gabriel Rocha'

Sorry, here is a much more readable version of the email exchange.

On Thu, Jan 30, at 11:01AM, Ola Nordbeck wrote:
| -Original Message-
| From: *Befolkningsstatistik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:59 AM
| To: ola nordbeck
| Subject: SV: Spddbarnsdvdlighet
| 
| hej!
| 
| spddbarnsdvdlighet = antalet barn som dvr under fvrsta levnadseret. 2001
| var spddbarnsdvdligheten i Sverige 3,4 per 1000 levande fvdda. Det finns
| en tabell i publikationen Befolkningsstatistik del 4, tab 4.12,
| Spddbarnsdvdligheten pe 1000 levanade fvdda 1951-2001 ddr man indelar
| dvdligheten Under fvrsta levnadsdygnet, fvrsta levnadsveckan, fvrsta
| levnadsmenaden etc, men spddbarndvdlighet gdller generellt under
| fvrsta levnadseret. 
|  
| Vdnliga Hdlsningar/Yours Sincerely, 
| Margareta Larsson 
| Befolkningsstatistiken/Population Statistics 
| Phone: +46 19 176594 
| fax: +46 19 176942 
| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| 
| 
| -Ursprungligt meddelande-
| Fren: ola nordbeck 
| Skickat: den 30 januari 2003 10:35
| Till: *Befolkningsstatistik
| Dmne: Spddbarnsdvdlighet
| 
| Vanligen,
| 
| Enligt en kollega sa skulle scb mdta Spddbarnsdvdlighet forst efter 3
| veckan efter fodseln. Enligt er definition sa skulle Spddbarnsdvdlighet
| avse samtliga dvdsfall som intrdffar fvre ett ers elder. Ar detta
| samtliga dodsfall eller ar min kollegas uppgifter riktiga.
| 
| Mvh,
| 
| Ola nordbeck

DPR(JOINT VENTURE)

2003-01-30 Thread MR JON WAKAKA


DEPARTMENT OF PETROLEUM RESOURCES 
PLOT 225 KOFO ABAYOMI STREET VICTORIA ISLAND,LAGOS, NIGERIA.
DIRECT FAX: 234 1 7590904. TEL; 234 -1-7763126

ATTENTION : OWNER/C.E.O

RE: URGENT  CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL

Dear Sir,

I am MR JON WAKAKA (MON).Member Contract Award and Verification Committee
of the above stated Department

Terms of Reference

My term of reference involves the award of contracts to Foreign
Multinational Companies and Corporations.

My office is saddled with the responsibility of contract award,
screening, categorization and prioritization of projects embarked
upon by Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR) as well as
feasibility studies for selected projects and supervising the project
consultants involved. A breakdown of the fiscal expenditure by this
office as at the end of last fiscal quarter of 2000 indicates that
DPR paid out a whooping sum of US$736M(Seven Hundred And Thirty Six
Million, United States Dollars) to successful Foreign contract
beneficiaries. The DPR is now compiling beneficiaries to be paid for
the first Quarter of the2003 fiscal year.

The crux of this letter is that the finance/contract department of
the DPR deliberately over invoiced the contract value of the various
contracts awarded. In the course of disbursements, this department
has been able to accumulate the sum of US$38.2M(Thirty-eight Million,
two hundred Thousand U.S Dollars) as the over-invoiced sum. This
money is currently in a suspense account of the DPR account with the
Debt Reconciliation Committee (DRC). We now seek to process the
transfer of this fund officially as contract payment to you as a
foreign contractor, who will be fronting for us as the beneficiary of
the fund. In this way we can facilitate these funds into your
nominated account for possible investment abroad. We are not allowed
as a matter of government policy to operate any foreign account to
transfer this fund into.

However, for your involvement in assisting us with this transfer into
your nominated account we have evolved a sharing formula as follows:
(1) 20% for you as the foreign partner
(2) 75% for I and my colleagues
(3) 5% will be set aside to defray all incidental expenses both
Locally and Internationally during the course of this transaction.

We shall be relying on your advice as regard investment of our share
in any business in your country. Be informed that this business is
genuine and 100% safe considering the high-power government officials
involved. Send your private fax/telephone numbers. Upon your response
we shall provide you with further information on the procedures.
All enquiries should be directed to the undersigned by FAX and,E-MAIL
.
Trusting in a good and long lasting business relationship with you.

Sincerely,
MR JON WAKAKA (MON)

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Bonfire Crypto.

MagiQ projects its Navajo to work over distances of 18 to 25 miles between 
sender and recipient. FROM...
Briefing: Digital Defenses
Cryptography
A quantum leap over short distances.
By Martin LaMonica
January 13, 2003

Scientists have long tantalized the computer industry with the unbridled 
potential of a computer based on quantum theory. But while such a machine 
is still theoretical, the quantum bit, or qubit, is ready to leave the labs 
to become an uncrackable security data cordon.
MagiQ Technologies, based in Somerville, Massachusetts, is one of a handful 
of companies seeking to commercialize quantum cryptography, the technique 
of securing data transmission by putting decades-old quantum theory into 
practice. Rather than send cryptographic keys that unlock scrambled 
messages in packets of data, quantum cryptographic systems distribute keys 
through a stream of polarized photons, or packets of light, over 
fiber-optic cables. The sender represents a binary number with each 
photon's polarization, or physical orientation, and the receiver uses a 
filter to read the number. What makes the technology especially attractive 
is that any attempt by a third party to view the transmission of the 
quantum key will inevitably disturb it and leave a trace.

MagiQ founder Robert Gelfond, a former Wall Street trader, saw an 
extraordinary business opportunity when he investigated quantum 
information processing in the late '90s. He discovered that no company was 
trying to capitalize on the quantum cryptography research being conducted 
at university, government, and corporate research labs.

I thought this is a little early, but not 10 or 15 years early, says Mr. 
Gelfond. After recruiting a group of fellow angel investors in 1999, 
including Jeff Bezos, Mr. Gelfond hired as chief scientist quantum 
computing expert Hoi-Kwong Lo and founded the company with a total of $6.9 
million in funding. The company built a prototype quantum key distribution 
(QKD) system and started plans to commercialize it, despite the 
technological shortcomings involved in sending the quantum signals across 
long distances.

MagiQ's QKD device, code-named Navajo, is on track for beta release early 
this year, with completion expected by the end of 2003. The company is 
aiming the product, which will cost roughly $100,000 to secure a corporate 
data center, at government intelligence agencies and business customers 
with highly sensitive data stored in mainstream computing environments.

What's to motivate government agencies and businesses to embrace quantum 
cryptography, especially in these lean spending times? MagiQ officials like 
to emphasize research that suggests encryption algorithms, and even 
1,024-bit keys, won't be safe forever given the rapid growth of processing 
performance to crack these large encryption keys. What's more, academics 
maintain that a quantum computer, or a breakthrough mathematical theorem, 
could easily crack today's encryption schemes.

Even with an iron-clad guarantee of safe key distribution, however, quantum 
cryptography has serious limitations, a very notable one being distance. 
MagiQ projects its Navajo to work over distances of 18 to 25 miles between 
sender and recipient. Early last year, Id Quantique, a spin-off of the 
University of Geneva that has developed its own quantum cryptography 
products, demonstrated key distribution over distances of about 40 miles. 
Repeaters are still in development but most are impractical and have the 
potential to compromise security.

Installing secure facilities to repeat a signal every 30 miles is a 
nonstarter in the commercial world, says Laura Koetzle, a security analyst 
at Forrester Research. But for a short distance, like from the White House 
to the Pentagon or from the White House to Langley, Virginia, it would work 
right now.

BBN Technologies, based in Cambridge, not far from Somerville, is trying to 
make quantum cryptography as versatile as the Internet itself, which works 
across copper, fiber, and satellite networks. The company has a prototype 
system that can repeat photon signals in trusted relay points beyond the 
40-mile limit of competing technology. More ambitious is a quantum network 
switch under development that would ensure that the network owner didn't 
tamper with the keys. BBN is looking to test its network QKD system in the 
metropolitan Boston fiber network when work on the switch is completed in 
about a year and a half, says Chip Elliott, principal engineer at BBN.

Most people don't understand that this stuff is real now, not five years 
from now, says Mr. Elliott. It requires serious engineering, but not a 
miracle.

The next phase of MagiQ's product development calls for quantum 
cryptography components that would let telecom carriers offer extremely 
secure virtual private networks over their fiber cables. Eventually, MagiQ 
executives see quantum cryptography on desktop computers.

Martin LaMonica is a

Great Firewalls.


Check Point Software Expands Presence In ChinaLeading Internet Security 
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Technologies Ltd. (Nasdaq: CHKP), the worldwide leader in securing the 
Internet, today announced it has opened a new office in Beijing to provide 
local marketing, sales and technical support for the growing base of 
channel partners and customers in China. The new office adds to Check 
Point's direct presence in Asia Pacific, where the company has already 
established subsidiaries in Singapore, Australia and Japan. A secure 
communications infrastructure is essential as Chinese companies lay the 
groundwork for global eBusiness. Check Point Software solutions incorporate 
all of the critical elements for a secure Internet environment, said Limor 
Bakal, vice president for international sales and marketing at Check Point 
Software Technologies Ltd. China is a very important market for Check 
Point. Our new office in Beijing strengthens Check Point's ability to 
deliver the industry's leading VPN, firewall and network security solutions 
to the quickly growing Chinese market.

http://www.checkpoint.com/press/2001/china080201.html

Georgetown Proffr.The Clipper Witch.

Dorothy Denning has never been shy of sounding off about society's use of 
technology. This widely quoted Georgetown University professor of computer 
science was once dubbed the Clipper Chick because of her vocal support of 
the controversial Clipper encryption proposal. That policy measure, which 
was ultimately scuttled, would have allowed the U.S. government access to 
keys that could decipher any message encoded by the system.

Despite her unpopular stance on encryption, Denning's dedication to 
security nonetheless earned her respect, even from her opponents. Today, 
she is considered an expert in encryption, hacktivism and emerging trends 
in cyberterrorism.




Do you think we are headed in the right direction to protect the Internet?
I generally think we are headed in the right direction. I would not myself 
want to see a heavier hand placed on it. Generally, there is a business 
case for implementing a certain level of security for risk management, and 
companies are taking reasonable precautions to protect their systems. 
That's what we want. I don't think we want a heavier hand demanding that 
more resources be put on it than are perhaps justified by the risk.


A lot of computer users are leaving themselves open to attacks because they 
have unsecured machines. How reasonable is it to believe users will be able 
to defend themselves and not become a liability to national security?
What we have to hope is that over time, products that ship from Microsoft 
and others offer a sufficiently high level of security and a simple means 
for keeping it in that state. It's got to be much simpler for people to 
deal with than it is right now.

What's the future for Internet security?
We don't have 100 percent physical security right now, which is why we had 
snipers running around Washington knocking people off. What we have to come 
to recognize is that cyberspace will be the same way. We need to learn to 
manage that risk and not fool ourselves into thinking we can eliminate it.

Do you think the onus of liability should be put on the ISPs (Internet 
service providers) to take care of security for their users?
That's a hard question, because once you start formalizing where we are 
going to put liability, the question starts coming up of who's going to pay 
for it. Almost anywhere you put it, the costs are going to end up coming 
back to the users of the technology.

If the ISPs are liable, they are going to have to get insurance to cover 
that liability, and they are going to have to increase their rates, and so 
the users are going to pay more for that service.

It's a similar kind of thing if you push the liability back onto the 
vendors. Microsoft is going to have to insure their products, and that will 
make the products a lot more costly. The liability issues are difficult 
ones that are perhaps best worked out first in the courts rather than 
trying to legislate it some way.

Do you think we will need the equivalent of a driver's license for people 
who put Web servers on the Internet?
I think it is a difficult question. Driving is a life-and-death matter. 
When you get on the road, it is not only important that you are competent 
to drive, but that other people on the road are competent to drive. And 
because of that life-and-death matter, we can all agree to driver's licenses.

On the Internet, it is still not a life-or-death thing. It is not clear 
what requirements you want to demand of people who are providing services 
on the Internet.

To some extent, if an ISP is not offering a sufficient level of security, 
it is not going to stay in business very long. It is going to get shut 
down, it is going to be hacked, and it is not going to be able to sustain 
its business. And that may be a sufficient way of dealing with it.

How do you stand on the whole idea of cyberterrorism?
I wouldn't call any of it cyberterrorism, and I don't see any of that 
happening in the very near term. We are having a lot of cyberattacks, and 
they are indeed costly and serious, but they are not terrorist attacks.

What kinds of attacks are considered terrorism?
(Their intent) would have to (be to) cause serious injury or harm to 
people, (most often) with physical consequences, but at least (with) very 
severe economic consequences. And it would have to be done for the purposes 
that terrorist acts are conducted for. This is generally political and not 
for the purpose of robbing a bank--that's not terrorism. Extortion is 
generally not terrorism; someone is trying to make money off of you.

Do you think recent anti-terrorism laws, such as the USA Patriot Act, are 
too broad?
I think that intent has to be taken into account when we paint things as 
terrorism, like we do with other kinds of acts. The snipers' actions in 
Washington don't fit the usual definitions of terrorism in that they 
weren't politically motivated. However, they certainly did terrorize people 
in this area.

The concern that the Washington

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:14:56PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote:

(snip)
 Tyler said: 
  and the buying up (and
  subsequent dismantling) of lite rail systems in the LA basin
  in the 30s and 40s apparently had a major impact on the
  rollout of vehicles Might we have seen much better public
  transportation in that area if this capitalist coup-d'etat
  hadn't occurred?
 
