Re: 06032921167-0001@T-Online.De

1997-09-17 Thread Bruce Perens
Me too. Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete
Templin).

By the way, only a broken mail system would bounce the message to you.
There's stuff in the RFCs about using the envelope from for errors
that this mail delivery agent must be ignoring.

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Re: locales

1997-09-17 Thread Andy Dougherty
On 16 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote:

 Since no one else has responded to this, I figure I'll tell you my
 solution, which is brain dead to say the least.  When I run perl, it
 says:
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
 LC_CTYPE LC_COLLATE 
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LC_CTYPE = (unset),
 LC_COLLATE = (unset),
 LANG = us
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.
 
 Since everything is unset except for LANG, I tried unsetting LANG
 too. (In tcsh it's unsetenv LANG.)  That seems to make it stop
 complaining.
 
 Hopefully someone with a real suggestion will answer too.

Your solution is just fine.  Does the us locale differ from the default
C locale, and if so, are those differences important to you?
(Alternatively, you can ask the question Why did I set LANG=us in the
first place?)  I don't have a us locale in /usr/lib/locale so I can't
check for sure, but I'd be very suprised if the us locale differed in
any useful significant way from the default C locale.

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cygwin32-17.1 source on Official CD 2

1997-09-17 Thread David R Baker
Hi,

While looking for something else, I noticed the cygwin32-17.1 sources
on the source Official CD.  There seems to be no binary package.
The source files are in the new source file format (unlike 1.2.10).
There were binary packages in 1.2.  What is the status of this stuff?
Is the presence of the source an error?  Or the absence of the binary.

Errors are OK, just want to know what is the case.

Thanks.


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Re: /etc/X11/XF86Config for Trident tgui9440

1997-09-17 Thread kestrel
On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 Would someone who's using the above card at 800x600 (or better) please
 forward a copy of their configuration file to me?  I'd appreciate it
 deeply.  TIA
 -- 
you'll find mine included, I've got it set up to default to 800x600 with
16bpp and no acceleration, can't seem to get accelerated to work, but that
may be partially my monitor.

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# File generated by xf86config.

#
# Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
# 

FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

# For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be
# used to set a search path for the modules.  This is currently supported
# for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x.  The default path is shown
# here.

ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules

EndSection

# **
# Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.  Dynamically loadable
# modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x
# and NetBSD 1.x.  Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used
# only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers.
# **
#
# Section Module
#
# This loads the module for the Joystick driver
#
Load pex.5.so
Load xie.so
# Load xf86Jstk.so
# 
# EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section ServerFlags

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#DontZoom

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,

Re: xfishtank

1997-09-17 Thread Rob MacWilliams
Rick Hawkins writes:
  
  rob writes,
   Rick Hawkins writes:
  
 Has anyone else had a problem with this?  It utterly hangs X, beyond 
 restarting X.  I can still telnet in, but halting the xdm daemon  
   restarting 
 isn't enough to recover the keyboard.  For that matter, it requires an 
   actual 
 power down (but there are some strange hardware problems on this beast).
  
 rick
  
  
   I'm having a similar problem, but I think it's being caused by
   Netscape Communicator 4.02b7.  I'm running X 3.3.  I'm going to put a
   reboot/shutdown command on the menu, because that seems to stay
   alive.  Maybe the Tcl/Tk script that wrapped shutdown would be another
   alternative.
  
  I've never had netscape installed; there's something beyond this.  But if 
  you 
  can still use either mouse or keys, you're a step ahead of me :)
  
The keyboard dies, but the PS/2 mouse still works.  If I had a clue
what package is causing this, I'd file a bug report.  At first I
thought it might be a temperature issue, P5-120 laptop, but now I'm
not sure.  Who knows, I'm sure out of my depth here :-)

Later

Rob



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Re: cygwin32-17.1 source on Official CD 2

1997-09-17 Thread Jim Pick

 While looking for something else, I noticed the cygwin32-17.1 sources
 on the source Official CD.  There seems to be no binary package.
 The source files are in the new source file format (unlike 1.2.10).
 There were binary packages in 1.2.  What is the status of this stuff?
 Is the presence of the source an error?  Or the absence of the binary.

There are binary .deb files - they just have a different name:

hamm/hamm/binary-i386/devel/win32libs_17.1-1.deb
hamm/hamm/binary-i386/devel/win32gcc_17.1-1.deb
hamm/hamm/binary-i386/devel/win32binutils_17.1-1.deb

Strangely, they don't seem to be in 'bo' for some reason.

I'm working on packaging beta 18 - but don't expect it for at least
2 weeks.  Also, beta 19 is due to arrive soon.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Problem with serial port?

1997-09-17 Thread Bob
I have just installed Debian version 1.3 on my computer.  When I attempt
to send 'at' commands to my modem through minicom there is a long delay of
about 45 seconds before what I typed appears on the screen and than
another 30 seconds before the modem responds.  My modem is connected to
what would be COM1 under DOS. Under Linux this is /dev/ttyS0 which is what
I am using.  As an example if I type ATZ in minicom the command will not
echo for approx 45 seconds.  The modem's response of OK takes another 30
seconds or so to appear.  This same behavior occurs no matter what
commands I issue to the modem.  Before installing Debian I used Slackware
and I was able to use this same hardware combination without any problems.

I switched my modem to /dev/ttyS1  (COM2) and it works normally.

I would appreciate any input as to what I can check to be able to get my
modem to work on /dev/ttyS0 as it did when I had Slackware running. Also,
COM1 works normally under WIN95. This tells me that the com port hardware
is working properly. I suspect that this is a configuration issue but I am
not sure where to look.

My modem is a USR Sportster and the com ports are both 16550A UART's. 
The kernel version is 2.0.29. I even recompiled the kernel with serial
support built in as opposed to serial being a module as it is when first
installing a new Debian system.

Thanks in advance for any help anyone may be able to give me.

Bob



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Re: cygwin32-17.1 source on Official CD 2

1997-09-17 Thread David R Baker
Hi,

Thanks for the reply.  I looked at www,debian.org and the package
description says depends on lic5, not libc6.  I'm running essentially
pure stable.  Should the binaries using libc5 from hamm be safe with
1.3.1?

Thanks.


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Re: Problem with serial port?

1997-09-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Bob wrote:

 I have just installed Debian version 1.3 on my computer.  When I attempt
 to send 'at' commands to my modem through minicom there is a long delay of
 about 45 seconds before what I typed appears on the screen and than
 another 30 seconds before the modem responds.  My modem is connected to
 what would be COM1 under DOS. Under Linux this is /dev/ttyS0 which is what
 I am using.  As an example if I type ATZ in minicom the command will not
 echo for approx 45 seconds.  The modem's response of OK takes another 30
 seconds or so to appear.  This same behavior occurs no matter what
 commands I issue to the modem.  Before installing Debian I used Slackware
 and I was able to use this same hardware combination without any problems.
 
 I switched my modem to /dev/ttyS1  (COM2) and it works normally.
 

