Re: Amiga Filesystem mounting bother.

1997-05-01 Thread Anders Hammarquist
Ok, just noticed this in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help:


Amiga FFS filesystem support (EXPERIMENTAL)
CONFIG_AFFS_FS
The Fast File System (FFS) is the common filesystem used on harddisks
by Amiga (tm) Systems since AmigaOS Version 1.3 (34.20)...

If you want to be able to mount hard disks you also need
CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION in order for the kernel to understand the
partition table on the disk. (This option does not seem to be
mentioned in Configure.help.)

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Re: kernel free page

1997-05-01 Thread Christopher W Hafey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] from G. Kapetanios at Apr 30, 97 01:44:44 pm
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And George said:

 Re: kernel free page

 Recently I compiled and installed kernel 2.0.30.
 Today I got two messages I have never got  before
 
 garfield kernel: Couldn't get a free page
 garfield eth0: Memory squeeze, deferring packet
 
 Does anyone know what these mean ??
 
 Thanks in advance for any help.
   George 

Hi George,

I don't know exactly what they mean.  I get similar ones,
and a ttyS0 overrun one, and a couple of others.

I just tell myself that the kernel always acted on these
same symptoms before, only it didn't bother to report them
to the console, whereas now it does.  Or, perhaps, these
errors are being logged to a high-profile alert system,
instead of silently to disk log, by programming oversight.

You know?  I'm probably kidding myself.  Heh.

Christopher
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  kernel build on Sunday (a little compressed in format, 
  for decorum's sake):

Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel:
 Loaded 3876 symbols from /boot/System.map.
Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel: Symbols match kernel version.
Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel:
 Linux version 2.0.30 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Sun Apr 27 09:30:24 EDT 1997
Apr 28 04:08:54 Apr 28 04:54:10 Apr 28 05:07:20 Apr 29 04:04:51
Apr 29 04:11:23 tingri kernel: .. all said: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s)
Apr 29 06:06:38 tingri kernel: Couldn't get a free page.
Apr 29 06:06:40 tingri kernel:
 eth0: Couldn't allocate a sk_buff of size 1514.
Apr 29 06:06:40 tingri kernel:
 eth0: Couldn't allocate a sk_buff of size 1514.
Apr 30 04:00:31 tingri kernel: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s)
Apr 30 04:31:33 tingri kernel: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s)

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Re: kernel free page

1997-05-01 Thread Christopher W Hafey
$ bug kernel-source-2.0.30 (never sent)

Package: kernel-source-2.0.30
Version: 2.0.30-1

Versions of the packages kernel-source-2.0.30 depends on:
binutilsVersion: 2.7-3
gas Not installed or no info

Hmm.. wonder if I need 'gas'. . .

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Re: Audio, Printer queue and Mouse button

1997-05-01 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
Just answering N. 1 (I hope this URLs still exist, it is a long I don't
visit them). If it is an AWE 32 (I don't have it, so didn't test that
driver):
 http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/

There is probably no need to go to the following:
 http://xfactor.wpi.edu/private/witek/awe/

Maybe these can be useful in future:
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html
 http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/

(It was a pleasure to answer copying the addresses with gpm paste
capacity, from one virtual console to another.) 

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On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Daniel Karlsson wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I've got three questions:
 
 1) I have no sound on my computer. I guess I don't have a proper module
 installed, but I don't seem to have one. Could anyone tell me its name if
 this is the fault? I have a Soundblaster 32 sound card. It works fine with
 Windows so there's no wrong with the card.
 
 2) How do I empty the printer queue?
 
 3) How can I make my middle mouse button work. I've tried all options in the
 configuration, but none of them works.
 
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Re: E-Mail Setup Question - new server

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Jones
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Kevin Traas wrote:

 1.  The accounts on vnet will have to exist on hicks before hicks will
 accept e-mail for those users, right?

Yes.  You have to set up the accounts first.

 2.  What problems might I have with incoming mail?  i.e. If a message was
 addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then it's going to bounce because vnet no
 longer exists.  What about mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

@DN should be fine as long as the records in your name server point to the
new machine.

As far as the flip of a switch, it's almost that easy.  Set up the old
machine as a virtual host in sendmail routing the mail to the appropriate
persons.

When your ready just change the MX records for the old machine to point to
the new machine.  It will accept and process them.

You may be able to use aliasing in sendmail (or whatever) instead of a
virtual host but I've never tried that.

I hope I didn't leave anything out, it's been a while since I've setup
virtual host's etc...


Hope it's helpful.

 
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Kevin Traas
 Systems Analyst
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 http://www.eroper.bc.ca
 
 
 
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rxvt

1997-05-01 Thread A.D.Y. Cheng
Hello all,

I have a strange problem. When I am using xterm, my backspace key acts
like Ctrl-H which is fine. However, if I use rxvt, my backspace key
gives me rubbish. I do not understand. I thought if one key works in
xterm, it should has the same behaviour in rxvt.
Can someone tell me how to change the behaviour of backspace key in rxvt
to normal?
By the way, I am using Acer Win-95 keyboard.


Thanks very much in advance! 

Anthony


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utmp troubles

1997-05-01 Thread Paul Hancock
I just installed Debian 1.3 on a new machine that I am setting up, and I
found that the utmp entries don't seem to be acting correctly.

If I have a user logged in on several virtual terminals, each login shows
when I do a 'who', as I would expect.  When I log the user out of one
virtual terminal, however, it removes the utmp entry for that terminal and
another which that user is still logged into.

I just tested this via telnet logins, and the utmp updates seem to work
correctly, so this appears to only be a problem when virtual terminals are
being used at the console.

If you have suggestions as to what might be going on, or how to isolate
what exactly is misbehaving, please let me know.  As it is, this is
something I can live with, since I don't plan on allowing console
accessability, but I thought I would mention it, as it seems broken.

