Re: Amiga Filesystem mounting bother.
Ok, just noticed this in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help: Amiga FFS filesystem support (EXPERIMENTAL) CONFIG_AFFS_FS The Fast File System (FFS) is the common filesystem used on harddisks by Amiga (tm) Systems since AmigaOS Version 1.3 (34.20)... If you want to be able to mount hard disks you also need CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION in order for the kernel to understand the partition table on the disk. (This option does not seem to be mentioned in Configure.help.) /Anders -- -- Of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. Anders Hammarquist | This space | [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetGuide Scandinavia | intentionally left blank | Fax: +46 31 50 79 39 http://www.netg.se | | Tel: +46 31 50 79 40 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: kernel free page
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from G. Kapetanios at Apr 30, 97 01:44:44 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G. Kapetanios) And George said: Re: kernel free page Recently I compiled and installed kernel 2.0.30. Today I got two messages I have never got before garfield kernel: Couldn't get a free page garfield eth0: Memory squeeze, deferring packet Does anyone know what these mean ?? Thanks in advance for any help. George Hi George, I don't know exactly what they mean. I get similar ones, and a ttyS0 overrun one, and a couple of others. I just tell myself that the kernel always acted on these same symptoms before, only it didn't bother to report them to the console, whereas now it does. Or, perhaps, these errors are being logged to a high-profile alert system, instead of silently to disk log, by programming oversight. You know? I'm probably kidding myself. Heh. Christopher --- p.s. Here are all related errors, logged, since the new kernel build on Sunday (a little compressed in format, for decorum's sake): Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel: Loaded 3876 symbols from /boot/System.map. Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel: Symbols match kernel version. Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel: Linux version 2.0.30 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Sun Apr 27 09:30:24 EDT 1997 Apr 28 04:08:54 Apr 28 04:54:10 Apr 28 05:07:20 Apr 29 04:04:51 Apr 29 04:11:23 tingri kernel: .. all said: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s) Apr 29 06:06:38 tingri kernel: Couldn't get a free page. Apr 29 06:06:40 tingri kernel: eth0: Couldn't allocate a sk_buff of size 1514. Apr 29 06:06:40 tingri kernel: eth0: Couldn't allocate a sk_buff of size 1514. Apr 30 04:00:31 tingri kernel: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s) Apr 30 04:31:33 tingri kernel: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s) -- Christopher W. Hafey (1:142/540) - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| 1078 New Britain Ave Apt 217 WA1TNR since 1974 | W Hartford Ct USA 06110-2434 http://www.tingri.ml.org | tel. 860-236-5400 - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: kernel free page
$ bug kernel-source-2.0.30 (never sent) Package: kernel-source-2.0.30 Version: 2.0.30-1 Versions of the packages kernel-source-2.0.30 depends on: binutilsVersion: 2.7-3 gas Not installed or no info Hmm.. wonder if I need 'gas'. . . -- Christopher W. Hafey (1:142/540) - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| 1078 New Britain Ave Apt 217 WA1TNR since 1974 | W Hartford Ct USA 06110-2434 http://www.tingri.ml.org | tel. 860-236-5400 - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Audio, Printer queue and Mouse button
Just answering N. 1 (I hope this URLs still exist, it is a long I don't visit them). If it is an AWE 32 (I don't have it, so didn't test that driver): http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/ There is probably no need to go to the following: http://xfactor.wpi.edu/private/witek/awe/ Maybe these can be useful in future: http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/ (It was a pleasure to answer copying the addresses with gpm paste capacity, from one virtual console to another.) Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for messages from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address no autoresponse messages will return even when I'm not at home. --- On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Daniel Karlsson wrote: Hi! I've got three questions: 1) I have no sound on my computer. I guess I don't have a proper module installed, but I don't seem to have one. Could anyone tell me its name if this is the fault? I have a Soundblaster 32 sound card. It works fine with Windows so there's no wrong with the card. 2) How do I empty the printer queue? 3) How can I make my middle mouse button work. I've tried all options in the configuration, but none of them works. Thank you, _ __ __ | _ \ | |/ / | E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | | ' / | WWW : http://www-und.ida.liu.se/~c95danka/ | | | | | | | Tel : 013 - 17 82 76 | | |_| | | . \ | Adress: Rydsvägen 246 C:21 584 34 LINKÖPING | |/ aniel |_|\_\ arlsson |__| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: E-Mail Setup Question - new server
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Kevin Traas wrote: 1. The accounts on vnet will have to exist on hicks before hicks will accept e-mail for those users, right? Yes. You have to set up the accounts first. 2. What problems might I have with incoming mail? i.e. If a message was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then it's going to bounce because vnet no longer exists. What about mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] @DN should be fine as long as the records in your name server point to the new machine. As far as the flip of a switch, it's almost that easy. Set up the old machine as a virtual host in sendmail routing the mail to the appropriate persons. When your ready just change the MX records for the old machine to point to the new machine. It will accept and process them. You may be able to use aliasing in sendmail (or whatever) instead of a virtual host but I've never tried that. I hope I didn't leave anything out, it's been a while since I've setup virtual host's etc... Hope it's helpful. Thanks for your help, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Edmondson Roper CA http://www.eroper.bc.ca Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Edmondson Roper CA http://www.eroper.bc.ca -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
rxvt
Hello all, I have a strange problem. When I am using xterm, my backspace key acts like Ctrl-H which is fine. However, if I use rxvt, my backspace key gives me rubbish. I do not understand. I thought if one key works in xterm, it should has the same behaviour in rxvt. Can someone tell me how to change the behaviour of backspace key in rxvt to normal? By the way, I am using Acer Win-95 keyboard. Thanks very much in advance! Anthony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
utmp troubles
