Re: Los cores

1998-07-23 Thread Gerardo Aburruzaga Garcia
Ayer, Santiago Vila escribió:
 El mismo día, Enrique Zanardi tecleó:
  Antes de hoy, yo dije escribiendo:
   Por cierto que acabo de traducir bash(1), supongo que saldrá en la próxima
   versión de manpages-es (proyecto PAMELI).
 
  ¿Y por qué no en la próxima versión de bash?
 
Oye, por mí no hay pobrema, digo poblema. Encantado.

 Pues posiblemente porque la FSF no cree en las páginas man. Si algunas

¿Eh? ¿Cómorl? ¿Que no cree? Pues le puedo pasar unas 523 páginas man a la
FSF (¿Felisa Sánchez Fernández?) esa a ver si cree. Le aseguro que
existen. Otra cosa es creer en los extraterrestres, postergays, fantasmas,
o las noticias del Telediario de la 1, pero las páginas man existen y
tengo pruebas.  Se puede no creer en Dios, pero sí hay que creer en los
curas: los curas existen.  :-) 

 incluso no se actualizan, dudo bastante que ahora vayan a incluir

Ésta sí. El último cambio fue el 1 de abril (los .\ comentarios no los he
traducido).

.\
.\ MAN PAGE COMMENTS to
.\
.\ Chet Ramey
.\ Information Network Services
.\ Case Western Reserve University
.\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.\
.\ Last Change: Wed Apr  1 12:16:09 EST 1998
.\


 traducciones.
 
Pues tampoco les costaría mucho. En fin. Así estaría disponible para todos
los sistemas y no sólo para Linux. 

Es que el Info, sin duda, está muy bien, y es mucho mejor que el Man, pero
la gente ve cualquier sistema Unix y para buscar algo lo primero que hace
es man loquesea, y no se mete en el Info. Mucha gente ni siquiera sabe
que existe. 

Los de GNU son algo curiosos. El procesador de textos de GNU iba a ser
TeX, pero hicieron el gtroff. El editor iba a ser (evidentemente) Emacs,
pero hicieron elvis. El sistema de información iba a ser Info pero también
existen las páginas man. El núcleo iba a ser Hurd pero... Linux... :-)

O sea, Enrique, resumiendo: que por mí que se meta donde quepa, digo
donde sea; de momento va a PAMELI, cuyo coordinador es Juan Piernas, a
quien mando copia de ésta.
Un saludo a todos y una saluda a todas.
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RE Servidor de correo

1998-07-23 Thread J. Parera
Hola,
he leido en la guia garl (capítulo 14) que smail puede enviar el correo de
tres formas distintas:

  foreground - procesa inmediatamente los mensajes
  background - igual al anterior pero en segundo plano (procesos padre e
hijos)
  queued -- encolado

puestas en la variable delivery_mode del archivo config (imagino que
/etc/smail/config).

El correo siempre será encolado independientemente de la variable anterior
si en el mismo archivo hay una variable llamada queue_only.

Puede ser que el problema venga derivado de que yo no tengo esa/s
variable/s. Pero según he leido tambien en la guia garl si smail no puede
enviar un mensaje por la razón que sea entones lo pone en cola igualmente,
teniendose que correr runq después. Lo que me confunde un poco pués aunque
no tenga las variables arriba mencionadas me imagino que smail tendría que
encolar los mensajes y no me lo hace.

Un saludo,
  J. Parera

P.D.
como sabrás las variables que hay en el archivo /etc/smail/config algunas
llevan delante de ella el signo - y otras pueden llevar el signo + (y
algunas
nada). Como debo implementar las variables arriba comentadas?




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Re: Los cores

1998-07-23 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 10:10:46AM +0200, Gerardo Aburruzaga Garcia wrote:

  Pues posiblemente porque la FSF no cree en las páginas man. Si algunas
 
 ¿Eh? ¿Cómorl? ¿Que no cree? Pues le puedo pasar unas 523 páginas man a la
 FSF (¿Felisa Sánchez Fernández?) esa a ver si cree. Le aseguro que

Es broma... cierto? ;-)

FSF = Free Software Foundation

Y no, no cree. O mejor dicho, no les gustan las paginas de man... ellos
prefieren los info (si es para cosas como GNU libc, yo tambien prefiero los
info; para LaTeX, prefiero los info; para ls prefiero man)

 o las noticias del Telediario de la 1

ah, de verdad?

 El editor iba a ser (evidentemente) Emacs, pero hicieron elvis. El sistema
 de información iba a ser Info pero también

perdon, pero el editor *es* Emacs. GNU Emacs. (Si no, pregunta a RMS)

 existen las páginas man. El núcleo iba a ser Hurd pero... Linux... :-)

el nucleo *es* Hurd. (Busca en www.fsf.org cual es la posicion oficial de
FSF respecto a Linux, o Lignux o GNU/Linux)

Marcelo


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cdda2wav

1998-07-23 Thread Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
Hola, tengo un problemilla con cdda2wav y querria ver si a alguno mas le
pasa.
1º el cdda2wav que tengo es el de bo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/music/BORRADOR2 $ dpkg -l|grep cdda2wav
ii  cdda2wav0.8-1  get WAV files from digital audio cd's 
y el problema son dos:
1º no funciona el swith -B, le dices que separe las pistas y no lo hace,
lee todo el
disco y ademas en la ultima pista da el error:

Sorry, this driver and/or drive does not support cdda reading.
cooked: Read cdda : I/O error
lo da en los ultimos sectores siempre.

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RE: /usr/lib/syslinux

1998-07-23 Thread J. Parera

Hola,


 Y por supuesto, debes visitar /usr/doc/syslinux

Josep (Josep = Jose), date un paseo por tu /usr/doc , te
sorprenderá la cantidad de documentación que tienes ahí.

ok, ya lo he hecho. Se trata de un cargador de linux para arrancar desde un
disco con formato DOS. No he averiguado más sobre el porque no me interesaba
para nada y lo he borrado (con dpkg -r paquete).

En lo de visitar /usr/doc tienes razón, frecuentemente se me olvida mirar
allí y eso que contiene mucha documentación, desgraciadamente en inglés.

Un saludo,
  J. Parera


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Re: X with a NeoMagic card

1998-07-23 Thread Matthew Myers
Ok.. I found the key, I tried that and I also hooked up an external monitor
to see if I could see something and it turned of the monitor like Win95 does
when in the wrong video mode.

I am running a Dell Latitude CP M233XT with the NM2190 chipset.  I am very
frustrated.  I would really like to use X on my laptop.


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Re: getting RealPlayer 5 running

1998-07-23 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Joey Hess; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 
 I take it you're not using the rvplayer debian package? You should try it.
 It's only in debian 2.0pre, but it makes installing real player very easy
 (and it should work on older debian 1.3 systems as well).
 
 -- 
 see shy jo


Sorry to butt in here, but just a quick question: I am using realplayer5.0,
installed with rvplayer package from hamm, on a hamm based system. It works,
and it worked first time I installed it. However, I can not for the life of me
play _two_ songs in a row, without reloading the entire web-page; for example
I listen to Cdnow site, hear the first track of whatever album I want to, all
is well and once it is done, I exit the real player, click on the next song,
player comes up and starts, but only noise comes out, and my system resources
get apparently eaten by realplayer, since my mouse works as in very
slow-motion. If I back out of the page, reload it and listen to it a minute
later all is well (until I want to hear the next song). any ideas?

My realaudio setting in netscape (4.05): audio/x-pn-realaudio
/usr/X11R6/bin/rvplayer %s
and
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin
RealVideo Player plugin
TIA
damir


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Re: getting RealPlayer 5 running

1998-07-23 Thread Joey Hess
Damir J. Naden wrote:
 Sorry to butt in here, but just a quick question: I am using realplayer5.0,
 installed with rvplayer package from hamm, on a hamm based system. It works,
 and it worked first time I installed it. However, I can not for the life of me
 play _two_ songs in a row, without reloading the entire web-page; for example
 I listen to Cdnow site, hear the first track of whatever album I want to, all
 is well and once it is done, I exit the real player, click on the next song,
 player comes up and starts, but only noise comes out, and my system resources
 get apparently eaten by realplayer, since my mouse works as in very
 slow-motion. If I back out of the page, reload it and listen to it a minute
 later all is well (until I want to hear the next song). any ideas?

It sounds like you have a crummy sound card like mine, and rvplayer is
playing sounds in 16 bit mode maybe. I get this problem not with rvplayer,
but with quake. Try forcing rvplayer to use 8 bit mode.

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FHS-correct place for x root pics

1998-07-23 Thread the lone gunman

I have some snazzy pictures that I have setup as default backgrounds
for x (root window) on my system.  I am curious, though, as to where I
should store these for a FHS compliance.  I'm guessing something like
/usr/local/lib, but I'm not sure.

Thanks for any suggestions!


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Re: samba printing problems

1998-07-23 Thread Patrick Olson

On Wed, 22 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Another way to test the source of the problem is to print to a file on
 Win3.1. Then send the print file directly to the printer by 'cat
 file.prn  /dev/lpN'  where N is probably 1 for 2.0.X kernels and 0
 for 2.1.X kernels.  This will eliminate samba and lpr.  If that works
 then redefine the 'print command' in your smb.conf to something like the
 above 'print command = /bin/cat %s  /dev/lpN'.  If that works then it
 is lpr.  Probably a filter. You should be passing the samba print data
 directly to the lp device. I.E. no 'if' in the printcap file for the
 printer used for samba.

print command = /bin/cat %s  /dev/lp1

in smb.conf just sends the print jobs into oblivion.  At least now it's
not wasting paper with the garbled printouts. :(

cat file  /dev/lp1

worked, but it's a pain to ftp the file to Linux, telnet in and run cat
every time I want to print anything with graphics in it.

Here's /etc/printcap and as you can see, there is no 'if'

(I've also tried it without the df= and tf= lines, but it didn't help.)

stylus|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/stylus:\
:df=/etc/filter.ps:\
:tf=/etc/filter.pcl:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
:pl#66:\
:pw#80:\
:pc#150:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:


The output of lpq is sure interesting!

The junk below is all from ONE print job from ONE Win3.1 computer.  Think
this could be part of the problem?  Note that I had to take the printer
offline to get all the pieces to be in the queue together.

server2# lpq -Pstylus
stylus is ready and printing
Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
active compman254  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
1stcompman255  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882304 bytes
2ndcompman256  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
3rdcompman257  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882048 bytes
4thcompman258  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140883584 bytes
5thcompman259  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
6thcompman260  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a14088256 bytes
7thcompman261  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
8thcompman262  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140883328 bytes
9thcompman263  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
10th   compman264  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882560 bytes
11th   compman265  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882560 bytes
12th   compman266  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882816 bytes
13th   compman267  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a14088164 bytes

Sorry to anyone who finds this a little long.  Normally I wouldn't send
such big chunks of files and screen output to the list like this, but I'm
so confused at the moment that explaining anything would be difficult (and
prone to error). 



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sound problems

1998-07-23 Thread Robert Rati
I'm having problems getting my sound card recognized.  I think it is
because my sound card is pnp and isapnp is loaded after the sound is
initialize (ot attempted to be initialied).  I have a SB/WSS card on my
motherboard, and got the IRQ and IO setting from Win95.  I've read all the
FAQs and howtos, but nothing seems to work.  Can someone tell me things to
try?  The settings for my SB ar IRQ:5, IO:220, DMA:1,5 for WSS are
IO:530,388, IRQ 12, DMA 3.  Since it is PNP though, windows might be
changing  the IRQ values.  Any suggestions?

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emacs/xemacs conflict?

1998-07-23 Thread the lone gunman

Why do the emacs and xemacs packages conflict under debian?  I wanted
to try xemacs, but had to dpkg -r emacs before I could dpkg -i
xemacs

Since I no longer have GNU emacs on my system, is it okay to make
/usr/local/bin/emacs a symbollic link to /usr/bin/xemacs?

Also, I got a few warning messages about removing emacs, but I didn't
think to Shift-PageUp them and actually investigate.  Should there be
any concern for the warnings I got when I did the dpkg -r emacs
(although I suppose this is a hard one to answer without actually
showing what these messages were, perhaps somebody has done this
before, though?).

Any comments?

Thanks!


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Re: good digital clock for x?

1998-07-23 Thread H Huang
the lone gunman wrote:
 Hello -- are there any deb packages that have a digital clock that I
 can swallow in an x module (specifically, FvwmButtons)?  I'd prefer
 one that does military time, and perhaps the date, too :)
 

I'd recommend asclock, which comes with afterstep. If you don't want
the whole afterstep package, you can go to afterstep homepage, d/l the
asclock tar.gz file and build it yourself.

Here is how my FvwmButtons looks like:

attachment: FrontPanel.jpg

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autoup.sh fails when upgrading bo - hamm

1998-07-23 Thread JonesMB
I am trying to upgrade from bo to hamm so I can run the new bash and try wine.

I run autoup.sh and it ftp'ed the files needed for the upgrade.  It failed to 
get me the file libstdc++2.8_*.deb
This is what it wrote

250 CWD command successful.
Local directory now /tmp/libs
libstdc++2.8_*.deb: No such file or directory.
250 CWD command successful.

I looked around the ftp.debian.org site in the hamm directories but didn't 
find a libstdc++2.8_*.deb  Where can I find this file?

And I thought autoup.sh would work without any problems after so many people 
have successfully done the bo - hamm upgrade.  Just my luck to have it fail 
on me.  The autoup.sh I have is v 0.27 1998/05/29.  I got it from 
http://www.debian.org/2.0/autoup/
Is this too old a version to be using or what?

Any help is appreciated.

jmb
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Re: Debian 1.3 libc6

1998-07-23 Thread Carl Fink
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shaleh wrote:
We have done all the work needed to support libc6 for you.  Please do
not make yourself go through more hassle than needed.  apt has a upgrade
feature which will update your system.  We also have an autoup.sh
script on the ftp site which will update for you as well.

This stuff always seems odd to me.  Has autoup stopped killing
people's systems?  Is Apt in stable?

Some folks want to use Debian, not develop it.  Those  people (say,
me) prefer to use only stuff in stable, because our goal is to *avoid*
buggy software, not improve it.

I do some beta testing, but I like to do it on purpose and only on
packages I *know* I'm beta testing.
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So, who else is going to be at WorldCon?


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magicfilter does ps?

1998-07-23 Thread the lone gunman
On my old Slackware system, I manually installed APSfilter, and had my
printer setup correctly.  I could print text files without the
staircase effect, and simply type lp somefile.ps and postscript
files would print out automatically.

On Debian, now, I have magicfilter (not APSfilter) installed, and my
text file printing is okay, but if I try to lp a postscript, I get the
literal file printed, i.e. it does not come out looking as it does
under ghostview.

What do I need to do to ammend this situation?

Thank you!


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My Date is always 3 hrs off

1998-07-23 Thread Keith
I am having some trouble getting my time correct
on my Debian 1.3 system. I am in the Eastern time
zone. I type:

date 0722233098

To change the date to July 22 1998 11:30pm. It
changes the date, until I reboot. If I check 
my cmos clock it is right. So I am assuming that
it, meaning Linux, thinks I am in a different 
time zone or something.
  
This is what I get when I display the time and date:

Wed Apr 22 11:30:02 EDT 1998

But like I said it reverts back three hours slow after
I reboot.

Thanks,
Keith 
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elm signature file

1998-07-23 Thread Keith
I think I am having some trouble setting up a ~/.signature file in
Elm. If this message has my name at the bottom than everything is
working, if not I need help. I just want to put a signature on all
my email.



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Re: My Date is always 3 hrs off

1998-07-23 Thread Alex Pennace
Keith wrote:
 
 I am having some trouble getting my time correct
 on my Debian 1.3 system. I am in the Eastern time
 zone. I type:
 
 date 0722233098
[snip]
 This is what I get when I display the time and date:
 
 Wed Apr 22 11:30:02 EDT 1998
 
 But like I said it reverts back three hours slow after
 I reboot.

Reading from the computer's on-board clock is slow. For better
performance, Linux reads the on-board clock on start up and uses its own
time-keeping system to update it.

The date command only modifies the clock kept by the kernel. Your goal
here is to change the hardware clock. For bo (1.3) the command you want
to use is clock, hamm (2.0) changed the command to hwclock.

Read all about clock through its man page (man clock).


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Off-Topic -- CGI_Lite

1998-07-23 Thread Pure Energy

Sorry for the off topic here but has/is CGI_Lite module been included in
any of the Debian perl packages? Its required for some of my cgi's and was
in the hopes that maybe someone has included some of these often used
modules in a package.


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Will Hamm X work with Cirrus 7548 chip?

1998-07-23 Thread Matthew Ando
Hello,

I have an old laptop (Samsung sens 810) with a Cirrus 7548 chip.
It ran XFree I believe 3.2 fine on Red Hat 4.1.

I recently upgraded to Hamm, and now I get the message

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
xinit:  No such process (errno 3): server error.

I get this error with /etc/X11/Xserver pointing to
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA and using my old XF86Config, which worked
fine under RH4.1/XF 3.2?.  I also got this line with /etc/X11/Xserver 
pointing to /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16 and a quickdirty low-level
XF86Config generated by xf86config.

I am not running gpm.

XFree does not complain that there are no valid modes.

Does anybody have any suggestions?  Is it possible that support
for the Cirrus 7548 is broken?  I tried using the line

Chipset clgd5428

or something like that that I used to use under XFree 3.1.x, in the
days before the 7548 was supported.  It didn't help.


TIA,

Matthew Ando


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Re: Off-Topic -- CGI_Lite

1998-07-23 Thread Shaleh
Pure Energy wrote:
 
 Sorry for the off topic here but has/is CGI_Lite module been included in
 any of the Debian perl packages? Its required for some of my cgi's and was
 in the hopes that maybe someone has included some of these often used
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To my knowledge -- no.  Go to www.debian.org and search the packages
listed.  There is a handy cgi page for this purpose.  If it is not
packaged and we can package it, let us know.


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Re: Debian 1.3 libc6

1998-07-23 Thread Shaleh
Apt is in slink, we can not put it in stable.  Autoup.sh apparently
still has a flake now and then.  There is a howto in the hamm directory
(I believe) which tells you step by step how and what to update by
hand.  This is how I and many others do it.  Once you update the 5 or so
needed packages, the rest can be handled by dselect.  The Hamm CD's ship
w/ the howto and the autoup.sh.  I believe that apt is going to be there
to.


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Re: emacs (in color mode)

1998-07-23 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Yo Pete,
It worked just great ... thanks a million!! Now to set about
finding where to modify the default colours


Jonathan Lawson
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Department of Applied Energy and Optical Diagnostics
School of Mechanical Engineering,
Cranfield University,
Cranfield, Bedford. UK.
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Pete Harlan wrote:

  I have just got the new version of emacs (which I have never used
  before) and would like to enable colour highlighting of my C \ tex
 
 Put (global-font-lock-mode t) in your .emacs file, prepare yourself
 for a lot of colour, and restart emacs.  (Assuming you're running it
 in an X window.  If there's a way to colour text on a console or in an
 xterm, I don't know it.)
 
 Good luck,
 
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Re: emacs (in color mode)

1998-07-23 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Thanks Gary,

Jonathan Lawson
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Thermal Processes Unit
Department of Applied Energy and Optical Diagnostics
School of Mechanical Engineering,
Cranfield University,
Cranfield, Bedford. UK.
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 22 Jul 1998, Gary L. Hennigan wrote:

 Pete Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 |I have just got the new version of emacs (which I have never used
 |  before) and would like to enable colour highlighting of my C \ tex
 | 
 | Put (global-font-lock-mode t) in your .emacs file, prepare yourself
 | for a lot of colour, and restart emacs.  (Assuming you're running it
 | in an X window.  If there's a way to colour text on a console or in an
 | xterm, I don't know it.)
 
 As long as the terminal supports it, and the default xterm in Debian
 for example, XEmacs will display font-lock colors in a text-mode
 sessions, e.g. emacs -nw. It's not quite as good as XEmacs in it's own
 X-window but it works.
 
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Re: emacs (in color mode)

1998-07-23 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Thanks alot Matt
regards

Jonathan Lawson
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Thermal Processes Unit
Department of Applied Energy and Optical Diagnostics
School of Mechanical Engineering,
Cranfield University,
Cranfield, Bedford. UK.
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On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, the lone gunman wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 12:32:54PM +0100, C.J.LAWSON wrote:
  Hi,
  I have just got the new version of emacs (which I have never used
  before) and would like to enable colour highlighting of my C \ tex
  screens. Please could someone in the know aquaint me with the proceedure
  for this or to where in the documentation I can find out about this.
  
  Thanks and regards
 
 When you run emacs under x, you can probably just get away with
 pressing the Esc key, then the x key, then typing font-lock-mode
 and hitting enter...
 
 I have the following two lines in my ~/.emacs file, so that
 font-lock-mode is always used, and emacs uses the most colors
 possible:
 
 (setq font-lock-maximum-decoration t)
 (global-font-lock-mode t)
 
 If only there was a way to colorize stuff in the console...
 
 Good luck!
 


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Beta Test and e2fsprogs

1998-07-23 Thread Paul Serice
I can't seem to upgrade one of the base packages.

My current setup is

ii  e2fslibsg   1.10-8 The EXT2 file system shared libs.
ii  e2fsprogsg  1.10-8 The EXT2 file system utilities.


When I type dpkg --install e2fsprogs_1.10-17.deb, I get the following:

dpkg: considering removing e2fslibsg in favour of e2fsprogs ...
dpkg: yes, will remove e2fslibsg in favour of e2fsprogs.
dpkg: regarding e2fsprogs_1.10-17.deb containing e2fsprogs:
 e2fsprogsg conflicts with e2fsprogs
  e2fsprogs (version 1.10-17) is to be installed.
dpkg: error processing e2fsprogs_1.10-17.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing e2fsprogs
Errors were encountered while processing:
 e2fsprogs_1.10-17.deb


My usual procedure is to first try to upgrade the package that won't
let itself be removed.  I can't find any package marked e2fsprogsg.
In cases like this, I next try to back the offending package out by
first uninstalling everything that depends on it and then removing the
package.  This package is different because it is essential.

I don't want to --force this, but I don't see any other way.  Any
suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks,
Paul Serice


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Re: elm signature file

1998-07-23 Thread fantomas
- I think I am having some trouble setting up a ~/.signature file in
- Elm. If this message has my name at the bottom than everything is
- working, if not I need help. I just want to put a signature on all
- my email.

hmmm edit your ~/.elm/elmrc and define

# local .signature file to append to appropriate messages...
localsignature =  .signature

# remote .signature file to append to appropriate messages...
remotesignature = .signature


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Debian 2.0 Release later today!

1998-07-23 Thread Johnie Ingram

We are mere hours away from the largest IRC party Debian has ever
thrown, as the release of 2.0 hamm will happen:

in Austrailia: at 10:00 AM ACT on Friday Jul 24
in Europe:  at 0:00 midnight UTC on Friday Jul 24
in America: at 8:00 PM EDT on Thursday Jul 23
   5:00 PM PDT

Debian's developers and users are already gathering on IRC channel
#debian, irc.debian.org.  Everyone is invited for the Great Event,
which will begin 2 hours before and probably last well into the night
-- or afternoon as the case may be.

There's also a live countdown page at http://www.netgod.net/.

For new users, the install floppies will be on all of Debian's mirrors
at the moment of release.  And since irc.debian.org is linked with the
Linux Internet Support Cooperative (http://www.linpeople.org/), there
will be experts on IRC to help with things like ppp, sound, and X
setup.

People with Debian releases older than this hamm can upgrade easily
after installing the next-generation package manager, APT, which was
just put on Freshmeat. (Its perhaps better known by its secret
codename, deity.)

To join us, point your favorite IRC client at a server that sounds
close:

irc.us.debian.org   irc.eu.debian.org
irc.au.openprojects.net irc.linux.org

The long wait is over.  :-)


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Re: Debian 1.3 libc6

1998-07-23 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shaleh wrote:
We have done all the work needed to support libc6 for you.  Please do

This stuff always seems odd to me.  Has autoup stopped killing
people's systems?

Yup, I've upgraded lots of systems with autoup - all production servers,
in a remote location, _while running_

Is Apt in stable?

Good question.

Some folks want to use Debian, not develop it.  Those  people (say,
me) prefer to use only stuff in stable, because our goal is to *avoid*
buggy software, not improve it.

I do some beta testing, but I like to do it on purpose and only on
packages I *know* I'm beta testing.

Debian 2.0 _is_ stable (and it will be officially so in just a few hours).

Mike.
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Re: Enlightenment, Fnlib, and Imlib - get 'em while they're hot

1998-07-23 Thread Damon Muller
Hi,

 Ok, What I believe to be the final build of the Enlightenment trilogy is
 uploaded to www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software/enlightenment.  If you have
 ANY probelms, please let me know.  Otherwise I a day or so I will upload
 this to the main Debian archive.

Got this, installed it - it's awsome! :) Keep up the good (and fast!)
work!

Seems to work well, but it took a bit of searching around to get all of
the relevant packages. Also interesting fun working out which order they
had to be installed in :)

Thanks again,

damon

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Check deb-Paket?

1998-07-23 Thread Michael Taeschner
Hallo,

Wie ueberpruefe ich auf der Kommandozeile die Integritaet von
.deb-Paketen? 

Die man-pages (uralt) sagen, dass es keine Checksumme gaebe...
Dann frage ich mich aber, wie dselect nach ftp die heruntergeladenen
Pakete prueft bzw. wie Maintainer ihren ftp-Mirror checken?

Danke im Voraus,

Michael Taeschner

German Aerospace Center (DLR) Braunschweig
Institute of Structural Mechanics
Thermo-Resistant Structures: 
http://hyperg.kp.dlr.de/WB-SM/sm-thermo/homepage_eng


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Re: autoup.sh fails when upgrading bo - hamm

1998-07-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, JonesMB wrote:

 I am trying to upgrade from bo to hamm so I can run the new bash and
 try wine.

 I run autoup.sh and it ftp'ed the files needed for the upgrade.  It
 failed to get me the file libstdc++2.8_*.deb

 [...deleted...]

autoup.sh is expecting to find it in libs/, but it's not there anymore.
it has been moved to base/. it must have happened recently because i
haven't had any other complaints about it yet.

download it from base, install it with dpkg and then run autoup.sh
again.



 The autoup.sh I have is v 0.27 1998/05/29.  I got it from
 http://www.debian.org/2.0/autoup/ Is this too old a version to be
 using or what?

nope. that's the latest version. i'll put out a new version soon which
corrects this libstdc++ problem.

if you want to be certain you have the latest version, check
http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup or http://taz.net.au/autoup/

the vicnet site is preferred - and also contains a .tar.gz file
containing all the files which autoup.sh needs. debian.vicnet.net.au is
my workstation at work, and has a much better net connection than the
taz site (which is my home network).


craig

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autoup.sh v0.28 released

1998-07-23 Thread Craig Sanders

v0.28: 1998-07-23 (Craig Sanders)
 - libstdc++2.8 has moved from libs/ to base/
 - libnet-perl has moved from interpreters/ to base/

as usual, it is available from

http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ (primary site)
ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/
and
http://taz.net.au/autoup/



autoup.tar.gz on the primary site has also been updated with all the
latest versions of stuff from hamm.  it weighs in at 9.1MB and includes: 

-r--r--r-- root/root450820 1998-07-17 07:55 bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 13912 1997-05-08 00:00 data-dumper_2.07-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root166586 1998-06-23 20:41 dpkg-dev_1.4.0.23.2.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 13544 1998-04-28 09:46 dpkg-ftp_1.4.9.6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 21946 1998-05-12 11:04 dpkg-mountable_0.7.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root341616 1998-06-23 20:41 dpkg_1.4.0.23.2.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root181344 1998-05-22 08:56 ldso_1.9.9-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root284268 1998-06-12 12:21 libc5_5.4.38-1.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root580872 1998-07-17 08:26 libc6_2.0.7t-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root254826 1997-10-07 13:55 libg++272_2.7.2.8-0.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root235522 1998-06-08 10:42 libg++27_2.7.2.1-14.4.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 17296 1998-05-25 12:29 libgdbm1_1.7.3-25.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 17230 1998-05-25 12:29 libgdbmg1_1.7.3-25.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 65308 1997-04-28 00:00 libnet-perl_1.0502-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 69678 1998-07-17 07:55 libreadline2_2.1-10.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 75864 1998-07-17 07:55 libreadlineg2_2.1-10.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 94784 1998-07-02 08:10 libstdc++2.8_2.90.29-0.6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root   1340204 1998-07-17 08:26 locales_2.0.7t-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root111006 1998-04-16 11:09 ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root124368 1998-07-17 09:51 ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-8.8.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root350948 1998-07-17 07:56 netbase_3.11-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root611710 1998-07-05 22:07 netstd_3.07-2.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root282680 1998-06-08 10:47 perl-base_5.004.04-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root   3125884 1998-06-08 10:47 perl_5.004.04-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 84354 1998-07-02 12:19 slang0.99.34_0.99.38-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 83902 1998-07-02 12:19 slang0.99.38_0.99.38-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root261268 1998-07-17 08:26 timezones_2.0.7t-1.deb

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Re: X with a NeoMagic card

1998-07-23 Thread Ian Lynagh
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Myers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Ok.. I found the key, I tried that and I also hooked up an external monitor
to see if I could see something and it turned of the monitor like Win95 does
when in the wrong video mode.

What's in your /etc/X11/XF86Config?

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Re: your or redhat?

1998-07-23 Thread Eugene Sevinian

Few days ago I had a chance to compare redhat against debian.
I had installed Debian 1.3 from CD on tiny configuration:
ROM=4M, HD=120M, Monochroom Hercules, Cyrix 486DX, 50Mh.

A friend of mine tried to do the same job with RH5.1 but was unable to
install due to the lack of disk space, ROM size ...

However, the instalation of basic system of debian was done on
another PC. Might be this was a reason of such story?

Regards,

Eugene
 
On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote:

  
  im concidering putting linux on my system at home (who am i kiding? i
  will be putting linux on my system) but im kind of lost between the
  outdated info in various sources on which dist is going to help me.
  
  this is what i need:
  1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition)
  2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2
  what i need to know from you is why should i get your product instead of
  
  Redhat 5.1?
  thanks for the help
  ken

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Re: sound problems

1998-07-23 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 08:04:33PM -0500, Robert Rati wrote:
 I'm having problems getting my sound card recognized.  I think it is
 because my sound card is pnp and isapnp is loaded after the sound is
 initialize (ot attempted to be initialied).

You have to compile sound as a kernel module. Answer m, not y to the
question. After installation add sound to /etc/modules, then it will be
loaded at boot time.

Debian start up scripts automatically care about the order of isapnp and
sound module (they do the right thing).

Marcus

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Re: Lan Tcp/ip Question

1998-07-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Tomt wrote:

 At 10:44 PM 7/19/1998 -0700, you wrote:
 It may be useful for you to assign the NIC's address to something
 other than 0x300. A lot of different (very different even!) cards try
 to use 0x300 (sound cards, primarily).

 Theres a sound card in the machine but its sitting on 0x330

 Also you may want to try pinging the machine's own address on the
 ethernet. See what that produces. Aside from that I can't help you
 much.

 Works.  Both machines can ping themselves but not each other.

check that you don't have an irq conflict with the ethernet card.

i've had enough irq conflicts with network cards for that to be the
first thing i check when i get a system which can send but not receive
packets.

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Re: magicfilter does ps?

1998-07-23 Thread Martin Schulze
the lone gunman writes:
 On my old Slackware system, I manually installed APSfilter, and had my
 printer setup correctly.  I could print text files without the
 staircase effect, and simply type lp somefile.ps and postscript
 files would print out automatically.
 
 On Debian, now, I have magicfilter (not APSfilter) installed, and my
 text file printing is okay, but if I try to lp a postscript, I get the
 literal file printed, i.e. it does not come out looking as it does
 under ghostview.
 
 What do I need to do to ammend this situation?

Both magicfilter and apsfilter are included.  Please check your
/etc/printcap file.  Maybe magicfilter hasn't installed itself
as filter?

Regards,

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Re: rvplayer 5.0 with deb pkg

1998-07-23 Thread Jens Ritter
Mark H. Mabry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have installed rvplayer-5.0 with the Debian package and it still
 does not seem to work correctly.  (I have also tried it by hand and
 still no luck.)  When I click on a link with RealAudio, I get a Save
 As dialog box rather than having the player launched.  I have checked
 in the Netscape preferences that it associates the .ram files with
 rvplayer %s.  And I can launch rvplayer successful from the command
 line.  

is the program entry entry selected in netscape? It´s not enough to
have *.ram files associated, you really have to select starting the
program. 

(Sorry if you already have that selected, but I have been hit by this more then 
once.)

Give the full path name to rvplayer.  

HTH,

Jens
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Re: My Date is always 3 hrs off

1998-07-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Keith writes:
 I am having some trouble getting my time correct
 on my Debian 1.3 system. I am in the Eastern time
 zone. I type:
 
 date 0722233098
 
 To change the date to July 22 1998 11:30pm. It
 changes the date, until I reboot. If I check 
 my cmos clock it is right. So I am assuming that
 it, meaning Linux, thinks I am in a different 
 time zone or something.

grep for GMT in /etc/* I'm not sure which file it is but
in one of them you define that the hardware clock is set
to GMT or localtime.

Also check timeconfig (exec it).  Maybe your timezone
is wrong.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: where did cvs-pcl go?

1998-07-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Hsieh writes:
 
 Anyone know why the cvs-pcl package went away?  Will it be coming back
 soon?

It should be around in slink.  It may be removed from hamm due to
showstop errors during its installation.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Mouse movement weirdness with latest X packages

1998-07-23 Thread Ken Lauffenburger
FYI:

I just upgraged to the rev 3.3.2.2-3 X11 packages and the mouse movement
sluggishness and jerkiness seems to have gone away, and it seems that the
random button pressing behavior has disappeared.

I'm guessing this is what affected me, although I'm using xserver-s3,
not the SVGA server (from /usr/doc/xbase/changelog.Debian.gz):

  * programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common_hw/xf86_PCI.c: reversed patch from
XFree86, was causing problems for many users of SVGA X server
(Fixes: #24040)
  * programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/scanpci.c: reversed patch from XFree86,
was causing problems for many users of SVGA X server

However, there is still one problem that persists, that has happened to
me twice in the last 24 hours.  In both cases I had been using less or
zless in an xterm window, and when I attempted to move the cursor away from
the xterm window, the cursor did move outside the window, but it remained a
text cursor, the window did not lose focus, I could not move beyond the
edges of my screen into other areas of my virtual desktop, and no other
window manager functions would work outside the xterm window (i.e.
I couldn't pop a menu or double-click to pop up an icon).  All text
operations continued to work inside the xterm window however.  In both
cases I was able to exit this mode by terminating (^d) the xterm.  This
behavior is random--I have tried to reproduce it several times but so far
I haven't been successful.

Anyone else see this type of behavior?

--ken


On Mon, Jul 20, 1998 at 11:51:43PM -0500, Ken Lauffenburger wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I just recently updated the X11 packages on my Hamm system from rev 3.3.2.1-1
 to 3.3.2.2-1 and then to 3.3.2.2-2.  Ever since, simple X-Y mouse movements
 cause the window manager to act as if the mouse buttons are being randomly
 pressed.  This of course causes all sorts of annoying things to happen, like
 menus popping up randomly, windows losing focus, and commands getting
 unintentionally executed.  Also cursor movement is occasionally sluggish or
 jerky, as if some mouse events are lost, or maybe as if the system is under
 a momentary heavy load, although the xsysinfo meter shows no spike in
 activity.
 
 This behavior happens with both the 3.3.2.2-1 and 3.3.2.2-2 revisions.  I
 had none of these problems with previous revisions.
 
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Re: sound problems

1998-07-23 Thread Jens Ritter
Robert Rati [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm having problems getting my sound card recognized.  I think it is
 because my sound card is pnp and isapnp is loaded after the sound is
 initialize (ot attempted to be initialied).  I have a SB/WSS card on my
 motherboard, and got the IRQ and IO setting from Win95.  I've read all the
 FAQs and howtos, but nothing seems to work.  Can someone tell me things to
 try?  The settings for my SB ar IRQ:5, IO:220, DMA:1,5 for WSS are
 IO:530,388, IRQ 12, DMA 3.  Since it is PNP though, windows might be
 changing  the IRQ values.  Any suggestions?

Have you got isapnptools installed and /etc/isapnp.conf edited?
If you add sound to /etc/modules everything should work. 
In what way does your setup differ?

Jens

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Re: your or redhat?

1998-07-23 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Ken Gray wrote:
 
 1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition)

No auto recognition for ISA in Linux yet... Linus haven't yet seen a
good implementation of Prug'n'Pray.

PCI works regardless of distribution.

RedHat installation is more beautiful, Debian is more informative and
flexible.


 2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2

The graphical environment in Linux is split.

The window manager is standard: the X System.  It is far more capable
than any other I've seen up to now, but it is certainly the nastier part
of the system to install.  This also does not depends on the
distribution.

The GUI is the window manager, of which there is a bewildering
variety:  AfterStep, fvwm, ICE, OpenWindows, etc.  Also not dependent on
distribution.

Both Debian and RedHat will standardize on the GNOME desktop, bypassing
the KDE which depends on proprietary, closed libraries.  GNOME isn't yet
finished, but it is not really necessary to a hacker or would-be hacker.

That said, RedHat has nicer graphical configuration utilities, but
Debian has a more robust, bullet-proof, comprehensive installation
system (the Apt installer and the *.deb packages).

As of now, both distributions are up-to-date: technically (kernel and
libc -wise) Debian 2.0 and RedHat 5.1 are at the same level.


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Re: Bo crashes under heavy disk load

1998-07-23 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 I can repeatably crash two (nearly) stock Debian 1.3 systems using one or 
 more
 scripts, such as
 
 find /usr |xargs grep some-arbitrary-string
 
 looping with some background activity to use up CPU cycles.
 
 The systems seem stable, otherwise.  Only common hardware are ultra-SCSI 
 disks
 and controllers (AHA-2940).   Any ideas?

 Do you get any logs / errors ? 

 You might want to try newer kernels which have newer drivers for the SCSI
 cards, if this seems disk io related.

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Re: where did cvs-pcl go?

1998-07-23 Thread Jens Ritter
Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone know why the cvs-pcl package went away?  Will it be coming back
 soon?

It has an important bug against it (see bug tracking system: #22577),
because of which the install procedure for emacsen fail.

It has been removed from hamm because it prevented release.
The maintainer is working on a fix, but he is expecting to find a
solution in time.

If you need cvs-pcl urgently, please install the version from hamm.

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Re: Portuguese Keyboard

1998-07-23 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Ana Graca Silva wrote:
 
 Thanks all Debian useres for the answers to my question!
 I've  solved my problem making a substituition of the file default.map in
 /usr/linb/kbd/keytables  by pt.map ...
 It was so simple ...

For further information, take a look at
http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~casantos/Portuguese-HOWTO/  It may be overkill,
but will be instructive.

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Burning my own CD under Windows

1998-07-23 Thread Curt E. Spann




Hello,
 I want to burn a cd with 
Debian 2.0 beta. I know you can download the images and use a linux 
program to make a cd. But I want to burn it under Windows. I just 
need to know the directory where every thing is just like it is on the 
cd.


 
Thanks,
 
Curt


Re: Check deb-Paket?

1998-07-23 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 11:31:35AM +0200, Michael Taeschner wrote:
 Wie ueberpruefe ich auf der Kommandozeile die Integritaet von
 .deb-Paketen? 
 
 Die man-pages (uralt) sagen, dass es keine Checksumme gaebe...

That is correct: the packages themselves do not contain checksums.

 Dann frage ich mich aber, wie dselect nach ftp die heruntergeladenen
 Pakete prueft bzw. wie Maintainer ihren ftp-Mirror checken?

Dselect uses the Packages(.gz) files that are found on the FTP mirrors;
these files do contain MD5 checksums for the .deb files.

So you can check .deb files manually by comparing the output of md5sum
foo.deb to the md5sum in the Packages file.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: XFree 86 on CL 7548?

1998-07-23 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Matthew Ando wrote:

 
 Hello,
 
 I've upgraded to Hamm beta from Red Hat 4.1.  
 I had X working with RH 3 and RH 4.1; 4.1's version of X is 3.2.x
 
 I have a laptop (Samsung sens 810) with a Cirrus Logic 7548 chip.
 
 After installing XFree 86 3.3 from Hamm, I get the famous lines
 
See 
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/index.html#xfree86_cirrus

Old links but may be useful,

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Re: Lan Tcp/ip Question

1998-07-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Tomt wrote:
 
  At 10:44 PM 7/19/1998 -0700, you wrote:
  It may be useful for you to assign the NIC's address to something
  other than 0x300. A lot of different (very different even!) cards try
  to use 0x300 (sound cards, primarily).
 
  Theres a sound card in the machine but its sitting on 0x330
 
  Also you may want to try pinging the machine's own address on the
  ethernet. See what that produces. Aside from that I can't help you
  much.
 
  Works.  Both machines can ping themselves but not each other.
 
 check that you don't have an irq conflict with the ethernet card.
 
 i've had enough irq conflicts with network cards for that to be the
 first thing i check when i get a system which can send but not receive
 packets.

Also, wasn't this a 509 card? (I've chucked the start of the thread.)
It's worth checking that you've got the right connection setting if
it's a combo. I've got several that won't autoselect the BNC, but have
to be set to BNC specifically. This might have the same symptoms.

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XF86Config mode settings for Number 9 FX Motion 771

1998-07-23 Thread Chris Evans
/dev/lp1 and printing sorted out!  

Now trouble is that I cannot get my combination of a number 9 FX 
Motion 771 card (it's an approved S3 card, fairly sure it has 4Mb 
RAM) to run X in 1024X768.  I know it will do this as it ran NT at 
that resolution.  I think I successfully (but not usably) ran it on 
1280x1024 which is the maximum my monitor can do.  Now all I'm 
getting is 800x600 and that's virtual as the autosynch monitor is 
resolutely sticking in 640*400 at 70MHz.

Monitor is an Elonex rebadged Phillips Brilliance 17 I think.  The 
pertinent modes it offers according to the manual are:
M08 = 8514A 1024x768 H:35.5MHz V 87
M09   1024x768 H:48.4   V 60
M10   1024x768 H:56.0   V 70

I used XF86config to set up the configuration and have tried 
adapting it by hand with no joy at all.  Then entry I have in 
/etc/X11/XF86Config for the card contains: 
VideoRam  4096
s3RefClk16
DACspeed  220

startx is reporting clocks of 24.93 28.32 0.00 and 0.00 which 
doesn't look very high, it's rejecting a number of modes as needing 
hsync frequencies that are not what it wants.  I think the problem is 
that this indicates a programmable clock and it could be instructed 
to clock higher than this. The documentation on the card 
specifically says you shouldn't probe it so I can't take that line of 
action.  Can someone tell me clock settings that I should be giving 
to /ect/X11/XF86Config?

Ugh, Debian can have a pretty long learning curve can't it?

TIA,

Chris


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Re: Now I've done it! [root re-partitioning mess]

1998-07-23 Thread Jeff Schreiber
Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ah, a familiar story. So much for rescue by the rescue disk. Dig the shared 
lib(s) you're missing and copy them into /lib/ after you boot the rescue 
disk, then run restore. My bo machine shows:

All those libs seemed to be located in my  /lib/ (perhaps theres a version
thing I don't have correct).

I get an error about __bsd_signal.

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Re: Beta Test and e2fsprogs

1998-07-23 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Paul Serice wrote:

 I can't seem to upgrade one of the base packages.
 
 My current setup is
 
 ii  e2fslibsg   1.10-8 The EXT2 file system shared libs.
 ii  e2fsprogsg  1.10-8 The EXT2 file system utilities.
 [...]
 I don't want to --force this, but I don't see any other way.  Any
 suggestions would be appreciated.

You probably have to use --force this time.

Neither of e2fslibsg or e2fsprogsg do exist now in hamm.
e2fsprogs is now the only package you will need.

Fortunately, upgrades from bo do not suffer from this little problem.

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Debian Beta 2.0 CD listings

1998-07-23 Thread Curt E. Spann




Hello,
 Can somebody with the Debain 
2.0 beta CD do a dir on it and send me the listing. I need the root dir of 
the cd at least. A dir of the whole CD would be better.


 
Curt



Re: Debian 2.0 Release later today!

1998-07-23 Thread Ian Keith Setford
Yo-

From the oceans of code emerges Debian 2.0!  And it is good!  Come forward
my brothers (and sisters) and embrace this glorious gift.  Take forth this
gift and sow it's seed for it will reign eternal.

Brother Ian.

(p.s. Can you tell I'm excited?)
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Re: sound problems

1998-07-23 Thread Will Lowe
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Robert Rati wrote:

 I'm having problems getting my sound card recognized.  I think it is
 because my sound card is pnp and isapnp is loaded after the sound is
 initialize (ot attempted to be initialied).  I have a SB/WSS card on my
 motherboard, and got the IRQ and IO setting from Win95.  I've read all the
 FAQs and howtos, but nothing seems to work.  Can someone tell me things to
 try?  The settings for my SB ar IRQ:5, IO:220, DMA:1,5 for WSS are
 IO:530,388, IRQ 12, DMA 3.  Since it is PNP though, windows might be
 changing  the IRQ values.  Any suggestions?

Try compiling sound as a module.  This'll allow you to do insmod sound
_after_ isapnp can do its thing.
Will


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Re: Debian 2.0 Release later today!

1998-07-23 Thread Curt E. Spann
WaitIs this officalIs Debian 2.0 going to be released today???

I need to know before I start Downloading the beta CD Image


Thanks,
Curt
-Original Message-
From: Ian Keith Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Debian 2.0 Release later today!


Yo-

From the oceans of code emerges Debian 2.0!  And it is good!  Come forward
my brothers (and sisters) and embrace this glorious gift.  Take forth this
gift and sow it's seed for it will reign eternal.

Brother Ian.

(p.s. Can you tell I'm excited?)
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Debian Std C++?

1998-07-23 Thread SEGV
This maybe isn't the most perfect forum for these questions, but it's one I
read...

What is the state of Standard C++ (as adopted by ISO/ANSI) on GNU/Linux?

I'm starting to use more true-blue C++ constructs at work, and it would be nice
to have them at home as well.

For instance, browsing my system I see that c++ is gcc version 2.7.2.3. It warns
that namespaces are mostly broken. The standard library is not enclosed in the
namespace std, and iostream.h looks old and is not iostream.

How long before I can type in every example from Stroustrup's latest book, and
have it compile on Debian GNU/Linux?

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Re: Burning my own CD under Windows

1998-07-23 Thread Kevin Traas
Curt, you will not be able to burn a Debian CD under Windows (properly,
anyway).

Your only option will be to retrieve the Official D2 CD ISO images and
then burn them directly to the CD from your Winbloze box.  That, or use a
Linux system to mirror the FTP site and build the CD from Linux from your
mirror.  (Not nearly as easy as it sounds.)

By far your best option is to download the ISO images.

Regards,
Kevin Traas
-Original Message-
From: Curt E. Spann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 5:04 AM
Subject: Burning my own CD under Windows


Hello,
I want to burn a cd with Debian 2.0 beta.  I know you can download
the images and use a linux program to make a cd.  But I want to burn it
under Windows.  I just need to know the directory where every thing is just
like it is on the cd.



Thanks,

Curt


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Re: Debian Std C++?

1998-07-23 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

g++ 2.7.2.3 is fairly out of date with respect to C++ standards.  Use egcs
C++ 1.x instead.  Egcs is the Experimental GNU Compiler System.  It is
somewhat equivalent to gcc/g++ 2.9x.x, sort of :).  Anyway, the egcs
version of g++ conforms much more closely to the latest C++ standard.
However, the current stable version of egcs doesn't yet support
namespaces, except for namespace::std.  If you can wait till August,
when egcs 1.1 is supposed to be released then that version is supposed to
support general namespaces.  I'm not sure but it may also include the
latest version of SGI's STL (3.1).  Again, I am not sure about the latest
version of SGI's STL.  The new style C++ headers, iostream for example,
are also supported in the current version of egcs.  Are using bo?  Debian
2.0 (hamm) uses egcs c++ and FORTRAN by default.  The old gcc 2.7.2.3 is
still being used in hamm since there are kernel compile issues with gcc
2.8.x and egcs 1.x.

By the way, this is not local to Debian.  Any distribution that uses g++
will have these problems.

-Ossama

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Re: Debian Std C++?

1998-07-23 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 09:35:51AM -0400, SEGV wrote:
 What is the state of Standard C++ (as adopted by ISO/ANSI) on GNU/Linux?

Debian 2.0 will ship with the egcs C++ compiler (http://egcs.cygnus.com/)
version 1.0.3 .

 For instance, browsing my system I see that c++ is gcc version 2.7.2.3. It
 warns that namespaces are mostly broken. The standard library is not
 enclosed in the namespace std, and iostream.h looks old and is not
 iostream.

egcs 1.0.3 still does not understand namespaces fully yet, but its C++
support is a big improvement over 2.7.2.3's .

 How long before I can type in every example from Stroustrup's latest book,
 and have it compile on Debian GNU/Linux?

Impossible to say. Join egcs development if you want it to be sooner rather
than later.

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RE: Debian 2.0 Release later today!

1998-07-23 Thread Frock
Yes, it's official alrighty ;)

check http://www.netgod.net/ for more info.

/Frock


 -Original Message-
 From: Curt E. Spann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23. juli 1998 15:33
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Debian 2.0 Release later today!
 
 
 WaitIs this officalIs Debian 2.0 going to be released today???
 
 I need to know before I start Downloading the beta CD Image
 
 
 Thanks,
 Curt
 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Keith Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 9:00 AM
 Subject: Re: Debian 2.0 Release later today!
 
 
 Yo-
 
 From the oceans of code emerges Debian 2.0!  And it is good!  
 Come forward
 my brothers (and sisters) and embrace this glorious gift.  Take 
 forth this
 gift and sow it's seed for it will reign eternal.
 
 Brother Ian.
 
 (p.s. Can you tell I'm excited?)
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Re: autoup.sh fails when upgrading bo - hamm

1998-07-23 Thread Kent West
I got the same message when I tried to run autoup.sh. However, I was trying
to run it on a hamm system instead of trying to do an upgrade from bo. This
is because I'm a newbie and don't know what I'm doing yet. Nonetheless,
thought I'd let everyone know I saw the error also.

At 07:43 PM 7/23/1998 +1000, you wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, JonesMB wrote:

 I am trying to upgrade from bo to hamm so I can run the new bash and
 try wine.

 I run autoup.sh and it ftp'ed the files needed for the upgrade.  It
 failed to get me the file libstdc++2.8_*.deb

 [...deleted...]

autoup.sh is expecting to find it in libs/, but it's not there anymore.
it has been moved to base/. it must have happened recently because i
haven't had any other complaints about it yet.

download it from base, install it with dpkg and then run autoup.sh
again.



 The autoup.sh I have is v 0.27 1998/05/29.  I got it from
 http://www.debian.org/2.0/autoup/ Is this too old a version to be
 using or what?

nope. that's the latest version. i'll put out a new version soon which
corrects this libstdc++ problem.

if you want to be certain you have the latest version, check
http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup or http://taz.net.au/autoup/

the vicnet site is preferred - and also contains a .tar.gz file
containing all the files which autoup.sh needs. debian.vicnet.net.au is
my workstation at work, and has a much better net connection than the
taz site (which is my home network).


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Re: samba printing problems

1998-07-23 Thread servis
*-Patrick Olson (22 Jul)
| 
| The output of lpq is sure interesting!
| 
| The junk below is all from ONE print job from ONE Win3.1 computer.  Think
| this could be part of the problem?  Note that I had to take the printer
| offline to get all the pieces to be in the queue together.
| 
| server2# lpq -Pstylus
| stylus is ready and printing
| Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
| active compman254  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
| 1stcompman255  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882304 bytes
| 2ndcompman256  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
| 3rdcompman257  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882048 bytes
| 4thcompman258  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140883584 bytes
| 5thcompman259  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
| 6thcompman260  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a14088256 bytes
| 7thcompman261  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
| 8thcompman262  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140883328 bytes
| 9thcompman263  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140884096 bytes
| 10th   compman264  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882560 bytes
| 11th   compman265  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882560 bytes
| 12th   compman266  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a140882816 bytes
| 13th   compman267  /tmp/HYUNDAIXXX.a14088164 bytes
| 


Turn off print spooling on the Win machine. I forget exactly the proce
dure for this on Win3.1, it has been to long.  It thinks it is printing
to a local printer and is sending the data in chunks to the printer,
which is fine for a directly connected printer.  The Win machine does
not need to spool, that is what lpr is for.

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Re: Enlightenment, Fnlib, and Imlib - get 'em while they're hot

1998-07-23 Thread Richard L. Alhama
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Damon Muller wrote:

 Hi,
 
  Ok, What I believe to be the final build of the Enlightenment trilogy is
  uploaded to www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software/enlightenment.  If you have
  ANY probelms, please let me know.  Otherwise I a day or so I will upload
  this to the main Debian archive.
 
 Got this, installed it - it's awsome! :) Keep up the good (and fast!)
 work!
 
 Seems to work well, but it took a bit of searching around to get all of
 the relevant packages. Also interesting fun working out which order they
 had to be installed in :)

I'm getting errors on the e14 package.  Seems like my imlib is broken

Error message when I start E14
enlightenment: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libpng.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info.

I should be asking shaleh 'bout this but what are the relevant packages
that you have.  I have all the .deb packages in shaleh's site but I don't
have the *dev packages.  Is this what you did? Get the *dev packages?

 Thanks again,
 
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Re: Debian 2.0 Release later today!

1998-07-23 Thread Richard L. Alhama
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote:

 Yo-
 
 From the oceans of code emerges Debian 2.0!  And it is good!  Come forward
 my brothers (and sisters) and embrace this glorious gift.  Take forth this
 gift and sow it's seed for it will reign eternal.

Ahhh... yes Brother! CD images! and hamm for everyone! m ham... you
made me hungry.

 Brother Ian.
 
 (p.s. Can you tell I'm excited?)
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Re: Debian Std C++?

1998-07-23 Thread Hannu Koivisto
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| egcs 1.0.3 still does not understand namespaces fully yet, but its C++
| support is a big improvement over 2.7.2.3's .

The original poster might want to try latest egcs snapshots from
egcs.cygnus.com. They work better for me than 1.0.3 in general
and they include better namespace support, better thread
support, etc. Of course, they are development snapshots, so
#include std. disclaimer

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cd rom drives

1998-07-23 Thread David Parmet


newbie alert.


since my 1.3 box, which i'm upgrading asap, doesn't have a cd-rom drive
and has only a 14.4 modem, i was thinking of upgrading both before
upgrading to 2.0.

now.. here's the dumb newbie question.. apart from staying away from plug
and pray, is there any complication to installing a cd-rom drive and new
modem?  do i have to invoke prayers to any particular UNIX gods?  or do i
get to shove the new stuff into their proper bays and boot up?


tia.


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Re: your or redhat?

1998-07-23 Thread Kent West
I tried to install Redhat on an older non-name-brand 486, but it wouldn't
see one of my hard drives, so I tried Debian, and have stuck with it. The
impression I've gotton from reading mail archives, etc, is that Redhat is
easier to get up and running for the newbie, but only because it is more
limited than Debian; this limitation also manifests itself later when you
want to grow and find out that Redhat isn't as growable as Debian.
However, let me remind you, this is not from first-hand experience; just my
impression from what I've read.

Here's something I found in the mail archives
(http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9801/msg00061.html) that
you might find interesting.

Here is my opinion on the different dist. of Linux that I have used over
the years.

Caldera Standard:

Great if you never need technical support, modifiy your system, or want
any documentation that is acurate.  Since I do not know of anyone that
can say that, I would not recomend it.

Red Hat:

Good distrubution.  Installs easy, has good documentation, is really
useable from the first reboot.  It's update and packaging system is not
very good.  I have had a lot of trouble upgrading the system from
version to version.  Other then that, it works well.

Slackware:

Installs well, has very good doc's, and works well from the first
reboot.  It has no upgrade capability, and is difficult to get X to work
just the way you want it.

Debian:

Installs well, has good doc's, and is very easy to modify.  The upgrade
system works very well with the utilities available.  I have upgraded
through mager versions with no problems.  The only problem is when you
get to the first reboot you hav quite a bit of configuration to do to
get a really usable system.  The upside of that is you have learned a
lot from the configuration and will have no trouble in the future
modifications.

I hope this helps, I have been lucky in the fact that I have had the
opertunity to run different dist. side by side for quite a while.  That
gave me a chance to compare them well.  Of course, this is only my
opinion.

Brian Schramm


On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote:

  
  im concidering putting linux on my system at home (who am i kiding? i
  will be putting linux on my system) but im kind of lost between the
  outdated info in various sources on which dist is going to help me.
  
  this is what i need:
  1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition)
  2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2
  what i need to know from you is why should i get your product instead of
  
  Redhat 5.1?
  thanks for the help
  ken

Eugene Sevinian


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Re: Burning my own CD under Windows

1998-07-23 Thread servis
*-Curt E. Spann (23 Jul)
| Hello,
| I want to burn a cd with Debian 2.0 beta.  I know you can download the 
images and use a linux program to make a cd.  But I want to burn it under 
Windows.  I just need to know the directory where every thing is just like it 
is on the cd.
| 
| 
| Thanks,
|
Curt
(wrap your lines)

Read

ftp://ftp.debian.org/OfficialCD/1.3.1/CD_Writer_Instructions.txt

for instruction for various cd writers(linux and dos/win).

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Re: Enlightenment, Fnlib, and Imlib - get 'em while they're hot

1998-07-23 Thread Maarten Boekhold
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Richard L. Alhama wrote:

 On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Damon Muller wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
   Ok, What I believe to be the final build of the Enlightenment trilogy is
   uploaded to www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software/enlightenment.  If you have
   ANY probelms, please let me know.  Otherwise I a day or so I will upload
   this to the main Debian archive.
  
  Got this, installed it - it's awsome! :) Keep up the good (and fast!)
  work!
  
  Seems to work well, but it took a bit of searching around to get all of
  the relevant packages. Also interesting fun working out which order they
  had to be installed in :)
 
 I'm getting errors on the e14 package.  Seems like my imlib is broken
 
 Error message when I start E14
 enlightenment: error in loading shared libraries
 /usr/lib/libpng.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info.

I had this error once too, just not with E, but with some QT apps. It's
got to do with your libstdc++ being out of date I think. When I upgraded
my libstdc++, things started working again. I don't remember if I 
upgraded libc too at that time, so you might want to try that also.

Maarten

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Re: Now I've done it! [root re-partitioning mess]

1998-07-23 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Perhaps you do have those libs (in name, anyway). I know that much is trimmed 
from
libc to make everything fit on the boot floppy.

Jeff Schreiber wrote:

 Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ah, a familiar story. So much for rescue by the rescue disk. Dig the shared
 lib(s) you're missing and copy them into /lib/ after you boot the rescue
 disk, then run restore. My bo machine shows:

 All those libs seemed to be located in my  /lib/ (perhaps theres a version
 thing I don't have correct).

 I get an error about __bsd_signal.

 -Jeff

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Graphical Linux Logo on boot

1998-07-23 Thread Curt E. Spann




Hello,
 I am wondering if there is 
any Linux version of the boot screen like in Win95. So as linux is booting 
instead of seeing all that informtion it will be a graphical image of Linux or 
something. If there isn't one I would like to make one. Is it even 
possibly to make it? Will I have to modify the kernel or 
what?

 
Curt 

 



Re: cd rom drives

1998-07-23 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

 now.. here's the dumb newbie question.. apart from staying away from plug
 and pray, is there any complication to installing a cd-rom drive and new
 modem?  do i have to invoke prayers to any particular UNIX gods?  or do i
 get to shove the new stuff into their proper bays and boot up?

You should be able to use just about any drop-in replacement IDE
ATAPI or SCSI (if you have SCSI) CD-ROM drive.  Most modems should also
work but stay away from Winmodems.

-Ossama


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Re: cd rom drives

1998-07-23 Thread Will Lowe
 newbie alert.
Greetings. 

 now.. here's the dumb newbie question.. apart from staying away from plug
 and pray, is there any complication to installing a cd-rom drive and new
 modem?  do i have to invoke prayers to any particular UNIX gods?  or do i
 get to shove the new stuff into their proper bays and boot up?
Well,  that depends entirely on which cd-rom drives and modems you'd like
to install.  If you haven't already been told this,  avoid _everything_
labelled anything like Winmodem ... they just plain won't work.

What do you plan to attach the CD drive to?  IDE?  SCSI?  Soundcard?  Will
it attach in the same way as the one it's replacing?

For modems,  I'd get something that is hw-configurable (w/jumpers) if you
don't have a pnp bios.  My pnp soundcard and modem work fine with my pnp
bios (I don't use pnptools or anything) but it sounds like your computer
is older,  and so likely isn't pnp-biosed.  And a modem that speaks a good
standard Hayes-AT command set is a good idea (don't know if you can get
one that doesn't do this,  these days).

Will


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Mirror after release

1998-07-23 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
I keep a mirror of the frozen distribution (rooted at
/debian/dists/frozen) of Debian and was wondering how the directory
structure will change on ftp.debian.org after the release tonight. Do
they just rename/relink frozen - stable? I just want to know how to
adjust my mirror configuration file and the corresponding directories
so I don't have to download the whole distribution. What I'm thinking
I have to do is:

In my mirror configuration file just change

  remote_dir=/debian/dists/frozen
to
  remote_dir=/debian/dists/stable

and do
  mv local root/debian/dists/frozen  local root/debian/dists/stable

Is this right?

Thanks,
Gary


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Re: Graphical Linux Logo on boot

1998-07-23 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Curt E. Spann wrote:

 I am wondering if there is any Linux version of the boot screen like
 in Win95.  So as linux is booting instead of seeing all that informtion
 it will be a graphical image of Linux or something. If there isn't one
 I would like to make one.  Is it even possibly to make it?  Will I have
 to modify the kernel or what? 

The problem is mostly that linux doesn't do graphics in the kernel
-- you'd have to start x or svgalib _while_ the kernel is booting to show
a logo like that,  which I don't think can be done (X and SVGlib both seem
to depend on things that are done during the boot process).
There is an ascii-linux-logo program floating around someplace (no
clue where),  or you could design an ascii-logo and just dump it to the
screen at some point early in the boot scripts.
Will


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Re: Graphical Linux Logo on boot

1998-07-23 Thread Marsh Ray
From: Curt E. Spann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am wondering if there is any Linux version of the boot screen like in Win95.
 So as linux is booting instead of seeing all that informtion it will be
 a graphical image of Linux or something. If there isn't one I would like
 to make one.  Is it even possibly to make it?  Will I have to modify the
 kernel or what?

There has been plenty of discussion about this over on the linux kernel
development lists.  In general, it's easy to do for any specific
hardware configuration, (Intel with VGA is all Win95 supports) but
no way to do it across platforms. Maybe if/when the KGI/GGI stuff makes
it into the kernel, this capability will be added.

If this is important for your application, someone has probably written
a kernel patch.

- Marsh


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Re: Graphical Linux Logo on boot

1998-07-23 Thread servis
*-Curt E. Spann (23 Jul)
| Hello,
| I am wondering if there is any Linux version of the boot screen like in 
Win95.  So as linux is booting instead of seeing all that informtion it will be 
a graphical image of Linux or something. If there isn't one I would like to 
make one.  Is it even possibly to make it?  Will I have to modify the kernel or 
what?
| 
| Curt
| 
| 
(wrap your lines)

There are some unsupported kernel patches that draw a penguin on the
screen while still showing the boot text.

For 2.0.x series of kernels
http://www.linuxhq.com/patch/20-p0555.html

For 2.1.x series of kernels
http://www.linuxhq.com/patch/21-p0803.html
http://www.linuxhq.com/patch/21-p0661.html
http://www.linuxhq.com/patch/21-p0651.html

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System timer resolution

1998-07-23 Thread Juan Pedro Lara Mendiola
¡Hello friends!
I need to know how I can improve the system timer resolution. I think
that I have to change a system variable named HZ. That  variable
establishes the timer interrupt frequency (defined 100 Hz). I need to
use timers with resolution less than miliseconds. What do I have to
do? Thank.
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Re: Enlightenment, Fnlib, and Imlib - get 'em while they're hot

1998-07-23 Thread Richard L. Alhama
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Maarten Boekhold wrote:

 On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Richard L. Alhama wrote:
 
  On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Damon Muller wrote:
  
  I'm getting errors on the e14 package.  Seems like my imlib is broken
  
  Error message when I start E14
  enlightenment: error in loading shared libraries
  /usr/lib/libpng.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info.
 
 I had this error once too, just not with E, but with some QT apps. It's
 got to do with your libstdc++ being out of date I think. When I upgraded
 my libstdc++, things started working again. I don't remember if I 
 upgraded libc too at that time, so you might want to try that also.
 
 Maarten

Thanks I'll do that. 

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Re: Mirror after release

1998-07-23 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On 23 Jul 1998, Gary L. Hennigan wrote:

 I keep a mirror of the frozen distribution (rooted at
 /debian/dists/frozen) of Debian and was wondering how the directory
 structure will change on ftp.debian.org after the release tonight. Do
 they just rename/relink frozen - stable?

Yes, in the dists directory, the symlinks frozen and stable will be
removed and a new symlink stable will be created pointing to hamm.

 I just want to know how to
 adjust my mirror configuration file and the corresponding directories
 so I don't have to download the whole distribution.

Then you might better mirror the hamm directory and not dists/frozen!
You may mirror also the dists directory excluding slink, or do create the
dists directory by hand.

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Official 2.0 CD's available Friday??

1998-07-23 Thread Young, Ed

I received an email from one of the CD vendors on the Debian distribution
network (www.netgod.net) that the Official 2.0 CD's will ship Friday, July
23rd. 

Is this correct? Does this mean that Hamm (2.0) has gone from beta to full
release? 

I've been folowing this list and the announce list and haven't seen anything
about the 2.0 moving from beta to full release ('0fficial 2.0'). 

Have I missed something? 

Thank  you, 

Ed 

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 -Original Message-
 From: Craig Sanders [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 3:55 AM
 To:   Debian-User
 Subject:  autoup.sh v0.28 released
 
 
 v0.28: 1998-07-23 (Craig Sanders)
  - libstdc++2.8 has moved from libs/ to base/
  - libnet-perl has moved from interpreters/ to base/
 
 as usual, it is available from
 
   http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ (primary site)
   ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/
 and
   http://taz.net.au/autoup/
 
 
 
 autoup.tar.gz on the primary site has also been updated with all the
 latest versions of stuff from hamm.  it weighs in at 9.1MB and includes: 
 
 -r--r--r-- root/root450820 1998-07-17 07:55 bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 13912 1997-05-08 00:00 data-dumper_2.07-1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root166586 1998-06-23 20:41 dpkg-dev_1.4.0.23.2.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 13544 1998-04-28 09:46 dpkg-ftp_1.4.9.6.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 21946 1998-05-12 11:04 dpkg-mountable_0.7.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root341616 1998-06-23 20:41 dpkg_1.4.0.23.2.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root181344 1998-05-22 08:56 ldso_1.9.9-1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root284268 1998-06-12 12:21 libc5_5.4.38-1.1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root580872 1998-07-17 08:26 libc6_2.0.7t-1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root254826 1997-10-07 13:55 libg++272_2.7.2.8-0.1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root235522 1998-06-08 10:42 libg++27_2.7.2.1-14.4.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 17296 1998-05-25 12:29 libgdbm1_1.7.3-25.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 17230 1998-05-25 12:29 libgdbmg1_1.7.3-25.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 65308 1997-04-28 00:00 libnet-perl_1.0502-1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 69678 1998-07-17 07:55 libreadline2_2.1-10.1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 75864 1998-07-17 07:55 libreadlineg2_2.1-10.1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 94784 1998-07-02 08:10
 libstdc++2.8_2.90.29-0.6.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root   1340204 1998-07-17 08:26 locales_2.0.7t-1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root111006 1998-04-16 11:09 ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2.1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root124368 1998-07-17 09:51 ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-8.8.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root350948 1998-07-17 07:56 netbase_3.11-1.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root611710 1998-07-05 22:07 netstd_3.07-2.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root282680 1998-06-08 10:47 perl-base_5.004.04-6.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root   3125884 1998-06-08 10:47 perl_5.004.04-6.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 84354 1998-07-02 12:19 slang0.99.34_0.99.38-6.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root 83902 1998-07-02 12:19 slang0.99.38_0.99.38-6.deb
 -r--r--r-- root/root261268 1998-07-17 08:26 timezones_2.0.7t-1.deb
 
 craig
 
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Re: Enlightenment, Fnlib, and Imlib - get 'em while they're hot

1998-07-23 Thread Shaleh
Sheesh.  I packaged this thing to AVOID this mess (-:

E and all needed libs are now in Incoming on their way into slink.  If
you can wait three days or so, all should be cleaned up by dselect.

You do *NOT* need the -dev files of any lib that is on your sytem to use
E or any other app.  The -dev packages are there solely for compiling. 
If you never compile anything, you never need the -dev packages.

E is purely a C app.  I am not aware of any C++ being needed.  So how
libstdc++ affects it is beyond me.  More than likely you have an old
libpng.  Get the libs from slink.  All of them.

Thank you and enjoy your new window manager (-:


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(fwd) New boot logo patch, testers wanted

1998-07-23 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: New boot logo patch, testers wanted
Date: 20 Jul 1998 18:30:48 GMT
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Hello,


I have played a little bit with the penguin boot logo
patch for linux and added a few modifications.

Please give it a try and let me know what you think:

http://my.lava.de/~hanno/linux-bootlogo/

Note: This is a first beta version and might be
  unstable.

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Re: Graphical Linux Logo on boot

1998-07-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 23-Jul-98 Will Lowe wrote:
   There is an ascii-linux-logo program floating around someplace (no
 clue where),  or you could design an ascii-logo and just dump it to the
 screen at some point early in the boot scripts.

I think it's floating around in a lot of places. Here's a copy of my copy,
if you'd like it (I've forgotten where I got it from).
---see below


 #
###
   @##O#O##
  ##  @@#   #V#
## #  ##  VVV  ##
## @@@   ###    ######  # ## #  ##
##@  @#   #####  ## #####  ##   ###
##   @   @#   ## ##  ## ##  ### ####
##  @@#   ## ##  ## ##  ###QQ#   ##Q
##   # @@### ##  ## ## ## ## QQ#   #QQ
##  ## @@# #  ## ##  ###   #####   ##QQQ# #QQQ
    ###         ### # ##   Q###Q


---see above

Cheers,
Ted.



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xterm-debian and pine problem

1998-07-23 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

I just added the xterm-debian terminfo file in the appropriate Solaris 2.6
location on our Solaris machine, in accordance with what
/usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian says.  When I start up an xterm on our 
Solaris machine remotely using SSH on our hamm system (Solaris xterm
displayed on hamm system) and then run pine in that xterm I have problems
with the colors.  The colors look something along the lines of what
dselect looks like in an xterm with a white background.  However, the
highlight bar that you would normally see when selecting an e-mail to
read from the pine index is not at all visible.  There is no change in the
color of the text that is apparently below the highlight bar.  I tryed
reversing the video but the same problem of an invisible highlight bar
occurs.  If I do a set term=xterm in the very same xterm and then re-run
pine the problem doesn't occur.  Similarly, if I slogin into the Solaris
machine and run pine I don't have the highlight problem, even though the
terminal type is set to xterm-debian.  The problem only seems to occur
if I start up a Solaris xterm via remote from my hamm system.

Any ideas as to what the problem might be?  I imagine that the same thing
will happen with other curses based applications that use highlight bars.
Is this a bug in the xterm-debian terminfo file/entry?

Incidentally, I am running Pine 4.02.

Thanks,
-Ossama


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Stupid unix

1998-07-23 Thread Jack A Walker
Please excuse this lame non Debian specific question.  Is there a simple
way to change all filenames in a directory so they are lowercase?  I would
like to change all the *.cpp and *.h files in a project directory to be
lowercase letters only.  I know this seems like a lame task but it would
simplify working on some of my source at home on Linux.  I use Windoesn't
4.0 at work which retains name case but doesn't use it.

Thanks
Jack



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Re: autoup.sh v0.28 released

1998-07-23 Thread JonesMB
Now you tell me about the autoup.sh v0.28 upgrade :-)

Yesterday I did some more hunting and found the 2 packages that autoup.sh 
v0.27 expected to be in libs - I found them in base.  I downloaded them and 
autoup'ed again.  It installed everything but it still complained about some 
conflicts.

After that I did dselect to complete the process.  There were some more 
complaints along the way (fvwm  compface) but dselect went thru all the way 
to the end.  The system even came up after the reboot!!  So far most apps seem 
to work.

What failed to work is fvwm and netscape and StarOffice - 3 apps that I 
probably use the most.  Not a good thing!!  If I bring up fvwm via 
startx/.xinitrc it fails with a Seg fault.  If it comes up thru xdm/.xsession 
it works ok.  Wierd as my ~/.xsession is just a sym link to ~/.xinitrc
I remember reading somewhere that there is a netsape that works with libc6.  
Guess it is time to do some web searching for it.  What can I do about 
StarOffice?  I had StarOffice 4 working before the upgrade.  I also see the 
rvplayer which I guess will solve my previous problems.

This bo-hamm upgrade is a less hairy process than the documentation implies.

ok enough rambling.

jmb


v0.28: 1998-07-23 (Craig Sanders)
 - libstdc++2.8 has moved from libs/ to base/
 - libnet-perl has moved from interpreters/ to base/

as usual, it is available from

   http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ (primary site)
   ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/
and
   http://taz.net.au/autoup/



autoup.tar.gz on the primary site has also been updated with all the
latest versions of stuff from hamm.  it weighs in at 9.1MB and includes: 

-r--r--r-- root/root450820 1998-07-17 07:55 bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 13912 1997-05-08 00:00 data-dumper_2.07-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root166586 1998-06-23 20:41 dpkg-dev_1.4.0.23.2.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 13544 1998-04-28 09:46 dpkg-ftp_1.4.9.6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 21946 1998-05-12 11:04 dpkg-mountable_0.7.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root341616 1998-06-23 20:41 dpkg_1.4.0.23.2.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root181344 1998-05-22 08:56 ldso_1.9.9-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root284268 1998-06-12 12:21 libc5_5.4.38-1.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root580872 1998-07-17 08:26 libc6_2.0.7t-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root254826 1997-10-07 13:55 libg++272_2.7.2.8-0.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root235522 1998-06-08 10:42 libg++27_2.7.2.1-14.4.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 17296 1998-05-25 12:29 libgdbm1_1.7.3-25.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 17230 1998-05-25 12:29 libgdbmg1_1.7.3-25.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 65308 1997-04-28 00:00 libnet-perl_1.0502-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 69678 1998-07-17 07:55 libreadline2_2.1-10.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 75864 1998-07-17 07:55 libreadlineg2_2.1-10.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 94784 1998-07-02 08:10 libstdc++2.8_2.90.29-0.6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root   1340204 1998-07-17 08:26 locales_2.0.7t-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root111006 1998-04-16 11:09 ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2.1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root124368 1998-07-17 09:51 ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-8.8.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root350948 1998-07-17 07:56 netbase_3.11-1.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root611710 1998-07-05 22:07 netstd_3.07-2.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root282680 1998-06-08 10:47 perl-base_5.004.04-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root   3125884 1998-06-08 10:47 perl_5.004.04-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 84354 1998-07-02 12:19 slang0.99.34_0.99.38-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root 83902 1998-07-02 12:19 slang0.99.38_0.99.38-6.deb
-r--r--r-- root/root261268 1998-07-17 08:26 timezones_2.0.7t-1.deb

craig

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UMSDOS on Debian

1998-07-23 Thread Salvador Bosque i Puy
I would like to install Debian without partitioning a disk. 
Is it possible to install Debian on a UMSDOS filesystem? Has anybody
some hints or can post any pointer regarding this issue? 

Thanks
Salvador Bosque


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Re: Stupid unix

1998-07-23 Thread aqy6633
 Please excuse this lame non Debian specific question.  Is there a simple
 way to change all filenames in a directory so they are lowercase?  I would
 like to change all the *.cpp and *.h files in a project directory to be
 lowercase letters only.  I know this seems like a lame task but it would
 simplify working on some of my source at home on Linux.  I use Windoesn't
 4.0 at work which retains name case but doesn't use it.

In csh/tcsh:

foreach file (*.h *.cpp)
  mv $file `echo $file | tr A-Z a-z`
end

In sh/bash:

for file in *.h *.cpp ; do
 mv $file `echo $file | tr A-Z a-z`
done

And please don't call UNIX stupid, OK?


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Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-23 Thread Rick Fadler
Hi,

I'm assuming with all the year 2000 compliance hype that there
must be a document somewhere describing the year 2000 issues
related to specific Debian releases of linux.

Specifically, we have built an embedded system using Debian
version 1.3. Being an embedded system, we've stripped out most of
the utilities and standard packages. We now need to verify that
our system is year 2000 compliant.

Does anyone have any information on this?

Rick Fadler
NetLeaf, Inc
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Re: Stupid unix

1998-07-23 Thread Michel LESPINASSE
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Jack A Walker wrote:

 Please excuse this lame non Debian specific question.  Is there a simple
 way to change all filenames in a directory so they are lowercase?  I would
 like to change all the *.cpp and *.h files in a project directory to be
 lowercase letters only.  I know this seems like a lame task but it would
 simplify working on some of my source at home on Linux.  I use Windoesn't
 4.0 at work which retains name case but doesn't use it.

I use the following macro command in zsh (it might be portable to other
shells, or maybe not) :

lower() { for i in $*; mv -f $i ${i:l} 2/dev/null }

usage is : lower filenames
ex. lower *
or  lower *.C
etc...

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cd_autoup.sh and hamm upgrade problems.

1998-07-23 Thread Clemmitt Sigler
Hi,

I'm not subscribed to debian-user any more because of the volume, but
please feel free to respond to me directly via e-mail if you have
any questions, comments, etc.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I helped a friend upgrade from bo to hamm yesterday over the phone.
This is not easy in and of itself :^)  But we had problems with
the cd_autoup.sh script and with dselect as well.  Upgrade details:

1.) 1.3.1 installed on a Pentium II 266 (Gateway machine), upgrading
to hamm beta so we could get the latest XFree86 SVGA server to support
his STB Velocity 128 video card.  Originally installed from the
Official Debian CD from CheapBytes last year, did *not* previously
upgrade using the 1.3.1r6 CD from CheapBytes.

2.) Upgrading using the 2.0 beta CD-ROM from CheapBytes.

3.) Upgrading using the cd_autoup.sh script available from ftp.debian.org,
the running dselect to upgrade all the packages to hamm.

4.) The original bo install might have been somewhat broken, because
my friend did it without my help.  This could explain some dselect
problems.  Also, perhaps there are problems with the CheapBytes CD?

Here's what we had problems with:

A.) The cd_autoup.sh script is slightly broken.  We cd'ed to /cdrom/hamm
before running the script because this seemed like the logical place to
be to me.  *No*place* on the CD corresponded the to definition of DM
in the shell script.  This meant we had to change the definition of the
variable DM to:

DM=./$ARCH

B.) The definition of the variable PKGS_NET is incorrect.  You need to
replace the line:

PKGS_NET=$( echo $PKGS_NET | sed -e $SEDSCRIPT )

with:

PKGS_NETBASE=$( echo $PKGS_NETBASE | sed -e $SEDSCRIPT )
PKGS_NETSTD=$( echo $PKGS_NETSTD | sed -e $SEDSCRIPT )

C.) We had several packages fail to be removed by cd_autoup.sh because
they were somehow on hold.  We had to do:

# dpkg --force-hold -r packagename

by hand on these to fix this, then rerun and rerun cd_autoup.sh until it
ran without errors.  These packages being on hold may have been caused
by an originally broken install of bo(?).

D.) It's hard to talk somebody through running dselect over the phone
because there's so much info on the screen that's vital.  But even
considering that, we had alot of problems.  We had dependency conflicts
that we couldn't easily resolve because several installed packages
depended on another package, but this package wasn't offered for
installation on the resolution screen.  This seems strange to me, I've
never seen dselect act like this before.  Finally we found the needed
packages by searching through the Select menu and got them installed.

E.) Dselect just plain old decided for itself to install 9wm et al
and uninstall fvwm and fvwm2.  We didn't even check on these selections
because we figured it was a no-brainer.  We did catch the 9wm stuff before
running Install, but fvwm and fvwm2 were uninstalled and we had to go
back and reinstall them.

F.) *Lots* of his packages were listed as Hold and I have no idea
why.

Maybe the original install was broken and caused the hold problems.
Maybe the dpkg database got messed up somehow and caused the 9wm
and fvwm installation/removal problems.  Maybe the CheapBytes CD is
somewhat broken.  I'm not sure, I'm just documenting the problems
we had with the upgrade.  In the end we successfully upgraded to hamm
and now he needs to take care of the held packages and install and
configure the SVGA X server for his video card.

I use and love Debian and plan to keep on using it.  But this was a
very exhausting and frustrating experience.  Maybe alot of the problems
are because I'm dumb.  I hope so, and I hope other people's upgrade
experiences go alot smoother than ours.  Thanks for listening.

Clemmitt Sigler
Va. Tech Physics Dept.


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Re: Enlightenment, Fnlib, and Imlib - get 'em while they're hot

1998-07-23 Thread Richard L. Alhama
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Shaleh wrote:

 Sheesh.  I packaged this thing to AVOID this mess (-:
 
 E and all needed libs are now in Incoming on their way into slink.  If
 you can wait three days or so, all should be cleaned up by dselect.
 
 Thank you and enjoy your new window manager (-:
It's zlib1g that's broken.

Thanks for the help.  Package E15 again! 
 
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Re: Enlightenment, Fnlib, and Imlib - get 'em while they're hot

1998-07-23 Thread Shaleh
Richard L. Alhama wrote:
 Thanks for the help.  Package E15 again!

E .15 rrrggg


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RE: Stupid unix

1998-07-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 23-Jul-98 Jack A Walker wrote:
 Please excuse this lame non Debian specific question.  Is there a simple
 way to change all filenames in a directory so they are lowercase?  I would
 like to change all the *.cpp and *.h files in a project directory to be
 lowercase letters only.  I know this seems like a lame task but it would
 simplify working on some of my source at home on Linux.  I use Windoesn't
 4.0 at work which retains name case but doesn't use it.

Not so lame, I think ...

Try

  for i in *.cpp ; do j=`echo $i | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` ; mv $i $j; done
  for i in *.h   ; do j=`echo $i | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` ; mv $i $j; done

but I STRONGLY suggest you first try it out on a dummy directory which you have
populated with a suitable variety of filenames, just to check that it really
does what you want and nothing else. (Also to make sure you got it exactly
right -- watch out for those quotes).

Also, ABOVE ALL make sure that there are not two or more files in the same
directory whose names differ only in the Case of some of the letters -- you'll
end up zapping all but one of them if you use the above.

Best of luck,
Ted.



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Re: Stupid unix

1998-07-23 Thread servis
*-Jack A Walker (23 Jul)
| Please excuse this lame non Debian specific question.  Is there a simple
| way to change all filenames in a directory so they are lowercase?  I would
| like to change all the *.cpp and *.h files in a project directory to be
| lowercase letters only.  I know this seems like a lame task but it would
| simplify working on some of my source at home on Linux.  I use Windoesn't
| 4.0 at work which retains name case but doesn't use it.
| 

Among the other suggestions that you have received you could also
install the mmv package.  Great for mass renames, converstions, etc.

From the man page:

DESCRIPTION
   Mmv  moves  (or  copies,  appends, or links, as specified)
   each source file matching a from  pattern  to  the  target
   name specified by the to pattern.  This multiple action is
   performed safely, i.e. without any unexpected deletion  of
   files  due  to  collisions  of  target names with existing
   filenames or with other target names.  Furthermore, before
   doing  anything,  mmv  attempts  to detect any errors that
   would result from the entire set of actions specified  and
   gives the user the choice of either proceeding by avoiding
   the offending parts or aborting.



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