Sounds like you have something else running on com1. If you did a
standard installation you probably installed gpm. This package expects
to find a mouse on com1. 

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: cygwin32-17.1 source on Official CD 2

1997-09-17 Thread Jim Pick

 Hi,
 
 Thanks for the reply.  I looked at www,debian.org and the package
 description says depends on lic5, not libc6.  I'm running essentially
 pure stable.  Should the binaries using libc5 from hamm be safe with
 1.3.1?

There shouldn't really be a problem.

On the other hand, I don't really know why you'd want to use a cross
compiler for beta 17.1.  That would imply that you want to use beta17.1
as your target environment on Win95/NT.  The cygwin environment is
under heavy development, and you will find that old releases leave out
all sorts of essential features that are in the newer releases.

Beta 18 is much, much better.  Beta 19 will be even better still.

Someday, Windows NT will be a somewhat decent GNU/Unix environment.  Of
course, Linux will be 10x better.  :-)

Cheers,

 - Jim




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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-17 Thread Richard L Shepherd
On 12 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote:

 The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as
 recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100.  Anyone have any
 thoughts on those?

I have the Intel EtherExpress 100 Pro, which is different from the
regular one (requires a driver that is not currently distributed with
Debian) and it goes fantastic.  I tried it out on our Cisco Catalyst 5000
switch and got up to 90Mb transfers with a 100MB file.  Even though the
driver I have is only in alpha, we use it in production (on a major
nameserver) and it has never put a foot wrong.

8---8
Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: Problem with serial port?

1997-09-17 Thread Bruce Perens
The other possibility would be that the interrupt vector for the com
port isn't configured correctly in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial.

Bruce
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ipx via ppp.

1997-09-17 Thread R. Chris Ross
I have compiled my kernel with ipx support at home.  It was
intended that I connect via ppp to our novel server at work.  When I put
any of the ipx related commands into the /etc/ppp/option file I get a
message that the command is no good.  They are out of the pppd man page.
Does Debian pppd support ipx or do I need to compile it on my own?   


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Re: re-attaching a terminal to a disconnected process

1997-09-17 Thread Frank Sergeant
Thanks (to Thomas and Greg) for the suggestions to use
screen.  I'll look into it.


I wrote:
 Is there a way to tell the process to keep running even if
 its terminal is disconnected, and then later re-attach a
 terminal to it, [...]


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libc6-dev and clisp

1997-09-17 Thread Will Lowe
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I'm recompiling clisp for libc6.  Have the standard /usr/include/* header
files changed significantly from libc5?  I'm getting all sorts of
conflicting types errors where a clispfile.c includes a /usr/include/.h
file.  For some reason configure isn't resolving these (I'd assume it's
because configure predates libc6). 
Is the recommended action in this case to modify the source to
match the libc6-dev .h files?


Will

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Dialing my ISP

1997-09-17 Thread Steve Koop
Hi There:

I'm A user to Linux and have problem hooking up to my ISP.

I have installed Debian 1.3.1 several times now second time I installed Debian I got on line fine. The next time I installed it,  because I forgot to install the drive for my network card so done that, and it not work. The only thing different was that I installed the network drive and choose at the end,  Choose which primary network interface. chosen ethernet  instead of PPP.

When I Do # pon,,

It dials and the other modem answers and the when I ping a site on the Internet, nothing happens.

Have read the ppp, serial, and net3, howto's..

Does any body have some suggestions in this mater?
Much appreciated.





Thanks

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Re: SB AWE 64 versus Soft. Syns. for making midi... Also, midi keybo

1997-09-17 Thread Britton

  I figure that maybe I can spend the money on a midi-compatable
  keyboard instead. Anyone with exp. on using one of those under
  Linux? I saw a keyboard for about $170 at Electronic Boutique, which
  was basically one devoted to Midi, without any samples built in. That 
  seems to be the cheapest I can find which lets you connect it to a 
  computer?
 
 If you want to be really cool, buy a keyboard with weighted keys (feeling
 like a piano). Takes about $1000 :(. Seek a Keyboard with big keys (not the
 baby ones), and with touch sensitive keys. A pedal is nice, as are
 modulation and pitch bend function. You don't need any samples or demo songs
 (burb), but a midi connection. Good keyboards have midi anyway.

When I talked to my local dealer (which apparently is the only way Roland
sells things?) they said $1500 for weighted key model.  Of course it had
tons of sounds and other functions (many of which I wouldn't really know
how to do in software).  Can you even get weighted keys without all this
extra stuff?  What model was it you saw that went for only $1000?  It
seems the like to reserve this feature for their expensive models, which I
think at this point is a remarkably bad strategy.  Mayby it's time for a
new manufacturer to enter the scene.

The Roland PC-200 mkII is a pretty good MIDI keyboard for use with
computers.  It has bend/modulate, velocity sensitive keys, a connection
for a pedal, and some other functions.  The bad thing is it's keys are
compact and not weighted.  If you arn't a pianist, spending ~$800 more for
full size weighted keys might not be worth it.

 Marcus
 who also seeks a cheap midi keyboard :)

I get the feeling this could be a tough search.  Let me know if you see
anything that looks good.

 
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idea for newbies

1997-09-17 Thread George Bonser
Just a little tip that I picked up from an old timer.

As you learn new things, enter the information into a regular text file, I use
a file called infofile.  Example:

/bin/echo pppstats displays ppp useage statistics infofile

Then when you want to remember something that you entered concerning ppp
statistics, you do something like:

grep ppp infofile| grep statistics

It saves a lot of time and if you are careful about the words you use, it
becomes easy enough to at least point you to the proper manpage for further
info.


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Re: 06032921167-0001@T-Online.De

1997-09-17 Thread Dieter Rohlfing
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
 
 I am getting bounced back messages every time I post to debian-user.
 The bounced message says that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an
 unknow user.
 
 Is it just me or everybody is having this problem?

I've the same problem since yesterday.

Dieter


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Re: Dialing my ISP

1997-09-17 Thread Joost_Kooij


On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Steve Koop wrote:

 I'm A user to Linux and have problem hooking up to my ISP.
 
 When I Do # pon,,
 It dials and the other modem answers and the when I ping a site on the 
 Internet, nothing happens.
 
 Have read the ppp, serial, and net3, howto's..
 
 Does any body have some suggestions in this mater?

Go for the package dunc. It takes care of most of the configuration for 
you. You'll only have to change the config files it generates slightly, 
but it does most things for you that you might otherwise forget.  

 Much appreciated.

Have fun,


Joost


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Re: workman_1.3a-5 uploaded to master

1997-09-17 Thread Volker Ossenkopf
I have uploaded a new version of the workman package to master.
It adjusts the postinst file to better meet the Debian policy.

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Maintainer: Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 workman- Graphical tool for playing audio CDs on a CD-ROM drive.
Changes: 
 workman (1.3a-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Included abort handling in postinst
Files: 
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 8d2a76241f42c0aa49c5cd7b5b9210bc 5911 sound extra
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Re: xvmount_3.6-4 uploaded to master

1997-09-17 Thread Volker Ossenkopf
I have uploaded a new version of the xvmount package to master.
It adjusts the postinst script to better meet the Debian policy.

