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Re: what is frcode?

1997-03-22 Thread jghasler
I wrote:
 But why is it undocumented?

Philippe Troin writes:
 This file is in /usr/lib, it's an internal command. It's most likely
 you'll never have to use it by hand. It's hence undocumented.

Not a good reason.  It should be documented somewhere, even if only with a
line or two in the updatedb man page.
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HTTP Servers

1997-03-22 Thread Rob MacWilliams
I'm trying to learn a little about web servers, so I downloaded cern-httpd.deb 
and started it up.
It seems to be working OK except that it errors when I try a POST command.  

Error 500

This server is not configured to handle POST 

I have put 

Enable POST  
Post/cgi-bin/*  /usr/lib/cern-httpd/cgi-bin/*

in the config file, and kill -SIGHUP 'd it, it still spits out the same error.

Should I continue to play with cern-httpd or should I try another one?   Boa 
looks promising.
This is for very light duty, I'm on a dialup line and this is mostly a learning 
tool/toy.  I avoided
Appache because it's fairly large and I really don't need the features.

Any comments or experience would be appreciated.

Thanks




Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

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Re: gcc - iostream.h

1997-03-22 Thread Philippe Troin


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I recently installed the basic development files - gcc, cpp, 
 binutils, libs, and libs-dev.  When I tried to compile a program with 
 just a cout line it says iostream.h: no such file... 

Did you invoke the compiler with g++ or gcc ?
For compiling C++ programs, you should use g++.

Phil.



Re: what is frcode?

1997-03-22 Thread Philippe Troin

On 21 Mar 1997 18:31:00 CST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wrote:
  But why is it undocumented?
 
 Philippe Troin writes:
  This file is in /usr/lib, it's an internal command. It's most likely
  you'll never have to use it by hand. It's hence undocumented.
 
 Not a good reason.  It should be documented somewhere, even if only with a
 line or two in the updatedb man page.

Do you also want every package to document why every file it installs is there, 
and its meaning ? [[[BIG SMILEY :-) ]]].

Phil.



Re: what is frcode?

1997-03-22 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:

   you'll never have to use it by hand. It's hence undocumented.

Perhaps it could be used for other purposes, By us non-gurus...
or gurus-to-be.

 Do you also want every package to document why every file it installs is 
 there, and its meaning ? [[[BIG SMILEY :-) ]]].

No, just the good ones :)

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does debian 1.2.x support umsdos

1997-03-22 Thread Joseph Zieniewicz
I have an ATT globalyst 362TPC comuter with a s3 trio 64 chip set.
I am now using slackware 2.2 running linux 1.2.1 kernel as a umsdos
file system. It is working fine except I can't get xfx86 running.
I want to upgrade the linux kernel to 2.*.
I am interested in using debian as my linux because I had heard good
reports on debian.
I am interested in a new book from http://www.ssc.com  Linux
Installation 
Getting Started, Version 3 which contains cd-rom with debian Linux
1.2.x.
Does debian support umsdos? Does it have xf86? What version of the 
linux kernel is in debian 1.2.x? I like umsdos because you
don't need lilo which can cause problems because it can mess up your MBR
and it is hard to configure. I also use loadlin to boot up from my dos
partition. umsdos also lets you access all your dos files as it can
coexist with dos.
Please answer by email.
Thanks in advance,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: write-protected filesystems [Was Re: dpkg and shadow]

1997-03-22 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 meierrj == meierrj  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [When I mount] an Iomega Zip drive ... occasionally[,] I get
 the message: sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda4 ...  Is there
 a command out there somewhere to write protect/unprotect disks?

meierrjI am not familiar with Iomega drives but strongly
meierrj suspect that the message is simply a warning that the
meierrj write-protect tab is in the writable position.

 Who was the original poster?  I have a utility that I downloaded
someplace for controlling the Zip drive.  It lets you set the write
protect, amoung other things.

 There is not a tab like on 3.5 floppies.  It's set by a program,
which must write something to the disk telling the hardware to write
protect it.

Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Portland, OR  USA
Debian GNU 1.2  Linux 2.0.29t



errors installing with dselect/ftp

1997-03-22 Thread Ken Gaugler
Hello again.

