Re: sendmail 8.7.5-4 is still a.out?
Hi, I don't have the deb file anymore, so I can't do a contents, but I have a elf sendmail as well. manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[.../debian] dpkg -l sendmail Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge |Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii sendmail8.7.5-4A complex mail transport agent. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[.../debian] file /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[.../debian] ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 235864 May 7 00:44 /usr/sbin/sendmail* -- Manoj Srivastava Systems Research Programmer, Project Pilgrim, Phone: (413) 545-3918A143B Lederle Graduate Research Center, Fax: (413) 545-1249 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/%7Esrivasta/
Re: kernel-package and Lilo
Hi, I now have fixed the postinst script so that it first runs a test using lilo -t /tmp/lilo_log.$$; and then runs lilo proper. If an error occurs, it prints something to the tune of: There was an error with running lilo in test mode, a log is available in file /tmp/lilo_log.39678. Please edit /etc/lilo.conf manually and re-run lilo, or make other arrangements to boot your machine. Please hit return to continue And waits there till you hit return. This should handle most problems mentioned here ... manoj -- Dammit, we're all going to die, let's die doing something *useful*! Hal Clement, on comments that space exploration is dangerous Manoj Srivastava Systems Research Programmer, Project Pilgrim, Phone: (413) 545-3918A143B Lederle Graduate Research Center, Fax: (413) 545-1249 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/%7Esrivasta/
3 Questions
I have 3 problems I would appreciate help with. 1. How does TERM get set? When bash is the login shell for a user, it seems that TERM gets set to linux when logging in from the console. But when I changed my shell to tcsh, TERM no longer gets set to linux as it should. Why? P.S. Is there any advantage to using bash instead of tcsh? Does bash have all the features that tcsh has? 2. I use the following command: # pppd -d -detach /dev/cua1 To establish my ppp link to uni. However I have been finding that often I get a message saying that this job is done, even though the ppp connection has not been broken at the other end. I just run this command again and the link is reestablished, but it is annoying the way it just dies every now and then for no reason. Why? Also, why is there no ppp-off script included with the ppp package? 3. My machine name is destiny, yet I cannot rlogin to my own machine. When I type rlogin destiny I get: destiny.phillips.com.au: No route to host I don't know why it doesn't work. What follows is all the information that I thought might be relevant. I hope someone can help me. My hosts file is: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.1.1.1 destiny.phillips.com.au destiny I have setup my resolv.conf for my uni ppp connection, namely: domain cc.flinders.edu.au search maths.flinders.edu.au cs.flinders.edu.au stats.flinders.edu.au nameserver 129.96.252.31 nameserver 129.96.252.46 nameserver 129.96.1.21 These nameservers are the ones at uni. I would have thought though that doing rlogin destiny would use the lo interface? When I run route I get: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localhost * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 1 lo annex05.cc.flin * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 default annex05.cc.flin 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 3 ppp0 (when not connected via ppp, I only get the first two lines). When I run ifconfig I get: loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-Point Protocol inet addr:129.96.250.55 P-t-P:129.96.250.15 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:552 Metric:1 RX packets:2783 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:4456 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Does anything here seem wrong? I can't work out why it doesn't work as I compared it with my slackware system (which does work) and can't see any significant differences. Thank's in advance for your help. Mark Phillips. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: sendmail 8.7.5-4 is still a.out?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: | |On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Amos Shapira wrote: | | What are the sizes and times on your binary? | |$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail |-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 235864 May 7 14:44 /usr/sbin/sendmail | |$ file /usr/sbin/sendmail |/usr/sbin/sendmail: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, |stripped | | | |[EMAIL PROTECTED]| ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 229376 May 22 16:14 /usr/sbin/sendmail* | | These times and sizes match the ones in the .deb file (do 'dpkg -c | sendmail-8.7.5-4.deb'). | |$ cd /debian/unstable/binary-i386/mail | |$ ls -l sendmail-8.7.5-4.deb |-r--r--r-- 1 root root 563907 May 7 12:16 sendmail-8.7.5-4.deb | |$ dpkg -c sendmail-8.7.5-4.deb | grep sbin/sendmail | |-rwsr-xr-x root/root235864 May 7 14:44 1996 usr/sbin/sendmail | matches what's |installed on my system | | |Weird. | |Two possibilities spring to mind: | |1. yours is dated may 22, mine is may 7. maybe a new version came out which |was accidentally compiled as a.out Then the minor number would have been advanced (= 5 instead of 4), wouldn't it? | |2. your may 22 is referring to 1995, not 1996 and you have an old package |which somehow got renamed to the current release filename. As for the '95 theory, I doubt that since it should have showed the year if it was that old. As for the renaming - maybe. dpkg -I shows: |birnam| dpkg -I sendmail-8.7.5-4.deb old debian package, version 0.939000. ^ |my sendmail-8.7.5-4.deb is from my mirror, which is updated every night. |where did you get your sendmail.deb file from? From tsx-11, as far as I remember (just grabbed things yesterday, but tsx didn't have everything so I took some things from ftp.debian.org). Will try to fetch from another archive. --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous
Re: 3 Questions
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: 1. How does TERM get set? it is set by login(1). P.S. Is there any advantage to using bash instead of tcsh? Does bash have all the features that tcsh has? well, being a LONG time tcsh user, no, bash can't do everything tcsh does. tcsh can do command line spell checking, has a better (IMO) built in ``which'' (it recognizes aliases), amoung other things. but bash will help prevent you from learning bad skills (auto-spell correction only teaches you that you don't have to spell well). and bash is more standard. i highly recommend working with bash rather than tcsh, i switched for a variety of reasons, especially for shell programming. Linus dislikes tcsh a great deal, and also urges not to use it, and there is a rather good FAQ on the dangers of (t)csh programming posted regularly to comp.unix.programmer Also, why is there no ppp-off script included with the ppp package? good question. and why isn't pppd setuid root? if it's a security issue, a ppp group would be in order. jeff --- Why Linux? source code. POSIX. tcpip. job control. support from the authors. drivers for most hardware. because one terminal or process is never enough. forget the other O/Ss, i use Linux- the choice of a gnu generation.
sendmail-8.7.5-4 fixed - bad copy at tsx-11?
Hi, Thanks for the response. Looks like the file I fetched from tsx-11 was bad. Probably a very old copy which was renamed. I got a copy from ftp.debian.org and everything is fine - No a.out files on my system! Cheers, --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous
Ok where are the disks?
Hello, Now i would like to install debian, so where do i get the system ? allan
Re: Ok where are the disks?
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996 09:12:06 -0400 (EDT), ' ALLAN W. BART [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Allan Now i would like to install debian, so where do i get the Allan system ? You get all of this from ftp.debian.org, or one of its mirrors (the message listing the mirrors will be printed when you connect to the site). Debian needs a boot disk, a root disk, and three base disks. Everything else is installed from a local disk partition, or an NFS mounted partition, or from CD, or via FTP (for this you will need dpkg-ftp which I think is in the tools directory). On the WWW site there is a document explaining the installation process. hth, kai -- Life is hard and then you die.
pine 3.94's Copyright
Why is this in non-free? It sounds like they _want_ to be included in linux distributions! What about this copyright is keeping it out of the Debian distribution? I obviously need to familiarize myself with Debian's rules and regs, but it seems strange that this copyright is keeping pine in non-free. included copyright from PINE3.94 --- Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. No commercial use of these trademarks may be made without prior written permission of the University of Washington. Pine, Pico, and Pilot software and its included text are Copyright 1989-1996 by the University of Washington. Use of Pine/Pico/Pilot: You may compile and execute these programs for any purpose, including commercial, without paying anything to the University of Washington, provided that the legal notices are maintained intact and honored. Local modification of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: In order to reduce confusion and facilitate debugging, we request that locally modified versions be denoted by appending the letter \L\ to the current version number, and that the local changes be enumerated in the integral release notes and associated documentation. Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns; (b) In free-of-charge distributions by for-profit concerns; (c) Inclusion in a CD-ROM collection of free-of-charge, shareware, or non-proprietary software for which a fee may be charged for the packaged distribution. UW encourages unrestricted distribution of individual patches to the Pine system. By \patches\ we mean \difference\ files that can be applied to the UW Pine source distribution in order to accomplish bug fixes, minor enhancements, or adaptation to new operating systems. Submission of these patches to UW for possible inclusion in future Pine versions is also encouraged. The above permissions are hereby granted, provided that the Pine and Pico copyright and trademark notices appear in all copies and that both the above copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation, and that the name of the University of Washington not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, prior written permission. This software is made available \as is\, and THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND IN NO EVENT SHALL THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE) OR STRICT LIABILITY, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. -- end copyright from PINE3.94 - Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 201-739-2886, whippany, nj -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ***
Re: Debian 1.1 will include the Linux 2.0 kernel
On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: I see everyone wants to know. Yes, I will include the Linux 2.0 kernel in the latest boot disk set, which will be uploaded this evening. I also have a kernel-image package, although I am not the official kernel maintainer. Could you (or Simon) also upload a bootdisk having g_ncr53c810 *not* as a module? I looked on master.debian.org in buzz/disks-i386 and still found no bootdisk supporting my configuration. Nils -- Coming again: Best quotes of the net. Today: | Nils Rennebarth Kristian Köhntopp [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Schillerstr. 61 I'd also be interested in the comparison [of Linux] | 37083 Göttingen with a cisco router. I assume a factor of about ten.| ++49-551-71626 What? faster or slower? | http://www.nus. Cheaper! | pan-net.de/~nils
Re: pine 3.94's Copyright
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: Why is this in non-free? It sounds like they _want_ to be included in linux distributions! What about this copyright is keeping it out of the Debian distribution? I obviously need to familiarize myself with Debian's rules and regs, but it seems strange that this copyright is keeping pine in non-free. included copyright from PINE3.94 --- The primary reason, is that the version in non-free is 3.93. The major difference that I can see between the 3.93 copyright and the 3.94 one is in the following paragraph: Local modification of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: In order to reduce confusion and facilitate debugging, we request that locally modified versions be denoted by appending the letter \L\ to the current version number, and that the local changes be enumerated in the integral release notes and associated documentation. The paragraph in the 3.93 version reads: We request that any local modifications be denoted by appending the letter \L\ to the current version number, and that the changes be enumerated in the integral release notes and associated documentation. Re-distribution by for-profit organizations requires permission from the University of Washington. It is the last line of this paragraph that lands this package in non-free. If there is nothing else troublesome about the new copyright (Bruce?) you may look for 3.94 as soon as I can get some time to build it. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
cron: does not understand sat-sun
Hi, Something funny happened to my cron utility recently. Cron stopped understanding the following crontab entry: 12 14 * * sat-sun cdplay /dev/null 21 It does however understand: 12 14 * * 6-7 cdplay /dev/null 21 and 12 14 * * sun cdplay /dev/null 21 I also could not find any error messages (even if I leave out the redirection to /dev/null). Syslogd captured the following: Jun 16 14:12:00 boson /usr/sbin/cron[7602]: (derek) RELOAD (crontabs/derek) This seems to coincide with my upgrading to v2.0 (which I built myself using kernel-package-1.03). The package I use is cron-3.0pl1-31.deb. (I removed and reinstalled the package but it does not help.) I have libc-5.2.18, and use bsdutil-3.0-2.deb package. --Derek Lee
Re: Ok where are the disks?
Allan Now i would like to install debian, so where do i get the Allan system ? You get all of this from ftp.debian.org, or one of its mirrors (the message listing the mirrors will be printed when you connect to the site). Debian needs a boot disk, a root disk, and three base disks. or you can use just the first two files, and the base1_1.tgz file, which must be in either / or an immediate subdirectory. IE, if you will keep a dos partition, leave the file in c:\, and mount c:\ as /dos (or whatever) Everything else is installed from a local disk partition, or an NFS mounted partition, or from CD, or via FTP (for this you will need dpkg-ftp which I think is in the tools directory). you no longer need dpkg-ftp; it (or at least enough of it) is included in the 5 disks/ 2disks+file. (note: for versions prior to tomorrows, there are about 5 missing files, so it doesn't work unless you install perl, or add these five files. I manually added them, confirmed that worked, and Bruce is adding them.)
Herculers graphics on debian?
hello, thanks for the assitance folks, i think this should be more fun than reading all of the cue and sams guides-btw, i kind of get the feeling that most of the commerical linux books are a rip-off? so here is the question, can i use hercules monochrome grahics in the text mode on debian, this is to be on my old 386, which has this mode, my compaq persario has svga, and any ideas on how to efficiently use both of these sytems together would be appreciated. the compaq has a relatively small disk and besides i need to put the old northgate to work and running linux is a reeducation project. yours, allan
where's Xforms?
I see that the xforms library is listed in the Packages file under section x11. But, when I look under the x11 subdirectory, I don't see it. Does anyone know what happened to it? Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3 Questions
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Jeffery S. Coy Jr. wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: good question. and why isn't pppd setuid root? if it's a security issue, a ppp group would be in order. I'd say 'because it doesn't neeed to be' is a good justification. If you need to have non-root users execute ppp as root, take a look at the 'sudo' or 'super' packages. They allow you to define commands that can be executed as root by a set of users... without forcing your choice of 'this should be setuid root' programs on all other Debian users. Christian
Debian 1.1 ready for use
Debian 1.1 is available as ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/Debian-1.1 . I will wait 24 hours for the mirror sites to catch up with the last few changes, and will then post the public announcement. Thanks Bruce
Re: Herculers graphics on debian?
There are some #ifdef CONFIG_HGA lines in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/vga.c . I'd be interested in hearing about what happens when you try them. Bruce
xbiff: cannot convert to type Pixmap
I recently upgraded our system to 1.1. Now, when I run xbiff, I get: Warning: Cannot convert string flagup to type Pixmap Warning: Cannot convert string flagdown to type Pixmap And a silly pixmap of shelves or something is shown instead of the mailbox pixmap. I had this same problem on my home system when I upgraded some time ago, but the problem was solved by adding some other packages. I *thought* the packages I needed to add were aout-xpm and xcompat so I installed these packages but it hasn't solved the problem this time. Does anyone know what other package I need to add to make xbiff display the pixmaps properly? Thanks, Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pppd and setuidness (was Re: 3 Questions)
good question. and why isn't pppd setuid root? if it's a security issue, a ppp group would be in order. I'd say 'because it doesn't neeed to be' is a good justification. If you need to have non-root users execute ppp as root, take a look at the 'sudo' or 'super' packages. They allow you to define commands that can be executed as root by a set of users... without forcing your choice of 'this should be setuid root' programs on all other Debian users. Personally I find that the diald package is an excellent way of avoiding this whole issue. However: As someone pointed out last time this came up, when your machine is acting as a PPP server you need to run the pppd as root from a dialin account. One way of doing this (with the commercial PPP with which I am familiar) is to make the pppd setuid root and run it from a shell script which is that user's login shell. (I suppose you could run the pppd directly, but doing it from scripts is more convenient as it allows you to pass arguments to the pppd and set various options on a per-user basis.) One could make the uid of the account zero to achieve this without making pppd setuid, though I can imagine this making people jump up and down about security - can anyone think of an attack on this? - Richard -- http://www.elmail.co.uk/staff/richard/ GCS d- s+:- a-- C++ ULVS+++$ P+++ L++ E++ W(++,--) N(++,+) o? K w--- O? M- V? PS(+,+++) PE Y+ PGP+ t- 5++ X+@ R tv--- b++ DI+ D+ G e++ h r% y++
Re: 3 Questions
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: 1. How does TERM get set? TERM is set from the kernel in init/main.c to linux. init, login, et al, propagaate it. When bash is the login shell for a user, it seems that TERM gets set to linux when logging in from the console. But when I changed my shell to tcsh, TERM no longer gets set to linux as it should. Why? Perhaps your .tcshrc or .cshrc is messing with it. P.S. Is there any advantage to using bash instead of tcsh? Does bash have all the features that tcsh has? Read csh programming considered harmful. Just do a web search and you'll have many hits. # pppd -d -detach /dev/cua1 Use ppd -d /dev/cua1 instead, and your program will go away. Also, why is there no ppp-off script included with the ppp package? There is - /etc/ppp/ip-down 3. My machine name is destiny, yet I cannot rlogin to my own machine. When I type rlogin destiny I get: destiny.phillips.com.au: No route to host 192.1.1.1 destiny.phillips.com.au destiny I would have thought though that doing rlogin destiny would use the lo interface? Look at what you've told it destiny's address was. Guy
Re: pine 3.94's Copyright
Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns; (b) In free-of-charge distributions by for-profit concerns; (c) Inclusion in a CD-ROM collection of free-of-charge, shareware, or non-proprietary software for which a fee may be charged for the packaged distribution. It can't be bundled with proprietary software. That's a not uncommon restriction of packages in non-free. Guy
mc requires gpm
When trying to run mc (Midnight Commander) I get: mc: can't load library 'libgpm.so.1' Gpm is only listed as suggested under mc. However, since mc won't even run without gpm, shouldn't mc be changed to depend on gpm rather than just suggest gpm? Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where's Xforms?
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote: I see that the xforms library is listed in the Packages file under section x11. But, when I look under the x11 subdirectory, I don't see it. Does anyone know what happened to it? It's in contrib. A decision was made that packages without source must go in contrib. I moved it but neglected to rebuild the Packages file. I'll fix that now. Guy
Re: pppd and setuidness (was Re: 3 Questions)
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Richard Kettlewell wrote: good question. and why isn't pppd setuid root? if it's a security issue, a ppp group would be in order. Personally I find that the diald package is an excellent way of avoiding this whole issue. However: i've been using kerneld (and request-route) to do this for some time now, so it really wasn't an issue. i was merely asking a question (since pppd installs itself setuid root when you build your own). jeff --- Why Linux? source code. POSIX. tcpip. job control. support from the authors. drivers for most hardware. because one terminal or process is never enough. forget the other O/Ss, i use Linux- the choice of a gnu generation.
uucp still a.out?
Hi, uucp-1.06.1-2 was a.out some time ago, is there now (as real 1.1 is coming) a ELF version available? The same about pbmplus, cnews and nntp, a2gs, a2ps.. I can't find anything different from my versions on ftp.debian.org, so I suppose there's nothing newer available. Should this be reported as a bug? And, what else is left that need a rebuild as ELF before going official? Maybe the still-aout packages should be marked/listed in some way to avoid confusion... 73, Olaf -- - ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Finger me for ! ! A HREF=http://home.pages.de/~grotto/;click/A ! PGP-public key! -
Re: 3 Questions
Thanks for your help. When bash is the login shell for a user, it seems that TERM gets set to linux when logging in from the console. But when I changed my shell to tcsh, TERM no longer gets set to linux as it should. Why? Perhaps your .tcshrc or .cshrc is messing with it. No - I checked, plus I even removed .cshrc and the problem remained. The strange thing is that TERM is set okay for xterms, but not for linux consoles. Could there be a bug in tcsh? # pppd -d -detach /dev/cua1 Use ppd -d /dev/cua1 instead, and your program will go away. program or do you mean problem? My problem is that this process keeps on terminating prematurely. I get a message saying the job is finished even though I haven't told it to finish and even though the modem link hasn't been broken. I thought that all the -detach option did was to stop the pppd process from detaching itself from the terminal I ran it from. I don't understand why this would solve my problem. Also, why is there no ppp-off script included with the ppp package? There is - /etc/ppp/ip-down But isn't this only executed after the link goes down? How do I tell the link that I want it to go down - that's what I thought ppp-off was for? Also, if I put things like reset the modem in ip-down, won't this happen even when pppd dies prematurely like I mention above (in which case I want to restart pppd rather than resetting the modem.) Thanks again for your help - I appreciate it. Mark Phillips. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: critical :) nethack question
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: Is there a way to open the chests other than kicking them? would this stop the potions from shattering? This is the wrong forum, but you can use a skeleton key or credit card. (clip) Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. A good place to discuss this (or anything really) is debian-talk... That's what it is for... (anything which is not debian only but is debianated ;) If you want to learn about computer programming, the best book to read is Lewis Caroll's Alice in Wonderland -- but that's just because it's the best book to read on _any_ subject. -- fortune cookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.)
Re: 3 Questions
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: No - I checked, plus I even removed .cshrc and the problem remained. The strange thing is that TERM is set okay for xterms, but not for linux consoles. Could there be a bug in tcsh? Maybe - do this on a running tcsh whose pid is xxx: cat /proc/xxx/environ | xargs -0n1 | grep '^TERM=' to see what tcsh was passed as the TERM. It should be the same in the actual shell. Use pppd -d /dev/cua1 instead, and your program will go away. oops - I meant problem. Also, why is there no ppp-off script included with the ppp package? There is - /etc/ppp/ip-down But isn't this only executed after the link goes down? How do I tell the link that I want it to go down - that's what I thought ppp-off was for? Read the manpage for ppp under the signals option. Send it a SIGTERM with for example killall pppd. Also, if I put things like reset the modem in ip-down, won't this happen even when pppd dies prematurely like I mention above (in which case I want to restart pppd rather than resetting the modem.) Use the persist option for this. Guy
Re: X-window keys
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Max Hyre wrote: Martin Alonso Soto Jacome's [EMAIL PROTECTED] answer got to me first: Well, that's exactly what xdm is intended for. xdm tries to keep an xserver running permanently, so that you can always login to the system using a nice graphical login prompt dialog box. ``Oh'', he said in a quiet voice. (I've just started using X under Linux, and hadn't grasped the differences between startx and xdm.) At the time I was tweaking the ModeLines to get the display size best suited to the screen, and thus was starting and killing X constantly. Next time, I'll just use startx, and save myself some hassle. You can also leave xdm running in the background, and start the server manually whenever you want to use X. Remove the line :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X from the /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file, and xdm won't start an X server automatically. You can then use a command like X -query localhost ...to start an X server when you need one. If it's present, it might also be an idea to remove the line xdm-start-server from /etc/X11/config, as if it's present then the X configuration scripts will add the line back to /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers next time you configure or update the X packages. Replace it with no-xdm-start-server, and you shouldn't ever be prompted about xdm starting a server again. Steve Early [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian.93 and inn
Hello to all, I have just changed from Slackware with kernel 1.2.8 to Debian .93 with kernel 1.2.13 only to discover that it doesn't appear to come with the inn news server. After checking out the packages available for Debian, it appears that the only inn package for Debian is the ELM version. Rather than install Debian 1.1, I would prefer to stay with Debian .93 because my reason for changing from Slackware is it's general unreliablity (and I have already spent a lot of time getting this far!) Can somebody Please tell me the best way to get an inn news server on Debian .93? Or where to get a non ELM version to suit Debian .93? Alternatively, can I just install the libc5 C library that the current inn server depends on and then install the current inn server? I have a running inn server on my Slackware setup that I could copy over, but I presume that Debian would lose the dependancy checking abilities if I use it? Regards Chris Rhodes...
Re: critical :) nethack question
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Kevin M Bealer wrote: A good place to discuss this (or anything really) is debian-talk... That's what it is for... (anything which is not debian only but is debianated ;) So, how do we subscribe to this list Kevin? Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Re: Majordomo install problem
Juhani Luhtanen writes: Failed to create group majordom: adduser: the user you specified already exist when I try to run dpkg --install with the majordomo.deb file. It looks to me like the base disks now have the `majordom' user but not the corresponding group (before you even install Majordomo, that is). Can someone confirm or refute this please - I don't have time to check right now. Since the base disks for 0.93 had neither the user nor the group the preinst attemps to create them. It then checks that both are there. If that is the problem ... as a temporary workaround create a `majordom' group, preferrably with the same GID as the `majordom' group. Make the default group for the `majordom' user be the GID of the `majordom' group. Then try reinstalling the majordomo package. - Richard -- http://www.elmail.co.uk/staff/richard/ GCS d- s+:- a-- C++ ULVS+++$ P+++ L++ E++ W(++,--) N(++,+) o? K w--- O? M- V? PS(+,+++) PE Y+ PGP+ t- 5++ X+@ R tv--- b++ DI+ D+ G e++ h r% y++
Re: debian.93 and inn
Chris Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rather than install Debian 1.1, I would prefer to stay with Debian .93 because my reason for changing from Slackware is it's general unreliablity (and I have already spent a lot of time getting this far!) Don't take this the wrong way, but you are wasting your time with 0.93. 1.1 has been a long time in the making and is more stable than 0.93. I highly recommend you bite the bullet and go with 1.1. Besides all the bug/security fixes, new packages etc. will be for 1.1. -- Rob
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aout svgalib problem
i just installed the aout-svgalib-1.28-6.deb package, and noticed it installs to /usr/i486-linuxaout rather than /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout, so the system can't find it. i tried writing the maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but the host appears not to exist. on a side note, has anyone made a doom package for debian? jeff --- Why Linux? source code. POSIX. tcpip. job control. support from the authors. drivers for most hardware. because one terminal or process is never enough. forget the other O/Ss, i use Linux- the choice of a gnu generation.
Re: debian.93 and inn
Chris, We've just released Debian 1.1 and we removed Debian 0.93 from the FTP sites. It doens't make sense to stick with 0.93 . I assure you that 1.1 is robust. Please install it, and you'll find that inn is there. Thanks Bruce