 Public transport received, and continues to receive enormous
 subsidies.

   Actually that's not true, or at least, the subsidy to public transport pales
compared to the subsidy to private transport. Witness the recent billions paid
to the airlines, about 20-30 times (in one year, mind you) than rail got in the
last 20-30 years. Public highways for truckers is even more obscene. It's quite
clear that trucks benefit the most, and do far the most damage to roads, so let
them pay the entire cost of highway repair and construction. I'd suggest
toll-roads, but that has the serious side effect of aiding surveillance and
inhibiting free travel of individuals. 


-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com

Drooling Retards Review.

Please circle your calendars for these international events
on transforming the mental health system, to be held
in San Francisco in mid-May:
* Saturday, May 17, 2003 -- FREEDOM FAIR on winning human
rights and alternatives in the mental health system.
* Sunday, May 18, 2003 -- FREEDOM RALLY protesting
the American Psychiatric Association Annual meeting.
For updates as they arrive see http://www.MindFreedom.org.
Right now on that site, you'll find information on:
* A Bay Area free planning meeting *this* Sunday,
February 2, 2003 (I'm flying in for it, hope you can make it!).
* How to get on the M18 planning e-mail list.

THIS FREEDOM RALLY WILL BE A NONVIOLENT PROTEST TO:
...STOP THE RISE OF FORCED PSYCHIATRY...
...CHALLENGE GLOBALIZATION OF PSYCHIATRIC INDUSTRY HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS...
... SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE TAKE-OVER OF THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM BY THE 
PSYCHIATRIC DRUG INDUSTRY...
...END BUSH ADMINISTRATION ATTACKS ON CIVIL USING THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM...
...WIN SELF-DETERMINATION AND EMPOWERMENT!
CO-SPONSORS SO FAR:
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Mental Health Consumer Concerns
~~~
Please spread the word, thanks!
- David
--
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MindFreedom Support Coalition International
454 Willamette, Suite 216 - POB 11284
Eugene, OR 97440-3484 USA
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: (541) 345-3737
phone: (541) 345-9106 toll free in USA: 1-877-MAD-PRIDE
The mind is a terrible thing to label, forcibly drug  electroshock.
JOIN Support Coalition International and get the
winter 2003 issue of MindFreedom Journal!
http://www.mindfreedom.org

Mongo Economics.

Austrian Economics.
http://world.std.com/~mhuben/austrian.html
Criticisms of Neoliberalism, Capitalism, and Free Markets.
Libertarians are unabashed promoters of capitalism and free markets, and 
generally can see no wrong with them, either historically, philosophically, 
or economically. The rest of the world can though.
Libertarian Economic Experiments.
Chile and New Zealand are often cited by libertarians as sites of 
successful libertarian economic reform. They tend to cite a few benefits, 
but there are many downsides
http://world.std.com/~mhuben/libindex.html
Left-Libertarian and Anarchist Criticism.
http://world.std.com/~mhuben/leftlib.html

Conservative as Mongo.

The Libertarian As Conservative.
By Bob Black. An unusual approach, viewing families, work, schools, and 
churches as being as coercive as government.
http://ri.xu.org/arbalest/alembic2c.html

Bob Black
The Abolition of Work Anarchism and Other Impediments to Anarchy Book 
Filled with Lies Preface to the Right to Be Greedy Primitive Affluence The 
Realization and Suppression of Situationism Smokestack Lightning 
Technophilia, An Infantile Disorder
Withered Anarchism
http://www.primitivism.com/author-index.htm
A good antidote for creeping Mongoism.

The President accused Saddam Hussein of being an evil threat to the American people. Then he said the same thing about Kangaroo Jack.

JOHANNESBURG -- Former South African President Nelson Mandela lashed out at 
U.S. President George Bush's stance on Iraq on Thursday, saying the Texan 
had no foresight and could not think properly.

Mandela, a towering statesman respected the world over for his fight 
against Apartheid-era discrimination, said the U.S. leader and British 
Prime Minister Tony Blair were undermining the United Nations, and 
suggested they would not be doing so if the organization had a white leader.

It is a tragedy what is happening, what Bush is doing in Iraq, Mandela 
told an audience in Johannesburg.

What I am condemning is that one power, with a president who has no 
foresight, who cannot think properly, is now wanting to plunge the world 
into a holocaust, he added, to loud applause.

Both Bush as well as Tony Blair are undermining an idea (the United 
Nations) which was sponsored by their predecessors, Mandela said. Is this 
because the secretary general of the United Nations (Ghanaian Kofi Annan) 
is now a black man? They never did that when secretary generals were white.

Mandela said he would support without reservation any action agreed upon by 
the United Nations against Iraq. Mandela however said action without U.N. 
support was unacceptable and set a bad precedent for world politics.

Are they saying this is a lesson that you should follow, or are they 
saying we are special, what we do should not be done by anyone, he said in 
his speech to the International Women's Forum on the theme of Courageous 
Leadership for Global Transformation.

Nobel Peace Laureate Mandela, 84, has spoken out many times against Bush's 
stance.

He also attacked the United States's record on human rights, criticizing 
the dropping of atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and 
Nagaski in World War II.

Because they decided to kill innocent people in Japan, who are still 
suffering from that, who are they now to pretend that they are the 
policeman of the world?... he asked.

lf there is a country which has committed unspeakable atrocities, it is 
the United States of America...They don't care for human beings.

But he said he was happy that people, especially those in the United 
States, were opposing military action in Iraq.

I hope that that opposition will one day make him understand that he has 
made the greatest mistake of his life, Mandela said.

e
www.utopia2000.org

20 million dead cops.

EL PASO, Texas (AP) - A protest by about 1,000 high school students over a 
change in class schedules turned into a rock- and bottle-throwing melee 
Wednesday. About 10 people were arrested and nearly 30 injured. Students at 
Montwood High School walked out of school in protest in the morning and 
refused to return.
``Students began attacking security personnel with rocks and glass 
bottles,'' police spokesman Javier Sambrano said.
Police used tear gas to control the crowd and about 20 students who were 
exposed were treated at the scene, Sambrano said. Seven police officers 
were treated for cuts and bruises.
About 10 people were arrested, including at least one adult, Sambrano said. 
The school was closed and students sent home.
The students were protesting a switch to block scheduling, which means 
longer classes, said spokeswoman Minerva Baumann.
01/29/03 18:01
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1110idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20030129%2F180146620.htmsc=1110

Hoosier uprising.

Indianapolis, Indiana
January 23, Offices of the Coast Guard and Army Recruitment were trashed. 
The walls were spray-painted with Fuck Your War and close to ten large 
office windows were broken. Two government vehicles were spray-painted and 
the windows broken.
The political, military, and economic rulers of the US continue a war on 
terrorism which is nothing more or less than the capitalist war against 
the poor and working people of the world.Oil companies and weapon 
manufacturers capitalize on more starving and dead Iraqi people just as 
they have in Afghanistan, Columbia, Phillipines, and many other parts of 
the word where disaffected people are resisting the brutal capitalist regime.
We will not ask or beg the politicians and generals in Washington, D.C. for 
justice and peace.We know the peace and justice of capitalism and state 
power is based upon the misery and death of many.We fight the march to war 
as we fight a world run against us.
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=03/01/29/8474739

Re: [DIGRESSION] RE: the news from bush's speech...H-power

Tim May wrote...

Then there's safety, and personal injury insurance rates. If my 3500-pound 
S-Class hits a Prius, the laws of physics dictate what happens. And if I hit 
a golf cart, er, a Honda Lupo, I'd better yell Fore!

That's what it came down to for me. In the 80s I swore I'd never buy some 
yuppie status symbol like a Mercedes, but after the Russians moved into my 
neighborhood (and I saw how they drive), I bought a gas-guzzling Mercedes 
SUV when my son was born. I mourned the loss of the environment and felt a 
little guilty, but in the end it came down to something far more basic than 
philosphy or whatever. (I might still be convincable that I did something 
bad,  but I don't really give a crap.)

Indeed, after I squashed a family of four riding in a Honda, I stepped down 
from my Mercedes and noticed a tiny spatter of blood on my bumper: You 
fucked up my Mercedes! Is what I told them as their last few moments of 
life ebbed away

-TD








From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [DIGRESSION] RE: the news from bush's speech...H-power
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:38:11 -0800

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 04:23  PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:


On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 03:36:20PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:


   Although canola oil is a much better source for fuel. And diesels a 
much
better IC engine for hybrids. Even in non-hybrids, VW builds some pretty 
nice
diesel cars, including the Lupo, on the market for a couple years now, 
which
gets 80mpg. And the prototype that VW's CEO drives around in that gets 
280mpg.

From
http://www.used-volkswagen-cars.co.uk/volkswagenlupo.htm:

As befits a small car, the cheapest models come with a 1.0-litre engine
that is decent enough, though finds it hard going on the motorway.



   Hard going on the motorway? It cruises at 80mph. And as much as I love 
riding
bicycles, even in Winter, the Lupo certainly has a lot more practical uses 
than
a bike. Even neater is their new one tho --
http://www.vwvortex.com/news/index_1L.html

  It too will do 75mph -- fast enough for the likes of me. At 239mpg. 
What's
that saying about muscle cars? Something about the size of their motors is 
an
inverse ratio to the size of their dicks?


It's an old and silly line.

I value my life quite highly. I put about 8000 miles per year on my main 
car (and about 4000 miles per year on an older SUV I used to haul large 
items, etc.). My car gets about 20 mpg. This costs me about $700 per year 
in gasoline.

Some of the leftie/environmentalists on another list I am on attempted to 
argue, strenuously, that I owed it to the planet  and to yourself to 
start driving a Prius, a hybrid that the enthusiasts say averages around 40 
mpg. Whatever the exact number, if it is 40 mpg it would save me about 
$300-400 per year in gas, depending on the grade of gas it takes.

(Of course, my 1991 Mercedes-Benz is bought and paid for, and costs less 
than a Prius by about $6000-$9000, based on blue book comparisons of early 
90s MBs to late 90s-early 00s Priusi. Saving $350 a year will take 15-25 
years to amortize, modulo others costs.)

Then there's safety, and personal injury insurance rates. If my 3500-pound 
S-Class hits a Prius, the laws of physics dictate what happens. And if I 
hit a golf cart, er, a Honda Lupo, I'd better yell Fore!

(Here's a quote about the size: Developed in the wind tunnel and built 
entirely from composite carbon-fiber reinforced material, it has a width of 
only 1.25 m (49.2 inches) and is just over a meter high (39 inches).)


Since my life and my safety is vastly more valuable to me than saving 
$350-$600 a year in gas, I'll be keeping my 3500-pound S-Class.

(Actually, the little golf car runabouts are slightly popular (maybe one 
car in 2000 is one of these golf carts) near the downtown beach area around 
here. But not on the California freeways, and most definitely not the on 
the highway which consumes most of my driving: the mountainous Highway 17 
between Santa Cruz and San Jose, with 18-wheelers only a foot away. I 
wouldn't want to be sitting inside a golf cart just over a meter high 
when the wheels of an 18-wheeler are taller!)

And then there's the issue of carrying passengers, cargo, plus the 
availability of repairs in small towns, etc.

A lot of theoretically good solutions fail for market reasons, what 
someone correctly said is Metcalfe's Law, or the fax effect. Until fueling 
stations carry exotic fuels, or until all cars and trucks are reduced to 
golf cart sizes, the disadvantages outweigh the slight savings in fuel 
costs.

I'm quite surprised to see, on this list and on other lists, the ignorance 
of basic economics. Markets clear. Gas costs what it costs. To argue that 
there is a moral cost to consider, as some on those other lists have been 
arguing, is silly. Prisoner's Dilemma and all the usual arguments apply.

It's why I'll be safer when I run into Harmon on the

Animal Liberation Front.

The following essay appears in the current issue of The 'A' Word, a 
little magazine out of Seattle. It is currently on it's third issue, and I 
plan on doing it at least on a bi-monthly basis.
This is the first version of the essay, Speciesism and its Discontents, 
and I would happily and thankfully take constructive criticism, in the 
hopes of developing the ideas further.

We are interested in expanding our distribution (currently on Seattle), so, 
if you are interesting in carrying The 'A' Word at your local anarchist 
bookshop, please contact us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To preview the magazine, please see: http://explode.to/theaword/

 Speciesism and it's Discontents by darby 
carrgym 

I look at the term species as one arbitrarily given for the sake of 
convenience to a set of individuals closely resembling each other... 
-Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species

Animals whom we have made our slaves, we do not like to consider our 
equals. -Charles Darwin, Metaphysics, Materialism, and the Evolution of Mind

All the arguments to prove human superiority cannot shatter this hard fact: 
in suffering, the animals are our equals. -Peter Singer, Animal Liberation 
- Introduction

The constant and ignorant claim that animal issues are not human issues 
is as idiotic as saying that feminism is exclusively a women's issue. 
Similiarly, we see the marginalization of the Animal Right's (AR) movement 
from the mainstream anti-corporate globalization movement just as often. 
The consistent isolation of the AR movement from the anti-corporate 
globalization and the ideology that maintains that isolation, speciesism, 
is just as detrimental to the our struggle as sexism or racism. The goal of 
this essay is not to convince you to be against speciesism per se, but 
instead to show how speciesism has blinded us from applying useful models 
from the AR struggle to our own, and, to suggest tactics and strategies for 
the future.

It should be explicitly understood that the author of this essay agrees 
with the common criticism of the AR movement, that most of those involved 
are privileged middle class white people who don't get involved in other 
issues, simply because they are naive to them. It should also be understood 
that the AR movement is entrenched in racism and sexism, and needs to 
address these issues if it hopes to ultimately advance. Furthermore, to 
simply fight for the freedom of animals and the earth, and not for the 
abolition of capitalism and the state, is an ultimately futile attempt. 
Now, this being said, you cannot fall back on silly arguments like they 
are just animals! or animals and humans are different that usually come 
up when reading about these issues.

The marginalization of certain issues in the anti-corporate globalization 
movement is obvious and apparent. We see it everyday, whether this be at a 
meeting, or at a demonstration. It can be the annoying white male on the 
megaphone, leading the march, or the activist in the meeting who declares 
that identity politics aren't revolutionary. We see many issues being 
dismissed as being either irrelevant or divisive. This line of thought, 
of course, has most visibly emerged from labor based, white male activists, 
who don't want to address their relative privilege in this society.

Shallow Ecology

Anthropocentrism (human centered thought) is the legacy of 10,000 years of 
European and white conquest of the earth and its dwellers (human and 
non-human!). In contrast to the savages who conquered the earth with 
massive violence, some of their victims, Native Americans, believed the 
polar opposite. They believed that the earth, including everything on it, 
was sacred . As Chief Seal'th (Seattle) said, The earth does not belong 
to man, man belongs to the earth. All things are connected, like the blood 
that unites us all. Man did not weave the web of life, he is but a strand 
in it; whatever he does to the web, he does to himself. This view of the 
earth is known as Deep Ecology. It is the antithesis of human centered 
thought. Anthropocentrism (speciesism) plays out in our daily activist 
lives just as much as racism or sexism does. Just as often as men will get 
to do flashy work, while women do the shit work, activists of all 
stripes will consider ONLY human consequences, while dismissing others as 
silly. Striking examples of speciesism are everywhere. Most mainstream 
environmental groups (such as the Sierra Club) will only work on 
legitimate campaigns, shrugging off animal protections. This is also 
apparent in some of the animal welfare groups, who only work on issues that 
relate to cute animals, such as cats and dogs.

Actions Speak Louder than Words

As mentioned above, we cannot bring down the system simply trying to defeat 
it's symptoms. We have to conceptualize the struggle in terms of 
eliminating ALL domination. If we aren't

How to damage the nosecone of a US warplane.

US military plane damaged on runway
RTE online is reporting the arrest of a women at Shannon who is being 
questioned about damage to an American military plane there.

They claim the women has been staying at the peace camp and that It is 
understood the nose of a US Navy cargo aircraft was damaged in an incident 
on the tarmac early this morning.

If the story is true then this is the sixth succesful Direct Action at 
Shannon in the last year and the second in which a US military plane was 
damaged. The largest of these actions back in October saw 150 people take 
part in breaking down part of the perimeter fence and then entering the 
airfield itself. A detailed report on this with photos is at 
http://struggle.ws/wsm/news/2002/shannonOCT.html and more reports on 
protests in general at Shannon are at http://struggle.ws/wsm/shannon.html

These direct actions in Ireland are part of a growing international 
anti-war movement that says protesting the war is not enough, we must take 
action against the war machine. Recent actions have seen blockades of 
military bases in Britain while in San Francisco up to 2,000 people 
attacked the INS office. More reports on these and background information 
on the war online at http://struggle.ws/stopthewar.html

related link: http://struggle.ws/wsm/shannon.html

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=03/01/29/3870711
500,000 euro's has been mentioned.Good one!

Unarrested.

 Arresting Disobedience
by Jessica Azulay

ZNet Sustainer Program

January 23, 2003

Hundreds of thousands of people marched in Washington, DC and San Francisco 
last weekend, yet it looks like the U.S. is probably going to war anyway. 
The large, peaceful protests illustrated the size of our antiwar movement 
and certainly sent a powerful message to America that this war will not go 
unchallenged. But as coverage of the demonstrations dies down, it becomes 
increasingly obvious that hundreds of thousands taking to the streets, 
chanting, drumming, and propagandizing will not be enough to halt the war 
machine. And while outrage that Bush and company seem to be ignoring the 
will of the dissenting American majority is justified, we should not be 
surprised by elites decisions to ignore our protest.

As we consider more confrontational forms of protest, we need to keep our 
main goal of raising social costs always in mind. If we are to send a 
strong message to those in power, we must make it clear to them that waging 
war will cause more and more people to engage in activities that challenge 
their authority. In a society built on the obedient participation of its 
members, nothing is scarier than the threat of massive insubordination and 
noncompliance. Elites do not listen to moral reasoning or argument, but 
defiance is a language they will respond to because it threatens the very 
basis of their power, something they hold dear.

There are many ways that activists can escalate their antiwar commitment, 
such as direct action, strikes, boycotts, etc. So far, however, the most 
popular method seems to be civil disobedience. The term civil 
disobedience aptly describes a form of protest aimed at nonviolently 
defying the laws and status quo imposed on our society by the institutions 
that make war. It is activists willingness to disobey, even at great risks 
to their health and freedom, that challenges those laws and institutions. 
Since civil disobedience brings activists in direct confrontation with the 
law, it is often associated with mass arrests. It is important, however, 
that participants in civil disobedience tactics maintain a commitment to 
the defiance that scares elites so much.

Though arrests and jail time will sometimes be the inevitable consequences 
of disobedience, it is critical that arrest never becomes the main 
objective. Surrendering yourself to the U.S. justice system can be an 
extremely disempowering and horrible experience. Many of us try to avoid it 
if possible and for good reason. Why should we enter into actions with the 
intention of giving up our rights? We neednt assume or accept that the 
result of expressing our dissent will be arrest or incarceration. We must 
be prepared for it, but we should not willingly consent to or seek it.

In the last several months, some groups have done a great job of defining 
their targets of civil disobedience and confronting those targets with 
incredible determination and rebelliousness. They have used language, 
propaganda, and symbols that are easy to understand. All of this is 
important because in order for defiance to spread it must be empowering and 
accessible. When activists use their bodies and voices to try to shut down 
or impede the function of institutions that facilitate war, they have the 
potential to draw negative public attention to those institutions. When 
protestors expression of disobedience and non-compliance help them achieve 
their antiwar goals and allow them to forcefully express their dissent, it 
can inspire and uplift them and other activists.

On the other hand, I have witnessed several scenarios in which activists 
orchestrated and/or facilitated their own arrests. They walked into action 
with the intention of getting arrested, though most did not actually engage 
in activity confrontational enough to immediately provoke such an outcome. 
Some examples of this are: activists standing in front of buildings without 
actually blocking entrances, activists blockading entrances that were not 
actually being used, activists sitting down in intersections that were not 
open to traffic. In many of these situations, the determination to get 
arrested was so strong that it became the focus of the activity. In one 
case, for instance, when police asked what the activists demands were they 
said, Arrest us. In many situations, trying to negotiate against arrest 
was not considered. No one questioned whether or not there was actual legal 
basis for the arrests and no one demanded that the police respect the first 
amendment rights of the activists.

As a witness, I came away feeling extremely disempowered, alienated, and 
even angry. In situations where the goal or intended message of an action 
is arrest, the idea of disobedience gets subverted. There is not much 
defiant or threatening about activists who freely submit themselves to the 
mercy of the system. For these demonstrations, it seemed as if a

3 amigo's.

Three anarchist still in prison in Valencia since 10-15-2002 (english)
cna-abc palma de mallorca 7:03pm Wed Jan 29 '03
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  article#232252

3 anarchist remain in prison since the last october. This 2nd of february 
will be an international struggle day in solidarity with them

www.chentolos.com

Flock of black seagulls.

Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi has condemned an allegation by US 
President George W Bush that Iran is developing weapons of mass destruction.
Whatever comments Bush made on Iran's pursuing weapons of mass destruction 
are totally baseless, superficial and wrong, he told reporters in Tehran.

Iran is fending off charges levelled at Iraq
He also rejected comments about democracy in Iran, saying the Islamic 
Republic did not need outside advice.

However, Mr Bush's references to Iran, made during his State of the Union 
speech, were milder than in his axis of evil speech in 2002 and he only 
referred to Iran's neighbour Iraq as evil.

In Iran, we continue to see a government that represses its people, 
pursues weapons of mass destruction and supports terror, Mr Bush said.

Mr Kharrazi replied that: The Iranian nation does not need to get advice 
from outside.

Bush 'losing support'

Referring directly to Iraq, the minister said: We are neutral but that 
does not mean we are indifferent.

Washington broke diplomatic ties after students stormed its embassy in 
Tehran in 1979 and took 52 people hostage for 444 days.

Mr Kharrazi accused the US of seeking to create an atmosphere of security 
tension, inside [the US] and outside, especially in the Middle East.

A commentary on Iranian radio on Wednesday accused President Bush of 
seeking to distract attention from America's domestic troubles by going to 
war with Iraq, but failing to enlist support.

When he speaks today about Iraq and Saddam Hussein missing the opportunity 
to disarm, he still cannot speak directly about his plan to attack Iraq, 
the commentary said.

This is because he knows that the current mood in the world is no longer 
prepared to put up with America's unilateral policies

George Bush is facing a greater challenge to keep hot the furnace of his 
warmongering propaganda.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2706751.stm

Curates Egg.

I would rather eat my keyboard than watch the State of the Union speech, so 
consider this article an act of sacrificial public service.
The most irritating thing about the State of the Union is that we are a 
captive audience  in every way. This guy taxes us, spends our money on 
stuff he likes, sends our kids to war on his decision, lies to us, dares to 
believe that his personal will is somehow more important than yours or mine 
or anyone else's solely because he managed to eke out a few more electoral 
votes than Gore two years ago, and to top it off, expects that we will 
watch for more than an hour as he prattles, while his minions interrupt him 
only to stand and applaud.
Where to begin to criticize? George Bush is the biggest spender since 
Lyndon Johnson, increasing federal spending at a rate twice that of 
Clinton, and yet he stands up and demands spending restraint, seeming to 
blame everyone but himself.
He talks about freedom and opportunity and then brags about his new 
bureaucracies, spending programs, mandates, comprehensive plans, 
regulations, and goals concerning all our lives, from how our kids are 
educated to the cars we drive to the way we care for those in need.
He claims to care for life, decries partial-birth abortion, but refuses to 
rule out the use of nuclear weapons in the war he is plotting. He calls on 
America to feed the entire world, liberate all its women, educate all its 
children, and cure all its sick, even as ghettos rife with every social 
pathology languish miles from the White House.
Hypocrisy? He denounces bureaucrats and praises innovation only to demand a 
huge new boondoggle program to put researchers on the dole. Indeed, the 
underlying assumption behind the entire speech was that Americas 
commitment is identical to his own commitment, which is reflected in his 
plans for your money.
Dont write me to say that he wants to cut taxes, and so we should like 
him. Every few minutes, we heard spending numbers: tens and hundreds of 
millions, tens and hundreds of billions! It is never too much, and nothing 
is outside his purview. Indeed, he calls for the federal government, under 
his leadership, to transform our souls. He went further: he says he is 
defending the hopes of all mankind.
His entire foreign policy seems like a massive effort to incite every 
terrorist in the world against this country, and otherwise encourage every 
small country to arm to the teeth against the US threat. From the 
governments point of view, such would only increase the power of D.C., so 
one has to wonder whether this is the point after all. And not to nitpick, 
but how can he at once say that Iraq is despotic for ignoring the UN even 
as he brags that he will ignore the UN if he chooses?
The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of others I 
will defend the freedom and security of the American people.
Are these not the words of a dictator?
It's too much! There should be a break at the midway point, in which we 
could broadcast messages like: You are our servant, not our master! 
Everything you do, you do with our money! There are three branches of 
government, and you only represent one! The powers not granted to you are 
reserved to the states and the people! You are not king of the world! The 
founders envisioned frequent impeachments!
Instead, we must sit and sit and watch a despotic display that seems like 
an import from the times of Pharaohs and Caesars, or the modern world of 
dictators and commissars. What does this one fellow, holed up in the White 
House, living off other people's money, surrounded by sycophants and 
pollsters, know about the state of the union?
The speech was particularly bad this year because we are dealing with a man 
who has clearly lost perspective. He speaks about his desire for peace even 
as he ignores the whole world's plea for him not to bomb and kill. He talks 
about a war on terror but the words Osama Bin Laden never pass his lips. He 
speaks of all the things the government will do to make us prosperous even 
as a two-year track record has failed to put a dent in the worsening 
recession.
Indeed, his language seems to reflect a very dangerous state of mind. He 
habitually speaks about America as identical to the central state, and 
seems to regard that state as incarnated in himself  the entire apparatus 
of government embodied in his person. His will is the people's will, the 
perfect realization of Rousseau's fantasy. But rather than the language of 
the French Revolution, he uses the cadences of his evangelical 
constituents, invoking God and quoting old-time hymns.
Americans have a hard time recognizing just how fascistically scary all 
this is because we are surrounded by it all the time, and we read and watch 
a media that rarely draws attention to it. But foreigners see it.
Hardly a day goes by when I don't receive a call from abroad, usually from 
some classical liberal scholar or supporter, who asks with

Green peace or pukeyellow war?

Mon 27 January 2003
UNITED KINGDOM/Southhampton

http://www.greenpeace.org/news/details?item_id=121583

Greenpeace flag ship, the Rainbow Warrior, entered Marchwood Military port 
in Southampton and blocked the departure of UK military supply vessels 
heading for the Iraqi conflict in the Gulf.

Speaking from the bridge of the Rainbow Warrior, Stephen Tindale, Director 
of Greenpeace in the UK said,

We are determined to stop the headlong rush to a war which places a higher 
price on oil than on blood. War with Iraq would not make the world a safer 
place: it would increase support for terrorism and could lead to the use of 
weapons of mass detruction. The human and environmental impacts would be 
appalling and no one would benefit other than George Bush and oil companies 
like Esso.


latest

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/contentlookup.cfm?ucidparam=20030128095001Menupoint=D-J 


As night fell, the remaining volunteers on board the Magdelana Green were 
removed from the site by police climbers and later released. The Rainbow 
Warrior remained in position and continued to prevent vessels from being 
able to load their cargo or to set sail.

During the night a strong squall started up and the Rainbow Warrior began 
to drag its anchor. It was impossible to remain in position, even with the 
engines on, so the decision was made to move the ship out of the port. The 
ship has taken up safer anchorage in open water and is holding its postion 
in the Solent. The Rainbow Warrior will remain there until it is safe to 
continue with our campaign.

We are continuing with our global campaign to prevent a military attack on 
Iraq that would kill hundreds of thousands of civilians and increase the 
chances of weapons of mass destruction being used.

Greenpeace is opposed to war in Iraq, whether or not an attack is 
sanctioned by the United Nations, because it would have devastating human 
and environmental consequences. According to military and health experts a 
conventional war could kill over 200,000 people, mainly civilians, and a 
further quarter of a million could die from famine and disease (MEDACT). If 
war escalates to involve chemical or nuclear weapons the death toll could 
even run into millions.
more at

http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/012703_greenpeace_activists_block_milit.htm

www.greenpeace.org/homepage/

Godwins Triumph.

Wednesday, January 29, 2003 â?? Page A15 Globe  Mail


Three score and 10 years -- the traditional reckoning of a lifetime -- 
that's how long it has been since Adolf Hitler was sworn in as chancellor 
of Germany on Jan. 30, 1933.

Hitler took the helm with an extremely clear idea of how he would mobilize 
the nation to achieve the program he had in mind. His goal was to enable 
Germany to throw off the shackles imposed on it by the Treaty of Versailles 
at the end of the First World War and to achieve German domination of 
Europe from the Atlantic to the Ural Mountains.

In the wreckage of Germany in the years after the 1918 armistice, Hitler 
cobbled together the political philosophy he clung to for the rest of his 
life. Force mattered most in deciding things, Hitler believed. To him, 
notions of overcoming the injustices suffered by some peoples at the hands 
of others through negotiation, reason and internationalism were nothing but 
sophistry. Worse, such ideas were fetters whose purpose was to keep those 
who ruled the Earth in their positions of power. Germany would realize its 
rightful place in the sun only when Germans hardened their hearts against 
other peoples and forged an implacable unity under the direction of an 
uncompromising leader.

Race was at the heart of Hitler's distinctly unoriginal world-view. The 
world's races, he held, were locked in a struggle for survival, one against 
another. The Germans constituted a master race, superior to those around 
them, particularly the Slavs. Only the Jews, Hitler thought, could thwart 
the German march to supremacy. The Jews -- Hitler and the Nazi racial 
theorists believed -- constituted a bacillus that had to be excised from 
the bloodstream of Germany and Europe. This idea, for decades the subject 
of the ranting of the politically demented in flophouses and beer halls, 
ultimately became the basis for the murder of six million Jews.

There was nothing inevitable about Hitler's rise to power. He became 
chancellor for the very good reason that his party won the largest number 
of votes in free elections. But without the active scheming of members of 
Germany's ruling elite, he never would have been sworn in on that fateful 
January day.

Hitler's electoral support was actually slipping on the eve of his 
accession to power. While the Nazis won 37.4 per cent of the vote in the 
parliamentary election in July of 1932 -- their highest total in a free 
election -- this fell to 33.1 per cent in November of 1932 in Germany's 
last free parliamentary election.

It took Hitler just over a year and a half to acquire absolute power after 
becoming chancellor. One would like to be able to record that -- as Hitler 
built concentration camps, set in train the highly visible and ferocious 
persecution of Jews, and created a military force with the clear goal of 
assaulting neighbouring countries -- Germans soured on their leader. The 
reverse was true.

Hitler's rearmament put unemployed Germans back to work. He sailed from 
triumph to triumph in foreign policy, swallowing Austria and Czechoslovakia 
without war. On the eve of the Second World War, historians agree that 
Hitler's popularity with the German people was immense, that he was the 
most idolized leader in the world with his own people.

Germany's early victories in the Second World War convinced Hitler's 
adoring public that he was a military as well as a political genius. It was 
his inability to accept that he and Germany were subject to any limits that 
brought him down. Invading the Soviet Union in June of 1941 and recklessly 
declaring war on the United States four days after Pearl Harbor in December 
of 1941 sealed his fate.

On Jan. 30, 1943, 10 years to the day after Hitler was sworn in as 
chancellor, Hermann Goering, the Nazi air force chief, broadcast to the 
German people a funeral oration for the doomed German Sixth Army at 
Stalingrad. Twenty-seven months later, the Soviet army was in Berlin, the 
Allies were closing in, and Hitler had shot himself in his bunker.

If Hitler's totalitarianism and his maniacal drive to remake the world in 
his own image have a distinctly 20th-century feel about them, they also 
remain a stark warning in our new century. A lifetime after he took power, 
exclusionism, ethnic cleansing, genocide and the idolization of leaders who 
seem to be able to solve problems through force are very much a part of our 
world. And the weapons Hitler deployed were mere toys in comparison to the 
weapons today's great states possess.

James Laxer is a professor of political science at York University.

www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleN...

This is the president that was.

One has to go back to the lesser Roman emperors of the second century to 
find an imperial suzerain as dismal as Bush. Tuesday's was surely the worst 
State of the Union address to Congress in the past thirty years, as the 
commander-in-chief stumbled through a thicket of brazen fictions towards 
the proposed rendez-vous with destiny of February 5, the day Secretary of 
State Colin Powell is scheduled to make his way to the United Nations to 
present the administration's latest intelligence confection on the topic 
of Saddam's deceits.

If you want to get a taste of how these ramshackle intelligence reports 
are assembled, take a look at Apparatus of Lies: Saddam's Disinformation 
and Propaganda, 1990-2003, recently issued by the White House and invoked 
Tuesday night by the 43rd President.

By a way of illustrating the all-round deviousness of Saddam's propaganda 
machine, the White House document cites on page 23 the Pakistani news 
outlet Inqilab as having reported on January 27, 1991, that The American 
pop star Madonna was in Saudi Arabia, entertaining US troops. The White 
House comments triumphantly: Madonna never went to Saudi Arabia. Moral: 
if Saddam can lie about Madonna, he can certainly bring the Big One out of 
some bunker in Tikrit and drop it on Jerusalem.

Bush's speech, if one can dignify same with a word intended to designate 
ordered rhetoric, was a backhanded compliment to David Frum, the former 
White House speech writer who was fired last year after his wife proudly 
disclosed that he had invented the phrase Axis of Evil. No such exciting 
phrases adorned Bush's second State of the Union address. In the first half 
of the address Bush stumbled through his prescriptions to make the rich 
richer with the timbre of an inexperienced waiter reciting the Daily 
Specials. He even blew the opening and most outrageous lie of all, that We 
will not pass along problems to future generations, a pledge launched amid 
a vista of red ink as far as the eye can see, as those future generations 
pick up the tab for Bush's hand-outs to the super-rich today, to the arms 
companies, the drug industry and other prime contributors.

The assembled hacks and pundits of the Fourth Estate made haste to praise 
Bush for his impassioned resolve, but across the country and around the 
world the speech was a bust. Next morning CNN went searching for Hails to 
the Chief in a diner somewhere along the Atlantic seaboard, but the 
increasingly frayed reporter could only elicit grumbles about Bush's 
unconvincing performance on the economy and on why exactly the US had to go 
to war with Iraq. In Tokyo the Nikkei sank abruptly, followed by falls on 
exchanges as they came on line in every time zone.

On the likelihood of a US attack on Iraq I've tended to be a maybe-not type 
of guy. But now, after all the hoopla and the build-up, how can G. Bush not 
launch his attack in Baghdad? He's got no Exit strategy, even as he and the 
mad Rumsfeld shove their feet ever deeper into their mouths. Suppose the 
troops all come home with not a missile or a bullet fired? Won't there be 
pressing questions to the effect of: What was all that about? Then people 
will look around and start noticing the mess the homeland is getting itself 
into on the economic front.

But is it really feasible to imagine the War Party flouting the opinions of 
the UN, of NATO, of much of the Congress and the huge slice of the American 
public opposed to unilateral action without clear evidence that Iraq is a 
clear and present threat? Only 29 per cent support the What-the-Hell, 
Let's-Go-It-Alone path.

The coverage of anti-war protests round the world on January 18 has been 
scandalously bad. Many reporters and editors opted for demure phrases such 
as tens of thousands, which scarcely does justice to turn-outs in excess 
of quarter of a million. Friends of mine at the demonstration in Washington 
DC said the one last October was double that of the first, in the spring of 
2002, and that the January 18 demo had doubled the crowd in October, giving 
a rough Jan 18 total of 300,000 (the estimate of a cop who'd been at all 
three). There were anywhere from 50,000 to 200,000 people in San Francisco, 
and 20,000 in downtown Portland. There were big demonstrations in Montreal, 
Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton and Halifax and others in France, Japan, 
Pakistan, Britain, Sweden, Syria, Belgium, Egypt, Lebanon, New Zealand.

Footnote: At the December meeting in London of Iraqi exiles one Iraqi 
opponent of the war listened in amazement as some Iraqis deeply involved in 
Washington's plans calmly agreed that a casualty rate of around 250,000 to 
500,000 Iraqis was acceptable.

Patton: Fury Mounts

Spending last weekend with friends in Landrum, right on the North/South 
Carolina line, I found the death of the Smoaks' dog was still very much on 
folks' minds, and not just because Saluda, where the Smoaks live, was just 
up Interstate 25 from Landrum, north towards

Crawford Corral.

Mr. Bush, no individual and no nation is invincible forever. Unless you 
stop creating enemies where none exist, and fuelling the flames of 
anti-Americanism around the world, then the day will come when you too will 
be challenged by a merciless opponent... and another... and another.
Defenders of truth and justice
My heroes in this murky mess are those who boarded a London bus en route 
for Baghdad, led by Kenneth Nicholls O'Keefe, a former marine, where they 
will willingly serve as human shields. Keefe said on BBC World's Hard Talk 
that he wanted to look an Iraqi in the eye and tell him that there are 
Westerners who care and he's one of them.
The incredibly honest and authentic O'Keefe reminds me of Lawrence of 
Arabia who in the movie attempts to explain how he is very different from 
the 'fat' people in England. Lawrence succeeded and garnered the trust of 
the Arab tribes only to be stabbed in the back by the British 
establishment. O'Keefe will, no doubt, share a similar fate.
In the same way that Lawrence turned his back on his own and went into 
obscurity, the former marine already has. He took the step of relinquishing 
his American citizenship because, as he says, he could no longer swear 
allegiance or pay taxes to the country of his birth.
The Greenpeace guys and girls on the Rainbow Warrior, presently anchored in 
the Solent blocking Britain's warships from sailing off get my vote, along 
with those protestors who marched to Fairford RAF base in Gloucestershire 
demanding inspection of Britain's weapons of mass destruction. I wish I had 
half their courage and commitment. I can only glue my fingers to the keys 
and hope that someone out there is listening.
Come on Americans and Britons. Let's see your mettle. Our grandfathers and 
great-grandfathers who swallowed mud in the World War I trenches have been 
designated 'the finest generation'. Let's show the world that we are just 
as fine and we will not allow egomaniacal greedy leaders to endanger the 
very existence of humanity in our name.
Linda Heard is a specialist writer on Middle East affairs. She can be 
reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Data Retentive.

Battle line
'American aerial radar surveillance systems - possibly even drones - and 
anti-terrorist patrols may be deployed to protect stretches of a £2bn 
pipeline from the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean that is being 
constructed by British oil giant BP. The use of sophisticated security 
systems to guard the 1,087-mile subterranean line has alarmed the coalition 
of 60 environmental and human rights groups opposed to the scheme, which 
will deliver a million barrels a day to western markets by 2005. 
Campaigners fear that further militarisation of the Caucasus and eastern 
Turkey will reignite conflicts, damage local communities and accelerate 
global warming' ( Guardian )
»
See also the Some Common Concerns document
(2.38MB PDF), this Bankwatch background paper (PDF), this article by Anders 
Lustgarten from last month, the ECGD website, the International Finance 
Corporation website, the EBRD website, the London Rising Tide website, the 
Environmental Resource Management website, the PKK website, the Kurdish 
Human Rights Project website, the Northrop Grumman website, the FOE 
International website, these Platform webpages, and this blog entry from 
earlier this month

Afghanistan - Post Conflict Environmental Assessment
(3.46MB PDF)
UN report on environmental damage and infrastructure collapse in 
Afghanistan, caused by the two decades of conflict that followed the end of 
Soviet occupation
( PCAU )
»
See also this press release, and this BBC coverage

Companies test prototype wireless-sensor nets
Article about self-organising wireless-sensor networks, or 'smart-dust' ( 
EE Times )
»
See also this Slashdot discussion, DARPA's MEMS webpages, and this blog 
entry from July

Communications Data: Report of an Inquiry by the All Party Internet Group (PDF)
Report by a group of UK parliamentarians into government plans for the 
retention of communications data, essentially concluding that the Home 
Office doesn't really know what it's doing ( APIG )
»
See also this oral evidence and this written evidence submitted to the 
inquiry, this BBC coverage, this Statewatch analysis of the massive 
increase in communications surveillance under New Labour, this Guardian 
coverage, this text of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, and this 
text of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act

Venezuelan strike falters
'Venezuela's 58-day-old strike by right-wing business groups and unions to 
remove the country's democratically elected president appears to be waning. 
Oil production has increased, the stock exchange reopened and the 
opposition infighting over how to continue their actions against President 
Hugo Chavez has become public' ( BBC )
»
See also this Reuters coverage

[ 28 January 2003 ] LINKS?

http://www.hullocentral.demon.co.uk/site/anfin.htm

Your a coward BUSH!

William Russell, the great correspondent who reported the carnage of 
imperial wars, may have first used the expression blood on his hands to 
describe impeccable politicians who, at a safe distance, order the mass 
killing of ordinary people.
In my experience on his hands applies especially to those modern 
political leaders who have had no personal experience of war, like George W 
Bush, who managed not to serve in Vietnam, and the effete Tony Blair.
There is about them the essential cowardice of the man who causes death and 
suffering not by his own hand but through a chain of command that affirms 
his authority.
In 1946 the judges at Nuremberg who tried the Nazi leaders for war crimes 
left no doubt about what they regarded as the gravest crimes against humanity.
The most serious was unprovoked invasion of a sovereign state that offered 
no threat to one's homeland. Then there was the murder of civilians, for 
which responsibility rested with the highest authority.
Blair is about to commit both these crimes, for which he is being denied 
even the flimsiest United Nations cover now that the weapons inspectors 
have found, as one put it, zilch.
Like those in the dock at Nuremberg, he has no democratic cover.
Using the archaic royal prerogative he did not consult parliament or the 
people when he dispatched 35,000 troops and ships and aircraft to the Gulf; 
he consulted a foreign power, the Washington regime.
Unelected in 2000, the Washington regime of George W Bush is now 
totalitarian, captured by a clique whose fanaticism and ambitions of 
endless war and full spectrum dominance are a matter of record.
All the world knows their names: Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Cheney 
and Perle, and Powell, the false liberal. Bush's State of the Union speech 
last night was reminiscent of that other great moment in 1938 when Hitler 
called his generals together and told them: I must have war. He then had it.
To call Blair a mere poodle is to allow him distance from the killing of 
innocent Iraqi men, women and children for which he will share responsibility.
He is the embodiment of the most dangerous appeasement humanity has known 
since the 1930s. The current American elite is the Third Reich of our 
times, although this distinction ought not to let us forget that they have 
merely accelerated more than half a century of unrelenting American state 
terrorism: from the atomic bombs dropped cynically on Japan as a signal of 
their new power to the dozens of countries invaded, directly or by proxy, 
to destroy democracy wherever it collided with American interests, such 
as a voracious appetite for the world's resources, like oil.
When you next hear Blair or Straw or Bush talk about bringing democracy to 
the people of Iraq, remember that it was the CIA that installed the Ba'ath 
Party in Baghdad from which emerged Saddam Hussein.
That was my favourite coup, said the CIA man responsible. When you next 
hear Blair and Bush talking about a smoking gun in Iraq, ask why the US 
government last December confiscated the 12,000 pages of Iraq's weapons 
declaration, saying they contained sensitive information which needed a 
little editing.

Sensitive indeed. The original Iraqi documents listed 150 American, British 
and other foreign companies that supplied Iraq with its nuclear, chemical 
and missile technology, many of them in illegal transactions. In 2000 Peter 
Hain, then a Foreign Office Minister, blocked a parliamentary request to 
publish the full list of lawbreaking British companies. He has never 
explained why.

As a reporter of many wars I am constantly aware that words on the page 
like these can seem almost abstract, part of a great chess game unconnected 
to people's lives.

The most vivid images I carry make that connection. They are the end result 
of orders given far away by the likes of Bush and Blair, who never see, or 
would have the courage to see, the effect of their actions on ordinary 
lives: the blood on their hands.

Let me give a couple of examples. Waves of B52 bombers will be used in the 
attack on Iraq. In Vietnam, where more than a million people were killed in 
the American invasion of the 1960s, I once watched three ladders of bombs 
curve in the sky, falling from B52s flying in formation, unseen above the 
clouds.

They dropped about 70 tons of explosives that day in what was known as the 
long box pattern, the military term for carpet bombing. Everything inside 
a box was presumed destroyed.

When I reached a village within the box, the street had been replaced by 
a crater.

I slipped on the severed shank of a buffalo and fell hard into a ditch 
filled with pieces of limbs and the intact bodies of children thrown into 
the air by the blast.

The children's skin had folded back, like parchment, revealing veins and 
burnt flesh that seeped blood, while the eyes, intact, stared straight 
ahead. A small leg had been so contorted by the blast that the foot seemed 
to be growing from a

Roger Rabbit says: Bullshit


I don't really understand why examining the current state of affairs in US 
transportation is productive.

Who built the highway system? Private companies? Hell no.
Basically, the US government did, and that acted as the initial investment 
to make the value of an automobile (via the Network Effect) very high.

So in a sense, the US government has occasionally placed some bets on 
technology that arguably paid off. So the large activation energy needed 
to get some technologies rolling is sometimes too large for any one company, 
so once in a while a government can do something useful.
(This is not to say that they should...I'm willing to concede that such 
payoffs are largely accidental.)

Meanwhile, public transportation in the US sucks precisely because the 
government has always sided with big business. there's no real motivation to 
build a usable mass transportation system in most of the urban areas, 
despite the fact that such systems can and do work (here in NYC, and 
throughout Europe and the far East).

My point is not inherently statist per se, just that things are never 
black and white. Government doesn't HAVE to be stupid and useless, is just 
almost always is.

As for the Roger Rabbit plot, that actually happened, and the events of 
Roger Rabbit were loosely based on them. Would that lightrail system have 
slowly evolved into a useful mass transit system for the LA basin? Possibly, 
 but possibly not.






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Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Steve Schear

At 09:08 PM 1/29/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tim May wrote...

Ask why the U.S.S.R., which depended essentially solely on federal 
funding, failed so completely. Hint: it wasn't just because of 
repression. It was largely because picking winners doesn't work, and 
command economies only know how to pick winners (they think).

(A side note should be made here about the fact that some technologies 
have a very high activation energy barrier...without a very intensive 
amount of capital, they can't happen. Indeed, aren't we nearly at that 
point with sub-0.13um technology? It is possible that further advances 
just won't be possible without direct or indirect government funding.)

If you mean photolith below those dimensions you may be right, but as you 
know scaling down from the top is just one approach.  Building up from the 
bottom (u.e., nanotech) is also receiving both gov't and substantial 
private funding.  Although bulk nano-materials are the first economic 
applications of this approach (in fact, nano materials, e.g., carbon soot, 
have been in industrial use for many decades), it looks like structured 
materials and devices may not be that far behind.

steve

Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and minorities is aQ

Tom Veil wrote...



According to the most recent Census data, blacks currently account for
around 12.6 percent, or 35.5 million, Even if 20 million are 
liquidated, there will still be plenty of vermin
around to replenish their numbers.

--
Tom Veil

So what's the deal with hating black folks? I still don't get it. Of course, 
there's the old They Eat Up Welfare Money bullshit, but aside from the 
fact that Whites eat up more welfare (absolute and percentage), why get mad 
at folks if they take $$$ that are given to them?

In the case of black folks, however, this is a population that has not been 
well served by the US system, despite their disproportionate contributions 
(Trane, Monk, Bird, Miles anyone?).

As for me I grew up in a very tough black neighborhood in NYC, and lost a 
front tooth to a black fist. (When I was a kid that is. Not a lot of people 
even here would try something like that with me now.) So I theoretically 
have the right to hate. But the fact is that if you live with black folks, 
you see there's really not a hell of a lot of difference between them and 
whites in this country (except they don't seem to like meat cooked medium 
rare for some reason).

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PARENTS OF 15-YEAR-OLD FIND $71,000 CASH HIDDEN IN HIS CLOSET.

$$$  TRUE STORY -- SEEN ON ABC's 20-20 

BOY 15 MAKES 71 THOUSAND IN 5 WEEKS!!!

Does this headline look familiar? You may have just seen this story 
recently featured on a major nightly news program (USA).

His mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when she came across a 
large brown paper bag that was suspiciously buried beneath some clothes 
and a skateboard in the back of her 15-year-old sons closet. Nothing 
could have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened the bag and 
found it was full of cash. Five-dollar bills, twenties, fifties and 
hundreds - all neatly rubber-banded in labeled piles.

My first thought was that he had robbed a bank, says the 41-year-old 
woman, There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag- that's more than my 
husband earns in a year.

The woman immediately called her husband at the car-dealership where he 
worked to tell him what she had discovered. He came home right away and 
they drove together to the boys school and picked him up. Little did 
they suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than 
actually finding it in the closet.

As it turns out, the boy had been sending out, via E-mail, a type of 
Report to E-mail addresses that he obtained off of the Internet.  
Everyday after school for the past 2 months, he had been doing this right on 
his computer in his bedroom.

I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the heck, I put my 
name on it like the instructions said and I started sending it out, says 
the clever 15-year-old.

The E-mail letter listed 5 addresses and contained instructions to send 
one $5 dollar bill to each person on the list, then delete the address 
at the top and move the others addresses down , and finally to add your 
name to the top of the list.

The letter goes on to state that you would receive several thousand 
dollars in five-dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out the letter 
with your name at the top of the 5-address list.  I get junk E-mail all 
the time, and really did not think it was going to work, the boy 
continues.

Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail, the Post Office 
Box that his parents had gotten him for his video-game magazine 
subscriptions began to fill up with not magazines, but envelopes containing $5 
bills.  About a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post office and 
my box had 1 magazine and about 300 envelops stuffed in it. There was 
also a yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] 
counter.  I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs). He goes on, I 
went up to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me.  I 
had to ride back home and empty out my backpack because I could not 
carry it all.

Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail. The 
money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in 
the closet, barely had time for my homework. 

In fact, everything the boy did was completely legal according to US 
Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, 
Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations, 
Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must be 
exchanged for money received.

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can do the exact same thing he was doing, simply by following the 
instructions in this letter.

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Content Altering DVD Players

2003-01-30 Thread Eric Cordian

http://msn.zdnet.com/zdfeeds/msncobrand/reviews/0,13828,2909517,00.html

Snide little comments in []'s are mine.

-

Dear Hollywood: Keep your hands off my DVDs
By David Coursey, AnchorDesk 

Wish you could watch major films at home without being offended by words
you wouldn't use in your own home, and worrying whether your children are
seeing things they shouldn't?

[Uh, no.]
   
Think you should have the right to view the movies you own (or rent)
the way you--and not the content's creators--wish?

[You mean like an historically accurate version of Schindler's List?] 

IN EITHER CASE, you should know about a company that hopes to market a
special DVD player that will automatically skip over violent and sexually
explicit scenes and mute the bad language that is so prevalent in
Hollywood blockbusters.

[Those darn Mormons should really stay out of the Entertainment business, 
 except for the Osmond Family Christmas Special.]

Here's the problem: Hollywood is suing to keep this DVD player off the
market. The major studios and the Directors Guild of America are
essentially saying that, when you buy a DVD, you must watch it exactly the
way it was created--or not watch it at all.

[Hollywood makes edited versions of almost everything, for broadcast TV,
 airline flights, Saudi Arabian social events, and many other venues.  The
 difference here is that such editing is done under contract with the
 studios and with the permission of the content creators.  What Hollywood
 is suing over, is illegal editing and resale of their content.  I'm sure
 if the Fundies pay Hollywood enough, and sign a contract, they can edit
 to their heart's content.  Or maybe they could just rent the airline
 version.]

The company that's created this DVD technology, ClearPlay, is one of a
dozen or so businesses that, in one way or another, offer cleaned-up
versions of PG- and R-rated movies. Others, such as CleanFlicks, rent and
sell DVDs and videotapes that have been physically edited to exclude
objectionable content.
   
According to CEO Bill Aho...

[  Cornohol : Cornhole :: Aho : ?  ]

...(whom I interviewed yesterday on my radio show), ClearPlay uses special
software--already available for PC-based DVD players--to skip over
specific scenes and mute language while the disc is being played.
ClearPlay editors have viewed and created filters for more than 300 films,
from A.I. Artificial Intelligence to Zoolander.  Aho admits that there are
some movies (such as Saving Private Ryan) that ClearPlay hasn't filtered
because doing so would ruin the film. The filters are specific enough that
even a gritty war drama like Blackhawk Down might lose just three or four
minutes of run time.

[The mind boggles at what the prudes wanted to cut out of A.I..]
   
The ClearPlay service is available right now (if you're willing to use
your PC as your DVD player) for $7.95 a month, or $79 a year. The custom
DVD player, expected to sell for less that $100, will come to market later
this year--unless it's blocked by the courts.
   
ClearPlay, CleanFlicks, and other similar companies are presently locked
in legal battles with the entertainment industry, which claims that
copyright owners alone have the right to make derivative works by
editing the originals. If anyone else creates derivative works, the
studios and their allies argue, that would violate the studio's trademark
rights to a motion picture.

[See me make a derivative work of this clown's article.]

I CAN OFFER only three words to Hollywood: Get over it. Or maybe: Turn it
around. If people find certain scenes in certain movies offensive, maybe
Hollywood shouldn't force its paying customers to watch those scenes.

[Bwahahahaha!  Hollywood isn't forcing you to look at anything, you
 cockered accumulation of bawdy squirrel guts.]
   
I understand that editing can sometimes change the meaning of a motion
picture--but so what? This is supposed to be entertainment, and people
shouldn't be forced to be offended when they want to be entertained.
 
[Great - then be entertained by Sandy Patty's Greatest Hits, instead of 
 Saving Private Ryan.]
  
Furthermore, if a company like ClearPlay has found a viable market in
letting consumers clean up movies on the fly, maybe Hollywood needs to
sell DVDs already edited to something closer to a G or PG rating.
   
[Hollywood can sell, or not sell, anything it wishes to.  You cannot sell
 a studio's content without their permission.]

Hollywood is no stranger to editing films to reduce violence or drop
offensive language. The TV networks have long required this (though less
and less as time goes by), and directors often reedit their films in order
to get a desired rating for showing in theaters.
   
From a legal standpoint, there is probably some difference between what
CleanFlicks does, which is actually editing the content, and ClearPlay's
approach, which leaves the content intact but automates the fast-forward
and mute features that individual users could invoke

Re: CDR: Re: Palm Pilot Handshake

2003-01-30 Thread Michael Shields

In article 003301c2c7c2$c734bbe0$0301000a@thishost,
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Palms do have fairly slow processors so checking keys may take a while
 and generating them probably quite a long time.

For perspective, however, current-model Palms have 33 MHz Motorola 68k
processors, which used to be considered a nice desktop CPU.  In 1991,
when PGP was first released, the Mac Classic II had a 16 MHz 68030 and
2 MB of RAM.  If that was enough for PGP, then a Palm m500 ought to be
capable of it also.

Granted, you will want to use longer keys now.  But the hardware in
your pocket can do more crypto than you might think.  And they're only
getting faster.
-- 
Shields.

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You folks here pay lip service to aspect of free markets and 
anarcho-capitalism,but many of you consistently fail to see the 
follow-through, the applicability to the world around you. You need to have 
faith that greed is good, that free markets optimize a lot better than 
planners in Washington or Tokyo or Moscow do. And while no planning job is 
ever perfect, no optimization makes everybody happy, at least with free 
markets there is not the coercion and graft which feeds the state.

Let's take a look at this for a second.

Why do I need to have faith that greed is good? Even IF this statement is 
true, so what? Is this another way of saying, If only everyone in the world 
thought like Tim May the world would be a better place?

Sorry. As a trained physicist-cum-engineer, I know that the physical world 
has never been well described by any one theory. Depending on context, EM, 
QM, Mechanics, Hamiltonian Dynamics, QED, Classical or Neo-classic optics 
are all still quite useful and necessary. And I don't expect the world of 
people and their ideas to be any simpler.

So why the insistence on not only anarcho-capitalist, but YOUR version of 
it? You seem to respond strongly to very surface-level issues in not only my 
posts (which you frankly do not comprehend most of the time) but others as 
well, often bringing any real discourse to a halt. In other words, there 
seems to be a need for some kind of May-ian Orthodoxy.

Me? I grew up here in NYC in the 70s, where/when Punk began (please, no one 
out in the sticks there try to tell me about the Brits inventing Punk, and 
I'll spare us the history lesson). In a sense, this term has packed in it 
the very essence of anti-Orthodoxy. We (yes we) spoke with our axes and 
sheer, raw energy. (This was later interpreted as some kind of rebellion 
against Prog, but that's only true for the Brits.) When I first became 
acquainted with the term Cypherpunk, I thought the notion would be 
similar: Who gives a crap what your philosophy is as long as your putting 
out some 'fuck-you-powered' Cryto Apps, or at least emanating SOMETHING from 
that spirit.

This list, at least in the Fraunhoffer region, does on some level emanate a 
Punk attitude, and tolerating the presence of a crypto-fascist or two is 
something of a consequence. But I'm sick of seeing the Tim May cops come out 
every time someone suggests a different political notion.

In the end, if Tim May truly wants to see Crypto Anarchy come about, then 
he should shut up more often and allow any political stripe (whether they 
are 'right' or 'wrong') find their own need for heavy crypto. This can only 
further his stated goals. Being the list's Narc only drives away those that 
might have some very powerful ideas, but who don't necessarily agree with 
the universe May paints.

-TD

Oh, and this isn't meant to be a pure slam. I actually agree with a solid 
percentage of what May writes. And there are issues he does seem to 
understand fairly well (others he THINKS he understands well, too). SO this 
isn't about who is right or wrong on any set of issues. It's about ALLOWING 
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Communique from the Anarchist Black Bloc
It is estimated by UNICEF that since sanctions were imposed on Iraq that 
Iraqi children are dying at twice the rate that they were 10 years ago. 
This statistic is also confirmed by the Middle East Research and 
Information Project, which states that the infant mortality rate has gone 
down by 160%. The same report cites the devastating bombardment of southern 
Iraq by American forces, where most of Iraq's water is taken from and 
sanitized, also having led to an increase in disease. With medical supplies 
blocked from sanctions and a devastated infrastructure, the people of Iraq 
are dying by scores.

The Bush Administration is now prepared to launch a full-scale invasion of 
the country, which will undoubtedly lead to an enormous humanitarian 
disaster and the risk of escalating the violence. The policies that brought 
the American public to horrific incidents such as the September 11th attack 
are being reinforced and expanded upon.

All of this is over oil. It is estimated that Iraq contains 115 billion 
barrels of petroleum reserves, which makes them second only to Saudi Arabia 
in the region. And only because of three decades of western intervention 
and turmoil has there not been an attempt to exploit resources in 55 
untouched oil fields.

We put forth the simple principle that we, the American and Iraqi public, 
are not cannon fodder for oil wars! We also are willing to take whatever 
means are necessary to assert our rights as human beings and remove 
ourselves from the special interests that dominate the American state and 
its policies. We are no longer willing to ignore the responsibility we have 
in the crimes against humanity that are being committed in our name.

At the J26 march in Pittsburgh, an anarchist black bloc contingent broke 
away from the rally at the Software Engineering Institute and marched to 
the Marines Recruitment Center on Meyran St. There we smashed in the door 
of the office and threw paint bombs into the inside with the intent of 
causing as much economic and infrastructure damage to the office as 
possible. Glass was shattered and paint was splattered all along the inside.

Many anarchists think that the state of affairs in the US is of such that 
if the public is to have any rights at all, we must begin to take political 
action outside of the official framework. No evidence of this analysis 
could be greater then when George W. Bush Jr. virtually bullied himself 
into office. The electoral process is run and dominated by corporate 
interests. It is failing to be democratic in any way, and that is not only 
reflected in its process but also its policies. The American socio-economic 
system has not changed much since September 11th. And, the anarchist 
approach to the system has not changed much since November 30, 1999.

There is an increasingly dominant feeling within the anti-war movement that 
if we are going to be serious about securing human rights, here and abroad, 
by stopping the invasion, we are going to have to find new ways of 
political action. It is a privilege to not act upon the most direct means 
at our disposal. Many of us in the anti-war movement feel that it is also 
time to abandon this privilege.

Many anarchists feel that the only way to stop the invasion is to raise the 
domestic costs for the state to pursue it. We can do this through various 
forms of non-participation and economic sabotage. The Marines recruitment 
center has no right to exist. That institution exists primarily for the 
purposes of recruiting politically marginalized people into the ranks of 
the Marines, who then enforce the policies of America's corporate state 
through murder and violence. Its sheer existence is an affront to human 
rights.

We encourage everyone in America to refuse to participate in the invasion 
and find how he or she can directly change the profitability of the war. It 
is also vital that there is support for those who are engaged in 
non-participation and direct action. With these two strategies put into 
practice, we can potentially avert a humanitarian disaster.

The anarchist position has never been something we have been hiding or are 
ashamed to make public. We want social revolution. We want the creation of 
direct democracy in our politics and economics and the destruction of 
authoritarian social institutions. We stand in defense of inalienable human 
rights and will struggle for these principles by any means necessary.

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Nosecones of military planes don't like hammers.

It is sometimes justifiable to damage property if, for example, a door
has to be forced to access a burning house to save life. In relation to
the US war effort intent on killing innocent civilians in Iraq, there is
in a similar way a
legal excuse for non-violent direct action. A legal case of this sort was
won by three women in Britain who damaged a Hawk fighter plane which was
due to kill people in East Timor in January 1996.

Universal Health Care.

Our second goal is high quality, affordable health for all Americans.
The American system of medicine is a model of skill and innovation, with a 
pace of discovery that is adding good years to our lives. Yet for many 
people, medical care costs too much, and many have no coverage at all.
These problems will not be solved with a nationalized health care system 
that dictates coverage and rations care.
Henwood: Instead, we have a very expensive private system that dictates 
coverage and rations care -- to maximize the profits of HMOs.
Instead, we must work toward a system in which all Americans have a good 
insurance policy, choose their own doctors, and seniors and low-income 
Americans receive the help they need.
Zuckerman argues that Bush is omitting a huge problem: State cuts in 
Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Programs. Medicaid provides 
health care for the poorest Americans and CHIP provides health insurance 
for children whose families earn too much to be eligible for Medicaid but 
not enough to afford health insurance. According to the Kaiser Family 
Foundation study, 49 states have planned or implemented Medicaid cuts in FY 
2003, and 32 states are already on their second round of cuts. In order to 
reduce deficits, states are eliminating health care for some of the poor 
adults and children who used to be eligible for Medicaid, requiring 
patients to pay higher co-payments, or reducing the reimbursements made to 
doctors, hospitals, or nursing homes that care for the needy. When payments 
to doctors or hospitals are reduced, it becomes even harder for patients to 
find doctors or hospitals that will treat them. When payments to nursing 
homes are reduced, the quality of care is harmed, and very vulnerable 
elderly patients will die.
Instead of bureaucrats and trial lawyers and HMOs, we must put doctors and 
nurses and patients back in charge of American medicine.
Ida Hellander, executive director of Physicians for a National Health 
Program: Bush says that we do not want a national health program that 
'rations care' and instead want one where they can 'choose their doctors,' 
but a national health insurance would allow people their free choice of 
doctors which is currently very constricted by insurance plans. Of course, 
we currently have rationing by ability to pay -- with 42 million uninsured, 
and medical bills the most frequent cause of bankruptcy after loss of job. 
We already pay more in health care taxes than any other country in the 
world except Switzerland -- this year health care costs will exceed $6,000 
per person. With our level of spending we could have the best heath care in 
the world -- for all -- if we eliminated the insurance middleman. The cost 
of paperwork exceeds $300 billion a year - at least half of which could be 
saved with a simplified national health program.
Health care reform must begin with Medicare; Medicare is the binding 
commitment of a caring society.
We must renew that commitment by giving seniors access to the preventive 
medicine and new drugs that are transforming health care in America.
Hellander: The prescription drug coverage Bush has proposed is skimpy and 
expensive. Seniors could save at least 40 percent on drug costs if they 
were given the same discounts as the Veterans Administration negotiates.
Seniors happy with the current Medicare system should be able to keep their 
coverage just the way it is.
Hellander: The best option is to make drugs a part of Medicare, but the 
drug companies spent over $80 million on the last election to elect Bush 
and others legislators opposed to making drugs a benefit of Medicare. Also, 
the new head of the Senate, Bill Frist, has a $26 million fortune from a 
for-profit hospital corporation (Columbia/HCA, which was recently fined 
$1.7 billion for Medicare fraud) founded by his brother. In fact, Frist 
used his HCA profits to finance his first election to the Senate. So, Bush 
and Frist are beholden to the for-profit medical industry.
Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research: 
Every other industrialized nation has universal health care coverage for 
its citizens. They also have better health care outcomes using measures 
such as life expectancy and infant mortality rates. And, on average they 
pay about half as much per person as the United States does. The president 
is apparently determined to ignore how the health care market works. Health 
insurance companies make money by not insuring people that are going to get 
sick. The insurance companies have proven themselves quite effective in 
dumping less healthy patients, which is why including HMO's in the Medicare 
system has raised costs, as numerous government studies have found. 
President Bush's plans for Medicare do not make sense as health care 
policy. However, they are likely to be quite effective in increasing the 
profits of the insurance industry.
And just like you, the members of Congress, and your staffs

UK Decay.

30 January 2003 ]

Stitched up: How the Big Four accountancy firms have PFI under their thumbs 
(PDF)
Report on the revolving door between UK government and the 'Big Four' 
accountancy firms, illustrating the means by which they simultaneously 
devise and profit from New Labour's privatisation policies ( Unison )
»
See also this press release, this Guardian coverage, this BBC article, and 
this earlier Unison report (PDF)
»
The Big Four are PricewaterhouseCoopers, KPMG, Ernst  Young and Deloitte  
Touche

Competition and Quality: Evidence from the NHS Internal Market 1991-99 (PDF)
'Payer-driven competition has been widely advocated as a means of 
increasing efficiency in health care markets. The 1990s reforms to the UK 
health service followed this path. We examine whether competition led to 
better outcomes for patients, as measured by death rates after treatment 
following heart attacks. Using data on mortality as a measure of hospital 
quality and exploiting the policy change during the 1990s, we find that the 
relationship between competition and some measures of quality of care 
appears to be negative.'
( Carol Propper et al via CMPO )
»
See also this press release (PDF, page 7), this commentary by Polly 
Toynbee, and this blog entry from Monday

Fuel relief for vulnerable 'underfunded by £1.5bn'
Article indicating that UK ministers are suppressing a report on indequate 
funding of fuel relief - 'Britain has one of the worst rates for winter 
deaths among the elderly and poor in Europe. It is estimated that between 
30,000 and 60,000 people die unnecessarily every winter because they do not 
have enough money for fuel or live in draughty homes' ( Guardian )
»
See also this Guardian report from October, this BMJ paper from last year, 
and this text of the Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Act 2000 LINKS?
http://www.hullocentral.demon.co.uk/site/anfin.htm

Ernst and Young,they cook the books for RSA don't they?

Sovereignty issues and Palladium/TCPA

2003-01-30 Thread Peter Gutmann

It looks like Palladium (or whatever it's called this week) is of concern not
just to individuals but to governments as well (the following text forwarded
from elsewhere):

-- Snip --

  Governments would want to explore the implications of the use and
retention of government-held information and use of software for government
business.
  More particularly, governments are likely to want to explore the issues
related to potential foreign control/influence over domestic governmental
use/access to domestic government held data.
  In other words, what are the practical and policy implications for a
government if a party external to the government may have the potential
power to turn off our access to its own information and that of its
citizens.

-- Snip --

Unlike China, not everyone can address this problem by building their own
systems from the silicon on up.

Peter.

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Neil Johnson

On Thursday 30 January 2003 03:25 am, Bill Stewart wrote:

 Remember the Synfuel boondoggles under Jimmy Carter?
 Cracking otherwise-uneconomical oil shale might have been
 a useful technology if the price of oil were $50-100/barrel.
 (Meanwhile, we can feel nice and liberal about leaving all this
 wonderful supply of irreplaceable industrial hydrocarbons for future
 generations.)


I remember when on the way to a river-rafting trip with my Dad, We stopped in 
some little town in nowhere Wyoming to eat. 

Across the road was a HUGE apartment complex built in the late 70's to house 
workers for a shale oil extraction facility. Of course they were abandoned.

The towns folk were still paying off the bonds they floated to pay for the 
streets and sewers that they built to support the hoardes of workers that 
were supposed to move in.

-- 
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Senate votes against TIA funding.

Washington: In a daring attempt to avoid identification by the
Ministry of Total Information Awareness, the Senate resorted to a
voice vote when blocking TIA's funding, hoping that without
a written record, individual Senators might not be caught.

TIA cameras ###.###. and ###.###. [redacted], however,
observed ## of the Senators during the vote, and estimates
are that the voiceprint recognition systems can resolve
the identities of the other ## ungood terrorist sympathizers,
so they can have the impact on their civil liberties explained
more  directly.

--
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNewsstoryID=2101454

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saying they feared government snooping against
ordinary Americans, U.S. senators voted on Thursday to block funding for a
Pentagon computer project that would scour databases for terrorist threats.

By a voice vote, the Senate voted to ban funding for the Total Information
Awareness program, under former national security adviser John Poindexter,
until the Pentagon explains the program and assesses its impact on civil
liberties.

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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?


On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote:

 This is a terribly important point, and failure to understand this
 point is the source of more disagreements than I can count.

 What if everyone thought that way? (Fallacy, as my actions will NOT
 affect the choices of others, a situation most evident in the standard
 Does it make sense to vote in elections? debate.)

False, your actions do effect others. If you didn't believe that why write
your manifesto? Why even get up in the morning?

 If we all started driving electric vehicles, think of how we could
 change the world! (Fallacy, as my choice to drive or not drive an
 electric vehicle will not affect the choices of others, at least not to
 anything more significant than fifth or sixth order.)

Actually it will, Schilling Point, Economy of Scale, Network Effects, etc.

 You didn't factor in the benefit of saving the planet. (Fallacy.
 Saving the planet depends on a lot of things. Spending more for a less
 safe vehicle so as to affect the planet by one part in 10 to the 9 is
 not wise. Plus, the alternative fuels are not all they are cracked up
 to be.)

Every little bit helps. The fallacy in your view is that it assumes
covertly that unless you can make a big change anything else is not worth
anything. You want it all or none.

 As Marshall said, things are what they are. Each actor should act as he
 sees fit. For most of us, this means maximizing returns (maximum
 expected utility, MEU) based on local, immediate choices.

The world is as we make it. Our decisions each and every day change the
way it is. If somebody simply decides not to pull a trigger the world
changes.

 This is often called the Prisoner's Dilemma. Or greed. Or self-interest.

False Comparison.

 But what if everyone thought that way?

Then people wouldn't be people. But the hallmark of people is that they
don't see the world the same way, even when viewing the -exact same
facts-. You fail to factor in opinion, which is based =precisely- on the
way -we want the world to be ideally-.


 --


  We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I
  are going to spend the rest of our lives.

  Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space

  [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.ssz.com   www.open-forge.org

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?


On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:

Well, yes, but the thread is primarily about the destructive effects of
 subsidy. Sort of fantasizing what it would be in a libertarian dream world, I
 guess.




 --
 Harmon Seaver
 CyberShamanix
 http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power


On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, James A. Donald wrote:

 --
 On 30 Jan 2003 at 11:31, Eugen Leitl wrote:
  I'm not arguing pro strong state. I'm merely saying that the
  tax funded ivory tower RD is complementary in scope to
  privately funded research. If 95% of it is wasted (and
  lacking libertarian drive in Euland it's bound to stay that
  way for quite a while), it's still nice to see a percent or
  two to go into bluesky research.

 You will notice a disproportionate amount of blue sky research
 comes from countries that are highly capitalist.  Thus
 Switzerland is roughly comparable to Sweden in size and wealth,
 but we see quite a bit of blue sky research coming out of
 Swizterland, not much from Sweden.

 Since blue sky research is a public good, only governments can
 efficiently produce blue sky research.

No, it doesn't follow at all. It follows that to create advanced
technologies takes resources and skills beyond the capability of small
groups. it's a function of scaling, not politics or authority. You get
cool breakthroughs when you invest sufficient resources, smart people and
access to the very best of tools and resources.

 Does not follow,
 however, that governments *will* efficiently produce blue sky
 research, and on the available evidence, they do not.

'efficiently produce'...what a fuzzy wuzzy, feelgood, spindoctor bullshit
term. There are three way to produce breakthroughs; luck, special insite,
many parallel efforts. The most important factor is the third. The second
will allow you to make leaps but it's up to the vagaries of genetics there
so no organizational issue exists (other than breeding programs perhaps).
Luck is pretty much the same for everyone, be there at the right time,
with the right resources, and recognize it at the time.


 --


  We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I
  are going to spend the rest of our lives.

  Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space

  [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.ssz.com   www.open-forge.org

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power


On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Howie Goodell wrote:

 Tim May wrote:

  For example, the space program. The Moon Flag Planting cost about
  100,000 slave-lives (about $125 thousand milliion in today's dollars) to
  finance. It  distorted the market for things like single stage to orbit,
  which might have happened otherwise. And it created a bureaucracy more
  intent on spreading pork to  Huntsville, Houston, Canaveral, and other
  pork sites. (Surprising that Robert Byrd failed to get WVa picked as the
  control center. He was too junior then, probably.)

 I read that the otherwise unimpressive International Space Station is
 utter genius in one respect:  it has a subcontractor in *every single
 one* of the 435 House member's districts.

Which is a better example than one could hope for the efficiency of a
three party social/economic system. The free market effect at near maximum
efficiency. The folks pushing for more funding should shout this one to
the hills. The ISS touches everywhere. To fail it now is to say we all
failed. And the only -real- meaure of that failure is our will.

The real problem is with the expectations of those who don't understand
the -long term- need for this sort of work. The reality is that if we
don't spend money on space and other cutting-edge tech's the people who
are dying now from starvation and such are dying in vain, and everyone
dies in the geological near term. The Earth can -not- sustain a
technological society. The future of mankind is a space based society that
isn't surface based. That window of opportunity will be about 250 years
and we're about 50 years into it.

To not spend in space is societal suicide.

Ethically the push should be -one way, out-. Personaly, I'd shoot for a
3-way plan; Moon, Mars, Jupiter or Saturn. Involve every country on the
planet that wants to play.


 --


  We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I
  are going to spend the rest of our lives.

  Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space

  [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.ssz.com   www.open-forge.org

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Tim May

On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 08:11  AM, Marshall Clow wrote:


At 9:52 AM -0600 1/30/03, Harmon Seaver wrote:

Also, you didn't factor in the subsidies. Those prices would change 
greatly if
you took away the billions given to airlines recently, and the 100 
years of
subsidies to trucks. Travel times for the trains would be much, much 
better by
now as well. Look at Japan and Europe -- trains work extremely well.

That may be true, but I have to travel in the world as it is, not the 
world as it could be.
--

This is a terribly important point, and failure to understand this 
point is the source of more disagreements than I can count.

What if everyone thought that way? (Fallacy, as my actions will NOT 
affect the choices of others, a situation most evident in the standard 
Does it make sense to vote in elections? debate.)

If we all started driving electric vehicles, think of how we could 
change the world! (Fallacy, as my choice to drive or not drive an 
electric vehicle will not affect the choices of others, at least not to 
anything more significant than fifth or sixth order.)

You didn't factor in the benefit of saving the planet. (Fallacy. 
Saving the planet depends on a lot of things. Spending more for a less 
safe vehicle so as to affect the planet by one part in 10 to the 9 is 
not wise. Plus, the alternative fuels are not all they are cracked up 
to be.)

As Marshall said, things are what they are. Each actor should act as he 
sees fit. For most of us, this means maximizing returns (maximum 
expected utility, MEU) based on local, immediate choices.

This is often called the Prisoner's Dilemma. Or greed. Or self-interest.

But what if everyone thought that way?

Then I'd be a damned fool to think otherwise, wouldn't I? (Catch-22, 
paraphrased)




--Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States
 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the 
blood of patriots  tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787

Re: [DIGRESSION] RE: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Steve Schear

At 09:59 PM 1/29/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:38:11PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
   Diesel, Tim, they run on diesel. Too bad MB won't import any of those 
hi-tech
diesel they make to the US because of the crummy fuel here.

I had an '87 MB 300D terrible-diesel for about 5 years (from new).  It had 
the turbocharger and other related components replaced twice ($1800 market 
value each time).  I sold it as soon as the lease expired.

steve

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread James A. Donald

--
On 30 Jan 2003 at 11:31, Eugen Leitl wrote:
 I'm not arguing pro strong state. I'm merely saying that the 
 tax funded ivory tower RD is complementary in scope to 
 privately funded research. If 95% of it is wasted (and 
 lacking libertarian drive in Euland it's bound to stay that 
 way for quite a while), it's still nice to see a percent or 
 two to go into bluesky research.

You will notice a disproportionate amount of blue sky research 
comes from countries that are highly capitalist.  Thus 
Switzerland is roughly comparable to Sweden in size and wealth, 
but we see quite a bit of blue sky research coming out of 
Swizterland, not much from Sweden.

Since blue sky research is a public good, only governments can 
efficiently produce blue sky research.  Does not follow, 
however, that governments *will* efficiently produce blue sky 
research, and on the available evidence, they do not.

There are several mechanisms that lead companies to produce and 
publish interesting data -- one is to make a name for 
themselves, as in the human genome project, another his that 
they like to employ scientists that have published interesting 
research findings, which means that their scientists want to 
publish interesting research findings. 

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Re: [DIGRESSION] RE: the news from bush's speech...H-power

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:46:00AM -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
 At 09:59 PM 1/29/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:38:11PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Diesel, Tim, they run on diesel. Too bad MB won't import any of those 
 hi-tech
 diesel they make to the US because of the crummy fuel here.
 
 I had an '87 MB 300D terrible-diesel for about 5 years (from new).  It had 
 the turbocharger and other related components replaced twice ($1800 market 
 value each time).  I sold it as soon as the lease expired.

   Really? Those are supposed to be pretty good engines. In fact I'm seriously
contemplating swapping one into my '91 Toyota 4x4 pickup. 


-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com

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Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:05:46AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 
 Actually, VW has a plant making synfuel out of biomass. And we won't have to
  wait long before oil is $50-100 a barrel, it's at $35 right now and world oil
  production will peak this decade.
 
 In the '80's it was obvious that oil production would peak around 1995.
 We've already burned up all the solar energy collected from 140 to 250
 million years ago - the dinosaur model does not fit the amount of oil
 we're actually finding.  There's a lot more oil in the ground (most of
 it may be under the oceans) so the price isn't going to rise that much for
 the next 100 years.

   I'll have to find the studies, but it was the same oil geologists (not
enviros) who used the same model to accurately predict the peak of US oil
production who did the one on world oil production. They couldn't do the world
one until later because they couldn't access stats from the USSR, etc. which
they have now.

 
 That doesn't make biomass a bad fuel, but if it's gonna compete it
 will have to get down to $20/barrel to be a clear winner.
 
 That's a pretty easy decision to make, eh? Ethanol is renewable, oil isn't.
  Ethanol doesn't pollute, oil does. Ethanol doesn't require troops in the Middle
  East, wars, and resultant terror attacks, oil does. Quite simple.
 
 Ethanol pollutes, any hydrocarbon is going to be mixed with N2 and make
 NOx, there's no getting around it with any kind of Otto engine.

   Yes, of course, there's always NOx (although that can largely be dealt with
by cats), but the other stuff, sulfur and particulates, is gone, and there are
no problems whatsoever from things like spills, which are quite catastrophic
even in the short term. Biofuels are also greenhouse neutral. 

(snip)

-- 
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CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com

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Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 01:25:07AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
 
 Remember the Synfuel boondoggles under Jimmy Carter?
 Cracking otherwise-uneconomical oil shale might have been
 a useful technology if the price of oil were $50-100/barrel.
 (Meanwhile, we can feel nice and liberal about leaving all this
 wonderful supply of irreplaceable industrial hydrocarbons for future 
 generations.)

   Actually, VW has a plant making synfuel out of biomass. And we won't have to
wait long before oil is $50-100 a barrel, it's at $35 right now and world oil
production will peak this decade. 

 
 The subsidies for corn ethanol are indicative of the problem with 
 interfering in markets:
 -- someone decided corn good, oil bad!

   That's a pretty easy decision to make, eh? Ethanol is renewable, oil isn't.
Ethanol doesn't pollute, oil does. Ethanol doesn't require troops in the Middle
East, wars, and resultant terror attacks, oil does. Quite simple.


 -- those with a lot of corn, like Archer Daniels,
 sent in their lobbyists to push for this point of view
 
 Bob Dole, Senator from ADM, Republican protector of free markets.
 One reason for corn ethanol instead of sugar ethanol is that that
 the US prices for sugar are artificially kept high with import tariffs
 (and of course with the Cuba embargo), which is also why soda is
 mostly made from corn syrup instead of sugar.
 
   Yes, but importing sugar isn't the answer either. Sugar beets and sorghum
grow fine in the US. The best crop, however, is cattails. However, diesels are
still a better solution, running on a biodiesel/ethanol mix, perhaps.
   The main problem is corporate welfare. Farm subsidies and oil
subsidies. Until that problem is solved, I don't think we'll see any real
solutions, and, unfortunately, the way the world is going, I don't think that
will happen in any of our lifetimes.

  (snip)

-- 
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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 12:41:17AM -0800, Bill Frantz wrote:
 At 12:04 AM -0800 1/30/03, Tim May wrote:
 Sometime I take a bus when my car needs to be repaired. From my house
 to Santa Cruz, a total of 13 miles, it takes a minimum of 80 minutes by
 bus. For a working person, ... as soon as
 they can raise the money, they buy cars. Then that 80-minute each way
 trip drops to 20 minutes. And they can go when they wish, not when the
 bus schedule permits.
 
 I have had one case where taking the train was a big win over driving.  I
 was consulting in San Francisco, about 60 miles from my home.  I found that
 if I rode the train, I could work as I rode, and turn my travel time into
 billable hours. I also avoided the ruinous parking charges in downtown.
 Given those facts, I would have taken the train even if the ticket price
 hadn't been subsidized.
 
   
   Exactly. Trains are great. I currently live 80 miles from both Milwaukee and
Madison. I wouldn't dream of commuting (or moving) to either, but if a train
were available, I'd take a job in either in a flash. And I'd choose a train for
longer trips, over a plane as well -- much more comfortable, safer, no bullshit
with security, etc. I also really like what they do with buses in Portland, OR
-- they have platforms for bikes, so you can both bike and bus around the city.
Yes, there's some unpleasant folks on buses, but there are on the street as
well. 
   The fact is that if trucks hadn't received such a huge subsidy via the public
highway system, trains would be self sufficient. Same with airports for the
airlines.  


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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Marshall Clow

At 8:48 AM -0600 1/30/03, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 12:41:17AM -0800, Bill Frantz wrote:
 At 12:04 AM -0800 1/30/03, Tim May wrote:
 Sometime I take a bus when my car needs to be repaired. From my house
 to Santa Cruz, a total of 13 miles, it takes a minimum of 80 minutes by
 bus. For a working person, ... as soon as
 they can raise the money, they buy cars. Then that 80-minute each way
 trip drops to 20 minutes. And they can go when they wish, not when the
 bus schedule permits.

  I have had one case where taking the train was a big win over driving. 
[snip]  
   Exactly. Trains are great. I currently live 80 miles from both Milwaukee and
Madison.

I recently had to travel from San Diego to San Francisco.
I investigated three options (all times are door to door)
1) Flying - about 4 hours - $95 round trip.
2) Driving - about 8 hours - $60 round trip
3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip.

Help me out here - why would I take the train?
-- 
-- Marshall

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2003-01-30 Thread Jane's News Briefs

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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Marshall Clow

At 9:52 AM -0600 1/30/03, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:32:10AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote:
 [snip] 
Exactly. Trains are great. I currently live 80 miles from both Milwaukee and
 Madison.

 I recently had to travel from San Diego to San Francisco.
 I investigated three options (all times are door to door)
  1) Flying - about 4 hours - $95 round trip.
  2) Driving - about 8 hours - $60 round trip
  3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip.

 Help me out here - why would I take the train?

  Comfort, for one. Vastly greater comfort, no hassles with airport thugs, etc.

The car is better than the train for that. There were three of us in the car,
and we could stop and eat whenever we wanted - with a much bigger choice
of food than the train offers. (Mmm, Harris Ranch)
[ And since there were three of us, my share of the travel expenses was $20! ]

Look again at the times - the train is less than 1/2 the speed of driving.
I've taken that train a couple times, as an adventure. These days, I have
better things to do with my time. (Playing with my kids, for example)

Also, you didn't factor in the subsidies. Those prices would change greatly if
you took away the billions given to airlines recently, and the 100 years of
subsidies to trucks. Travel times for the trains would be much, much better by
now as well. Look at Japan and Europe -- trains work extremely well.

That may be true, but I have to travel in the world as it is, not the world as it 
could be.
-- 
-- Marshall

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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread mfidelman

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Bill Frantz wrote:

 I have had one case where taking the train was a big win over driving.  I
 was consulting in San Francisco, about 60 miles from my home.  I found that
 if I rode the train, I could work as I rode, and turn my travel time into
 billable hours. I also avoided the ruinous parking charges in downtown.
 Given those facts, I would have taken the train even if the ticket price
 hadn't been subsidized.

My favorite has always been the overnight train from Boston to Washington
(a trip I used to take fairly often).

To make a morning meeting the choices were (are):

- leave home around 6 for an 8pm or so flight, get in late, deal with
airport transportation, stay at a hotel

- leave home REALLY early in the morning to catch the first flight out

- go into Boston, have a nice dinner, take the train leaving around 10pm,
pay for a sleeper, wake up and watch the sunrise over Chesapeak Bay, have
breakfast brought to my compartment, get into Union Station around 7am,
hop the subway (note: you can also get off at BWI airport, if you have
business north of DC)

It's a great time-saver, and the cost ends up being about the same as a
plane, plus hotel, plus cabs or a rent-a-car.

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Marshall Clow

At 11:12 AM -0500 1/30/03, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:32:10AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote:
  3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip.
 
  Help me out here - why would I take the train?

Recently I went from DC to SF. It took about five hours of flight time
each way on JetBlue, which sells round-trip direct tickets for
$200. It was very pleasant.

I could take the train next time. Amtrak assures me that I could leave
on Jan 30 and arrive on Feb 2 -- three full days of traveling, with
switching trains in New York and Chicago. Oh, I couldn't actually
find a train to SF (Amtrak says no service), so that'll only get me
as far as LA. And it's more expensive.

And don't forget 3 days of train food, and 2 nights of sleeping
on a train.

FWIW, Amtrak goes to Oakland, and there's a shuttle bus that takes
you from the train station to the BART station, which can get
you to downtown SF ;-)

-- 
-- Marshall

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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:32:10AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote:
 [snip]  
Exactly. Trains are great. I currently live 80 miles from both Milwaukee and
 Madison.
 
 I recently had to travel from San Diego to San Francisco.
 I investigated three options (all times are door to door)
   1) Flying - about 4 hours - $95 round trip.
   2) Driving - about 8 hours - $60 round trip
   3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip.
 
 Help me out here - why would I take the train?

  Comfort, for one. Vastly greater comfort, no hassles with airport thugs, etc.
Also, you didn't factor in the subsidies. Those prices would change greatly if
you took away the billions given to airlines recently, and the 100 years of
subsidies to trucks. Travel times for the trains would be much, much better by
now as well. Look at Japan and Europe -- trains work extremely well.


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Re: CDR: Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

2003-01-30 Thread Jamie Lawrence

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Bill Frantz wrote:

 I have had one case where taking the train was a big win over driving.  I
 was consulting in San Francisco, about 60 miles from my home.  I found that
 if I rode the train, I could work as I rode, and turn my travel time into
 billable hours. I also avoided the ruinous parking charges in downtown.
 Given those facts, I would have taken the train even if the ticket price
 hadn't been subsidized.

I lived in San Francisco for 10 years. One job I had required me to have
a car so I could get to a data center in San Jose in cases of
emergency (never happened), so I bought a cheap beater. Spent $1000 on
the car, $400 a year on insurance, and about $3000/yr on parking and
parking tickets. It was eventually stolen, and I was incredibly happy
when it was. BART is actually not bad - one can work on the ride. MUNI
is miserable, but it usually works, at least.

I live in Brooklyn now, and feel the same way. Public transport is the
worst way to travel, except for all those others, in dense urban areas.
Renting a car when I need one, or flagging a cab, is so much cheaper and
less bother, I'm still astounded when people I know continue to keep a
car and bitch about it endlessly. (And I don't take jobs involving
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RE: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread B Peterson

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Subject: Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 06:33  PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Jamie Lawrence wrote:

 One of the problems I think is rampant with, for instance, getting
 alternate fuel sources off the ground is that government subsidies
are
 ensuring they don't happen by distorting the market for fossil fuels.

snip

As for Iraq, letting them keep Kuwait in 1990-91 almost certainly would 
have driven the price of oil _DOWN_. A nation like Iraq is more 
interested in pumping than in hoarding, which the Kuwaiti and Saudi 
royal families are perfectly prepared to do (hence OPEC).

The whole purpose of the Gulf War was to take Iraqi oil off the world
market and drive up the price of west Texas crude, wasn't it?

In any case, the solution is simple: it ain't the job of the U.S. 
military to run around the world picking regimes we like and regimes we 
don't like. Let markets clear.

The purpose of the proposed Gulf War II is to capture Iraqi oil supplies
so that the dollar can continue to be the currency used in world oil
transactions, isn't it?

--Tim May
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a 
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also 
into you. -- Nietzsche

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-30 Thread Mike Rosing

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:

Actually, VW has a plant making synfuel out of biomass. And we won't have to
 wait long before oil is $50-100 a barrel, it's at $35 right now and world oil
 production will peak this decade.

In the '80's it was obvious that oil production would peak around 1995.
We've already burned up all the solar energy collected from 140 to 250
million years ago - the dinosaur model does not fit the amount of oil
we're actually finding.  There's a lot more oil in the ground (most of
it may be under the oceans) so the price isn't going to rise that much for
the next 100 years.

That doesn't make biomass a bad fuel, but if it's gonna compete it
will have to get down to $20/barrel to be a clear winner.

That's a pretty easy decision to make, eh? Ethanol is renewable, oil isn't.
 Ethanol doesn't pollute, oil does. Ethanol doesn't require troops in the Middle
 East, wars, and resultant terror attacks, oil does. Quite simple.

Ethanol pollutes, any hydrocarbon is going to be mixed with N2 and make
NOx, there's no getting around it with any kind of Otto engine.  Oil
doesn't *need* to make wars either.  It's just that people with guns
also happen to be oil sellers, and stealing oil is cheaper than buying
it.  We could just buy Iraqi oil and solve a lot of problems all around.

Yes, but importing sugar isn't the answer either. Sugar beets and sorghum
 grow fine in the US. The best crop, however, is cattails. However, diesels are
 still a better solution, running on a biodiesel/ethanol mix, perhaps.
The main problem is corporate welfare. Farm subsidies and oil
 subsidies. Until that problem is solved, I don't think we'll see any real
 solutions, and, unfortunately, the way the world is going, I don't think that
 will happen in any of our lifetimes.

Like I've said before, the key to corruption is to make it work in
your favor.  The Romans, Spanish, French and American empires are all
the same, corruption eventually causes them to collapse.  But people
still live there, with entrenched corruption.

I think our best solution is to escape.  Mars might be far enough away
that we can start a nice civilazation.  But it'll turn corrupt eventually
because that's how humans work.  So we'll need to leave the keys for
future escapes :-)

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:11:36AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote:
 
 Also, you didn't factor in the subsidies. Those prices would change greatly if
 you took away the billions given to airlines recently, and the 100 years of
 subsidies to trucks. Travel times for the trains would be much, much better by
 now as well. Look at Japan and Europe -- trains work extremely well.
 
 That may be true, but I have to travel in the world as it is, not the world as it 
could be.
 -- 

   Well, yes, but the thread is primarily about the destructive effects of
subsidy. Sort of fantasizing what it would be in a libertarian dream world, I
guess.



-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 11:12:17AM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:32:10AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote:
  3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip.
  
  Help me out here - why would I take the train?
 
 Recently I went from DC to SF. It took about five hours of flight time
 each way on JetBlue, which sells round-trip direct tickets for
 $200. It was very pleasant.
 
   Okay, but the thread was, I believe, about the destructive effects of
subsidy. So lets yank back that 20 billion just given to the airlines. How would
your flight have gone then? Would there even be one?
   Yes, we have to live in the world as it is, but it's a bit absurd to put down
Amtrack when the airlines have become by far the most publically funded method
of travel. 
   Amtrack, publically funded? What a joke!


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CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com

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Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?