After downloading a bunch of files in the dselect/ftp process for
updating my system, I reach a point where I get the following DPKG
error:

[...]
stable/binary-i386/doc/manpages_1.11-7.deb
stable/binary-i386/doc/doc-debian_1.4-0.deb
stable/binary-i386/comm/lrzsz_0.12b-1.deb

Do you want to install the files fetched [y]: y
Installing files...
dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and
/sbin.
DPKG ERROR

and I can't seem to get it to work after this.  I checked to see that
ldconfig was in root's path:

bash# echo $PATH
/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
bash# which ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig

Is there another configuration file I need to fix or something?  I
didn't see this problem mentioned in the Jan97 or Feb97 archives.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: what is frcode?

1997-03-22 Thread Raja R Harinath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I wrote:
  But why is it undocumented?
 
 Philippe Troin writes:
  This file is in /usr/lib, it's an internal command. It's most likely
  you'll never have to use it by hand. It's hence undocumented.
 
 Not a good reason.  It should be documented somewhere, even if only with a
 line or two in the updatedb man page.

locatedb(5) has the following:

 updatedb runs a program called frcode to compress  the  list
 of  file  names  using  front-compression, which reduces the
 database size by a factor  of  4  to  5.   Front-compression
 (also known as incremental encoding) works as follows.

- Hari

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g++ file doesn't run

1997-03-22 Thread Jeff Shilt
Thanks for the help - it does compile with g++ instead of gcc, but the 
executable produced isn't doing anything.  Here's what i'm doing:

//test.c
#include iostream.h

main(){
  cout  Hello there.;
}

The test file doesn't print out anything when I run it.

Also, I was wondering if this was a descrepency in versions of gcc.  The 
installaition I had before (using the main parts of the Slackware dist.) 
compiled both c and c++. Like somehow it knew which way to process it.


Re: Upgrading from slackware to debian

1997-03-22 Thread Perry Piplani
On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, Dima wrote:

 
 Also, it's (Slackware's) a great first Linux for those who like to
learn swimming in 
 the deep end of the pool.
 

Back in the pioneer days, that's all there was...a deep pool.

Time flies like arrows, but fruit flies like bananas

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Re: what is frcode?

1997-03-22 Thread jghasler
Philippe Troin writes:
 Do you also want every package to document why every file it installs is
 there, and its meaning ? [[[BIG SMILEY :-) ]]].

Yes (no smiley).  Readable files such as configuration files and shell
scripts can be largely self-documenting, but yes, I think every file should
be documented.
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Re: does debian 1.2.x support umsdos

1997-03-22 Thread Perry Piplani
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Joseph Zieniewicz wrote:

 Does debian support umsdos? 

Debian does not support umsdos although with a liitle hacking you can
create a umsdos partition, umsync it, and put the debian base distribution
on it.

However, I do not reccomend this. The performance is cruddy, and it's not
necessary.


 Does it have xf86? 

Yes.

 What version of the 
 linux kernel is in debian 1.2.x? 

Last I checked... 2.0.27


 I like umsdos because you
 don't need lilo which can cause problems because it can mess up your MBR
 and it is hard to configure. I also use loadlin to boot up from my dos
 partition.

You do not need to use umsdos just to use loadlin in leiu of lilo. Loadlin
can boot linux on an ext2 partition just as easily.

 umsdos also lets you access all your dos files as it can
 coexist with dos.

Linux on an ext2 can also access your dos partions. In fact if you have
win95 it can access your long filenames.

Time flies like arrows, but fruit flies like bananas

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Re: Powermanagment

1997-03-22 Thread Joseph Skinner



On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Stefan Walder wrote:

 Hi,
 
 can I put down the power of my monitor when I'm running X?
 

Check out the try adding the line

option power_saver

to your XF86Config file where your video card is described and this will
switch your monitor into standby mode after about 1/2 an hour if your card
supports it.

Joe.
 
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Re: g++ file doesn't run

1997-03-22 Thread Perry Piplani
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Jeff Shilt wrote:

 //test.c
 
 The test file doesn't print out anything when I run it.

try typing 'which test' and find out what program your really running
then type 'man test' to see what it does.

Then give your program a new name.


Time flies like arrows, but fruit flies like bananas

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Re: errors installing with dselect/ftp

1997-03-22 Thread Perry Piplani
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Ken Gaugler wrote:

 NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and
 /sbin.
 DPKG ERROR

 bash# echo $PATH
 /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
 bash# which ldconfig
 /sbin/ldconfig
 

I don't know if this will work but try cd'ing to / before starting
dselect. I've had trouble with dselect finding files in the past and that
seemed to fix it. 


Time flies like arrows, but fruit flies like bananas

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Re: Metro-X ver 3.1.5

1997-03-22 Thread Lawrence Chim
Matthew Tebbens wrote:
 
 Metro-X 3.1.5
 -
 For those interested; I just installed Metro-X version 3.1.5 on 2 of my
 debian systems and it works great. I had no problems with the install and
 no problems when I configured it. The installer package that debian has is
 for the old version. I didn't see any reason to have an installer for this
 version, it was very simple to install and use.
 
 Matthew

the installer provides xserver and if you use the installer, you have to
install
at least a XFree86 X server from x11 directory, otherwise you end up
with a
dependency problem.

Lawrence,


Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)

1997-03-22 Thread John Goerzen
But that still doesn't solve the problem of viewing the Unix print queue
from within Windows.  That works with regular lpr, but not lprng.

   On Mar 5, Craig Sanders wrote:

 but that's not necessary at all. with samba, printers listed in
 /etc/printcap appear on the Win3/Win95/etc machines printer list (this
 is the default for the debian package - you can turn it off if you like)
 - Win users can select it and print to it just like any other printer.
 
 Here's an excerpt of relevant parts from my /etc/smb.conf file which
 works on my network.
 
 [global]
printing = lprng
load printers = yes
 
 [printers]
comment = All Printers
browseable = no
path = /tmp
printable = yes
public = no
writable = no
create mode = 0700
 
 Once you've set this up, you should be able to see the linux box's
 printer(s) in Network Neighbourhood on the Win95 machines. Can't
 remember what the Win3 equivalent is, but the linux printers show up on
 Win3 too.
 
 I have samba, lprng, and magic-filter installed.  it works brilliantly.
 
 craig
 
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Unicode capable editors ?

1997-03-22 Thread Ricardas Cepas

Hello,

Is there any editor for Debian or Linux in general
capable to display UTF-8 without X ?

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XFree Specifications for Samsung SyncMaster 17GLsi Monitor?

1997-03-22 Thread Alexander Lazarevic
Hi!

Can anyone provide me with the Monitor specifications, which I need to
insert into the XF86Config file, for the

Samsung SyncMaster 17GLsi ?

Alex.

PS: Yes, I haven't got the monitor manual. :)


Re: g++ file doesn't run

1997-03-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mar 03, 1997 at 10:23:30PM -0500, Jeff Shilt wrote:
 Thanks for the help - it does compile with g++ instead of gcc, but the 
 executable produced isn't doing anything.  Here's what i'm doing:
 
 //test.c
 #include iostream.h
 
 main(){
   cout  Hello there.;
 }
 
 The test file doesn't print out anything when I run it.

As I understand it, Unix terminal IO is buffered, so nothing will
be written until a newline is sent. You never sent one, so all
bets are off; the standards don't guarantee anything if you don't
send at least one new line. (Similarly by default even character
by character input won't see anything until the user presses return).

Try

#include iostream.h

main()
{
cout  Hello there.  endl;
}

You would theoretically get no output from

#include stdio.h

main()
{
printf(Hello there.);
}

either. I haven't checked though.


Hamish
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Printer trouble

1997-03-22 Thread barknech


I am trying to set up a NEC Silentwriter S60P-Printer for use under Debian 1.2. 
It is a Postscript-Printer, but I don't have any documentation. (Found the 
device in a 
factory's trash...)
It works great with Win95, but I am not able to print anything with Linux. 
'lpr' does nothing, 
and I cannot cat a file to /dev/lp1 (as root, of course). I do not use plip, so 
there can't 
be any clashes at the parallel port?

I fiddled around with tunelp, but it keeps saying things like:

#   bash# tunelp /dev/lp1
#   /dev/lp1 using polling
#   bash# tunelp /dev/lp1 -s
#   /dev/lp1 status is 223, on-line
#   bash# tunelp /dev/lp1 -i 11
#   /dev/lp1 using IRQ 11
#   bash# tunelp /dev/lp1 -s   
#   /dev/lp1 status is 223, on-line

with no positive effect on printing.
I compiled lp-support as a module in the kernel, kerneld starts it at boot time.

#   bash# dmesg | grep lp
#   lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)

Somehow the printer seems to receive data, when I try to print, because its
display says 'PROCESSING` , but then it becomes `READY` again.
Anyhow: No output in tray.

Can someone help me? Are there any tools to debug my problem further than with 
tunelp?
Like a kind of 'ping' for lp-devices?

Thank you in advance
Frank Barknecht
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Forcing X to reread config file safely?

1997-03-22 Thread Alexander Lazarevic
Hi!

I'm currently trying to set the best settings for my X-Display. After
changing
/etc/X11/XF86Config
I used to do a
/etc/init.d/xdm stop
followed by
/etc/init.d/xdm start

Using this method gets me a locked machine sometimes (Can't type
anything in the tty or switch ttys). So I suspect, that this ain't the
right way.

Is sending the XServer a SIGHUP the recommended way, or pressing
CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or something else?

Alex.




Problems working with bash.

1997-03-22 Thread Alexander Lazarevic
 I've read the man page on bash several times now, but I can't find out
how to get the following to work:

- In a tcsh I can do $var:r, which gives me 'name' if $var contaned
'name.ext'. How can I do this with bash?

- In tcsh I can type anything on the command line and do a search on the
history list matching this input by pressing ALT-P. How do I do that
with bash?

Alex.



Re: g++ file doesn't run

1997-03-22 Thread Lars Hallberg
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt writes
:
 On Mar 03, 1997 at 10:23:30PM -0500, Jeff Shilt wrote:
  Thanks for the help - it does compile with g++ instead of gcc, but the exec
-utable produced isn't doing anything.  Here's what i'm doing:
  
  //test.c
  #include iostream.h
  
  main(){
cout  Hello there.;
  }
  
  The test file doesn't print out anything when I run it.
 
 As I understand it, Unix terminal IO is buffered, so nothing will
 be written until a newline is sent. You never sent one, so all
 bets are off; the standards don't guarantee anything if you don't
 send at least one new line. (Similarly by default even character
 by character input won't see anything until the user presses return).
 

I think buffers are suposed to get flushed when a program terminates
normaly, but I would try this anyway if nofing else helps :) The other
sugestion on the list (another 'test' is run) is more likly. You can try
runing Your own 'test' by spesifying the path (./test).

/Lars
 
 Hamish
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Re: what is frcode?

1997-03-22 Thread jghasler
Raja R Harinath writes:
 locatedb(5) has the following:
 ...
 ...

Ok. IMHO it should be mentioned in updatedb(1L) since updatedb calls it,
but that's nitpicking.  At least it is documented, and updatedb itself
provides a usage example.
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Re: g++ file doesn't run

1997-03-22 Thread Matt Lawrence
At 10:23 PM 3/21/97 -0500, Jeff Shilt wrote:
Thanks for the help - it does compile with g++ instead of gcc, but the
executable produced isn't doing anything.  Here's what i'm doing:

//test.c

Don't call it test.

-- Matt


Re: XFree Specifications for Samsung SyncMaster 17GLsi Monitor?

1997-03-22 Thread John M. Rulnick
The following should work; use it at your own risk, but rest assured
it works for me:

Section Monitor

Identifier  Primary
VendorName  Samsung
ModelName   SyncMaster17GLsi

HorizSync   30-85
VertRefresh 50-120

# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline 640x400 25.175 640  664  760  800   400  409  411  450
# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline 640x480 25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine 800x600 36 800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625
# 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
Modeline 1024x76844.9  1024 1048 1208 1264   768  776  784  817 Interlace

# 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline 640x480 31.5   640  680  720  864   480  488  491  521
# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 800x600 40 800  840  968 1056   600  601  605  628 +hsync 
+vsync

# 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline 800x600 50 800  856  976 1040   600  637  643  666 +hsync 
+vsync
# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline 1024x768651024 1032 1176 1344   768  771  777  806 -hsync 
-vsync

# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
Modeline 1024x768751024 1048 1184 1328   768  771  777  806 -hsync 
-vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
Modeline 1280x1024   801280 1296 1512 1568  1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace

# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
Modeline 1024x768851024 1032 1152 1360   768  784  787  823
# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
Modeline 1280x1024  1101280 1328 1512 1712  1024 1025 1028 1054

# 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync
Modeline 1280x1024  1351280 1312 1456 1712  1024 1027 1030 1064

# 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync
Modeline 1280x1024  1351280 1312 1416 1664  1024 1027 1030 1064

EndSection


Re: what is frcode?

1997-03-22 Thread Ken Gaugler
Sorry I asked!  :-)
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Only ping works with slip.

1997-03-22 Thread Carlos Marcos Kakihara

Hi, I have this C class network:

The Network
~~~
   gw-1 gw-2
+ -- +   + -- +
| Serial |---| Serial |   stress
||   || + -- +
Internet|  eth0  |   |  eth0  |-|  eth0  |
+ -- +   + -- + + -- +

The problem
~~~
On gw-2 (Debian), everthing works fine (ping, ftp, lynx) for all
hosts (e.g. sunsite.unc.edu, ftp.cs.helsinki.fi, linux.if.usp.br).

On stress (Debian), only ping works for all that hosts. When I
ftp some sites above (e.g., linux.if.usp.br), it halts at this point:

[stress]:~$ ftp linux.if.usp.br
Connected to fma4.if.usp.br.
220 fma4 FTP server (Version wu-2.4(12) Wed Oct 23 12:44:26 MET DST 1996
ready.
Name (linux.if.usp.br:bacate): ftp
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password: bacate@
230- 

. . .

Nothing happens. In some sites, ftp works.

If I put a - before bacate@ (no welcome messages), I can log in to
the system, but I think that a dir may 

[stress]:~% ftp linux.if.usp.br
Connected to fma4.if.usp.br.
220 fma4 FTP server (Version wu-2.4(12) Wed Oct 23 12:44:26 MET DST 1996)
ready.
Name (linux.if.usp.br:bacate): ftp
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password: -bacate@
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp


. . .

On gw-2 all things above work.
Please, someone help me! I'll send routes and name server
configurations if necessary.

Bacate..


IDE Zip drive

1997-03-22 Thread Douglas Bates
Thanks to the suggestions from this list I do indeed have the IDE Zip
drive working.  The command
  mount -t msdos /dev/hdb4 /mnt
is successful.  Apparently I didn't try all the possible combinations
previously.  The web pages at http://www.torque.net/zip.html are very
helpful.


Re: Problems working with bash.

1997-03-22 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, Alexander Lazarevic wrote:

 - In a tcsh I can do $var:r, which gives me 'name' if $var contaned
 'name.ext'. How can I do this with bash?

   This will strip the shortest suffix that matches .*

  ${var%.*}

   This will strip the longest suffix that matches .*

  ${var%.*}

   There are several other approaches.  It's all documented in
   the bash man page.

 - In tcsh I can type anything on the command line and do a search on the
 history list matching this input by pressing ALT-P. How do I do that
 with bash?

  Ctrl-R

-- 
Jean Pierre




Re: gcc - iostream.h

1997-03-22 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
The normal debian installation automatically searches the
correct directory so I'm not sure why you're having
problems.  To get around the problem, simply direct g++ to
search in that directory:

   g++ -I /usr/include/g++

-- 
Jean Pierre


On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Jeff Shilt wrote:

 I recently installed the basic development files - gcc, cpp, binutils, libs, 
 and libs-dev.  When I tried to compile a program with just a cout line it 
 says iostream.h: no such file...
   I remeber seeing a lot of this on the linux newsgroup, and there seemed to 
 be as many theories as there were answers.
   In usr/lib there is a link to /usr/include/g++ which does have iostream.h 
 in it.  But how do I make gcc look there?


How to get dir colors to work?

1997-03-22 Thread johannes martinez
What files does one have to edit to get ls to display colors?  And as a
total aside, how do you get xdm working?  It says starting xdm at the
end of my boot but all i get is a nice console prompt.

johannes martinez


gcc stuff

1997-03-22 Thread Seth Reinosa
How do I get a program to read data from a document not a function?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.eznet.net/~seth
Thanx
and may God Bless you
Seth R


Re: Only ping works with slip.

1997-03-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
Only ping working is often a symptom of using slip when cslip is expected.

Bob

On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, Carlos Marcos Kakihara wrote:

 
   Hi, I have this C class network:
 
   The Network
   ~~~
  gw-1 gw-2
   + -- +   + -- +
   | Serial |---| Serial |   stress
   ||   || + -- +
 Internet|  eth0  |   |  eth0  |-|  eth0  |
   + -- +   + -- + + -- +
 
   The problem
   ~~~
   On gw-2 (Debian), everthing works fine (ping, ftp, lynx) for all
 hosts (e.g. sunsite.unc.edu, ftp.cs.helsinki.fi, linux.if.usp.br).
 
   On stress (Debian), only ping works for all that hosts. When I
 ftp some sites above (e.g., linux.if.usp.br), it halts at this point:
 
 [stress]:~$ ftp linux.if.usp.br
 Connected to fma4.if.usp.br.
 220 fma4 FTP server (Version wu-2.4(12) Wed Oct 23 12:44:26 MET DST 1996
 ready.
 Name (linux.if.usp.br:bacate): ftp
 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
 Password: bacate@
 230- 
 
   . . .
 
   Nothing happens. In some sites, ftp works.
 
   If I put a - before bacate@ (no welcome messages), I can log in to
 the system, but I think that a dir may 
 
 [stress]:~% ftp linux.if.usp.br
 Connected to fma4.if.usp.br.
 220 fma4 FTP server (Version wu-2.4(12) Wed Oct 23 12:44:26 MET DST 1996)
 ready.
 Name (linux.if.usp.br:bacate): ftp
 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
 Password: -bacate@
 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
 Remote system type is UNIX.
 Using binary mode to transfer files.
 ftp
 
 
   . . .
 
   On gw-2 all things above work.
   Please, someone help me! I'll send routes and name server
 configurations if necessary.
 
 Bacate..
 
 
 


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


Re: Upgrading from slackware to debian

1997-03-22 Thread Rick
On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Paul Christenson [N3EOP] wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote:
 
  What is the difference between Red-Hat, Debian and Slackware?
 
 Slackware:  One of the oldest distributions, and is showing its age.
 Created as a bugfixed version of SLS (Softlanding Linux System).
 Maintained by one person (Patrick Volkerding); home site: Walnut Creek
 CD-ROM (www.cdrom.com).  No package tool available.  Very slow to get
 updated; no interim upgrades.  Considered by many old-timers to have
 lost it with the latest version (3.1), as most of the new parts are
 added flash, with most known security problems left untouched.
 
 Red Hat:  Available in two versions; shareware and commercial.  Most of
 the software is the same; the commercial version used to have a commercial
 X server included.  Maintained by several paid people; home site: Red Hat
 Software (www.redhat.com).  Package tool available.  Reasonably quick in
 bugfixes, sometimes slow in major updates (one of the last to have a
 version with a 2.x kernel).  Versions available for DEC Alpha and SPARC.
 Rumored to be one of the easiest to set up (it and I simply don't get
 along).  Was the base for the original Caldera Network Desktop (a
 commercial version of Linux, with many interesting additions).
 
 Debian:  Maintained by over a hundred volunteers, each maintaining one (or
 several) package.  Package tool available; able to use Red Hat packages.
 Hosted by CrossLink; home page (www.debian.org).  Overall, one of the
 fastest with updates and bugfixes; in many cases, the program author is
 the package maintainer.  Initial installation has had its share of
 gotchas, mainly dealing with dependencies.  (Don't install everything at
 once; install the recommended packages on the initial installation, then
 install a few packages at a time afterward.)
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 

I would like to add that the software it's self is Linux (whatever
version) the different distributions are just different configurations of
the same software, basically.  There are some added scripts and special
binaries that are package specific but there purpose is generally only to
aid in the installation or configuration of the software.  The different
distributions may package different binaries of extra goodies as they see
fit but it's purpose is to put it all together for the normal ppl.  Anyone
could D/L everything seperately and call it his own without being a
particular distribution.  

It's like buying an office suite (package) of 3 or 4 programs at the
store. You could get them seperately but they've been packaged.

--Rick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: gcc stuff

1997-03-22 Thread bruce
[how do I get a program to read data from a document]

Try to glance over all of the manual pages in section 2 and 3.
Do an ls of /usr/man/man2, and then use man to display the
individual pages using a command like man 2 accept. Just a glance
at each page will get you started, you'll know where to look when you need the
functions. Section 2 is system calls, section 3 is other C library
functions. There are a number of C newbie resources on the net, I
don't know their names but do a web search and you'll find them.
I'd also suggest you get some good books on C programming under Unix.

Thanks

Bruce


Re: lpr: connect: No such file or directory

1997-03-22 Thread Rick
On 18 Mar 1997, Gerd Bavendiek wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just tried to install another network printer. After fiddling with
 /etc/printcap I got problems. To make a longer story short: I decided
 to dpkg -r lpr. This went fine. So I reinstalled lpr, using
 lpr_5.9-12.deb.
 
 After setting up rm and rp in /etc/printcap I tried lpr ...
 
 This is what I got (doing this as root):
 
 zaza:/mnt lpr /etc/passwd
 lpr: connect: No such file or directory
 jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
 
 Someone any hints ?
 
 Gerd  
 
 

I've not experienced that one yet.  Try dpkg --configure --pending
It looks like lpr is there but not setup properly.  If that doesn't work
try using dselect to wipe out lpr (using _ underscore) then re-install
it.  It will set it up for you properly and tell you the dependencies
etc...

--Rick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


lsof problem

1997-03-22 Thread Klaus Wacker
This is my problem:


# lsof
lsof: kernel symbol address mismatch: init_aout_binfmt
  get_kernel_syms() value is 0x3842d0c; /boot/System.map-2.0.27 value
is 0x130580.
  There were 2 additional mismatches.
  /boot/System.map-2.0.27 and the booted kernel may not be a matched
set.


/boot/System.map-2.0.27 and the booted kernel are a matched set, they were
both created by one invocation of make-kpkg. What went wrong?

I have lsof 3.65-5 and kernel-package 3.19 installed, with dpkg-gencontrol
patched as described by Manoj Srivastava in his message of 12 Feb 1997.

-- 
Klaus Wacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
51°29'9N 7°25'9E   http://www.physik.uni-dortmund.de/~wacker


Re: A lot of errors while installing (dselecting) bo

1997-03-22 Thread Rick
On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Andreas Tille wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm the one who frequently asks questions about installing :-(.
 
 I used the ftp-method. Is it right, if I selected
   [bo non-free distrib]
 or should I use stable (in front of this list) too?

The files are dependant on order.  To update properly you should put what
are expected to be the most recent files at the end of the list.
Otherwise you may not be shown newer files that exist in other tree's.
 
[stable contrib non-free Debian1.2-updates unstable]

 When installing the selected files I got many error-messages. Some of
 them are:
 
 2) The next stands as an example for an error, which occured at many
packages:
 
findutils_4.1-20.deb:
  unable to create `usr/bin/find': textfile busy

Should have done a ps -aux to see if find was being used at the time.  If
not check for a lingering lock file.

couldn't figure out type of at_3.0.deb
Couldn't get info for: unstable/binary-i386/admin/at_3.0
 
 Does anybody think that it is a problem of the unstable tree. But if this
 would be the case anybody would have reported such serious errors before.

I have experienced similar errors when the package list has the wrong file
name in it.  Try D/Ling it yourself and using dpkg -i [file].  See if
you get the same errors.  If so I would think the info was corrupted.

--Rick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Security Issue

1997-03-22 Thread Rick
On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote:

 
 I'm not sure if this is normal, but it seems that any file owned by
 someone else and in one of my directories can be deleted by me even
 if I don't have the proper permissions to do so. I also can rename the
 file, but I can't alter the file. This holds true even if the file
 is owned by root.
 
 Is this normal ?

If this is true: 

-rw---   1 root root   61 Mar 22 15:14 test.dat

Then YES!!! a big problem.

 If so, what things can I do to someone elses file thats in one of my
 directories , just delete or rename the file ?

If you own the directory.

 As root, what if I want to keep a file in someones directory without them
 deleteing it ?  As I see it now, that can't be done ?!?!?

It can be overridden by the dir owner from what I can see.  There may be a
way to prevent it though.  I would think.

--Rick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


cfdisk: Cannot seek on disk drive

1997-03-22 Thread Michael Iles
Hi, I'm trying to install Debian Linux 1.2 and things were going well until I 
got to the 'partition hard drive' part. The _first_ time I picked this choice I 
 editted my partition information to include a Linux and a Linux Swap 
partition. When I tried to save these changes, though, I got a message saying

 FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive

Every subsequent time I try to start cfdisk, I immediately get the same message 
about not being able to seek, so now I can't even see the partition information.

I can run DOS fdisk and make changes to the partition information, and my 
pre-existing partitions (Win95 and WinNT) still function normally. I tried 
giving cfdisk the disk geometry information on the command-line, but it still 
gave me the error.

I have only one physical drive, a 3.8 gig Quantum Fireball that Linux correctly 
detects. (At least I think it does; I can see its name go by in all the 
hardware information that Linux prints while starting.) If I switch to a 
different console, though, I can't see anything on the drive (there's nothing 
in the /target directory). It did read the partition information _once_ though, 
so I assume it can see the drive.

What's going on here? Can anyone help me on this?

Mike


Re: cfdisk: Cannot seek on disk drive

1997-03-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, Michael Iles wrote:

 Hi, I'm trying to install Debian Linux 1.2 and things were going well until I 
 got to the 'partition hard drive' part. The _first_ time I picked this choice 
 I  editted my partition information to include a Linux and a Linux Swap 
 partition. When I tried to save these changes, though, I got a message saying
 
  FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive
 
 Every subsequent time I try to start cfdisk, I immediately get the same 
 message about not being able to seek, so now I can't even see the partition 
 information.
 
 I can run DOS fdisk and make changes to the partition information, and my 
 pre-existing partitions (Win95 and WinNT) still function normally. I tried 
 giving cfdisk the disk geometry information on the command-line, but it still 
 gave me the error.
 
 I have only one physical drive, a 3.8 gig Quantum Fireball that Linux 
 correctly detects. (At least I think it does; I can see its name go by in all 
 the hardware information that Linux prints while starting.) If I switch to a 
 different console, though, I can't see anything on the drive (there's nothing 
 in the /target directory). It did read the partition information _once_ 
 though, so I assume it can see the drive.

Have you tried running Linux fdisk, rather than cfdisk?  I had some
problems with cfdisk, but fdisk worked flawlessly.

Bob


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


Re: lpr: connect: No such file or directory

1997-03-22 Thread Lynn F. Coker
-- [ From: Lynn F Coker * EMC.Ver #3.2 ] --

Please delete me from your email distribution list.  I am not the Lynn Coker who
cares about stuff like this.

Thanks.

Lynn
 REPLY, Original message follows 

Date: Saturday, 22-Mar-97 02:10 PM

From: Rick \ Internet:([EMAIL PROTECTED])
To:   Gerd Bavendiek   \ Internet:([EMAIL PROTECTED])
cc:   debian user  \ Internet:(debian-user@lists.debian.org)

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Subject: Re: lpr: connect: No such file or directory

On 18 Mar 1997, Gerd Bavendiek wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just tried to install another network printer. After fiddling with
 /etc/printcap I got problems. To make a longer story short: I decided
 to dpkg -r lpr. This went fine. So I reinstalled lpr, using
 lpr_5.9-12.deb.
 
 After setting up rm and rp in /etc/printcap I tried lpr ...
 
 This is what I got (doing this as root):
 
 zaza:/mnt lpr /etc/passwd
 lpr: connect: No such file or directory
 jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
 
 Someone any hints ?
 
 Gerd  
 
 

I've not experienced that one yet.  Try dpkg --configure --pending
It looks like lpr is there but not setup properly.  If that doesn't work
try using dselect to wipe out lpr (using _ underscore) then re-install
it.  It will set it up for you properly and tell you the dependencies
etc...

--Rick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 REPLY, End of original message 



Problem with rebuilt kernel

1997-03-22 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine

Hi all.  I've just recompiled my kernel by going through the

make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
make zlilo

procedure, but the new kernel won't boot properly.  It gets as far as:

...
VFS:  Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly
Unable to open an initial console

This Unable to open an initial console error is driving me nutty.  The
computer just hangs at this point.  The reason I'm able to send mail to
you now is because I backed-up my old kernel.

Some changes I made in the make menuconfig configuration were that I
took out PCMCIA support (since I'm not on a laptop) and added triton
chipset support.  I also took out ISDN, ethernet, fddi, and token ring, since
my machine is stand-alone.  I must have made some other changes, though, to
get this nasty error...

Any info on this is greatly appreciated.  Thanks :)

-- Harmon


Re: Remove

1997-03-22 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Engineering wrote:

 How do I remove myself from recieving mail from this list?
 
Send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message
body (and subject line) containing only the word: unsubscribe

Luck,

Dwarf
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  Flexible Software  11000 McCrackin Road
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Re: Problems working with bash.

1997-03-22 Thread Guy Maor
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This will strip the shortest suffix that matches .*
 
   ${var%.*}
 
This will strip the longest suffix that matches .*
 
   ${var%.*}

Oops.  ${var%%.*} strips the longest.  And using # instead of % will
strip from the beginning.


Guy