Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)
Hi all! Thanks to the ones, who helped me with my smail configuration problem. (Martin Bialasinski, David Stern and Bob Nielsen) But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all. Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now, I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone company) has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the From: field is not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails). Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news server? Using an other newsreader? Thanks in advance! Daniel Gross -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What does 'bo' stand for?
Hi! I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian distribution tree? Binary Something? Thanx for your support -- Pancho Horrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What does 'bo' stand for?
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote: Hi! I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian distribution tree? Binary Something? Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / /Erfahrung ist eine nützliche Sache / / Leider macht man sie immer erst kurz nachdem man sie brauchte / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
LibGif2
Does anyone out there know where I can get libgif2? Preferably in .deb form? Apparently I need it to be able to install KDE Thanks --Asher -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What does 'bo' stand for?
According to Pancho Horrillo: Hi! I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian distribution tree? Binary Something? Thanx for your support -- Pancho Horrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] A very good question: bo stands for bo as in bo peep a character from Toy Story. These names were chosen as Bruce P. works for Pixar creaters of Toy Story... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Say yes to: LINUX-= Geoff Kuchera Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8441 Egret Ct. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chanhassen, MN 55317 Friends don't let friends do DOS... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LibGif2
Asher Haig wrote: Does anyone out there know where I can get libgif2? Preferably in .deb form? Apparently I need it to be able to install KDE Thanks --Asher The KDELIB file should contain this file Brett Wildermoth EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Has anyone managed to compile amanda for bo?
I am trying to set up amanda for our network. I have a Debian bo machine on it. I can't seem to get amanda going. The original distribution core dumpps while runing configure! It's trying tocheck for dump =E at the time BTW. There is a package for hamm, bit it has a dependency (I forget which one) that I don;t have. The source package won;t extract cleanly :-( So I wonder if I am the only person in the world trying to get it to work. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]770-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: getting started in Xwin (Help)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:35:55 GMT, Rick wrote: Matrox Mystique II, 4mb Getting vga mode to work should be pretty simple. The only reason svga might not be as easy is that I dunno if your vid card is supported and it'd be advisable to find out your monitor specs. Anyway, this is how I'd do it: snip The Matrox Millenium II isn't supported by the version of xfree86 that ships with Debian bo (1.3.1). However, it is supported by a later version of Xfree86, so you can get it to work; basically, what I did was install xbase, xvga16, xsvga, then I went through and set up a vga system more or less as David Stern described. I then downloaded the XFree86 binaries from the XFree86 site and installed them on top of the Debian stuff. I posted a message a bit back describing this procedure in detail - I still have a copy somewhere, and can send that along if the mailing list archives are still in disarray. (Does the search engine work yet? If not, does anyone in charge of it care?) (I was doing this because I have a Matrox Mystique 220, for which the situation is similar in terms of which X supports it.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hang on bootup
Here's the latest... On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:06:59PM -0700, Jason and Heather wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 10:26:13AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my system, this line results in a 10 second freeze up, and then Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card! Thanks for the info. I don't have a SCSI card in my computer, so I'm not too surprised it isn't working. That appears to be it. Someone compiled a bare-bones kernel for me that managed to get past this problem. I don't think some of the other options were the same though, because after booting, it gave me: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem). VFS: Cannot open root device 03:41 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:41 It looks like it might be trying to mount the root on , but how it got that, I don't know. Any suggestions? If possible, I'd like to keep the standard kernel and just tell it to skip probing for SCSI devices, since I know that's the problem now. jason -- The man who marries a modern woman marries a woman who expects to vote like a man, smoke like a man, have her hair cut like a man, and go without restrictions and without chaperones and obey nobody. BOBBED HAIR - John R. Rice, 1941 http://www.primenet.com/~steiners/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: none
Timothy Hospedales [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know what the story is with JDK? .According to my packages file, the stable debian packages is ver 1.0.2.. Sun recently released ver 1.2 (For Solaris/Windoze).. Is the package behind because Sun hasn't released any / any stable versions for linux beyond 1.0.2, or because the package hasn't been updated, or what? Yes. That is, there's a more up to date jdk package (with a different and to my way of thinking better organization) in hamm, and last I checked Sun wasn't releasing any java stuff for linux - the linux-java things are ported from the Sun reference implementation. This means there is always a delay beyond the normal packaging delay as a new release is first ported to Linux, and then packaged for Debian. By the way, the hamm jdk package installs and runs just fine on my all-libc5 (bo) system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dpkg
Timothy Hospedales wrote: IS there a dpkg option to list all the installed packages? dpkg -l since it keeps track of what is installed, I presume there must be some file somewhere which has them listed in it, anyone happen to know which file that is? /var/lib/dpkg/status -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect ftp
Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all. A brief question, which I suspect may require a verbose answer... Is there a way to install debain using ftp on a dial-up connection? I suspect one may have to install ppp support from an alternate console before dselect will work, but is there a recognised way of doing this? Thanks in advance, Rob. Yes, but I will put in a warning about the incredible SLOWNESS of this procedure. A basic ppp is installed with the current bo disks - just do the disk-based install to the point where you've set the root password, etc., and are about to be dumped into dselect. Then switch to another console (alt-F2), log in as root, and get your ppp setup working - often, this is just a matter of editing /etc/ppp.chatscript to suit your ISP and typing 'pon'. (You may need to edit /etc/ppp.options_out as well) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
George Bonser wrote: I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is GPLed and looks like a good idea. Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable currently use it. The basic concept is that each package contains config files that live in /etc/X11/wmconfig that define the menu entry in a generic way. The user can also override those entries in their home directory (~/.wmconfig). Check, menu is the same. (though the files go in /usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu, and ~/.menu/) There is then an app called 'wmconfig' that processes the information in all those files into window manager specific menu entries (it is a C program that is architected to be modular in nature...it can currently handle fvwm2, afterstep, and mwm style output). Ah, I think menu is better here. Menu implements a specialized programming language. You write a config file in this language, which makes it output config files for a window manager. This is more easily modified by the end-user, becuase you don't have to recompile anything. have to use some help to get that data into a config file...in RH we use fvwm2's m4 pre-processing to do it. You could hack any WM pretty easily to support this. Debian's menu package is already supported by: pdmenu (not even a window manager, just a menu program) afterstep dwww (not a window manager either) fvwm2 fvwm95 gnome icewm kde olvwm olwm wm2 wmaker The key is that the data is generic and should be easy to deal with by another external program. I'd be interested to know what data format they use. Debian's menu package is designed to use an extensible format, composed of key and value pairs. So you can very easily add new fields if you need them. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is GPLed and looks like a good idea. Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable currently use it. And surely the RH solution works only with X programs..! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is GPLed and looks like a good idea. Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable currently use it. And surely the RH solution works only with X programs..! That's a good point, the debian one can be used for X programs, text programs, and can even (if you're sneaky) bounce you out of X to run svgalib stuff and return to X when done. Oh, and it is used for menus of html documentation too.. Abritrary new typres of programs can be added easily as well. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
George Bonser wrote: How do you make the debian menus work with a text display? I have never seen such a menu. What command do you run do display such a menu on a text terminal session? You use a program such as pdmenu[1], which displays menus on a text display. It's a debian package, install pdmenu and menu and type pdmenu, and you'll see it. -- see shy jo [1] I wrote it. :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)
. . . I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull newsgroups, and read it offline. There are (of course) several ways to do this. I use suck, which downloads news and stores it on a local news spool. This is probably more work than you want to bother with. I suggest you look at slrn, which comes with slrnpull, a program that downloads articles locally but does *not* require you to set up innd on your computer. There are other choices (leafnode, slirp) out there as well. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
If anyone here is known on the Caldera/Red Hat lists we should ask them to post a follow up to the original message. If we could get some element of standarization between Debian/Red Hat/Caldera it would be [IMHO] a Good Thing. Someone want to voluenteer? Adam. Internet Alaska - 4050 Lake Otis Adam Shand(v) +1 907 562 4638 Anchorage, AlaskaSystems Administrator (f) +1 907 562 1677 - http://larry.earthlight.co.nz -- On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Joey Hess wrote: George Bonser wrote: I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is GPLed and looks like a good idea. Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable currently use it. The basic concept is that each package contains config files that live in /etc/X11/wmconfig that define the menu entry in a generic way. The user can also override those entries in their home directory (~/.wmconfig). Check, menu is the same. (though the files go in /usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu, and ~/.menu/) There is then an app called 'wmconfig' that processes the information in all those files into window manager specific menu entries (it is a C program that is architected to be modular in nature...it can currently handle fvwm2, afterstep, and mwm style output). Ah, I think menu is better here. Menu implements a specialized programming language. You write a config file in this language, which makes it output config files for a window manager. This is more easily modified by the end-user, becuase you don't have to recompile anything. have to use some help to get that data into a config file...in RH we use fvwm2's m4 pre-processing to do it. You could hack any WM pretty easily to support this. Debian's menu package is already supported by: pdmenu (not even a window manager, just a menu program) afterstep dwww (not a window manager either) fvwm2 fvwm95 gnome icewm kde olvwm olwm wm2 wmaker The key is that the data is generic and should be easy to deal with by another external program. I'd be interested to know what data format they use. Debian's menu package is designed to use an extensible format, composed of key and value pairs. So you can very easily add new fields if you need them. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Printing problem solved
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, David Stern wrote: with your resources. DejaNews (http://www.dejanews.com) searches the Debian List, so if you have a question which you think is likely to be common (I'd imagine configuring a deskjet is somewhat common), you might try searching the list archives there--Debian doesn't have their own search engine. [..] [..snipped message asking where debian-users was at on dejanews..] I appear to have stuck my foot in my mouth. Sorry about that. I've used dejanews, and I have access to the linux.debian.users newsgroup via my nntp server, but I've never used them both together. I did find a few messages posted to linux.debian.users at dejanews, so it's possible that it used to be there, but I can't say for sure. I also found the linux.debian.* heirarchy, but debian-users wasn't there. Would someone in the know please give us the scoop on dejanews and debian-users? If dejanews doesn't have debian-users, why is the rest of the debian list heirarchy there? What would it take to get dejanews to carry debian-users? -- David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
George Bonser wrote: Hey! Way cool! I had pdmenu but had never used it. Now ... if only more programs put themselves into the menuing system ... :( File wishlist bugs, and upgrade to hamm, which has far more programs using it than did bo (if you're still using bo, that is..). -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
Adam Shand wrote: If anyone here is known on the Caldera/Red Hat lists we should ask them to post a follow up to the original message. If we could get some element of standarization between Debian/Red Hat/Caldera it would be [IMHO] a Good Thing. Someone want to voluenteer? Not me, but FWIW, I thisk SuSE has it's own version of this too -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
accelx question
has anyone installed accelx 4.1 on a bo system. I have a copy and wanted to install it. But the last time I did it rendered Xfree unusable. It ate the kb database. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: accelx question
has anyone installed accelx 4.1 on a bo system. I have a copy and wanted to install it. But the last time I did it rendered Xfree unusable. It ate the kb database. It's a feature of AX 4.1. Next time before installing AX, backup you /etc/X11 directory and restore after installation. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
redirection for netscape conference
Hi, I want to run Netscape Conference on a PC behind an IP masquerading firewall, to talk to the real world. So I need something to redirect the ports. I've looked at redir; I start it up standalone on the three ports Netscape wants to use, but it seems to die straight away. This is not good. I couldn't get it to redirect to another host at all in inetd mode; it seems to get some garbage for the host name and give up. The description for socket says it can redirect ports to another host but neither the manual page nor the README give any suggestions as to how this might be accomplished. Any suggestions? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: In the interests of standardation ...
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Joey Hess wrote: George Bonser wrote: Hey! Way cool! I had pdmenu but had never used it. Now ... if only more programs put themselves into the menuing system ... :( File wishlist bugs, and upgrade to hamm, which has far more programs using it than did bo (if you're still using bo, that is..). Indeed, writing menu entries isn't difficult --- about thirty seconds worth of thought it all that's required. Even though this means that package maintainers should have no reason _not_ to include menu entries, this makes it entirely possible for the person filing the wishlist bug to include a suggested menu file contents -- the maintainer has to do even less thinking and is therefore more likely to include it in the next release. If someone who hasn't used menu before has to figure it out for the one package they maintain, they may not bother... Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- |If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. | | -- Taken from Hennesey and Patterson,| | _Computer_Organization_And_Design_:_The_Hardware_/_Software_Interface_ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail / fetchmail and ppp problems
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Ok. I've narrowed it down -- smail doesn't like mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- if I tell fetchmail to use procmail as the delivery agent, everything is fine, but otherwise sendmail seems to send itself into infinite loops trying to deliver to localhost and then it just returns too many hops errors. Try to add localhost to the hostname= line in /etc/smail/config. Like hostname=localhost:foo:foo.domain.com Yes. Thanks -- I discovered this early this morning. Shouldn't smailconfig automatically assume that hostname=localhost:foo:foo.domain.com should be added in /etc/smail/config? The only way to do this currently is to answer the Is this system known by any other names? question with Yes; localhost ... is there a case where you _wouldn't_ want this, and if so, is it a _default_ one? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- |If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. | | -- Taken from Hennesey and Patterson,| | _Computer_Organization_And_Design_:_The_Hardware_/_Software_Interface_ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problems with NFSD?
I have just upgraded my Debian 1.2 to the latest bleeding edge stuff using HAMM, and have found that my nfsd appears to occasionally go into oblivion for no apparent reason. I have to stop and restart (using /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs) periodically as things just hang on the client machines. Has anyone else experienced this? I have tried turning on the debugging option but have yet to see anything that appears to be relevant in the logs. --Bill. -- William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1803 Mission St. #339voicemail +1 408/479-4072 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458-8862 PGP Key 0x2BD331E5; Public key at http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/pubkey.txt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Printing problem solved
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 19:59:52 PST, George Bonser wrote: I really would not want to see debian-user on deja news ... deja-news is a spam harvester's dream. If deja-news picks it up, I would want to see all articles from the gateway have an X-No-Archive: yes header inserted so that the articles are ignored by deja-news. I sometimes post an article to the newsgroups that I WANT saved in the deja-news archives so I remove the X-No-Archive header in my news posting I am then deluged with spam for about two weeks until I get all the spammers into my exim filters and databases. Unless ALL search engines are harvested by spammers (i.e.: forget dejanews), the foregoing is beside the point of my intent, which is essentially: What will it take to get a (any) search function for debian-user? Or conversely, what is blocking a search function from being implemented? Or does a search function plan already exist? .. -- David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Printing problem solved
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, David Stern wrote: essentially: What will it take to get a (any) search function for debian-user? Or conversely, what is blocking a search function from being implemented? Or does a search function plan already exist? .. Well, you can hit the archives at www.debian.org and search _them_ with something simple like Netscape's find ... Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- |If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. | | -- Taken from Hennesey and Patterson,| | _Computer_Organization_And_Design_:_The_Hardware_/_Software_Interface_ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
netmask
Is a netmask of 255.255.255.128 (ie half a class C) 25 bits of address, ie a /28 designator for tools that use that form of netmask? I think it should but have never really known the rules for this. I figure 32 bits is one host (255.255.255.255), 24 bits is a class C (255.255.255.0); half of a class C is one less bit used within the network, ie 25. ipfwadm likes this form of netmask. thanks. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netmask
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is a netmask of 255.255.255.128 (ie half a class C) 25 bits of address, ie a /28 designator for tools that use that form of netmask? Yes, it's 25 bits, but it's not a /28, it's a /25 ofcourse .. Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | Studying to be a technomage * [EMAIL PROTECTED] | May you live in interesting times -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netmask
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 01:09:16PM +0100, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is a netmask of 255.255.255.128 (ie half a class C) 25 bits of address, ie a /28 designator for tools that use that form of netmask? Yes, it's 25 bits, but it's not a /28, it's a /25 ofcourse .. Of course. Thanks for your help. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Changing the domain
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Maybe a /etc/domain is there for NIS/YP? Exactly. And to change the domainname, you need to change: /etc/resolv.conf /etc/hosts The latter should contain at the ip address of each of the hosts interfaces. Nils -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNKe4z1ptA0IhBm0NAQHkBwL/RjhMWJJOS3SbsX8c/CXZ/uS1/cSLYRgp PrqEgE/IyPcQ6pUbx5O5weI/MkLD2aYSRfi4DwC+34ne9O8eYdZ8nMZsBSjebN+r jFuABtFrXwuxY8u/ce2MECjvwRCi2E8H =y21p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
loss of xauthority
I'm stumped again. I've lost my ability to control xhost for more than a minute or so. This is fairly recent. my xhost + . . . line in .xsession used to let me specify my common hosts, including localhost. No longer. It is necessary to do an xhost + immediately before a program tries to open an xwindow. ANd for each additional attempt. I don't *think* i did anything to bring on this change. WHile I'm at it, should I be using something other than xhost? the fm's i rt 'd seem to suggest I should be using magic cookies instead. rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
sendmail relay against spam on debian
Greetings, I have two Debian boxes that sit on my Network. The network is host to about 100 domains. Along with acting as the DNS for the network, the two boxes also act as MX relay for all of the domains. The problem is someone out there found my boxes and used them to dump spam. Have disabled the relay feature, but this is causing problems for my domain users. I would like to reinstate this feature, but want to limit who these boxes sendmail to. I want to me able to relay mail to all of my domains, but not to relay mail to anyone else. But I do wish to accept mail from the universe, to relay to my domains. I have read the information about configuring sendmail, spam and all that other stuff. I must say that my head is spinning. Has anyone else out there resolved this problem, and would be willing to hold my hand while I institute it on my two debian boxes? Thanks, Anthony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Offline news access
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Daniel Gross wrote: But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all. Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now, I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone company) has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the From: field is not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails). You can configure your From: field in tin's option. Press M in the group listing. Option 88 is your mailaddress. Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news server? Using an other newsreader? I use leafnode as a newsserver and gnus as my newsreader. Once you have told leafnode what your upstrem newsserver is, you don't have to bother with it any more. It will do the Right Thing(tm) itself. You just fetch new articles when you are online (e.g. in ip-up) and texpire to get rid of old ones (already a daily cronjob). Leafnode does see what groups you are interested in (when you enter them) and will fetch these articles. If you don't enter a group for a week (default), leafnode assumes you are not interested in this group any more and stops fetching it. Unfortunatly due to the way tin works, leafnode doesn't see which group you enter for the first time, so you can't use tin with leafnode. You could give gnus (the (x)emacs newsreader) a try, but be warned, that it has a somewhat steeper learning curve (but has a great info manual). It is also more powerfull than tin. You can even make it read your mail. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: paths and su
On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Tim Ferrell wrote: Nope, I double checked this to be sure. I have only aliases in my bashrc files (global, user, and root). I am inclined to think that this is being set by a default config file somewhere though, because of the inclusion of /usr/bin/X11 - I always refer to this dir as /usr/X11r6/bin. Any other thoughts? How about the hard way ? find /etc /home -type f | xargs grep /usr/bin/X11 /tmp/find.x11 Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: When I try to dial my ISP using /etc/ppp.chatscript in my ppp.log file I get this message: Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address - please try again(carrot goes here)M Do you use pon to connect? Check if you have debug in /etc/ppp.options_out (or was it in /etc/ppp/options ? Better put it in both files, I don't recall if pon uses them both). This will give more verbose messages. BTW: What does (carrot goes here) mean? You should also post your /etc/ppp.chatscript and your /etc/ppp.options_out file. How do you log in? Terminal login, PAP, CHAP? Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is it possible to start X Windows in multiple V/C .
On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Lazar Fleysher wrote: ~/startx -- :1 _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running Did you check that there isn't already a server on display :1 as suggested by the error message? ps -ax |grep /usr/X11R6/bin/X Also there might be a stale lockfile due to a servercrash. Check for /tmp/.X1-lock and /tmp/.X11-unix/X1= and delete them. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail / fetchmail and ppp problems
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Will Lowe wrote: Shouldn't smailconfig automatically assume that hostname=localhost:foo:foo.domain.com should be added in /etc/smail/config? The only way to do this currently is to answer the Is this system known by any other names? question with Yes; localhost ... is there a case where you _wouldn't_ want this, and if so, is it a _default_ one? Hmm, good point. File a bugreport then will see what the packagemaintainer thinks about this. I think noone thought that there could be a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] coming in at the smtp port. And local mail seems to be handled differently (AFAIK, smail is black magic to me :-) Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
Martin Bialasinski wrote: On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: When I try to dial my ISP using /etc/ppp.chatscript in my ppp.log file I get this message: Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address - please try again(carrot goes here)M Do you use pon to connect? Check if you have debug in /etc/ppp.options_out (or was it in /etc/ppp/options ? Better put it in both files, I don't recall if pon uses them both). This will give more verbose messages. I think he is using pap, and pap-secrets doesn't match the hostname. BTW: What does (carrot goes here) mean? He means ^M Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Nihil illegitemi carborvndvm. --anon ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
off topics, seaching for cheap stuff..
Hello everybody.., can some one here suggest me sites on the net where I can buy cheap computer hardwares, somebody suggest me a good site a week ago, where I can buy things very very cheap, something like a brand new sony 17 monitor for around $300, but I accidentally deleted my netscape user profiles and lost everything, the worst is that I can not remember the url... if some one out there know it please help me.. thanks kusuma -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help on printers
I have an IP address of 56.88.7.156 on my network at work. My printer IP address (HP Jetdirect card) is 192.0.0.192. How can I talk to it? Brian Schramm -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X-Server
I'm planning to set up my first Debian box from the InfoMagic collection sometime in the next few weeks. I have a choice between XF86 and Metro-X X-Servers. I'm using a Number Nine 9FX Reality 332 card with 2MB. Any recommendations, pros, cons, etc. Also, any recommendations, pros, cons, etc for window managers would be appreciated. TIA Glenn Scherb Programmer Analyst Midwest Research Institute 425 Volker Boulevard Kansas City, Missouri 64110 (816)753-7600 x1806 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mriresearch.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Grey Screen After Starting XF86
I've configured XF86 (correctly I think) but evertime I try to start it with the X command, I get a grey screen and an X cursor. Nothing happens after that. try 'startx' instead. Can anybody help? I hope this helps. GK. cu -- Philipp Frauenfelder [PGP] home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Tel./Fax: +41 1 850 54 64school: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Full Root
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, Anthony Landreneau wrote: My root partition, of 400 megs is full. The partition /usr and that of /var are all on their own partition. I have looked in every directory for a core file, and have scanned for viruses. There is no reason that the root partition should be filled to capacity and I can't seem to find the reason that it is. Fsck, shows the drive as find. Any help in this matter would be much appreciated. A file that had been deleted, but is still opened by some process (e.g. a daemon) will still occupy space until the last process that has a file descriptor open will close it. So if all else fails, see if rebooting makes any difference. Nils -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNKfP4VptA0IhBm0NAQFmYQL+NBLm513FjE2QMnKlFHT0mpTZsqltziUb p1eQ7WfyNoQZVIH7QsT4oRUhSQJBqthRGu7MWWlog/HWYLIo1wbo6QxoBy8dqCEp k5OLgTfdIeAPdu3tTZddA13DHtVjzMts =VmjD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: changing domain name
Aaron Walker wrote: How would I go about changing my domain name? Thanks for your help. From your earlier message I'm guessing that you want to assign a real, live DNS name to your machine as opposed to changing what your machine thinks it is. You need to contact the holders of the DNS zone you wish to have yourself added to. This is generally your ISP. They may or may not charge you a one-time or on-going fee for this service. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl
Running hamm I tried to install the various Linux Gazette packages. However, they depend on libwww-perl. Fine, but after selecting libwww-perl it says it needs libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl and these are nowhere to be found. Anyone know what the status is of these packages? Thanks in advance. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Randy Edwards wrote: Running hamm I tried to install the various Linux Gazette packages. However, they depend on libwww-perl. Fine, but after selecting libwww-perl it says it needs libmd5-perl and libmime-base64-perl and these are nowhere to be found. Anyone know what the status is of these packages? Thanks in advance. Yep, they're stuck in incoming, a mirror of which is at ftp1.us.debian.org/pub/debian/Incoming -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian on CD.
My current Debian system is off FTP sites. I am looking to buy Debian on CD when the next version comes out with libc6 standardized. What are the pro's and con's have you guys noticed for the different vendors? Thanks, Timothy. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address - please try again(carrot goes here)M I think he is using pap, and pap-secrets doesn't match the hostname. I also though in that direction, but shouldn't pppd report this not chat? Therefore my question about the authentication method. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)
Daniel Gross wrote: Hi all! Thanks to the ones, who helped me with my smail configuration problem. (Martin Bialasinski, David Stern and Bob Nielsen) But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all. Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now, I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone company) has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the From: field is not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails). Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news server? Using an other newsreader? Thanks in advance! Daniel Gross You can also use pnf which is like suck. To quote the README: PNF is Personal News Fetcher. It's intended use is similar to that of suck, that is, to get articles to feed a small news spool. PNF came into existence during the late summer of 1996 to cope with the frequent news problems my ISP was having, the most challenging to suck being an intermittently broken history database. Because of suck's method of avoiding re-downloading cross-posts, it downloads with HEAD/BODY/ARTICLE Message-ID NNTP commands. Since Message-ID based commands depend on a good history database, an alternative was necessary. The well-known perl 'seen' hash array idiom was employed to get an as-you-go duplicate checker, and when combined with Rodger Anderson's NNTPClient module, the immediate problem was handled in surprisingly short order. ... PNF now does more or less what suck does, plus some other things that may give it reason to exist beyond its current home. It can send articles directly to an NNTP server through IHAVE, avoiding intermediate storing and batching. It can pipe an rnews batch to a program, say, pnews_expand from Jim Buchanan's pnews package, again avoiding storing. Because of its newsreader-like downloading approach, it accomodates the use by ISPs of reader-only machines with nnrpds with their history shorted out (Who could that have been?). Finally, and most telling I think, it's written in Perl! :-) ( Egil Kvaleberg's NewsX does IHAVE and rnews to a pipe, and other nifty things, among them many features targeted for bigger setups than PNF is meant for. You can run a multiuser news spool with NewsX. You probably couldn't with PNF.) The only drawback is that pnf isn't a debian package. I had no trouble getting it to work. Check comp.os.linux.announce archive for more details. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SLRN problem
I'm running a bo system and have just installed slrn (and slrnpull). No problems with the install, or setting up slrnpull to query the NNTP server at my ISP. I can see in the log that articles are being pulled down, and I can see them spread about under /var/spool/slrnpull/news. I've RTFMed README, README.Debian, QUICK_INSTALL, and INSTALL, edited .slrnrc appropriately (I believe), BUT . . . When I invoke 'slrn --spool' I have no newsgroups listed. I'm sure it's something simple but I'm missing it. Help, please. Thanks. Cheers, Pann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: loss of xauthority
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stumped again. I've lost my ability to control xhost for more than a minute or so. This is fairly recent. my xhost + . . . line in .xsession used to let me specify my common hosts, including localhost. No longer. It is necessary to do an xhost + immediately before a program tries to open an xwindow. ANd for each additional attempt. I don't *think* i did anything to bring on this change. WHile I'm at it, should I be using something other than xhost? the fm's i rt 'd seem to suggest I should be using magic cookies instead. Yes, cookies are better. However lest I start a tremendous and for-most- people useless debate over just how insecure the magic-cookie xauthorization and indeed all available built-in authorization let me echo the refrain up front: the magic-cookie auth scheme is insecure. That said, it is arguably *less* insecure than using xhost. In order to use it, you need to have your XAUTHORITY environment variable set. It should be a full-pathname to an xauth file. This is generally '~/.Xauthority'. Your X server must also be set up to use MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 authorization, which xdm does by default. The next hurdle is to get the xauth info into the file. Note that the cookie must be in the xauth file on the client. Since a new cookie is randomly generated each time you start a session you need to get the cookie data transported you want to run an x client on some machine. This can be a pain but then again the words effortless and security are seldom coincident. The most readily available way to get around this is to have a script which uses rsh in some way to cat the information over the network. But now we're back to the fact that rsh is inherently insecure. If you're not worried about that (and perhaps you should be, especially if you're not on an isolated network or behind a firewall) you could accomplish a remote xterm with: xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh otherhost xauth merge - ; xon otherhost (taken from xauth man page, with 'xon' addition) Personally, I prefer to use ssh which provides secure (though there has been debate about the insecurity of the x-forwarding which essentially goes back to the insecure way in which X does business) remote execution. ssh is available as a debian package on the non-us sites. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian on CD.
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Timothy Hospedales wrote: My current Debian system is off FTP sites. I am looking to buy Debian on CD when the next version comes out with libc6 standardized. What are the pro's and con's have you guys noticed for the different vendors? I bought my 1.2 CD from Cheapbytes and didn't have any problems. Historically, the Infomagic Debian CDs have caused a few problems. We now have a Debian Official CD program where any cd which claims to be an Official Debian CD is guarunteed (by the seller) to be a direct bit-for-bit copy of our CD masters, so anything under that label should be fine. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- |If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. | | -- Taken from Hennesey and Patterson,| | _Computer_Organization_And_Design_:_The_Hardware_/_Software_Interface_ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: loss of xauthority
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHile I'm at it, should I be using something other than xhost? the fm's i rt 'd seem to suggest I should be using magic cookies instead. Yes. Here was a posting about this some time ago. I quote it below. Ciao, Martin From: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:48:19 + Subject: xauth +, not a good idea... On Jun 21, Gernot Bauer wrote Hi, I recently upgraded my Xfree setup to 3.3 from unstable. But now I seem to have some problems. Only the user that runs the xserver (startx) can run apps on it any attempt to run an app by another user is refused. eg below; # xhost Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key xhost: unable to open display :0.0 # Isnt this a feature? Did you try xhost +? My root-user also must not open windows on my (user-)screen. xhost + disables this. and enables anyone on the Internet to connect to your X server and, say, stuff the string rm -rf / in an open root xterm. Or read everything you type, inluding passwords. Doing xhosts + in response to an Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key is pretty much the equivalent of making all files writable by anyone (chmod -R ugo+w /) and setting all the passwords to in response to a permission denied error when trying to access a file. Anyone that can get to your machine can now do pretty much anything they want to it. So, unless your machine is never connected to any kind of network, it's definitely a *bad* idea. And the Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key message that other users get when trying to connect to your X server is definitely a *feature* (enclosed in stars) as opposed to a feature (enclosed in quotes). If you trust everyone who has a login on your machine, do xhost +local: instead of xhost +. This will allow only non-network, local connections to your X server. If you don't trust every user on your machine, you'll need to learn a bit about xauth. xauth list $DISPLAY will list the key for the display $DISPLAY. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth list $DISPLAY pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e Anyone who has that key is authorized to connect to the X server managing display $DISPLAY. So say you want to grant user bar access to the display that user foo is using, you just do (as bar): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth add pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e (Everything after the 'add' was copied (using cut and paste) from the output of the 'xauth list' command.) You can automate this a bit more if you can use something like rsh or ssh. Then doing (as user foo): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth extract - $DISPLAY | ssh -l bar localhost merge - will give user bar the same access rights over the display $DISPLAY as user foo. By changing 'localhost' to some other host name, you can give a user logged onto another machine access to your display. (extract/merge work in a binary format instead of text, so they're not really suitable for cut and paste work.) If you logged in as a non-root user and want to give root on that machine the right to open xterms, etc. (maybe you want to install the latest Debian packages from stable), there's an even easier way. Since root can read other users' files, you can just tell root to use user foo's $HOME/.Xauthority file (which is where all the information we've just manipulated using 'xauth' is stored)... Just setting root's XAUTHORITY environment variable to (say) /home/foo/.Xauthority will tell root to use the keys contained in that file when she needs to authenticate herself to the X server (to, say, open an xterm). I hope I've been convincing enough on these two points: 1. Doing xhost + is simply a *bad* idea. 2. Doing it right (i.e. with xauth, .Xauthority and MIT magic cookies) really isn't that hard. If you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask here Christian Debian Security Officer PS Not that the MIT magic cookie scheme is perfect... The cookies aren't encrypted when they are transfered between the X client and the X server. So if you're connecting over a network, people who can snoop on your packets can grab the magic cookie and then use it to connect to your X server and do nasty stuff. But that's quite a bit harder to do. And since it requires snooping, it won't work for local X connections. If you want to do remote X connections securely, you really want to have a look at ssh. It makes it easier to have secure X connections than unsecure ones. (No need to do any xauth stuff.) There's a Debian package for it on the Debian non-US ftp site. PPS Where do people learn to xauth +? Would having a file that explains what the Right Thing (tm) to do is be a good idea? Something that would get installed with Debian's X11 packages, or something... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble?
Re: loss of xauthority
Martin wrote, From: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:48:19 + Subject: xauth +, not a good idea... If you don't trust every user on your machine, you'll need to learn a bit about xauth. xauth list $DISPLAY will list the key for the display $DISPLAY. pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e Anyone who has that key is authorized to connect to the X server managing display $DISPLAY. So say you want to grant user bar access to the display that user foo is using, you just do (as bar): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth add pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e curioser and curioser. I tried this, and it worked--once. I then successfully launched emacs, then lost the ability to change the remote xauth entirely. (???). Getting the sequence from the login xterm, I then type pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1 pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth add eyry.econ/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 684e3c0f4c1e460741426f5272005d0c pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1 That is, it isn't changing it in the remote system. However, it does seem to work in the root window on the local system. The remote system is using kerberos if this makes a difference. I still haven't figured out how to get the rpm's for kerberos installed. This prevents me from using rsh, getting pop-3 mail, etc. I've looked at the telnet man page, and it looks like I could evaluate the cookie, put it in a variable, pass this with the environ option, then have the remote .cshrc check for the variable, and add it if present. At the moment, i'm not worried nearly as much about security as in getting something to work. Even xhost + only works for a few seconds. thanks rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail vs procmail
Hi, I have a .forward file with the following line: |IFS=' ' p=/usr/bin/procmail test -f $p exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #mario This used to work under sendmail. Now, I just replaced sendmail with smail and I can't get my email filtered trough procmail. The replacement was done with: dpkg --force-depends --purge sendmail; dpkg -i smail_3.?.?.deb Looking at /var/adm/smail/logfile, I found: 12/29/1997 16:00:01: [m0xmjTt-YCa] |IFS=' ' p=/usr/bin/procmail \ test -f $p exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #mario ... director \ dotforward: child of mario insecure, access as 'nobody' 12/29/1997 16:00:01: [m0xmjTt-YCa] Delivered TO:IFS=' ' \ p=/usr/bin/procmail test -f $p exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #mario \ ORIG-TO:mario DIRECTOR:dotforward TRANSPORT:pipe Can somebody help to decipher this for me, please? []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What does 'bo' stand for?
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Martin Schulze wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote: Hi! I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian distribution tree? Binary Something? Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'. And what about hamm? Didn't see explanations for either in the FAQ -- would that be a good addition? Michael Stutz . http://dsl.org/m/ . copyright disclaimer etc stutz@dsl.org : finger for pgp : http://dsl.org/copyleft/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
The problem was: When I dial into my ISP, I get a prompt that says: host: here I type ppp then my username and password. How would I get it to type ppp? Would I just change my ppp.chatscript to say? ABORTNO DIALTONE ATDT7454342 ppp login amwalker password \qpassword\q Tim Sailer wrote: Martin Bialasinski wrote: On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: When I try to dial my ISP using /etc/ppp.chatscript in my ppp.log file I get this message: Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: ATDT7454342(a carrot goes here)M Dec 24 09:52:42 speedy chat[827]: Couldn't match host name or address - please try again(carrot goes here)M Do you use pon to connect? Check if you have debug in /etc/ppp.options_out (or was it in /etc/ppp/options ? Better put it in both files, I don't recall if pon uses them both). This will give more verbose messages. I think he is using pap, and pap-secrets doesn't match the hostname. BTW: What does (carrot goes here) mean? He means ^M Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Nihil illegitemi carborvndvm. --anon ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iconmedia.com (954)418-0817 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What does 'bo' stand for?
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Michael Stutz wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Martin Schulze wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote: Hi! I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian distribution tree? Binary Something? Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'. And what about hamm? Didn't see explanations for either in the FAQ -- would that be a good addition? Hamm is another character (a piggy bank). Also rex, a dinosaur. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: The problem was: When I dial into my ISP, I get a prompt that says: host: here I type ppp then my username and password. How would I get it to type ppp? Would I just change my ppp.chatscript to say? ABORTNO DIALTONE ATDT7454342 ppp login amwalker password \qpassword\q To make this easy look at the left column as what the isp says, and the right as how you would respond (a column is separated by spaces). So, from what you said above, it appears that the isp doesn't give you a login or password prompt, so it would be: ABORTNO DIALTONE ATDT7454342 host:ppp amwalker \qpassword\q Make sense? Brandon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What does 'bo' stand for?
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: : On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Michael Stutz wrote: : : On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Martin Schulze wrote: : : On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:33:50AM +0100, Pancho Horrillo wrote: :Hi! : :I have a silly question: What does 'bo' stand for in Debian :distribution tree? Binary Something? : : Bo is a character from the film 'Toy Story'. : : And what about hamm? Didn't see explanations for either in the FAQ -- : would that be a good addition? : : Hamm is another character (a piggy bank). Also rex, a dinosaur. ... and of course buzz (lightyear). (Yes, this would all be good FAQ stuff, under lore :) : : : Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen : -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
.bash_profile and TCP/IP
Happy Holidays, I have a 2 part question and as always I'd appreciate any and all information! 1: In my .bash_profile I would like to initiate X everytime I login at the console but not when logging in remotely. I experience 2 problems. 1. When I merely enter startx in .bash_profile I receive a short delay, then all my usual X stuff but with an error appearing in every xterm. X: you are not authorised to run X server! 2. Secondly, I wish to start the Xserver only when at my computer so I tried to enter this into my .bash_profile and I can't get it to work. What is wrong with it? if [ $TERM = console ]; then startx -- -bpp 16 fi 2: I am also requesting suggestions for a study guide/brain candy type book on TCP/IP networking. If any of the Linux/*nix gurus or senior system administrators would make a suggestion I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Ian _ .__. __ __ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \ \/ / | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | \ \/ / | |__ | | | | \ \| | | |_| | / / \ \ |__|__.|__| |__| \| |___| /_/ \_\ * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: loss of xauthority
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin wrote, From: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:48:19 + Subject: xauth +, not a good idea... If you don't trust every user on your machine, you'll need to learn a bit about xauth. xauth list $DISPLAY will list the key for the display $DISPLAY. pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e Anyone who has that key is authorized to connect to the X server managing display $DISPLAY. So say you want to grant user bar access to the display that user foo is using, you just do (as bar): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] xauth add pianocktail.org/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 53a82429fe56a1cf5236f3d4852e7d79e curioser and curioser. I tried this, and it worked--once. I then successfully launched emacs, then lost the ability to change the remote xauth entirely. (???). Getting the sequence from the login xterm, I then type pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1 pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth add eyry.econ/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 684e3c0f4c1e460741426f5272005d0c pv2086ttyp7:rhawkinsxauth list $DISPLAY eyry.econ.iastate.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 e627d47d72c34079be1f6c35ca3b58b1 Note: there can be more than one entry for a given host. The '/unix' in 'eyry.econ/unix:0' mean that the entry is good for a unix-domain socket. Unix-domain sockets on work on a single system, not over the network. Note also that there can be (and generally are) several entries in an xauth file. By using the construct 'xauth list $DISPLAY' you are limiting the list printed out to the entry for '$DISPLAY'. In fact, if after the above 'add' command you ran 'xauth list eyry.econ/unix:0' you would see the entry you added. What you want to do is 'xauth add $DISPLAY ...'. That is, it isn't changing it in the remote system. However, it does seem to work in the root window on the local system. The remote system is using kerberos if this makes a difference. I still haven't figured out how to get the rpm's for kerberos installed. This prevents me from using rsh, getting pop-3 mail, etc. I've looked at the telnet man page, and it looks like I could evaluate the cookie, put it in a variable, pass this with the environ option, then have the remote .cshrc check for the variable, and add it if present. At the moment, i'm not worried nearly as much about security as in getting something to work. Even xhost + only works for a few seconds. This is very odd. I'm really wondering how it can work only for a few seconds. There would have to be something else disabling the perms after you allowed them. kerberos is orthogonal (in this case, sinc we're using MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 authorization) to X security and should have no effect unless you're bringing other programs into the equation--for example to get your key across the network--which use kerberos. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: .bash_profile and TCP/IP
I believe you can do this by something like the following: if [ `tty | grep -v ttyp` != ]; then startx fi but I would test it first by replacing startx with echo hello world. Note, try echo $TERM to see why your other solution didn't work (should be linux). This eliminates the problem that .bash_profile is run in a telnet and by xterms that are told to act like login shells (the way I like them to act). Good luck, Brandon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
I got it working. Thanks to all that helped. But now another, sorta related question... Now that I can connect to my ISP under Linux, is it possible to connect under Linux then get access from netscape under my Win95 box (their both connected via ethernet)? How would I do this? Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: The problem was: When I dial into my ISP, I get a prompt that says: host: here I type ppp then my username and password. How would I get it to type ppp? Would I just change my ppp.chatscript to say? ABORTNO DIALTONE ATDT7454342 ppp login amwalker password \qpassword\q To make this easy look at the left column as what the isp says, and the right as how you would respond (a column is separated by spaces). So, from what you said above, it appears that the isp doesn't give you a login or password prompt, so it would be: ABORTNO DIALTONE ATDT7454342 host:ppp amwalker \qpassword\q Make sense? Brandon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iconmedia.com (954)418-0817 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Moment of stupidity... heh.
Err, I just ^Z a dpkg -i and killed the process and now of course it tells me that: dpkg: status database area is locked - another dpkg/dselect is running What do I do to fix this? I was in the middle of installing rc564 so it wasn't anything mission critical. TIA, Adam. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bizarre problem.
Hey guys! I've got a really *bizarre* problem!!! When I am using my PPP dialup connection, I can use everything on the 'net perfectly. EXECEPT, that I cannot access any dialup IP's in my ISP's domain, including my own. Any attempt at contacting, using the IPs directly, or via a dyn.ml.org domain name, with PING's, or various clients fail. My ISP's domain is 196.3.144.*. The first five IP's (196.3.144.1-5), are the IPs of my ISP's domain, web, ftp, etc servers. These IP's I can access fine. Subsequent IP's (6-about 200) are assigned to dialup accounts, I can't access any of these. :(. I've got no idea where to start trying to fix this. :(. Any ideas at all are appreciated. :). Thanx, Timothy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: .bash_profile and TCP/IP
Ian Keith Setford wrote: Happy Holidays, I have a 2 part question and as always I'd appreciate any and all information! 1: In my .bash_profile I would like to initiate X everytime I login at the console but not when logging in remotely. I experience 2 problems. 1. When I merely enter startx in .bash_profile I receive a short delay, then all my usual X stuff but with an error appearing in every xterm. X: you are not authorised to run X server! This message happens because each xterm is a login session and therefore the bash reads .bash_profile and executes 'startx'. 2. Secondly, I wish to start the Xserver only when at my computer so I tried to enter this into my .bash_profile and I can't get it to work. What is wrong with it? if [ $TERM = console ]; then startx -- -bpp 16 fi The TERM environment variable describes the terminal type rather than the device. It isn't what you want. What you want is: if expr `/usr/bin/tty` : '/dev/tty[0-9]'; then exec startx -- -bpp 16 fi (Make sure you put this *last* in the file.) Better yet, don't do this at all. Use xdm. It really isn't that scary to set up and solves all these problems *much* more gracefully in addition to closing the security hole of having to make the X server set-userid root. 2: I am also requesting suggestions for a study guide/brain candy type book on TCP/IP networking. If any of the Linux/*nix gurus or senior system administrators would make a suggestion I'd appreciate it. I the series called something like 'TCP/IP ...' written by Douglas Comer. I can give you ISBN if you want. Let me know today and I'll write it down when I go home. It's a three-volume set but just vol. 1 or maybe also vol. 2 should more than satisfy your needs and desires. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: .bash_profile and TCP/IP
Ian Keith Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1:In my .bash_profile I would like to initiate X everytime I login at the console but not when logging in remotely. I experience 2 problems. How about using xdm? It will give a X login at the console. Edit /etc/X11/config to include xdm-start-server start-xdm Then start xdm with /etc/init.d/xdm start Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: I got it working. Thanks to all that helped. But now another, sorta related question... Now that I can connect to my ISP under Linux, is it possible to connect under Linux then get access from netscape under my Win95 box (their both connected via ethernet)? How would I do this? I believe there is a kernel option called IP_MASQ that you would be interested in. However, I haven't done this yet (I plan on it when I decide how I will connect my boxes together). Good luck, Brandon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Ethernet not starting correctly
Once again, I'm having some problems with networking. I at least got my card working now (was having problems before that I fixed by recompiling new kernel and pcmcia modules etc.) but now the networking isn't loading correctly when it boots. When I boot up networking simply doesn't work. eth0 hasn't initialized. Yet when I run /etc/init.d/network, it works perfectly from that point. What's the deal with it not starting correctly? One thing I had to change before in /etc/init.d/network was the device from pcmcia to eth0. Do I have to do this in other files as well? TIA --Asher -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
More that 64 Mb memory
I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this one. I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory. When I boot a standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory. Could someone tell me what I change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory? Also, this is a dual-processor system. If I look at /proc/cpuinfo it seems to be reporting only one processor. Could someone please remind me how to check if both processors are being used? -- Douglas Bates[EMAIL PROTECTED] Statistics Department608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madisonhttp://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.
Do fg at the prompt where you ^Z'd it. Brandon On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Adam Shand wrote: Err, I just ^Z a dpkg -i and killed the process and now of course it tells me that: dpkg: status database area is locked - another dpkg/dselect is running What do I do to fix this? I was in the middle of installing rc564 so it wasn't anything mission critical. TIA, Adam. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
something wrong with the user-digest?
I haven't got any mail from user-digest for a while. Then suddenly got this huge mail (1.8M) from the debian-change. Is there anything wrong with the server? ** * Feng Qian * * Dept. of Pharmacol. Physiol. Sci.* * The University of Chicago * * Phone: (773) 702-0755 * * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian vs. Caldera
Hi guys, I'm new to the Linux scene, actually want to get into the Linux scene and have two copies that I could start out with, Debian 1.3.1 and Caldera OpenLinux Standard. Please tell me which flavor would be best for a newbie and why. I'm excited about Linux and ready to get rolling with it. Sean Brinsfield Network Analyst City of Little Rock, AR 501-371-4696 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Unidentified subject!
I am using MI/X on both win95 and mac. I remembered there were some problems to install MI/X for win95. It seemed you need two files from the Micrographics in order to decompress the file0001.bin. Anyhow, my copy works fine on a win95 machine. I suggest you go to the micrographics home page to get the new version and there is a very helpful FAQ too. Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:13:41 -0800 From: Ronald L. Zerbe Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Help with using a remote xserver I use a different server, but try DISPLAY=powermac:0; export DISPLAY from a telnet prompt in yur linux box. Then xterm or what ever, speaking of MI/X i just d/led the free version, (win95) and the file0001.bin is password protected, i cant get it to install, emailed microimage about it, but no answer. I also d/l it twice incase of bad file but still same problem. the setup program after u run getme1st sees it and starts to install but never uncompressed the file? Anyhelp? tired of this win95 Xserver that only gives u 30 minute connections. RZ ** * Feng Qian * * Dept. of Pharmacol. Physiol. Sci.* * The University of Chicago * * Phone: (773) 702-0755 * * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.
Do fg at the prompt where you ^Z'd it. Uh, I realise that. I ^Z'd it and *killed* the process. It's no longer running. There is now a stale lock file and I need to know where it's kept so that I can delete it. Thanks, Adam. Err, I just ^Z a dpkg -i and killed the process and now of course it tells me that: dpkg: status database area is locked - another dpkg/dselect is running What do I do to fix this? I was in the middle of installing rc564 so it wasn't anything mission critical. TIA, Adam. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More that 64 Mb memory
On 29 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this one. I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory. When I boot a standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory. Could someone tell me what I change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory? In /etc/lilo.conf: append=mem=128M Also, this is a dual-processor system. If I look at /proc/cpuinfo it seems to be reporting only one processor. Could someone please remind me how to check if both processors are being used? Uncomment the SMP=1 line in the kernel makefile and rebuild your kernel. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Adam Shand wrote: Do fg at the prompt where you ^Z'd it. Uh, I realise that. I ^Z'd it and *killed* the process. It's no longer running. There is now a stale lock file and I need to know where it's kept so that I can delete it. rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/{lock,methlock} -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More that 64 Mb memory
On 29 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this one. I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory. When I boot a standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory. Could someone tell me what I change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory? Should be something like MEM=128 appended to the lilo prompt (e.g. LILO: linux MEM=128). Good luck, Brandon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More that 64 Mb memory
On 29 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this one. I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory. When I boot a standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory. Could someone tell me what I change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory? You need an append line in /etc/lilo.conf; probably mem=128M... checkout the bootprompt-howto at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/bootprompt-HOWTO Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- |If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. | | -- Taken from Hennesey and Patterson,| | _Computer_Organization_And_Design_:_The_Hardware_/_Software_Interface_ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote: I believe there is a kernel option called IP_MASQ that you would be interested in. However, I haven't done this yet (I plan on it when I decide how I will connect my boxes together). Yes! I use it on my system here. My Win3.11 machine acts basically as it did with the modem in it, but all my systems can access at the same time. I have a feeling that the Win3.11 machine responds faster, as recieving one fast packet over ethernet, rather than recieving lots of bytes over modem and then having to put together a SLIP packet would be less processor intensive??? Anyway, I recommend IP Masquerading, You need to recompile your kernel though, and add IP_MASQ. After compilation, you type two lines, to set it up and you're away!!! I was thinking it would be difficult, but just I just followed the HOWTO, and it was very easy!! Hope this helps, Tim Customer: I'm using Windows 95 Tech Support: Yes... Customer: My computer isn't working now Tech Support: Yes, you said that -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian on CD.
My current Debian system is off FTP sites. I am looking to buy Debian on CD when the next version comes out with libc6 standardized. What are the pro's and con's have you guys noticed for the different vendors? For now, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that you should *NOT* buy the Debian CDs from Greenbush Technologies Corp. (www.greenbush.com). I ordered the official CD set in September by filling out their secure on-line form, they charged my credit card (at least that is what I've seen on my bank's reports), but never shipped anything... I sent them e-mail twice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), politely asking them what was going on, but never got an answer. Maybe I should have sent them a fax as well, but you really expect a company with an online ordering system to have some way to read its e-mail... Cleto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bizarre problem.
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Timothy Hospedales wrote: Hey guys! I've got a really *bizarre* problem!!! When I am using my PPP dialup connection, I can use everything on the 'net perfectly. EXECEPT, that I cannot access any dialup IP's in my ISP's domain, including my own. Any attempt at contacting, using the IPs directly, or via a dyn.ml.org domain name, with PING's, or various clients fail. type ifconfig This lists your interfaces and should give you your IP address that your system is listening on. Look for inet addr under ppp0, try pinging that address - that should work. As they are dial-up systems : maybe they aren't logged on??? Hope this helps, Tim. Customer: I'm using Windows 95 Tech Support: Yes... Customer: My computer isn't working now Tech Support: Yes, you said that -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
oh my god the listserv is stuffed.. =)
Howdy... I subscribed here about .. 2 months ago.. since then i had to unsubscribe as i've been to busy lately.. When i unsubscribed, i was told that an error occurered, and i was never even on the mailing list.. ok, i thought, it's fine, i'm not getting any more mail, it's taken me off the list. Today i got a *1.8meg* back-catalog of what's happened in the last month.. argh!! If someone knows what's going on, could ya please help? =) TIA, Damien -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:06:58PM -0500, Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: password \qpassword\q \qpassword\q Incidentally, you don't want the second \q; it will turn echo to the log back on, and the password WILL then go into the log. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: couldn't match host name or address
Brandon writes: ABORTNO DIALTONE ATDT7454342 host:ppp amwalker \qpassword\q Better: ABORT NO DIALTONE ABORT NO CARRIER ABORT VOICE ABORT BUSY ATZ OK ATDT7454342 CONNECT host: \dppp login \damwalker password\d\qpassword This tells chat to: a) Abort on receipt of the report strings NO DIALTONE, NO CARRIER, VOICE, or BUSY. b) Expect nothing and send ATZ, resetting the modem to its default state. This is usually factory programmed to the best configuration for ppp. If yours is different, replace ATZ with an appropriate init string. c) Expect OK, which is what a reset modem should say, and send the phone number. d) Expect CONNECT, which is what the modem says when it gets carrier, and send nothing. e) Expect the string host: and send ppp after a 1 second delay (the \d tells chat to delay 1 second). f) Expect login and send amwalker after a 1 second delay. g) Expect password and send the password after a 1 second delay, and don't write it to the log file (the \q suppresses writing to the log). I put the one second delays in because I've found that some isp's can't handle an immediate response. I left out the \q after the password because it doesn't belong there. Its presence in the example file is an error. You should also test to see if your isp supports pap. To do this just delete everything on the chatscript after the word CONNECT, set up your pap-secrets file, and try it. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bizarre problem.
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 04:41:52PM +, Timothy Hospedales wrote: Hey guys! I've got a really *bizarre* problem!!! When I am using my PPP dialup connection, I can use everything on the 'net perfectly. EXECEPT, that I cannot access any dialup IP's in my ISP's domain, including my own. Any attempt at contacting, using the IPs directly, or via a dyn.ml.org domain name, with PING's, or various clients fail. My ISP's domain is 196.3.144.*. The first five IP's (196.3.144.1-5), are the IPs of my ISP's domain, web, ftp, etc servers. These IP's I can access fine. Subsequent IP's (6-about 200) are assigned to dialup accounts, I can't access any of these. :(. It sounds like some sort of firewall. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian on CD.
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Cleto Pescia wrote: For now, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that you should *NOT* buy the Debian CDs from Greenbush Technologies Corp. (www.greenbush.com). I ordered the official CD set in September by filling out their secure on-line form, they charged my credit card (at least that is what I've seen on my bank's reports), but never shipped anything... I sent them e-mail twice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), politely asking them what was going on, but never got an answer. Maybe I should have sent them a fax as well, but you really expect a company with an online ordering system to have some way to read its e-mail... I had similar problems. I ordered the monthly disk for 3 months. A couple of months after I go charged I hadn't any CDs. I emailed them. Paul Wade replied that he had send sent out a couple of disks, but he would send a 'free' replacement. I received that CD, but nothing more. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.64 1997/12/29 23:13:55 johnie Exp $ 1. General Questions 1.1. Before reading this document You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/. 1.2. Purpose of this document This document is intended to identify areas that need your contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ. 1.3. Getting newer versions of this document Newer versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP: o http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html o ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective- packages.txt o ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective- packages.html 1.4. Feedback Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mention to which version of this document your comments refer. Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re: Work- Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject line reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on barpackage. Thanks. 2. Recent Changes 2.1. Since version 1.63 1997/12/22 o Frederic Lepied mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on xmbdfed, a powerful X11 font editor. o Boris D. Beletsky mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on a Scheme-C translator. o Glimpse has been adopted by Marco Budde mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. o Herbert Xu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has taken over netpbm and chimera. o Andreas Franzen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has adopted xarclock. o New maintainer Adam P. Harris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is adopting addressbook. o Igor Grobman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on xbattleball. 3. Orphaned packages (An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.) Please inform [EMAIL PROTECTED] via e-mail: o when you find that you need to orphan a package o when you believe that the following list is incomplete o when you would like to maintain one of these packages. Emilio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o ratfor77 (old source format) o ftnchek Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o majordomo Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o kde o giflib Dominik Kubla o vgrind Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o blt Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o auctex o ghostview o lacheck (libc5) o libc5 o libc5-altdbg o libc5-altdev o libc6.1 o libc6.1-dbg o libc6.1-dev o libc6.1-pic o libproc-dev o procps o xproc o xxgdb Orn E. Hansen : o xega o xmailtool o xspread Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o compress-package o ppd-adobe-common, ppd-adobe-extra, ppd-adobe-misc, ppd-gs o psptools Dominik Kubla [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o arpd o csh Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o zyxel Raul D. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o j1 (in old source format) o sam Michael Nonweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mh-papers o term Doug Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o apsfilter Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mathpad o mfbasfnt o wenglish Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xarchie o bibindex Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o pgcc Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o fsp Guy R. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dld (do we still need this ?) Patrick J Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mailpgp Robert Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o motifnls Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o file-rc David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o tcl74 o tcl75 o tk40 o tk41 Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o tclx74 o tclx75 o tix40 Michael Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o javalex o java-cup o rsynth Karl Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o courtney o freelip o groupkit o imgstar o lee o objpak o pgapack o premail o saoimage o snns o tcs o tkdiff o wily o xbattle o xephem-smotif Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o hyperlatex o latex2rtf Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o gettyps Others: o rc o xcompat (should we drop it ?) o libc4 (a.out compatibility) 4. Packages needing a new maintainer Please inform [EMAIL PROTECTED] via e-mail: o when you find that you'd like to discontinue maintaining a package Please inform [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mainatiner of the package: o when you would like to maintain one of the packages. Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o seyon o lpr Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o adbbs o adpkg o autofs o berolist o bonnie o bridge/bridgex (Bridging Tools for Kernel 2.0.X/2.1.X) o chris-cust o debsums o
Re: couldn't match host name or address
Does it really matter? On my machine, the only person that can view the logs, is root. Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 02:06:58PM -0500, Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: password \qpassword\q \qpassword\q Incidentally, you don't want the second \q; it will turn echo to the log back on, and the password WILL then go into the log. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iconmedia.com (954)418-0817 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Moment of stupidity... heh.
That's what I was after. Thank you very much. Adam. Uh, I realise that. I ^Z'd it and *killed* the process. It's no longer running. There is now a stale lock file and I need to know where it's kept so that I can delete it. rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/{lock,methlock} -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .