[uploaded to chiark]: dump

1996-08-09 Thread David Frey
I've uploaded to chiark:

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Source: dump
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Binary:  dump
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
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Changes: Fixed permission bug and corrected Architecture field. 
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Bug#4072: cpio package is missing rmt.8 manual

1996-08-09 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Package: cpio
Version: 2.4.2-6

/usr/sbin/rmt is a part of cpio, but there is no rmt.8 manual page.
There should be a BSD one that can be appropriated and modified if
necessary.




Bug#4075: Possible security problem with lrzsz

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: lrzsz
Version: 0.12a-5

I've not heard from the author wrt my query below.  I'm filing this
bug to make sure that this issue gets checked rather than forgotten.
Thank you for your attention.

Ian.

Mike Neuffer writes (Re: lrzsz ? Re: forwarded message from CERT Bulletin):
...
 I'm not the author, but lrzsz is almost identical to the normal rzsz 
 implemetation the only difference is that it gives more status information.
 The diff itself is rather small.

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Subject: lrzsz ? Re: forwarded message from CERT Bulletin

CERT write:
 Topic:  Trojan Horse vulnerability via rz program
...
  All existing versions of the rz program (a program for receiving
  files over serial lines using the Z-Modem protocol) are equipped
  with a feature that allows the sender of a file to request the
  execution of arbitrary commands on the receiver's side.  The user
  using rz does not have any control over this feature.
 
  The workaround is to have rz never execute any command, and
  always pretend a successful execution.

The version we distribute is called `lrzsz', and I suspect it is a
different version.

Nevertheless I'd appreciate it if the author could confirm that the
command execution feature is disabled.

Ian.
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CERT(sm) Vendor-Initiated Bulletin VB-96.12
July 30, 1996

Topic: Trojan Horse vulnerability via rz program
Source: FreeBSD, Inc.

To aid in the wide distribution of essential security information, the CERT
Coordination Center is forwarding the following information from FreeBSD, Inc.
FreeBSD, Inc. urges you to act on this information as soon as possible.
FreeBSD, Inc. contact information is included in the forwarded text below;
please contact them if you have any questions or need further information.


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FreeBSD-SA-96:17Security Advisory
Revised: Tue Jul 16 21:44:54 PDT 1996   FreeBSD, Inc.

Topic:  Trojan Horse vulnerability via rz program

Category:   ports
Module: rzsz
Announced:  1996-07-16
Affects:All FreeBSD ports collections released before 2.1.5-RELEASE
Corrected:  ports collection as of 1996-07-06
Source: rzsz shareware package
FreeBSD only:   no

Patches:ftp://freebsd.org/pub/CERT/patches/SA-96:17/

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I.   Background

 All existing versions of the rz program (a program for receiving
 files over serial lines using the Z-Modem protocol) are equipped
 with a feature that allows the sender of a file to request the
 execution of arbitrary commands on the receiver's side.  The user
 using rz does not have any control over this feature.

 The workaround is to have rz never execute any command, and
 always pretend a successful execution.

 All FreeBSD users are encouraged to use the workaround provided.
 Since the intent of the Z-Modem protocol is to provide a reliable
 connection between systems of a vastly different architecture,
 the execution of local commands at request of the sending side
 cannot even be considered a useful feature at all.


II.  Problem Description

 The Z-Modem protocol specifies a mechanism which allows the
 transmitter of a file to execute an arbitrary command string
 as part of the file transfer.  This is typically used to rename
 files or eliminate temporary files.  A malicious trusted sender
 could send down a command that could damage a user's environment.


III. Impact

 The rzsz package is an optional port that made be installed on
 some FreeBSD systems.  This program is not installed by default.
 Systems without this program are 

Bug#4073: make pattern rules delete intermediate files

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: make
Version: 3.74-11

Given the Makefile below in an empty directory:
 chiark:d make clean
 rm -f t.* u.*
 chiark:d make
 echo bar t.bar
 echo foo t.foo
 echo wombat u.wombat
 echo spong u.spong
 rm t.bar
 chiark:d

We see that the intermediate file used for the pattern rules (%.bar)
is removed by make, and that this doesn't happen if we use suffix
rules.

This is silly.  Consider the dependency graph (a -- b means a is
required to generate b, and b depends on a):
  a -- b --+-- d
  c '
where b and d are automatically generated.

Now if you start with a clean directory and say `make d' make
generates b from a, and then d from b and c.  However, it then deletes
b again.  If you edit c and want to rebuild it has to regenerate b,
and it ends up doing this every time.  This defeats the purpose of
using make, which is supposed to avoid rebuilding files unnecessarily.

This doesn't appear to happen if the rules involved are ordinary
targets, only if they're pattern targets.

I can't find any documentation about this `feature', and there doesn't
appear to be a way to turn it off.

Ian.

PS: You may need to put this Makefile through `unexpand' to put the
tabs back.  It has them now when I send the message, but tabs are
notorious for being mangled.

.SUFFIXES:
.SUFFIXES: .spong .wibble .wombat

all:t.foo u.spong

%.foo:  %.bar
echo foo $@

%.bar:
echo bar $@

.spong.wibble:
echo wibble $@

.wombat.spong:
echo spong $@

u.wombat:
echo wombat $@

clean:
rm -f t.* u.*




Bug#4074: problems with 1.1 release

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.1

Scott Barker writes (Re: problems with 1.1 release):
...
 ok. Although, I beg to differ about the *.conffiles:
 
 ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.conffiles
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/adduser.conffiles
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/at.conffiles
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/base.conffiles
 [etc]

Oops, this is a bug.  I'll fix it some time (it's just some wasted
space - there are no real problems with it).

Ian.




master.debian.org up

1996-08-09 Thread Bruce Perens
Simon Shapiro had a family disaster and is out of the office. Mike
Neuffer talked a non-technical i-connect employee through rebooting
master. Please upload your packages.

Thanks

Bruce




Bug#4077: perl bug

1996-08-09 Thread James D. Freels
Package: perl
Version: 5.003-2

I get the following error messages every time perl starts up
on my debian-linux machines (perl and return with do it!)
This is the current perl-5.003 release.  Any idea how I can
rid my system of this problem?  (The perl scripts all run 
fine, I am not that familiar with perl).

warning: setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ) failed.
warning: LC_ALL = (null), LC_CTYPE = (null), LANG = de,
warning: falling back to the C locale.

I took the advice of a couple of individuals from queries to
debian-users mailing list:

(1) installed wg15_locale_1-1

(2) confirmed that the latest version, perl_5.003-2, was installed

This did not fix the problem.  I have verified that the
/usr/share/locale and /usr/share/nls directories (from wg15_locale)
are present and full.

I think there may be something missing in the configuration of either
perl or wg15_locale, hence, I have reported this bug.

I also just reran perlconfig just to make sure that it is configured
as designed.  I can produce the error message anytime perl is
executed, for example, perl -v will produce the error message.
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Bug#4076: shadow-package (not a deb-format-archive)

1996-08-09 Thread Michael Gaertner
Package: shadow
Version: 960530-1

with dpkg 1.2.13elf:

./shadow_960530-1_i386.deb

prints:
dpkg-deb: 'shadow...' is not a debian format archive

Michael Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel/Fax +49-761-32684





Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes (Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with 
it):
 Ian Jackson writes:
...
  Hmm.  Why is it necessary for gcc to know which version of cpp is
  available, or for it to have exactly the right one ?
 
 Would you want the front-end driver (gcc) to use different versions of
 cpp and cc1/cc1plus?

Forgive my naivete', but I don't see why it should matter.

Ian.




Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: lyx, ftp.debian.org
Version: 0.9.28-1

This package depends on a non-free package (xforms).
It should be in contrib, not in the distribution proper.

Ian.




Bug#4064: sendmail should recommend deliver, not depend

1996-08-09 Thread Lukas Nellen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 You (Michael Shields) wrote:
...
  perfectly without deliver.  sendmail should only recommend it.
 
 And as a result you can install sendmail without deliver and your
 mail installation won't work at all..

One could introduce another virtual package (e.g., local-mail), have sendmail 
depend on this. Both procmail and deliver could provide this package. Sounds 
like a bit of an overkill for this problem, though.

 Sendmail should come with mail.local instead of deliver IMHO.

I think that is the simpler and better solution.

Cheers,
Lukas
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Bug#4079: compress-package should be in `contrib'

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: compress-package, ftp.debian.org
Version: 1.0.1-1

This package is only an installer for a non-free piece of software.
It should be in contrib, not in the distribution proper.

Ian.




Bug#4056: mouse cursor in X3 server is cross-eyed

1996-08-09 Thread Mike Coleman
   Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:45:27 -0400
   From: Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Package: xserver-s3
   Version: 3.1.2-5

   When in the 640x480 mode, the mouse cursor points incorrectly.  The
   point at which the cursor appears to point is not where the mouse
   button selects when you push the key.  I have not tested other video
   resolutions with this card.

   The X server thinks it is pointing approximately 8 pixels to the left
   of where the mouse cursor appears to be pointing.

Have you played with the invert clock and early sc buttons of 'xvidtune'?  My
card (#9 motion 771) showed this behavior before I configured it correctly.
Maybe you've also got a config problem here.

--Mike




Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Ian Jackson:
 We then end up with two files per package, and it then makes even more
 sense to move the copyright file.

$ ls /usr/doc | wc
101 101 703
$ ls /usr/doc/copyright | wc
243 2431804
$ 

On my system, /usr/doc would be almost two and a half times bigger, with
all new directories containing only two files (copyright and changelog).
I'm not sure that is a good idea, though I'm not sure it is a bad one,
either.

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Bug#4082: No documentation for fvwm modules

1996-08-09 Thread Larry Gilbert
Package: fvwm
Version: 1.24r-24

Documentation for the fvwm modules appears to be missing from this
package.

[Insert obligatory renewal of the fvwm-package-relying-on-fvwm2-package
debate here.]  :-)

I only noticed this because I tried to look up information on GoodStuff.
This module appears to be available only in the fvwm package, and
consequently there is no corresponding documentation in the fvwm2
package.  (There appears to be an otherwise full complement of Fvwm* man
pages in the fvwm2 package.)

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seattle, WA, USA
I speak only for myself and not for my employer




Bug#3951: kernel-image-2.0.7-0 postinst looks for /bin/perl

1996-08-09 Thread Graham Williams
Frank Neumann wrote to Graham Williams on 08 Aug 1996 03:11:32 +1000:

Graham My vanilla installation of Debian 1.1 seems to have perl
Graham only in /usr/bin/perl.

Frank I noticed this too, after having built a base.tar.gz for
Frank Debian on m68k.  The bug is not in kernel-headers, but in
Frank boot-floppies, which failed to create the link for the base
Frank system. boot-floppies-1.1.1.10 fixed it.  The bug report
Frank should be closed (I won't do that, I'm not the maintainer
Frank ;-), but a new base should probably be built.

Thanks for the information.  Checking the various Debian and Dpkg
documentation seems to imply that all scripts should refer to
/usr/bin/perl rather than /bin/perl.  Not sure if it rates as a bug
though if the scripts of a package don't.

Cheers




Re: elm problems

1996-08-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 8 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg)  wrote on 05.08.96 in [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:
 
  You (Dale Scheetz) wrote:
   No! Not a typo. This is the only difference between what gets executed
   when debian.rules calls for a make, and when I call for the same make.
  
   The line in the Makefile is:
  
 cd lib; $(MAKE) $(MJ) -(MAKEFLAGS) all
 ^
  Could it be that there is a `$' missing there just before the `(' ?
 
   There is no definition of MAKEFLAGS in debian.rules, or in the Makefile.
  
   Does the shell set it when debian.rules runs?
 
  Dunno..
 
 Doesn't make set that one?
 
Well, the question is, why does it set the value to 'w' when debian.rules
calls the make, but not when I call make from the prompt?

TIA,

Dwarf

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Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
Ian Jackson writes:
   I do, however, think we should move the examples directory.  I've
   always thought the distinction between /usr/doc/package and
   /usr/doc/examples/package was arbitrary.  It usually leads to the
   obtuse arrangement where the example is in one directory and its
   accompanying documentation is another.
  
  Indeed.  I've put this in the new policy manual.

Should we keep a link from /usr/doc/package/examples to
/usr/doc/examples/package to help transition, or is it unnecessary?

Yves.




Bug#4057: compress package install additional zcat

1996-08-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
  
  There should be one zcat and it should always be gzip.  This won't
  break anything as gzip understands .Z files...
  
  Making zcat point to compress even sometimes will definitely break
  things; IME much of the Linux world has been assuming it's gzip for a
  number of years.  That seems unlikely to change.

Ok, I've corrected that: I build a package without any of the commands
provided by gzip.

  compress is obsolete software; there's never any need to use it to
  uncompress things.  Indeed, my experience (err, on Sunos rather than
  Linux, so this may not be relevant) is that gzip is much more reliable
  even at uncompressing .Z files.  I can't see the need to compress
  things using compress either, as gzip produces smaller output, runs on
  pretty much everything and is free.

Only one need: compress X font files, until someone makes the X font-reading
stuff aware of gzip.

YA.




Bug#4086: rsh segfaults with baudrate=115200

1996-08-09 Thread Christoph Lameter
Package: netstd
version: 2.05-1

RSH does not work with baud rates above 115200.

[miriam]~:stty
speed 115200 baud; line = 0;
eol2 = M-^?; susp = undef; rprnt = undef; werase = undef;
lnext = undef; flush = undef;
-imaxbel
tab3
-iexten -echoctl -echoke
[miriam]~:rsh aaron
Segmentation fault

Works from any host to any other host.




Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-09 Thread Bruce Perens
Someone:
 IMHO info is a great format.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen)
 Actually, I have just about the same problems with info that you
 have with  lynx - it's ugly, it has a *really* arcane user interface.

*** Project Leader Fiat Power On ***

The unification of Debian documentation will be carried out via
HTML. You should not consider the merits of a particular HTML viewer,
or even the weight of the best of our existing HTTP servers. These things
will change with time, and without effort on our part. Instead, you
should concentrate in providing automatic means to present man files,
info files, and other various forms of documentation to the user. This
can be done at run-time via CGI scripts, or when the documentation packages
are installed. Use existing software where possible. Try to consider disk
space, but having a full documentation system takes priority over that.
A keyword search facility and a unifying set of indices are a high
priority.

Look at what Ray Dassen has done on our web site. That is a really good
start. Now think of the top-level index to Debian documentation coming up
in a web browser when the new user starts the system.

*** Project Leader Fiat Power Off ***

Thanks

Bruce




ae-962-8 uploaded to master.

1996-08-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
I removed the Essential field and added Provides: editor as well as
incorporating the Architecture field correctly.

Date: 08 Aug 96 23:27 UT
Format: 1.5
Distribution: unstable
Priority: Low
Maintainer: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: ae
Version: 962-8
Binary:  ae
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 ae: Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen editor
Changes: Removed Essential field, added provides: editor
Files:
 003994918eabcdb163bea5588ac848ce  31855  base  -  ae-962-8.tar.gz
 5d30a1eaa20c9ba5388f10b48649cf1e  7464  base  -  ae-962-8.diff.gz
 beb504770584b8144f85e11ae62bbb4d  31098  base  required  ae_962-8_i386.deb

Later,

Dwarf

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Bug#4064: sendmail should recommend deliver, not depend

1996-08-09 Thread Richard Kaszeta
One could introduce another virtual package (e.g., local-mail), have sendmail 
depend on this. Both procmail and deliver could provide this package. Sounds 
like a bit of an overkill for this problem, though.

Umm, no.  There are many ways of configuring sendmail, and a number of
these (including one of the supplied configurations) do not require
local mail delivery. Indeed, I've got quite a few debian 1.1 machines
here happily running sendmail without local mail delivery (since I use
a mailhost).

'Recommends' my be appropriate here.  Depends?  Nope.  I can very
easily configure and run sendmail in a sane manner without ever
needing deliver, procmail, mail.local, or such.

Please, don't 'depend' on things unless they are *really* needed.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]   University of MN, ME Dept
http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta





Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'

1996-08-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
 Subject: Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'
 Package: lyx, ftp.debian.org

I assume that the subject is wrong? (Actually, I know it is, but I'm not
sure if it matters for the bug system.)

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Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-09 Thread Erick Branderhorst

 What is the feeling on this ?
 
 Since the new source format mandates the existence of the changelog
 and specifies that it must be in one of a small number (currently 1)
 of formats I'm inclined to say that we should mandate its inclusion -
 gzipped.
 
 We then end up with two files per package, and it then makes even more
 sense to move the copyright file.

If they will go in /usr/doc/package/copyright.gz and
/usr/doc/package/changelog.gz ?  Then this is all right with me.

But a /usr/doc/copyright dir should remain.  The only contents allowed in
there would be generic copyright messages like GPL LGPL BSD and so on. 
Putting these generic files in /usr/doc/base/{GPL,LGPL,BSD} is not wise
IMHO.  Additionally because translated version of the above generic
copyright messages are on the net and it might be usefull to put these
translations there as well.  This specific group of files justify to have a
directory for them selves IMHO.  I don't mind that these are gzipped.

Erick




Bug#4081: xosview doesn't install a binary

1996-08-09 Thread joost witteveen
 
 
 Package: xosview
 Version: 1.3.2-4.1
 
 It's in buzz-updates and
 
 # ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview
 ls: /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview: No such file or directory
 
 After installing the package.

Yes, that's Ians wish. I already corrected Ians error (he uploaded
a known buggy xosview even without mailing me in advance of doing so).

Thanks.

BTW Ian also sent mail to debian-devel saying that this bug was in
  his uploaded version.


xosview-1.3.2-6 doesn't contain this bug.

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Bug#4082: No documentation for fvwm modules

1996-08-09 Thread Austin Donnelly
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Larry Gilbert wrote:

 Package: fvwm
 Version: 1.24r-24
 
 Documentation for the fvwm modules appears to be missing from this
 package.

Yes, that's because although the manpages have changed a little
between the two versions of fvwm, they still have the same names.
This means you can only have one set of manual pages installed.

 [Insert obligatory renewal of the fvwm-package-relying-on-fvwm2-package
 debate here.]  :-)

I have a new version of fvwm2 in preparation, it should be released by
the end of the month.  This introduces an fvwm-common package which
will hopefully silence the debate once and for all :)

 I only noticed this because I tried to look up information on GoodStuff.
 This module appears to be available only in the fvwm package, and
 consequently there is no corresponding documentation in the fvwm2
 package.  (There appears to be an otherwise full complement of Fvwm* man
 pages in the fvwm2 package.)

Thanks for pointing this out: I'd forgotten about the GoodStuff
manpage. I will include it in the fvwm package that I'll release at
the same time as the new fvwm2 one.

In the meantime, I'll leave this bug report outstanding, to remind me
to do this.

Austin




Qmail, smail and sendmail

1996-08-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
I'd like to know if there's a qmail Debian package, and how aliases
work in qmail: the Apache package used to add an alias to /etc/aliases
and then run sendmail -bi (or newaliases).

Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support
being called as sendmail with the -bi option?

The same questions may be asked for smail.

Is the answer is no, can you please email me some doc? And maybe we'll
have to write an install-mail-alias command used by packages script, in
this case.

Yves.




Package priority: Extra/Optional

1996-08-09 Thread joost witteveen
Some time ago, 4th of June, Ian wrote a very clear message
about what the package priorities like Extra/Optional/Required, e.d.
should mean.

I think Ian did a real good job with this message, finally
makeing clear something to me that I've always felt unsure about.

However, in this message, Extra is descirbed with:

   - - In order to get something into Extra it has to conflict with
   existing packages, or be very obscure, or very large, or be useable
   only in very specialised circumstances or for specialised
   applications, or have very complicated configuration requirements.
   Preferably several of those reasons would apply.
   
While this seems very strict to me, and probably would only aply to
one in 20 packages or so, I see on master's unstable/bin/Packages file:
   
   $ grep -i Priority: Extra Packages|wc -l
   179
   $ grep -i Priority: Optional Packages|wc -l
   230
   $ pwd
   /home/ftp/pub/Linux/Debian/unstable/binary-i386

Does this mean that the overrides file should be reworked a lot,
or did I miss something on debian-devel changing the meaning of
Priority: Extra?

(maybe dchanges should be changed to have Optional: as default,
instead of the current extra).

Thanks,

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Re: Package priority: Extra/Optional

1996-08-09 Thread Guy Maor
On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, joost witteveen wrote:

$ grep -i Priority: Extra Packages|wc -l
179
$ grep -i Priority: Optional Packages|wc -l
230
$ pwd
/home/ftp/pub/Linux/Debian/unstable/binary-i386

Most of the extra packages are misfiled.  They were entered into the
package hierarchy before the current uploading mechanism was in place.

I plan to go through the packages, directory by directory, and check
the priorities (and sections).  I'll have this done before 1.2 is
released.

Only appropriate packages are entering extra now.


Guy




mfbasfnt 1.0-5 on master

1996-08-09 Thread Erick Branderhorst

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Binary:  mfbasfnt
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Description: 
 mfbasfnt: TeX's default fonts and a few others.
Changes: 
 Fri Aug  9 15:31:48 1996  Erick Branderhorst  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
* debian.control mentions that we have the original cm fonts
and not broken fonts.
* dc fonts are removed from this package because of copyright
restrictions and can be found in the non-free mfdcfnt package.
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wg15-locale architecture depend?

1996-08-09 Thread Erick Branderhorst

Hi,

is wg15-locale architecture dependend package???
it is uploaded with i386 in it.

Erick




uploaded mfdcfnt 1.0-1 to master

1996-08-09 Thread Erick Branderhorst

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Source: mfdcfnt
Version: 1.0-1
Binary:  mfdcfnt
Architecture:  all source
Description: 
 mfdcfnt: TeX's dc and tc fonts.
Changes: 
 Fri Aug  9 15:54:50 1996  Erick Branderhorst  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
* new non-free package because of copyright
restrictions. Originally these fonts where in mfbasfnt now
they are in non-free mfdcfnt.
Files:
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Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Bruce Perens:
 The unification of Debian documentation will be carried out via HTML. 

I assume the unification won't mean that the native formats aren't 
supported -- they _do_ have benefits.

That said, I fully agree with choosing HTML. Debiandoc, supports on-line
conversions to HTML from man and text, and info2www supports Info (it
isn't really integrated, but it's not really visible). The converters
are configurable.

In addition, I think we should provide texi2html'd documentation in 
addition to Info files. texi2html seems to do a better job than info2www.

 A keyword search facility and a unifying set of indices are a high
 priority.

I don't think we have free software packaged to do full text searches.
We have glimpse and ferret, neither of which is free. There's something
that is part of freeWais, but I haven't looked at it yet. Someone with
the time should find and package one. It should be usable from the
command line so that it can easily be integrated into Debiandoc.

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Bug#4087: xgc dumps core

1996-08-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
Package: xcontrib
Version: 2.1.2-1

marin146# xgc
That test doesn't exist yet.
That test doesn't exist yet.
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  xgc

What I did was:

- select Function orReverse
- select LineStyle DoubleDash

- select (Image Text 16), click Run [gives test doesn't exist]
- select (Text 16), click Run [gives test doesn't exist]
- select Filled Polygons, click Run [okay]
- select Filled Rectangles, click Run [dumps core]

Yves.


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Documentation formats

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
I've just added the subsection below to the draft policy manual.

Bruce, tell me if you want me to say something different.

I'd like to come up with some rather more formal way of distributing
our different documentation formats.  Perhaps we should create a new
subdirectory of the FTP site for packages' PostScript documentation
and upload it separately.

Alternatively we could recommend that if a package can produce
documentation in n formats it should put the HTML in with the package
itself (if it doesn't warrant a separate package) but put the other
n-1 together in a separate package which uses some canonical naming
scheme.  Eg,
 dpkg   - contains the programs and the HTML documentation
 dpkg-docxf - contains the documentation in ps, plain text c
or
 texinfo- contains the Texinfo formatter itself
 texinfo-doc- contains the documentation run through texi2html
 texinfo-docxf  - contains the docs in /usr/info, and as dvi
If we do this we should probably say that if a package produces dvi as
its native format we should ship dvi and not ps.

Ian.

sect1Preferred documentation formats

The unification of Debian documentation is being carried out via HTML.
p

If your package comes with extensive documentation in a markup format
that can be converted to various other formats you should if possible
ship HTML versions in the binary package, in the directory
tt/usr/doc/var/package// or its subdirectories.
p

Other formats such as PostScript may be provided at your option.




Re: Bug#4064: sendmail should recommend deliver, not depend

1996-08-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Richard Kaszeta:
 Please, don't 'depend' on things unless they are *really* needed.

OTOH, if not depending on it will let inexperienced people get easily
in trouble, then by all means do depend on something that isn't strictly
needed. Hackers can use --force.

E = Nu * Tu + Nh * Th

where E is total effort spent solving user problems and answering
questions about Debian, u is inexperienced user, h is hacker, Ni is the
number of questions from class i user, and Ti is average time to answer
question from class i user.

Typically, Tu is about the same as Th, but Nu  Nh, so we want to
minimize Nu.

However, I don't have an opinion on whether Depends or Recommends is the
better solution for sendmail.

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Re: wg15-locale architecture depend?

1996-08-09 Thread llucius
On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Erick Branderhorst wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 is wg15-locale architecture dependend package???
 it is uploaded with i386 in it.
 
I really should be arch independent, but I haven't had a chance to open a 
critter complaint yet.  Maybe this will suffice?  B-)

Thanks for noticing...

Leland

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metamail_2.7-4

1996-08-09 Thread Michael Meskes
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Urgency: Low
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Source: metamail
Version: 2.7-4
Binary:  metamail
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 metamail: An implementation of MIME.
Changes: metamail (2.7-4):
* New maintainer
* Changed debian.rules and debian.control to be architecture
  independent (Bug#3340)
* Corrected richtext to read terminfo database correctly (Bug#4054)
* Replaced csh scripts by contrib versions written for Bourne shell
* Created postinst and prerm scripts to handle installation in
  /etc/mailcap
Files:
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Re: sysv `news' package is unclear

1996-08-09 Thread Dominik Kubla
  Package: news
  Priority: extra
  Section: admin
  Description: System news tool. (System V)
 
 In addition the fact that this description is inadequate (which will
 have been reported automatically a few weeks ago), IMO the package
 name is very misleading - it will make people think the package has
 something to do with USENET.
 
 Unless someone objects I shall report this as a bug, requesting that
 the package be renamed to `sysvnews'.
 
 Ian.
 
I don't see anything gained by this, but i renamed the package to 'sysnews'.
The description bug has been fixed and closed already, but i forgot to upload
the package. Done.

Dominik