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Christopher W Hafey
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[ question: Is there an opposite to adduser? ]

 If you look at /usr/sbin/deluser directly, you'll see it's a 
 Perl script.  A quickly hack too, judging both on the comments 
 and on the functionality.

 Is is just me, or is it really the case that no Unix has decent 
 tools for administering user accounts :-)

Many of us end up editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group, with nothing 
more elaborate than vi.  There could be a lint tool (like weblint, 
etc.) just for the purpose of checking the integrity of these files.
Perhaps one exists, and it's even right under my nose.

But I haven't found it yet.

Thanks for your thoughts, Dirk.  They're appreciated.

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Christopher W Hafey wrote:

 
 Many of us end up editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group, with nothing 
 more elaborate than vi.  There could be a lint tool (like weblint, 
 etc.) just for the purpose of checking the integrity of these files.
 Perhaps one exists, and it's even right under my nose.
 
 But I haven't found it yet.
 

I guess you're looking for grpck(8) and pwck(8) commands.  They are part
of the passwd package.

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Re: utmp troubles

1997-05-01 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 05:38 PM 30/04/97 -0700, Paul Hancock wrote:
[...]
If I have a user logged in on several virtual terminals, each login shows
when I do a 'who', as I would expect.  When I log the user out of one
virtual terminal, however, it removes the utmp entry for that terminal and
another which that user is still logged into.
[...]

I take you you've got sysvinit version 2.70-1 installed.  I reported a bug
on this and I'm pretty sure it should be fixed in sysvinit-2.71-1 try
installing it - it'll be in the archive soon.

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Re: rxvt

1997-05-01 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Thu, 1 May 1997, A.D.Y. Cheng wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I have a strange problem. When I am using xterm, my backspace key acts
 like Ctrl-H which is fine. However, if I use rxvt, my backspace key
 gives me rubbish. I do not understand. I thought if one key works in
 xterm, it should has the same behaviour in rxvt.
 Can someone tell me how to change the behaviour of backspace key in rxvt
 to normal?
 By the way, I am using Acer Win-95 keyboard.

I've read that the key mappings are fixed for rxvt at compile time.  You 
may want to look at the Mini Keysetup HOWTO (spelling may vary).  This 
doc will tell you about the rxvt v.s. xterm issue.  I've had luck with 
rxvt by using the .inputrc file suggested in the HOWTO.  I use bash.

Luck.

Syrus.

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PCMCIA Ethernet card?

1997-05-01 Thread rir

I am looking for recommendations for a
PCMCIA ethernet card with both thinnet and
10bt and a modest price tag.  
This only need work with linux.

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runq missing

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Jones
I updated to frozen bo and now I get email from cron saying

/bin/sh: runq: command not found

Anybody have this problem?

When I did the upgrade I swithced from smail to sendmail.

Cron experiences this error every 20 min's. 0,20,40 min's in the hour.

I checked crontab, daily, weekly, monthly, and atjobs but I don't have
anything configured to run at 0,20,40 hourly.  

I could use a hand if anybody knows what's causing this.

Thanks,



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Re: PCMCIA Ethernet card?

1997-05-01 Thread dthayer
On Thu, 1 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I am looking for recommendations for a
 PCMCIA ethernet card with both thinnet and
 10bt and a modest price tag.  
 This only need work with linux.
 
I have been using an NDC Instant link which cost about $100 at Elek-Tek. 

A word of caution on PCMCIA ethernet cards in general, the connection
between the Dongle and the card is pretty flimsy. Get some self stick
velcro and attach the Dongle to the side of your laptop. I ruined a
Linksys netcard (Never had a chance to test it under Linux, and cost
more than the NDC)  by applying too much stress to the connector.

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binary problems

1997-05-01 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hiya,

I'm having a strange problem with some machines here. Both are pentiums
running debian which have the same versions of all software on them. The
kernel version is 2.0.30. Within the last couple hours, something's
happened to cause them to have trouble executing binaries. One was an
executable I compiled, the other was doom (even more important). The
message I get after executing is:

[executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable.

And yet running file on it gives:

[executable]: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped

which should be fine. (This same program works on another Linux machine I
have)  I thought it might be a problem with binutils or libbfd but
reinstalling them didn't help. For some reason, recompiling the first
application seemed to fix the problem but with doom, I'm stuck (and with
any other executable I download). Any ideas why this is happening?

Thanks,

J. Goldman


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Re: one thing latex is better than tetex

1997-05-01 Thread Anthony Fok
On 29 Apr 1997, Philip Rangel wrote:

 I could not reproduce this bug.
 
 try to reconfig your divps, running texconfig. I had to make a symlink
 ln -s /usr/lib/texmf/dvips/config /etc/texmf/dvips

Just like to add that teTeX and dvips are working great.  GV shows the
page numbers perfectly.  :)  Hope you can solve the problem soon!  :)

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Re: binary problems

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote:

 [executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable.

Just a wild guess. Try ldd on the file and ckeck that all the sharded 
libraries are OK.

For example:  :-)

timshel:/etc# ldd /usr/local/games/doom/linuxsdoom
libvga.so.1 (DLL Jump 1.1pl8) =
/usr/lib/i486-linuxaout/libvga.so.1
libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) = /lib/libc.so.4


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Re: binary problems

1997-05-01 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't heard of ldd before. Unfortunately,
when I tried ldd linuxxdoom, it resulted in:

ldd: Cannot execute linuxxdoom (Binary format error) 

or some such. I tried running ldconfig as well and that didn't seem to
help. Maybe libc4 isn't work right...

J. Goldman


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Re: binary problems

1997-05-01 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 01 May 1997 01:32:53 CDT Jesse Goldman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
ov) wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't heard of ldd before. Unfortunately,
 when I tried ldd linuxxdoom, it resulted in:
 
 ldd: Cannot execute linuxxdoom (Binary format error) 

Recompile the kernel with support for a.out binaries.

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Re: runq missing

1997-05-01 Thread Craig Sanders

On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

 I updated to frozen bo and now I get email from cron saying

  /bin/sh: runq: command not found

 Anybody have this problem?

 When I did the upgrade I swithced from smail to sendmail.

runq is a part of smail, not sendmail.

with sendmail, just run 'sendmail -q '.  alternatively, make a shell
script or bash-alias called runq which does that. 

 Cron experiences this error every 20 min's. 0,20,40 min's in the hour.

 I checked crontab, daily, weekly, monthly, and atjobs but I don't have
 anything configured to run at 0,20,40 hourly.

check /etc/crontab, and also check the files under /var/spool/cron/crontabs

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Re: runq missing

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Jones

Yea.  I found it a few hours ago.  I never checked my root crontab since I
never added anything to it, but smail did when it was installed and never
removed it when it was removed.

Another guy told me to check daemon and uucp crontabs.  While I was
looking I checked my root crontab and there it was.

I surely appreciate the help, though.

On Thu, 1 May 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:

 
 On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:
 
  I updated to frozen bo and now I get email from cron saying
 
   /bin/sh: runq: command not found
 
  Anybody have this problem?
 
  When I did the upgrade I swithced from smail to sendmail.
 
 runq is a part of smail, not sendmail.
 
 with sendmail, just run 'sendmail -q '.  alternatively, make a shell
 script or bash-alias called runq which does that. 
 
  Cron experiences this error every 20 min's. 0,20,40 min's in the hour.
 
  I checked crontab, daily, weekly, monthly, and atjobs but I don't have
  anything configured to run at 0,20,40 hourly.
 
 check /etc/crontab, and also check the files under /var/spool/cron/crontabs
 
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Re: help with printing, please...

1997-05-01 Thread tgakem
 
 sorry, this is a second request...
  
 Is there any way I can send what's actually showing on the on the screen
 to the printer?  I'm trying to get XFree86 running and getting a lot of
 error messages.  I'd like to be able to print these out so I can try to
 address the problems without having to write everything down...  As is
 obvious, I'm really new at this Linux stuff, so I'm still very much in
 the thrashing around stages.

I've seen a lot of answers, but seem to have missed someone that
mentioned redirecting the standard error stream, that usually contains
the errors.  I would suggest you send the messages to a file before
printing (because there can be many of them).  Supposing you start X
using startx, that would be

in bash:
startx  my_errors 21

in tcsh:
startx  my_errors

Hope this helps,

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is is just me, or is it really the case that
no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty
much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ...
but now I'm straying :-)  

deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have

useradd and userdel

which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The
scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to
do the real work.

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how to safely install libc6..

1997-05-01 Thread Paul van Berlo
Heya..

geez:) I'm encountering too many problems lately.. anyways.. I just tried
to install libc6 from unstable.. (yes.. I know.. unstable.. but I dont
care:) How can I safely install it? because libc6 conflicts with libc-dev
and libc5-dev provides libc-dev.. but if I try to remove libc5-dev I'll
break alot more packages.. Should I just wait with installing libc6 or
does anyone know a safe way on doing this?

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Re: binary problems

1997-05-01 Thread Andy Mortimer
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote:

 I'm having a strange problem with some machines here. Both are pentiums
 running debian which have the same versions of all software on them. The
 kernel version is 2.0.30. Within the last couple hours, something's
 happened to cause them to have trouble executing binaries. One was an
 executable I compiled, the other was doom (even more important). The
 message I get after executing is:
 
 [executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable.
 
 And yet running file on it gives:
 
 [executable]: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped
 
 which should be fine. (This same program works on another Linux machine I
 have)  I thought it might be a problem with binutils or libbfd but
 reinstalling them didn't help. For some reason, recompiling the first
 application seemed to fix the problem but with doom, I'm stuck (and with
 any other executable I download). Any ideas why this is happening?

You haven't recompiled your kernel, or moved your modules around, or
something? The problem appears to be that your files are a.out, rather
than ELF like most binaries, which is what ZMAGIC (and QMAGIC, I'm not
sure on the difference) means. It looks like your system may not be able
to find the code to run code in a.out format any more. I tried this on my
system (using one of the four a.out executables I have left! I'm afraid I
couldn't find a ZMAGIC at all ...), by renaning the module file and
trying to run it. As you can see, I got roughly the same error:
---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file `which bible`
/usr/local/bin/bible: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mv /lib/modules/2.0.29/fs/binfmt_aout.{o,tmp}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bible
bash: /usr/local/bin/bible: cannot execute binary file
[Exit 126]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mv /lib/modules/2.0.29/fs/binfmt_aout.{tmp,o}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bible
bible: BRS Release 4.00, $Date: 93/04/26 11:18:28 $
Hit '?' for help.

Genesis 1

  1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
bible(KJV) [Gen1:1] q
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
---

The fix is to recompile your kernel, and include support for a.out
binaries either as a module or in the kernel. If you just want it as a
module (which I'd recommend), you probably only need to make the modules.

I have no idea why it compiled as a.out for you, though ...

HTH,

E

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 10:40 PM 4/30/97 -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Christopher W Hafey wrote:

 
 Many of us end up editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group, with nothing 
 more elaborate than vi.  There could be a lint tool (like weblint, 
 etc.) just for the purpose of checking the integrity of these files.
 Perhaps one exists, and it's even right under my nose.
 
 But I haven't found it yet.
 

I guess you're looking for grpck(8) and pwck(8) commands.  They are part
of the passwd package.

-- Jaldhar

I have passwd 1.0-5, but find neither of those commands.
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 11:38 AM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is is just me, or is it really the case that
no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty
much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ...
but now I'm straying :-)  

deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have

   useradd and userdel

which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The
scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to
do the real work.


Heh-heh, but these are NOT in Debian.  Which is part of my point.  I'd be
happy to these used in Debian.
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 11:38 AM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is is just me, or is it really the case that
no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty
much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ...
but now I'm straying :-)  

deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have

  useradd and userdel

which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The
scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to
do the real work.


Heh-heh, but these are NOT in Debian.  Which is part of my point.  I'd be
happy to these used in Debian.

Oh but they are:

$ dpkg -S useradd
passwd: /usr/sbin/useradd
passwd: /usr/man/man8/useradd.8.gz

$ dpkg -l passwd
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  passwd  961025-2   Change and administer password and group dat


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Re: how to safely install libc6..

1997-05-01 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On May 1, Paul van Berlo wrote
 geez:) I'm encountering too many problems lately.. anyways.. I just tried
 to install libc6 from unstable.. (yes.. I know.. unstable.. but I dont
 care:) How can I safely install it? because libc6 conflicts with libc-dev
 and libc5-dev provides libc-dev.. but if I try to remove libc5-dev I'll
 break alot more packages.. Should I just wait with installing libc6 or
 does anyone know a safe way on doing this?

The safest way is to create a libc6 development system on a separate
partition or as a chroot()ed environment.

I took the chroot() approach yesterday. The resulting directory structure,
to be used with chroot(8) can be found tarred up at
ftp://ftp.wi.leidenuniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray/highly-experimental/libc6-build-env.tar.gz

This is _highly experimental, it works for me_ stuff. Note that for building
most programs you'll have to wait for libraries that work with libc6. 

Greetings,
Ray
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

Oh but they are:

$ dpkg -S useradd
passwd: /usr/sbin/useradd
passwd: /usr/man/man8/useradd.8.gz

$ dpkg -l passwd
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-

ii  passwd  961025-2   Change and administer password and
group dat


Mike.

Thanks Mike.  That makes a lot more sense to me.  It would also make more
sense to me if the adduser utility used useradd/userdel, instead of trying
to roll it's own.  A single interface (might as well call it an API) is all
we need to build any passwd maint tool, be it command line or GUI based.

Now I get to figure out why I have 

danenet:~ dpkg -l passwd
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-=
===
ii  passwd  1.0-5  Change password data.

and not the passwd pkg you have.  But that's another story ...
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dirk Herr-Hoyman, you wrote:
 
 At 11:38 AM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is is just me, or is it really the case that
 no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty
 much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ...
 but now I'm straying :-)  
 
 deluser and adduser try to do everything themselves, but we now have
 
  useradd and userdel
 
 which are standard (well, on sysv systems anyway) and documented. The
 scripts and all your homemade scripts should call those programs to
 do the real work.
 
 
 Heh-heh, but these are NOT in Debian.  Which is part of my point.  I'd be
 happy to these used in Debian.

Funny.. I have them...

Tim

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Re: PCMCIA Ethernet card?

1997-05-01 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
I've used the Linksys EC2T successfully.

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 I am looking for recommendations for a
 PCMCIA ethernet card with both thinnet and
 10bt and a modest price tag.  
 This only need work with linux.


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Mirror of Larry and Joe's Package Finder in Sweden

1997-05-01 Thread d1temp
Hi!

A mirror of Larry and Joe's Package Finder is now available in Sweden at
URL: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1temp/cgi-bin/finder.cgi

It actually works a little slower than the original site, probably
because the disks here are NFS mounted while they're local at
earthlight, but it might be an option if your route to NZ is alot slower 
than to Sweden.

Problems with the mirror should be addressed to me, not Larry or Joe.  

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Re: rxvt

1997-05-01 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
A.D.Y. Cheng wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I have a strange problem. When I am using xterm, my backspace key acts
 like Ctrl-H which is fine. However, if I use rxvt, my backspace key
 gives me rubbish. I do not understand. I thought if one key works in
 xterm, it should has the same behaviour in rxvt.
 Can someone tell me how to change the behaviour of backspace key in rxvt
 to normal?
 By the way, I am using Acer Win-95 keyboard.
 
 Thanks very much in advance!
 
 Anthony
 

You can change the backspace key stty. If you want Backspace to
have the backspace function, then you would use 'stty erase ^h'
(yes, type the ^, don't use CTRL). If you want Delete to have
the backspace function (in fact, this is the Unix standard, or at
least it used to be) you would use 'stty erase ^?'. If you use bash
it generally works with either--I don't know if this feature is
due to the readline library or what. I suspect you don't use bash.

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote:

:At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
:
:Oh but they are:
:
[ see thread ]
:
:ii  passwd  961025-2   Change and administer password and
:group dat
:Mike.
:
[more stuff deleted]
:===
:ii  passwd  1.0-5  Change password data.
:

I also get 1.0-5 when I do a dpkg -l passwd.  I also don't have
shadow passwords.  I seem to recall a useradd function in the shadow
password package which I installed back in the Red Hat days.  Mike, is
it possible that you're running shadow passwords, hence the disparity?

I personally don't mind adduser, although it's pretty hairy to figure
out what's going on since I'm not a perl wizard.  So far it's worked for
me.  I would like to get back to shadow passwords, though.

Cheers,
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 09:28 AM 5/1/97 -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote:

:At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
:
:Oh but they are:
:
[ see thread ]
:
:ii  passwd  961025-2   Change and administer password and
:group dat
:Mike.
:
[more stuff deleted]
:===
:ii  passwd  1.0-5  Change password data.
:

I also get 1.0-5 when I do a dpkg -l passwd.  I also don't have
shadow passwords.  I seem to recall a useradd function in the shadow
password package which I installed back in the Red Hat days.  Mike, is
it possible that you're running shadow passwords, hence the disparity?


I did a check of what's out there in dselect.  It's the 1.0-5 passwd pkg.
Where ARE you getting this pkg, Mike?

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dirk Herr-Hoyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 09:28 AM 5/1/97 -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote:

:At 01:44 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
:
:Oh but they are:
:
[ see thread ]
:
:ii  passwd  961025-2   Change and administer password and
:group dat
:Mike.
:
[more stuff deleted]
:===
:ii  passwd  1.0-5  Change password data.
:

I also get 1.0-5 when I do a dpkg -l passwd.  I also don't have
shadow passwords.  I seem to recall a useradd function in the shadow
password package which I installed back in the Red Hat days.  Mike, is
it possible that you're running shadow passwords, hence the disparity?


I did a check of what's out there in dselect.  It's the 1.0-5 passwd pkg.
Where ARE you getting this pkg, Mike?

$ ll bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb 
-rw-rw-r--   1 archive  archive217082 Apr 19 10:10 
bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb

Debian 1.3 AKA frozen AKA bo

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 05:06 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
I did a check of what's out there in dselect.  It's the 1.0-5 passwd pkg.
Where ARE you getting this pkg, Mike?

$ ll bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb 
-rw-rw-r--   1 archive  archive217082 Apr 19 10:10
bo/binary/base/passwd_961025-2.deb

Debian 1.3 AKA frozen AKA bo

Ok, so this is in a future release of Debian.  I appreciate this info Mike,
but I'm right back to my original point.  The useradd and userdel are not
really part of Debian.  Not today.  Not on dselect.  And while it's great
that they will be in 1.3, I am NOT going to upgrade a live system to a just
released upgrade.

It is helpful to know that this is coming down the tubes as now I know how
much custom fussing to do over the current account maint system that I'm
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emacs giving fatal error on new installation

1997-05-01 Thread rick
Hi,

We've just switch from Slackware to Debian 1.2 on a AST Premmia
SE/66 and we are getting a fatal error (11) segmentation fault when 
we run emacs. This is our third system the put Debian on and the first
time this has happen. Any suggestions on where we've could of gone wrong
would be appreciated.

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Re: binary problems

1997-05-01 Thread George Bonser

I have had to rerun ldconfig at times for no apparent reason in order to
get my system behaving normally too.  It seems like it sometimes looses
its mind and re-running ldconfig gets things going again.  It does not
happen often, maybe once in a month.


On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote:

 On Thu, 1 May 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote:
 
  [executable]: Exec format error. Binary file not executable.
 
 Just a wild guess. Try ldd on the file and ckeck that all the sharded 
 libraries are OK.
 
 For example:  :-)
 
 timshel:/etc# ldd /usr/local/games/doom/linuxsdoom
 libvga.so.1 (DLL Jump 1.1pl8) =
 /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout/libvga.so.1
 libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) = /lib/libc.so.4
 
 
 ...RickM...
 
 
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.fvwm2/ hook problems

1997-05-01 Thread Colin Telmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

I decided to finally make use of the debian menu system by converting my
old .fvwm2rc into the various hook files that live in .fvwm2/ but I seem
to be missing something -  I added the line
+ I Module FvwmButtons
to .fvwm2/init-restart.hook and then started fvwm2 and the hook wasn't
parsed. I eventually just added the following 4 lines (marked by CRT) to
/etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc as a temporary fix:

DestroyMenu InitFunction
AddToFunc InitFunction
+ I Exec setup-background
+ I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/init.hook
+ I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/init-restart.hook
+ I Read .fvwm2/init.hook
+ I Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook

# CRT
Read .fvwm2/init.hook
Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook

DestroyMenu RestartFunction
AddToFunc RestartFunction
+ I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/restart.hook
+ I Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/init-restart.hook
+ I Read .fvwm2/restart.hook
+ I Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook

# CRT
Read .fvwm2/restart.hook
Read .fvwm2/init-restart.hook

What am I missing or is this a bug?

Cheers, Colin.

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elm.rc Where is it?

1997-05-01 Thread Bjoern Starke
Hello,

i want to set up elm, but nowhere i can find the configuraton file
elm.rc. I am using a Debian 1.2.6 and elm is at Version 2.4. I have
searched after it, but i can't find it...Has the name been changed?

Ciao..bjoern


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Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation

1997-05-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 1 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 We've just switch from Slackware to Debian 1.2 on a AST Premmia
 SE/66 and we are getting a fatal error (11) segmentation fault when 
 we run emacs. This is our third system the put Debian on and the first
 time this has happen. Any suggestions on where we've could of gone wrong
 would be appreciated.
 
This kind of error is usually the result of faulty hardware. There are
several things you can try. From the BIOS setup, you should be able to
turn the caches off. This is the most probably location for the problem.
Many new machines use overclocked memory in cache to get the high speeds
needed. This and other timing problems can show up with Linux when MSDOS
programs work just fine. Try disabling cache memory and see if the problem
goes away.

Luck,

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote:
 If you look at /usr/sbin/deluser directly, you'll see it's a Perl script.
 A quickly hack too, judging both on the comments and on the functionality.
 
 I just went thru the exercise of setting up a Debian based server for a
 community network, and I ended up modifying both adduser and deluser (and
 delgroup) for our purposes.  Is is just me, or is it really the case that
 no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty
 much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ...
 but now I'm straying :-)  

Well, what exactly do you want a deluser command to do? If you accidently
create a new account and get it wrong, there may be a case for deleting it
and starting over. But once a user has been on a system for a while, is it
really sensible to remove them /without trace/.

In particular, do you remove all their files. If you do, what about other
people's dependencies on them. If you don't, then you really need to leave
a trace of the deleted user. Otherwise you might reissue their UID number
and someone will inherit those files.

 So, just like Debian has put forth a great deal of effort in the dpkg, and
 I take my hat off to it, there ought to be a similar effort put forth for
 user account administration.  My question here, is whether there is such an
 effort under way?

It would be interesting to hear what you think ought to be contained
therein (and what sort of modifications you had to make for your own
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Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Jones

This is just something for the think tank.  I thing Dale is more than
likely correct, but a few months ago I was getting segmentation faults
whenever I would try to run man (maybe some others I don't remember right
now).  The problem was that for some reason when I installed linuxconf, I
believe, and changed files back manually it stopped setting my hostname.

I don't understand it but when I set the hostname it stopped giving me the
error.  I just wanted to throw another possibility in for you to think
about.


On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 On Thu, 1 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  We've just switch from Slackware to Debian 1.2 on a AST Premmia
  SE/66 and we are getting a fatal error (11) segmentation fault when 
  we run emacs. This is our third system the put Debian on and the first
  time this has happen. Any suggestions on where we've could of gone wrong
  would be appreciated.
  
 This kind of error is usually the result of faulty hardware. There are
 several things you can try. From the BIOS setup, you should be able to
 turn the caches off. This is the most probably location for the problem.
 Many new machines use overclocked memory in cache to get the high speeds
 needed. This and other timing problems can show up with Linux when MSDOS
 programs work just fine. Try disabling cache memory and see if the problem
 goes away.
 
 Luck,
 
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Re: elm.rc Where is it?

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Jones

I don't use elm but most, if not all, *rc files on my system are .*rc.
Maybe if you look for .elmrc?  I'm talking about in your home directory
ofcourse.


On Thu, 1 May 1997, Bjoern Starke wrote:

 Hello,
 
 i want to set up elm, but nowhere i can find the configuraton file
 elm.rc. I am using a Debian 1.2.6 and elm is at Version 2.4. I have
 searched after it, but i can't find it...Has the name been changed?
 
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-05-01 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 06:23 PM 5/1/97 +0100, David Wright wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote:
 If you look at /usr/sbin/deluser directly, you'll see it's a Perl script.
 A quickly hack too, judging both on the comments and on the functionality.
 
 I just went thru the exercise of setting up a Debian based server for a
 community network, and I ended up modifying both adduser and deluser (and
 delgroup) for our purposes.  Is is just me, or is it really the case that
 no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty
 much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ...
 but now I'm straying :-)  

Well, what exactly do you want a deluser command to do? If you accidently
create a new account and get it wrong, there may be a case for deleting it
and starting over. But once a user has been on a system for a while, is it
really sensible to remove them /without trace/.

In particular, do you remove all their files. If you do, what about other
people's dependencies on them. If you don't, then you really need to leave
a trace of the deleted user. Otherwise you might reissue their UID number
and someone will inherit those files.


I'd certainly like to have the option of deleting the user account,
completely.  And this would include entries not only in /etc/passwd, but
/etc/group too.  I have to mess with /usr/bin/delgroup to get it to work AT
ALL, and it's still not perfect.  Neither deluser nor delgroup are
particularly sophisticated, unlike adduser which does  account for many
more cases.

 So, just like Debian has put forth a great deal of effort in the dpkg, and
 I take my hat off to it, there ought to be a similar effort put forth for
 user account administration.  My question here, is whether there is such an
 effort under way?

It would be interesting to hear what you think ought to be contained
therein (and what sort of modifications you had to make for your own
purposes).

The issues that caused me to modify adduser/deluser/delgroup were these:

* Users were in 2 groups, ordinary and information providers.  And neither
were to get to a standard shell, the shell would be a script that ends up
running lynx.  The meant we need more then just admins and users.  Each
group of user needs it's own set of groups and skel files for the home
directory.

* The information providers got directories created outside their home
directory.  This would be under a web server.  We didn't want to use the
~username URL, thus we created dirs elsewhere.

Most of what I ended up doing was changes to adduser.  What was missing was
a sense of multiple groups of users.  This was done primarily by adding a
-cfg option to let you call in your own configuration file.  Additionally,
provision was made in the conf to call a custom script, instead of the
universal one in /etc/adduser.local.  I basically borrowed this idea from
AIX (gosh, AIX *is* good for something).

Now, once you go down the road of a custom action when add an account, then
you need one when you delete it too.  Thus, the simplistic deluser/delgroup
are insufficient for our needs.  I ended up writing script that called
these, but also did other actions on it's own.

None of this is rocket science.  And as others have noted, the SysV useradd
and userdel do provide a more comprehensive and somewhat standard interface
into the passwd and group.  But, even if it's not rocket science, it still
needs to be done and I don't like to think about it when I do it.  Nor
should you, as that means you WILL make mistakes.  What still strikes me as
odd is that given the age of Unix, we are still editing the passwd with vi.

My real target user for this account administration is not me and no doubt
this would be common.  My target user is knowledgable, but busy.  He just
wants to be sure new accounts get added correctly, more than anything else.

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fatal server error..

1997-05-01 Thread smorrill
I am running Debian release 1.2 on my 586/133mhz...and trying to get
XFree86 up and going...  when I start up I get a message fatal server
error: could not create audio connection block info and the machine
seems to hang for quite awhile.  Obviously there's something I haven't
done here, but I'm still trying to get a handle on this stuff.

any suggestions out there?

TIA!!
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problem: getting nfs up and running

1997-05-01 Thread Michael J Devine
I'm trying to get nfs to allow my users on the client machines to have
access to their home directories on the server.  I recently was given
these helpful hints:
 
   Add this line to your server's export:
   /home  *.your domain  (rw)
  Then reboot, or do /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs start
 
   Add this line to your client's fstab:
   server's name:/home /home nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,bg,intr
  Then do mount -a
 
I did all this, and when I executed the nfs start, I got this message:
Starting remote filesystem services:

Notice that none of the nfsd,mountd,ugidd, etc..., lines are being
printed to the screen.  Am I missing a basic setup step?

Thanks in Advance...

Mike Devine
Eastern Washington University
 
 


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Re: problem: getting nfs up and running

1997-05-01 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 01 May 1997 11:58:53 PDT Michael J Devine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 I'm trying to get nfs to allow my users on the client machines to have
 access to their home directories on the server.  I recently was given
 these helpful hints:
[snip]
 I did all this, and when I executed the nfs start, I got this message:
 Starting remote filesystem services:
 
 Notice that none of the nfsd,mountd,ugidd, etc..., lines are being
 printed to the screen.  Am I missing a basic setup step?

What does your /etc/exports look like ?
Do you have the portmapper running ?
Did you try to run rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd by hand ?

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Re: elm.rc Where is it?

1997-05-01 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Bjoern Starke wrote:

 i want to set up elm, but nowhere i can find the configuraton file
 elm.rc. I am using a Debian 1.2.6 and elm is at Version 2.4. I have
 searched after it, but i can't find it...Has the name been changed?

According to the output of dpkg --listfiles elm, you shouldn't have one.

I'm sure you can make one, but it's an optional file.  Check /usr/doc/elm
for further info...  Of course, you could make one

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Re: fatal server error..

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Jones

It sounds to me like you're using a window manager that has a sound module
but sound isn't in your kernel.  Go through the *rc file for the window
manager and comment out the sound module portion.  Then try again to see
if that is the only problem.

Look for something like this.

# Start the Audio player
Module Audio - Afterstep entry

Module FvwmAudio - Fvwm2 and Fvwm95 entry
 
It would be easier if we knew which window manager you are using.

On Thu, 1 May 1997, smorrill wrote:

 I am running Debian release 1.2 on my 586/133mhz...and trying to get
 XFree86 up and going...  when I start up I get a message fatal server
 error: could not create audio connection block info and the machine
 seems to hang for quite awhile.  Obviously there's something I haven't
 done here, but I'm still trying to get a handle on this stuff.
 
 any suggestions out there?
 
 TIA!!
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Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation

1997-05-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

 
 This is just something for the think tank.  I thing Dale is more than
 likely correct, but a few months ago I was getting segmentation faults
 whenever I would try to run man (maybe some others I don't remember right
 now).  The problem was that for some reason when I installed linuxconf, I
 believe, and changed files back manually it stopped setting my hostname.
 
 I don't understand it but when I set the hostname it stopped giving me the
 error.  I just wanted to throw another possibility in for you to think
 about.

Lack of a host name will cause several useful parts of the system to
segfault. This is why there is a default value provided during
installation (among other reasons).
Segfaults are by no means only obtained by faulty hardware. Faulty
software can produce them as well. The key point in this particular
problem was that two earlier machines had the same software installed on
them and they produced no such errors. If software runs on one machine and
not on another, it is a pretty fair assumption that it is faulty hardware
on the other machine. This is not always the case, but it makes a good
starting point for debugging. This is specially true when the error is
erratic, happening at different times, and not always.
I have an old 486 that can't make it through a kernel install because of
problems with cache, but if the source files didn't get corrupted during
installation (yep it even trashes file copies occasionally) I only need to
restart the make and it will, eventually, finish building the kernel.
Errors range from signal 11, to sytax errors, and even undefined
variables. Each of these errors fails to occur on a successive run of make
and the process is completable. Note: I don't do this kind of work on that
machine normally, and the machine runs WindBlows quite happily. Well, the
machine is happy anyway ;-)

Luck,

Dwarf
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FAST ACM! But broken timer? Gurus needed. Was: ACM 4.7-3 with Debian Linux 1.2.4

1997-05-01 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

 On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
 
  On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
  
Sad to say, I'm not replying to my own question about Air Combat
   Maneuvers under Debian 1.2.4...
  
   Not yet...
   ...
 
  And not yet, but I can rebuild the binaries now...



 I notice that with a workaround ACM runs fast. But it is not a clean
solution, and together with 'xlock -mode rotor' being that slow it makes
me wonder about possible changes to some timers (?) behaviour under
Debian. PLEASE, give a look at the script I put as first text attachment,
I've been working some time to write those remarks, there is a section in
great evidence focusing the problem. The script is replicated in the tgz I
put as second attachment, also containing the patch files used by the
script. 
 
 (Last night I also got ACM 4.8 from ftp.netcom.com/pub/ra/rainey/acm/
and it is even a greater package to learn from, but I can't rebuild it for
Linux yet, this time :-) it seems it is not enough going to
/usr/include/sys/ and typing 'ln -s file.h filio.h', nor I can fix the
-lelf test done by the configure script just with -L/usr/lib/elf.) 
 

 Thanks to anybody getting curious about this (so far) misterious
timing topic. 


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# Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Debian 1.2.4 
# May 1st 1997. Dirty workaround (a few tiny patches) to rebuild ACM
# and have it run fast. 

# I'm a newbie to Debian Linux so please consider just READING this
# script, checking that nothing here is going to put your system in a
# mess, and possibly running each step typing it by hand (don't forget
# the environment variable) and checking what the result is before
# proceeding (of course everything is fine HERE with the acm-4.7-3
# source tree found in the Debian 1.2.4 CD from CheapBytes [that is
# ftp'ed from the Debian site]).

# As you can see, the Debian 1.2(.4) CD is assumed to be mounted under
# /cdrom but you will most probably comment out that line and untar
# the acm source tree by yourself. Anyway you should be in the parent
# of the acm-4.7/ directory where the source tree starts.

# patch A could be avoided: 
#
# 1) if -lelf was working in the test performed by the configure
#script (which is not, almost here, I have to say -L/usr/lib/elf
#to ld, though that library appears in the result of 'ldconfig -v'
#or 'ldconfig -D');
# 2) if you put a symbolic link inside /usr/include/sys: 
#ln -s file.h filio.h

# The other patches are rather brutal as they act AFTER the configure
# script to modify the produced Makefiles. Like this (and with context
# diff files!) if any peculiarity of the system leads to slightly
# different Makefiles then automatic application of the patches is
# most likely going to fail. THAT'S WHY I SUGGEST TO PROCEED MANUALLY
# STEP BY STEP. And if any patch fails, then it should be rather easy
# to read the patch file yourself and modify the destination file with
# an editor. Of course, a clean job would be going back to the
# Imakefile's and act BEFORE the configure script.

# -
#I M P O R T A N T
#
# Everything is configured and compiled with REAL_DELTA_T=no but it
# should *NOT* be necessary: old binaries working well under other
# Linux installations I tested/I still have here on the same machine
# are VERY slow with Debian 1.2.4, just like if I rebuild the binaries
# without that environment variable set to no. I was trying to do
# some profiling (*) (just add -pg to the optimization flags turned on
# by patch B1, or proceed A-configure-B-C instead of A-configure-B1-C1
# in order to do profiling on the binaries built without the
# REAL_DELTA_T=no environment setting) but I have not investigated
# that much so far... maybe USE OF A TIMER... maybe some system guru
# has the answer immediately (but none answered so far on the mailing
# list debian-user@lists.debian.org).
#
#
# Also (but don't know whether it is related or not) 
#   'xlock -mode rotor' 
# is very slow and is worth some profile session. In the patches/
# directory there is a patch I applied HERE to the source tree got 
# as
# /cdrom/rex-fixed/source/x11/xlockmore_3.11.orig.tar.gz
# +   
# /cdrom/rex-fixed/source/x11/xlockmore_3.11-3.diff.gz
#
# in order to be able to rebuild the executeable and to switch on
# profiling (**). What about that sub_timers(...) function?
#
#
# (*) (**) See 'man gprof'
# 

Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation

1997-05-01 Thread Rick Jones
On Thu, 1 May 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 Lack of a host name will cause several useful parts of the system to
 segfault. This is why there is a default value provided during
 installation (among other reasons).
 Segfaults are by no means only obtained by faulty hardware. Faulty
 software can produce them as well. The key point in this particular
 problem was that two earlier machines had the same software installed on
 them and they produced no such errors. If software runs on one machine and
 not on another, it is a pretty fair assumption that it is faulty hardware
 on the other machine. This is not always the case, but it makes a good

You're absolutely right.  That's why I indicated that it was more than
likely the hardware.  I just figured I'd let him know that it could be a
software error, and not corrupt sofware, but a configuration problem.
Just in case he installed and made some change he feels wouldn't cause it.

Until I experienced the hostname problem I never would have thought a
system configuration problem would cause a segmentation fault.  Which
perhaps I should report as a bug.

Have a good one,



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Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation

1997-05-01 Thread rick
I finally found our AST's bios utility disk and it seems all cache memory
is disabled. I sort of suspected this since we were running 1.2.5 on it
for the past two years without problems. 

Re the hostname well that has been set. Also we re-installed emacs.  
As for the other two machines they're DELL Poweredges, so sure there
still could be a hardware problem, but then why did it run ok with 1.2.5?
 


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pg command for linux?

1997-05-01 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine

Hello all.  I'm an instructor for a certificate course in C and UNIX.
Currently we are using SCO, but for the C++ course, I would like to
use linux -- mainly because I can use the GNU debugger to better
display the internal workings of the C++ language (SCO's C++ compiler is
C-front, so their debugger can't display things like the this pointer --
at least not to my knowledge).

However, everyone in the class is used to SCO, in particular the pg command,
which is a paired-down version of less.  Does anyone know if there is a pg
command out there somewhere for LINUX?  Any info is much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Postscript to ?

1997-05-01 Thread Nikolaj Richers
Can anyone think of a utility or word processor that can read
Postscript files and save them in a common WP or even TeX 
format?

The reason being, I need to move a few years' worth of word
processing files off my A3000-040 and the only useful/portable
format I can come up with is to print everything to Postscript.
This includes stuff like my thesis and dissertation fragments, 
articles, etc., which I don't really want as ASCII files, if I 
can avoid it.

I know, should have used TeX. Not a hacker, though, and LyX
keeps quitting on me. Must be a new generation of Debian user.
;-)


On a related note, has anyone ever set up PLIP between a Linux
box and an Amiga (running AmiTCP/IP)? I have the PLIP mini how-to 
and it looks like it can be done--any quirks?

Cheers, and thank you,

Nikolaj

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/sbin/dump unable to resolve 'ext2_llseek'

1997-05-01 Thread Douglas Bates
On Tuesday I installed several updated packages from bo.  I noticed
this morning that file system dumps have been failing since then.
Here is a dummy run of /sbin/dump to show the symptoms.
  franz# /sbin/dump 0f /dev/null /spare1
DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Thu May  1 17:13:35 1997
DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda1 (/spare1) to /dev/null
DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
DUMP: estimated 41266 tape blocks on 1.06 tape(s).
DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  /sbin/dump: can't resolve symbol 'ext2_llseek'
  /sbin/dump: can't resolve symbol 'ext2_llseek'
  /sbin/dump: can't resolve symbol 'ext2_llseek'
DUMP: Interrupt received.
DUMP: Do you want to abort dump?: (yes or no) yes
DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.   

Any suggestions on what has gotten out of sync?  Even better, any
suggestions on how to repair the problem?


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Re: E-Mail Setup Question - new server

1997-05-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Kevin Traas writes:

 1.  The accounts on vnet will have to exist on hicks before hicks will
 accept e-mail for those users, right?

Not necesserily.  You may install them as follows in /etc/aliases

joey:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wuschel:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

 2.  What problems might I have with incoming mail?  i.e. If a message was
 addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then it's going to bounce because vnet no
 longer exists.  What about mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Simply add the following line to /etc/smail/config:

more_hostnames=vnet.dn

This makes hicks think it is vnet, too.  Mail will be accepted.

Regards

Joey

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