Re: /etc/resolv.conf has wrong permissions
On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote: However, /etc/resolv.conf is installed with or modified to root/root -rw--- permissions. This sounds logical until a normal user tries to dial out. It was weird, my normal account would dial and login ok, but all of the net calls would show a Host name lookup failure. I could even su to root and things would work fine. Interesting. On my 1.1 upgraded to 1.2 and then to 1.3 system the file is -rw-r--r-- and owned by root.root Mine (installed 1.3) also has these permissions and ownership. Strangely, `dpkg -S /etc/resolv.conf` shows no owning package. That's because this file is either created during the configure the network phase of the initial setup (bootdisks) or isn't created at all. This problem probably existed in one of the older bootdisk versions. The permissions are fine on both of my machines (one originally 1.1, other 1.3). -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netatalk error: atalkd socket: Invalid argument
Scott == Scott Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott Hi, After upgrading the Linux server in our Macintosh network Scott to Debian 1.3, the atalkd daemon in netatalk won't load, but Scott returns the error: Scott socket: Invalid argument Scott AppleTalk worked fine before. Anyone else seen/fixed this? Hi Scott - (I'm a bit behind on debian-user, so you've probably fixed this, but...) If your kernel Appletalk support is compiled as a module, you'll get that error message when /etc/conf.modules file has the line: alias net-pf-5 off instead of: alias net-pf-5 appletalk I think my current conf.modules is the 1.3 default, and it has the 'off' alias, disabling appletalk. HTH, -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fiddled with gcc/libc, now can't find stddef.h
Emilio Lopes wrote: The problem is that you have a version of cpp that's incompatible with gcc. They have to have the *same* version number. This is a *known* bug in the gcc package (it should have the right dependencies), but the gcc maintainer does not seem to think it's important enough to do a fix in stable. Look at the bug list for gcc at http://www.debian.org. I haven't touched the gcc in stable yet because I've been waiting on another important bug fix, which has been RSN for about 2 months: A new upstream version of g77. The one currently in stable is unacceptably buggy. In fact, there _is_ no acceptable version of g77 in existence right now. :( Unfortunately, I'm now convinced that the g77 team is waiting on the relase of gcc 2.8.0 (which has been RSN for over half a year), and the new version probably won't work with 2.7.2.1 at all. So, with no reason to wait, I'm going to go ahead and fix this bug in stable. I'll put a new version in Incoming this week...when 1.3.1 is released, it should be part of it, along with a new XFree86. I think he should at least watch this list. I posted a query for help, just like yours, twice, and got no answer. Almost two weeks with no idea of what was going on. Funny, I thought I _was_ subscribed to debian-user, and the list had simply been dead for months. I guess not... --Galen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Where are xmkmf and imake?
I can't not find xmkmf and imake in Debian 1.3. They were in xbase, but now they are not there. Which package contents these two programs? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where are xmkmf and imake?
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Cheng-Chang Wu wrote: I can't not find xmkmf and imake in Debian 1.3. They were in xbase, but now they are not there. Which package contents these two programs? dpkg -S xmkmf xlib6-dev: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xmkmf.1x.gz xlib6-dev: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmkmf -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?
What Ho! I am planning on installing Debian 1.3 on my laptop. I have had prior success installing 1.2 on this same laptop. I prefer to clean up the hard-disk and start from scratch. But here is the problem. This laptop does not have a built in CDROM drive. I have had success using a PCMCIA CDROM with this machine in the past. How do you think I should go ahead with my installation? I want to dselect packages from the PCMCIA CDROM and not through FTP (I have a 14.4 modem. :-( ). Can I get my PCMCIA CDROM drive functional before running dselect? Sudhakar -- I'm all for progress. It is change that I object to. -- Mark Twain Sudhakar Chandrasekharan(415) 937-2354 (O) International Web Engineer Type of Guy (415) 940-1896 (H) http://home.netscape.com/people/thaths/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO
Hello, This file has been posted to this forum a few times before in earlier versions. I would very much appreciate feedback on it. If enough people think it's a good idea, I will attempt to contribute it to the LDP. --BEGIN-- Kernel Compiling for Dummies By Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Version 1.3, Jun 16 1997, 5393 bytes For Debian users, the kernel-package package is supposed to do these things for you, but I have had rough going with it, especially in the modules department. The following steps have worked for me on multiple machines, with various kinds of hardware and booting methods (floppy, loadlin, lilo). It makes a number of assumptions (i386 architecture, use of loadable modules, installing a complete set of new kernel sources, and not a patch, etc.). If anything looks inappropriate for your setup, make backups and go with your instincts. Always, always, always make sure you keep a known good booting kernel around on floppy disk to save your bacon. It also makes sense to compile-in, rather than modularize, things that are crucial to your system's operation. This always includes the binary format you use, ELF or a.out, and I think (can someone clarify?) it also includes the filesystem type of the root disk, often ext2fs (a.k.a. e2fs); for your personal sanity compile in things you can't live without (like your network card and mouse, for example), until you're willing and ready to take the plunge with modularizing as much of the kernel as you can. Another tip: most people don't need to be told this, but it can save many headaches -- make use of the comment character (usually '#') in configuration files, like conf.modules or lilo.conf. If something doesn't work, comment it out and mention why. You'll thank yourself when you come back later to tweak things again. I would appreciate feedback on this document. I was thinking of adding a longer, more explanatory section after the quick recipe version, but some people seem to like this file short and sweet. What do you think? BEGIN *) if upgrading and if possible, preserve your old kernel sources (if your /usr/src/linux is a symlink to the old sources, remove the link *before* extracting the tar file to /usr/src, otherwise just rename /usr/src/linux) // if installing a Debian kernel-source package, do that (dpkg -i // kernel-source-x.y.zz_x.y.zz.deb) instead of the next five steps *) copy .tgz source file to /usr/src *) cd /usr/src *) tar xfz (or tar xfvz) source file (it sticks itself in /usr/src/linux) *) mv linux kernel-source-x.y.zz *) ln -s kernel-source-x.y.zz linux // if you want to preserve the asm, linux, and scsi libraries that shipped // with your libc, simply mv them before doing the symlink manipulations // below *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s asm-i386 asm *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm-i386 *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/linux linux *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/scsi scsi *) if kernel version you're compiling is the same as current version, mv /lib/modules/x.y.zz /lib/modules/x.y.zz.old *) cd /usr/src/linux; make mrproper; make (config|menuconfig|xconfig); (optionally edit Makefile); make dep; make (zImage|zlilo); make modules; make modules_install *) depmod -a (depmod -a x.y.zz using new kernel version if applicable) // NOTE: if your version of ps scans the System.map file, the psdatabase // file may be considered redundant (see the WCHAN entry in your ps // manpage to determine this). *) backup your old system map, kernel image, and psdatabase: A) cd /boot B) cp System.map System.map.old C) cp vmlinuz vmlinuz.old D) cp psdatabase psdatabase.old *) create new /boot : A) cd /usr/src/linux; cp System.map /boot/System.map-x.y.zz B) cd /usr/src/linux; cp arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot/vmlinuz-x.y.zz C) cd /; if necessary, ln -s boot/System.map-x.y.zz System.map D) cd /; if necessary, ln -s boot/vmlinuz-x.y.zz vmlinuz *) cd /boot; psupdate (creates new /boot/psdatabase) *) mv /boot/psdatabase /boot/psdatabse-x.y.zz *) ln -s psdatabase-x.y.zz psdatabase *) make sure psdatabase symlink in /etc is not broken (if you didn't have one before, you don't need it; don't bother creating it) *) edit /etc/modules appropriately (if you're using kerneld and are lucky, auto may be all you need) *) edit /etc/conf.modules (/etc/modules.conf on some systems) appropriately (for instance, you may need lines like alias eth0 de4x5 and options de4x5 io=0x0d) *) if you use lilo, check /etc/lilo.conf for correct parameters (esp. things like linear) *) backup your old kernel image(s) and then put the new ones wherever you need them, e.g.: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /dev/fd0 cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /mnt/win95/Etc/Linux *) reboot *) if insmod complains about missing modules (but not unresolved symbols), try editing /etc/conf.modules and aliasing
Re: Changing the host name
Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /etc/hostname, too . . . and then i think (not sure) you neet a reboot or midnight to pass. This can be a tricky operation. You'll have to change every config file that has cached the hostname. I'm specifically thinking of things like the sendmail config file. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Upgrade path to 1.3 from 1.2
Ok, I understand hte basics and I can follow the directions on the web site. Here's my question: After I've installed the basics (by hand), what do I tell dselect? Should I just select EVERYTHING? Are some packages more important to keep up with? I basically play to set it up, point it at ftp.debian.org, and let it run all night till it gets whatever it wants downloaded. I figure that even at 33,6k it'll take a while. Thanks. Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ecl.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Upgrade path to 1.3 from 1.2
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Will Lowe wrote: Should I just select EVERYTHING? YIKES! Don't do THAT! You will spend so much time in the conflict resolution screen that you will NEVER figure out what to do! You might take a close look at the packages marked IMPORTANT first. Select which of these you want. SOme packages will conflict, you want EITHER cnews or INN not both, same with email, you want EITHER smail, exim, qmail, sendmail but not ALL of them. You are just going to have to go down the list and decide which packages you want, when you select one that depends on another or conflicts with another, it will through you into the conflict resolution area (penalty box is my favorite term) and you get to sort it out there. If you select ALL, there are going to be so many conflicts and cross-dependancies that it is like sorting out a ball of snakes. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: I am planning on installing Debian 1.3 on my laptop. I have had prior success installing 1.2 on this same laptop. I prefer to clean up the hard-disk and start from scratch. You do? I switched to Debian a year and a half ago in the hopes I would never have to do that again! I'm probably safe saying that hundreds of other Debian users would say the same thing. I'm very curious as to why you would not just upgrade in place; one of Debian's claims to fame? ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?
Rick Macdonald wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: I am planning on installing Debian 1.3 on my laptop. I have had prior success installing 1.2 on this same laptop. I prefer to clean up the hard-disk and start from scratch. You do? I switched to Debian a year and a half ago in the hopes I would never have to do that again! I'm probably safe saying that hundreds of other Debian users would say the same thing. I'm very curious as to why you would not just upgrade in place; one of Debian's claims to fame? True that Debian has this wonderful upgrade mechanism. The problem is I did unmentionably stupid things installing additional s/w on it and the machine is all messed up. I now find local packages installed in all kinds of places. And I would like to start with a clean slate. ;-) Of course, if I absolutely cannot do what I am trying to do, I would slowly start cleaning up the machine and take the upgrade path. Sudhakar PS: Does my digital signature attachment bother folks reading this list. -- I'm all for progress. It is change that I object to. -- Mark Twain Sudhakar Chandrasekharan(415) 937-2354 (O) International Web Engineer Type of Guy (415) 940-1896 (H) http://home.netscape.com/people/thaths/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
menu package
Hi, I just did an upgrade from menu version 1.3-2 to 1.4-1 and I noticed that the program update-menus provided by the new package segmentation faults when the pre-removal and post-removal scripts execute it. This effects packages such as procps and xproc. Anyone seen this? Thanks... J. Goldman -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
First impressions on installing Debian 1.3
These are my first impressions, feel free to just delete this post. From a guy who has used Linux since 1993 or so, I found the installation to be non-trivial: - The use of a single boot disk didn't help me with my Adaptec SCSI card. I *think* there are alternative kernels in some directory, but none were found on my TRI-linux CD. - I think standard Unix jargon should be included as well as more accessible language. For example, I didn't realise that `initialize a disk' meant to reformat it's filesystem, deleting everything on the disk. - I didn't really like the interface of dselect. It's easy to get lost in there. Perhaps changing the background colour according to the context? (different background colour during conflict resolution; this package suggests this other (in blue foreground); this package conflicts altogether (in red)). I know dselect has a terrible complicated job to do. That's why i think it deserved a bit more polish. After all, it's the first reall interaction a user gets with Debian. - dselect wouln't `install' because the teTeX packages appeared to be damaged. Problem persisted even when the offending packages were deselected, until I quit and restarted dselect. This was quite aggravating. - After X was installed it wouln't start because /dev/tty0 didn't exist. - Once started, very few fvwm95 menu entries used mini-icons. Too bad. On the other hand: - I can install Slackware much more quickly than Debian, but then I have to install extra stuff like Dosemu on my own, whereas a lot of stuff is included with Debian. It'll take me weeks to explore the possible packages I could install. - The docs appear to be quite extensive. It'll take a lot of time to sort it all out! A question... - I assume that the list of installed packages is in some file. Is it possible to transfer this file to another PC to instruct Debian to install the same pacakges? I often install on several PCs and this would be a nice feature. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installing
I am having trouble installing the new version of debian. Iget all the way to the select type color or mono screen. and it stops right there. I don't think it freezes up because the cursor is still blinking. I just cant select anything. Conflict with keyboard?maybe? Any suggestions would be very help full. Thank you. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A question... - I assume that the list of installed packages is in some file. Is it possible to transfer this file to another PC to instruct Debian to install the same pacakges? I often install on several PCs and this would be a nice feature. Check out: dpkg --get-selections somefile dpkg --set-selections somefile -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
nec scsi controller
I have nearly everything working; i've even mounted afs. The last piece is the scsi cdrom. It's a NEC 16 bit controller, probably about 3 years old. As near as I can tell from the kernel documentation, I need the eato driver. I compiled this into a kernel, but I get: bash-2.00# mount /dev/sda3 /cdrom -t iso9660 mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda3 as a block device (maybe `insmod driver'?) however, the driver is built into the kernel. rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nec scsi controller
Rick == Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick I have nearly everything working; i've even mounted afs. Rick The last piece is the scsi cdrom. It's a NEC 16 bit Rick controller, probably about 3 years old. As near as I can Rick tell from the kernel documentation, I need the eato driver. Rick I compiled this into a kernel, but I get: Rick bash-2.00# mount /dev/sda3 /cdrom -t iso9660 mount: the Rick kernel does not recognize /dev/sda3 as a block device (maybe Rick `insmod driver'?) SCSI CD-ROMs are usually /dev/scd0 and up. Check dmesg | less to see exactly where it is (but it's most likely /dev/scd0.) -- Brought to you by the letters S and R and the number 18. * denotes Hot and Spicy! -- *Ben Gertzfield Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3
- I didn't really like the interface of dselect. It's easy to get lost in there. Perhaps changing the background colour according to the context? (different background colour during conflict resolution; this package suggests this other (in blue foreground); this package conflicts altogether (in red)). I know dselect has a terrible complicated job to do. That's why i think it deserved a bit more polish. After all, it's the first reall interaction a user gets with Debian. Yes, this has been mentioned. A lot of users, such as I, don't use deselect besides the base install of a few packages. I then use ftp to download the rest and dpkg to install. dpkg is very powerful and nice :) On the other hand: - I can install Slackware much more quickly than Debian, but then I have to install extra stuff like Dosemu on my own, whereas a lot of stuff is included with Debian. It'll take me weeks to explore the possible packages I could install. I'm sure after running Slackware for so long it is easy to install... I can install Debian on a machine, with X, network, all configured in about an hour and a half with an ftp install. This is installing most of the packages I currently have on my system. You will find updating versions on packages a very miniscule (sp?) task, which is nice when I don't have time for a lot of maintenance. ( I work maintaining 100 SUN machines and 4,000 users so I don't have much time for play ). - The docs appear to be quite extensive. It'll take a lot of time to sort it all out! Yes, they do! ...plus you will find a wealth of knowledge in this group, because many of the developers read/reply directly. A question... - I assume that the list of installed packages is in some file. Is it possible to transfer this file to another PC to instruct Debian to install the same pacakges? I often install on several PCs and this would be a nice feature. You can find the current 'status' of packages in the /var/lib/dpkg/status file. It is a text file and is easy to understand. I don't know if I'm one to welcome you, but I'm proud of Debian, and will boast. You made the right choice! Dennis Kelly -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 + dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] + work : 517.353.8892 + + Systems Undergrad + pager: 517.222.5875 + + Division of Engineering Computing Services + + -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nec scsi controller
Rick bash-2.00# mount /dev/sda3 /cdrom -t iso9660 mount: the Rick kernel does not recognize /dev/sda3 as a block device (maybe Rick `insmod driver'?) SCSI CD-ROMs are usually /dev/scd0 and up. Check dmesg | less to see exactly where it is (but it's most likely /dev/scd0.) hmm: EATA0: address 0x1f0 in use, skipping probe. EATA0: address 0x170 in use, skipping probe. scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. something is already getting at it. The controller does make some kind of attempt to boot from the cd, at least sometimes--i get a reference when there is no hard disk partition bootable. So how do i clear whatever has its grubby paws on the controller? rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
TaskBar: a follow-up
Well even if the documentation is still missing, I found something that maybe can interest somebody. I integrated my .fvwm95rc with the Debian menus because I found them nice to have, but since I personilyze my setup I jut added the Apps, Modules and Games ... After that TaskBar didn't work quite right: It seemed insensitive to any changes on the configuration file. Looking around I saw a note in the /etc/X11/fvwm95/system.fvm95rc-menu saying that using Read() in the configuration file breaks TaskBar. But switching form Read to FwmM4 makes TaskBar work again! If this was already obvious, I'm sorry but I didn't find it in any document. graziano -- I'ho tanti vocavoli nella mia lingua materna, ch'io m'ho piu' tosto da dolere del bene intendere le cose, che dal mancamento delle parole, colle quali io possa espriemere il concetto della mente mia. Leonardo Da Vinci Graziano Obertelli E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lab's phone: (619) 534 9669 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian and 387
Hi, I have got wine 970509 and I tried to run matlab 4 for windows 3.11. My DOS directory is mounted on /c , so I ran: wine /c/matlab/bin/matlab It first looked as if it was good but it crashed, complaining about a 80387 coprocessor missing. The problem is I have got a cyrix P166+ and I am using Debian 1.2. What could I do ? Thanks a lot. --- _ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ Le Gall Franck CNET - FRANCE TELECOM Phone: +33 96 05 35 34 2, Route de Tregastel BP 41 Fax: +33 96 05 34 31 F-22301 LANNION - FRANCE E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netatalk error: atalkd socket: Invalid argument
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Donovan) writes: If your kernel Appletalk support is compiled as a module, you'll get that error message when /etc/conf.modules file has the line: alias net-pf-5 off instead of: alias net-pf-5 appletalk I think my current conf.modules is the 1.3 default, and it has the 'off' alias, disabling appletalk. HTH, -- Ed Donovan[EMAIL PROTECTED] This certainly _did_ help. Thanks for the tip! Scott -- Scott Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Johmsweg 9a, D-21266 Jesteburg, GermanyPGP Key ID: 90A8A14D work: Inter-Research Science Publisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem with chat, diald, pppd
I've been using diald and pppd for about six months now - no problem. (Thanks to Phillipe Troin et al.) But, ISDN has arrived and the 33.6Kbps is growing old I've installed a Hayes ESP and attached a Hayes Accura ISDN TA to it. I've installed the esp module as per instructions, configured the TA, and have begun testing and I'm running into problems The Accura works perfectly on my Win95 Notebook. It also works under Linux from minicom. I can access the TA as a regular modem, run diagnostics, and dial my ISP. All works great. But, things fell apart when I tried updating my diald configuration to use the Hayes ESP/Accura combination rather than my old ttyS0 (16450) and USR Sportster. (i.e. update DEV=?? in /etc/init.d/diald) Looking at /var/log/messages, it seems as if chat is the source of my trouble. It keeps timing out because it's not getting any response from the modem. I feel this is pretty strange because minicom has no problems at all using this device. I'm running Debian GNU/Linux 1.2.16 with a custom kernel on this system I'm using minicom at 115200 N81. setserial reports /dev/ttyP40 with a baud_base of 921600 and divisor of 8. I've tried various speed settings in /dev/diald/diald.options. The only area I feel I'm a little weak on in all of this is the concept of divisors and speed_cust regarding high-speed serial I/O. Any pointers to docs covering this would be very welcome. Other than that, I can't think of what my problem might be. Why would chat have a problem communicating with my modem when minicom, etc, doesn't? Any ideas, suggestions, and/or pointers welcome! TIA, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Baan Business Systems Langley, BC, Canada -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: glibc
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote: : : : : Hmm I should have know. I installed LinuxThreads a while ago, but I removed : : it when installing pthreads. : : And of course, right now, LinuxThreads refuses to compile.. : : : : Seems the include files in /usr/include ain't correct anymore... : : : : LinuxThreads is integrated and included with libc6, there isn't a seperate : : package to install. If you've forced another thread lib dev package into : : installing, that would definatly cause you problems. You may want to : : reinstall all of the affected lib and dev packages. : : Hmm okay, but if I try to remove some packages (libc5-dev needs to be : removed before libc6-dev can be installed), it complains about for example : ncurses. Will ncurses still work when I replace libc5-dev by libc6-dev ? : : No, you need a new ncurses, available in masters' incomming. Ok.. : : : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dpkg -r libc5-dev : dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libc5-dev: : libgdbm1-dev depends on libc5-dev. : ncurses3.0-pic depends on libc5-dev. : libg++27-dev depends on libc5-dev. : ncurses3.0-dev depends on libc5-dev. : libgd1-dev depends on libc5-dev. : libdb1-dev depends on libc5-dev. : tcl76-dev depends on libc5-dev (= 5.4.0-0). : dpkg: error processing libc5-dev (--remove): : dependency problems - not removing : Errors were encountered while processing: : libc5-dev : : : Is it too dangerous to use dpkg --force- ? : : Better to remove all those libs (especially the libg++27-dev one: : why didn't you do so before installing libg++272-dev?), and try : and get libc6 ones. Not all are available, so you will not be able : to compile everything any more. Just bug the maintainers of packags : that don't have libc6 libraries yet. : : Note, however, that due to Guy's vacation, new libc6 compiled : library pacakges (with new names) will not be installed in : unstable, and can thus only be found in master's incoming. : So, if yoy want to be a Real Man/Woman, don't track unstable, : that's for whimps: track master'sincomming (only available : for maintainers). A co-developer of the Mnemonic Browser Project (hakan), who is a Debian package maintainer too, was willing to download the lib's as far as they were present in master's incoming. I'll play with it tonight. Thanks for your support guys! Remco. -- // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
lockd for debian ?
I need to export a mail directory from a Debian system to SGI and SUN machines. A few applications expect a lock daemon lockd on the exporting system. I seems that there is no such daemon for debian, We found an old Linux version 0.4 '95 from Olaf Kirch, but it does not seem to work reliable. Does anybody have a lockd for Debian ? Thanks, Markus Diesmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], w rites: Hello, This file has been posted to this forum a few times before in earlier versions. I would very much appreciate feedback on it. If enough people think it's a good idea, I will attempt to contribute it to the LDP. ... // if you want to preserve the asm, linux, and scsi libraries that shipped // with your libc, simply mv them before doing the symlink manipulations // below *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s asm-i386 asm *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm-i386 *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/linux linux *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/scsi scsi If /usr/src/linux is a symbolic link to usr/src/kernel-source.x.yy.zz and /usr/include/foo is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux/include/foo you will not need to change anything in /usr/include - it will follow the links automatically. ... *) if you use lilo, check /etc/lilo.conf for correct parameters (esp. things like linear) Leave your old kernel on the disk and make a pointer to it in /etc/lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda3 default=Linux compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 # Current kernel image=/vmlinuz label=Linux root=/dev/hda3 read-only append=mem=32M # Previous working kernel image=/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda3 label=old read-only append=mem=32M then you can reboot your old version without resorting to a rescue disk by interrupting the lilo boot sequence with the control key before the 20 second delay (delay=20) expires and entering 'old' as the kernel to boot. ... -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://homepages.enterprise.net/olly In case of connection troubles, try [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Books on Debian
David Wright wrote: Two problem(s) with a book: (a) you're really only buying a few pages of Debian-specific stuff which (b) is almost out-of-date before it's published. I'd far rather have just a good annotated bibliography of all the Debianised documentation. As I think I've said before, one really needs to be able to track down and consult documentation in the order Debian-specific Linux-specific Unix-specific I agree with you entirely on these two points. To people who has installed and used Debian before, not having a book is no big deal. But for others who don't have a clue about Debian/Linux, convincing them that they don't need a book is not a very straight forward matter. In fact, some of them get very nervous on the suggestion that they might not be able to buy any book on that particular Linux distribution which they are about to get. I think a book in cases like these is more of a symbol for the peace of mind than anything else. My point is, having Debain's book on the shelves of bookshops raises the visibility of Debain and may actually encourage people to choose it over other distributions. H.C. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bruce on congress in germany
Good morning everyone, I hope you find your day going well. I am organizing a congress in fall, Sept 27th and 28th. One schedule is titled 'New Technologies' and will contain several Linux and Debian talks. We have invited Bruce Perens to talk about Debian GNU/Linux there. Richard Stallman will also hold a talk. We plan to organize some more Debian activities there. Please check out the web pages. If you can afford coming to germany you're invited to participance the congress. There will be possibilities for pgp signing. If you want to participate in them you're invited to send us your pgp public key before leaving for the congress. Please send the public key to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the `office.' may be left out if the alias is set up). Here are some additional data: Kongress des Individual Network e.V. September 27 28 1997 Quellenhof, Aachen, Germany http://www.individual.net/congress/ Organization: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN-CA: http://www.in-ca.individual.net/ Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The good thing about standards is / / that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From a guy who has used Linux since 1993 or so, I found the installation to be non-trivial: ... - I didn't really like the interface of dselect. It's easy to get lost in there. Perhaps changing the background colour according to the context? (different background colour during conflict resolution; this package suggests this other (in blue foreground); this package conflicts altogether (in red)). I know dselect has a terrible complicated job to do. That's why i think it deserved a bit more polish. After all, it's the first reall interaction a user gets with Debian. There is a project which is working on replacing dselect. I'd like to suggest you to install/use packages like menu and dwww. You will see how powerful is the distribution. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: I am planning on installing Debian 1.3 on my laptop. I have had prior success installing 1.2 on this same laptop. I prefer to clean up the hard-disk and start from scratch. You do? I switched to Debian a year and a half ago in the hopes I would never have to do that again! I'm probably safe saying that hundreds of other Debian users would say the same thing. I'm very curious as to why you would not just upgrade in place; one of Debian's claims to fame? Those of us who followed the recommendations of the docs installed 1.1 on one partition. I upgraded to 1.2 by just gradually installing all the 1.2 packages, but now I have realised the error of one partition and I will be installing 1.3 from a clean hard disk on to several partitions - with /home and /usr/local backed up and reinstalled of course. Ed -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nec scsi controller
Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] EATA0: address 0x1f0 in use, skipping probe. EATA0: address 0x170 in use, skipping probe. scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. [snip] So how do i clear whatever has its grubby paws on the controller? cat /proc/ioports (or run lsdev) should give you some idea. FWIW, 0x1f0 is the PIIX IDE controller on mine. -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our mail program accidentally deleted our remove list. - Real quote from UCE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Books on Debian
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote: David Wright wrote: Two problem(s) with a book: (a) you're really only buying a few pages of Debian-specific stuff which (b) is almost out-of-date before it's published. I'd far rather have just a good annotated bibliography of all the Debianised documentation. As I think I've said before, one really needs to be able to track down and consult documentation in the order Debian-specific Linux-specific Unix-specific I agree with you entirely on these two points. To people who has installed and used Debian before, not having a book is no big deal. I also agree. Only a few pages of hardcopy are needed. Consider the candidate for a thick 'Complete Debian' type of book: 1) His hardware is too strange to get base and a few things installed. 2) He has no way to browse a CD. 3) He has no way to view web pages. 4) He can't send/receive email and use this list. 5) He can't print anything. He needs hardware, connectivity, or friends more than a book. A complete book would be a convenience to me, but I would rather spend the money on hardware. I have a lot of 'obsolete' hardware that is still productive. I can't say the same for most of the software and books that I purchased. If I had spent the money at a good restaurant, I would at least have some good memories for it. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Big problem with TeX/LaTeX
Paul Rightley writes: teTeX does seem to install now (and I do not have the TeX environment variables set... To me, this is not right. This means that I cannot use dselect to remove the teTeX packages and then reinstall them without executing commands not related to dselect. Is this a fault with one of the install scripts? It has apparently bitten several people other then myself. Please tell me which variables you had to unset so I can add them to the scripts. The install-scripts unset: TETEXDIR= TEXMF= TEXINPUTS= C. Martin Thanks for such a great distribution, Paul On 23-Jun-97 Christoph Martin wrote: Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about TEX specific environment variables as sugested in the output? Unset all of them for installation. Christoph I was wondering if anyone has run into this lately and if it is something I am doing wrong... I have used the 'new' tetex packages of Debian for some time now. I was recently 'forced' to remove X and tex from my machine temporarily. Now I have X back and running, but am having problems getting the tetex packages to install and work. (I have seen at least one other posting describing one of the symptoms I am having.) I start with a 'tex-clean' system. Then I do a dpkg -i tetex-base_0.4pl6-5.deb This seems to work fine. Then I do dpkg -i tetex-bin_0.4pl6-8.deb and things start going wrong. When it tries to configure the package, it produces errors like: Please set the environment variable TETEXDIR or TEXMFCNF correctly. For details see the teTeX and the Kpathsea manual kpsetool: language.dat not found. kpsetool: modes.mf not found. kpsetool: texmf.cnf not found. /usr/bin/texconfig: cd: /web2c: No such file or directory Error opening terminal: generic. /usr/bin/texconfig: /tmp/texconf4119/logfile: No such file or directory Output of initex is in /tmp/texconfig.out If you want to change the default settings, use /usr/bin/texconfig to configure teTeX. Running /usr/bin/texconfig produces similar errors. Now, when I go to latex something, I get This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (C version 6.1) I can't find the default format file! Which is the symptom reported recently in this mail list. What should I do to get a working latex installation? Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nec scsi controller
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: hmm: EATA0: address 0x1f0 in use, skipping probe. EATA0: address 0x170 in use, skipping probe. scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. something is already getting at it. The controller does make some kind of attempt to boot from the cd, at least sometimes--i get a reference when there is no hard disk partition bootable. 1f0 is the standard address for IDE0, 170 for IDE1 If you are not using any IDE drives, maybe you have the interfaces enabled on the motherboard( if they're builtins) or multi I/O card. Try disabling them or changing the nec card to another address. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
Is anyone actually using the debian radius package? It doesn't appear to work in any fashion. It seems like all the binaries are looking for /usr/private/etc/raddb/ as in: Are you using the Merit or Livingstone version? dict_init: Couldn't open dictionary: /usr/private/etc/raddb/dictionary Did I just miss some config parameter? I had a play with the Merit version and completely failed to get it to work. I wrote it off as my inexperience and haven't had a change to play with it properly yet. Adam. - Earthlight Communications Limited P.O. Box 5301 Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New Zealand Systems Manager(voice) +64 3 479 0303 -- http://larry.earthlight.co.nz/ -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
In your email to me, Adam Shand, you wrote: Is anyone actually using the debian radius package? It doesn't appear to work in any fashion. It seems like all the binaries are looking for /usr/private/etc/raddb/ as in: Are you using the Merit or Livingstone version? Right now, Merit. The livingston seemed to run, but would never authenticate. The merit version at least has radcheck to see if you are answering queries.. dict_init: Couldn't open dictionary: /usr/private/etc/raddb/dictionary Did I just miss some config parameter? I had a play with the Merit version and completely failed to get it to work. I wrote it off as my inexperience and haven't had a change to play with it properly yet. Since my email, I've made progress. It seems like you have to include both the -d and -g flags when you start up radiusd for it to keep running. radcheck now at least tells me radiusd is running. It still doesn't authenticate a known correct userid/passwd combo, but that's another day. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Camp food always tastes better in the dark! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
I compiled Merit and actually got it to work last year on a non-Debian system. It involved a bit of study and doing things manually. I started at an ISP that had a Cisco 2516 router and tacacs+ on NT. I switched to 2 Linux systems on an isolated (coax) ethernet. I was able to get client and server working together this way. I had to use netwatch on each end just to get the basic communication going. I seem to remember wanting to switch to Livingston for some reason, but the project ended because the 'sysadmin' for the ISP would only work with NT and he was very affordable. He wouldn't configure the Cisco to set up a dialup test port. Unless things have improved a lot, you really need to unpack the source to get an idea of what radius needs/wants. I remember having the dictionary messages. Was it a line in passwd/groups and ownership? I wish I remembered exactly. On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Adam Shand wrote: Is anyone actually using the debian radius package? It doesn't appear to work in any fashion. It seems like all the binaries are looking for /usr/private/etc/raddb/ as in: Are you using the Merit or Livingstone version? dict_init: Couldn't open dictionary: /usr/private/etc/raddb/dictionary Did I just miss some config parameter? I had a play with the Merit version and completely failed to get it to work. I wrote it off as my inexperience and haven't had a change to play with it properly yet. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Where is libc6 ????????
Hi, I am trying to find the LIBC6 package but with no luck. The new menu package r equires it and I cannot find it anywhere. Thanks == Eddie Katz == [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where is libc6 ????????
/hamm/hamm/binary/base I hope the 'new' menu package came from hamm if it requires libc6. On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Eddie Katz wrote: Hi, I am trying to find the LIBC6 package but with no luck. The new menu package r equires it and I cannot find it anywhere. Thanks == Eddie Katz == [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote: I compiled Merit and actually got it to work last year on a non-Debian system. It involved a bit of study and doing things manually. I started at an ISP that had a Cisco 2516 router and tacacs+ on NT. I switched to 2 Linux systems on an isolated (coax) ethernet. I was able to get client and server working together this way. I had to use netwatch on each end just to get the basic communication going. Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off' now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played with the merit version and shadow? Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Camp food always tastes better in the dark! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[no subject]
I am new to Linux and am currently attempting to install the Debian 1.2.17 Linux Distribution. I have successfully written the floppy disks and installed the base system. My problem is with the detection of my Pro Audio Spectrum 16 SCSI controller (= sound card) and the CDROM drive. I have used as a bootprompt: pas16=0x388,irq, with all possible values for irq filled in. Each time I get abortion of commands, e.g. a line which says: scsi0: command aborted or: scsi0: disconnected_queue. In the linux SCSI HOWTO under section 5.15 PAS16 SCSI (Standard) I read Common Problems: Command timeouts, aborts, etc. You should install the NCR5380 patches that I posted to the net some time ago, which should be integrated into some future alpha release. These patches fix a race condition in earlier NCR5380 driver cores, as well as fixing support for multiple devices on NCR5380 based boards. If that fails, you should disable the PSEUDO_DMA option by changing the #define PSEUDO_DMA line in drivers/scsi/pas16.c to #undef PSEUDO_DMA. Note that the later should be considered a last resort, because there will be a severe performance degradation. End of quote from SCSCI HOWTO. My problem is that even if I knew where to find the patch which is mentioned, that I do not have anything installed apart from the base system. The packages like the GNU CC compiler, are still unavailable to me, because they are on the CDROM which has not correctly been detected. Please help me! I think what I need is for someone who is maintaining the Debian releases, to incorporate the above mentioned patch in the kernel or other part of the base system. Then a new floppy image needs to be produced, I don't know whether this would be a new version of the rescue floppy, i.e. file rsc1440.bin, or one of the base floppies. If I can download this new floppy image I will be able to write it to a floppy using rawrite2, and then I can do the installation again, starting with the rescue floppy. From all the information which I have read in my Media Vision Double Fusion LX sound card + cdrom drive manual and the information in the CDROM HOWTO, the bootprompt HOWTO and the SCSI HOWTO, I feel sure that I should use the bootprompt pas16=0x388,irq and not any other of the bootprompts which are described for other controllers and CDROM drives. I would appreciate it very much if I could hear in the near future that a new version of one of the floppy images have been produced, which would solve the detection of the CDROM. My next question is: Which of the Device Driver Modules in the installation setup should I configure? I have so far had no success in configuring any of them. Last question: in the dselect /access step for installing from a CDROM I am asked to mention the block device driver. I have tried all kinds of things, such as /dev/sbpcd0, /dev/sjcd /dev/scd0 etc, but nothing has worked so far. What should I enter here, assuming that my CDROM has been correctly detected through the bootprompt? I hope I will soon be able to continue the installation of my new Debian Linux distribution! Yours, Martien de Groot e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installing
Coby Pritchard wrote: I am having trouble installing the new version of debian. Iget all the way to the select type color or mono screen. and it stops right there. I don't think it freezes up because the cursor is still blinking. I just cant select anything. Conflict with keyboard?maybe? Any suggestions would be very help full. Thank you. Why don't you tell us about the computer you're installing it on. Is it a laptop? If so, go into your BIOS and disable power management. You may be able to get it to work later. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
First, let me thank all those that responded to my `impressions' post. I'll reply to this one, and leave it at that. (I thought Debian's installation asked whether you were really sure about running mke2fs, It does, it does. Just a case of initial culture shock. - I assume that the list of installed packages is in some file. Is it possible to transfer this file to another PC to instruct Debian to install the same pacakges? I often install on several PCs and this would be a nice feature. first:~ $ dpkg --get-selections selections other:~ # dpkg --set-selections selections This is a very nice feature indeed. An idea about `menu': I think the a frustrating thing with Linux is finding out what's available. I think what would attract people to Linux is *showing* them all that's available. If actual `commands' available in packges were documented somewhere (maybe they are), it would be possible to build a window-manager menu where installed commands would be listed (like `menu' does) but also include `available but not installed' comamnds. The menu entries could be shaded or have a different colour, and instead of running the command, selecting the menu entry would pop up a description along with the name of the package that held it (it could even optionally install it!). Maybe making a menu entry for each package (instead of commands) would be good enough, or even better if a package hold dozens of realted commands. I don't know if Debian provides enough info to do this in /var/lib/dpkg. My perl or awk skills may be up to the task of extracting the required info to build the menu. What's missing is an X tool to display the package description from a file (or a part extracted from a file). I don't do windows... Thoughts? Is this a good idea? Another question: There are many upgrades to make to use a 2.1.X kernels. Are there Debian packages to do these upgrades? (I have an IDE/ATAPI PD-CD; I need 2.1.X if I ever want to see the PD side working.) -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off' now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played with the merit version and shadow? If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is necessary because of different Linux shadow methods. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Changing the host name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to change the hostname manually. I did the command hostname new name , and I went into /etc/hosts and replace the old hostname with the new one. Is it anything other command or file that I need to edit to conpletelly change the hostname?? I also noticed that the login prompt and shell prompt still display the old name. /etc/hostname, too . . . and then i think (not sure) you neet a reboot or midnight to pass. What did the trick for me: 1) change /etc/hostname then say hostname --file /etc/hostname 2) change IP-address entry in /etc/hosts 3) rerun sendmailconfig 4) change /etc/resolv.conf if domain changed too 5) change /etc/mailname (Did I forget something?) No reboot is necessary. Nils - -- \ /| Nils Rennebarth --* WINDOWS 42 *-- | Schillerstr. 61 / \| 37083 Göttingen | ++49-551-71626 Micro$oft's final answer | http://www.nus.de/~nils -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBM6/aDlptA0IhBm0NAQFligL/VZvxd/YH3TLqGK0WmQrqIox4IfJAG9fp /3Nk43PEeGqsbYcjddKR8XgiXhYtDkjfaJ7FxwKVmVyza21SzM0cOnhBDSJo1ZAh JN01hYVP+vB3KkFtlG+5c1R6t0IZdvpx =dOLW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off' now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played with the merit version and shadow? If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is necessary because of different Linux shadow methods. I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your leased line, plug this all in and turn it on. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Camp food always tastes better in the dark! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:38:28 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off' now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played with the merit version and shadow? If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is necessary because of different Linux shadow methods. I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your leased line, plug this all in and turn it on. This is what we will be working on Linux Router Project www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?
SC == Sudhakar Chandrasekharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SC PS: Does my digital signature attachment bother folks reading this SC list. It's just that sometimes there is more signature than message. Pretty annoying, IMO. -- Emilio C. Lopes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fvwm2 and the focus
Hi, I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following maner : If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the active one and raises on the top. I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc file in order to have the required behaviour. Can anyone help me ? Thank you very much Santi MAURO UFR de Mathematique Universite de Paris 7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: An idea about `menu': I think the a frustrating thing with Linux is finding out what's available. I think what would attract people to Linux is *showing* them all that's available. You mean package-wise? Generally I check out www.debian.org, altho certain packages aren't available from there, such as the pgp ones. Maybe it'd be usefull if a search for packages which are known to exist but can't or aren't located on master could point us to a mirror which has them? Maybe making a menu entry for each package (instead of commands) would be good enough, or even better if a package hold dozens of realted commands. I don't know if Debian provides enough info to do this in /var/lib/dpkg. My perl or awk skills may be up to the task of extracting the required info to build the menu. What's missing is an X tool to display the package description from a file (or a part extracted from a file). I don't do windows... It'd probably be pretty easy to write something basic but useful in tcl/tk, which is a relatively standard installation. It has lots of display this text-sortof commands. And it frontends well to most things. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ecl.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:38:28 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off' now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played with the merit version and shadow? If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is necessary because of different Linux shadow methods. I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your leased line, plug this all in and turn it on. This is what we will be working on Linux Router Project www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot of modems on a 56k line. Tim PS: Has anyone gotten the CSO/qi server running under Debian yet? -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Camp food always tastes better in the dark! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Books on Debian
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote: My point is, having Debain's book on the shelves of bookshops raises the visibility of Debain and may actually encourage people to choose it over other distributions. Very true. I had heard about linux for some time before first trying it somewhere back arould kernel version 1.1. A book with a very poor version of Slackware was my start. The book was actually pretty useless. But without the book I would never have had the courage to try it. I often see people at the local Barnes and Noble requesting a linux book with a CD. This almost always means they start with Slackware ( as I did ) or Red Hat on occasion. My start with Debian came about 6 months ago. I found dselect and the rest of the packaging system confusing. Frustrating at that time was man pages that said they were not up to date - read the docs. The doc files also said they were not up to date - read the man pages. Now that was very circular and not at all helpful. Someone totally new to linux would probably be even more confused. Often those new to linux do not even know how to find and view the documentation. A book would make a nice security blanket :-) http://www.sound.net/~wpmills/ - : W. Paul Mills : Bill, I was there several years ago. : : Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. : Why would I want to go back tomorrow?: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Where were you! : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Linux: Tomorrow's operating system, : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :here, today. : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : compuserve 70023,1750 : #define MY_TRUE_LOVE computer: -- http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs ispell -- request for bug confirmation
I'd appreciate if someone could help confirm/deny two possible bugs. Regarding emacs and ispell (and iamerican) for Debian 1.3: - if iamerican is not installed, using ispell under emacs incorrectly yields an error message indicating that 'ispell -v' does not output it's version line (this appears to be a bug in ispell.el, but I'd like to get an independent confirmation before submitting a bug report); - on a clean Debian 1.3 install, 'dpkg -i ispell_3.1.20-0.1.deb' followed by 'dpkg -i iamerican_3.1.20-0.1.deb' yields a failed iamerican installation: Setting up iamerican (3.1.20-0.1) ... Please wait while I search for ispell dictionaries... There is only one installed dictionary - american. Making american the default ispell dictionary...update-alternatives: unable to install /etc/alternatives/ispell-dictionary.hash.dpkg-tmp as /etc/alternatives/ispell-dictionary.hash dpkg: error processing iamerican (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: iamerican This appears to be a problem with the postinst script (using update-alternatives). Again, I'd appreciate independent confirmation before I submit any kind of bug report. Thank you. John --- Start of forwarded message --- Date: 23 Jun 1997 01:04:40 -0400 From: John M. Rulnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: emacs ispell Reply-to: John M. Rulnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using emacs_19.34-11.deb with ispell_3.1.18-11.deb or ispell_3.1.20-0.1.deb, attempting to use any ispell function (for example, M-$) within emacs, I get the message ispell did not output version line and the command fails. Strange. So I'd be grateful to anyone who can clue me in to what's wrong. I'm running Debian 1.3 and Linux 2.1.43. Thanks. John P.S. Note that 'ispell -v' from the command line yields @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 10/10/95 @(#) Copyright (c), 1983, by Pace Willisson @(#) International version Copyright (c) 1987, 1988, 1990-1995, [etc.] --- End of forwarded message --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What good is the default .alias file?
What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel? It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing. If it was in the format: alias lsa=ls -a it would be useful. How is this any good? alias a alias alias loada 'source ~/.alias' alias loadalias loada alias log watchlog Maybe I'm just not shell savy enough to know what to do with this. I mean I could rip it part with cut, tr, etc but that seems a little extreme. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:23:14 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your leased line, plug this all in and turn it on. This is what we will be working on Linux Router Project www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot of modems on a 56k line. Combining your data and terminal server is bad practice and a bad idea. If you also intend to do all routing from the box you are crazy. router/terminal server, ok but web/ftp/etc should be in a separate box. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
problems with PCMCIA network card 3COM 3C589D
Hi, I'm having problems attaching my portable to the network from within Linux. It used to work fine with a 3Com Etherlink III 3C589C network card, however I just got a new shipment of 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D cards and these do not seem to be compatible at all. Did anybody succeeded in getting these cards to function properly? Any help would be very much apreciated. Thanks in advance, Nico. -- -- Nico De Ranter Sony Objective Composer (SOCOM) Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth Telephone: +32 2 724 17 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian 1.3: Boot on ThinkPad 760EL
As I have read in Deja News others have (had?) the same problem I do. The new Rescue Disk does not work on my (new as well) ThinkPad. Other distrubutions do not seem to have this problem. Am I missing something obvious? Is there a solution I am not aware of? Thanx, -- Martin Fehlhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What good is the default .alias file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel? It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing. If it was in the format: alias lsa=ls -a it would be useful. How is this any good? alias a alias alias loada 'source ~/.alias' alias loadalias loada alias log watchlog It is good because it contains csh/tcsh aliases, not bash aliases. A slightly different beast. - -- Scott K. Ellis |In order to live freely and happily, http://www.gate.net/~storm/| you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice. |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM6/wRqCk2fENdzpVAQF3awQAk/fdi6lPL8rdxiiHNfqrCoSj8i9J8i1M U1nIy4v5rnUmO9T35RsbxOhRahnIOakLU0lP1sJmB4YaxwLcdlQs1ZddlNhRYnIK HvlkAI/4eiurP2j+kv/CxBYdd+ebsra+b/MHnbcRtWSLDse1ERK3Lg1QQIYV3BZ3 NBaA1RR5E8E= =YLH3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fvwm2 and the focus
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Santi Mauro wrote: Hi, I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following maner : If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the active one and raises on the top. I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc file in order to have the required behaviour. Can anyone help me ? I use the olvwm window manager for this very reason. It moves focus only on a mouse click. In addition to the raise to the top that you request, you can also change the focus to that window without raising it to the top. Clicking on the title bar brings the window to the top, but you can focus on the text portion of the window without bringing it to the top. This is very useful if you want to enter data in a window but you don't want it to cover the window you are copying from. So, try out olvwm and see if it doesn't do just what you want. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian 1.3: Boot on ThinkPad 760EL
Boot from the tecra boot disk in disks-i386/current/tecra/resc1440.bin This works on Thinkpads, too. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fvwm2 and the focus
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following maner : If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the active one and raises on the top. I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc file in order to have the required behaviour. Can anyone help me ? From the fvwm2 man page: ClickToFocus instructs fvwm to give the focus to the window when it is clicked in. The default MouseFocus (or its alias FocusFollowsMouse) tells fvwm to give the window the focus as soon as the pointer enters the window, and take it away when the pointer leaves the window. SloppyFocus is sim- ilar, but doesn't give up the focus if the pointer leaves the window to pass over the root window or a ClickToFocus window (unless you click on it, that is), which makes it possible to move the mouse out of the way without losing focus. GlobalOpts [options] This is a TEMPORARY command used to set some global options which will later be handled as Style parms (or options to Style parms). It currently handles the following: SmartPlacementIsReallySmart/Smart- PlacementIsNormal, ClickToFocusDoesntPass- Click/ClickToFocusPassesClick,ClickToFocusDoes- ntRaise/ClickToFocusRaises,MouseFocusClickDoes- ntRaise/MouseFocusClickRaises ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs ispell -- request for bug confirmation
John M. Rulnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - on a clean Debian 1.3 install, 'dpkg -i ispell_3.1.20-0.1.deb' followed by 'dpkg -i iamerican_3.1.20-0.1.deb' yields a failed iamerican installation: What kernel are you running? Did you compile a special one? We thought we had tracked this problem to the newest kernels. Thanks -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian 1.3: Boot on ThinkPad 760EL
Martin Fehlaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I have read in Deja News others have (had?) the same problem I do. The new Rescue Disk does not work on my (new as well) ThinkPad. Other distrubutions do not seem to have this problem. Am I missing something obvious? Is there a solution I am not aware of? You need a different kernel (zImage instead of bzImage) on the rescue disk. Debian has to use bzImage kernels in order to accomodate all the drivers they need, but some ThinkPads can't handle them. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
turning shadow on
Hi, I've upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 w/o too much trouble. At that time I did not turn shadow on. Now I would like to do it. Should I do a shadowconfig on and cross my fingers or is there something further? I've installed almost all the stuff from stable. []s Mario O.de Menezesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Nuclear and Energetic Research Institute - IPEN-CNEN/SP BRAZIL | | http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario - - http://www.ipen.br| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
NFS problems with Debian server and Solaris client
I'm having problems getting Solaris 2.5.1 to use the Debian NFS server. Read only file systems work fine. On read-write file systems, the Solaris client works fine initially but then gets confused. It no longer can create files or directories, is unable to delete them, doesn't recognize directories as directories, and complains about the user not being the owner. ls seems to list them out properly. Debian NFS clients seem to work fine. I've tried a number of mount options without success. Has anyone used Debian as an NFS server with Solaris? -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?
Ed Down wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: I am planning on installing Debian 1.3 on my laptop. I have had prior success installing 1.2 on this same laptop. I prefer to clean up the hard-disk and start from scratch. You do? I switched to Debian a year and a half ago in the hopes I would never have to do that again! I'm probably safe saying that hundreds of other Debian users would say the same thing. I'm very curious as to why you would not just upgrade in place; one of Debian's claims to fame? Those of us who followed the recommendations of the docs installed 1.1 on one partition. I upgraded to 1.2 by just gradually installing all the 1.2 packages, but now I have realised the error of one partition and I will be installing 1.3 from a clean hard disk on to several partitions - with /home and /usr/local backed up and reinstalled of course. The same in my case too. Ideally, I would like to have seperate partitions for /, /usr, /usr/local, /home and /root. One wants to maintain a clean machine. ;-) Another thing. The more installs and re-installs that one does, the more one learns in the process - IMO. I have had hours of bliss (and learning) installing Debian on all kinds of machines. Sudhakar -- I'm all for progress. It is change that I object to. -- Mark Twain Sudhakar Chandrasekharan(415) 937-2354 (O) International Web Engineer Type of Guy (415) 940-1896 (H) http://home.netscape.com/people/thaths/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Books on Debian
Paul Wade wrote: I also agree. Only a few pages of hardcopy are needed. Consider the candidate for a thick 'Complete Debian' type of book: 1) His hardware is too strange to get base and a few things installed. 2) He has no way to browse a CD. 3) He has no way to view web pages. 4) He can't send/receive email and use this list. 5) He can't print anything. He needs hardware, connectivity, or friends more than a book. A complete book would be a convenience to me, but I would rather spend the money on hardware. I have a lot of 'obsolete' hardware that is still productive. I can't say the same for most of the software and books that I purchased. If I had spent the money at a good restaurant, I would at least have some good memories for it. I have found that all I needed for Installation and Getting started with Debian are - * The Debian Installation instructions printed out * A book like 'The Linux Bible' which has all the HOWTOs and mini HOWTOs. In my case I had only one machine on my desktop and it happened to be the machine on which I was installing Debian. So my normal channel for surfing the web was cut off till I could get my box on net net. If that were not the case, one does not need the HOWTOs. Has anybody tried to convert Matt Welsh to Debian? If he starts using Debian I think he will change his excellent 'Installation and Getting Started' to deal with Debian instead of (shudder) Slackware. ;-) Sudhakar -- I'm all for progress. It is change that I object to. -- Mark Twain Sudhakar Chandrasekharan(415) 937-2354 (O) International Web Engineer Type of Guy (415) 940-1896 (H) http://home.netscape.com/people/thaths/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Prob Removing Latex pkg
I've been upgrading to Debian 1.3 w/o problems except for the tetex upgrade. I've followed the instructions that tell me to first remove the tex packages and install the tetex ones. However, there is a problem when I try to remove the latex package. Apparently the latex.prerm script calls install-fmt-base. Well, I don't have or at least cannot locate install-fmt-base. (*I believe that is the exact name. I'm writing this from memory while at work.) Does anyone know a work-around/fix for this? Mark Mabry [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
first experience with defrag: have slight problem.
I have installed the Debian defrag v 0.61-1 package and tried it out. My partition table looks like sda1 / 100 Mb sda2 /usr400 Mb sdb1 /var 20 Mb sdb2 /mnt/sdb2 280 Mb soft linked, contains /usr/local, /usr/src sdb3 swap 20 Mb sdc1 /home 1020 Mb I have successfully e2defrag on sdc1, sdb2, and sdb1 by booting in single user mode [at lilo prompt, 'linux single'], and first umount these partitions. However, I cannot defrag sda1 nor sda2 since I cannot umount these first. I also tried booting with Debian rescue disk, going into the shell, copying e2defrag onto the ramdisk, and attempting a defrag of these partitions from there. defrag will not run since still does not have everything it needs [probably libc5 ?] I don't think I really want to defrag the root partition (sda1) anyway do I? How could I defrag sda2 (which I would like to do)? BTW, the program and graphical progress are great. Reminds me of old Norton utilities days on DOS! -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | \--/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:23:14 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your leased line, plug this all in and turn it on. This is what we will be working on Linux Router Project www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot of modems on a 56k line. Combining your data and terminal server is bad practice and a bad idea. True.. thats not what I'm doing though. Like I said, it's a pop.. everything goes back to the main network. If you also intend to do all routing from the box you are crazy. router/terminal server, ok but web/ftp/etc should be in a separate box. Right. But forwardonly DNS and a web *cache* (within limits of the cpu and memory) can run happily on the same box. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Time flies like an arrow... Fruit Flies like a Banana! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Video card not located
I'm a Debian newbie, but not a Linux newbie. Upon running my Xserver, it says it Can't probe screen #0, which the vendor says means the video card is not being located. I've installed all the X packages.deb. Perhaps I'm missing a driver or something? I was able to drive this equipment at 24bits 1600x1200 under RedHat linux, but am interested in runing Debian. Any ideas? Thx. OS Debian 1.3 Xserver Accelerated X v2.1 video Matrox Millenium (4mb) monitor viewsonic PT810 -jon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problems with PCMCIA network card 3COM 3C589D
Nico De Ranter wrote: Hi, I'm having problems attaching my portable to the network from within Linux. It used to work fine with a 3Com Etherlink III 3C589C network card, however I just got a new shipment of 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D cards and these do not seem to be compatible at all. Did anybody succeeded in getting these cards to function properly? I use this card and it worked flawlessly with zero (all I did was install pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules and dhcpcd) configuration. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fvwm2 and the focus
Santi Mauro wrote: I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following maner : If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the active one and raises on the top. I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc file in order to have the required behaviour. Can anyone help me ? I assume you mean If I click with the mouse on the border of a window. How would the receiving window know if the click was intended for the window itself or simply to raise it and grab focus? I'm guess you're looking for the Windoze-style, where sometimes a click (if it's over a certain control) seems to just raise/grab-focus and sometimes it does something more. Did you know that with the default bindings ALT-clicking on a window raises it, while an ALT-right-click lowers it? Perhaps this would serve your needs? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers
Kirk Hilliard wrote: Subject: Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers Kirk Hilliard wrote: How do I get Netscape to not use a SOCKS host for machines in my local domain? I am running Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) on my Debian 1.2 box, which is on a network behind a (SOCKS 4) firewall. After I set Options/Network Preferences/Proxies to Manual Proxy Configuration and filled in the SOCKS Host field it had no problems getting through to the outside world. However, it goes through the SOCKS host even to contact local http servers. (This is a problem because the SOCKS host is in a different building to which I am connected with only 10Kbps pipe.) I set the No Proxy for field to the local domain name but this had no effect. Mozilla/3.0Gold (WinNT; 1), similarly set up to use the SOCKS host, connects to local http servers directly, even without an entry in the No Proxy for field. Jens B. Jorgensen replied: If the net you want to be local is, say, 192.168.2.0, (class-C) then in the No Proxy for field put '192.168.2.'. Get the idea? Jens, Thanks, for the help, but I have tried both this (with and without the third dot) and putting the full four byte dotted IP address for the server in the field, and it connects but still goes through the SOCKS host. Does this actually work for you? (One way to find out is to use a CGI script which prints out $REMOTE_HOST.) If so, what version of netscape are you using? I have also tried the symbolic address both for the local net and for the server, and all of the above followed by :80 (the port number), all to no avail. Any hints? Hmmm. Curioser and curioser. When I received this reply I tried to reach a local web server and... it didn't work! I have my socks server set to *not* forward local-to-local requests, and Netscape *was* trying to reach the local server through my socks host. Now, it just so happens that at the time I did this test, I was dialed out to a remote network (I run WinNT 4.0 Svc Pak 1 while working-- unfortunately this is the platform I develop on). But then, if I shut down the dial-up connection, then the No proxy for: 192.168.2. works just fine. I don't know how this relates to your setup, but this is clearly a bug. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NFS problems with Debian server and Solaris client
I do have similar problems serving SGI machines. It might depend on the way a file system is mounted e.g. hard vs. soft, but I'am not sure, still testing ... Markus Diesmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: turning shadow on
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: Hi, I've upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 w/o too much trouble. At that time I did not turn shadow on. Now I would like to do it. Should I do a shadowconfig on and cross my fingers or is there something further? I've installed almost all the stuff from stable. This should work fine. If you have not installed X yet, and intend to, you will need to switch it off and then on again after the installation to get the correct xdm for shadow. This has been fixed in the 3.3-3 version of X. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Video card not located
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jon Stearley wrote: runing Debian. Any ideas? Thx. The millenium is now supported by XF86. You might want to try it out ... the driver is probably under unstable on ftp.debian.org. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ecl.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fvwm2 and the focus
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Did you know that with the default bindings ALT-clicking on a window raises it, while an ALT-right-click lowers it? Perhaps this would serve your needs? I got so used to this on my Linux machine that I set up my Solaris/CDE in the office with the same bindings. I'm tempted to junk CDE and install fvwm2... :-) ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
weird routing problems.
I somehow did something that affects route. I have the simple settings
that the debian installer automatically sets up in my /etc/init.d/network
file.
This ifconfig's the eth0 interface appropriatly, set's up the network, but
when it tries to set the default route, I get.
chum# route add default gw 132.250.89.81
route: eth0_broadcast: cannot use a NETWORK as gateway!
Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [Address_families] List kernel routing tables
route {-V|--version} Display command version and
exit.
route {-h|--help} [Address_family]Usage Syntax for specified
AF.
route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ... Modify routing table for AF.
Address_families: inet,ddp,ipx,netrom,ax25
specify AF: -A af1,af2.. or --af1 --af2 or af_route
however, if I replace the 132.250.89.81 with pacfw (what /etc/hosts
says is 132.250.89.81), everything works.
Does anyone have a clue why the ip address doesn't work, but the name I
gave the machine in /etc/hosts does work.
Thanks,
Shaya
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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
I think the a frustrating thing with Linux is finding out what's available. I think what would attract people to Linux is *showing* them all that's available. You mean package-wise? Yeah. What's missing is an X tool to display the package description from a file (or a part extracted from a file). I don't do windows... It'd probably be pretty easy to write something basic but useful in tcl/tk, which is a relatively standard installation. It has lots of display this text-sortof commands. And it frontends well to most things. Right. I'm not sure if fvwm95 menu entries calling a simple tk/tcl program to display info on one package is better than a styandalone tk/tcl package to provide info on all available packages. The standalone package could be used with any window manager. I just like the idea of Debain shipping with fvwm95 menus filled with entries describing hundreds of packages :-) -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I'm not sure if fvwm95 menu entries calling a simple tk/tcl program to display info on one package is better than a styandalone tk/tcl package to provide info on all available packages. The standalone package could be used with any window manager. I just like the idea of Debain shipping with fvwm95 menus filled with entries describing hundreds of packages :-) Well: I like the idea of a X-based package information system. I also think it'd be neat if that same information system was capable of doing installation; this is easy enough with a simple script to call dpkg if you can work around the dependencies. I'm not an fvwm95 user, so naturally I'm not going to push it to be tied to that interface. I was thinking that perhaps this might be a decent java application: you could write essentially the same code to run locally in your java-enabled kernel, and those with web sites that mirror debian packages could use the same code (with a few modifications) to run in netscape across the net and find/display package info, so that you could run the system ON the ftp site ... Don't know how excited the sysadmins would be tho. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ecl.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Video card not located
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jon Stearley wrote: I'm a Debian newbie, but not a Linux newbie. Upon running my Xserver, it says it Can't probe screen #0, which the vendor says means the video card is not being located. I've installed all the X packages.deb. Perhaps I'm missing a driver or something? I was able to drive this equipment at 24bits 1600x1200 under RedHat linux, but am interested in runing Debian. Any ideas? Thx. Really? let's see: 1600X1200X3 bytes is 576 bytes, is appr. 5.49 Megs, and that with a 4mb card! OSDebian 1.3 Xserver Accelerated X v2.1 video Matrox Millenium (4mb) monitor viewsonic PT810 Maarten _ | Maarten Boekhold, Faculty of Electrical Engineering TU Delft, NL| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libshadow.a ?
Hi, Looking for libshadow.a. Does not seem to be in Debian 1.3 as I checked the Contents file. It was in the experimental shadow package in earlier versions. Can anybody tell me where it is? Thanks, Roger -- ~~ Roger Endo President, Warp 9 Technologies LLC SBnet, Internet for Santa Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805-961-0150 ~~ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: turning shadow on
My last experiences on that issue: You need to have X installed otherwise shadowconfig on will fail because it expects to modify an X configuration file. In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: : Hi, : : I've upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 w/o too much trouble. At that time I : did not turn shadow on. Now I would like to do it. Should I do a : shadowconfig on and cross my fingers or is there something further? : : I've installed almost all the stuff from stable. : : This should work fine. If you have not installed X yet, and intend to, you : will need to switch it off and then on again after the installation to get : the correct xdm for shadow. This has been fixed in the 3.3-3 version of X. : Luck, : Dwarf : -- : _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- : aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 : Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road : e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 : _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- : -- : TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] . : Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- Please always CC me when replying to posts on mailing lists. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO
boot=/dev/hda3 This should read boot=/dev/hda no? Debian's installation gets this wrong, listing the boot device as a partition on the disk, when you're supposed to use the whole disk. This has caused problems for me, until I noticed it and changed it back to /dev/hda. Perhaps I'm wrong, -- Pete Harlan pete at mymenus dot com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: first experience with defrag: have slight problem.
The C library on the rescue floppy only contains the functions that are used by the programs on the floppy itself. This is done to save space. Thus, it's problematical to run programs that weren't on the disk when it was built. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: radius
I've got 2 'boxed' systems to develop. One for multiple balanced modems because the frame relay costs are ugly in Maine. The other for wireless microwave links. Both are intended to provide Internet to win/mac/schmuckware workstations. I am planning to use bootable CD's on these. A motherboard with builtin IDE and enough RAM to eliminate swapping should be affordable. The way to develop these is to use an IDE drive with a boot floppy. The filesystem normally stays read-only except for making configuration changes. When it's ready, move it to a CD-R with the boot floppy image added. I can always put in a flash card for non-volatile storage. The overall idea is to make it cheap, reliable, and low power so it will run a while on a UPS. Modular has a nice sound, too. This may seem like an imitation of Cisco et. al., but a spare ethernet interface for a Cisco router probably costs more than $18.00 (NE2000). I think that developing along these lines provides more flexibility in the long run. Ftp, http, etc. usage patterns change and you don't want to tear the router/gateway apart because the webmaster demands an upgrade. On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:23:14 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your leased line, plug this all in and turn it on. This is what we will be working on Linux Router Project www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot of modems on a 56k line. Combining your data and terminal server is bad practice and a bad idea. True.. thats not what I'm doing though. Like I said, it's a pop.. everything goes back to the main network. If you also intend to do all routing from the box you are crazy. router/terminal server, ok but web/ftp/etc should be in a separate box. Right. But forwardonly DNS and a web *cache* (within limits of the cpu and memory) can run happily on the same box. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Books on Debian
W Paul Mills wrote: My start with Debian came about 6 months ago. I found dselect and the rest of the packaging system confusing. Frustrating at that time was man pages that said they were not up to date - read the docs. The doc files also said they were not up to date - read the man pages. Now that was very circular and not at all helpful. Someone totally new to linux would probably be even more confused. Often those new to linux do not even know how to find and view the documentation. A book would make a nice security blanket :-) I think that is a good point -I have started using Debian (after a unsuccessfull try with an old german S.U.S.E.-distribution) aprox. 1 month ago -there are still many essential thing, which I don´t undertand and which are not working by now. One of the first problems I solved was how to get some orientation in the widespread -filesystem tree and how to use man-pages, HOWTO´s and readme-files. A good basic book about the concepts of (Debian)-Linux is very helpfull during the first time -when I am an experienced user, I will maybe think, that this was useless, but from today´s point of view, I can only underline what you have said. -- Bye, Marc Saric Visit http://www.rat.de/marc_saric/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
more on scsi controllers
After the hints so far, it's clear that eata 's error messages have to do with using the same adresses as the second ide card (which is installed). However, those aren't the correct adressess. I actually have three scsi cards sitting here to choose from: 1) the nec card, which, on closer look, claims to be a Trantor T160. I find T1x8 refferences in the howto, but no T160. 2) a future domaine 1610, with TMX18XX chip (it really says XX). 3) an adaptec 1510, but it has a tiny external connector; we're still trying to find the cable. I can't figure out how to tell the first two where to look for the adress of the card. Also, i'm not clear on which drivers to use for the first two. Should I even have eata in my kernel? finally, which of these cards will have the best performance. rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO
From: Pete Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot=/dev/hda3 This should read boot=/dev/hda If you do this, you will over-write any boot manager you happen to have installed on the system. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
I was thinking that perhaps this might be a decent Java application: you could write essentially the same code to run locally in your Java-enabled kernel, and those with web sites that mirror debian packages could use the same code (with a few modifications) to run in Netscape across the net and find/display package info, so that you could run the system ON the FTP site ... Don't know how excited the sysadmins would be tho. Will I think this is a very good idea - imagine when Debian is ported to other hardware platforms and (dreaming maybe) other OS's - one JAVA application could handle the installation regardless of Hardware and OS. The only Kernel that would *have* to have Java support compiled in would be the one on the rescue disks. The system could install a different kernel that would not have JAVA support. What would *really* be nice would be a browser that had more capabilities than Lynx - yet still worked on a tty. Maybe provide FRAME support via a UI like that in QuarterDeck's (sp?) Manifest. The user with bare-minimum hardware could use Lynx - the user with SVGALIB support could use the new browser - someone with X could use Netscape or any other X-based browser. If all of the Debian Admin tools could be written in JAVA/CGI and put into HTML pages, this scenario would be pretty cool! Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Print to IP
Hello, How/where could I find info on printing to an IP printer? Thanx -- Greg. -- Greg Vence | Debian GNU Linux KH2EA/4 | Diamond 2000 (7npw 4cpw) [EMAIL PROTECTED]| There is time for what's important -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: decent Java application: you could write essentially the same code to run locally in your Java-enabled kernel, and those with web sites that I think this is a very good idea - imagine when Debian is ported to other hardware platforms and (dreaming maybe) other OS's - one JAVA application could handle the installation regardless of Hardware and OS. Wait: you've apparently missed the thread that I've been carrying on all day. The point of the whole idea was to provide a way for people to get information on and install packages. We discussed the idea that finding linux software can sometimes be difficult because we didn't know where to look and the fact that, while dpkg is a _GREAT_ tool, it doesn't provide much information and isn't very user-friendly. All I'm suggesting is a deselect-like, x-enabled friendly neighborhood package finder and installer. Keep in mind that at this point a remote java process (one _NOT_ running on your machine, but on the ftp server or someplace else) CAN'T access your hard drive in a meaningful installation way, as a security precaution. Locally, you could run it, but then you'd already have to have X installed. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ecl.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Prob Removing Latex pkg
On Jun 24, Mark Mabry wrote I've been upgrading to Debian 1.3 w/o problems except for the tetex upgrade. I've followed the instructions that tell me to first remove the tex packages and install the tetex ones. However, there is a problem when I try to remove the latex package. Apparently the latex.prerm script calls install-fmt-base. Well, I don't have or at least cannot locate install-fmt-base. (*I believe that is the exact name. I'm writing this from memory while at work.) Does anyone know a work-around/fix for this? Hi, ugly fix. Edit the prerm script and comment out the offending lines so that it won't complain anymore. Greetings, Christian -- Christian Meder, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the railroad to me ? I never go to see Where it ends. It fills a few hollows, And makes banks for the swallows, It sets the sand a-blowing, And the blackberries a-growing. (Henry David Thoreau) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO
Depends. Are you installing the LILO boot block in the MBR or the boot record of the partition? If you're not going the MBR route, the hda3 line is correct. I believe debian *always* installs LILO in the boot record and uses the 'mbr' program to write a new mbr (?? This is from memory - I'm not looking at the script) I personally never put LILO in the MBR cos OS/2 and Win95 view the MBR as their territory ... -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Pete Harlan wrote: : boot=/dev/hda3 : :This should read : : boot=/dev/hda : :no? Debian's installation gets this wrong, listing the boot device as :a partition on the disk, when you're supposed to use the whole disk. :This has caused problems for me, until I noticed it and changed it :back to /dev/hda. : :Perhaps I'm wrong, : :-- :Pete Harlan :pete at mymenus dot com : : :-- :TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] . :Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . : -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
I was thinking that perhaps this might be a decent Java application: you could write essentially the same code to run locally in your Java-enabled kernel, and those with web sites that mirror debian packages could use the same code (with a few modifications) to run in Netscape across the net and find/display package info, so that you could run the system ON the FTP site ... Don't know how excited the sysadmins would be tho. Will I think this is a very good idea - imagine when Debian is ported to other hardware platforms and (dreaming maybe) other OS's - one JAVA application could handle the installation regardless of Hardware and OS. The only Kernel that would *have* to have Java support compiled in would be the one on the rescue disks. The system could install a different kernel that would not have JAVA support. As far as I understand, even JAVA-enabled kernel still needs jdk to be installed (see JAVA-Linux HOWTO) and this is not acceptable for installaton disk I guess. Alex Y. What would *really* be nice would be a browser that had more capabilities than Lynx - yet still worked on a tty. Maybe provide FRAME support via a UI like that in QuarterDeck's (sp?) Manifest. The user with bare-minimum hardware could use Lynx - the user with SVGALIB support could use the new browser - someone with X could use Netscape or any other X-based browser. If all of the Debian Admin tools could be written in JAVA/CGI and put into HTML pages, this scenario would be pretty cool! Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network Design Voice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ | _ 7 ''' \() (O O) / \ \ +---oOO--(_)+ |\ __/ -- | Alexander Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || | http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | ( / +-oOO---+ \ / |__|__| ) /(_ || || | (___)ooO Ooo \___) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: more on scsi controllers
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: : :After the hints so far, it's clear that eata 's error messages have to :do with using the same adresses as the second ide card (which is :installed). However, those aren't the correct adressess. : :I actually have three scsi cards sitting here to choose from: : :1) the nec card, which, on closer look, claims to be a Trantor T160. I :find T1x8 refferences in the howto, but no T160. : :2) a future domaine 1610, with TMX18XX chip (it really says XX). Don't know about either of these :/ :3) an adaptec 1510, but it has a tiny external connector; we're still :trying to find the cable. I *do* know about these. Throw it very, very far. Adaptec makes great (IMHO) controolers these days, but this one sucks (as you can tell from the DB25 external connecter, I believe it is) I'd try 1) or 2) :) Somebody out there has to be using these things ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)
Will Lowe wrote: The point of the whole idea was to provide a way for people to get information on and install packages. We discussed the idea that finding linux software can sometimes be difficult because we didn't know where to look and the fact that, while dpkg is a _GREAT_ tool, it doesn't provide much information and isn't very user-friendly. That's what I initially advanced anyway. All I'm suggesting is a deselect-like, x-enabled friendly neighborhood package finder and installer. Right. I agree. This is doable and would be very nice to have. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What good is the default .alias file?
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:05:25 -0400 (EDT), Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel? It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing. If it was in the format: alias lsa=ls -a it would be useful. How is this any good? alias a alias alias loada 'source ~/.alias' alias loadalias loada alias log watchlog It is good because it contains csh/tcsh aliases, not bash aliases. A slightly different beast. Ah. Next question.why is it not named .csh_alias ? -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