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 xvmount- Small graphical utility for mounting devices by users.
Changes: 
 xvmount (3.6-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Included abort handling in postinst
   * Removed outdated dependency on elf-x11r6lib
   * New maintainer address
Files: 
 7685aa77559d308a70ba49cae3f745c5 539 x11 extra xvmount_3.6-4.dsc
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Re: 06032921167-0001@T-Online.De

1997-09-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Bruce Perens writes:
 Me too. Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete
 Templin).
 
 By the way, only a broken mail system would bounce the message to you.
 There's stuff in the RFCs about using the envelope from for errors
 that this mail delivery agent must be ignoring.

Looking at the address it is the german telephone company and its
internet service - so I'm sure it *is* a broken mail system.

Regards

Joey

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Re: Debian ppp server how-to?

1997-09-17 Thread dada
Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
 
 Thanks for using NetForward!
 http://www.netforward.com
 v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
 
 dada wrote:
 
  Is there any how-to to setup an ppp server under Debian?
 
  I need detailled information becouse I'm newie :-) and I want set up one
  ppp server at my home.
 
  o  get/install mgetty package

it's in my Debian 1.3.1. I installed. Need do anymore?

 
  o  get/install ppp package
 
  o  make sure kernel has ppp support, if it doesn't then get kernel
 source and recompile with ppp support

I have installed ppp pakage before, to connect internet


 
  o  edit /etc/mgetty/login.config
 find the line starting with '/AutoPPP/' and modify it so that it
 looks something like this:
 
 /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth +pap login modem :Y.Y.Y.Y
 
  where Y.Y.Y.Y is what you want the caller's IP address to be.
 
   o  add entry in /etc/inittab for like this:
 
 S0:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -s 38400 /dev/ttyS0
 
  (if the modem is on your first serial port)
 
o  as root run 'kill -HUP 1'
 
o  enjoy!


I do all you say...but I don't enjoy...It don't work.

Maybe I'm newie, can help me?


 
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Re: Dialing my ISP

1997-09-17 Thread Joost_Kooij

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Joost_Kooij wrote:

  When I Do # pon,,
  It dials and the other modem answers and the when I ping a site on the
  Internet, nothing happens. 
..

  Does any body have some suggestions in this mater?

Try: `pon;plog -f` (or `pon;tail -f /var/log/ppp.log`)
It will show you what happens during dialling and ppp negotiating. 
If you can't fix it and retrying the setup with dunc won't help either, 
post the output of plog.

 Go for the package dunc. It takes care of most of the configuration for 
 you. You'll only have to change the config files it generates slightly, 
 but it does most things for you that you might otherwise forget.  
..
 
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HELP: problems compiling wine

1997-09-17 Thread Lazaro Salem
Hi,
I would appreciate any hint to work around this error I get when trying 
to compile wine (970828). configure and make depend worked ok, but when 
trying: 

mafalda# make
  [snip...]
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/wine970824/miscemu'
gcc -o wine controls/controls.o files/files.o graphics/graphics.o
graphics/metafiledrv/metafiledrv.o graphics/x11drv/x11drv.o ipc/ipc.o
loader/loader.o memory/memory.o misc/misc.o msdos/msdos.o
multimedia/multimedia.o objects/objects.o resources/resources.o
scheduler/scheduler.o win32/win32.o windows/windows.o
debugger/debugger.o graphics/win16drv/win16drv.o if1632/if1632.o
miscemu/miscemu.o   -lXpm -lXext -lX11  -lm
ld: cannot open -lXpm: No such file or directory
make: *** [wine] Error 1

However libXpm is on the system. Here is a complete listing of the
libraries 
under X11R6: 

mafalda# ls -l 

total 5395
drwxr-xr-x   6 root root 2048 Sep 16 06:15 .
drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 1024 Sep 12 00:28 ..
-r--r--r--   1 root root  703 Apr 29 20:56 .text_extras_menu
-r--r--r--   1 root root 2409 Apr 29 20:56 .textswrc
-r--r--r--   1 root root  444 Apr 29 20:56 .ttyswrc
drwxr-xr-x  19 root root 1024 Sep 15 23:28 X11
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Sep 12 00:29 Xaw95
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Sep 12 00:29 help
-rw-r--r--   1 root root65592 Jun 20 16:49 libFS.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep 15 23:28 libICE.so -
libICE.so.6.3
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep  6 17:52 libICE.so.6 -
libICE.so.6.3
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root74656 Jun 20 16:52 libICE.so.6.3
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   14 Sep 12 00:26 libMrm.so.0 -
libMrm.so.0.76
-rw-r--r--   1 root root58928 Feb  7  1997 libMrm.so.0.76
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   14 Sep 15 23:28 libPEX5.so -
libPEX5.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   14 Sep  6 17:47 libPEX5.so.6 -
libPEX5.so.6.0
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   233456 Jun 20 16:52 libPEX5.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   12 Sep 15 23:28 libSM.so -
libSM.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   12 Sep  6 17:47 libSM.so.6 -
libSM.so.6.0
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root30580 Jun 20 16:52 libSM.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep 15 23:28 libX11.so -
libX11.so.6.1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep  6 17:47 libX11.so.6 -
libX11.so.6.1
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   657676 Jun 20 16:52 libX11.so.6.1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep 15 23:28 libXIE.so -
libXIE.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep  6 17:47 libXIE.so.6 -
libXIE.so.6.0
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root40836 Jun 20 16:52 libXIE.so.6.0
-rw-r--r--   1 root root11440 Jun 20 16:49 libXau.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep 15 23:28 libXaw.so -
libXaw.so.6.1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep  6 17:47 libXaw.so.6 -
libXaw.so.6.1
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   223112 Jun 20 16:52 libXaw.so.6.1
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   355432 Feb 13  1997 libXaw95.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 Sep 12 00:29 libXaw95.so -
libXaw95.so.6.1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 Sep 12 00:29 libXaw95.so.6 -
libXaw95.so.6.1
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   273096 Feb 13  1997 libXaw95.so.6.1
-rw-r--r--   1 root root37174 Jun 20 16:49 libXdmcp.a
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 3906 Jun 20 16:49 libXdpms.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   14 Sep 15 23:28 libXext.so -
libXext.so.6.3
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   14 Sep  6 17:52 libXext.so.6 -
libXext.so.6.3
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root38632 Jun 20 16:52 libXext.so.6.3
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   12 Sep 15 23:28 libXi.so -
libXi.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   12 Sep  6 17:47 libXi.so.6 -
libXi.so.6.0
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root26080 Jun 20 16:52 libXi.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep 12 00:26 libXm.so.0 -
libXm.so.0.76
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   850432 Feb  7  1997 libXm.so.0.76
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep 15 23:28 libXmu.so -
libXmu.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep  6 17:47 libXmu.so.6 -
libXmu.so.6.0
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root67856 Jun 20 16:52 libXmu.so.6.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   12 Sep 15 23:28 libXp.so -
libXp.so.6.2
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   12 Sep  6 17:52 libXp.so.6 -
libXp.so.6.2
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root22748 Jun 20 16:52 libXp.so.6.2
-rw-r--r--   1 root root73798 Feb  3  1997 libXpm.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep 16 06:15 libXpm.so -
libXpm.so.4.7
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Sep  8 23:59 libXpm.so.4 -
libXpm.so.4.7
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root48772 Feb  3  1997 libXpm.so.4.7
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 5220 Jun 20 16:49 libXss.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   12 Sep 15 23:28 libXt.so -
libXt.so.6.0

Re: [DEBIAN] Standardization?

1997-09-17 Thread David
It would be so cool if we all used linux insted of debian or redhat.
I changed from redhat to deb because I percieved that future upgrades
would be smoother. I think that was time I could better have spent doing
something else. But for the record I'm glad I spent it.

Binary Bar - Australia's first free access internet bar/cafe/gallery.
243 Brunswick Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, Australia. 12:00pm - 11:00pm
http://www.binary.net.au

On 16 Sep 1997, Kai Grossjohann wrote:

  On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, George Bonser said:
 
   George One of the points raised was that even though there is a
   George filesystem standard, there is still too much leeway in that
   George some things like system initialization files and how they
   George are arrainged can differ widely from one distribution to the
   George next.  It was noted that debian does its /etc/rc.*
   George completely different than RedHat does as an example.
 
 AFAIK RedHat uses linuxconfig or somesuch package which takes over the
 booting process (ie the /etc/rc* files).  But linuxconfig can be told
 not to do that.
 
 So we can attack this problem right there -- convince the linuxconfig
 people not to use their own /etc/rc* scheme, and all will be fine.
 For this problem.
 
 Have I been talking foolish things?
 
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Re: ipx via ppp.

1997-09-17 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi,


R. Chris Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:   I have compiled my kernel with ipx support at home.  It was
: intended that I connect via ppp to our novel server at work.  When I put
: any of the ipx related commands into the /etc/ppp/option file I get a
: message that the command is no good.  They are out of the pppd man page.
: Does Debian pppd support ipx or do I need to compile it on my own?   

I had this problem too. To solve it you have to recompile the ppp package
with IPX_CHANGE=1. This variable is defined in the Makefile. The ppp
package has this disabled by default.

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Re: Debian ppp server how-to?

1997-09-17 Thread Carey Evans
dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 I do all you say...but I don't enjoy...It don't work.
 
 Maybe I'm newie, can help me?

Does your phone line ring?  Does the modem notice (AA light flashes;
RING gets printed if you're in minicom)?  Does the modem itself answer
(it shouldn't)?  Does mgetty notice (check the log files in
/var/log/mgetty/)?  Does mgetty answer?  Does pppd get started?  Can
you (or anyone) dial in and get a normal terminal login?

Is the modem set up correctly?  Try something like:

ATF
ATW0
ATZ

in minicom, to set and save the factory defaults.

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Bo updates

1997-09-17 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi,

I am wondering when all those useful packages in bo-updates will be merged
into bo. I've seeing them for quite a while but I don't want to install
in our production servers (running 1.3.1) anything that is untested.

Debian 1.3.1 was released more than one month ago and I haven't seen any
changes or updates to it. Is everything so perfect that updates aren't
needed? Or the updates have come but I haven't seen them?

Thanks,

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Re: HELP: problems compiling wine

1997-09-17 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:
 
  gcc -o wine controls/controls.o files/files.o graphics/graphics.o
  graphics/metafiledrv/metafiledrv.o graphics/x11drv/x11drv.o ipc/ipc.o
  loader/loader.o memory/memory.o misc/misc.o msdos/msdos.o
  multimedia/multimedia.o objects/objects.o resources/resources.o
  scheduler/scheduler.o win32/win32.o windows/windows.o
  debugger/debugger.o graphics/win16drv/win16drv.o if1632/if1632.o
  miscemu/miscemu.o   -lXpm -lXext -lX11  -lm
  ld: cannot open -lXpm: No such file or directory
  make: *** [wine] Error 1
  
  However libXpm is on the system. 

Try adding `-L /usr/X11R6/lib' to the command line, so that gcc knows where
to look for libXpm.  I think that, by default, it only looks in /lib
and in /usr/lib.

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reading mail with gnus

1997-09-17 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

I'm trying to set gnus to manage email with split methods. 
Using XEmacs I was able to configure the methods but I
couldn't find how to have the e-mails shown in the screen. 
Is there some tutorial/howto to do this? Can someone help me
with a step-by-step guide? 
Thanks,

[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21


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install new kernel 2.0.30 ??

1997-09-17 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

I have installed a package kernel-image-2.0.30deb to upgrade 
from 2.0.27. I used dpkg -i packname.deb. All went well. After a 
reboot, the system still says it has the old kernel (uname -r).

Should I say switchkernel or something ??

Regards,
Marc
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Re: install new kernel 2.0.30 ??

1997-09-17 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Marc Fleureck wrote:

 I have installed a package kernel-image-2.0.30deb to upgrade 
 from 2.0.27. I used dpkg -i packname.deb. All went well. After a 
 reboot, the system still says it has the old kernel (uname -r).

Did you run lilo?

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Re: Debian ppp server how-to?

1997-09-17 Thread dada
Carey Evans wrote:
 
 dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [snip]
 
  I do all you say...but I don't enjoy...It don't work.
 
  Maybe I'm newie, can help me?
 
 Does your phone line ring?  Does the modem notice (AA light flashes;
 RING gets printed if you're in minicom)?  Does the modem itself answer
 (it shouldn't)?  Does mgetty notice (check the log files in
 /var/log/mgetty/)?  Does mgetty answer?  Does pppd get started? 

Yes...my modem works fine...i use linux to connecting to internet.

I think that mgetyy answerbut it return me an TIO errorwhat's
that error?

When an user intent log in, the modem answer but then hang and
disconnect...thus nobody can login.


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Netscape 4.03 for Linux is out!

1997-09-17 Thread Brian K Servis

Hi all,

Just thought you would like to know, Netscape 4.03 english version is
out for Linux.  It comes in three forms: standard, professional and 
just the stand alone browser with now news/mail/composer/etc.

ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.03/shipping/english/unix/linux20/

  base_install/ Fri Sep  5 23:46:00 1997 Directory
  navigator_standalone/ Tue Sep  9 18:13:00 1997 Directory
  professional_edition/ Tue Sep 16 19:31:00 1997 Directory

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Re: Netscape 4.03 for Linux is out!

1997-09-17 Thread Lawrence
so, is the netscape.deb up-to-date:)

Brian K Servis wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just thought you would like to know, Netscape 4.03 english version is
 out for Linux.  It comes in three forms: standard, professional and
 just the stand alone browser with now news/mail/composer/etc.
 
 ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.03/shipping/english/unix/linux20/
 
   base_install/ Fri Sep  5 23:46:00 1997 Directory
   navigator_standalone/ Tue Sep  9 18:13:00 1997 Directory
   professional_edition/ Tue Sep 16 19:31:00 1997 Directory
 
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Re: Debian ppp server how-to?

1997-09-17 Thread dada
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sep 12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
  On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, dada wrote:
 
   Is there any how-to to setup an ppp server under Debian?
  
   I need detailled information becouse I'm newie :-) and I want set up one
   ppp server at my home.
  
   Regards.
Depending how many users you want to server try checking out
  Portslave at http://homepage.cistron.nl/~miquels/radius/  I found it to be
  an excellent program and fairly self-documenting.  We're using it as a
  temp solution until PRI prices drop here in BC Canada and we order our
  PM3's.
 
 As some folks here know, I have a fairly complete page for either
 mgetty or portslave setup. http://www.buoy.com/isp
 


Hi..Tim. Yes I used information that is in your home page...but don't
work to me.

I don't compile nothingi only install mgetty pakage (.deb). Then
modific my inittab and do all you say from here.

what can i do?


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Re: Netscape 4.03 for Linux is out!

1997-09-17 Thread Paul Seelig
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Brian K Servis wrote:
 
 Just thought you would like to know, Netscape 4.03 english version is
 out for Linux.  It comes in three forms: standard, professional and 
 just the stand alone browser with now news/mail/composer/etc.
 
Thanks for the information. The release has been since quite a while
now and in the meantime i already deinstalled it. Can you imagine that
the standalone version needs more resources than the already bloated
3.0x version containing all that news/mail crap!? Sigh, i'll happily
stick to the older version! 
Cheers, P. *8^)
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Re: Netscape 4.03 for Linux is out!

1997-09-17 Thread Dieter Rohlfing
Brian K Servis wrote:
 
 It comes in three forms: standard, professional and
 just the stand alone browser with now news/mail/composer/etc.

What are the differences between these three forms?

Dieter


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Re: Netscape 4.03 for Linux is out!

1997-09-17 Thread Glenn Amerine
 Paul == Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul Thanks for the information. The release has been since quite
Paul a while now and in the meantime i already deinstalled
Paul it. Can you imagine that the standalone version needs more
Paul resources than the already bloated 3.0x version containing
Paul all that news/mail crap!? Sigh, i'll happily stick to the
Paul older version!

Maybe Netscape should be pronounced the Godzilla that ate my
computer instead of Mozilla. ;-}

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graphics accelarator cards ?

1997-09-17 Thread Marc Fleureck
Does somebody know what cards are compatible and give good 
performance ? Is e.g. Matrox a good choice (say Matrox Mystique or 
Matrox Millenium) ? What's the difference between Matrox Mystique and 
Matrox Mystique ii ?

Regards,
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Re: HELP: problems compiling wine

1997-09-17 Thread Will Lowe
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Lazaro Salem wrote:

 Hi,
 I would appreciate any hint to work around this error I get when trying 

 gcc -o wine controls/controls.o files/files.o graphics/graphics.o
 graphics/metafiledrv/metafiledrv.o graphics/x11drv/x11drv.o ipc/ipc.o
 loader/loader.o memory/memory.o misc/misc.o msdos/msdos.o
 multimedia/multimedia.o objects/objects.o resources/resources.o
 scheduler/scheduler.o win32/win32.o windows/windows.o
 debugger/debugger.o graphics/win16drv/win16drv.o if1632/if1632.o
 miscemu/miscemu.o   -lXpm -lXext -lX11  -lm

try throwing a -L/usr/X11R6/lib in before any of the -l* directives.

Will

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Re: install new kernel 2.0.30 ??

1997-09-17 Thread Joost_Kooij


On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

 On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Marc Fleureck wrote:
 
  I have installed a package kernel-image-2.0.30deb to upgrade 
  from 2.0.27. I used dpkg -i packname.deb. All went well. After a 
  reboot, the system still says it has the old kernel (uname -r).
 
 Did you run lilo?

And did you check /etc/lilo.conf before you ran lilo?


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Re: install new kernel 2.0.30 ??

1997-09-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Installing a kernel image package just puts a kernel image in
 boot,  symlinks to /vmlinuz, and offers t run Lilo.

Whether you get the new version on next bootup depends on
 whether your bootup process is aware that you upgraded. If you use
 LILO, did you (after checking /etc/lilo.conf) run lilo again? If you
 use loadlin, did you update the image that loadlin looks at? If you
 use a floppy to boot, did you update the image on the floppy?

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Debian 1.2 archive?

1997-09-17 Thread Mike Miller
Is Debian 1.2 available by ftp anywhere?  

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top doesn't understand multiple processors

1997-09-17 Thread Brian White
When running top on my 2 cpu machine, I get some interesting states:

   12:12pm  up 18:03h,  5 users,  load average: 1.52, 0.76, 0.49
  65 processes: 61 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
  CPU states: 90.2% user, 107.5% system,  0.9% nice, 0.0% idle
  Mem:  128044K av, 110520K used,  17524K free,  37088K shrd,  42576K buff
  Swap: 129020K av,  0K used, 129020K free 30244K cached

The total is approximately 200%, which makes sense.  Is there anything
to be done about this?

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Many questions (mostly Network)

1997-09-17 Thread Mike Patterson

1) I have a rather strange setup, and I'm confused on how to implement it. 
   It looks something like this:

