Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)

1997-12-29 Thread Daniel Gross
Hi all!

Thanks to the ones, who helped me with my smail configuration problem.
(Martin Bialasinski, David Stern and Bob Nielsen)

But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all.
Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now,
I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone company) 
has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull 
newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the From: field is 
not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] which 
is 
not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails).

Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news
server? Using an other newsreader?

Thanks in advance!

Daniel Gross


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What does 'bo' stand for?

1997-12-29 Thread Pancho Horrillo
Hi!

I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian
distribution tree? Binary Something?

Thanx for your support

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Re: What does 'bo' stand for?

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Schulze
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
 Hi!
 
   I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian
 distribution tree? Binary Something?

Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'.

Regards

Joey

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LibGif2

1997-12-29 Thread Asher Haig
Does anyone out there know where I can get libgif2? Preferably in .deb 
form?

Apparently I need it to be able to install KDE

Thanks

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Re: What does 'bo' stand for?

1997-12-29 Thread Geoff Kuchera
According to Pancho Horrillo:

Hi!

   I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian
distribution tree? Binary Something?

   Thanx for your support

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A very good question:  bo stands for bo as in bo peep a character from Toy
Story.  These names were chosen as Bruce P. works for Pixar creaters of
Toy Story...


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Re: LibGif2

1997-12-29 Thread Brett Wildermoth

Asher Haig wrote:
Does anyone out there know where I can get libgif2?
Preferably in .deb
form?

Apparently I need it to be able to install KDE

Thanks

--Asher

The KDELIB file should contain this file

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Has anyone managed to compile amanda for bo?

1997-12-29 Thread Stan Brown
I am trying to set up amanda for our network. I have a Debian bo
machine on it. I can't seem to get amanda going. The original
distribution core dumpps while runing configure! It's trying tocheck
for dump =E at the time BTW.

There is a package for hamm, bit it has a dependency (I forget which
one) that I don;t have. The source package won;t extract cleanly :-(

So I wonder if I am the only person in the world trying to get it to
work.

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Re: getting started in Xwin (Help)

1997-12-29 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes:

 On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:35:55 GMT, Rick wrote:
  Matrox Mystique II, 4mb

 Getting vga mode to work should be pretty simple.  The only reason svga 
 might not be as easy is that I dunno if your vid card is supported and 
 it'd be advisable to find out your monitor specs.  Anyway, this is how 
 I'd do it:
 snip

The Matrox Millenium II isn't supported by the version of xfree86 that
ships with Debian bo (1.3.1).  However, it is supported by a later
version of Xfree86, so you can get it to work; basically, what I did
was install xbase, xvga16, xsvga, then I went through and set up a vga 
system more or less as David Stern described.  I then downloaded the
XFree86 binaries from the XFree86 site and installed them on top of
the Debian stuff.  I posted a message a bit back describing this
procedure in detail - I still have a copy somewhere, and can send that 
along if the mailing list archives are still in disarray.  (Does the
search engine work yet?  If not, does anyone in charge of it care?)

(I was doing this because I have a Matrox Mystique 220, for which the
situation is similar in terms of which X supports it.)


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Re: hang on bootup

1997-12-29 Thread Jason and Heather

Here's the latest...

On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:06:59PM -0700, Jason and Heather wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 10:26:13AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On my system, this line results in a 10 second freeze up, and then
  Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
 
 Thanks for the info. I don't have a SCSI card in my computer, so I'm not
 too surprised it isn't working.

That appears to be it. Someone compiled a bare-bones kernel for me
that managed to get past this problem. I don't think some of the
other options were the same though, because after booting, it gave
me:

  RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
  VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem).
  VFS: Cannot open root device 03:41
  Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:41

It looks like it might be trying to mount the root on , but how it
got that, I don't know.

Any suggestions? If possible, I'd like to keep the standard kernel
and just tell it to skip probing for SCSI devices, since I know that's
the problem now.

jason

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Re: none

1997-12-29 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Timothy Hospedales [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know what the story is with JDK? .According to my packages
 file, the stable debian packages is ver 1.0.2.. Sun recently released
 ver 1.2 (For Solaris/Windoze).. 
 Is the package behind because Sun hasn't released any / any stable versions
 for linux beyond 1.0.2, or because the package hasn't been updated, or what?

Yes.  That is, there's a more up to date jdk package (with a different 
and to my way of thinking better organization) in hamm, and last I
checked Sun wasn't releasing any java stuff for linux - the linux-java 
things are ported from the Sun reference implementation.  This means
there is always a delay beyond the normal packaging delay as a new
release is first ported to Linux, and then packaged for Debian.

By the way, the hamm jdk package installs and runs just fine on my
all-libc5 (bo) system.


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Re: dpkg

1997-12-29 Thread Joey Hess
Timothy Hospedales wrote:
   IS there a dpkg option to list all the installed packages?

dpkg -l

 since it keeps track of what is installed, I presume there must be some
 file somewhere which has them listed in it, anyone happen to know which
 file that is?

/var/lib/dpkg/status

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Re: dselect ftp

1997-12-29 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all.
 
 A brief question, which I suspect may require a verbose answer...  Is there
 a way to install debain using ftp on a dial-up connection? 
 
 I suspect one may have to install ppp support from an alternate console
 before dselect will work, but is there a recognised way of doing this?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Rob.

Yes, but I will put in a warning about the incredible SLOWNESS of this
procedure.  A basic ppp is installed with the current bo disks - just
do the disk-based install to the point where you've set the root
password, etc., and are about to be dumped into dselect.  Then switch
to another console (alt-F2), log in as root, and get your ppp setup
working - often, this is just a matter of editing /etc/ppp.chatscript
to suit your ISP and typing 'pon'.  (You may need to edit
/etc/ppp.options_out as well)


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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Joey Hess
George Bonser wrote:
 I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method
 that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the
 menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is
 GPLed and looks like a good idea.

Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's
been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable
currently use it.

 The basic concept is that each package contains config files that
 live in /etc/X11/wmconfig that define the menu entry in a generic
 way.  The user can also override those entries in their home directory
 (~/.wmconfig).

Check, menu is the same. (though the files go in /usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu,
and ~/.menu/)

 There is then an app called 'wmconfig' that processes the information
 in all those files into window manager specific menu entries (it
 is a C program that is architected to be modular in nature...it can
 currently handle fvwm2, afterstep, and mwm style output).

Ah, I think menu is better here. Menu implements a specialized programming
language. You write a config file in this language, which makes it output
config files for a window manager. This is more easily modified by the
end-user, becuase you don't have to recompile anything.

 have to use some help to get that data into a config file...in RH
 we use fvwm2's m4 pre-processing to do it.  You could hack any WM
 pretty easily to support this.

Debian's menu package is already supported by: 

pdmenu (not even a window manager, just a menu program)
afterstep
dwww (not a window manager either)
fvwm2
fvwm95
gnome
icewm
kde
olvwm
olwm
wm2
wmaker

 The key is that the data is generic and should be easy to deal with
 by another external program.

I'd be interested to know what data format they use. Debian's menu package
is designed to use an extensible format, composed of key and value pairs.
So you can very easily add new fields if you need them.

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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
  I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method
  that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the
  menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is
  GPLed and looks like a good idea.
 Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's
 been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable
 currently use it.

 And surely the RH solution works only with X programs..!


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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Joey Hess
Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
   I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method
   that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the
   menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is
   GPLed and looks like a good idea.
  Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's
  been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable
  currently use it.
 
  And surely the RH solution works only with X programs..!

That's a good point, the debian one can be used for X programs, text
programs, and can even (if you're sneaky) bounce you out of X to run svgalib
stuff and return to X when done. Oh, and it is used for menus of html 
documentation too.. Abritrary new typres of programs can be added easily as
well.

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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Joey Hess
George Bonser wrote:
 How do you make the debian menus work with a text display?  I have never
 seen such a menu. What command do you run do display such a menu on a
 text terminal session?

You use a program such as pdmenu[1], which displays menus on a text display.
It's a debian package, install pdmenu and menu and type pdmenu, and you'll
see it.

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Re: Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)

1997-12-29 Thread Carl Fink
 . . . I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull 
 newsgroups, and read it offline.

There are (of course) several ways to do this.  I use suck, which
downloads news and stores it on a local news spool.  This is probably
more work than you want to bother with.

I suggest you look at slrn, which comes with slrnpull, a program
that downloads articles locally but does *not* require you to set up
innd on your computer.

There are other choices (leafnode, slirp) out there as well.
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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Adam Shand


If anyone here is known on the Caldera/Red Hat lists we should ask them to
post a follow up to the original message.

If we could get some element of standarization between Debian/Red
Hat/Caldera it would be [IMHO] a Good Thing.

Someone want to voluenteer?

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On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

 George Bonser wrote:
  I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method
  that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the
  menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is
  GPLed and looks like a good idea.
 
 Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's
 been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable
 currently use it.
 
  The basic concept is that each package contains config files that
  live in /etc/X11/wmconfig that define the menu entry in a generic
  way.  The user can also override those entries in their home directory
  (~/.wmconfig).
 
 Check, menu is the same. (though the files go in /usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu,
 and ~/.menu/)
 
  There is then an app called 'wmconfig' that processes the information
  in all those files into window manager specific menu entries (it
  is a C program that is architected to be modular in nature...it can
  currently handle fvwm2, afterstep, and mwm style output).
 
 Ah, I think menu is better here. Menu implements a specialized programming
 language. You write a config file in this language, which makes it output
 config files for a window manager. This is more easily modified by the
 end-user, becuase you don't have to recompile anything.
 
  have to use some help to get that data into a config file...in RH
  we use fvwm2's m4 pre-processing to do it.  You could hack any WM
  pretty easily to support this.
 
 Debian's menu package is already supported by: 
 
   pdmenu (not even a window manager, just a menu program)
   afterstep
   dwww (not a window manager either)
   fvwm2
   fvwm95
   gnome
   icewm
   kde
   olvwm
   olwm
   wm2
   wmaker
 
  The key is that the data is generic and should be easy to deal with
  by another external program.
 
 I'd be interested to know what data format they use. Debian's menu package
 is designed to use an extensible format, composed of key and value pairs.
 So you can very easily add new fields if you need them.
 
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Re: Printing problem solved

1997-12-29 Thread David Stern
 On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, David Stern wrote:
 
  with your resources.  DejaNews (http://www.dejanews.com) searches the 
  Debian List, so if you have a question which you think is likely to be 
  common (I'd imagine configuring a deskjet is somewhat common), you 
  might try searching the list archives there--Debian doesn't have their 
  own search engine.  [..]

 [..snipped message asking where debian-users was at on dejanews..]

I appear to have stuck my foot in my mouth.  Sorry about that.  I've 
used dejanews, and I have access to the linux.debian.users newsgroup 
via my nntp server, but I've never used them both together.  I did find 
a few messages posted to linux.debian.users at dejanews, so it's 
possible that it used to be there, but I can't say for sure.  I also 
found the linux.debian.* heirarchy, but debian-users wasn't there.

Would someone in the know please give us the scoop on dejanews and 
debian-users?  If dejanews doesn't have debian-users, why is the rest 
of the debian list heirarchy there?  What would it take to get dejanews 
to carry debian-users?
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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Joey Hess
George Bonser wrote:
 Hey!  Way cool!  I had pdmenu but had never used it.  Now ... if only more
 programs put themselves into the menuing system ... :(

File wishlist bugs, and upgrade to hamm, which has far more programs using 
it than did bo (if you're still using bo, that is..).

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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Shand wrote:
 If anyone here is known on the Caldera/Red Hat lists we should ask them to
 post a follow up to the original message.
 
 If we could get some element of standarization between Debian/Red
 Hat/Caldera it would be [IMHO] a Good Thing.
 
 Someone want to voluenteer?

Not me, but FWIW, I thisk SuSE has it's own version of this too

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accelx question

1997-12-29 Thread Shaleh
has anyone installed accelx 4.1 on a bo system.  I have a copy and
wanted to install it.  But the last time I did it rendered Xfree
unusable.  It ate the kb database.


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Re: accelx question

1997-12-29 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 has anyone installed accelx 4.1 on a bo system.  I have a copy and
 wanted to install it.  But the last time I did it rendered Xfree
 unusable.  It ate the kb database.

It's a feature of AX 4.1. Next time before installing AX, backup
you /etc/X11 directory and restore after installation.

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redirection for netscape conference

1997-12-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Hi,

I want to run Netscape Conference on a PC behind an IP masquerading
firewall, to talk to the real world. So I need something to redirect
the ports.

I've looked at redir; I start it up standalone on the three ports
Netscape wants to use, but it seems to die straight away. This is not good.
I couldn't get it to redirect to another host at all in inetd mode;
it seems to get some garbage for the host name and give up.

The description for socket says it can redirect ports to another
host but neither the manual page nor the README give any suggestions
as to how this might be accomplished.

Any suggestions?

thanks,
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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

 George Bonser wrote:
  Hey!  Way cool!  I had pdmenu but had never used it.  Now ... if only more
  programs put themselves into the menuing system ... :(
 
 File wishlist bugs, and upgrade to hamm, which has far more programs using 
 it than did bo (if you're still using bo, that is..).

Indeed,  writing menu entries isn't difficult --- about thirty seconds
worth of thought it all that's required.  Even though this means that
package maintainers should have no reason _not_ to include menu entries,
this makes it entirely possible for the person filing the wishlist bug to
include a suggested menu file contents -- the maintainer has to do even
less thinking and is therefore more likely to include it in the next
release.  If someone who hasn't used menu before has to figure it out for
the one package they maintain,  they may not bother...


Will


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Re: smail / fetchmail and ppp problems

1997-12-29 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Martin Bialasinski wrote:

  Ok.  I've narrowed it down -- smail doesn't like mail addressed to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- if I tell fetchmail to use procmail as the delivery
  agent,  everything is fine,  but otherwise sendmail seems to send itself
  into infinite loops trying to deliver to localhost and then it just
  returns too many hops errors.
  
 Try to add localhost to the hostname= line in /etc/smail/config.
 Like hostname=localhost:foo:foo.domain.com

Yes.  Thanks -- I discovered this early this morning.

Shouldn't smailconfig automatically assume that
hostname=localhost:foo:foo.domain.com
should be added in /etc/smail/config?  The only way to do this currently
is to answer the Is this system known by any other names? question with
Yes;  localhost ... is there a case where you _wouldn't_ want this,  and
if so,  is it a _default_ one?

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Problems with NFSD?

1997-12-29 Thread William R Ward

I have just upgraded my Debian 1.2 to the latest bleeding edge stuff
using HAMM, and have found that my nfsd appears to occasionally go
into oblivion for no apparent reason.  I have to stop and restart
(using /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs) periodically as things just hang on the
client machines.

Has anyone else experienced this?  I have tried turning on the
debugging option but have yet to see anything that appears to be
relevant in the logs.

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Re: Printing problem solved

1997-12-29 Thread David Stern
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 19:59:52 PST, George Bonser wrote:
 
 I really would not want to see debian-user on deja news ... deja-news is a
 spam harvester's dream.  If deja-news picks it up, I would want to see all
 articles from the gateway have an X-No-Archive: yes header inserted so
 that the articles are ignored by deja-news.
 
 I sometimes post an article to the newsgroups that I WANT saved in the
 deja-news archives so I remove the X-No-Archive header in my news posting
  I am then deluged with spam for about two weeks until I get all the
 spammers into my exim filters and databases.

Unless ALL search engines are harvested by spammers (i.e.: forget 
dejanews), the foregoing is beside the point of my intent, which is 
essentially: What will it take to get a (any) search function for 
debian-user? Or conversely, what is blocking a search function from 
being implemented?  Or does a search function plan already exist? ..
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Re: Printing problem solved

1997-12-29 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, David Stern wrote:

 essentially: What will it take to get a (any) search function for 
 debian-user? Or conversely, what is blocking a search function from 
 being implemented?  Or does a search function plan already exist? ..

Well,  you can hit the archives at www.debian.org and search _them_
with something simple like Netscape's find ...

Will


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netmask

1997-12-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Is a netmask of 255.255.255.128 (ie half a class C) 25 bits of
address, ie a /28 designator for tools that use that form of netmask?
I think it should but have never really known the rules for this.
I figure 32 bits is one host (255.255.255.255), 24 bits is
a class C (255.255.255.0); half of a class C is one less bit used
within the network, ie 25.

ipfwadm likes this form of netmask.

thanks.

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Re: netmask

1997-12-29 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is a netmask of 255.255.255.128 (ie half a class C) 25 bits of
address, ie a /28 designator for tools that use that form of netmask?

Yes, it's 25 bits, but it's not a /28, it's a /25 ofcourse ..

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Re: netmask

1997-12-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 01:09:16PM +0100, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is a netmask of 255.255.255.128 (ie half a class C) 25 bits of
 address, ie a /28 designator for tools that use that form of netmask?
 
 Yes, it's 25 bits, but it's not a /28, it's a /25 ofcourse ..

Of course. Thanks for your help.


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Re: Changing the domain

1997-12-29 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote:
  Maybe a /etc/domain is there for NIS/YP?
Exactly.

And to change the domainname, you need to change:
  /etc/resolv.conf
  /etc/hosts
The latter should contain at the ip address of each of the hosts
interfaces.

Nils


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loss of xauthority

1997-12-29 Thread hawk

I'm stumped again.  I've lost my ability to control xhost for more than a 
minute or so.  This is fairly recent.

my xhost + . . .  line in .xsession used to let me specify my common hosts, 
including localhost.  No longer.

It is necessary to do an xhost + immediately before a program tries to open an 
xwindow.  ANd for each additional attempt.

I don't *think* i did anything to bring on this change.

WHile I'm at it, should I be using something other than xhost?  the fm's i rt
'd seem to suggest I should be using magic cookies instead.

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sendmail relay against spam on debian

1997-12-29 Thread Anthony Landreneau
Greetings,
I have two Debian boxes that sit on my Network.  The network is host to
about 100 domains.  Along with acting as the DNS for the network, the two
boxes also act as MX relay for all of the domains.  The problem is someone
out there found my boxes and used them to dump spam.
Have disabled the  relay feature, but this is causing problems for my
domain users.  I would like to reinstate this feature, but want to limit
who these boxes sendmail to.  I want to me able to relay mail to all of my
domains, but not to relay mail to anyone else.  But I do wish to accept
mail from the universe, to relay to my domains.
I have read the information about configuring sendmail, spam and all 
that
other stuff.  I must say that my head is spinning.  Has anyone else out
there resolved this problem, and would be willing to hold my hand while I
institute it on my two debian boxes?  Thanks,

Anthony



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Re: Offline news access

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Daniel Gross wrote:

 But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all.
 Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now,
 I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone 
 company) 
 has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull 
 newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the From: field is 
 not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 which is 
 not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails).
 
You can configure your From: field in tin's option. Press M in the
group listing. Option 88 is your mailaddress.
 
 Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news
 server? Using an other newsreader?
 
I use leafnode as a newsserver and gnus as my newsreader.

Once you have told leafnode what your upstrem newsserver is, you don't
have to bother with it any more. It will do the Right Thing(tm) itself.
You just fetch new articles when you are online (e.g. in ip-up) and
texpire to get rid of old ones (already a daily cronjob).
Leafnode does see what groups you are interested in (when you enter them)
and will fetch these articles. If you don't enter a group for a week
(default), leafnode assumes you are not interested in this group any more
and stops fetching it.

Unfortunatly due to the way tin works, leafnode doesn't see which group
you enter for the first time, so you can't use tin with leafnode.

You could give gnus (the (x)emacs newsreader) a try, but be warned, that
it has a somewhat steeper learning curve (but has a great info manual). It
is also more powerfull than tin. You can even make it read your mail.

Ciao,
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Re: paths and su

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Tim Ferrell wrote:

 Nope, I double checked this to be sure. I have only aliases in my
 bashrc files (global, user, and root). I am inclined to think that this
 is being set by a default config file somewhere though, because of the
 inclusion of /usr/bin/X11 - I always refer to this dir as
 /usr/X11r6/bin. Any other thoughts? 
 
How about the hard way ?

 find /etc /home -type f | xargs grep /usr/bin/X11 /tmp/find.x11

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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:

 When I try to dial my ISP using /etc/ppp.chatscript in my ppp.log file I
 get this message:
 
 Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M
 Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address -
 please try again(carrot goes here)M
 
Do you use pon to connect?

Check if you have debug in /etc/ppp.options_out (or was it in
/etc/ppp/options ? Better put it in both files, I don't recall if pon uses
them both). This will give more verbose messages.

BTW: What does (carrot goes here) mean?

You should also post your /etc/ppp.chatscript and your
/etc/ppp.options_out file. 

How do you log in? Terminal login, PAP, CHAP?

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Is it possible to start X Windows in multiple V/C .

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Lazar Fleysher wrote:

 ~/startx -- :1
 
 _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
 _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
 
 Fatal server error:
 Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't
 already running
 

Did you check that there isn't already a server on display :1 as suggested
by the error message?

ps -ax |grep /usr/X11R6/bin/X

Also there might be a stale lockfile due to a servercrash.

Check for /tmp/.X1-lock and /tmp/.X11-unix/X1= and delete them.

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Re: smail / fetchmail and ppp problems

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

 Shouldn't smailconfig automatically assume that
   hostname=localhost:foo:foo.domain.com
 should be added in /etc/smail/config?  The only way to do this currently
 is to answer the Is this system known by any other names? question with
 Yes;  localhost ... is there a case where you _wouldn't_ want this,  and
 if so,  is it a _default_ one?
 
Hmm, good point. File a bugreport then will see what the packagemaintainer
thinks about this.

I think noone thought that there could be a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] coming
in at the smtp port. And local mail seems to be handled differently
(AFAIK, smail is black magic to me :-)

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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Tim Sailer
Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 
 On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:
 
  When I try to dial my ISP using /etc/ppp.chatscript in my ppp.log file I
  get this message:
  
  Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M
  Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address -
  please try again(carrot goes here)M
  
 Do you use pon to connect?
 
 Check if you have debug in /etc/ppp.options_out (or was it in
 /etc/ppp/options ? Better put it in both files, I don't recall if pon uses
 them both). This will give more verbose messages.

I think he is using pap, and pap-secrets doesn't match the hostname.

 BTW: What does (carrot goes here) mean?

He means ^M

Tim

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off topics, seaching for cheap stuff..

1997-12-29 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
Hello everybody.., can some one here suggest me sites on the net where I
can buy cheap computer hardwares, somebody suggest me a good site a week
ago, where I can buy things very very cheap, something like a brand new
sony 17 monitor for around $300, but I accidentally deleted my netscape
user profiles and lost everything, the worst is that I can not remember
the url...

if some one out there know it please help me..

thanks
kusuma



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Help on printers

1997-12-29 Thread BRIAN SCHRAMM
 I have an IP address of 56.88.7.156 on my network at work.  My printer
 IP address (HP Jetdirect card) is 192.0.0.192.  How can I talk to it?

 Brian Schramm


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X-Server

1997-12-29 Thread Glenn Scherb
I'm planning to set up my first Debian box from the InfoMagic collection 
sometime in the next few weeks.  I have a choice between XF86 and Metro-X 
X-Servers.  I'm using a Number Nine 9FX Reality 332 card with 2MB.  Any 
recommendations, pros, cons, etc.

Also, any recommendations, pros, cons, etc for window managers would be 
appreciated.

TIA

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Re: Grey Screen After Starting XF86

1997-12-29 Thread Philipp Frauenfelder
 I've configured XF86 (correctly I think) but evertime I try to start it
 with the X command, I get a grey screen and an X cursor.  Nothing
 happens after that.

try 'startx' instead.

 Can anybody help?

I hope this helps.

 GK.

cu

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Re: Full Root

1997-12-29 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, Anthony Landreneau wrote:
 My root partition, of 400 megs is full. The partition   /usr  and that of
 /var are all on their own partition.  I have looked in every directory for
 a core file, and have scanned for viruses.  There is no reason that the
 root partition should be filled to capacity and I can't seem to find the
 reason that it is.  Fsck, shows the drive as find.  Any help in this matter
 would be much appreciated. 
A file that had been deleted, but is still opened by some process (e.g. a
daemon) will still occupy space until the last process that has a file
descriptor open will close it. So if all else fails, see if rebooting
makes any difference.

Nils


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Re: changing domain name

1997-12-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Aaron Walker wrote:
 
 How would I go about changing my domain name? Thanks for your help.

From your earlier message I'm guessing that you want to assign a
real, live DNS name to your machine as opposed to changing what
your machine thinks it is. You need to contact the holders of the
DNS zone you wish to have yourself added to. This is generally your
ISP. They may or may not charge you a one-time or on-going fee for
this service. 

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libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl

1997-12-29 Thread Randy Edwards
Running hamm I tried to install the various Linux Gazette packages. 
However, they depend on libwww-perl.  Fine, but after selecting
libwww-perl it says it needs libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl and
these are nowhere to be found.  Anyone know what the status is of these
packages?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl

1997-12-29 Thread Scott Ellis
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

 Running hamm I tried to install the various Linux Gazette packages. 
 However, they depend on libwww-perl.  Fine, but after selecting
 libwww-perl it says it needs libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl and
 these are nowhere to be found.  Anyone know what the status is of these
 packages?  Thanks in advance.

Yep, they're stuck in incoming, a mirror of which is at
ftp1.us.debian.org/pub/debian/Incoming

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Debian on CD.

1997-12-29 Thread Timothy Hospedales
My current Debian system is off FTP sites. I am looking to buy Debian on
CD when the next version comes out with libc6 standardized. What are the
pro's and con's have you guys noticed for the different vendors?

Thanks,
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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:

   Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M
   Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address -
   please try again(carrot goes here)M
   
 I think he is using pap, and pap-secrets doesn't match the hostname.
 
I also though in that direction, but shouldn't pppd report this not chat?

Therefore my question about the authentication method.

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Re: Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)

1997-12-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Daniel Gross wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 
 Thanks to the ones, who helped me with my smail configuration problem.
 (Martin Bialasinski, David Stern and Bob Nielsen)
 
 But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all.
 Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now,
 I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone company)
 has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull
 newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the From: field is
 not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 which is
 not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails).
 
 Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news
 server? Using an other newsreader?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Daniel Gross

You can also use pnf which is like suck. To quote the README:

 PNF is Personal News Fetcher.  It's intended use is similar to that of suck,
 that is, to get articles to feed a small news spool.
 
 PNF came into existence during the late summer of 1996 to cope with
 the frequent news problems my ISP was having, the most challenging to
 suck being an intermittently  broken history database.  Because of
 suck's method of avoiding re-downloading cross-posts,  it downloads
 with HEAD/BODY/ARTICLE Message-ID NNTP commands.  Since Message-ID
 based commands depend on a good history database, an alternative was
 necessary.  The well-known perl 'seen' hash array idiom was employed
 to get an as-you-go duplicate checker, and when combined with Rodger
 Anderson's NNTPClient module, the immediate problem was handled in
 surprisingly short order.
  ...
 PNF now does more or less what suck does, plus some other things that may
 give it reason to exist beyond its current home.  It can send articles
 directly to an NNTP server through IHAVE, avoiding intermediate storing
 and batching.  It can pipe an rnews batch to a program, say, pnews_expand
 from Jim Buchanan's pnews package, again avoiding storing.  Because of
 its newsreader-like downloading approach, it accomodates the use by
 ISPs of reader-only machines with nnrpds with their history shorted out
 (Who could that have been?).  Finally, and most telling I think, it's written
 in Perl! :-)  ( Egil Kvaleberg's NewsX does IHAVE and rnews to a pipe, and
 other nifty things, among them many features targeted for bigger setups
 than PNF is meant for.  You can run a multiuser news spool with NewsX.
 You probably couldn't with PNF.)

The only drawback is that pnf isn't a debian package. I had no trouble getting
it to work. Check comp.os.linux.announce archive for more details.

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SLRN problem

1997-12-29 Thread Pann McCuaig
I'm running a bo system and have just installed slrn (and slrnpull).

No problems with the install, or setting up slrnpull to query the NNTP
server at my ISP. I can see in the log that articles are being pulled
down, and I can see them spread about under /var/spool/slrnpull/news.

I've RTFMed README, README.Debian, QUICK_INSTALL, and INSTALL, edited
.slrnrc appropriately (I believe), BUT . . .

When I invoke 'slrn --spool' I have no newsgroups listed. I'm sure it's
something simple but I'm missing it.

Help, please. Thanks.

Cheers,
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Re: loss of xauthority

1997-12-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm stumped again.  I've lost my ability to control xhost for more than a
 minute or so.  This is fairly recent.
 
 my xhost + . . .  line in .xsession used to let me specify my common hosts,
 including localhost.  No longer.
 
 It is necessary to do an xhost + immediately before a program tries to open an
 xwindow.  ANd for each additional attempt.
 
 I don't *think* i did anything to bring on this change.
 
 WHile I'm at it, should I be using something other than xhost?  the fm's i rt
 'd seem to suggest I should be using magic cookies instead.

Yes, cookies are better. However lest I start a tremendous and for-most-
people useless debate over just how insecure the magic-cookie
xauthorization and indeed all available built-in authorization let
me echo the refrain up front: the magic-cookie auth scheme is
insecure. That said, it is arguably *less* insecure than using xhost.
In order to use it, you need to have your XAUTHORITY environment
variable set. It should be a full-pathname to an xauth file. This is
generally '~/.Xauthority'. Your X server must also be set up to use
MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 authorization, which xdm does by default. The next
hurdle is to get the xauth info into the file. Note that the cookie
must be in the xauth file on the client. Since a new cookie is 
randomly generated each time you start a session you need to get the
cookie data transported you want to run an x client on some machine.
This can be a pain but then again the words effortless and security
are seldom coincident. The most readily available way to get around
this is to have a script which uses rsh in some way to cat the 
information over the network. But now we're back to the fact that rsh
is inherently insecure. If you're not worried about that (and perhaps
you should be, especially if you're not on an isolated network or
behind a firewall) you could accomplish a remote xterm with:

  xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh otherhost xauth merge - ; xon otherhost
  (taken from xauth man page, with 'xon' addition)

Personally, I prefer to use ssh which provides secure (though there
has been debate about the insecurity of the x-forwarding which essentially
goes back to the insecure way in which X does business) remote
execution. ssh is available as a debian package on the non-us sites.

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Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-29 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Timothy Hospedales wrote:

   My current Debian system is off FTP sites. I am looking to buy Debian on
 CD when the next version comes out with libc6 standardized. What are the
 pro's and con's have you guys noticed for the different vendors?

I bought my 1.2 CD from Cheapbytes and didn't have any problems.
Historically,  the Infomagic Debian CDs have caused a few problems.  We
now have a Debian Official CD program where any cd which claims to be an
Official Debian CD is guarunteed (by the seller) to be a direct
bit-for-bit copy of our CD masters,  so anything under that label should
be fine.

Will


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Re: loss of xauthority

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WHile I'm at it, should I be using something other than xhost?  the fm's i rt
 'd seem to suggest I should be using magic cookies instead.
 

Yes. Here was a posting about this some time ago. I quote it below.

Ciao,
Martin


From: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:48:19 +
Subject: xauth +, not a good idea...

On Jun 21, Gernot Bauer wrote
  Hi,
  I recently upgraded my Xfree setup to 3.3 from unstable. But now I seem
  to have some problems.
 Only the user that runs the xserver (startx) can run apps on it
  any attempt to run an app by another user is refused. eg below;
 
 # xhost
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 xhost:  unable to open display :0.0
 # 
 
 Isnt this a feature? Did you try xhost +? My root-user also must not
 open windows on my (user-)screen. xhost + disables this.

 and enables anyone on the Internet to connect to your X server and,
say, stuff the string rm -rf / in an open root xterm. Or read everything
you type, inluding passwords.

Doing xhosts + in response to an Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key is
pretty much the equivalent of making all files writable by anyone (chmod
-R ugo+w /) and setting all the passwords to  in response to a
permission denied error when trying to access a file. Anyone that can get
to your machine can now do pretty much anything they want to it. So, unless
your machine is never connected to any kind of network, it's definitely a
*bad* idea. And the Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key message that other
users get when trying to connect to your X server is definitely a *feature*
(enclosed in stars) as opposed to a feature (enclosed in quotes).

If you trust everyone who has a login on your machine, do xhost
+local: instead of xhost +. This will allow only non-network, local
connections to your X server. 

If you don't trust every user on your machine, you'll need to learn a bit
about xauth. xauth list $DISPLAY will list the key for the display
$DISPLAY.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth list $DISPLAY
pianocktail.org/unix:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e

Anyone who has that key is authorized to connect to the X server managing
display $DISPLAY. So say you want to grant user bar access to the display
that user foo is using, you just do (as bar):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth add pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e

(Everything after the 'add' was copied (using cut and paste) from the
output of the 'xauth list' command.)

You can automate this a bit more if you can use something like rsh or
ssh. Then doing (as user foo):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth extract - $DISPLAY | ssh -l bar localhost merge - 

will give user bar the same access rights over the display $DISPLAY as user
foo. By changing 'localhost' to some other host name, you can give a user
logged onto another machine access to your display. (extract/merge work in
a binary format instead of text, so they're not really suitable for cut and
paste work.)

If you logged in as a non-root user and want to give root on that machine
the right to open xterms, etc. (maybe you want to install the latest Debian
packages from stable), there's an even easier way. Since root can read
other users' files, you can just tell root to use user foo's $HOME/.Xauthority
file (which is where all the information we've just manipulated using
'xauth' is stored)... Just setting root's XAUTHORITY environment variable to
(say) /home/foo/.Xauthority will tell root to use the keys contained in
that file when she needs to authenticate herself to the X server (to, say,
open an xterm).

I hope I've been convincing enough on these two points:

1. Doing xhost + is simply a *bad* idea.
2. Doing it right (i.e. with xauth, .Xauthority and MIT magic cookies)
really isn't that hard.

If you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask here

  Christian
  Debian Security Officer

PS Not that the MIT magic cookie scheme is perfect... The cookies aren't
encrypted when they are transfered between the X client and the X
server. So if you're connecting over a network, people who can snoop on
your packets can grab the magic cookie and then use it to connect to your X
server and do nasty stuff. But that's quite a bit harder to do. And since
it requires snooping, it won't work for local X connections. If you want to
do remote X connections securely, you really want to have a look at ssh. It
makes it easier to have secure X connections than unsecure ones. (No need
to do any xauth stuff.) There's a Debian package for it on the Debian
non-US ftp site.

PPS Where do people learn to xauth +? Would having a file that explains
what the Right Thing (tm) to do is be a good idea? Something that would get
installed with Debian's X11 packages, or something...



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1997-12-29 Thread hawk
Martin wrote,


 From: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:48:19 +
 Subject: xauth +, not a good idea...
 

 If you don't trust every user on your machine, you'll need to learn a bit
 about xauth. xauth list $DISPLAY will list the key for the display
 $DISPLAY.

 pianocktail.org/unix:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e

 Anyone who has that key is authorized to connect to the X server managing
 display $DISPLAY. So say you want to grant user bar access to the display
 that user foo is using, you just do (as bar):

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth add pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
 53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e

curioser and curioser.  I tried this, and it worked--once.  I then 
successfully launched emacs, then lost the ability to change the remote xauth 
entirely. (???).

Getting the sequence from the login xterm, I then type
pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY   
 eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1
pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth add eyry.econ/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 
684e3c0f4c1e460741426f5272005d0c
pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY   
 eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1

That is, it isn't changing it in the remote system.  However, it does seem to 
work in the root window on the local system.

The remote system is using kerberos if this makes a difference.  I still 
haven't figured out how to get the rpm's for kerberos installed.  This 
prevents me from using rsh, getting pop-3 mail, etc.

I've looked at the telnet man page, and it looks like I could evaluate the 
cookie, put it in a variable, pass this with the environ option, then have the 
remote .cshrc check for the variable, and add it if present.

At the moment, i'm not worried nearly as much about security as in getting 
something to work.  Even xhost + only works for a few seconds.

thanks

rick




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smail vs procmail

1997-12-29 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
Hi,

I have a .forward file with the following line:

|IFS=' '  p=/usr/bin/procmail  test -f $p  exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 
#mario

This used to work under sendmail. Now, I just replaced sendmail
with smail and I can't get my email filtered trough procmail.
The replacement was done with:
dpkg --force-depends --purge sendmail;
dpkg -i smail_3.?.?.deb

Looking at /var/adm/smail/logfile, I found:

12/29/1997 16:00:01: [m0xmjTt-YCa] |IFS=' '  p=/usr/bin/procmail \
 test -f $p  exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #mario ... director \
dotforward: child of mario insecure, access as 'nobody'
12/29/1997 16:00:01: [m0xmjTt-YCa] Delivered TO:IFS=' '   \
p=/usr/bin/procmail  test -f $p  exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #mario \
ORIG-TO:mario DIRECTOR:dotforward TRANSPORT:pipe

Can somebody help to decipher this for me, please?


[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
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Re: What does 'bo' stand for?

1997-12-29 Thread Michael Stutz
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
  Hi!
  
  I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian
  distribution tree? Binary Something?
 
 Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'.

And what about hamm? Didn't see explanations for either in the FAQ --
would that be a good addition? 

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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Aaron Walker
The problem was:  When I dial into my ISP, I get a prompt that says: host: here 
I
type ppp then my username and password.  How would I get it to type ppp? Would I
just change my ppp.chatscript to say?

ABORTNO DIALTONE
  ATDT7454342
ppp
login  amwalker
password  \qpassword\q

Tim Sailer wrote:

 Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 
  On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:
 
   When I try to dial my ISP using /etc/ppp.chatscript in my ppp.log file I
   get this message:
  
   Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M
   Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address -
   please try again(carrot goes here)M
  
  Do you use pon to connect?
 
  Check if you have debug in /etc/ppp.options_out (or was it in
  /etc/ppp/options ? Better put it in both files, I don't recall if pon uses
  them both). This will give more verbose messages.

 I think he is using pap, and pap-secrets doesn't match the hostname.

  BTW: What does (carrot goes here) mean?

 He means ^M

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Re: What does 'bo' stand for?

1997-12-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Michael Stutz wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:
 
  On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
   Hi!
   
 I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian
   distribution tree? Binary Something?
  
  Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'.
 
 And what about hamm? Didn't see explanations for either in the FAQ --
 would that be a good addition? 

Hamm is another character (a piggy bank).  Also rex, a dinosaur.


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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:

 The problem was:  When I dial into my ISP, I get a prompt that says: host: 
 here I
 type ppp then my username and password.  How would I get it to type ppp? 
 Would I
 just change my ppp.chatscript to say?
 
 ABORTNO DIALTONE
   ATDT7454342
 ppp
 login  amwalker
 password  \qpassword\q

To make this easy look at the left column as what the isp says, and the
right as how you would respond (a column is separated by spaces).  So,
from what you said above, it appears that the isp doesn't give you a login
or password prompt, so it would be:

ABORTNO DIALTONE
   ATDT7454342
host:ppp
   amwalker
   \qpassword\q

Make sense?
Brandon


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Re: What does 'bo' stand for?

1997-12-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote:

: On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Michael Stutz wrote:
: 
:  On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:
:  
:   On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
:Hi!
:
:I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian
:distribution tree? Binary Something?
:   
:   Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'.
:  
:  And what about hamm? Didn't see explanations for either in the FAQ --
:  would that be a good addition? 
: 
: Hamm is another character (a piggy bank).  Also rex, a dinosaur.

... and of course buzz (lightyear).

(Yes, this would all be good FAQ stuff, under lore :)

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.bash_profile and TCP/IP

1997-12-29 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Happy Holidays,

I have a 2 part question and as always I'd appreciate any and all
information!

1:  In my .bash_profile I would like to initiate X everytime I login
at the console but not when logging in remotely.  I experience 2 
problems.

1.  When I merely enter startx in .bash_profile I receive a
short delay, then all my usual X stuff but with an error
appearing in every xterm.

X: you are not authorised to run X server!

2.  Secondly, I wish to start the Xserver only when at my computer
so I tried to enter this into my .bash_profile and I can't get
it to work.  What is wrong with it?

if [ $TERM = console ]; then
startx -- -bpp 16
fi

2:  I am also requesting suggestions for a study guide/brain candy
type book on TCP/IP networking.  If any of the Linux/*nix gurus or
senior system administrators would make a suggestion I'd appreciate
it.

Thanks in advance,

Ian


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Re: loss of xauthority

1997-12-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Martin wrote,
 
  From: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:48:19 +
  Subject: xauth +, not a good idea...
 
 
  If you don't trust every user on your machine, you'll need to learn a bit
  about xauth. xauth list $DISPLAY will list the key for the display
  $DISPLAY.
 
  pianocktail.org/unix:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  
  53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e
 
  Anyone who has that key is authorized to connect to the X server managing
  display $DISPLAY. So say you want to grant user bar access to the display
  that user foo is using, you just do (as bar):
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth add pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
  53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e
 
 curioser and curioser.  I tried this, and it worked--once.  I then
 successfully launched emacs, then lost the ability to change the remote xauth
 entirely. (???).
 
 Getting the sequence from the login xterm, I then type
 pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY
  eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1
 pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth add eyry.econ/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
 684e3c0f4c1e460741426f5272005d0c
 pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY
  eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1

Note: there can be more than one entry for a given host. The 
'/unix' in  'eyry.econ/unix:0' mean that the entry is good for a
unix-domain socket. Unix-domain sockets on work on a single system,
not over the network. Note also that there can be (and generally are)
several entries in an xauth file. By using the construct 
'xauth list $DISPLAY' you are limiting the list printed out to the 
entry for '$DISPLAY'. In fact, if after the above 'add' command you
ran 'xauth list eyry.econ/unix:0' you would see the entry you added.
What you want to do is 'xauth add $DISPLAY ...'. 

 That is, it isn't changing it in the remote system.  However, it does seem to
 work in the root window on the local system.
 
 The remote system is using kerberos if this makes a difference.  I still
 haven't figured out how to get the rpm's for kerberos installed.  This
 prevents me from using rsh, getting pop-3 mail, etc.
 
 I've looked at the telnet man page, and it looks like I could evaluate the
 cookie, put it in a variable, pass this with the environ option, then have the
 remote .cshrc check for the variable, and add it if present.
 
 At the moment, i'm not worried nearly as much about security as in getting
 something to work.  Even xhost + only works for a few seconds.

This is very odd. I'm really wondering how it can work only for a few
seconds. There would have to be something else disabling the perms after
you allowed them. kerberos is orthogonal (in this case, sinc we're using
MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 authorization) to X security and should have no
effect unless you're bringing other programs into the equation--for 
example to get your key across the network--which use kerberos.

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Re: .bash_profile and TCP/IP

1997-12-29 Thread Brandon Mitchell
I believe you can do this by something like the following:
 
  if [ `tty | grep -v ttyp` !=  ]; then
startx
  fi

but I would test it first by replacing startx with echo hello world.
Note, try echo $TERM to see why your other solution didn't work (should
be linux).  This eliminates the problem that .bash_profile is run in a
telnet and by xterms that are told to act like login shells (the way I
like them to act).

Good luck,
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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Aaron Walker
I got it working. Thanks to all that helped. But now another, sorta related 
question...

Now that I can connect to my ISP under Linux, is it possible to connect under 
Linux
then get access from netscape under my Win95 box (their both connected via 
ethernet)?
How would I do this?

Brandon Mitchell wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:

  The problem was:  When I dial into my ISP, I get a prompt that says: host: 
  here I
  type ppp then my username and password.  How would I get it to type ppp? 
  Would I
  just change my ppp.chatscript to say?
 
  ABORTNO DIALTONE
ATDT7454342
  ppp
  login  amwalker
  password  \qpassword\q

 To make this easy look at the left column as what the isp says, and the
 right as how you would respond (a column is separated by spaces).  So,
 from what you said above, it appears that the isp doesn't give you a login
 or password prompt, so it would be:

 ABORTNO DIALTONE
ATDT7454342
 host:ppp
amwalker
\qpassword\q

 Make sense?
 Brandon

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Moment of stupidity... heh.

1997-12-29 Thread Adam Shand

Err, I just ^Z a dpkg -i and killed the process and now of course it tells
me that:

dpkg: status database area is locked - another dpkg/dselect is running

What do I do to fix this?  I was in the middle of installing rc564 so it
wasn't anything mission critical.

TIA,

Adam.


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Bizarre problem.

1997-12-29 Thread Timothy Hospedales
Hey guys! I've got a really *bizarre* problem!!!  When I am using my PPP
dialup connection, I can use everything on the 'net perfectly. EXECEPT,
that I cannot access any dialup IP's in my ISP's domain, including my own.
Any attempt at contacting, using the IPs directly, or via a dyn.ml.org
domain name, with PING's, or various clients fail.
My ISP's domain is 196.3.144.*. The first five IP's (196.3.144.1-5), are
the IPs of my ISP's domain, web, ftp, etc servers. These IP's I can access
fine. Subsequent IP's (6-about 200) are assigned to dialup accounts, I
can't access any of these. :(. 

I've got no idea where to start trying to fix this. :(.
Any ideas at all are appreciated. :).
Thanx,
Timothy


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Re: .bash_profile and TCP/IP

1997-12-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Ian Keith Setford wrote:
 
 Happy Holidays,
 
 I have a 2 part question and as always I'd appreciate any and all
 information!
 
 1:  In my .bash_profile I would like to initiate X everytime I login
 at the console but not when logging in remotely.  I experience 2
 problems.
 
 1.  When I merely enter startx in .bash_profile I receive a
 short delay, then all my usual X stuff but with an error
 appearing in every xterm.
 
 X: you are not authorised to run X server!

This message happens because each xterm is a login session and
therefore the bash reads .bash_profile and executes 'startx'.

 2.  Secondly, I wish to start the Xserver only when at my computer
 so I tried to enter this into my .bash_profile and I can't get
 it to work.  What is wrong with it?
 
 if [ $TERM = console ]; then
 startx -- -bpp 16
 fi

The TERM environment variable describes the terminal type rather than
the device. It isn't what you want. What you want is:

if expr `/usr/bin/tty` : '/dev/tty[0-9]'; then
   exec startx -- -bpp 16
fi

(Make sure you put this *last* in the file.)
Better yet, don't do this at all. Use xdm. It really isn't that scary
to set up and solves all these problems *much* more gracefully in 
addition to closing the security hole of having to make the X server
set-userid root.
 
 2:  I am also requesting suggestions for a study guide/brain candy
 type book on TCP/IP networking.  If any of the Linux/*nix gurus or
 senior system administrators would make a suggestion I'd appreciate
 it.

I the series called something like 'TCP/IP ...' written by Douglas Comer.
I can give you ISBN if you want. Let me know today and I'll write it
down when I go home. It's a three-volume set but just vol. 1 or maybe
also vol. 2 should more than satisfy your needs and desires. 

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Re: .bash_profile and TCP/IP

1997-12-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Ian Keith Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 1:In my .bash_profile I would like to initiate X everytime I login
   at the console but not when logging in remotely.  I experience 2 
   problems.
 
How about using xdm? It will give a X login at the console.
Edit /etc/X11/config to include

xdm-start-server
start-xdm  

Then start xdm with /etc/init.d/xdm start

Ciao,
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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:

 I got it working. Thanks to all that helped. But now another, sorta related 
 question...
 
 Now that I can connect to my ISP under Linux, is it possible to connect under 
 Linux
 then get access from netscape under my Win95 box (their both connected via 
 ethernet)?
 How would I do this?

I believe there is a kernel option called IP_MASQ that you would be
interested in.  However, I haven't done this yet (I plan on it when I
decide how I will connect my boxes together).

Good luck,
Brandon



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Ethernet not starting correctly

1997-12-29 Thread Asher Haig
Once again, I'm having some problems with networking.

I at least got my card working now (was having problems before that I 
fixed by recompiling new kernel and pcmcia modules etc.) but now the 
networking isn't loading correctly when it boots.

When I boot up networking simply doesn't work. eth0 hasn't initialized. 
Yet when I run /etc/init.d/network, it works perfectly from that point. 
What's the deal with it not starting correctly?

One thing I had to change before in /etc/init.d/network was the device 
from pcmcia to eth0. Do I have to do this in other files as well?

TIA

--Asher


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More that 64 Mb memory

1997-12-29 Thread Douglas Bates
I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this
one.  I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory.  When I boot a
standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the
kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory.  Could someone tell me what I
change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory?

Also, this is a dual-processor system.  If I look at /proc/cpuinfo it
seems to be reporting only one processor.  Could someone please remind 
me how to check if both processors are being used?
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Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.

1997-12-29 Thread Brandon Mitchell
Do fg at the prompt where you ^Z'd it.

Brandon

On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

 
 Err, I just ^Z a dpkg -i and killed the process and now of course it tells
 me that:
 
 dpkg: status database area is locked - another dpkg/dselect is running
 
 What do I do to fix this?  I was in the middle of installing rc564 so it
 wasn't anything mission critical.
 
 TIA,
 
 Adam.
 
 
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something wrong with the user-digest?

1997-12-29 Thread Feng Qian
I haven't got any mail from user-digest for a while. Then suddenly got 
this huge mail (1.8M) from the debian-change. Is there anything wrong with
the server?



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Debian vs. Caldera

1997-12-29 Thread Brinsfield, Sean
Hi guys,

I'm new to the Linux scene, actually want to get into the Linux scene
and have two copies that I could start out with, Debian 1.3.1 and
Caldera OpenLinux Standard.  Please tell me which flavor would be best
for a newbie and why.  I'm excited about Linux and ready to get rolling
with it.



Sean Brinsfield 
Network Analyst
City of Little Rock, AR
501-371-4696
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Unidentified subject!

1997-12-29 Thread Feng Qian

I am using MI/X on both win95 and mac. I remembered there were some
problems to install MI/X for win95. It seemed you need two files from the
Micrographics in order to decompress the file0001.bin. Anyhow, my copy
works fine on a win95 machine. I suggest you go to the micrographics home
page to get the new version and there is a very helpful FAQ too.

Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:13:41 -0800
From: Ronald L. Zerbe Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Help with using a remote xserver

 I use a different server, but try  DISPLAY=powermac:0; export DISPLAY 
from a telnet prompt in yur linux box. Then xterm or what ever, speaking
of
MI/X i just d/led the free version, (win95) and the file0001.bin is
password
protected, i cant get it to install, emailed microimage about it, but no
answer.
I also d/l it twice incase of bad file but still same problem. the setup
program after u run getme1st sees it and starts to install but never
uncompressed the file? Anyhelp? tired of this win95 Xserver that only
gives
u 30 minute connections.

RZ

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Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.

1997-12-29 Thread Adam Shand

 Do fg at the prompt where you ^Z'd it.

Uh, I realise that.  I ^Z'd it and *killed* the process.  It's no longer
running.  There is now a stale lock file and I need to know where it's
kept so that I can delete it.

Thanks,

Adam.

  Err, I just ^Z a dpkg -i and killed the process and now of course it tells
  me that:
  
  dpkg: status database area is locked - another dpkg/dselect is running
  
  What do I do to fix this?  I was in the middle of installing rc564 so it
  wasn't anything mission critical.
  
  TIA,
  
  Adam.
  
  
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Re: More that 64 Mb memory

1997-12-29 Thread Scott Ellis
On 29 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote:

 I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this
 one.  I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory.  When I boot a
 standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the
 kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory.  Could someone tell me what I
 change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory?

In /etc/lilo.conf:
append=mem=128M

 Also, this is a dual-processor system.  If I look at /proc/cpuinfo it
 seems to be reporting only one processor.  Could someone please remind 
 me how to check if both processors are being used?

Uncomment the SMP=1 line in the kernel makefile and rebuild your kernel.

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Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.

1997-12-29 Thread Scott Ellis
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

 
  Do fg at the prompt where you ^Z'd it.
 
 Uh, I realise that.  I ^Z'd it and *killed* the process.  It's no longer
 running.  There is now a stale lock file and I need to know where it's
 kept so that I can delete it.

rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/{lock,methlock}

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Re: More that 64 Mb memory

1997-12-29 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On 29 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote:

 I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this
 one.  I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory.  When I boot a
 standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the
 kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory.  Could someone tell me what I
 change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory?

Should be something like MEM=128 appended to the lilo prompt (e.g.
LILO: linux MEM=128).

Good luck,
Brandon


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Re: More that 64 Mb memory

1997-12-29 Thread Will Lowe
On 29 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote:

 I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this
 one.  I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory.  When I boot a
 standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the
 kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory.  Could someone tell me what I
 change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory?
You need an append line in /etc/lilo.conf; probably mem=128M...
checkout the bootprompt-howto at

ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/bootprompt-HOWTO

Will


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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Tim Thomson
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

 I believe there is a kernel option called IP_MASQ that you would be
 interested in.  However, I haven't done this yet (I plan on it when I
 decide how I will connect my boxes together).

Yes! I use it on my system here. My Win3.11 machine acts basically as it
did with the modem in it, but all my systems can access at the same time.
I have a feeling that the Win3.11 machine responds faster, as recieving
one fast packet over ethernet, rather than recieving lots of bytes over
modem and then having to put together a SLIP packet would be less
processor intensive???

Anyway, I recommend IP Masquerading, You need to recompile your kernel
though, and add IP_MASQ. After compilation, you type two lines, to set it
up and you're away!!! I was thinking it would be difficult, but just I
just followed the HOWTO, and it was very easy!!

Hope this helps,

Tim

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Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-29 Thread Cleto Pescia
   My current Debian system is off FTP sites. I am looking to buy Debian on
 CD when the next version comes out with libc6 standardized. What are the
 pro's and con's have you guys noticed for the different vendors?

For now, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that you should *NOT*
buy the Debian CDs from Greenbush Technologies Corp. (www.greenbush.com).

I ordered the official CD set in September by filling out their
secure on-line form, they charged my credit card (at least that is what
I've seen on my bank's reports), but never shipped anything... I sent them
e-mail twice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), politely asking them what was going on,
but never got an answer. Maybe I should have sent them a fax as well, but
you really expect a company with an online ordering system to have some
way to read its e-mail...

Cleto


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Re: Bizarre problem.

1997-12-29 Thread Tim Thomson
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Timothy Hospedales wrote:

   Hey guys! I've got a really *bizarre* problem!!!  When I am using my PPP
 dialup connection, I can use everything on the 'net perfectly. EXECEPT,
 that I cannot access any dialup IP's in my ISP's domain, including my own.
 Any attempt at contacting, using the IPs directly, or via a dyn.ml.org
 domain name, with PING's, or various clients fail.

type ifconfig
This lists your interfaces and should give you your IP address that your
system is listening on. Look for inet addr under ppp0, try pinging that
address - that should work.

As they are dial-up systems : maybe they aren't logged on???

Hope this helps,

Tim.

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oh my god the listserv is stuffed.. =)

1997-12-29 Thread forrest
Howdy... 

I subscribed here about .. 2 months ago.. since then i had
to unsubscribe as i've been to busy lately..

When i unsubscribed, i was told that an error occurered, and
i was never even on the mailing list.. ok, i thought, it's
fine, i'm not getting any more mail, it's taken me off the
list.

Today i got a *1.8meg* back-catalog of what's happened in the 
last month.. argh!!

If someone knows what's going on, could ya please help? =)

TIA, Damien


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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:06:58PM -0500, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:
  password  \qpassword\q
\qpassword\q

Incidentally, you don't want the second \q; it will turn echo to the log
back on, and the password WILL then go into the log.


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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread john
Brandon writes:
 ABORTNO DIALTONE
ATDT7454342
 host:ppp
amwalker
\qpassword\q


Better:

ABORT   NO DIALTONE
ABORT   NO CARRIER
ABORT   VOICE
ABORT   BUSY
  ATZ
OK  ATDT7454342
CONNECT 
host:   \dppp
login   \damwalker
password\d\qpassword

This tells chat to:

a) Abort on receipt of the report strings NO DIALTONE, NO CARRIER,
   VOICE, or BUSY.

b) Expect nothing and send ATZ, resetting the modem to its default state.
   This is usually factory programmed to the best configuration for ppp.  
   If yours is different, replace ATZ with an appropriate init string.

c) Expect OK, which is what a reset modem should say, and send the phone
   number.

d) Expect CONNECT, which is what the modem says when it gets carrier, and
   send nothing.

e) Expect the string host: and send ppp after a 1 second delay (the
   \d tells chat to delay 1 second).

f) Expect login and send amwalker after a 1 second delay.

g) Expect password and send the password after a 1 second delay, and
   don't write it to the log file (the \q suppresses writing to the log).

I put the one second delays in because I've found that some isp's can't
handle an immediate response.  I left out the \q after the password
because it doesn't belong there.  Its presence in the example file is an
error.

You should also test to see if your isp supports pap.  To do this just
delete everything on the chatscript after the word CONNECT, set up your
pap-secrets file, and try it.
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Re: Bizarre problem.

1997-12-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 04:41:52PM +, Timothy Hospedales wrote:
   Hey guys! I've got a really *bizarre* problem!!!  When I am using my PPP
 dialup connection, I can use everything on the 'net perfectly. EXECEPT,
 that I cannot access any dialup IP's in my ISP's domain, including my own.
 Any attempt at contacting, using the IPs directly, or via a dyn.ml.org
 domain name, with PING's, or various clients fail.
   My ISP's domain is 196.3.144.*. The first five IP's (196.3.144.1-5), are
 the IPs of my ISP's domain, web, ftp, etc servers. These IP's I can access
 fine. Subsequent IP's (6-about 200) are assigned to dialup accounts, I
 can't access any of these. :(. 

It sounds like some sort of firewall.


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Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-29 Thread Mark W. Blunier
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Cleto Pescia wrote:

 For now, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that you should *NOT*
 buy the Debian CDs from Greenbush Technologies Corp. (www.greenbush.com).
 
 I ordered the official CD set in September by filling out their
 secure on-line form, they charged my credit card (at least that is what
 I've seen on my bank's reports), but never shipped anything... I sent them
 e-mail twice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), politely asking them what was going on,
 but never got an answer. Maybe I should have sent them a fax as well, but
 you really expect a company with an online ordering system to have some
 way to read its e-mail...

I had similar problems.  I ordered the monthly disk for 3 months.  A
couple of months after I go charged I hadn't any CDs.  I emailed them.
Paul Wade replied that he had send sent out a couple of disks, but he
would send a 'free' replacement.  I received that CD, but nothing more.

Mark
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Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux

1997-12-29 Thread wnpp

Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
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$Id: packages.sgml,v 1.64 1997/12/29 23:13:55 johnie Exp $

1.  General Questions

1.1.  Before reading this document

You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/.

1.2.  Purpose of this document

This document is intended to identify areas that need your
contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ.

1.3.  Getting newer versions of this document

Newer versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:

  o  http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html

  o  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-
   packages.txt

  o  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-
   packages.html

1.4.  Feedback

Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP
maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please mention to which version of this
document your comments refer.

Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're
talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re: Work-
Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject line
reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on barpackage.
Thanks.

2.  Recent Changes

2.1.  Since version 1.63 1997/12/22

  o  Frederic Lepied mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working
   on xmbdfed, a powerful X11 font editor.

  o  Boris D. Beletsky mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on a
   Scheme-C translator.

  o  Glimpse has been adopted by Marco Budde
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].

  o  Herbert Xu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has taken over
   netpbm and chimera.

  o  Andreas Franzen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has
   adopted xarclock.

  o  New maintainer Adam P. Harris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is
   adopting addressbook.

  o  Igor Grobman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on xbattleball.

3.  Orphaned packages

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Re: couldn't match host name or address

1997-12-29 Thread Aaron Walker
Does it really matter? On my machine, the only person that can view the logs,
is root.

Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:06:58PM -0500, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
  On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote:
   password  \qpassword\q
 \qpassword\q

 Incidentally, you don't want the second \q; it will turn echo to the log
 back on, and the password WILL then go into the log.

 hamish
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Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.

1997-12-29 Thread Adam Shand

That's what I was after.  Thank you very much.

Adam.

  Uh, I realise that.  I ^Z'd it and *killed* the process.  It's no longer
  running.  There is now a stale lock file and I need to know where it's
  kept so that I can delete it.
 
 rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/{lock,methlock}
 
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