Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?

1997-02-25 Thread David Sewell
Just wondering if any Debian users have tried the new Netscape
Communicator beta, released a couple of days ago.

There's a thread on comp.os.linux.development.apps discussing
problems with hangs  bus errors people have been having.
I can't get the newsreader function to work because the program
crashes, but have yet to play around with libraries in hopes of
a fix.  There's some disagreement about whether the fixes that
work for NS 3 work for the new beta.


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Logging problem/question

1997-02-25 Thread Matthew Tebbens

Right after installing debian, the system was logging in.pop3d requests
and who the requests came from in the /var/log/daemon.log file.

It seems that right after installing xinetd I lost the logging of those
messages. Maybe it was xinetd or something else, but the system WAS
logging in.pop3d,in.comsat and a few other programs. Now it does not
log any of it and I'm VERY curious as to WHY ??

Any ideas I can follow up on ?

Thanks, Matthew


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NT and Microsoft can go to hell!

1997-02-25 Thread Robert Nicholson
Well I guess I was expecting a little too much of NT when I just tried
to shift partitions around.

The plan was to simply backup a data partition and move it by creating a
new data partition on the same drive and restoring the backup. I figured
I'd be able to get the drive lettering sorted out.

I figured that once I removed my existing data partition that that would
free up that drive letter for the new data partition. Well Disk
Administrator decided to shuffle the letters around to it's liking such
that my boot partitions drive letter and my other drive letters were all
different. At no time did I expect DA to change my existing drive letter
configuration. So now the registry has all these references to totally
invalid drive letters. Thanks Microsoft for drive letters!

To top it off I agreed to write the signature that DA likes to write to
the drive in order to operate on it. and this has completely hoarked my
Debian Linux Boot record. I guess Linux requires that part of the boot
record that Microsoft assumes no other OS doesn't. Thanks Microsoft!

Disk Administrator and NT are about as reliable as Active X is secure.

I'm now am adding the following to my Resume.

I will not work with any Microsoft products!

And I'd like to remove every single Microsoft OS I currently own. Right
now that's 95,NT,DOS. I run System Commander under DOS and that's really
why I need DOS. So, with that in mind. Is it possible to use OSBS with
the following OS's?

NeXTSTEP 3.3
OpenStep 4.1 Mach
Linux 

Please help relieve me from Microsoft's Mediocrity.

Does anybody know how to run lilo once you've executed a shell from the
rescue disk? Basically I'm having a problem because / is the /ramdisk0
and not my harddrive. I think I need to rerun Lilo. However, the error
I'm getting, Thanks to NT, is 

Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root on 08:13


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Re: Bad Address

1997-02-25 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Lindsay Haisley said:
 The Debian FAQ lists the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the address to
 which to send corrections and suggestions regarding the FAQ.  Mail to this
 address bounces with a Sorry, no mailbox here by that name message.
 
 Do the people who maintain the FAQ know this?

Yes.  
1.  The mailing list isn't working.  Sven has agreed to look into this.

2.  I am re-writing and re-structuring the FAQ right now.  The first
thing I've done is to grep through the various mailing lists for the
phrase 'faq' (case insensitive).  There are nearly 400 matches, so I
don't expect to finish the new FAQ til this weekend.

3.  I think the official place against which to log bugs for the FAQ
might be doc-debian.  

HTH,
Susan Kleinmann


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Re: xmodmap does not seem to work

1997-02-25 Thread Bob Clark
Try ln -s .xinitrc .xsession and make sure that /etc/X11/config
contains the line allow-user-xsession.

hunnia wrote:
 
 I installed an .Xmodmap in my home (user) directory. It suppose
 to switch between hungarian and us keyboard by the use of the scroll
 lock key.
 
 Called the file up as
 
 xmodmap .Xmodmap
 
 in the .xinitrc file.
 
 It does not seem to map the keyboard.
 
 XF86Config is set up correctly for the keyboard.
 
 Using the same XF86Config and .Xmodmap file in the Red Hat distribution,
 and activating it in the .xsession file brings success.
 
 What is different in Debian.
 
 Sandor.
 
 P.S. I also tried using the full path names for xmodmap and .Xmodmap.
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Whereis OSBS?

1997-02-25 Thread Robert Nicholson
Does anybody have the home page for OSBS?


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Re: NT and Microsoft can go to hell!

1997-02-25 Thread John T. Larkin
On Feb 24, Robert Nicholson wrote
 Does anybody know how to run lilo once you've executed a shell from the
 rescue disk? Basically I'm having a problem because / is the /ramdisk0
 and not my harddrive. I think I need to rerun Lilo. 

I don't know if this is the recommended usage, but I just did it and
it works.  Mount your root parition in /mnt.   Edit /mnt/etc/lilo.conf
and change all of the paths from /boot/... to /mnt/boot/... etc.  
I also had to create a /boot directory.  Then run
/mnt/sbin/lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf
It will create a file in /boot.  I just moved that file to /mnt/boot,
reset the computer, and everything works fine and dandy now.  But don't
forget to change /etc/lilo.conf once you reboot.
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Kernel compilation problem

1997-02-25 Thread Michael Banys
I just got a new Pentium Pro 200 MHz, and I put Debian linux 1.2 onto it
(had it on my old system and LOVED it!  So had to have it again on this
new screamer).  Well, I am trying to compile a custom kernel, which I've
done numerous times on my old system, using make-kpkg.  

So I go through make config and everything is just fine ... until it comes
to the sound. When it reaches the soundblaster I/O, no matter what I type
in, it reports: Sorry, no help available for this option yet, and then
just goes right back to the statement.  I tried playing around with the
code, to just accept the default, which is correct, rather than prompting
me, and didn't have any luck.  I encountered the same problem with the
soundblaster IRQ question (found this out when I completely commented out
the I/O question!).  

I tried using menuconfig  xconfig (very slick, this last one!), and I can
complete the setup just fine.  But then when I run the make-kpkg program,
and it reaches the soundblaster part described above, it enters an
infinite loop, and keeps on scrolling the I/O question  Sorry, no
help... line until I interrupt the compilation.

Does anyone know how to fix this problem?  It's completely baffling me...

Thank you!

Mike


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Re: Kernel compilation problem

1997-02-25 Thread Steve Reid
 Well, I am trying to compile a custom kernel, which I've done
 numerous times on my old system, using make-kpkg. So I go through
 make config and everything is just fine ... until it comes to the
 sound. When it reaches the soundblaster I/O, no matter what I type
 in, it reports: Sorry, no help available for this option yet, and
 then just goes right back to the statement.

This is a known bug in make-kpkg.

I haven't tried make-kpkg since I reported the bug, but I suspect it
may have been fixed by now. Try upgrading make-kpkg.

If all else fails you could hack the scripts.


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Re: Running lilo from recue disk. (was NT and Microsoft can go to ...)

1997-02-25 Thread Perry Piplani


Does anybody know how to run lilo once you've executed a shell from the
rescue disk? Basically I'm having a problem because / is the /ramdisk0
and not my harddrive. I think I need to rerun Lilo. However, the error
I'm getting, Thanks to NT, is 

Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root on 08:13

You should be able to run lilo from the dinstall menus.

Running it from the rescue shell is kinda tricky because you root which is
normally / is now /target. Thus your kernel image /vmlinuz is
/target/vmlinuz, your /etc/lilo.conf is at /target/etc//lilo.conf etc. etc.

What you can do is dd your /target/vmlinuz onto a floppy, make sure your
root is set on it correctly with rdev and then boot your system on it. Then
all your directories have their real paths and running lilo will be as
usual.



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Re: Kernel compilation problem

1997-02-25 Thread Mary Conner


On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Michael Banys wrote:
 So I go through make config and everything is just fine ... until it comes
 to the sound. When it reaches the soundblaster I/O, no matter what I type
 in, it reports: Sorry, no help available for this option yet, and then
 just goes right back to the statement.  I tried playing around with the
 code, to just accept the default, which is correct, rather than prompting
 me, and didn't have any luck.  I encountered the same problem with the
 soundblaster IRQ question (found this out when I completely commented out
 the I/O question!).  

Try getting the latest version of both the kernel-source and make-kpkg.
I had this problem, and managed to hack around it, but I don't remember
which file it is that had the problem.  It's the file that processes
the config file and there are two sections in there---one accepts and
validates a hex number and one accepts and validates a decimal number.
I ended up having to backslash the ? and + in the regular expressions
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Re: Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?

1997-02-25 Thread Christian Hudon
On 24 Feb 1997, David Sewell wrote:

 Just wondering if any Debian users have tried the new Netscape
 Communicator beta, released a couple of days ago.
 

Tried it with MALLOC_CHECK_=0, only got one bus error. The newsreader was
working fine for me.

   Christian




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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread David Lutz
  So far I have read a lot about everybody joining in, what name to run
under and how to split the money.  But I have only seen two URL's on where
to get info for this.  One is the at upenn.edu where I could only find a
precompiled binary, but NO Documentation or Source Code.  I also saw a
reference to the stats Web Page, but that page had no reference to any
Documentation or Source Code.  Where can one find this vital info?

  I don't relish the idea of running a binary that is in constant
communication with another host on the internet if I can't get my hands on
some Documentation and Source Code.  I am sure this exists somewhere on
the net, but it would be nice if someone would post a pointer to it on the
list here.  Thanks.

D.L.

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Re: NT and Microsoft can go to heck!

1997-02-25 Thread Bruce Perens
Mount the hard disk root on /mnt, and run lilo -r /mnt. That will
treat /mnt as if it were the root.

I agree these commercial operating systems aren't worth the trouble.

Bruce
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Re: Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?

1997-02-25 Thread David Puryear
Hi,

On 25-Feb-97 Christian Hudon wrote:
On 24 Feb 1997, David Sewell wrote:

 Just wondering if any Debian users have tried the new Netscape
 Communicator beta, released a couple of days ago.
 

Tried it with MALLOC_CHECK_=0, only got one bus error. The newsreader was
working fine for me.

I had to disable java, or it give me buss error and crash every time it hit
webpage with java. I also get buss error if I do java console. 

Email is not very stable. I like the webpage editor. 

If anyone finds way to make java work without causing bus error, please let me
know.

Thanks, 
David


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Gateway Solo 2100 Hanging

1997-02-25 Thread Tres Hofmeister

I've just installed 1.2.7 on a Gateway Solo 2100
laptop.  Unfortunately, some time after installing 2.0.29 and
pcmcia-source_2.9.1-1 and building a kernel with PCMCIA support and
support for the nice things one likes on a laptop (APM, etc.), it
randomly hangs in the first few minutes after booting.  Ouch.

The thing seemed to run fine before reconfiguring the kernel.
This is the same kernel/modules configuration I'm using on a Micron
Transport, so it's worked before.  I'm stumped for the moment.
Any suggestions?

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Re: OFFTOPIC rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
The sources are now in portal.stwing.upenn.edu and ftp.genx.net. I saw someone 
mentioning it in the linux-kernel mailing list.

// Heikki
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Re: Filesystemsize

1997-02-25 Thread Ronald van Loon
| Stefan Walder writes:
|
| does anyone know how big a ext2-filesystem can be?
|
|From /usr/src/linux/fs/ext2/CHANGES:
|
|Changes from version 0.5 to version 0.5a
|
|[..]
|  - Check that no data can be written to a file past the 2GB limit.

This only says that a *file* can't be over 2 GB in size.

A bit further down in the same file:

- Support for big file systems: the copy of the FS descriptor is now
  dynamically allocated (previous versions used a fixed size array).
  This allows to mount 2GB+ FS.

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Re: Filesystemsize

1997-02-25 Thread Gleb Arshinov
 Paul == Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Paul That says 'file' not 'filesystem.'  Last I remember, no file
Paul could be over 2GB, but filesystems up to 4TB are possible.

I remember reading an article calculating these limits, and the
filesystem limit was a bit lower, between 2 and 3TB's I think.  Deja
News may be able to uncover this post (it was in one of
c.o.l. newsgroups).

Gleb


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RC5: update

1997-02-25 Thread Ioannis Tambouras


The score, as of Tue Feb 25 2:40 EST 1997, was:

   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 100602 106.06 70.73
   2 #root 35303 154.25 17.07
   3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12063 86.37 10.41
   4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10789 124.51 6.46
   5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9964 124.50 5.97
   6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8211 68.82 8.90

We are moving very fast to the top. Like super pacman, we are consuming
400 key blocks per hour, which is 8,000 key blocks per day.
Two hours later debian will reach to top 5 and tommorrow to top 3.


The stats of linuxnet and #root describe the contest:

* linuxnet is untouchable and moves very fast.
* #root runs at half our current speed. Their 35,000 blocks presently
  blocks our way, and will remain so for the next six days. Then we move
  to the number 2 position behind linuxnet.

If things remain as they are, only linuxnet is a major player in this
contest. Essentially, the same thing like three days ago before we got
started.




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libvga?

1997-02-25 Thread jlillibr
I've been trying to run several svga games and keep getting this error:

/usr/games/doom-1.8/sdoom: can't load library '/usr/lib/libvga.so.1'
Unknown error
/usr/games/doom-1.8/sdoom: can't load library '/lib/libvga.so.1'
Unknown error
/usr/games/doom-1.8/sdoom: can't find library 'libvga.so.1'

I have svgalib1 version 1.210-3 installed.  /usr/lib/libvga.so.1
*does* exist, and /lib/libvga.so.1 is a link to it.  In fact,
/usr/lib/libvga.so.1 is a link to /usr/lib/libvga.so.1.2.10.

I've tried using strace, but I didn't get any useful info from there.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Joe


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NT and Microsoft can go to hell!

1997-02-25 Thread Gleb Arshinov
 Robert == Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Robert Well I guess I was expecting a little too much of NT when
Robert I just tried to shift partitions around.

sad, yet common story snipped

Ahh, the beauties of NT Disk Administrator :-) Which version of NT are
you using, 3.51? It had this bug for disks with more than 2 logical
partitions.  I am really curious if M$ left it in there for 4.0 (I am
too afraid to try it out myself).  For full description of the problem
and solution check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/kb/articles/q135/3/08.htm

Gleb

PS I coulnd't even use fdisk from Linux/OS/2/Dos after I had this
problem. Norton Disk Doctor was reporting physically damaged disk.  I
had to fiddle with Norton Disk Editor to even get fdisk to work.
Gotta love NT


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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
 On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Riku Voipio wrote:
 
  Here at debian, we have joined the fun, and you can join in too.
 
 This may sound silly, but why doesn't someone package this thing (both US
 and non-US) with a nice description of what it is, how can the whole
 community beneffit from such an effort, etc, and the proper scripts/setup
 in /etc/init.d/ to start running the client as soon as the machine is up,
 as well as the cronjon described in other post on this subject?

I'd consider running it here (since I have a permanently connected 
machine with time on its hands), but how much network bandwidth does
it use -- it's at a premium here.



Hamish


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Re: Can't load modules into kernel.

1997-02-25 Thread Hamish Neil Moffatt
Victor Torrico writes:
 Did a recompile to version 2.1.26. Everything works fine except that I
 cant load the three loadable modules I compiled. 

If you really mean you recompiled it (as in, you compiled it twice), then that's
probably your problem; there's a file called /lib/modules/version/modules.dep
which details the dependenceies between modules, but it doesn't get replaced
when you upgrade to a new compile of the same kernel (with make-kpkg etc).
Remove /lib/modules/version/modules.dep and reboot
and see if that helps.


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Re: Is there a WorkMan deb?

1997-02-25 Thread Volker Ossenkopf
Riku Saikkonen wrote:
 I like WorkMan too, except for the fact that it uses the XView libraries
 (which wouldn't be so bad if something else used them too, but it's kind of
 a waste to have them for just one small program). I haven't seen WorkMan in
 the Debian distribution, though -- maybe someone should package it?

Workman has bee available as Debian package in the
experimental section since December 1996. Probably,
I should not have put it into experimental since
almost nobody looks into this section so that I even
did not get back any bug-reports. But I was not very
sure that I collected everything right. Probably, I 
should ask Bruce to put the package now into unstable 
instead.

Best wishes -- Volker

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Re: Filesystemsize

1997-02-25 Thread Dirk Bernhardt
 Jason Gunthorpe writes:

 - Check that no data can be written to a file past the 2GB limit.
 ext2fs, like other file-systems seems to have a 2G per file limit

Oh, yes, sorry for that. It's a file, not the filesystem that has the 2GB
limit.

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Re: lprm says Permission denied

1997-02-25 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Spiegl) writes:

 something must be wrong with my lpd-setup.  When a user starts
 a print job, s/he can't cancel it anymore.  Example: (user 'spiegl')
 
  $ lpr abc.txt
  $ lpq
  lp is ready and printing
  Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
  active spiegl 27   abc.txt   47978 bytes
  $ lprm 27
  cfA027Aa00860: Permission denied
  cfA027Aa00860: Permission denied

[snip]

 Is there anything wrong with the permissions?  I didn't change
 anything after installing Debian 1.2 and updating to Debian 1.4.

I ran into a problem with this.  It was something like lpr using a
hostname of cassandra.evansnet, but lprm using cassandra.  There's a
comment in lpr_5.9-13's changelog and in lpr.c that something was
changed to fix canonizing hostnames, so I unpacked the source package
and removed the fix, IIRC.

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Re: Can't load modules into kernel.

1997-02-25 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake Hamish Neil Moffatt
 
 Victor Torrico writes:
  Did a recompile to version 2.1.26. Everything works fine except that I
  cant load the three loadable modules I compiled. 
 
 If you really mean you recompiled it (as in, you compiled it twice), then 
 that's
 probably your problem; there's a file called 
 /lib/modules/version/modules.dep
 which details the dependenceies between modules, but it doesn't get replaced
 when you upgrade to a new compile of the same kernel (with make-kpkg etc).
 Remove /lib/modules/version/modules.dep and reboot
 and see if that helps.

Better still, try this.  Delete each of the subdirs (net, fs, etc.) under
/lib/modules/version, cd to /usr/src/linux and run make modules_install to
reinstall the new modules.  This will insure that you have all the modules,
and only the modules available which go with the current kernel.  After the
modules from the current build have been reinstalled, run depmod -a to
rebuild modules.dep.  This will make your current set of modules installable
without rebooting.

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Installation problems.

1997-02-25 Thread Maciej Koprowski
Hi! 
  I tried to install ( on my PC) too many packages using dselect.
 Dselect quitted , because my Linux partition  was full .
 What can I do now to recover my system clean and well working ? 


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Re: Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?

1997-02-25 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, David Puryear wrote:
If anyone finds way to make java work without causing bus error, please let me
know.
Did you try out using old version of the pixmap library?

I have libXpm.so.4.6 in /usr/lib/netscape/lib, and a symbolic link
libXpm.so.4 pointing to it. Then I start netscape with

  LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/netscape/lib/libXpm.so.4 MALLOC_CHECK_=0 \
  exec /usr/lib/netscape/netscape $@

It only crashed once since.

Nils

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Re: Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?

1997-02-25 Thread Daniel Stringfield
From what I've seen with it in Win95, it crashes a lot too
... so I wouldn't doubt it would have problems under Linux too.

 Tried it with MALLOC_CHECK_=0, only got one bus error. The newsreader
was
 working fine for me.
 
 I had to disable java, or it give me buss error and crash every time it
hit
 webpage with java. I also get buss error if I do java console. 


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Re: Gateway Solo 2100 Hanging

1997-02-25 Thread Bob Clark
Tres,

I had a similar problem on a Solo 2100 and re-installed from the
stable area built a custom kernel (2.0.27) from the distributed kernel
source and all's well so far, it hasn't hung since (2 days).

--Bob

Tres Hofmeister wrote:
 
 I've just installed 1.2.7 on a Gateway Solo 2100
 laptop.  Unfortunately, some time after installing 2.0.29 and
 pcmcia-source_2.9.1-1 and building a kernel with PCMCIA support and
 support for the nice things one likes on a laptop (APM, etc.), it
 randomly hangs in the first few minutes after booting.  Ouch.
 
 The thing seemed to run fine before reconfiguring the kernel.
 This is the same kernel/modules configuration I'm using on a Micron
 Transport, so it's worked before.  I'm stumped for the moment.
 Any suggestions?
 
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Rescue kernel hangs after probing sjcd

1997-02-25 Thread Lorens Kockum
I'm new to Debian, new to mailing lists, but not to Unix or Linux.

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, but I can't seem to get
archives for this list. My problem is not in the kernel section of the bug
reports by package, nor can I find it on verisim.

I have a Slackware distribution running, and a RedHat distribution running.
The RedHat and the Debian come from the December 96 Infomagic 6-CD set.
I have an sbpcd=0x300,LaserMate cd-rom.

While booting the 1.44MB diskette called rescue, I get the help screens
and all that. Whatever arguments I give to the bootloader, the kernel probes
all imaginable cd-roms (which is nice) but hangs after failing to find the
sjcd cd-rom (which is not nice). Once I left it for 10 minutes. The last
line I think belongs to the next driver probed, it is the MD driver.

In the help screens for the hardware, there is no space between the sjcd
line and the sbpcd line :-( (It seems the drives are probed in the sequence
the appear on the help screen.)

I tried md=none, mdcd=none, hd[abcd]=none on the pattern of hda=none, but it
doesn't help (didn't expect it to).

As you'll have guessed I'm SCSI-only. My machine is an AMD 486DX4-120,
unmarked PCI motherboard, 32Mo RAM, Adaptec PowerDomain 2940UW, Kelvin
Orchid ISA card. I've disabled all the shadow RAM. The extension cards are a
14.400 3X ISA modem on ttyS1 (COM2 disabled in the BIOS), and a Sound Galaxy
Pro on IRQ7 which I haven't bothered to configure just yet.

Everything worked out of the box with the RedHat AIC7xxx diskettes. :-(

I suppose I have to protect some I/O adresses, but which?
(Oh... look at the doc for the md cd-rom driver... too late, here goes...)

Thank you for your help!

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pine produces segmentation faults

1997-02-25 Thread Corey Allert
Hi all:
here is my problem, a machine at my school is running Debian 1.2 (upgraded
from 1.1) the current kernel is 2.0.6, libc is 5.4.20, the problem is any
attempts to send mail from pine results in a segmentation fault.  I've
noticed this since I've attempted to install Majordomo(ugh!)  ok I'm using
smail_3.2-3 and pine_3.95-l7.  please advise?

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pine produces segmentation faults (fwd)

1997-02-25 Thread Corey Allert
sorry about this . . .  but I feel it is relatively important
I can send mail in pine as root . .  so it must be a permission problem
right but where

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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:10:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Corey Allert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian user mail lists debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: pine produces segmentation faults

Hi all:
here is my problem, a machine at my school is running Debian 1.2 (upgraded
from 1.1) the current kernel is 2.0.6, libc is 5.4.20, the problem is any
attempts to send mail from pine results in a segmentation fault.  I've
noticed this since I've attempted to install Majordomo(ugh!)  ok I'm using
smail_3.2-3 and pine_3.95-l7.  please advise?



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started over again, pon probs?

1997-02-25 Thread Richard Morin
Hi all,

I've finally risen to the next step.  I've allocated enough HD space 
to actually try all the packages I want to.

I d/l the base disks for 1.2.6? could be 7 and started over 
installing from scratch.

Do I need any other packages to make pon work so I can FTP the rest 
with dselect?  Or am I just a boob who can't make pon work.  I've 
been up all night and it's my god 9am ...

I didn't use pon before, but I have had a system able to dial up.  
The server just doesn't seem to want to send me an ip... it dials, 
connects, logs in, sets ppp0--ttyS1 and sits there.

any ideas where I've not crossed my T's?

Thanks for an otherwise easy install to the developers.

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Dependency problems and conjectures

1997-02-25 Thread Yoav Cohen-Sivan
It seems to me we've got a problem with the way dependencies and the
installation are handled. It seems that if package 1 is dependent on
packages 2,3 and 4, and all were selected for installation, then
dselect  doesn't always install 2,3 and 4 before 1. More usually it
installs 2, then tries 1 and you get a dependency error - the
post-install script of 1 exits with an error. Go through the
installation again and it'll install 3, then 1 and again dependency
problems. Go through the installation a final time, you get 4 installed,
and everything is spiffy.

 I say this since I have had constant problems installing many packages,
especially the X11 and TeX distributions, both on Debian 1.1 and 1.2. In
all cases I got numerous dependency errors and various post-install
scripts returning with errors since some packages that the main one
depended on hadn't yet been installed even though I had selected them
for installation. Only after going through the Install step of dselect
4-5 times were all packages installed and then the main one would work
as expected.

 I find it hard to believe it is only me since this has happened with
both 1.1 and 1.2 and I am not trying to do anything fancy, just the
basic install + 1 or 2 additional stuff. Still, I haven't seen anyone
else complain so maybe I am just missing something simple.

 Anyway, if anyone of the developers wants I can go through the install
again and write down the numerous error messages and send them to him. 
 Again, the problems I just had were with the X11 distribution,
especially xserver-vga16 and xserver-s3 not being installed before other
packages that depended on them were, causing an avalanche of packages
not being installed that were dependent on the ones dependent on
xserver... The same thing regarding TeX, especially psnfss, texbin and
latex. Perl also caused a few headaches.

Thanks for reading,
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Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-25 Thread Ed Down

On 24 Feb 1997, Guy Maor wrote:
 Ed Down [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  But, on the ftp site, doesn't rex contain what was, in effect, the
  original 1.2.0 release in total?
 
 No, not in total, just a subset.  Source and binaries in 1.2.0 that
 have been replaced by files in rex-updates are removed.  Otherwise it
 would be impossible to fit Debian 1.2 on one CD.
 
 You can still upgrade to the latest by pointing dselect at stable.
 

Hmmm, I wasn't aware of this. Couldn't debian fit the last release in
total on the ftp site in a 'frozen' state for ftp users? I for one was
happy with the 1.2 release 'out of the box' and would probably not have
bothered upgrading until the next release if it had been possible extra
packages from the original release. But maybe I'm in a minority of one
here... 

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Problems booting with new kernel

1997-02-25 Thread Karl Sackett
I've been trying to upgrade my kernel using kernel-source-2.0.27.  I
put the new kernel on a floppy, boot from the floppy, and instead of
loading the new kernel I get this on my display:

Loading..

8000
AX: 02FF
BX: 
CX: 000B
DX: 


The hex code sequence keeps repeating until I reset my computer and
reboot off the old kernel.  I don't know anything about i486 internals
so I could really use some help here.
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dsik with new kernel hung at rc.don (sort-of)

1997-02-25 Thread David_Oswald
 Hi all...
 
 Created a new kernel for my litlle compaq tecra laptop. (386sx, 
 6mb ram, 120mb +- HDD, mono vga)
 
After doing a make bzImage, I copied the image to the floppy as 
 linux and boot the contura with the new disk to perform a new 
 install on this box. oh yeah - I ran the *sh file that the text file 
 on the boot disk recommends - I cant remember the name at this time.
 
The bootup goes well - no problems until the rc.done message 
 appears. The machine just stops at this point.
 
HOWEVER - After fooling around I found out that ALT+F2 worked. And 
 I was able to install the system by running the dinstall executable.
 
Any ideas on what I did wrong.
 
 Thanks in advance...Dave


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Re: Kernel compilation problem

1997-02-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

This is a know bug with the *kernel sources* (not make-kpkg as
 has been suggested).  Actually, this problem is an artifact of expr
 becomming suddenly POSIX compliant, much to the consternation of the
 kernel configure scripts.

The fix is to apply the following patch to your kernel sources
 (newer kernel-package versions mention this problem and fix in
 /usr/doc/kernel-package/Problems.gz). This is becoming a FAQ. Susan? 

manoj

--- scripts/Configure.dist  Mon Jan 20 14:43:24 1997
+++ scripts/Configure   Tue Jan 21 05:41:30 1997
@@ -288,7 +288,7 @@
def=${old:-$3}
while :; do
  readln $1 ($2) [$def]  $def $old
- if expr $ans : '0$\|-?[1-9][0-9]*$'  /dev/null; then
+ if expr $ans : '0$\|-\?[1-9][0-9]*$'  /dev/null; then
define_int $2 $ans
break
  else
@@ -319,7 +319,7 @@
while :; do
  readln $1 ($2) [$def]  $def $old
  ans=${ans#*[x,X]}
-if expr $ans : '[0-9a-fA-F]+$'  /dev/null; then
+if expr $ans : '[0-9a-fA-F]\+$'  /dev/null; then
   define_hex $2 $ans
   break
 else
 
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread Ioannis Tambouras

On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 I'd consider running it here (since I have a permanently connected 
 machine with time on its hands), but how much network bandwidth does
 it use -- it's at a premium here.

 Including inet headers, the upper limit is about 1k bytes of traffic
per keyspace block. It all depends on how fast you finish the keyspace block,
a pentium 133Mz pentium will traffic about 1k bytes every half an hour. 
 


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Re: Kernel compilation problem

1997-02-25 Thread edwalter
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Michael Banys wrote:

 
 Does anyone know how to fix this problem?  It's completely baffling me...
 

I don't know of a way to make it perfect, but, the following is a
fix.  in the drivers/sound directory, copy Config.std to Config.in and
then do make config or oldconfig (not make menuconfig or xconfig).
When it gets to the sound part, it will use the traditional config
program instead of the modified system developed for use with xconfig
and menuconfig.  Once this is complete, you can make the debian
package.  Be sure to save the config in /etx/soundconf when it asks.

Hopefully, this can be fixed so menuconfig and xconfig can be used in
the future.  I believe this is a kernel problem and not a debian
problem because it happens even when the kernel is created using
xconfig or menuconfig without debian tools.

Luck,
Erv
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

I'm running on an demand dialed modem connection, and the
 bandwidth requirement is pretty minimal (I had to explicitly nice it
 down to 17, though, for it not to make my machine slow as sludge).

manoj
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread Karl Ferguson
Hi.

You may all be pleased to know the following stats at 12:25am +0800 WST

   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 112709 115.41 72.82
   2 #root 36550 163.60 16.66
   3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12229 95.72 9.53
   4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11350 133.86 6.32
   5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10394 78.17 9.91

With a 9.91 average, we're going to be able to get to number 3 easily -
however, I'm not sure if we'll be able to get any further!  In any case, if
you would like to get started at cracking please do so.

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Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-25 Thread Guy Maor
Ed Down [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hmmm, I wasn't aware of this. Couldn't debian fit the last release in
 total on the ftp site in a 'frozen' state for ftp users? I for one was
 happy with the 1.2 release 'out of the box' and would probably not have
 bothered upgrading until the next release if it had been possible extra
 packages from the original release. But maybe I'm in a minority of one
 here... 

Most of the packages in 1.2.x are the same as versions as 1.2.0.  You
can still add packages from 1.2.x without any problems.  At worst, you
might have to upgrade to more of the fixes in 1.2.x.


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Re: Dependency problems and conjectures

1997-02-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

We are working on a package ordering mechanism, and are giving
 it a fairly high priority.

manoj
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 to please you.] Menu of Restaurant Antoine, New Orleans [Also, what
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Re: [linux-security] i386-elf-xquake-1.01.tgz (fwd)

1997-02-25 Thread Joey Hess
Stefan Petters:
 just found this on linux--security.
 
 Seems to be contained in your tar--files for Debian as well. I don't
 want such things on my machines. I think, this Package can't be on a
 serious Debian--Distribution. I know, you can't keep an eye on
 everything, but if such things are found, they have to be removed.

Well, I know of the script. I included it in the quake package because I 
didn't see it doing any serious harm, or exposing any security-related info, 
and because the quake authors requested that people run it. However, quake's 
postinst script prompts whether this should be run or not, as follows:

A request from Crack dot Com:

The runme program is a shell script which will send a letter to Crack
dot Com with statistics about your computer so that we may learn more
about the Linux market.  Please run it only once.  Do not run it again
even if you get a new version of the game.  We need this data to make
our next game run well on your machine.  It sends information from
your /proc directory telling us about your devices, your CPU, your
memory, etc.

The program will send the contents of the following files to
Crack dot com:
 
/proc/cpuinfo /proc/devices /proc/meminfo /proc/version
/proc/filesystems /proc/interrupts /proc/ioports 
/proc/modules /proc/pci

Do you want to run the runme program? [Y/n]


If you don't want to send this information, you obviously answer n here.
Do you still believe this is a problem?

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The Future of Debian's TeX system: tetex

1997-02-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
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Hi folks!

Some time ago I started a discussion about the future of Debian's TeX
packages. The old packages had lots of bugs and some of them were based on
old upstream sources.

We had two possibilites: continuing with our own tex packages (i.e. fixing
the old bugs, upgrading to newer upstream versions, included some newer
patches to web2c related stuff) or basing our tex system on another UNIX
tex distribution, as NTeX or teTeX for example.

The discussion on debian-devel showed me that there were good arguments
for both sides. Initially we planned to continue with our own tex packages
but then Chow Chi-Ming and Christoph Martin both came up with a debianized
tetex packages. There were some problems with the directory structure of
tetex, but these were easily fixed (with help of Thomas Esser, the author
of tetex).

We hope that this was the right decision and will make life easier for
Debian's TeX users.

The new tetex packages will be included in Debian 1.3. There are now part
of the unstable distribution and will replace the old packages in about a
week. If you want to help you could download these new packages and test
them.


Thanks,

Chris

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Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-25 Thread Yoav Cohen-Sivan
It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on
pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I
mean is that after installation of RedHat you have a more or less
pre-tailored system setup. You can start tweaking your heart out but the
basics are already there. Debian comes up in a much rawer form after
install - for instance, no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $
for the user (RedHat gives you the now famous username /home/username$
prompt). X is pretty bare in Debian after install, too - if you just
startx you get a simple xterm with no default menus, no menued way of
running another xterm, heck not even a FvwmModule running on screen with
xload and xclock in it.

 These are just a few examples. Of course, any competent person should
be able to set all these up to suit his own tastes given enough time,
but a default setup would be nice IMHO. 

 It seems as if Debian is catering to the more techie crowd - the ones
that want a bare-bones system they can play around with and not have
someone else make decisions and choices for them. Sort of like after
installing Solaris - the system is stripped to the bones by way of
configuration - you have to set it all up by yourself.

 My proposition - let's go for the more casual, yet sophisticated user.
A user that DOES want to read the Fvwm man page to learn how to set it
up to his own tastes, BUT doesn't want to do it 2 hours after installing
the system and in the meantime he would like a nice default to help him
get along.

Yoav


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Re: Procmail recipe.

1997-02-25 Thread Patrick Ryan
Brian,

Here's what I use:

~/.procmailrc:
-begin-
# Please check if all the paths in PATH are reachable, remove the ones that
# are not.

PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
DEFAULT=/usr/spool/mail/pryan
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail/from.log
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.procmail/lockmail

:0
* ^From debian-user*
debian-user-l-inbox

--end-

It's worked well so far.  This recipe is adapted from 1procmailrc in the
examples directory of the procmail-3.10 distribution.

-Patrick

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Re: Procmail recipe.

1997-02-25 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote:

   Hi folks, Could someone do me a wee favour and write out a simple
 procmail recipe for filtering this mailing list to another folder? 
 (~Mail/deb)
 
   Been playing around for ages and can't seem to get it to filter on the
 To: header.
 
   TIA,
 

How about:

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-user

And if you are subscribed to the digest version you may noticed how
tedious it is to reply to individual messages (in pine anyway.)  In that
case you may find this recipe helpful:

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| formail +1 -ds debian-user

What this does is split up the digest into individual messages in a
folder.

I got these straight from the man pages BTW.  Take a look at them,
everything is explained there.

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kerneld activity

1997-02-25 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

I a new to this list and to Debian. I have a 2.0.0 kernel and debian 1.2
Yesterday I updated some packages from the unstable tree. The packages
were base-passwd bsdutils debianutils dpkg e2fsprogs fileutils and 
findutils. Today I have noticed by runing pstree that kerneld 
spawns new kernelds at very short intervals . More specifically 
kerneld spawns another kerneld which in its turn spawns yet another or
might spawn a sh process Then very quickly the child processes disappear.
This happens at very short intervls ( seconds) Additionally there is some
minor hard disk activity ( probably ) unrelated with the fact that I am
runing some backgroung batch jobs. Can anyone tell me if this is normal or
is it a bug or is it because i haven't upgraded some other package ??
At the moment no other problems are caused but I am abit worried. 
Thanks for any help
George   

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RE: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-25 Thread Kevin McEnhill
Yoav wrote:

#ifdef QUOTE 

It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on
pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I

snip a comparison of different packaging set-ups

It seems as if Debian is catering to the more techie crowd - the ones
that want a bare-bones system they can play around with and not have
someone else make decisions and choices for them. Sort of like after
installing Solaris - the system is stripped to the bones by way of
configuration - you have to set it all up by yourself.

My proposition - let's go for the more casual, yet sophisticated user.
A user that DOES want to read the Fvwm man page to learn how to set it
up to his own tastes, BUT doesn't want to do it 2 hours after installing
the system and in the meantime he would like a nice default to help him
get along.

#endif -


Well, I see your point about Debian leaving you with the So, now what?
feeling after an installation, but I think that is an advantage. Yes it
does cater to the technical crowd but, it isn't that technical and you end
up learning something about your system while you try to customize it. I am
in the process of trying to set up color ls in my xterms. On other systems,
it might be included and I would have never learned about my .bashrc,
.profile, .xresource, and xrdb. In trying to do a simple customization, I
have been learning about my system.

I am not flaming your opinion, just adding a data point to the argument.



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Re: Thrown away...

1997-02-25 Thread Bjoern Starke
I have lived 3 jears with Windows95. So, this won't kill me anyway.

Sorry, it sould be a two. (2)


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Re: Procmail recipe.

1997-02-25 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote:

   Hi folks, Could someone do me a wee favour and write out a simple
 procmail recipe for filtering this mailing list to another folder? 
 (~Mail/deb)

:0:
* ^Resent-From.*debian-user
$HOME/Mail/deb


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Re: Procmail recipe.

1997-02-25 Thread Jason Killen
When this is done please post it here or forward it to me.  Procamil and I
have this love hate thing going on. 

On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote:

   Hi folks, Could someone do me a wee favour and write out a simple
procmail recipe for filtering this mailing list to another folder? 
(~Mail/deb)

   Been playing around for ages and can't seem to get it to filter on the
To: header.

   TIA,


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Re: Installation problems.

1997-02-25 Thread robert havoc pennington


On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Maciej Koprowski wrote:

 Hi! 
   I tried to install ( on my PC) too many packages using dselect.
  Dselect quitted , because my Linux partition  was full .
  What can I do now to recover my system clean and well working ? 
 

Go back into dselect and remove or purge some of the packages you don't
need to make more space (you can flip over to another virtual terminal to
run df and see how much you have), then re-install (especially any
packages listed as broken). 

Havoc Pennington


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smail lock failed - try again - message

1997-02-25 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo,

When I connect to my ISP and run runq the message lock failed - try
again sometimes comes up in the /var/log/smail/logfile and mail in the
queue are not sent.  If, while online, I send a message directly from
pine, it goes through while the queue stays with the same message. 

Why does that happen?  What is this lock failed?  How can I correct it?

Thanks for your help in the past.

 
Johann Spies
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Pietermaritzburg
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HD prob - bad inodes

1997-02-25 Thread dr. banzai

I am having problems installing Debian. Here is what
happens.

The installation goes smoothly until I get to the part
where it decompresses the selected packages from dselect.
halfway through, it crashes with some kind of kernel memory error
and forces me to reboot the system. Upon reboot, I get an
UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY error on my /dev/hda4 (my linux
partition). It boots in safe mode, and asks me to manually
check my fs. I do an fsck -t ext2 /dev/hda4 and the errors
make up about 20 pages. They consist of various inode,
freeblock count wrong, and directory inconsistency errors.
I hold down y for about 20 seconds as the errors flash
by. Upon rebooting, there's a sprinkling of EXT2FS-warnings
in amongst the regular boot messages. If I try to run dselect
again, it stops with a file not found error, presumably
because fsck deleted the corrupt file. If I try to run fsck
at this point, it corrects a couple of errors. If I run it
again, it says the FS is clean. If I reboot and check it
again, it catches a few more errors. What is going on?

I have 4 partitions, 2 DOS, 1 swap, and 1 ext2. I run win95
on my dos partitions, and haven't seen any problems with the
HD. Also in the installation, it did the bad-block check
without any probs. 

This all started when I was using Slackware a few weeks ago.
I was manipulating a large file (30 megs) when it froze up. 
I rebooted and was greeted with a bad inode on device 03:04
error which repeated endlessly on the screen. I decided to
delete and re-form my partition and try Debian, but it hasn't
fixed the problem. 

It started happening also around when I ran Partition Magic
version 3 to modify my DOS partitons. There were no errors.
I dont know if this is the problem because I overwrote the
partition table with the partitioning program that comes with 
the Debian installation package. There were no errors there
either.

Here are my system specs:

intel pentium 120
ASUS P/I-P55TP4XE mb
Quantum Fireball 2100 meg
32 mb RAM

I am using the I/O controller which is built into the motherboard.
My BIOS is set to LBA mode.

If you have any insight into this problem please respond!
thanks,

-Paul H.


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Why there are no /usr/include/{linux,asm} symlinks.

1997-02-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

From time to time, there come a question on this list (or the
 developers list) about Debian's practice of not providing the
 symbolic links /usr/include/{linux,asm}; instead, we ship default
 headers in the libc development packages. 

In order to answer these concerns, I have created a canned
 response; and I recently have received permission to enhance the
 clarity of my explanation by using material from someone who
 expresses himself far better than I did.

I promised elsewhere I would publish the improved explanation
 when I could, and, since it _is_ relevant to this list as well, I'm
 posting it here.

So, without more ado, is our rationale for shipping default
 headers in /usr/include rather than pointing to ``real'' kernel
 headers. 

manoj

==

This document contains comments from Linus Torvalds (made in
 an ``off-the-cuff'' personal email) to help clarify the rationale
 behind the Debian way of handling symlinks, but this should not be
 seen as an official policy statement by Linus. I'm attaching a
 disclaimer in his own words.

The only reason that Linus's message is quoted in here is that
 he can explain the technical reasons with far more lucidity than I
 can, and now that I have permission to include his mail, I am
 removing most of my far less facile efforts in that regard. 


 David == David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Mon, 24 Feb 1997
 Linus == Linus Torvalds said on Mon, 24 Feb 1997

David Hi Linus,
David No matter how well we try to explain ourselves, the symlinks issue
David keeps coming up.  Would you mind if we used your message below in
David our responses?

Linus Sure. Don't make it the word of God - please point out that
Linus it was a off-the-bat personal reply to a question concerning
Linus this, and while I'm more than happy to have the email
Linus circulated it shouldn't be seen as a official document in any
Linus way..
Linus Linus
---

The headers were included in libc5-dev after a rash of very
 buggy alpha kernel releases (1.3.7* or something like that) that
 proceeded to break compilations, etc.  Kernel versions are changed
 far more rapidly than libc is, and there are higer chances that
 people install a custom kernel than they install custom libc.

libc6 includes it's own version of /usr/include/linux and
 friends form the beginning (that is, this is no longer a Debian only
 feature, the upstream version has moved to this scheme as well).

 Linus == Linus Torvalds said on Wed, 22 Jan 1997:

Linus The kernel headers used to make sense exporting to user space,
Linus but the user space thing has grown so much that it's really not
Linus practical any more. The problem with Debian is just that they
Linus are different, not that they are doing anything wrong. That
Linus leads to differences between the distributions, and that in
Linus turn obviously can result in subtle problems.

Linus As of glibc, the kernel headers will really be _kernel_
Linus headers, and user level includes are user level
Linus includes. Matthias Ulrich did that partly because I've asked
Linus him to, but mainly just because it is no longer possible to try
Linus to synchronize the libc and the kernel the way it used to
Linus be. The symlinks have been a bad idea for at least a year now,
Linus and the problem is just how to get rid of them
Linus gracefully. Personally, I'm counting on glibc, which we are
Linus already using on alpha.

Linus Just to give you some idea of exactly why the includes really
Linus can't be handled by simple symlinks: the main problem is
Linus version skew. Lots of people want to upgrade their library
Linus without affecting the kernel, and probably even more people
Linus want to be able to upgrade their kernel without affecting their
Linus compilation environment. Right now doing that has been
Linus extremely fragile.

Linus Just to give _one_ example of why the symlinks are bad: NR_OPEN
Linus and fd_set. I have had no end of problems making NR_OPEN
Linus larger in the kernel, exactly _because_ of the damn
Linus sym-links. If I just make NR_OPEN larger (the right thing to
Linus do), the problem is that people with old libraries will now
Linus compile against a header file that doesn't match the library
Linus any more. And when the library internally uses another NR_OPEN
Linus than the new program does, interesting things happen.

Linus In contrast, with separate header files, this doesn't make any
Linus difference.  If I change NR_OPEN in the kernel, the compilation
Linus environment won't notice UNTIL the library and associated
Linus header files are changed: thus the user will contine to compile
Linus with the old values, but because we'll still be binary
Linus compatible, the worst 

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-25 Thread James LewisMoss
 Yoav == Yoav Cohen-Sivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yoav  My proposition - let's go for the more casual, yet
 Yoav sophisticated user. A user that DOES want to read the Fvwm man
 Yoav page to learn how to set it up to his own tastes, BUT doesn't
 Yoav want to do it 2 hours after installing the system and in the
 Yoav meantime he would like a nice default to help him get along.

I actually went and got the 'TheNextLevel' package from redhat (it's a
fvwm95 setup that is the standard desktop for redhat) and installed it
with alien after I installed Debian.  I then modified it to do fvwm2
instead of fvwm95.  Anyone who wants a fairly nice setup should
consider it.  It takes some tweaking however to make it work right
under Debian.  It seems to be distributed under the GNU Public License
as well if anyone wants to tackle making a package out of it (i might
if anyone is interested (fvwm2 not fvwm95)).

Jim

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Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-25 Thread Lars Hallberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 eventually you will be forced to upgrade do to changes in libc, the kernel,
 perl, etc.  It is my understanding from what I've read on this list that it
 is pretty much impossible to upgrade an old installation like mine
 without re-installing.

How old? I upgraded my 1.1.0 to 1.2.5 whitout any problems. After reading
about the dselct / perl problems on this list I disided to:
 1 first download all base pakages and install them with dpkg, rerunning dpkg
   some times untill all pakages was installed.
 2 then upgraded all the important pakages with dselect (all else on hold).
   repeted install and configur a numeber of times.
 3 Same procedure for standar pakages and the rest.

Think I manualy stoped cron somway down the road but I dont think thats neded
anymore...

Went ok. Some problems with MH but I don't think its becose the upgrade
methode. X, gcc, latex etc is working! My sysload went high after step one
and login stoped working, making me nervus. All went fine after 60-70min all
by it selfe. Strange but my system was strange before (always been?). I got
to lern more U**X system administration :) (debian makes You get along almost
*too* good without it).

I think the 'hard times of the stabel tree' is more myth the reality. It is
some bugs in 1.2 but You can work around them if You read this list. Most time
You can upgrade/install anything You want and dselect tells You what more it
takes. Do what dselect tells You and it usualy works.

AFAIK the important bugs/missing featurs are worked on. I look forward to the
next stabel releas.

Thanx to everyone for this miracle (Debian, Linux, GNU...)
/Lars

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Re: RC5 challenge proposal

1997-02-25 Thread Juri P Pakaste
Gleb Arshinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 IMO, it would be good publicity to promise 1/3 of potential prize to
 Linux International, 1/3 to FSF, 1/3 to keep for debian, and keep
 running with [EMAIL PROTECTED] identity.

But how much is that 1/3? I know RSA is offering $1, but there's
New Media Laboratories. Do they take a part? I haven't seen anywhere
any explanation about this.

-- 
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Re: Mail and News with UUCP over TCP/IP

1997-02-25 Thread Richard Kettlewell
Stefan Walder writes:

I want to use my Linux-Box at home to get mail and news. I'm using my
Uni-ISP and i want to have several Email-Adresses (my family). And I
don't want to use POP, I think uucp is nicer!  So I want to use uucp
over TCP/IP!  Now my questions:

Particularly for multiple addresses it has its advantages, yes.  I've
some experience of setting it up under SVR4...

It works, though `nice' is not a word I'd use l-)

  1.) Can I use the email-address [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's really a question for your ISP; they will need to take some
action to route mail for whatever domain they give you into your UUCP
queue, you can't normally expect to just have things work by choosing
the right address format.

  2.) What does I need to get and post news? I think I need suck, but is this
  sufficient?

Depends ... there are a variety of programs with names like `slurp'
and `suck' which retrieve news from an NNRP server and (e.g.)  inject
it into your own news server.  They're quite easy to write.  You'll
need NNTP access to feed news that you post back.

I'm assume you'll be running a local copy of INN, though this is not
the only way to do it.

If you want to do the *whole* thing over UUCP that's possible too,
your ISP will set up an outgoing UUCP feed and you must do the same to
feed news back.  Last time I tried to do this it was too hard so I
gave up and just fed news back out by NNTP instead - a good thing I've
never had to do it without TCP/IP being available...

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Re: HD prob - bad inodes

1997-02-25 Thread Ben Gertzfield
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dr. banzai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am having problems installing Debian. Here is what
 happens.

*snip*

I just dealt with a whole host of problems just like this, ranging
from Signal 11 deaths in gcc to bad inodes, like yours. The problem
ended up being a bad setting in BIOS; I turned off Hidden Refresh and
all other Shadow RAM options, and everything's worked fine since. :)

Ben

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Limited size spool/mail/user files

1997-02-25 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

How can I limit the max size of spool/mail/user's files
in order to prevent, e.g., a run of disk space?
 

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Re: RC5 challenge proposal

1997-02-25 Thread Jim Pick

 Gleb Arshinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  IMO, it would be good publicity to promise 1/3 of potential prize to
  Linux International, 1/3 to FSF, 1/3 to keep for debian, and keep
  running with [EMAIL PROTECTED] identity.
 
 But how much is that 1/3? I know RSA is offering $1, but there's
 New Media Laboratories. Do they take a part? I haven't seen anywhere
 any explanation about this.
 
 -- 
 Juri Pakaste/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I saw on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] registration page (I lost the URL), that 
they were competing for $1000 - I assume that New Media would keep the
other $9000.  I'm not really concerned about the money anyways.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?

1997-02-25 Thread Daniel Robbins

I was getting bus errors with the most recent version of Netscape 3.0 
until I turned off Java.  When I installed Communicator Beta 2, it may 
have kept Java turned off, I don't know.  I got a bus error within the 
first few seconds of using it, but I've used it for about 5 hours after 
that with no problem.  So those bus error problems are not isolated to 
Communicator beta 2, that's my point!

On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, David Puryear wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On 25-Feb-97 Christian Hudon wrote:
 On 24 Feb 1997, David Sewell wrote:
 
  Just wondering if any Debian users have tried the new Netscape
  Communicator beta, released a couple of days ago.
  
 
 Tried it with MALLOC_CHECK_=0, only got one bus error. The newsreader was
 working fine for me.
 
 I had to disable java, or it give me buss error and crash every time it hit
 webpage with java. I also get buss error if I do java console. 
 
 Email is not very stable. I like the webpage editor. 
 
 If anyone finds way to make java work without causing bus error, please let me
 know.
 
 Thanks, 
 David
 
 
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Ioannis Tambouras wrote:

 
 On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
  I'd consider running it here (since I have a permanently connected 
  machine with time on its hands), but how much network bandwidth does
  it use -- it's at a premium here.
 
  Including inet headers, the upper limit is about 1k bytes of traffic
 per keyspace block. It all depends on how fast you finish the keyspace block,
 a pentium 133Mz pentium will traffic about 1k bytes every half an hour. 

If it takes such little bandwidth, then someone put it in a .deb package; 
I'll run it on my machine.  How does it work if you are connected to the 
net via PPP for about 2 hours a day?  Do you need to have dial-on-demand?

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University of New Mexico

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What's the best 1.2.6 site?

1997-02-25 Thread Robert Nicholson
The developer mirror sites are a little too volatile.

So, what' the best 1.2.6 mirror?


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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race is running!

1997-02-25 Thread Daniel Robbins
 I'd consider running it here (since I have a permanently connected 
 machine with time on its hands), but how much network bandwidth does
 it use -- it's at a premium here.

The trick with this contest is to track down all of your buddies who are 
system administrators for huge numbers of machines and convince them to 
get the software running on all their systems.  Imagine adding 30 systems 
a pop.

-=-

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School of Medicine Computer Services
University of New Mexico

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Re: Limited size spool/mail/user files

1997-02-25 Thread dpk
I believe this is set in the /etc/smail/config file, you have to modify 
the line:

max_message_size=10M

You can find more options in 'man smailconf'.

Hope this helps you out.

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On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
   How can I limit the max size of spool/mail/user's files
 in order to prevent, e.g., a run of disk space?

 
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Re: porting machines

1997-02-25 Thread Brian Hutchinson
I just received a Atari Falcon 030.  Will the debian 68k
distribution work on this machine?  Anyone else out there
using an Atari?

Thanks,

Brian


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Re: porting machines

1997-02-25 Thread Bruce Perens
Try the boot disks in unstable/disks-m68k. I think they'll work on the
Atari.

Bruce
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] rc5-race FAQ

1997-02-25 Thread Ioannis Tambouras


1. DO I NEED PERMANENT CONNECTIVITY OR DIALD TO RUN THE CLIENT ?


   No. When the client starts, it establishes a tcp connection to
   zero.genx.net and gets a keyspace block, then it closes the connection.  
   Once the key search is done, it will use a another tcp connection to
   return the result and get a new keyspace. There is no reason for internet
   connectivity during keyspace search. 

   When the key search has finished and ppp is not on, the client will 
   initially sleep for one minute and retry. After several times of failed
   attempts to reach the host zero, it will increase sleeping time to 10 
   minutes. 


2. HOW MUCH BANDWIDTH ? 
---

It takes about 1k bytes or traffic per keyspace. For a P-133 that is
about 1k every 30 minutes.



2.  useful URLS  


More info about the contest is at   http://zero.genx.net/ 

Email statistics are at http://zero.genx.net/bill/email.html

RC5 clients are at ftp://portal.stwing.upenn.edu/pub/rc5  (US only)
   
There are non-us sites with clients at   (?? please let me know)


3.   WHY NOT HAVE A DEBIAN PACKAGE ?


 Yes, we want to test one! 



4.   WHAT HAPPENS TO THE $10,000 PRIZE ?


 It is not clear who will declared the winner. Maybe it is top email
 address, or maybe the address that finds the key. Do not know.

 Debian has no official announcement on what will do with the prize. They 
 should. Most likely, part or the whole prize will get donated somewhere.
 (where?) 





4.  WHAT ARE THE CLIENT COMMANDS ?
-- 

To get a keyspace, use something command like this:

% nohup  rc5-client-linux-i586   -i  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  The -i option is needed to register the run to debian.org


OR, to avoid any noticeable delays
% nohup /usr/bin/nice -15 rc5-client-linux-i586   -i [EMAIL PROTECTED]


% rc5-client- -m  gives a rough idea how long is takes to complete
one keyspace. For a P-133Mz it takes about 30 minutes, a 486-133 takes about
46 minutes.


5. ANY TIPS?
--

 On the first try, start with one keyspace and you will see the results in
 30 minutes. 

 The nice(1) is useful prevent noticeable delays. How many keyspaces you
 want depends on how soon you plan to reconnect to isp: with 16 keyspaces
 times 30 minutes per keyspace, you are done approximately 8 hours later.  
 When you reconnect, all the 16 keyspaces will register at once. And if you
 forget to reconnect on time, the processes will sleep, and every minute will
 check for route connectivity. A crontab job comes handy. 

 
  I found it it is inconvenient to manage more than 6 keyspaces at a time. If 
 you want more, let 10 minutes elapse then get another 6 keyspaces. This makes
 it easier to figure out who is about to finish and who just started. And do 
 not kill the wrong ones.

 
 Use renice(1) as root to undo what nice(1) does, if you have to.

 
 If you run high loads, say 20 or more keyspace searches, fetchmail will
 be unable to deliver to smtp. For sendmail, change the sendmail.cf to
 a higher value:
 
   # load average at which we refuse connections
   #O RefuseLA=12
   Needs to be: O RefuseLA=30






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Re: trouble mounting my cd-rom

1997-02-25 Thread Kane Spinato
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lynch)
  
  Did you try /dev/sr0  ???

Thanks for responding. I guess that boot-up message and devices list
should have given me a clue.

There is no /dev/sr0, so I used mknod to make one doing

mknod sr0 b 11 0

I then did

mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/sr0 /cdrom

and got the same error message as before. I mounted this particular cd
before so I'm sure it's ok. Anything that I overlooked?


To follow up, a more recent attempt at mounting a cd yielded this in
/var/log/messages:

Feb 24 21:23:38 spasm kernel: iBCS: socksys registered on character major
30
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: SCSI error: host 0 id 3 lun 0 return code =
28 02
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: ^ISense class 7, sense error 0, extended
sense 4
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: SCSI error: host 0 id 3 lun 0 return code =
28 02
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: ^ISense class 7, sense error 0, extended
sense 4
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: CD-ROM I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 64
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 0b:00
iso_blkn um 16 block 32
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: SCSI error: host 0 id 3 lun 0 return code =
28 02
Feb 24 21:38:21 spasm kernel: ^ISense class 7, sense error 0, extended
sense 4

Are these indications of a hardware problem? I'd hate to yank out the
drive and take it to the vendor, only to have him give it a clean bill of
health.

Reading through c.o.l.hardware, one other person reported similar-sounding
errors using a different SCSI controller and CD drive, and also version
1.2 of the OS. They said that older OS versions had no problems.


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Solved: Gateway Solo 2100 Hanging

1997-02-25 Thread Tres Hofmeister
Tres Hofmeister writes:
: 
: I've just installed 1.2.7 on a Gateway Solo 2100 laptop.
: Unfortunately, some time after installing 2.0.29 and
: pcmcia-source_2.9.1-1 and building a kernel with PCMCIA support
: and support for the nice things one likes on a laptop (APM, etc.),
: it randomly hangs in the first few minutes after booting.  Ouch.

It looks like the answer is to disable the following Advanced
Power Management options in the kernel:

CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE
CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE

Heck.  I've learned a few things about troubleshooting the
boot process whilst loading Linux on laptops lately, anyway!  Thanks...

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Re: Limited size spool/mail/user files

1997-02-25 Thread ciccio
Mario Olimpio de Menezes says:
   How can I limit the max size of spool/mail/user's files
in order to prevent, e.g., a run of disk space?

Use disk quotas

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