   |---|
~~~| Gateway   ||---[A Machine]
   |---||
|   |---[A Machine]
   |---||
   | Fileserv  ||---[A Machine]
   |---||
|  
|---[A Machine]


  The gateway is given to me by my ISP, and it has a 10baseT connection that 
  I can hook to one machine. So, the plan is that I'm going to hook it to my
  fileserver, and use it as a gateway to the gateway. This way I can use IP
  masquerading to allow all of the machiens (with varying OSs) to access the
  net. 

  The machines are all hooked in with the Fileserver using Thin BNC. 

  The Fileserver is running Linux.

  My idea is to have two network cards in Fileserv, one using Thin BNC and
  the other using 10baseT. I've noticed that the driver for NE-2000 compatible
  cards only looks for cards that have io addresses that I mention. 

  So my questions are:
* Can I have two ne-2000 compatible cards in the same system?
* assuming the gateway can pump data extremely fast, will I be 
  losing a ton of permformance by going from 10baseT to thin BNC? 
  In other words, should I switch my whole system to 10BaseT instead?
  (Downloads are VIA satellite... That can be fast.) 
* Are there any serious flaws in this plan I'm not seeing? 

--

2) I'm running SAMBA on my fileserver (same setup as above). On it, I have 
   a public directory (both in SAMBA terms and UNIX). However, when someone
   attempts to write a file, sometimes it doesn't allow it. Can someone tell
   me what has to be done to make a share completely public, so that I can 
   step through and see where my permissions are bad? Generally, my solution
   is to do a chmod a+rw --recursive on the directory occsaionally. It
   sometimes fixes it.

--

3) Ok, now let's say one of the A Machines is a Linux box that uses PPP to 
   hook into a secure site (behind a firewall). Let's say (oh, for example)
   that everything behind the firewall is 15.19.*.*, and the machine is 
   assigned an address for PPP that is in th 15.19 domain. What this machine
   would want to do is communicate with the PPP line for everything behind the
   firewall, and communicate with the fileserver/gateway for everything else--
   I assume requiring it to look like a diffrent IP number for each (remember,
   the Server/Gateway will be using masquerading). So the question is, how 
   can I do this and ensure that people on other machines in the network can't
   get to the 15.19 domain? Assume that I'm the only one that can log onto the
   Linux System I just described... (whew!)

---

4) I can't for the life of me figure out what the startup files are defined as
   or where they are defined (say, .login and .startup.x11 from my old dec 
   days)

---
Well, that should do it for now. Thanks for reading this far, and even more 
thanks for any answers I get.

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'tell' is missing from libc6

1997-09-17 Thread Brian White
It appears the tell(path) command is missing from libc6.  What should
I be using instead?

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Incoming PPP question - subnetting

1997-09-17 Thread Kevin Traas
 I'm having a problem configuring dialin PPP access on my system.  (Debian
1.3.1, PPPD 2.2 pl0)

I've allocated a subnet of addresses to the incoming lines and tried setting
the subnet mask in /etc/ppp/options to netmask 255.255.255.224; however,
my incoming clients have netmasks of 255.255.255.0.  Could this be a problem
with the client, or is it the server?

Anyone else doing this?

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Re: reading mail with gnus

1997-09-17 Thread Steve Witt
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
   I'm trying to set gnus to manage email with split methods. 
   Using XEmacs I was able to configure the methods but I
 couldn't find how to have the e-mails shown in the screen. 
   Is there some tutorial/howto to do this? Can someone help me
 with a step-by-step guide? 
   Thanks,
 

There are a couple of sources of info about Gnus.  First, there should be
an info file in your emacs info system.  So Help, Browse Manuals
Gnus (from emacs -- you'll have to translate into Xemacs) would get you
to the Gnus manual.  Second, there is a web site http://www.gnus.org
that is the home page for Gnus in which there is an html manual, FAQ,
mailing list info, etc., etc.

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Re: Many questions (mostly Network)

1997-09-17 Thread Dima
Mike Patterson wrote:
  
... 
So my questions are:
  * Can I have two ne-2000 compatible cards in the same system?

You can stop other drivers from probing i/o ports and tell them which
port to use as well, so it doesn't have to be 2 ne2k's -- other cards
will do, too.  Some ne2k's have to be initially set up using DOS 
software, btw.

  * assuming the gateway can pump data extremely fast, will I be 
losing a ton of permformance by going from 10baseT to thin BNC? 

Why?  Thinwire is 10base2, still 10Mbps.

In other words, should I switch my whole system to 10BaseT instead?
(Downloads are VIA satellite... That can be fast.) 

10baseT will be easier to upgrade to 100/1000baseT later on.  I don't
think it matters in your case, but I may be wrong.

  3) Ok, now let's say one of the A Machines is a Linux box that uses PPP to 
   hook into a secure site (behind a firewall). Let's say (oh, for 
  example)
 that everything behind the firewall is 15.19.*.*, and the machine is 
 assigned an address for PPP that is in th 15.19 domain. What this machine
 would want to do is communicate with the PPP line for everything behind th
 firewall, and communicate with the fileserver/gateway for everything else
   --
 I assume requiring it to look like a diffrent IP number for each (remembe
   r,
 the Server/Gateway will be using masquerading). So the question is, how 
 can I do this and ensure that people on other machines in the network can
   't
 get to the 15.19 domain? Assume that I'm the only one that can log onto t
   he
 Linux System I just described... (whew!)
 
Well... sounds like a box with 2 network i/faces -- the fact that one of them
is a ppp link, not a 2nd network card doesn't make much difference.  

 
  
   ---
  
  4) I can't for the life of me figure out what the startup files are defined 
   as
 or where they are defined (say, .login and .startup.x11 from my old dec 
 days)

Dot files (per-user config) are in ~ or its subdirectories, system-wide files 
are in /etc and its subdirs.  Is that what you're looking for?



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Re: Many questions (mostly Network)

1997-09-17 Thread Kevin Traas
   So my questions are:
* Can I have two ne-2000 compatible cards in the same system?

No problem.  See the Multiple-Ethernet HOWTO.

* assuming the gateway can pump data extremely fast, will I be
  losing a ton of permformance by going from 10baseT to thin BNC?
  In other words, should I switch my whole system to 10BaseT instead?
  (Downloads are VIA satellite... That can be fast.)

Nope.  This shouldn't be a problem.

* Are there any serious flaws in this plan I'm not seeing?

Nope.  You'll just want to review the Masquerading and NET HOWTO's - in
addition to the one above.

2) I'm running SAMBA on my fileserver (same setup as above). On it, I have
   a public directory (both in SAMBA terms and UNIX). However, when someone
   attempts to write a file, sometimes it doesn't allow it. Can someone
tell
   me what has to be done to make a share completely public, so that I can
   step through and see where my permissions are bad? Generally, my
solution
   is to do a chmod a+rw --recursive on the directory occsaionally. It
   sometimes fixes it.

You have to set the create mode = xxx for the share.  Refer to the docs.

4) I can't for the life of me figure out what the startup files are defined
as
   or where they are defined (say, .login and .startup.x11 from my old dec
   days)

System startup is in /etc/init.d
User startup is /etc/profile and $HOME/.bash_profile, etc.

Later,

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Re: Incoming PPP question - subnetting

1997-09-17 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Kevin Traas wrote:
 
  I'm having a problem configuring dialin PPP access on my system.  (Debian
 1.3.1, PPPD 2.2 pl0)
 
 I've allocated a subnet of addresses to the incoming lines and tried setting
 the subnet mask in /etc/ppp/options to netmask 255.255.255.224; however,
 my incoming clients have netmasks of 255.255.255.0.  Could this be a problem
 with the client, or is it the server?

PS. The netmask should be 255.255.255.255 on your end. I'm guessing
this will fix your problem.

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Re: Incoming PPP question - subnetting

1997-09-17 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Kevin Traas wrote:
 
  I'm having a problem configuring dialin PPP access on my system.  (Debian
 1.3.1, PPPD 2.2 pl0)
 
 I've allocated a subnet of addresses to the incoming lines and tried setting
 the subnet mask in /etc/ppp/options to netmask 255.255.255.224; however,
 my incoming clients have netmasks of 255.255.255.0.  Could this be a problem
 with the client, or is it the server?
 
 Anyone else doing this?

The netmask is not a negotiated option. That is, you don't tell the
peer what netmask to use and he doesn't tell you. The netmask is 
something you assign to the interface, just as you would to an 
ethernet interface.

If you don't supply a netmask, one will be computed for you, based 
upon the class of the address (determined by the 2 high-order bits
of the IP address). 

What's the problem really?

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Re: Many questions (mostly Network)

1997-09-17 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mike Patterson wrote:
--
 
 3) Ok, now let's say one of the A Machines is a Linux box that uses PPP to
hook into a secure site (behind a firewall). Let's say (oh, for example)
that everything behind the firewall is 15.19.*.*, and the machine is
assigned an address for PPP that is in th 15.19 domain. What this machine
would want to do is communicate with the PPP line for everything behind the
firewall, and communicate with the fileserver/gateway for everything else--
I assume requiring it to look like a diffrent IP number for each (remember,
the Server/Gateway will be using masquerading). So the question is, how
can I do this and ensure that people on other machines in the network can't
get to the 15.19 domain? Assume that I'm the only one that can log onto the
Linux System I just described... (whew!)

Turn off IP Forwarding on the A machine which has the PPP link.
This is configured in the kernel. This will prevent the 15.19
network from being reachable by the other machines on the A machine
network. Then you just have to keep people out of the machine.

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MD5 passwords and su

1997-09-17 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
I just detected the MD5_CRYPT_ENAB option in /etc/login.defs and
enabled it.  Login works fine with the new passwords but su seems to
have no idea of MD5.

Is there a working version of su for MD5 passwords?

I have the following packages installed:

shellutils_1.16-2 (containing su)
login_961025-2
passwd_961025-2


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Re: Sound Blaster AWE32 and Sound Blaster AWE 64 Gold

1997-09-17 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
   Hmm ... I have a SB16 and midi works fine without isapnptools,  maybe
   that's the difference.
  
  You probably have a waveblaster extension mounted to i/o 330 using the
  MPU 401 interface.  The SB 32 has a build-in (non MPU 401 compatible)
  Emu8000 waveblaster that need to be initialized to work correctly.
  
  I tried pnp extension for the kernel too and the whole sound card
  stoped working.  Now I have the normal kernel with the awe patches
  installed and use isapnp to initialize all devices on the sound card.
  
  BTW: The normal SB 16 compatible sound works without any special
   initilization, only the midi part needs extra handling to work
   correctly.
  
  Torsten
  
  -- 
 
 What do you use for the isapnp config file?  I tried it, but it could never
 initialize the MIDI portions.  I have to boot dos and use loadlin to get it
 to work.

I had the same problem too.  It seems that pnpdump forgot to dump 2 of
the 3 i/o addresses of the MIDI synthesizer (I got this information
from the AWE driver homepage's FAQ).

Here is my complete isapnp.conf (a lot of comments have been removed),
IDE is completly disabled (and therefore completetly removed).

I use the default settings for all parameter (i.e. I/O 220, IRQ 5, DMA
1 and 5, and I/O 620 for the MIDI synthesizer).



isapnp.conf
Description: Binary data

Hope this file can help you,

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Re: MD5 passwords and su

1997-09-17 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On 16 Sep 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:

 I just detected the MD5_CRYPT_ENAB option in /etc/login.defs and
 enabled it.  Login works fine with the new passwords but su seems to
 have no idea of MD5.
 
 Is there a working version of su for MD5 passwords?

su also seems to ignore ENV_SUPATH and SU_WHELL.  Looks to me that su
doesn't pay any attention to this file.

Should this be logged as a bug?  Has it been already?

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Re: top doesn't understand multiple processors

1997-09-17 Thread Stephen P. Ryan

--- You wrote:
When running top on my 2 cpu machine, I get some interesting states:

   12:12pm  up 18:03h,  5 users,  load average: 1.52, 0.76, 0.49
  65 processes: 61 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
  CPU states: 90.2% user, 107.5% system,  0.9% nice, 0.0% idle
  Mem:  128044K av, 110520K used,  17524K free,  37088K shrd,  42576K buff
  Swap: 129020K av,  0K used, 129020K free 30244K cached

The total is approximately 200%, which makes sense.  Is there anything
to be done about this?

   
--- end of quote ---
http://www-isia.cma.fr/~forissie/smp_kernel_patch/ has a kernel patch and some
patched utilities (top and xosview) to make use of the new information.  top
will then show separate lines for each cpu.  I was using this before, but I've
upgraded to 2.0.31-pre-9  haven't repatched my kernel source.  It did work the
last time I tried it.  Otherwise, my top display looks remarkably similar to
yours.

As far as I can tell, it doesn't really cause any problems, except that it
looks weird.  The fact that one CPU is reported as system time only, and not as
user time, is a known bug in the 2.0.x kernels, fixed in 2.1.x. 

As far as your earlier message about what each CPU is being used for, I have no
idea how to track that down, though possibly you may be able to figure
something out with the kernel patch from the above web site.

HTH

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Re: graphics accelarator cards ?

1997-09-17 Thread Stephen P. Ryan
--- Marc Fleureck wrote:
Does somebody know what cards are compatible and give good 
performance ? Is e.g. Matrox a good choice (say Matrox Mystique or 
Matrox Millenium) ? What's the difference between Matrox Mystique and 
Matrox Mystique ii ?
--- end of quote ---
I think Matrox is a good choice, though you do have to be careful.  Current
support is excellent for the Millenium and the Mystique, alpha / early-beta
level for the Millenium II, and this is the first I've heard of the Mystique
II.  You need XFree86 3.3 for the Millenium or the Mystique and XFree86 3.3.1
for the beta driver for the Millenium II.  The Matrox / XFree86 home page at
http://www.bf.rmit.edu.au/~ajv/xf86-matrox.html leads me to believe that you
would be better served by a Millenium or Mystique if you need this now, as the
support for the newer cards will be a while in coming.  That also indicates
that newer Millenium I's have problems (revision 3), so caveat emptor there,
too.

The Millenium is a faster card, with better expandability, if all you are going
to do is Linux and X Windows.  If you also want to do dos games or Win95 games,
get the Mystique instead, as it has better 3D support. 
http://www.matrox.com/mgaweb/home.htm is the Matrox web page, and they say that
they just cut prices on their whole product line, which should be good news.  I
don't have a Mystique, but I do know that the Millenium driver is the current
speed king in X servers (1 million x-stones on xbench!)

I've been very happy with my Millenium and recommend it strongly.

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rlogin and rxvt

1997-09-17 Thread Will Lowe
I use the following to open an xwindow to a remote host (copland),
because ssh isn't available on our central campus machines:

rxvt -e rlogin copland

And when I later do 'ps -x', I see this:

 3983   1 S  0:00 rxvt -bg black -fg grey -T Copland -n Copland -font 10x20 
 4023  p4 S  0:00 rlogin -l harpo copland
 4026  p4 S  0:00 rlogin -l harpo copland

Why are there _2_ rlogin processes,  when I'm only running _1_
rlogin?


Will

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rpc.portmap and friends

1997-09-17 Thread mike

How dangerous is it to remove rpc.portmap, rpc.bwnfsd, rpc.mountd,
rpc.nfsd, rpc.pcnfsd, rpc.rstatd, rpc.rusersd, rpc.rwalld, and rpc.ugidd?
I'm trying to setup a semi-closed box running nothing but a few terminal
server utilities and want to only accept telnet and ftp connections from a
few hosts.  I noticed that there were a few rpc services starting at boot
time, so I moved the binaries out of /usr/sbin and into another
directory.  Now inetd doesn't start at boot time because this line in
/etc/init.d/netbase;
test -f /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap || exit 0

I can get around this by simply replacing netbase with my own
script that fires up inetd.  My question is, am I doing something I
shouldn't?  Are things going to be breaking on my box from not having
these daemons running?  Any advice would be appreciated.

mike...

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Re: MD5 passwords and su

1997-09-17 Thread Galen Hazelwood
The version of su you're using (from shellutils) isn't part of the
shadow password suite.  It's smart enough to use shadow password
functions if it finds them in the library, which it does, but other
shadow features (ENV_SUPATH, SU_WHEEL, MD5 passwords) aren't available.

If you want them, you need to replace shellutils's su with the shadow-su
package.  It should be in the distribution somewhere; I can't say where,
I don't use it.

--Galen



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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-17 Thread dada
Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
 
 dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi
 
  Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
  control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
 
  I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
  lose control on all aplications that I'm using?
 
 Some application (especially Motif-ones) sometimes grab all mouse and
 keyboard event (e.g. when you select a submenu).

asometime Communicator do it, but only grab communicator and
its applications (the other ones keep on running fine.)

  If the application
 (or the widget library) forgets to correctly release the grab you will
 be unable to do anything with X-Window System, including switching to
 other terminals using ctrl-alt-fx and zapping X11 using ctrl-alt-bs.
 
 The only solution is a terminal attached to your computer, some people
 use their calculators (the better TI and HP ones) for this purpose.

ohhh... that's vodoo for me... whith an calculator?

 You can also use another computer in a local network to remote login
 into your machine.

Yes, that's the way i used.

 
 Torsten


Regards !



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Re: rpc.portmap and friends

1997-09-17 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   How dangerous is it to remove rpc.portmap, rpc.bwnfsd, rpc.mountd,
 rpc.nfsd, rpc.pcnfsd, rpc.rstatd, rpc.rusersd, rpc.rwalld, and rpc.ugidd?
 I'm trying to setup a semi-closed box running nothing but a few terminal
 server utilities and want to only accept telnet and ftp connections from a
 few hosts.  I noticed that there were a few rpc services starting at boot
 time, so I moved the binaries out of /usr/sbin and into another
 directory.  Now inetd doesn't start at boot time because this line in
 /etc/init.d/netbase;
 test -f /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap || exit 0
 
   I can get around this by simply replacing netbase with my own
 script that fires up inetd.  My question is, am I doing something I
 shouldn't?  Are things going to be breaking on my box from not having
 these daemons running?  Any advice would be appreciated.

I have a similiar arrangement that has been working for about a month
now.  No problems but I'm using it simply as a firewall.

-- 
Jean Pierre



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Re: Incoming PPP question - subnetting

1997-09-17 Thread Kevin Traas
 Thanks for the reply (and the info), Jens.

Here's what I'm trying to do:

I've got one assigned Class C - 206.182.236.0 - which I've split using a
netmask of 255.255.255.224.

I'm using one subnet of 206.182.236.32 for my local LAN.  My Debian Linux
box is IP .33 and acts as a DialdD server to ISP as well as modem server for
two lines (these incoming PPP connects are in the same subnet - .32)

I have another subnet for another LAN in another building (.64).  This LAN
has an NT server that I'm using to dial into the Linux box and provide
routing to/from this subnet.

Problem is that this NT box sets up a netmask of 255.255.255.0 for the .32
subnet that it has connected to via PPP.  From this point on, all IP traffic
on the local subnet gets routed out the PPP connection.  (Pretty bad scene -
we've got 100Base-TX going into 33.6Kbps...)

Other than manually configuring the routing tables on the NT box, I'd like
to configure things automatically - thus my message about setting
netmasks

Later,

Kevin Traas   Baan Business Systems
Systems Analyst  Langley, BC, Canada
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It _is_ user-friendly.  It's just not ignorant-friendly or idiot-friendly.


-Original Message-
From: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kevin Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Incoming PPP question - subnetting



Kevin Traas wrote:

  I'm having a problem configuring dialin PPP access on my system.
(Debian
 1.3.1, PPPD 2.2 pl0)

 I've allocated a subnet of addresses to the incoming lines and tried
setting
 the subnet mask in /etc/ppp/options to netmask 255.255.255.224;
however,
 my incoming clients have netmasks of 255.255.255.0.  Could this be a
problem
 with the client, or is it the server?

 Anyone else doing this?

The netmask is not a negotiated option. That is, you don't tell the
peer what netmask to use and he doesn't tell you. The netmask is
something you assign to the interface, just as you would to an
ethernet interface.

If you don't supply a netmask, one will be computed for you, based
upon the class of the address (determined by the 2 high-order bits
of the IP address).

What's the problem really?

--
Jens B. Jorgensen
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Re: MD5 passwords and su

1997-09-17 Thread Lindsay Allen

On 16 Sep 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:

 I just detected the MD5_CRYPT_ENAB option in /etc/login.defs and
 enabled it.  Login works fine with the new passwords but su seems to
 have no idea of MD5.
 
 Is there a working version of su for MD5 passwords?
 
 I have the following packages installed:
 
 shellutils_1.16-2 (containing su)
 login_961025-2
 passwd_961025-2

This may not help you, but it is fixed in shellutils_1.16-5.deb, which is
linked against libc6.

Lindsay

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Re: rpc.portmap and friends

1997-09-17 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How dangerous is it to remove rpc.portmap, rpc.bwnfsd, rpc.mountd,
 rpc.nfsd, rpc.pcnfsd, rpc.rstatd, rpc.rusersd, rpc.rwalld, and rpc.ugidd?
 I'm trying to setup a semi-closed box running nothing but a few terminal
 server utilities and want to only accept telnet and ftp connections from a
 few hosts.  I noticed that there were a few rpc services starting at boot
 time, so I moved the binaries out of /usr/sbin and into another
 directory.  Now inetd doesn't start at boot time because this line in
 /etc/init.d/netbase;
 test -f /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap || exit 0
 
 I can get around this by simply replacing netbase with my own
 script that fires up inetd.  My question is, am I doing something I
 shouldn't?  Are things going to be breaking on my box from not having
 these daemons running?  Any advice would be appreciated.
 

Just modify /etc/init.d/netbase to not test for /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap
and not to start it. You can control access to other network services
by commenting them out in /etc/inetd.conf (turning them off altogether)
or by modifying /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny (selectively 
allowing one host or another).

Moving the binaries out of /usr/sbin is excessive and unnecessary.

If you want to make the system really tight then disable all regular
login (rexec, rsh, telnet) and install ssh.

-- 
Jens B. Jorgensen
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