I just installed Debian 1.3 on a new machine that I am setting up, and I found that the utmp entries don't seem to be acting correctly. If I have a user logged in on several virtual terminals, each login shows when I do a 'who', as I would expect. When I log the user out of one virtual terminal, however, it removes the utmp entry for that terminal and another which that user is still logged into. I just tested this via telnet logins, and the utmp updates seem to work correctly, so this appears to only be a problem when virtual terminals are being used at the console. If you have suggestions as to what might be going on, or how to isolate what exactly is misbehaving, please let me know. As it is, this is something I can live with, since I don't plan on allowing console accessability, but I thought I would mention it, as it seems broken. -- Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org [ question: Is there an opposite to adduser? ] If you look at /usr/sbin/deluser directly, you'll see it's a Perl script. A quickly hack too, judging both on the comments and on the functionality. Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-) Many of us end up editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group, with nothing more elaborate than vi. There could be a lint tool (like weblint, etc.) just for the purpose of checking the integrity of these files. Perhaps one exists, and it's even right under my nose. But I haven't found it yet. Thanks for your thoughts, Dirk. They're appreciated. Chris -- Christopher W. Hafey (1:142/540) [EMAIL PROTECTED]| 1078 New Britain Ave Apt 217 WA1TNR since 1974 | W Hartford Ct USA 06110-2434 http://www.tingri.ml.org | tel. 860-236-5400 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Christopher W Hafey wrote: Many of us end up editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group, with nothing more elaborate than vi. There could be a lint tool (like weblint, etc.) just for the purpose of checking the integrity of these files. Perhaps one exists, and it's even right under my nose. But I haven't found it yet. I guess you're looking for grpck(8) and pwck(8) commands. They are part of the passwd package. -- Jaldhar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: utmp troubles
At 05:38 PM 30/04/97 -0700, Paul Hancock wrote: [...] If I have a user logged in on several virtual terminals, each login shows when I do a 'who', as I would expect. When I log the user out of one virtual terminal, however, it removes the utmp entry for that terminal and another which that user is still logged into. [...] I take you you've got sysvinit version 2.70-1 installed. I reported a bug on this and I'm pretty sure it should be fixed in sysvinit-2.71-1 try installing it - it'll be in the archive soon. Regards -- Karl Ferguson, Tower Networking Pty LtdTel: +61-8-9456-[EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online ServicesFax: +61-8-9455-2776[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rxvt
On Thu, 1 May 1997, A.D.Y. Cheng wrote: Hello all, I have a strange problem. When I am using xterm, my backspace key acts like Ctrl-H which is fine. However, if I use rxvt, my backspace key gives me rubbish. I do not understand. I thought if one key works in xterm, it should has the same behaviour in rxvt. Can someone tell me how to change the behaviour of backspace key in rxvt to normal? By the way, I am using Acer Win-95 keyboard. I've read that the key mappings are fixed for rxvt at compile time. You may want to look at the Mini Keysetup HOWTO (spelling may vary). This doc will tell you about the rxvt v.s. xterm issue. I've had luck with rxvt by using the .inputrc file suggested in the HOWTO. I use bash. Luck. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PCMCIA Ethernet card?
I am looking for recommendations for a PCMCIA ethernet card with both thinnet and 10bt and a modest price tag. This only need work with linux. rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
runq missing
I updated to frozen bo and now I get email from cron saying /bin/sh: runq: command not found Anybody have this problem? When I did the upgrade I swithced from smail to sendmail. Cron experiences this error every 20 min's. 0,20,40 min's in the hour. I checked crontab, daily, weekly, monthly, and atjobs but I don't have anything configured to run at 0,20,40 hourly. I could use a hand if anybody knows what's causing this. Thanks, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PCMCIA Ethernet card?
On Thu, 1 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for recommendations for a PCMCIA ethernet card with both thinnet and 10bt and a modest price tag. This only need work with linux. I have been using an NDC Instant link which cost about $100 at Elek-Tek. A word of caution on PCMCIA ethernet cards in general, the connection between the Dongle and the card is pretty flimsy. Get some self stick velcro and attach the Dongle to the side of your laptop. I ruined a Linksys netcard (Never had a chance to test it under Linux, and cost more than the NDC) by applying too much stress to the connector. Dave Thayer Denver, Colorado USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
binary problems
Hiya, I'm having a strange problem with some machines here. Both are pentiums running debian which have the same versions of all software on them. The kernel version is 2.0.30. Within the last couple hours, something's happened to cause them to have trouble executing binaries. One was an executable I compiled, the other was doom (even more important). The message I get after executing is: [executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable. And yet running file on it gives: [executable]: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped which should be fine. (This same program works on another Linux machine I have) I thought it might be a problem with binutils or libbfd but reinstalling them didn't help. For some reason, recompiling the first application seemed to fix the problem but with doom, I'm stuck (and with any other executable I download). Any ideas why this is happening? Thanks, J. Goldman -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: one thing latex is better than tetex
On 29 Apr 1997, Philip Rangel wrote: I could not reproduce this bug. try to reconfig your divps, running texconfig. I had to make a symlink ln -s /usr/lib/texmf/dvips/config /etc/texmf/dvips Just like to add that teTeX and dvips are working great. GV shows the page numbers perfectly. :) Hope you can solve the problem soon! :) Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-Ling[EMAIL PROTECTED] Civil Engineeringhttp://www.ualberta.ca/~foka/ University of Alberta, CanadaKeep smiling! *^_^* -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: binary problems
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote: [executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable. Just a wild guess. Try ldd on the file and ckeck that all the sharded libraries are OK. For example: :-) timshel:/etc# ldd /usr/local/games/doom/linuxsdoom libvga.so.1 (DLL Jump 1.1pl8) = /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout/libvga.so.1 libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) = /lib/libc.so.4 ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: binary problems
Hi, Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't heard of ldd before. Unfortunately, when I tried ldd linuxxdoom, it resulted in: ldd: Cannot execute linuxxdoom (Binary format error) or some such. I tried running ldconfig as well and that didn't seem to help. Maybe libc4 isn't work right... J. Goldman -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: binary problems
On Thu, 01 May 1997 01:32:53 CDT Jesse Goldman ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ov) wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't heard of ldd before. Unfortunately, when I tried ldd linuxxdoom, it resulted in: ldd: Cannot execute linuxxdoom (Binary format error) Recompile the kernel with support for a.out binaries. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: runq missing
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: I updated to frozen bo and now I get email from cron saying /bin/sh: runq: command not found Anybody have this problem? When I did the upgrade I swithced from smail to sendmail. runq is a part of smail, not sendmail. with sendmail, just run 'sendmail -q '. alternatively, make a shell script or bash-alias called runq which does that. Cron experiences this error every 20 min's. 0,20,40 min's in the hour. I checked crontab, daily, weekly, monthly, and atjobs but I don't have anything configured to run at 0,20,40 hourly. check /etc/crontab, and also check the files under /var/spool/cron/crontabs craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: runq missing
Yea. I found it a few hours ago. I never checked my root crontab since I never added anything to it, but smail did when it was installed and never removed it when it was removed. Another guy told me to check daemon and uucp crontabs. While I was looking I checked my root crontab and there it was. I surely appreciate the help, though. On Thu, 1 May 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: I updated to frozen bo and now I get email from cron saying /bin/sh: runq: command not found Anybody have this problem? When I did the upgrade I swithced from smail to sendmail. runq is a part of smail, not sendmail. with sendmail, just run 'sendmail -q '. alternatively, make a shell script or bash-alias called runq which does that. Cron experiences this error every 20 min's. 0,20,40 min's in the hour. I checked crontab, daily, weekly, monthly, and atjobs but I don't have anything configured to run at 0,20,40 hourly. check /etc/crontab, and also check the files under /var/spool/cron/crontabs craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: help with printing, please...
sorry, this is a second request... Is there any way I can send what's actually showing on the on the screen to the printer? I'm trying to get XFree86 running and getting a lot of error messages. I'd like to be able to print these out so I can try to address the problems without having to write everything down... As is obvious, I'm really new at this Linux stuff, so I'm still very much in the thrashing around stages. I've seen a lot of answers, but seem to have missed someone that mentioned redirecting the standard error stream, that usually contains the errors. I would suggest you send the messages to a file before printing (because there can be many of them). Supposing you start X using startx, that would be in bash: startx my_errors 21 in tcsh: startx my_errors Hope this helps, Eric Meijer E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ... but now I'm straying :-) deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have useradd and userdel which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to do the real work. Mike. -- |Miquel van | I need more space Well, why not move to Texas | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | No, on my account, stupid. Stupid? Uh-oh..| | PGP fingerprint: FE 66 52 4F CD 59 A5 36 7F 39 8B 20 F1 D6 74 02 | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
how to safely install libc6..
Heya.. geez:) I'm encountering too many problems lately.. anyways.. I just tried to install libc6 from unstable.. (yes.. I know.. unstable.. but I dont care:) How can I safely install it? because libc6 conflicts with libc-dev and libc5-dev provides libc-dev.. but if I try to remove libc5-dev I'll break alot more packages.. Should I just wait with installing libc6 or does anyone know a safe way on doing this? -Paul -- Paul van Berlo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: binary problems
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote: I'm having a strange problem with some machines here. Both are pentiums running debian which have the same versions of all software on them. The kernel version is 2.0.30. Within the last couple hours, something's happened to cause them to have trouble executing binaries. One was an executable I compiled, the other was doom (even more important). The message I get after executing is: [executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable. And yet running file on it gives: [executable]: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped which should be fine. (This same program works on another Linux machine I have) I thought it might be a problem with binutils or libbfd but reinstalling them didn't help. For some reason, recompiling the first application seemed to fix the problem but with doom, I'm stuck (and with any other executable I download). Any ideas why this is happening? You haven't recompiled your kernel, or moved your modules around, or something? The problem appears to be that your files are a.out, rather than ELF like most binaries, which is what ZMAGIC (and QMAGIC, I'm not sure on the difference) means. It looks like your system may not be able to find the code to run code in a.out format any more. I tried this on my system (using one of the four a.out executables I have left! I'm afraid I couldn't find a ZMAGIC at all ...), by renaning the module file and trying to run it. As you can see, I got roughly the same error: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file `which bible` /usr/local/bin/bible: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mv /lib/modules/2.0.29/fs/binfmt_aout.{o,tmp} [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bible bash: /usr/local/bin/bible: cannot execute binary file [Exit 126] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mv /lib/modules/2.0.29/fs/binfmt_aout.{tmp,o} [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bible bible: BRS Release 4.00, $Date: 93/04/26 11:18:28 $ Hit '?' for help. Genesis 1 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. bible(KJV) [Gen1:1] q [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ --- The fix is to recompile your kernel, and include support for a.out binaries either as a module or in the kernel. If you just want it as a module (which I'd recommend), you probably only need to make the modules. I have no idea why it compiled as a.out for you, though ... HTH, E -- Andy Mortimer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netforward.com/poboxes/?andy.mortimer Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key -- Give me life, give me pain, Give me myself again. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
At 10:40 PM 4/30/97 -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Christopher W Hafey wrote: Many of us end up editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group, with nothing more elaborate than vi. There could be a lint tool (like weblint, etc.) just for the purpose of checking the integrity of these files. Perhaps one exists, and it's even right under my nose. But I haven't found it yet. I guess you're looking for grpck(8) and pwck(8) commands. They are part of the passwd package. -- Jaldhar I have passwd 1.0-5, but find neither of those commands. -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] DANEnet, Connecting Dane County's Communities http://danenet.wicip.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
At 11:38 AM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ... but now I'm straying :-) deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have useradd and userdel which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to do the real work. Heh-heh, but these are NOT in Debian. Which is part of my point. I'd be happy to these used in Debian. -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] DANEnet, Connecting Dane County's Communities http://danenet.wicip.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:38 AM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ... but now I'm straying :-) deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have useradd and userdel which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to do the real work. Heh-heh, but these are NOT in Debian. Which is part of my point. I'd be happy to these used in Debian. Oh but they are: $ dpkg -S useradd passwd: /usr/sbin/useradd passwd: /usr/man/man8/useradd.8.gz $ dpkg -l passwd Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii passwd 961025-2 Change and administer password and group dat Mike. -- |Miquel van | I need more space Well, why not move to Texas | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | No, on my account, stupid. Stupid? Uh-oh..| | PGP fingerprint: FE 66 52 4F CD 59 A5 36 7F 39 8B 20 F1 D6 74 02 | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how to safely install libc6..
On May 1, Paul van Berlo wrote geez:) I'm encountering too many problems lately.. anyways.. I just tried to install libc6 from unstable.. (yes.. I know.. unstable.. but I dont care:) How can I safely install it? because libc6 conflicts with libc-dev and libc5-dev provides libc-dev.. but if I try to remove libc5-dev I'll break alot more packages.. Should I just wait with installing libc6 or does anyone know a safe way on doing this? The safest way is to create a libc6 development system on a separate partition or as a chroot()ed environment. I took the chroot() approach yesterday. The resulting directory structure, to be used with chroot(8) can be found tarred up at ftp://ftp.wi.leidenuniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray/highly-experimental/libc6-build-env.tar.gz This is _highly experimental, it works for me_ stuff. Note that for building most programs you'll have to wait for libraries that work with libc6. Greetings, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Oh but they are: $ dpkg -S useradd passwd: /usr/sbin/useradd passwd: /usr/man/man8/useradd.8.gz $ dpkg -l passwd Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii passwd 961025-2 Change and administer password and group dat Mike. Thanks Mike. That makes a lot more sense to me. It would also make more sense to me if the adduser utility used useradd/userdel, instead of trying to roll it's own. A single interface (might as well call it an API) is all we need to build any passwd maint tool, be it command line or GUI based. Now I get to figure out why I have danenet:~ dpkg -l passwd Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==-= === ii passwd 1.0-5 Change password data. and not the passwd pkg you have. But that's another story ... -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] DANEnet, Connecting Dane County's Communities http://danenet.wicip.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
In your email to me, Dirk Herr-Hoyman, you wrote: At 11:38 AM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ... but now I'm straying :-) deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have useradd and userdel which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to do the real work. Heh-heh, but these are NOT in Debian. Which is part of my point. I'd be happy to these used in Debian. Funny.. I have them... Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps It's almost impossible to overestimate the unimportance of most things. -- John Logue ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PCMCIA Ethernet card?
I've used the Linksys EC2T successfully. -- Jean Pierre On Thu, 1 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for recommendations for a PCMCIA ethernet card with both thinnet and 10bt and a modest price tag. This only need work with linux. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mirror of Larry and Joe's Package Finder in Sweden
Hi! A mirror of Larry and Joe's Package Finder is now available in Sweden at URL: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1temp/cgi-bin/finder.cgi It actually works a little slower than the original site, probably because the disks here are NFS mounted while they're local at earthlight, but it might be an option if your route to NZ is alot slower than to Sweden. Problems with the mirror should be addressed to me, not Larry or Joe. /Michael -- |Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out... | |Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, TDGP#20 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Cell.Phone:+46 705487554 URL:http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1temp | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rxvt
A.D.Y. Cheng wrote: Hello all, I have a strange problem. When I am using xterm, my backspace key acts like Ctrl-H which is fine. However, if I use rxvt, my backspace key gives me rubbish. I do not understand. I thought if one key works in xterm, it should has the same behaviour in rxvt. Can someone tell me how to change the behaviour of backspace key in rxvt to normal? By the way, I am using Acer Win-95 keyboard. Thanks very much in advance! Anthony You can change the backspace key stty. If you want Backspace to have the backspace function, then you would use 'stty erase ^h' (yes, type the ^, don't use CTRL). If you want Delete to have the backspace function (in fact, this is the Unix standard, or at least it used to be) you would use 'stty erase ^?'. If you use bash it generally works with either--I don't know if this feature is due to the readline library or what. I suspect you don't use bash. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: :At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: : :Oh but they are: : [ see thread ] : :ii passwd 961025-2 Change and administer password and :group dat :Mike. : [more stuff deleted] :=== :ii passwd 1.0-5 Change password data. : I also get 1.0-5 when I do a dpkg -l passwd. I also don't have shadow passwords. I seem to recall a useradd function in the shadow password package which I installed back in the Red Hat days. Mike, is it possible that you're running shadow passwords, hence the disparity? I personally don't mind adduser, although it's pretty hairy to figure out what's going on since I'm not a perl wizard. So far it's worked for me. I would like to get back to shadow passwords, though. Cheers, Nathan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
At 09:28 AM 5/1/97 -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: :At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: : :Oh but they are: : [ see thread ] : :ii passwd 961025-2 Change and administer password and :group dat :Mike. : [more stuff deleted] :=== :ii passwd 1.0-5 Change password data. : I also get 1.0-5 when I do a dpkg -l passwd. I also don't have shadow passwords. I seem to recall a useradd function in the shadow password package which I installed back in the Red Hat days. Mike, is it possible that you're running shadow passwords, hence the disparity? I did a check of what's out there in dselect. It's the 1.0-5 passwd pkg. Where ARE you getting this pkg, Mike? -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] DANEnet, Connecting Dane County's Communities http://danenet.wicip.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:28 AM 5/1/97 -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: :At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: : :Oh but they are: : [ see thread ] : :ii passwd 961025-2 Change and administer password and :group dat :Mike. : [more stuff deleted] :=== :ii passwd 1.0-5 Change password data. : I also get 1.0-5 when I do a dpkg -l passwd. I also don't have shadow passwords. I seem to recall a useradd function in the shadow password package which I installed back in the Red Hat days. Mike, is it possible that you're running shadow passwords, hence the disparity? I did a check of what's out there in dselect. It's the 1.0-5 passwd pkg. Where ARE you getting this pkg, Mike? $ ll bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb -rw-rw-r-- 1 archive archive217082 Apr 19 10:10 bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb Debian 1.3 AKA frozen AKA bo Mike. -- |Miquel van | I need more space Well, why not move to Texas | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | No, on my account, stupid. Stupid? Uh-oh..| | PGP fingerprint: FE 66 52 4F CD 59 A5 36 7F 39 8B 20 F1 D6 74 02 | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
At 05:06 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: I did a check of what's out there in dselect. It's the 1.0-5 passwd pkg. Where ARE you getting this pkg, Mike? $ ll bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb -rw-rw-r-- 1 archive archive217082 Apr 19 10:10 bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb Debian 1.3 AKA frozen AKA bo Ok, so this is in a future release of Debian. I appreciate this info Mike, but I'm right back to my original point. The useradd and userdel are not really part of Debian. Not today. Not on dselect. And while it's great that they will be in 1.3, I am NOT going to upgrade a live system to a just released upgrade. It is helpful to know that this is coming down the tubes as now I know how much custom fussing to do over the current account maint system that I'm working on. -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] DANEnet, Connecting Dane County's Communities http://danenet.wicip.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
emacs giving fatal error on new installation
Hi, We've just switch from Slackware to Debian 1.2 on a AST Premmia SE/66 and we are getting a fatal error (11) segmentation fault when we run emacs. This is our third system the put Debian on and the first time this has happen. Any suggestions on where we've could of gone wrong would be appreciated. Rick Berger (819) 953-7019 Labour Operations Applications Development Human Resources Development Canada -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: binary problems
I have had to rerun ldconfig at times for no apparent reason in order to get my system behaving normally too. It seems like it sometimes looses its mind and re-running ldconfig gets things going again. It does not happen often, maybe once in a month. On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Thu, 1 May 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote: [executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable. Just a wild guess. Try ldd on the file and ckeck that all the sharded libraries are OK. For example: :-) timshel:/etc# ldd /usr/local/games/doom/linuxsdoom libvga.so.1 (DLL Jump 1.1pl8) = /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout/libvga.so.1 libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) = /lib/libc.so.4 ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
.fvwm2/ hook problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I decided to finally make use of the debian menu system by converting my old .fvwm2rc into the various hook files that live in .fvwm2/ but I seem to be missing something - I added the line + I Module FvwmButtons to .fvwm2/init-restart.hook and then started fvwm2 and the hook wasn't parsed. I eventually just added the following 4 lines (marked by CRT) to /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc as a temporary fix: DestroyMenu InitFunction AddToFunc InitFunction + I Exec setup-background + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/init.hook + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/init-restart.hook + I Read .fvwm2/init.hook + I Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook # CRT Read .fvwm2/init.hook Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook DestroyMenu RestartFunction AddToFunc RestartFunction + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/restart.hook + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/init-restart.hook + I Read .fvwm2/restart.hook + I Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook # CRT Read .fvwm2/restart.hook Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook What am I missing or is this a bug? Cheers, Colin. - -- Colin R. Telmer, Department of Economics, Dunning Hall Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada, K7L-3N6 Phone: (613)545-2273 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://terrapin.econ.queensu.ca PGP Fingerprint = 09 E9 DA 66 9C EE 33 DC B8 3B 97 0E 01 BC EC 0B PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM2i7NRhhzOJJktw1AQGY1QQAhonpn4+PUrIbR7TLLIVoSB3WtFn+Z//h JBDBbZ+wlf4mr+hmOFrtdzu/eZA/YdFOWL+zFgrRZ871RTbjEsITVuzSG1eukpNg nP1+jG996Vd0BG497IYVI0zvCN7p7bTTDyMdabaSPvM2Qqn7ompWQ07wRfY4/iDt sLHjLEtGGfc= =17ga -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
elm.rc Where is it?
Hello, i want to set up elm, but nowhere i can find the configuraton file elm.rc. I am using a Debian 1.2.6 and elm is at Version 2.4. I have searched after it, but i can't find it...Has the name been changed? Ciao..bjoern -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation
On Thu, 1 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We've just switch from Slackware to Debian 1.2 on a AST Premmia SE/66 and we are getting a fatal error (11) segmentation fault when we run emacs. This is our third system the put Debian on and the first time this has happen. Any suggestions on where we've could of gone wrong would be appreciated. This kind of error is usually the result of faulty hardware. There are several things you can try. From the BIOS setup, you should be able to turn the caches off. This is the most probably location for the problem. Many new machines use overclocked memory in cache to get the high speeds needed. This and other timing problems can show up with Linux when MSDOS programs work just fine. Try disabling cache memory and see if the problem goes away. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: If you look at /usr/sbin/deluser directly, you'll see it's a Perl script. A quickly hack too, judging both on the comments and on the functionality. I just went thru the exercise of setting up a Debian based server for a community network, and I ended up modifying both adduser and deluser (and delgroup) for our purposes. Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ... but now I'm straying :-) Well, what exactly do you want a deluser command to do? If you accidently create a new account and get it wrong, there may be a case for deleting it and starting over. But once a user has been on a system for a while, is it really sensible to remove them /without trace/. In particular, do you remove all their files. If you do, what about other people's dependencies on them. If you don't, then you really need to leave a trace of the deleted user. Otherwise you might reissue their UID number and someone will inherit those files. So, just like Debian has put forth a great deal of effort in the dpkg, and I take my hat off to it, there ought to be a similar effort put forth for user account administration. My question here, is whether there is such an effort under way? It would be interesting to hear what you think ought to be contained therein (and what sort of modifications you had to make for your own purposes). -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation
This is just something for the think tank. I thing Dale is more than likely correct, but a few months ago I was getting segmentation faults whenever I would try to run man (maybe some others I don't remember right now). The problem was that for some reason when I installed linuxconf, I believe, and changed files back manually it stopped setting my hostname. I don't understand it but when I set the hostname it stopped giving me the error. I just wanted to throw another possibility in for you to think about. On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Thu, 1 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We've just switch from Slackware to Debian 1.2 on a AST Premmia SE/66 and we are getting a fatal error (11) segmentation fault when we run emacs. This is our third system the put Debian on and the first time this has happen. Any suggestions on where we've could of gone wrong would be appreciated. This kind of error is usually the result of faulty hardware. There are several things you can try. From the BIOS setup, you should be able to turn the caches off. This is the most probably location for the problem. Many new machines use overclocked memory in cache to get the high speeds needed. This and other timing problems can show up with Linux when MSDOS programs work just fine. Try disabling cache memory and see if the problem goes away. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: elm.rc Where is it?
I don't use elm but most, if not all, *rc files on my system are .*rc. Maybe if you look for .elmrc? I'm talking about in your home directory ofcourse. On Thu, 1 May 1997, Bjoern Starke wrote: Hello, i want to set up elm, but nowhere i can find the configuraton file elm.rc. I am using a Debian 1.2.6 and elm is at Version 2.4. I have searched after it, but i can't find it...Has the name been changed? Ciao..bjoern -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?
At 06:23 PM 5/1/97 +0100, David Wright wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: If you look at /usr/sbin/deluser directly, you'll see it's a Perl script. A quickly hack too, judging both on the comments and on the functionality. I just went thru the exercise of setting up a Debian based server for a community network, and I ended up modifying both adduser and deluser (and delgroup) for our purposes. Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ... but now I'm straying :-) Well, what exactly do you want a deluser command to do? If you accidently create a new account and get it wrong, there may be a case for deleting it and starting over. But once a user has been on a system for a while, is it really sensible to remove them /without trace/. In particular, do you remove all their files. If you do, what about other people's dependencies on them. If you don't, then you really need to leave a trace of the deleted user. Otherwise you might reissue their UID number and someone will inherit those files. I'd certainly like to have the option of deleting the user account, completely. And this would include entries not only in /etc/passwd, but /etc/group too. I have to mess with /usr/bin/delgroup to get it to work AT ALL, and it's still not perfect. Neither deluser nor delgroup are particularly sophisticated, unlike adduser which does account for many more cases. So, just like Debian has put forth a great deal of effort in the dpkg, and I take my hat off to it, there ought to be a similar effort put forth for user account administration. My question here, is whether there is such an effort under way? It would be interesting to hear what you think ought to be contained therein (and what sort of modifications you had to make for your own purposes). The issues that caused me to modify adduser/deluser/delgroup were these: * Users were in 2 groups, ordinary and information providers. And neither were to get to a standard shell, the shell would be a script that ends up running lynx. The meant we need more then just admins and users. Each group of user needs it's own set of groups and skel files for the home directory. * The information providers got directories created outside their home directory. This would be under a web server. We didn't want to use the ~username URL, thus we created dirs elsewhere. Most of what I ended up doing was changes to adduser. What was missing was a sense of multiple groups of users. This was done primarily by adding a -cfg option to let you call in your own configuration file. Additionally, provision was made in the conf to call a custom script, instead of the universal one in /etc/adduser.local. I basically borrowed this idea from AIX (gosh, AIX *is* good for something). Now, once you go down the road of a custom action when add an account, then you need one when you delete it too. Thus, the simplistic deluser/delgroup are insufficient for our needs. I ended up writing script that called these, but also did other actions on it's own. None of this is rocket science. And as others have noted, the SysV useradd and userdel do provide a more comprehensive and somewhat standard interface into the passwd and group. But, even if it's not rocket science, it still needs to be done and I don't like to think about it when I do it. Nor should you, as that means you WILL make mistakes. What still strikes me as odd is that given the age of Unix, we are still editing the passwd with vi. My real target user for this account administration is not me and no doubt this would be common. My target user is knowledgable, but busy. He just wants to be sure new accounts get added correctly, more than anything else. -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] DANEnet, Connecting Dane County's Communities http://danenet.wicip.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fatal server error..
I am running Debian release 1.2 on my 586/133mhz...and trying to get XFree86 up and going... when I start up I get a message fatal server error: could not create audio connection block info and the machine seems to hang for quite awhile. Obviously there's something I haven't done here, but I'm still trying to get a handle on this stuff. any suggestions out there? TIA!! -- Steve Morrill Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED].. + PGP pub key id: 0xF2459FCD header changed to prevent spamming! + Linux..it's not just an OS, + it's an adventure! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
problem: getting nfs up and running
I'm trying to get nfs to allow my users on the client machines to have access to their home directories on the server. I recently was given these helpful hints: Add this line to your server's export: /home *.your domain (rw) Then reboot, or do /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs start Add this line to your client's fstab: server's name:/home /home nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,bg,intr Then do mount -a I did all this, and when I executed the nfs start, I got this message: Starting remote filesystem services: Notice that none of the nfsd,mountd,ugidd, etc..., lines are being printed to the screen. Am I missing a basic setup step? Thanks in Advance... Mike Devine Eastern Washington University -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem: getting nfs up and running
On Thu, 01 May 1997 11:58:53 PDT Michael J Devine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm trying to get nfs to allow my users on the client machines to have access to their home directories on the server. I recently was given these helpful hints: [snip] I did all this, and when I executed the nfs start, I got this message: Starting remote filesystem services: Notice that none of the nfsd,mountd,ugidd, etc..., lines are being printed to the screen. Am I missing a basic setup step? What does your /etc/exports look like ? Do you have the portmapper running ? Did you try to run rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd by hand ? Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: elm.rc Where is it?
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Bjoern Starke wrote: i want to set up elm, but nowhere i can find the configuraton file elm.rc. I am using a Debian 1.2.6 and elm is at Version 2.4. I have searched after it, but i can't find it...Has the name been changed? According to the output of dpkg --listfiles elm, you shouldn't have one. I'm sure you can make one, but it's an optional file. Check /usr/doc/elm for further info... Of course, you could make one Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fatal server error..
It sounds to me like you're using a window manager that has a sound module but sound isn't in your kernel. Go through the *rc file for the window manager and comment out the sound module portion. Then try again to see if that is the only problem. Look for something like this. # Start the Audio player Module Audio - Afterstep entry Module FvwmAudio - Fvwm2 and Fvwm95 entry It would be easier if we knew which window manager you are using. On Thu, 1 May 1997, smorrill wrote: I am running Debian release 1.2 on my 586/133mhz...and trying to get XFree86 up and going... when I start up I get a message fatal server error: could not create audio connection block info and the machine seems to hang for quite awhile. Obviously there's something I haven't done here, but I'm still trying to get a handle on this stuff. any suggestions out there? TIA!! -- Steve Morrill Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED].. + PGP pub key id: 0xF2459FCD header changed to prevent spamming! + Linux..it's not just an OS, + it's an adventure! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: This is just something for the think tank. I thing Dale is more than likely correct, but a few months ago I was getting segmentation faults whenever I would try to run man (maybe some others I don't remember right now). The problem was that for some reason when I installed linuxconf, I believe, and changed files back manually it stopped setting my hostname. I don't understand it but when I set the hostname it stopped giving me the error. I just wanted to throw another possibility in for you to think about. Lack of a host name will cause several useful parts of the system to segfault. This is why there is a default value provided during installation (among other reasons). Segfaults are by no means only obtained by faulty hardware. Faulty software can produce them as well. The key point in this particular problem was that two earlier machines had the same software installed on them and they produced no such errors. If software runs on one machine and not on another, it is a pretty fair assumption that it is faulty hardware on the other machine. This is not always the case, but it makes a good starting point for debugging. This is specially true when the error is erratic, happening at different times, and not always. I have an old 486 that can't make it through a kernel install because of problems with cache, but if the source files didn't get corrupted during installation (yep it even trashes file copies occasionally) I only need to restart the make and it will, eventually, finish building the kernel. Errors range from signal 11, to sytax errors, and even undefined variables. Each of these errors fails to occur on a successive run of make and the process is completable. Note: I don't do this kind of work on that machine normally, and the machine runs WindBlows quite happily. Well, the machine is happy anyway ;-) Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
FAST ACM! But broken timer? Gurus needed. Was: ACM 4.7-3 with Debian Linux 1.2.4
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote: On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote: Sad to say, I'm not replying to my own question about Air Combat Maneuvers under Debian 1.2.4... Not yet... ... And not yet, but I can rebuild the binaries now... I notice that with a workaround ACM runs fast. But it is not a clean solution, and together with 'xlock -mode rotor' being that slow it makes me wonder about possible changes to some timers (?) behaviour under Debian. PLEASE, give a look at the script I put as first text attachment, I've been working some time to write those remarks, there is a section in great evidence focusing the problem. The script is replicated in the tgz I put as second attachment, also containing the patch files used by the script. (Last night I also got ACM 4.8 from ftp.netcom.com/pub/ra/rainey/acm/ and it is even a greater package to learn from, but I can't rebuild it for Linux yet, this time :-) it seems it is not enough going to /usr/include/sys/ and typing 'ln -s file.h filio.h', nor I can fix the -lelf test done by the configure script just with -L/usr/lib/elf.) Thanks to anybody getting curious about this (so far) misterious timing topic. Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for messages from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address no autoresponse messages will return even when I'm not at home. --- #!/bin/bash # Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Debian 1.2.4 # May 1st 1997. Dirty workaround (a few tiny patches) to rebuild ACM # and have it run fast. # I'm a newbie to Debian Linux so please consider just READING this # script, checking that nothing here is going to put your system in a # mess, and possibly running each step typing it by hand (don't forget # the environment variable) and checking what the result is before # proceeding (of course everything is fine HERE with the acm-4.7-3 # source tree found in the Debian 1.2.4 CD from CheapBytes [that is # ftp'ed from the Debian site]). # As you can see, the Debian 1.2(.4) CD is assumed to be mounted under # /cdrom but you will most probably comment out that line and untar # the acm source tree by yourself. Anyway you should be in the parent # of the acm-4.7/ directory where the source tree starts. # patch A could be avoided: # # 1) if -lelf was working in the test performed by the configure #script (which is not, almost here, I have to say -L/usr/lib/elf #to ld, though that library appears in the result of 'ldconfig -v' #or 'ldconfig -D'); # 2) if you put a symbolic link inside /usr/include/sys: #ln -s file.h filio.h # The other patches are rather brutal as they act AFTER the configure # script to modify the produced Makefiles. Like this (and with context # diff files!) if any peculiarity of the system leads to slightly # different Makefiles then automatic application of the patches is # most likely going to fail. THAT'S WHY I SUGGEST TO PROCEED MANUALLY # STEP BY STEP. And if any patch fails, then it should be rather easy # to read the patch file yourself and modify the destination file with # an editor. Of course, a clean job would be going back to the # Imakefile's and act BEFORE the configure script. # - #I M P O R T A N T # # Everything is configured and compiled with REAL_DELTA_T=no but it # should *NOT* be necessary: old binaries working well under other # Linux installations I tested/I still have here on the same machine # are VERY slow with Debian 1.2.4, just like if I rebuild the binaries # without that environment variable set to no. I was trying to do # some profiling (*) (just add -pg to the optimization flags turned on # by patch B1, or proceed A-configure-B-C instead of A-configure-B1-C1 # in order to do profiling on the binaries built without the # REAL_DELTA_T=no environment setting) but I have not investigated # that much so far... maybe USE OF A TIMER... maybe some system guru # has the answer immediately (but none answered so far on the mailing # list debian-user@lists.debian.org). # # # Also (but don't know whether it is related or not) # 'xlock -mode rotor' # is very slow and is worth some profile session. In the patches/ # directory there is a patch I applied HERE to the source tree got # as # /cdrom/rex-fixed/source/x11/xlockmore_3.11.orig.tar.gz # + # /cdrom/rex-fixed/source/x11/xlockmore_3.11-3.diff.gz # # in order to be able to rebuild the executeable and to switch on # profiling (**). What about that sub_timers(...) function? # # # (*) (**) See 'man gprof' #
Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: Lack of a host name will cause several useful parts of the system to segfault. This is why there is a default value provided during installation (among other reasons). Segfaults are by no means only obtained by faulty hardware. Faulty software can produce them as well. The key point in this particular problem was that two earlier machines had the same software installed on them and they produced no such errors. If software runs on one machine and not on another, it is a pretty fair assumption that it is faulty hardware on the other machine. This is not always the case, but it makes a good You're absolutely right. That's why I indicated that it was more than likely the hardware. I just figured I'd let him know that it could be a software error, and not corrupt sofware, but a configuration problem. Just in case he installed and made some change he feels wouldn't cause it. Until I experienced the hostname problem I never would have thought a system configuration problem would cause a segmentation fault. Which perhaps I should report as a bug. Have a good one, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation
I finally found our AST's bios utility disk and it seems all cache memory is disabled. I sort of suspected this since we were running 1.2.5 on it for the past two years without problems. Re the hostname well that has been set. Also we re-installed emacs. As for the other two machines they're DELL Poweredges, so sure there still could be a hardware problem, but then why did it run ok with 1.2.5? Rick Berger (819) 953-7019 Labour Operations Applications Development Human Resources Development Canada -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
pg command for linux?
Hello all. I'm an instructor for a certificate course in C and UNIX. Currently we are using SCO, but for the C++ course, I would like to use linux -- mainly because I can use the GNU debugger to better display the internal workings of the C++ language (SCO's C++ compiler is C-front, so their debugger can't display things like the this pointer -- at least not to my knowledge). However, everyone in the class is used to SCO, in particular the pg command, which is a paired-down version of less. Does anyone know if there is a pg command out there somewhere for LINUX? Any info is much appreciated. Thanks. -- Harmon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Postscript to ?
Can anyone think of a utility or word processor that can read Postscript files and save them in a common WP or even TeX format? The reason being, I need to move a few years' worth of word processing files off my A3000-040 and the only useful/portable format I can come up with is to print everything to Postscript. This includes stuff like my thesis and dissertation fragments, articles, etc., which I don't really want as ASCII files, if I can avoid it. I know, should have used TeX. Not a hacker, though, and LyX keeps quitting on me. Must be a new generation of Debian user. ;-) On a related note, has anyone ever set up PLIP between a Linux box and an Amiga (running AmiTCP/IP)? I have the PLIP mini how-to and it looks like it can be done--any quirks? Cheers, and thank you, Nikolaj -- Nikolaj Richers, North York, Canada, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
/sbin/dump unable to resolve 'ext2_llseek'
On Tuesday I installed several updated packages from bo. I noticed this morning that file system dumps have been failing since then. Here is a dummy run of /sbin/dump to show the symptoms. franz# /sbin/dump 0f /dev/null /spare1 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Thu May 1 17:13:35 1997 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda1 (/spare1) to /dev/null DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 41266 tape blocks on 1.06 tape(s). DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] /sbin/dump: can't resolve symbol 'ext2_llseek' /sbin/dump: can't resolve symbol 'ext2_llseek' /sbin/dump: can't resolve symbol 'ext2_llseek' DUMP: Interrupt received. DUMP: Do you want to abort dump?: (yes or no) yes DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. Any suggestions on what has gotten out of sync? Even better, any suggestions on how to repair the problem? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: E-Mail Setup Question - new server
Kevin Traas writes: 1. The accounts on vnet will have to exist on hicks before hicks will accept e-mail for those users, right? Not necesserily. You may install them as follows in /etc/aliases joey: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wuschel:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... 2. What problems might I have with incoming mail? i.e. If a message was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then it's going to bounce because vnet no longer exists. What about mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simply add the following line to /etc/smail/config: more_hostnames=vnet.dn This makes hicks think it is vnet, too. Mail will be accepted. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / Germany.Net ist vergleichbar mit einem Telefon/ / ohne Waehlscheibe und Klingel... -- Lutz Donnerhacke / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .