Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

[Harald]

Ross,

do you see a Terminal window with debugging information in parallel to
the darktable window? If this is not true, run darktable from within a
git bash window to be able to collect all messages.

Download and install git for windows first (https://gitforwindows.org/).

"-d" is the option to show the messages for each subsystem, "-d all" for
everything (supported). -d is never part of a path name.

Take care about "/" or "\" in your path as well. Within git bash
terminal window it is "/" and NOT "\".

Haribo 

Am 12.08.2020 um 04:28 schrieb Ross Tucker:
> Hi Harald:
>
> Thanks for the tip! 
>
> I tried to use it but it still didn't work - still no lighttable import.
> When I click on any of the left side window panes:
> - import
> - collect images
> - recently used collections
> and try to select something, nothing happens.
> When I try to import a directory which has a lot of photo's in it, the
> Windows darktable icon on the bottom of the monitor shows a progress
> bar as part of the icon.  Something is definitely happening in the
> background, but nothing ever shows up in the lighttable image
> collection area.
>
> Thanks for pointing me to darktable command line parameters.  Tried
> the one you suggested, with no apparent luck.  Not sure where my cache
> folder is supposed to reside (yet).
> Ran the cache generating command line feature and it ran for quite
> a while (1.1.3. darktable-generate-cache binary) but still nothing
> shows up in the  lighttable  area.
> I did find a cache related directory at:
>     C:\Program
> Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187
> which has 31 files in it ranging from a low of 6 kB to a high of  439 kB.
> I then ran a variant of your suggestion:
>     darktable --cachedir C:\Program
> Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187  -d lua
> -d opencl -d perf -d sql
> which then gives me the error message of:
>     
> image.png
>
> changed the command line to:
>     C:\Program Files\darktable\bin>darktable  --cachedir
> .\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187   -d lua   -d opencl   -d
> perf   -d sql
> and it ran without an error message but without any different
> results.  It generated a subfolder in the cache folder "-d" and
> basically repeated all the same files in it.
>
> As I mentioned earlier, I can RMB on a file using Windows Explorer and
> choose to open with darktable, but none of the files ever show up in
> the lighttable view.
>
> Not sure what next to try.
>
> Thanks again for your suggestions.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Ross Tucker
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:56, Harald  <mailto:mj...@email.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ross,
>
> I recommend using a start option to enable debugging mode to help
> better understand what is really going on here...
>
> For example I start darktable like this :
>
> c:/tools/.../darktable/bin/darktable --cachedir c:/... _-d_ lua -d
> opencl -d perf
>
> Related help can be retrieved here:
>
> 
> https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters
> 
> <https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters>
>
> Regards
>
> Haribo
>
> Am 11.08.2020 um 08:05 schrieb Ross Tucker:
>> Hi Terry:
>>
>> I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
>> downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
>> reinstalled again.
>> tried again.
>> still NG.
>> Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
>> I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it
>> recurse directories, but still NG.
>>
>> Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but
>> lighttable is still a no-go for me at the moment.
>> I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer,
>> but of course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour
>> tags, etc.) from lighttable.
>>
>> Glad it's working for you though.
>>
>> rss
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:13, Terry Pinfold > <mailto:tpinf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ross,
>>      I just installed it on my windows computer. Followed the
>> instruction to let DT upgrade the database. Then imported a
>> new folder and it was fine. I look forward to exploring the
>> improved features and options. No problems yet. 
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:05, Ross Tucker
>> mailto:ross.tuc...

Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

[Harald]

Hi Ross,

I recommend using a start option to enable debugging mode to help better
understand what is really going on here...

For example I start darktable like this :

c:/tools/.../darktable/bin/darktable --cachedir c:/... _-d_ lua -d
opencl -d perf

Related help can be retrieved here:

https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters

Regards

Haribo

Am 11.08.2020 um 08:05 schrieb Ross Tucker:
> Hi Terry:
>
> I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
> downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
> reinstalled again.
> tried again.
> still NG.
> Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
> I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it recurse
> directories, but still NG.
>
> Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but lighttable
> is still a no-go for me at the moment.
> I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer, but of
> course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour tags, etc.)
> from lighttable.
>
> Glad it's working for you though.
>
> rss
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:13, Terry Pinfold  > wrote:
>
> Hi Ross,
>      I just installed it on my windows computer. Followed the
> instruction to let DT upgrade the database. Then imported a new
> folder and it was fine. I look forward to exploring the improved
> features and options. No problems yet. 
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:05, Ross Tucker  > wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after
> running V 3.0.2 since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2
> had problems and limited some of the edits I could do but I
> still could use it.  3.2.1 has edited one file so far so that
> was nice.  I went to import a folder full of my latest  NEF
> images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file
> into lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can
> still go to  windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open
> with -- darktable and the image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt
> that I'm doing anything wrong but . . .
>
> Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an
> excellent editor and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with
> learning the edit functions and features, tips and tricks.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Ross Tucker
>
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Is it possible to change the path for the 'disk backend for thumbnail cache' ?

[Harald]

Hi,

yes and no.

Yes - pointing darktable on startup to a new chachedir is working but
resulting in an empty thumbnails cache.

I can move the old ones ...

No - because starting darktable-generate-cache then creates all the
thumbnails from scratch in the old and not the new directory.

Fixed this with the core option for darktable-generate-cache.

To summarize, it seems that the change in the path for the cache
directory is not persistent

I have to point to that directory on each start of darktable itself or
of darktable-generate-chache.

Haribo M

Am 3/18/2019 um 10:53 AM schrieb Jim Robinson:
> Hi,
>
> This is possible from the command line.  See:
>
> https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 09:27, Harald  <mailto:mj...@email.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am using darktable 2.6.1 + windows 10
>
> and I recently figured out that my 'disk backend for thumbnail cache'
> has been frequently deleted (due to its path and by windows cleaners).
>
> Assuming that the disk backend speeds up the usage of lighttable view,
> is it possible to change the path for the 'disk backend for thumbnail
> cache' and move it away from this temporary internet files path?
>
> Thanks for any idea and your help, Best Regards
> Haribo M
>
>
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[darktable-user] Is it possible to change the path for the 'disk backend for thumbnail cache' ?

[Harald]

Hi,

I am using darktable 2.6.1 + windows 10

and I recently figured out that my 'disk backend for thumbnail cache'
has been frequently deleted (due to its path and by windows cleaners).

Assuming that the disk backend speeds up the usage of lighttable view,
is it possible to change the path for the 'disk backend for thumbnail
cache' and move it away from this temporary internet files path?

Thanks for any idea and your help, Best Regards
Haribo M



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Re: [darktable-user] New 2.6.0rc2 Windows build

[Harald]

Pascal,

I installed 2.6.0 R2 windows and it is running.

2 quick findings so far:

- in the map mode "find location" is not available / working

- "collect images" works only by selecting from the combo box selection
and the provided tree, I can not type into the text field at the right
to the selection buttons but I can paste something in there

Best regards
Haribo

Am 19.12.2018 um 11:29 schrieb Pascal Obry:
> Hi Harald,
> 
>> I would like to try but I can not figure out how to install darktable
>> 2.6.0. rc2 in parallel to my production system using darktable 2.4.4. on
>> windows 10.
>>
>> Deciding not to delete the old version ends the installer ...
>>
>> Any idea?
> 
> That's indeed not possible. The only option is to move to RC2 and then
> you *cannot go back* to 2.4. So I advise that you do all necessary
> backup (library.db data.db...) not sure where all those are on Windows
> though.
> 
> Best,
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Re: [darktable-user] New 2.6.0rc2 Windows build

[Harald]

Hi Pascal,

I would like to try but I can not figure out how to install darktable
2.6.0. rc2 in parallel to my production system using darktable 2.4.4. on
windows 10.

Deciding not to delete the old version ends the installer ...

Any idea?

Haribo

Am 17.12.2018 um 17:51 schrieb Pascal Obry:
> Hello,
>
> A new version for Windows is available on GitHub. It fixes the crash on
> machine without AVX2 support.
>
> Thanks to Peter for the new build.
>
> Try it!
>

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Re: [darktable-user] How to (or can I) narrow down the lighttable history search rule by a given used module?

[Harald]

Lorenzo,

thank you for the solution. I think I understood the idea behind.

It took some time to search for WIN 10 equivalent tools and all the
translations for the related darktable module names.

One problem with removing a deactivated module is the fact, that it is
visible but deactivated in the history stack but no longer attached to
the active module group. Therefore I have to find it, what I personally
think is not too logic at all.

In other words, used but deactivated modules should stay in the
activated modules group.

Haribo M

Am 22.07.2018 um 13:01 schrieb Lorenzo Bolzani:
> 
> I doubt this is an existing functionality. If you are comfortable with
> shell programming you could try this:
> 
> 
> - Go into core options and enable: "look for updated xmp files on startup"
> 
> https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/core_options.html
> <https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/core_options.html>
> 
> This will make the next startup very slow and may find other "out of
> synch" xmp files around. It won't make any changes unless you say so later.
> 
> - close darktable
> 
> - grep the xmp files to find the ones with the module
> 
> - use xmlstarlet or something like that to add a "darktable tag"
> ("dc:subject" block) or a color ("darktable:colorlabels")
> 
> Of course do this on a couple of test files first and triple check the
> result. Have the script making a backup copy of the xmp too (only if a
> backup is not already there).
> 
> - start darktable and choose to reload the recently modified xmp files
> from the dialog you'll see
> 
> - now you can search and sort your files from darktable
> 
> - now you can disable the "look for updated xmp files on startup"
> 
> 
> If you want something simpler, from the root of all your images folders:
> 
> mkdir xmp_export
> 
> grep -lr --include="*.xmp" 'darktable:operation="YOUR_MODULE"' | sed
> 's/.xmp//' | xargs -I% bash -c "cp --parents %* xmp_export/"
> 
> 
> This will find all the matching xmp and corresponding images and copy
> them into the export folder (keeping the folder structure). It's a
> different thing, but if you just want to have a quick look at the
> situation this will work.
> 
> 
> One last thing, to "remove" a module from DT history I do this, similar
> to what Remco wrote:
> 
> - deactivate the module
> - compress history
> - select the history line just below the deactivated module (the second one)
> - compress history
> 
> yes, it's horrible.
> 
> BTW, I think compress history should do this automatically (I mean
> removing modules that are off).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bye
> 
> Lorenzo
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-07-22 11:26 GMT+02:00 Harald mailto:mj...@email.de>>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was trying / using far too many modules in the past.
> 
> Today I would like to find all my images using a specific module
> (several modules and hundreds of images, to be honest).
> 
> What do I need to do to find all my current images using a specific
> module? I would like to have this search (image list) for later removing
> a specific module from all related images?
> 
> Can I therefore narrow down the 'history' image attribute or would this
> be a new and - in my understanding -  very helpful extension of
> functionality?
> 
> Thanks for your help and nice weekend
> 
> Haribo M
> 
> 
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[darktable-user] How to (or can I) narrow down the lighttable history search rule by a given used module?

[Harald]

Hi,

I was trying / using far too many modules in the past.

Today I would like to find all my images using a specific module
(several modules and hundreds of images, to be honest).

What do I need to do to find all my current images using a specific
module? I would like to have this search (image list) for later removing
a specific module from all related images?

Can I therefore narrow down the 'history' image attribute or would this
be a new and - in my understanding -  very helpful extension of
functionality?

Thanks for your help and nice weekend

Haribo M


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[darktable-user] darktable WIN 2.4.3 import bug - WORKAROUND -

[Harald]

Hello,

as the number of tickets regarding this import bug is still increasing
(12154, 12161, 12163, 12177 ... to name a few concurrent tickets), here
is how it 'works':

A) copy the path you want to import from

B) paste this path into the right side of the import dialogue window
(file selector dialog)

and here we go!

It changes the path and the import works.

Regards

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Aw: [darktable-user] Problem with version 2.4.3

[Harald]

I am having the same trouble using darktable 2.4.3 and Win 10.

Help would be more than welcome.

 

Thanks and Regards

Haribo M

 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. April 2018 um 15:38 Uhr
Von: "Robert Barclay" 
An: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Betreff: [darktable-user] Problem with version 2.4.3

Help,
        After updating to the new Darktable version (2.4.3 Windows 10), I can no longer access images or folders on external drives (or even the local disk). When I navigate to import, the "import image" or "import folder" dialog box appears, but nothing happens when I click on any of the icons for hard disk drives. Had no problem with previous versions...

 

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Rob Barclay 

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Re: [darktable-user] history stack still containing disabled modules after compression - why?

[Harald]

I do think I am talking about a 3. type of use cases...

There are for sure many reasons or use cases why not to remove a
disabled module during the photo processing work flow.

My point is, that at a final step, at the end of the work flow, all the
selections and decisions have been made already. Then and only then I do
want to do the final compress and clean.

At that point in time a remove of unused or disabled modules would be
very helpful.

Only this clean stack might be the basis for a new style or used for
copying further.

Not arrived yet at this final step, in between or during the work flow,
there is no need for removing the entries for disabled modules...

... and at that time no need to compress the history stack but at the
end of the process.

Haribo M
Am 01.02.2018 um 16:46 schrieb Remco Viëtor:
> On jeudi 1 février 2018 15:18:27 CET Matthew Harrison wrote:
>>  Why would compress history stack do that? It shouldn't be too hard to
>> check if a module is in the default list and leave disabled copies of those
>> when cleaning up whilst removing the others.
>>
> The current implementation of "compress history stack" has one important 
> propery: it does /nothing/ that influences your edit session, it only removes 
> modules that cannot have an effect. Removing modules that are turned off 
> breaks 
> that.
>
> Use case: you want to use e.g. equaliser or profiled denoise, perhaps with 
> some 
> parametric or user mask. Good, no problem, just a bit time consuming to set 
> up 
> to your liking. Then you want to convert to black and white, or play with 
> some 
> colour changes. 
> Both equaliser and profiled denoise are quite slow (imply a lot of 
> calculation). So while you want to play with the conversions, it can be nice 
> to turn those two off.  
> But after playing with colour conversions, you can end up with a lot of 
> unused 
> modules in the history, 
>
> So please leave modules that are just turned off in the stack on compressing.
> Perhaps add an option to remove all unused modules (unused == unreachable or 
> turned off).
>
> Remco
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[darktable-user] history stack still containing disabled modules after compression - why?

[Harald]

Hi,

I don't understand why the history stack still contains - or generally
should contain - disabled modules after stack compression.

I have seen the procedure for cleaning up deselected modules, but it
seems to me to be very complex, especially for multiple deselected
modules within the same stack.

Unfortunately, I have to disable alternative modules again at a later
stage, due to ongoing module comparisons.

Would a global function in Lighttable for compressing and deleting
disabled history stack module entries for a group of selected photos be
a useful extension for darktable?

Any other idea would help to create my own 'clean' styles ... ?

Thanks and Regards

Haribo M


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