PPP kernel support loss ?? and other UNIX drivers
Have had this happen on two different systems now and am at a loss as to why or how to fix. I install the base system and everything goes fine. Have a PPP script saved on disk to enable PPP for Dselect FTP. After I restart the PC and get the press enter to start dselect message I switch to tty2, load the ppp script stuff and ppp-up to dial and connect. (On tty3 I use tail -f /var/log/messages and wait for the IP address to be assigned from my ISP, then back to dselect.) Start dselect, select method, select generic install (no adds or deletes at all to start), download... All goes fine. Usually is overnight, so by morning the PPP link has timed out and hung up (per tty3 messages). Unpack, install, configure - get an error on smail, mailx, cron and at that it can't resolve my host and mail names. Try to bring up PPP in tty2 again and get the message that the kernel lacks PPP support. Can restart the PC to no effect, can reinstall PPP scripts to no effect, can switch directories amongst the /etc family to no effect. Kernel is 2.0.29 and 2.0.30 (two different systems, total of 4 or 5 installs). The PC's are both Compaqs - a Prolinea MT 4/33 (AMD 486/133, 24MB RAM, two 500MB IDE) and a Presario 4840 (PII/266, 6GB IDE, 32MB RAM). The Prolinea has been formatted and reinstalled 4x, the Presario is a fresh install on a single clean partition (didn't even fdisk it in DOS before the install!). WHY, HOW, and (now that the shouting is over and I feel better) how do we fix this? Also, can I use drivers for UNIX SVR3.2, SCO UNIX and/or SCO XENIX under Debian? (Have a dialup board that comes with those. Company's response to Do you have Linux drivers? is Nope, but if you buy ___ board for lotsa $$$ we have them...) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftpproxy with dselect
Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a pretty kettle of fish: the method recently recommened for ftp proxies with dselect doesn't work, because my lovely isp requires you to login to the proxy using your username and password, and to get to the site by issuing a ftp user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shouldn't be a problem as that case is specifically handled by the perl Net::FTP module dpkg-ftp relies for ftp support. Try setting the FTP_FIREWALL environment variable to your isp's proxy, leaving the dpkg-ftp info as it was. Does it help at all? -- Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: command set
O'Rielly's Linux in a Nutshell is a good summary of common commands. It has lists of user, administrative, and network commands, a list of options for each, and a short description of the commands functionality. On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, J.P. Beebe wrote: I'm trying to learn how to use Linux. Can you tell me where I can find a command set for it? I don't know how to maneuvre in this system at all. Thanks! J.P. Beebe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Two Monitors
I read an article in LJ describing the Metro-X server (I think that was it anyway), which can drive multiple video cards (though only with the right cards). I don't know if Xfree has any support for this sort of thing, or exactly how it would shake out with interrupts and such. I too am interested in this. If you find anything else out let me know. On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Richard L Shepherd wrote: Has anyone any experience in using two monitors on one machine. I'm thinking particularly of X. I can get a second video card (which I guess is mandatory or there'd be nowhere to plug the second one in right?). What I'm really interested in is getting the tow side-by-side and having X treat them as one big screen (similar to the way Macintosh's can do this). Is this possible? Or is my best bet to run up X :0 and X :1 and use Ctrl-Alt-F[78] to switch between them? I'd be interested to hear... 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Phone: 07-838-4764 8---8 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bug#15854 should be release-critical (was Re: buzz upgrade report)
It sounds like you are talking about Bug#15854. On 11 Dec 1997 the maintainer's response to the bug report included a patch to fix it, which he said would be included in perl 5.004.04-4. My rex system contains non-empty directories that trigger this problem, but my bo system does not. I don't know if some bo systems have them, or if all rex systems do. It may depend on the upgrade history of a particular box. As of last night, perl 5.004.04-4 was not on ftp.debian.org. I believe this should be considered a release-critical bug, as it can break the auto upgrade script, leaving a system in an unstable state. Bob On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:31:32 +1100, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that perl's postinst tries to clean up the mess in /usr/lib/perl5/i486-linux but fails, so the postinst fails and therefore the configuration of a whole lot of other packages fails too. I will file a bug report. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bug#15854 should be release-critical (was Re: buzz upgrade report)
On Tue, Jan 20, 1998 at 07:21:09PM -0500, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: It sounds like you are talking about Bug#15854. On 11 Dec 1997 the maintainer's response to the bug report included a patch to fix it, which he said would be included in perl 5.004.04-4. My rex system contains non-empty directories that trigger this problem, but my bo system does not. I don't know if some bo systems have them, or if all rex systems do. It may depend on the upgrade history of a particular box. As of last night, perl 5.004.04-4 was not on ftp.debian.org. I believe this should be considered a release-critical bug, as it can break the auto upgrade script, leaving a system in an unstable state. Yes I found that /usr/lib/perl5/i486-linux/5.002/auto/Socket still contained two files, which caused problems in the postinst. Actually, they still exist on my hamm box (upgraded buzz-rex-bo-hamm) but I'm still running 5.004.02-1; just upgraded to 5.004.04-3 and had the same problem, error 123. dpkg doesn't seem to know which package owns the files in that directory though, so it's somebody's bug of the past. But perl needs to deal with it now. Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie --Adding Programs To My Debian Base
On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Will Lowe wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, IBMackey wrote: I've been using debian for about 5 weeks. I'm just starting to think about adding some programs, not in the packages, to my system. One such program came in the form of program.bin.gz. I figure I can use my debian gunzip to get the first part of it unzipped. I have no idea what to do with the program.bin. Any help is sorely appreciated. Unzip it and put program.bin in /usr/local/bin/ Then make sure /usr/local/bin is in your path, and run the program from the command line with program.bin Will, Thanks a lot. I think you left out the chmod 755 program.bin hint also. i.b. Also, to Craig Sanders, I'm working up to that level, Thanx -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xntpd
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. Greetings! What's the best way to keep xntpd from making discrete time adjustments (steps) to the clock when running across a dialup Internet connection which periodically becomes saturated? (i.e. xntpd sees a different delay pattern when the line saturates, and falsely adjusts the clock.) Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Camm Maguire == The earth is one country, and mankind its citizens. Baha'u'llah -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Two Monitors
On 20 Jan, Britton wrote: I read an article in LJ describing the Metro-X server (I think that was it anyway), which can drive multiple video cards (though only with the right cards). I don't know if Xfree has any support for this sort of thing, or exactly how it would shake out with interrupts and such. I too am interested in this. If you find anything else out let me know. You hit the nail on the head so to speak... Both Metro-X and Accel-X have supprot for multiple monitors (Metro-X has supprot built in - Accel-X charges extra) and in both cases you are limited in respect to what video adapters are supported. HTH, Tim -- ## # # # # # # ## ## # # # # # Debian GNU Linux ## # # # # # # ## # ## # # # # Power to the people... # # # ## # # E-Mail: Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
notes on upgrade from bo to hamm
I just finished upgrading from bo to hamm. It worked almost flawlessly. Here are my notes. After running the upgrade script, any new bashes that i start dont work with set -o vi, even if i run that command manually. The problem appears only on the linux console, if i telnet it with a VT100 terminal emulator then vi keybindings work right. X doesnt work any more... When i try to start my X server, it switches to video mode and hangs. I have to log in remotely and reboot. I had a working X installation under Debian 1.3.1. I did the upgrade to hamm, and tried to run X. It hung. I reconfigured it using XF86Setup. The VGA server ran fine, but when it tried to start the S3 serveer it freaked out as above. The partition with my /usr on it filled up while i was upgrading X. I saw no complaints from the packages being installed, fixed the problem (freed up a bunch of space by moving the kernel sources off) and continued the install. Perhaps one of the X packages does not properly deal with disk-is-full errors? I'll try uninstalling everything and installing it fresh on a roomier disk. A couple of problems with installation and configuration of specific packages: Unpacking libc6-dev (from .../devel/libc6-dev_2.0.6-2.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /usr/local/tmp/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/devel/libc6-dev_2.0.6-2.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/include/ndbm.h', which is also in package libgdbmg1-dev dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) I uninstalled libgdbmg1-dev and installed libc6-dev, then it worked. Preparing to replace gv 2.9.4-3 (using .../text/gv_3.5.8-4.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gv ... dpkg: error processing /home/kuzminsk/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/text/gv_3.5.8-4.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/mini-gv.xpm', which is also in package fvwm-common Preparing to replace wu-ftpd 2.4-27 (using .../net/wu-ftpd_2.4-27.1.deb) ... Unpacking replacement wu-ftpd ... dpkg: error processing /home/kuzminsk/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/wu-ftpd_2.4-27.1.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/man/man8/ftpd.8.gz', which is also in package netstd dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of grmonitor: grmonitor depends on glut3g (= 3.5-1); however: Package glut3g is not installed. dpkg: error processing grmonitor (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured This one's just a typo, the package it REALLY depends on is called glutg3. I dont know which should change, the package name or the dependency. All in all i think that went real smooth. Thanks a lot everybody! Sebastian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP kernel support loss ?? and other UNIX drivers
May or may not affect you. Check perms on /dev/ttyS?, needs to be group dialout, and on ppp scripits. PPP from debian assumes that you are in group dip or root. As I have seen it explained PPP actually is trying to load over console, and there is no PPP support for PPP over a console. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help !! On Installing and Upgrading.
Please help. I am relatively new to linux, and having trtied for several days now require some assistance. My question relates to the installation of 'unstable' sections, into the Debian 1.3 system, where conflicts between the current 'stable' version 1.3 packages installed and the Debian 'unstable' packages. The problem I have is... I was examining the hamm (unstable) distributions and downloaded the Socks4 server package, and the libraries and dependants to go with it. During install I was warned that libc6 conflicted with libc5. A force manual install and configure merely, as expected, renders the system unusable as libc5 is removed, and much of the 'stable' system requires libc5. What is required to allow the installation of libc6 either with the safe removal of libc5, without crashing the system, or having the two co-exist on the same system, or cant the two be mixed ? How is it done ? I have searched the Debian web site but as yet can find no immediate answer. Thanks Ian Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Local printing on server
At 16:50 20.1.98 -0500, you wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Bostjan Jerko wrote: Connection refused job 'cfA206debian' trasfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed after 1 attempts I already checked hosts.lpd (ALL and localhost), hosts.allow (ALL, debian and localhost) and hosts (localhost, debian). /etc/printcap Probably worth your time to install magicfilter or apsfilter (but the latter doesn't have a maintainer anymore). Brandon You will be suprised, but I installed apsfilter. Maybe it was a mistake so I will try with magicfilter. Bostjan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux and ADSL
Hi there, My local phone company is offering internet access through ADSL and I'm considering hooking up with them. Could someone tell me what all would be involved in changing over my Linux box to use their ADSL instead of using my dialup PPP? Does their modem require special drivers? thanks, rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
MWave Modem
I have an IBM computer with debian installed and it uses an internal Mwave modem. I can't seem so write a script that will initialize the modem. Does anybody have a script that will work with this modem that I can look at? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Upload files via web browser
Hi, I'd like to know how do I can create a web page that would allow the user browsing at the page to upload files to the server. I've seen the other way around where the user can download file from the server. But for this case, the user is the client that uploads file to the server. Let assume the web page is for internal users only for now. Any CGI, JavaScript, Java, etc. pointers, please email me. Thanks! -- Timothy C. Phan Intelligence Quest Research, INC. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Backup system
Hi there, I would like to set up a simple Backup system for a linux server I'm setting up. I hear that linux has great support for floppy tape drives. Anyone recommend a good one with least amount of troubles getting to work? The system I would like to set up is to have a cron that backs up the entire drive to tape every 48 hours or so while everyone is sleeping. I would also like to create a boot disk that anyone could use in the event of a hard drive failure. After a new drive was installed the disk would boot, fdisk and format (if possible), and then dump the contents of whatever is on the tape back to the disk. Is this possible? Can anyone suggest what would be the best way to go about setting this up? Anyone done something like this already or know where I can find someone who has? thanks for any advice, rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
VM (Emacs mail reader) maintainer?
The VM mail reader has recently gone through several releases but the Debian package isn't keeping up. I've been installing it in /usr/local/whatever but would like to be able to use the .deb files. Who maintains this (or how can I find out)? I would like to encourage him/her to stay on top of the new releases of VM --Bill. -- William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1803 Mission St. #339voicemail +1 408/479-4072 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458-8862 PGP Key 0x2BD331E5; Public key at http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/pubkey.txt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: *-* auto-upgrade from rex to hamm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: does rex = rexx (script language found in OS/2 amongst others) As others have pointed out, no. But REXX == Regina, a package in to-be-2.0. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Upload files via web browser
iquest [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to know how do I can create a web page that would allow the user browsing at the page to upload files to the server. [snip] Some browsers (like Netscape) support this. I recommend doing the necessary CGI programming using CGI.pm from Perl. ISTR all the necessary documentation comes with CGI.pm. For Debian 1.3, install CGI-modules and libwww-perl. The modules are part of Perl 5.004 in hamm. (This is all IIRC and IMHO, BTW.) -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Upload files via web browser
I'd like to know how do I can create a web page that would allow the user browsing at the page to upload files to the server. If you have an FTP server on your web server, type this in your netscape: ftp://e-mail address example: ftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED] It will ask you for your password and you can now upload your web page. The only problem is... you could upload only one file at a time. If you want to upload many files, go get netscape gold or netscape communicator. It has a facility to upload plenty of files on your web server. regards, == == Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated == == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 == = == ==== == E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] == WebPage : www.lasaltech.com/andre.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
debian
If i want a grafical enviroment on Linux wich on should I take and how do I install it ? , Is X window good ? THX -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Gzip + Dselect after libc6 upgrade
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 20 08:38:06 1998 Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:24:18 + Resent-Date: 19 Jan 1998 10:22:20 - Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Skreeg) Subject: Gzip + Dselect after libc6 upgrade To: debian-user@lists.debian.org (Debian List) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:30:09 + (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] Resent-Message-ID: fzdTzC.A.6DB.Vlyw0@debian Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/24368 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks, `fraid I`m still having bother with gzip and dselect. I`ve upgraded to libc6 quite successfully. Everything works hunkydory but dselect always gives this error when installing. dpkg -i works fine on it`s own. Error; gzip: stdout: Broken pipe dpkg-deb: subprocess gzip -dc returned error exit status 1 dpkg: error processing debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/doc/doc-linux-html_98.01-1.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2 Can the person who sent me a reply to this problem please get in touch again. Your mail had just quoted text in it and noone else has replied. Cheers. Ozzy (hoping muchly for some help) __ _ _ / \ \ \ / / / / / |-Brian SkreegIRC:_Ozzy-| \__/ \ \ |-Lead guitarist extraordinaire-| \__/_/ |-I don't look like two zombies-| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Fast Network Terminal Graphics (gnuplot)
camm == Camm Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: camm Years ago, a camm friend helped me setup Tektronics terminal emulation under camm kermit, but I can't seem to get it working now. don't forget to try out all of the tektronics terminals availabke in gnuplot, i.e. `tek40xx`, `vttek`, `kc-tek40xx`, `km-tek40xx`, `selanar`, or `bitgraph` (see `help set term tek40xx' in gnuplot). once upon a time, tek40xx worked fine for me... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian-user FAQ: your help is needed!
Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings all! I've set up a framework for debian-user FAQ using FAQ-O-Matic by Jon Howell. It looks and feels great. I guess you don´t want to mention it from the official pages yet. But I really think the appropiate url would be ...debian.org/faq/ looking for moderators for each section (see below). I am also looking for feedback regarding the setup. I am sure some categories need to be added, and You should add Problems as main section. We should discuss how to organize it on the second level. Please contact me if you'd like to help. I would like to. This is my first contact as a developer to debian, though. Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp-key (during normal european business time hours) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
telnet to localhost
I can not telnet or ftp to localhost, it says that service is not started, but I can see them in /etc/service, can some body tell me where should I check for this error? Further more I can not even ftp or http to my box from the net, even thou my apache and wuftpd is up and running.., it says something like connection closed by my server. but I can do every outbound connection like ftp, telnet to the others from my box, right now running kernel 2.0.32... thanks kusuma -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs, X, and Alt key
I, like Thomas Vaughan, have been having problems getting emacs to recognise the Alt key under X. (The system is a Toshiba laptop.) Daniel Martin wrote: What is the result of the following commands: xmodmap xmodmap -pke | grep -E '64|11[356]' Here are the results: $ xmodmap xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lockCaps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) mod1Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71) mod2Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4Meta_L (0x73), Meta_R (0x74) mod5Scroll_Lock (0x4e) $ xmodmap -pke | grep -E '64|11[356]' keycode 64 = Alt_L keycode 113 = Alt_R keycode 115 = Meta_L keycode 116 = Meta_R I can't see anything particularly wrong here - but then, I'm no expert. Is something not right? Peter Galbraith wrote: Run `xev' and press the Alt keys to find what keycode they generate I did this and got: KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x2a, subw 0x0, time 535084486, (-5,-23), root:(380,198), state 0x0, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x2a, subw 0x0, time 535084676, (-5,-23), root:(380,198), state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: Seems fine. No? Well I don't know what to do from here. Any ideas? Thanks, Mark. __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Kernel Compile after libc6 upgrade
This week I tried compiling a kernel (2.0.32) for the first time since upgrading to libc6 about a month ago. I can't get past `make dep.' It fails with the following message: debian# make dep make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/arch/i386/boot' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `dep'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/arch/i386/boot' scripts/mkdep init/*.c .tmpdepend scripts/mkdep `find /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/asm /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/linux /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/scsi /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/net -follow -name \*.h ! -name modversions.h -print` .hdepend make: *** [dep-files] Error 139 Have I missed something in the upgrade? Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ATI 3D Rage II and XFree86
I installed the Debian 1.31 kernel 20.2.29 on my Pc. Now I have problems in finding the proper xserver configuration for the ATI 3D Rage II videoboard. I tried svga and mach64 server where I can select - from xf86config - the ATI 3D Rage II,Ramdac option, but I don't know which Ramdac types and clock cycles I should select. When I try startx I get some black screens except for the 800*600 resolution, which flickers terribly. The monitor supports 31-86 kHz, 50-160 Hz. The board runs fine on WIN95 with a 1024*768 resolution. Does anybody know how to configure the board? Best regards, Franz Karrer -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X Windows
Hi All, First, thanks for the assistance with the ethernet card yesterday -- I now have network access :) I'd like to do the X-Windows thing, where do I start? Is there a FAQ out there somewhere? Any direction would be appreciated... Thanks, Rob -- Save the Whales -- Collect the whole set [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Two Monitors
Britton writes: I read an article in LJ describing the Metro-X server (I think that was it anyway), which can drive multiple video cards (though only with the right cards). I don't know if Xfree has any support for this sort of thing, or exactly how it would shake out with interrupts and such. I too am interested in this. If you find anything else out let me know. In the Feb. 98 LJ on pg. 72 there was a user question on this response was suggested Accelerated-X over Metro-X. Multiple monitors feature is refered to multi-headed. I have no experience in this I am just passing this info on On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Richard L Shepherd wrote: Has anyone any experience in using two monitors on one machine. I'm thinking particularly of X. I can get a second video card (which I guess is mandatory or there'd be nowhere to plug the second one in right?). What I'm really interested in is getting the tow side-by-side and having X treat them as one big screen (similar to the way Macintosh's can do this). Is this possible? Or is my best bet to run up X :0 and X :1 and use Ctrl-Alt-F[78] to switch between them? I'd be interested to hear... 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Phone: 07-838-4764 8---8 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help !! On Installing and Upgrading.
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Ian Perry wrote: What is required to allow the installation of libc6 either with the safe removal of libc5, without crashing the system, or having the two co-exist on the same system, or cant the two be mixed ? How is it done ? Look at: file:/usr/doc/debian/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html.tar.gz. or at: http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mixing kernel/modules versions, CONFIG_MODVERSIONS and ...
I would like to know what I have to do if I want to use mixed kernel/modules versions compiled in my machine or in another one... the kernel documention and HOWTOs doesn't tell about that... well, not exactly they tell that if you enable CONFIG_MODVERSIONS you can _always_ misc different kernel/modules... I never could do it, also trying it with insmod -f! I always get messages like: unresolbed symbols... this module for kernel x dosn't match your kernel y -- this module for kernel x doesn't match your kernel x Is there more info somewhere? Also I would like to get more info about kernel symbols and System.map/psdatabase ... etc.. Any comment will be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Ulisses -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux and ADSL
Do a bit a research before you take the plunge. I almost went with MTT (in nova scotia) and their ADSL service. However, I found out that they are using some nasty proprietary Novell gunk. I went with a cable modem instead. The install was very sweet. Before the tech came I installed and tested an ethernet card. I installed Dhcpcd (?? what ever the client prog is). When the tech came I plugged in the modem to my card and I started /etc/init.d/dhcpcd. 3 seconds later I was surfing the net :-) The tech's comment: Wow, that was easier then a Mac install with built in ethernet. :-) I edited the /etc/init.d/dhcpcd script. I added the option -- eth0 as I have multiple cards. (The -- tells start-stop-daemon that the rest of the line is cmd args to the daemon.) -- Stephen Gregory In my area ( Pacific Bell ) the connection to ADSL is ethernet. You simply get rid of the PPP connection and install a standard ethernet card. On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, rob wrote: Hi there, My local phone company is offering internet access through ADSL and I'm considering hooking up with them. Could someone tell me what all would be involved in changing over my Linux box to use their ADSL instead of using my dialup PPP? Does their modem require special drivers? thanks, rob George Bonser If NT is the answer, you didn't understand the question. (NOTE: Stolen sig) http://www.debian.org Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
(Off-topic)Jade and DocBook
Hi Just want to know if there is someone here who is using both those things ? If there is then I will talk to you privately. Thanks Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: perl module to read config files?
Sounds like a perfect job for bison and flex. Having looked at the syntax of the new files I'm guessing they follow a nice, strict (easy to program for) syntax. If you get the source it's probably got a parser embedded in it. It shouldn't be difficult to translate c to perl. Craig Sanders wrote: does anyone know of a perl module to parse config files as used by gated or the new bind 8.1? e.g. /etc/named.conf: options { directory /var/named; forward only; forwarders { 203.16.167.1; 203.16.167.5; }; }; zone . { type hint; file named.root; }; zone localhost { type master; file named.local; }; zone 127.in-addr.arpa { type master; file named.rev-local; }; craig -- craig sanders -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Using xmodmap to set the Alt and Meta keys (emacs, X, and Alt key)
Mark Phillips wrote: I, like Thomas Vaughan, have been having problems getting emacs to recognise the Alt key under X. (The system is a Toshiba laptop.) keycode 64 = Alt_L keycode 113 = Alt_R keycode 115 = Meta_L keycode 116 = Meta_R What does emacs say when you invoke describe-key: `C-h k Alt-x' `C-h k Meta-x' Do you *really* want an Alt key? Or do you want a Meta key? When Emacs has separate Alt and Meta keys, I think it doesn't use the Alt key as Meta anymore. You appear to have both available My keyboard has this bottom row; the keycode are as shown by the `xev' command: ++ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ ++ ++ |Ctrl| |Win| |Alt| | Space | |Alt| |Win| |Menu| |Ctrl| ++ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ ++ ++ keycode: 37115 64 113 116 117109 If XFree is setup correctly, then the `Windows' key (identified above as Win), are Meta keys and the Alt keys are really seen in Emacs as Alt keys. I use the Alt key to insert 8-bit characters, like é. The `Menu' key really works and is a synonym for `Meta-x' in Emacs (and pops up a buffer-specific menu in XEmacs). When XFree isn't properly set up, or gets confused for some reason, you can use `xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap' in some X initialisation file. Here's my ~/.Xmodmap file: --- clear Mod1 clear Mod2 clear Mod3 keycode 64 = Alt_L keycode 113 = Alt_R keycode 115 = Meta_L keycode 116 = Meta_R keycode 117 = Menu add Mod2 = Alt_L add Mod2 = Alt_R add Mod1 = Meta_L add Mod1 = Meta_R remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Hyper_L add Mod3 = Hyper_L keycode 22 = BackSpace --- In addition to setting Alt and Meta keys, I disable the silly Caps_Lock key and set a `Hyper' key so I can define more user keys in Emacs (Most people just set an extra Control key here). Also, I make sure to set the BackSpace key correctly. Hope this helps you and others, -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Modules and Debian
Sorry for the elementary nature of the question but I am not happy with my current understanding of module configuration under Debian. I'm not very good at understanding Linux documentation yet. /usr/doc/modules == contains a group of stubs that tell me they are there for backwards compatibility. /usr/doc/modutils == contains a file that says These utilities are intended primarily for use with kernels 2.1.18 and above. Anyway what I really want to know is the purpose of the files /etc/init.d/modules (which is a symlink to /etc/init.d/modutils) /etc/modules /etc/conf.modules Here's what I think I understand so far. /etc/init.d/modutils says it loads the appropriate modules in 'boot'. I suppose this means /etc/init.d/boot which seems to load modules in /etc/init.d/modutils. Which one is doing what? I think this couple of files are for the loading of modules needed before kerneld? Like modules to mount file-systems in fstab ? /etc/modules I like this one. Nice and uncomplicated (spot the non-shell programmer) Contains the comment # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. (I thought that was what the previously mentioned file did) I have auto commented out in this file so this means: kerneld will load these modules as I need them? If I had auto uncommented it would mean: kerneld would load them all at boot time (but not in time for things like file-systems in fstab) ? /etc/conf.modules = Contains only aliases for modules and options to load them? I added an option line in this file specifying my net card settings to prevent auto-probing at boot. This email was brought to you today by the letter 'm' -- John Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lynx.net.au/~jspence -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Modules and Debian
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, John Spence wrote: /etc/init.d/modules (which is a symlink to /etc/init.d/modutils) The package to manage kernel modules used to be called modules. It was renamed upstream to modutils and we followed the naming convention. The modules symlink is to make sure that incompletely upgraded systems don't break. /etc/init.d/modutils says it loads the appropriate modules in 'boot'. I suppose this means /etc/init.d/boot which seems to load modules in /etc/init.d/modutils. Which one is doing what? I think this couple of files are for the loading of modules needed before kerneld? Like modules to mount file-systems in fstab ? Close. /etc/init.d/boot runs /etc/init.d/modutils to actually perform the work of loading up the modules needed at boot time. /etc/modules I like this one. Nice and uncomplicated (spot the non-shell programmer) Contains the comment # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. (I thought that was what the previously mentioned file did) I have auto commented out in this file so this means: kerneld will load these modules as I need them? If I had auto uncommented it would mean: kerneld would load them all at boot time (but not in time for things like file-systems in fstab) ? If you uncomment auto, kerneld (which autoloads and unloads modules according to need) is started at the beginning of the boot sequence. If it is commented out, kerneld loads closer to the end of the boot sequence. The other lines list modules that should be loaded manually at the beginning of the boot sequence and which won't be automagically unloaded later. /etc/conf.modules = Contains only aliases for modules and options to load them? I added an option line in this file specifying my net card settings to prevent auto-probing at boot. Pretty much. It is the config file for modprobe/kerneld and the manpages for them may document it further. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Modules and Debian
John Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JS Here's what I think I understand so far. JS JS /etc/init.d/modutils JS JS says it loads the appropriate modules in 'boot'. I suppose this JS means /etc/init.d/boot which seems to load modules in JS /etc/init.d/modutils. Which one is doing what? I think this JS couple of files are for the loading of modules needed before JS kerneld? Like modules to mount file-systems in fstab ? Will, /etc/init.d/boot disappeared from hamm a while ago. I'm not sure _what_ this comment means. But this script does four things: -- Check that modules exist. -- If the modules exist but there's no dependency file (i.e. new kernel), build the dependency file. -- Load the modules listed in /etc/modules. -- Load any modules symlinked into /lib/modules/boot. The other script worth (briefly) staring at is /etc/init.d/kerneld, which starts kerneld if it hasn't already been started. These two scripts take care of everything dealing with boot-time module configuration. JS /etc/modules JS JS I like this one. Nice and uncomplicated (spot the non-shell JS programmer) JS JS Contains the comment # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at JS boot time. (I thought that was what the previously mentioned file JS did) /etc/init.d/modutils actually loads the modules listed here. JS I have auto commented out in this file so this means: kerneld JS will load these modules as I need them? Right; but kerneld gets started after sysklogd and watchdog. Look in /etc/rc2.d to see what the order of these things is. kerneld will _always_ get started unless you have noauto in /etc/modules. JS If I had auto uncommented it would mean: kerneld would load them JS all at boot time (but not in time for things like file-systems in JS fstab) ? It would start kerneld before running any of the scripts linked to /etc/rc2.d. For me, this is important because I need to be able to load modules before starting either syslogd (unix) or watchdog (softdog). I could also load these modules by putting entries in /etc/modules and letting kerneld start later. At system start time, things happen in the order listed in /etc/rcS.d. So modutils happens before mountall, and loading kerneld here (as opposed to later, in /etc/rc2.d/S12kerneld) would let you dynamically load modules for filesystems you need to mount things. JS /etc/conf.modules JS = JS Contains only aliases for modules and options to load them? JS JS I added an option line in this file specifying my net card settings to JS prevent auto-probing at boot. Yup. Absolutely correct. Good luck... -- _ / \ The cat's been in the box for over | David Maze | 20 years. Nobody's feeding it. The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |cat is dead. | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Grant, on Schroedinger's Cat \_/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
greenbush
Last night I received a message from Paul Wade, he said that he now has power and is cutting cdrom's. I did not expect this level of customer service. I hope everyone in Paul's family has come through this ordeal well. (the power i mean) (sorry for this off topic message) But I thought that it needed to be said. I know some people on this list have not had good experence with paul, mine has been good. I hope anyone that is owed a cdrom will contact him and keep an open mind. Just for the record, I have no connection with paul other than as a satisfied customer. --Jeff P.S. I was without power for a week during hurricane Fran, but that was in the summer! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: telnet to localhost
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: I can not telnet or ftp to localhost, it says that service is not started, but I can see them in /etc/service, can some body tell me where should I check for this error? Further more I can not even ftp or http to my box from the net, even thou my apache and wuftpd is up and running.., it says something like connection closed by my server. but I can do every outbound connection like ftp, telnet to the others from my box, right now running kernel 2.0.32... thanks kusuma Kasuma, The reason you cannot telnet or ftp is that the inetd daemon is not running. Even when off the 'net', telnet, ftp and many other daemons are started by the inetd daemon. Think of inetd as a supervisor daemon. You can get inetd or a similar package called xinetd ( which I use ). The inetd daemon comes with netbase so you should have it. The xinetd daemon has it's own package and is called xinetd ( what else :)). Hope this helps. Myron. .sig is not available right now. Leave you name, number and something inspirational after the dotted line and it will get back to you as soon as possible. . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Interrupts and serial ports
I have my modem and my UPS both connected to serial ports with the same interupt. Seems to work OK. These are both on the same card which was modified (not a lot of fun) to share the interupt. JDR Microdevices sells a 4-port serial board that is supposed to support shared interupts. On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Dan Hugo wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0setserial confused me to. But after all I've figuered out, that linux (on my machine) does NOT support 2 serials on the same interupt. What happens is, that they both are not useable. I have set the jumpers on my ... hmmm ... let me look ... AdLib ISA POWER 221 card (which has 2 serial, 2 parallel and 1 game port) to have the two extra serials as /dev/ttyS2 and /dev/ttyS3 (COM3: and COM4:) with interupts 11 and 12. And I have edited the 0setserial file as shown below: - /etc/rc.boot/0setserial --- [snip] - ... # # The typical user will only have 2 serial ports. To try and minimise # problems, all other configurations have been commented out! # ${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS2 ${AUTO_IRQ} skip_test autoconfig ${STD_FLAGS} ${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS3 ${AUTO_IRQ} skip_test autoconfig ${STD_FLAGS} ... - /etc/rc.boot/0setserial --- [snap] - As you can see, I have taken the '#' out. That's all. I have a Bo-unstable drop from about almost a year ago, and that comment is not in there... thought I did get everything working just right for my current setup, which is ttyS0 - Modem ttyS1 - PalmPilot (or whatever it's called now). I just got a BestPower Fortress (needed it), and I would like to hook up a serial laser printer and, if it works, leave it hooked up. I'm not necessarily short on interrupts yet, but I figured it would be interesting of the slower items could just share an interrupt. Oh well... -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sound.net/~wpmills/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
STuck - Dselect FTP through Firewall
What is dselect passing to my ftp proxy??? I can go through the firewall manually but I need to figure out exactly what commands dselect is generating. Can I monitor this somehow I do not have man pages or anything to help me because I can not run dselect from ftp and I do not have the CD. (And even if I did the box I am putting Debian on does not have a CD) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Using xmodmap to set the Alt and Meta keys (emacs, X, and Alt key)
Peter S Galbraith writes: If XFree is setup correctly, then the `Windows' key (identified above as Win), are Meta keys and the Alt keys are really seen in Emacs as Alt keys. I use the Alt key to insert 8-bit characters, like é. The `Menu' key really works and is a synonym for `Meta-x' in Emacs (and pops up a buffer-specific menu in XEmacs). What is the 'correct' setup in XF86Config for a keyboard with windows keys? What Xkb* parameters need to changed from defaults and to what? Thanks, Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Allow only certain users to print?
I want to only let a few users print, using lprng. I put the following line in lpd.perms, but it didn't seem to have any effect: REJECT SERVICE=P SERVER NOT USER=blp,brook,laura,root Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help!
Why I can Not Post! --- Jeffrey Velez * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://jvelez2.med.miami.edu UM, MNS * 165 Dominion Garage * Miami, FL 33136 * 305/243-3664 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
user management
Is there a program that is similar to Novell's syscon program? Linux really needs a good user management program (terminal-based) that can quickly add/remove groups, set passwords/info fields, delete users, set quotas, etc --- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED], finger for public PGP key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Clean hamm installation
No, I never used --force-blah. The trouble was that I had xdm going, and my video card cannot start X more than once (unless there is a reboot in between) - my card is a Diamond Stealth 3000 3D. Also, I had followed the upgrade mini-HOWTO, but had not upgraded libgdbm and perl (since this was only 'suggested' by the HOWTO - as opposed to being said to be necessary). Because of this, a lot of packages were having many troubles configuring themselves (I know that this occurs anyway, but it seemed much worse this time). Then, the install stopped and started xdm and my machine hung. I have to press 'reset' at this time (there is no other way to bring it back). When the machine rebooted, it was in an unusable state. I suppose I could have brought it back (I tried several suggestions offered on the lists, but that just got me to another problem, and another, and another). After this, I gave up and retinstalled. This was not too bad, because my installation was quite old and was not entirely 'clean' (beacuse I had learned to use Debian on this machine). Its just too bad - I had had it going since buzz... I think that, if I had waited a week (and kept up with debian-user), I would have had no troubles. I am just wondering about those people out there who are not reading the mailing list... Paul On 16-Jan-98 Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 03:15:14PM -0700, Paul Rightley wrote: Yes, I understand very well NOW that there are no hamm disks yet. My point was that this upgrade of Debian is really expecting a lot of typical Debian users. At first glance, I thought that disks under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386 would actually belong to the unstable distribution. It is such slight perception that can really make things difficult for most users. For instance, Scott Ellis' Mini-HOWTO is very good - I followed all of the portions of it that called out specific packages and that didn't seem like suggestions (as opposed to necessary steps). In this case, I did not upgrade libgdm1 and perl and due to another (slight) circumstance, was left with an unusable system after I launched dselect. Did you ever use --force-blah with dpkg? Was it ever possible to hose your system without using --force-blah? I upgraded my system before Scott's HOWTO was written; at that stage it was fairly simple and all the dependencies seemed to prevent me from doing anything wrong. IIRC, it was basically a case of installing new ld.so, removing the libc5 -dev libraries, installing libc6, installing the hamm non-g libraries, then installing the hamm g libraries, then anything else, like bash. For a while I only upgraded the libraries (just to support running new libc6 stuff from hamm), not bothering with existing packages. Never any sign of trouble. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Paul Rightley DX-3 Hydrodynamics, MS P940 Los Alamos National LaboratoryLos Alamos, NM 87545 Phone: (505)667-0460 Fax: (505)665-3359 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Newbie Setting up LPRng
I installed LPRng on my linux machine using dselect. How do I set this program to print to my Remote HP LaserJet 4 using a JetDirect Box? It's on a Novell Server 4.1. I never printed on my linux machine, so I don't know if it is setup already. Please Help! Thanks! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
anyone using proftpd?
Is anyone using proftpd? How does it compare to wu-ftp? Security? I noticed a huge amount of disk access (compared to wu-ftp) in a old version of proftpd... I don't know if it has been fixed or changed.. --- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED], finger for public PGP key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: user management
Paul Miller writes: Is there a program that is similar to Novell's syscon program? Linux really needs a good user management program (terminal-based) that can quickly add/remove groups, set passwords/info fields, delete users, set quotas, etc --- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED], finger for public PGP key Check out ftp://ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/ACMAINT/ It is a user management program that was built by folks at Purdue University to handle the user base of thousands of students and machines! I know it has support for lots of different OS's. I have used it as an end user on a Sun machine and it is VERY powerful and does everthing you mentioned. I have not tried building it on a Linux box. If you get it working on a Linux box I think it has been added to the list of possible packages for Debian. Good luck, Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ATI 3D Rage II and XFree86
There is a web site on how to configure this board. Sorry, I forget the exact site name. Do a search on the web for ATI Rage and Linux. I think you also need the 3.3.1 version of Xfree mach64 -- do you have that or are you using the debian stable 3.3 version? I installed X on an ATI Mach64 3D RAGE Pro, so this may not apply to the Rage II, but you can check. For the rage pro card, the key part is in the Device section, and the ChipID and ChipRev fields, which you need to manually add after running xf86config... # Device configured by xf86config: Section Device Identifier ATI Mach64 3D RAGE Pro, Internal RAMDAC VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown VideoRam2048 ChipID 0x4754 ChipRev 0x01 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Franz Karrer wrote: I installed the Debian 1.31 kernel 20.2.29 on my Pc. Now I have problems in finding the proper xserver configuration for the ATI 3D Rage II videoboard. I tried svga and mach64 server where I can select - from xf86config - the ATI 3D Rage II,Ramdac option, but I don't know which Ramdac types and clock cycles I should select. When I try startx I get some black screens except for the 800*600 resolution, which flickers terribly. The monitor supports 31-86 kHz, 50-160 Hz. The board runs fine on WIN95 with a 1024*768 resolution. Does anybody know how to configure the board? Best regards, Franz Karrer -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
using cd-jukebox under linux
Hi all, I need to use a cd-jukebox and I hope I can do it under linux. It's a SCSI thing has 14 drives and takes up 2 SCSI ids (2x7 discs). Now it's attached to a win3.11 box with an adaptec 2940AU. Problem is that machine sees all the drives at boot time, but there's no way to access them under windows (letters/drives show, but they're all empty). I don't want to mess with win95 + have a linux box running debian with a 2.0.27 kernel. I'm ready to recompile it, and would like to ask if there's any doc about using such beast .. I guess I have to use CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN, but what else? when all it's up, under which devices will I found the drives? /dev/scd? Should I create other /dev/scd? devices (I see only scd0 and scd1)? Any experience is welcome. FWIW, debian machine is an IBM 315 with 128 MB ram, adaptec 2940UW, SCSI cd, SCSI tape, running mostly as a samba server. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
proftpd - can't read
I can't see my files or directories with proftpd 1.0 ... same for both anonymous and system user... what is wrong? I don't think proftpd needs the /lib, etc dirs.. ??? --- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED], finger for public PGP key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
netscape3.04 installer
hi everybody, i was wondering if there was a deb installer for netscape3.04 file. if there is can somebody point me to the right place. Thanks in advance. paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: anyone using proftpd?
Is anyone using proftpd? How does it compare to wu-ftp? Security? I noticed a huge amount of disk access (compared to wu-ftp) in a old version of proftpd... I don't know if it has been fixed or changed.. I'm using proftpd without any problems. However someone reported a problem with it when downloading large numbers of files, I don't know how that came out. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: anyone using proftpd?
hmm.. I just installed the newest Debian version and I can't see the directory listing... ever have this problem? BTW- the bug your talking about should be fixed.. it says something about that on their homepage. On 21 Jan 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: Is anyone using proftpd? How does it compare to wu-ftp? Security? I noticed a huge amount of disk access (compared to wu-ftp) in a old version of proftpd... I don't know if it has been fixed or changed.. I'm using proftpd without any problems. However someone reported a problem with it when downloading large numbers of files, I don't know how that came out. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs, X, and Alt key
Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I, like Thomas Vaughan, have been having problems getting emacs to recognise the Alt key under X. (The system is a Toshiba laptop.) Daniel Martin wrote: What is the result of the following commands: xmodmap xmodmap -pke | grep -E '64|11[356]' Here are the results: $ xmodmap xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lockCaps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) mod1Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71) mod2Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4Meta_L (0x73), Meta_R (0x74) mod5Scroll_Lock (0x4e) $ xmodmap -pke | grep -E '64|11[356]' keycode 64 = Alt_L keycode 113 = Alt_R keycode 115 = Meta_L keycode 116 = Meta_R I can't see anything particularly wrong here - but then, I'm no expert. Is something not right? The `problem' is that the Alt keys aren't acting as the Meta keys - instead, your X is configured to have the Windows-Logo keys act as Meta. XFree86 does this if you tell it that you have a 104-key keyboard (the keyboards without these amusing keys are 101-key keyboards). Based on earlier correspondence with the original person who posted this problem, I think that XFree86 may now default to 104-key keyboard behavior unless you tell it otherwise. Anyway, there are two ways to fix this: 1) Tell XFree86 that you have a 101-key keyboard. I wouldn't do this unless you actually do have a 101-key keyboard, as I'm uncertain whether or not XFree86 will then freak out when you accidentally hit one of the Win95 keys. It's probably still safe, but you might want do just go with solution (2) anyway. You can do this by editing /etc/X11/XF86Config - if you have something a group of lines that begins with 'section Keyboard', change that group of lines to read: Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard XkbRulesxfree86 XkbModelpc101 XkbLayout us EndSection Actually, if you already have such a section I'd leave it in place and just change the XkbModel line. If you don't have a us keyboard layout, then either re-run XF86Setup and choose your keyboard explicitly there, or use solution 2. You'll need to restart X for the changes to take effect. 2) Just force the Alt keys to act as Meta Add the following lines to the end of your /etc/X11/Xmodmap: keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L keycode 113 = Alt_R Meta_R Then either restart X or issue the command: xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap Depending on how Emacs handles certain X events, you may need to exit Emacs and restart it. (I use Xemacs, which handles these events properly, and so don't know what Emacs does) (and before someone jumps in to say that the above lines will mean that you have to press Shift-Alt to use Meta, let me just point you to the xmodmap man page, q.v.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie Setting up LPRng
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Jeffrey Velez wrote: I installed LPRng on my linux machine using dselect. How do I set this program to print to my Remote HP LaserJet 4 using a JetDirect Box? It's on a Novell Server 4.1. Take a look at the documentation: http://www.astart.com/lprng/LPRng.html -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
How to share files with Win95 or NT
How do I get files off Win NT or 95 machines across my LAN. I have TCP/IP running. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT
Cox wrote: How do I get files off Win NT or 95 machines across my LAN. I have TCP/IP running. Install samba and use smbclient to go to your share on the box. Or, compile the kernel with smb support and use smbmount to mount the remote share locally. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT]
You have to run some sort of server program on the 95 or NT machine, you can find free and shareware applications for this at www.tucows.com. You could also run ftp from the 95 or NT machine and put the files on the Linux box. -- Save the Whales -- Collect the whole set [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- How do I get files off Win NT or 95 machines across my LAN. I have TCP/IP running. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . ---End Message---
Re: emacs, X, and Alt key
Hi, Well it may not quite follow the discussion... I'm using XEmacs 20 and X-3.2.2 (hamm). I have the keyboard with Windows button neighbouring to ALT button. It works like ESC in XEmacs. May be it's good enough solution. The good thing is that I just followed whatever was the default in those X,XEmacs installations. The Keyboard Section in XF86Config is: Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard XkbKeymap xfree86(us) EndSection Sasha. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: telnet to localhost
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: I can not telnet or ftp to localhost, it says that service is not started, but I can see them in /etc/service, can some body tell me where should I check for this error? Further more I can not even ftp or http to my box from the net, even thou my apache and wuftpd is up and running.., it says something like connection closed by my server. Try calling inetd manually ... /usr/sbin/inetd This i have now seen mentioned by a few ppl including myself.. inetd is not starting at boot. I'm using netbase version 3.03-1 and have been haveing this problem since upgrading. anyone have any ideas?? kernel 2.0.32 Debian 2.0 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: anyone using proftpd?
Paul == Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Is anyone using proftpd? How does it compare to wu-ftp? Paul Security? I noticed a huge amount of disk access (compared Paul to wu-ftp) in a old version of proftpd... I don't know if it Paul has been fixed or changed.. We've been using it at my ISP, got.net, for a few months, with great results. A few settings needed to be changed (ProFTPD doesn't allow you to put a file on top of another file by default) but the virtual domains work great :) -- Brought to you by the letters I and D and the number 9. Make a little birdhouse in your soul. -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT
See, the problem is I have a computer with no CD. I have a network card and I am behind a corporate fire wall. I can not get dselect to work through my firewall so I thought if I set up a CD on a win95 box as shareable then I might get dselect to work that way. But I don't have samba on this box, I just have the basic install files. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/21/98, at 2:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cox wrote: How do I get files off Win NT or 95 machines across my LAN. I have TCP/IP running. Install samba and use smbclient to go to your share on the box. Or, compile the kernel with smb support and use smbmount to mount the remote share locally. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT
Cox wrote: See, the problem is I have a computer with no CD. I have a network card= and I am behind a corporate fire wall. I can not get dselect to work= through my firewall so I thought if I set up a CD on a win95 box as= shareable then I might get dselect to work that way. But I don't have samba on this box, I just have the basic install files. Ah... IIRC, you can set up the NT ftpd, as broken as it is, and point your CD somewhere in the ftp tree. Then you can use the ftp method of dselect. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MWave Modem
tommy knocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an IBM computer with debian installed and it uses an internal Mwave modem. I can't seem so write a script that will initialize the modem. Does anybody have a script that will work with this modem that I can look at? I have bad news I have bad news. The answer is almost certainly: buy a pcmcia modem. AFAIK, there is no support for MWave devices in linux, mainly because IBM/(what is their name ?) won't provide documentaion without lots of legal/economic strings. -- Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT
No, I can't get dselect ftp to work throught my firewall. I can manually ftp but dselect gets stuck. I have been trying to get dselect to work for three days with no good help from the user-list. So now I am trying to figure out a way to copy the files or run dselect from a shared CD off of one of my windows computers. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/21/98, at 2:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cox wrote: See, the problem is I have a computer with no CD. I have a network card= and I am behind a corporate fire wall. I can not get dselect to work= through my firewall so I thought if I set up a CD on a win95 box as= shareable then I might get dselect to work that way. But I don't have samba on this box, I just have the basic install files. Ah... IIRC, you can set up the NT ftpd, as broken as it is, and point your CD somewhere in the ftp tree. Then you can use the ftp method of dselect. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT
Cox wrote: No, I can't get dselect ftp to work throught my firewall. I can manually ftp but dselect gets stuck. I have been trying to get= dselect to work for three days with no good help from the user-list. So now I am trying to figure out a way to copy the files or run dselect= from a shared CD off of one of my windows computers. I thought your NT box was on your side of the firewall. Sorry, I miss understood. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
logging into Winnt from linux
Hi there, I have recently installed Debian Linux 1.3.1 Kernel 2.30.0 at work. We run a WinNt server 3.51 Is there any client I can use to log onto the WinNt server from my linux box and get access to all my resources on the server and also get Microsoft mail. Will I be able to use the resources of the machines in my workgroup? I can ping all of the servers. DHCP is working and I can ping gateways and machines in the workgroup. Any help will be greatly appreciated Gary -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Cox wrote: How do I get files off Win NT or 95 machines across my LAN. I have TCP/IP running. You can use smbclient and smbmount with approximately the same syntax as under Win96 and NT: \\where\what To use smbmount you have make sure your kernel supports the smbfs These tools are in the ksmbfs and samba packages. HTH, Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp-key (during normal european business time hours) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to share files with Win95 or NT
I don't think that is that great of a suggestion. I am trying to run deselect for the first time. You know how many different files to is going to download.It would take all day to ftp these files to my local drive. That is what dselect is supposed to do. Now, can anyone tell me is there a way to monitor or capture the commands dselect is issuing to my ftp proxy??? I can watch from the firewall and see that dselect gets stuck. But I can't tell what is going on. I think the open command that dselect is sending to my proxy is getting rejected by the proxy and then the proxy is waiting for dselect to retry but it never does. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/21/98, at 2:26 PM, Ian Keith Setford wrote: No, I can't get dselect ftp to work throught my firewall. I can manually ftp but dselect gets stuck. I have been trying to get dselect to work for three days with no good help from the user-list. You can manually ftp beyond your firewall? If so, just ftp the packages to your computer and use dpkg -i. An even better way, if you have web access through the firewall would be to go to Debian's web page and locate the packages that way. The web based version will also list any dependencies you might need. -Ian _ .__. __ __ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \ \/ / | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | \ \/ / | |__ | | | | \ \| | | |_| | / / \ \ |__|__.|__| |__| \| |___| /_/ \_\ * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
super: does syslog work?
I've attempt to use the documented feature of super to direct its logging information to the syslog daemon without success. Logging to a file works. Here's an extract from /etc/super.tab: :global \ gethostbyname=n \ logfile=/var/log/super.log \ rlog_host=localhost \ syslog=y Any ideas why this doesn't work? -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs, X, and Alt key
Hi Mark! I, like Thomas Vaughan, have been having problems getting emacs to recognise the Alt key under X. (The system is a Toshiba laptop.) I'm running a Toshiba Tecra 730CDT, and the Alt key in emacs under X works fine in combination with other keys without any special setup. What model is your laptop and what window manager are you using? One problem with fvwm2 it is the line in /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc which breaks Meta-mouse: Mouse 0 W M move-and-raise-or-raiselower I fix it by adding this line to my ~/.fvwm2/post.hook: Mouse 0 W M - Meta-mouse is used in emacs for secondary selection. I will bring this up with the fvwm2 maintainer if this line is still in the hamm version. Kirk Hilliard P.S. I would rather use emacs -nw in an xterm than use emacs in its own window if it were not for secondary selection and mouse-yank-at-point. Put (setq mouse-yank-at-point t) in your ~/.emacs and give it a try. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Interrupts and serial ports
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, W Paul Mills wrote: I have my modem and my UPS both connected to serial ports with the same interupt. Seems to work OK. These are both on the same card which was modified (not a lot of fun) to share the interupt. JDR Microdevices sells a 4-port serial board that is supposed to support shared interupts. OK Paul, but a *normal* standard serial port card has two 16550xx UARTs a two connectors. These cards are AFAIK not able to share interupts correctly. It works sometimes, when you don't use the corresponding port at the same time, but this is not my thing. And if you have a AMD-586DX/120 in an old VESA local bus motherboard, it could be impossible (like it was for me). Now for something completely different! You talk about a JDR Microdevices card with 4 ports. is it supported by linux??? How much does it cost??? Because I could use some more ports at a communication box at work, which should run Debian, if everything goes right. Thanx in advance! Daniel - - - - Daniel Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Ingolstadt, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - If Win95 is the answer, it must have been a real foolish question ! - - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Requires PGP version 2.6 or later. iQEVAwUBNMZj7wnLrgqPNGtBAQGvzAgArmTunPzm22hmaYllmuBMkFJu+QqWi9GY gMk1U45WubxIAUuysUyfBbXjsfpJWvPrPqNGVrFHU0C201uMTuxGnNIQaodcgjwb wydqSEI0HmDiFo3iemorE3mJYR14/C5kRpKBHVym4Pv+fs70Zmf7lHLWDrYbynQh JtRK0i6LjvJi7KFIht5EScMiI18l10V1xt/7znbwDWwtXCvGPDP0RThOitoIIQPw 6XFzKFOjLo2o6iCOIwFQfPW20MLPvspO7kSTeyoQNjuUd0L6Kmw5qSkg7FqZXGxO a4JBmSVdPF58yEX/ib7kiOJUh6aAOScvQOl2touTuq70nR/ufWgnBQ== =XZTY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Interrupts and serial ports
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You talk about a JDR Microdevices card with 4 ports. is it supported by linux??? How much does it cost??? Because I could use some more ports at a communication box at work, which should run Debian, if everything goes right. AST used to make a 4 port card that used 1 interrupt. There are a few clones out there. DFI makes/made one, and I think JDR does too. The setserial script has support for the cards. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie Setting up LPRng
I installed LPRng on my linux machine using dselect. How do I set this program to print to my Remote HP LaserJet 4 using a JetDirect Box? It's on a Novell Server 4.1. I never printed on my linux machine, so I don't know if it is setup already. Hi, I haven't used LPRng, so this message assumes you'll have similar problems with LPRng as with lpr. You may have several problems here. You can check the debian archive for an email which shows how to set up the /etc/printcap to route through magicfilter and then out to a network printer. You need to do this because you can't use an input filter directly when printing to a network printer. old posting: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9712/msg02272.html Another problem is that the JetDirect box is running with Novell. I think you have to choose either lpr or Novell support when setting up the JetDirect. I couldn't get my JetDirect to work directly with win95 machines on the network and debian/solaris lpr, so the win95 machines print to the lp-r printcap entry on a debian machine. On debian, this entry is normally used when files are sent to lp, filtered by magicfilter, and then sent to lp-r (the printer). For win95, you don't need the first two steps, so just send the files to the printer. In win95 set up the printer type for the actual printer and use samba on the debian machine to export the printer. If you can't run lpr and novell support on the JetDirect, and you don't want to change all the machines on the network to print through the debian box, then I can't help you. There may be a way to print from debian to a novell print server, but I don't have any idea how to do it. Please post if your JetDirect supports lpr and novell concurrently or if not how you solved the problem. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Next Level Communications[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: super: does syslog work?
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: I've attempt to use the documented feature of super to direct its logging information to the syslog daemon without success. Logging to a file works. Here's an extract from /etc/super.tab: :global \ gethostbyname=n \ logfile=/var/log/super.log \ rlog_host=localhost \ syslog=y Any ideas why this doesn't work? the rloghost=localhost line above makes me think that super is trying to use syslog via a network connection to the syslog port of localhost instead of using the syslog() function calls in the libc. by default, syslogd does NOT accept network connections from any host (including localhost, i believe) because that is a potential security hole (a DoS attack to fill up the syslog host's disks with garbage is easy to construct). read the docs for syslogd to find out how to turn it on and why you probably shouldn't. you would be better off seeing if you can get super to log via calls to syslog() rather than network syslogging. in /usr/doc/super/examples there is an example showing : # Also log via syslog (just for demonstration :-). :global syslog=y This may or may not do what you want - i.e it may not try a network connecttion to syslog unless you give it an rlog_host definition. experiment. craig -- craig sanders -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Sharing a single logon with Unix NT
Help, This is not 100% Debian specific, but should apply to Debian as well as other Unix flavors. I've been tasked with rolling out Windows 95 NT, but I still need to provide NFS access to some Unix boxes (we use Beame Whiteside NFS). Ideally I'd like to be able to logon once to NT and / or Unix via Windows 95. Any suggestions ( except junk NT grin ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
upgrade to hamm == X problems
Yesterday i upgraded from bo to hamm. That went pretty well, but X broke. I ran out of disk space during the X upgrade, and i thought maybe that was the problem. I removed all the X packages and reinstalled on a roomier disk, hoping that would fix things. It didnt, X still doesnt work. It worked fine with bo but when i start the server under hamm, my machine switches to video mode, blanks the screen, and stops talking to the console. The server output looks normal (looks like it's not aware there's a problem). I cant switch virtual consoles, i cant toggle numlock, but i can ping the machine and i can log in remotely. I can also reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Del. I'm using an old Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 card (S3 based). I can run the VGA16 server ok, but not the accellerated S3 server. Any ideas? I guess the transition from XFree86 3.3 to 3.3.1 broke support for my card... I'll go look at the XFree web site. Sebastian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: telnet to localhost
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: I can not telnet or ftp to localhost, it says that service is not started, but I can see them in /etc/service, can some body tell me where should I check for this error? there are several possible causes for this: 1. check the log files in /var/log (especially daemon.log) - the problem may be obvious from the logs. 2. is inetd running? if not, why not? fix it. 3. check to see if you have an entry for 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts, or that your name server is resolving lookups for localhost, localhost.your.domain, and 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. if lookups on these names fail, then tcp wrappers PARANOIA setting is probably refusing connections to this unknown host 127.0.0.1 if this is the case, you can fix it by either: 1. fixing your nameserver to do localhost lookups properly 2. adding 127.0.0.1localhost to your /etc/hosts file 3. adding ALL: 127.0.0.1 to your /etc/hosts.allow file. if that doesn't help, check your routing table. you should have a host route for host 127.0.0.0 or a network route for network 127.0.0 via the lo interface. like this: $ route -n | grep ^127 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 143 lo Further more I can not even ftp or http to my box from the net, even thou my apache and wuftpd is up and running.., it says something like connection closed by my server. but I can do every outbound connection like ftp, telnet to the others from my box, right now running kernel 2.0.32... this could be caused by inetd or tcp wrappers problems as mentioned above. alternatively, it could be because your machine is on a private network (eg 10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x, 192.168.x.x) and is therefore unreachable from the internet. if you use some sort of Network Address Translation (NAT) or IP Masquerading to get out to the net then this is the case. craig -- craig sanders -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: errors in hamm upgrade
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Adam Klein wrote: Yes. Smail now rejects connections from hostnames which don't have a dot in them. The fix is to change the line in /etc/smail/config which reads '-smtp_hello_broken_allow' to read 'smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet'. I have the same (or a similar) problem, i.e. when I try to send mail using pine I get a message complaining that localhost doesn't have a . in it. But, the above fix didn't work, and neither does smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet:localhost:127.0.0.1 What does work is: smtp_hello_broken_allow=* but I'm not fond of that, for obvious reasons. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: super: does syslog work?
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: I've attempt to use the documented feature of super to direct its logging information to the syslog daemon without success. Logging to a file works. Here's an extract from /etc/super.tab: :global \ gethostbyname=n \ logfile=/var/log/super.log \ rlog_host=localhost \ syslog=y Any ideas why this doesn't work? the rloghost=localhost line above makes me think that super is trying to use syslog via a network connection to the syslog port of localhost instead of using the syslog() function calls in the libc. Already tried this without success. -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: upgrade to hamm == X problems
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: It worked fine with bo but when i start the server under hamm, my machine switches to video mode, blanks the screen, and stops talking to the console. The server output looks normal (looks like it's not aware there's a problem). I cant switch virtual consoles, i cant toggle numlock, but i can ping the machine and i can log in remotely. I can also reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Del. Are you sure you can't switch virtual consoles? I have the same problem in all other respects. I have to use ctrl-alt-f1 instead of alt-f1 to switch virtual consoles since X is running, did you forget about that? My power save light comes on and my monitor shuts off until I switch to a virtual console. The server output on the console is normal as you said. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
syslog and pipe router
Yo- I am trying to configure both my Debian machine and my Pipe 50 router to use syslog. I believe to have the Pipe 50 setup right according to the manual. I think linux isn't getting/accepting/writing the messages though. My pipe 50: Ethernet-Mod-Config-Log-Yes, 192.168.100.102 (Debian), Port 514, Local1 Debian: /etc/syslog.conf Local1.info /var/log/pipe.log Anything else? I do show syslog running and it is logging other events like start-up messages and such. According to the Ascend manual every time the Pipe 50 is connected to/from a record should be created in /var/log/pipe.log. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance! -Ian _ .__. __ __ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \ \/ / | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | \ \/ / | |__ | | | | \ \| | | |_| | / / \ \ |__|__.|__| |__| \| |___| /_/ \_\ * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: errors in hamm upgrade
David Gaudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Adam Klein wrote: Yes. Smail now rejects connections from hostnames which don't have a dot in them. The fix is to change the line in /etc/smail/config which reads '-smtp_hello_broken_allow' to read 'smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet'. I have the same (or a similar) problem, i.e. when I try to send mail using pine I get a message complaining that localhost doesn't have a . in it. But, the above fix didn't work, and neither does smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet:localhost:127.0.0.1 What does work is: smtp_hello_broken_allow=* but I'm not fond of that, for obvious reasons. Do you have a NIC running? Then you also have to add it's IP. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fdos package needed
I have tried without success to find the fdos package on the Debian FTP site. I need it because mkrboot depends on it. I need mkrboot because boot-floppie depends on it. In case I am going in the wrong direction, my ultimate goal is to make a Debian boot/rescue disk with a custom kernel and the installable modules necessary to boot from a single floppy and recognize my SCSI tape drive that is attached to my laptop via a PCMCIA card. I have this working from the hard disk, but need a way to restore my backups without having to re-install a base system before accessing PCMCIA modules. thanks, dion -- Dion Hollenbeck (619)597-7080x164 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vigra.com/~hollen Sr. Software Engineer - Vigra Div. of Visicom Labs San Diego, California -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: syslog and pipe router
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ian Keith Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo- I am trying to configure both my Debian machine and my Pipe 50 router to use syslog. I believe to have the Pipe 50 setup right according to the manual. I think linux isn't getting/accepting/writing the messages though. Ehm, did you add the -r flag to the syslogd invocation? Read the manpage .. Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | The dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac lay in his bed [EMAIL PROTECTED] | awake all night wondering if there is a doG -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: syslog and pipe router
Ian Keith Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to configure both my Debian machine and my Pipe 50 router to use syslog. I believe to have the Pipe 50 setup right according to the manual. I think linux isn't getting/accepting/writing the messages though. Syslog won't accept connections from the net unless you start it with -r. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]
My netscape 4.04 is also working just fine -- I did not have to do anything at all. Just downloaded, installed using debian packages and it just works. My configuration: hamm debian as of December 19 (all libc6 + some packages that cannot live without libc5) kernel: 2.1.78 To dial up I use X-ISP (I use the latest version -- I had to compile it myself and get the latest x-forms library) Vladislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: upgrade to hamm == X problems
David Gaudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ] Are you sure you can't switch virtual consoles? I have the same problem ] in all other respects. I have to use ctrl-alt-f1 instead of alt-f1 ] to switch virtual consoles since X is running I tried both Ctrl-Alt-F? and the regular Alt-F?. Neither works. I also tried logging in remotely and running 'sudo chvt ?', and that just sits there. I also cant kill the X server when logged in remotely. Something's definately pretty broken here... Sebastian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: syslog and pipe router
I'm assuming you mean Pipeline 50, and that's a dandy little piece of hardware! That's beside the point though. I can't offer you help but I share in your misery. I've had the same problem with a MicroRouter 900i. I've got everything set for syslog but I've never gotten a message from the thing. I gave up, assuming the unit just didn't work right, but now that I hear this I'm starting to wonder if maybe the syslog daemon isn't playing nice. Let me know if you figure anything out. Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- I am trying to configure both my Debian machine and my Pipe 50 router to use syslog. I believe to have the Pipe 50 setup right according to the manual. I think linux isn't getting/accepting/writing the messages though. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Network Problem
Hi there, A week ago I set up new Debian machine called marvin. It is an old 80386-40 CPU board with 40 MB of disk and 8 MB of RAM. The only work marvin will do is routing between Packet Radio network and home (local) network. After setting the network configuration files I can ping my working machine (called ide) from marvin. And I can also ping marvin from ide. NFS is also working as well. The trouble is telnet and ftp. ide works (I assume) well as I can telnet to it from my 3rd home computer But ide-marvin is the neck. On marvin I installed the base system plus netstd package. I can telnet to localhost (marvin) but I cannot get out from the machine. Hence rpc works well. I already spent a few days and have no idea what could be wrong. Have I missed some important packages or what? If anybody has any suggestion I would really appreciate it! Thanks! Uros -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: errors in hamm upgrade
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, David Gaudine wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Adam Klein wrote: Yes. Smail now rejects connections from hostnames which don't have a dot in them. The fix is to change the line in /etc/smail/config which reads '-smtp_hello_broken_allow' to read 'smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet'. I have the same (or a similar) problem, i.e. when I try to send mail using pine I get a message complaining that localhost doesn't have a . in it. But, the above fix didn't work, and neither does smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet:localhost:127.0.0.1 What does work is: smtp_hello_broken_allow=* but I'm not fond of that, for obvious reasons. In looking into the same problem, somewhere in the smail docs I found a mention that pine is somewhat broken and that the fix for this is to use: smtp_hello_broken_allow=127* Note: running smailconfig resets this, so you will need to re-edit the file after running this. Bob --- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Thanks!! syslog and pipe router
Jens: I got mine working. How about you? -Ian | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \ \/ / | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | \ \/ / | |__ | | | | \ \| | | |_| | / / \ \ |__|__.|__| |__| \| |___| /_/ \_\ * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .