Re: Debian Netscape Installer and glibc2 Communicator 4.06

1998-09-06 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:

 Jianbo Zhang wrote:
  
  Hi Debians,
  
  When I run dpkg -i netscape4_4.0.12.deb, I got some error message: it
  says that some libc5 and motif  related files could not be found.  So I
  installed Communicator 4.06 in my fresh Debian (2.0) Linux box with
  nsinstall. So far I did not find any problem, but I still do not know
  why Debian netscape installer does not work for me. Help is highly
  appreciated.
  
  Jianbo
  
 
 
   The v4 installer assumes it is installing the libc5 version of NS, thus
 it has dependancies on the libc5 package.  We now have libc6 versions of
 NS, but there hasn't yet been an update to these Deb installers.  So you
 did what you had to do (install NS without the Deb installer).  I did
 the same thing.

The worst thing about this seems to me, that the filenames for
communinctor-4.5-libc5 and communinctor-4.5-libc6 are the same. The
installer script couldn't tell the difference from the filename like it
does now.

And for the libc6 communicator there has to come a new installer packages
anyway, since it depends on other libraries than the libc5 communicator
depends on.

Remco


Re: running root X programs

1998-09-06 Thread shaul
 
 I know this has been addressed before, I've tried searching the archives
 for it, but without success. 
 
 How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 
 
# Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 16:19:01 -0500
# From: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Organization: Business Data Services, Inc.
# MIME-Version: 1.0
# To: Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org
# Subject: export XAUTHORITY=$(echo /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/*)
# Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
# -
# Will Lowe wrote:
#
#  On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# 
#   Unless explicitly told to do so using xhost, X does not allow anybody
#   other than the person who started it to open windows on its desktop,
#   not even root.  I could never figure out the proper syntax for xhost,
#   however, so I usually end up just using 'xhost +' which disables all
#   access control and then 'xhost -' when I'm done.
# 
#  That's pretty insecure.  I've seen instances where people on our campus
#  (admittedly,  a large one with relatively insecure systems anyway) have
#  had other people connect to their X displays because they'd done the
#  xhost + bit.  Generally more a nuisance than a real security concern,
#  but still... xhost + locahost is only marginally more secure ... with
#  that one,  just anyone on the x machine can connect ... so on a system
#  which distributes campus email,  that's a few thousand people here...
# 
#  Go for sudo.
#
# Actually, it's potentially much more than a nuisance. An X client can capture 
# all your keystrokes. You do the math.
#
# To just allow root to run an X app when you logged in as someone other than 
# root do:
#
# chilin$ su
# Password:
# chilin# export XAUTHORITY=$(echo /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/*)
#
# This way you can log access the server using the xauth data which only you and
# root have access to. Neato.
# Try it!
#
# - --
# Jens B. Jorgensen
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: X windows...

1998-09-06 Thread David Warnock
Noel Yap wrote:
 
 David Warnock wrote:
  I suggest you look in the man pages for startx. You should see that the
  default X server to start is X. On my system that was starting the wrong
  server so I changed X to be a symbolic link to XF86_SVGA.
   
 On a Debian system, /usr/bin/X11/X is not a symlink at all but actually
 a wrapper program that checks the file /etc/X11/Xserver for the proper X
 server to call.  You'll want the first line in that file to read
 /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA.  See /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for more
 information.
 
Noel

Thanks, looks like I goofed. I was sure I had not done this the right
way but had a lot of dificulty finding what was happening. There seem to
be so many files used in the startup of X.

I guess that if I get dselect to re-install the base X package I can get
the correct X file back?

That README.Debian is bery useful - I wish I had found it sooner.

Thanks

Dave


2 net cards on the same network

1998-09-06 Thread detre
does anyone know how to set up the routes to have 2 network
cards(differtent ip's) on the same network?


Thanks,
Tod Detre


Re: wmaker 0.19

1998-09-06 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Paulo José da Silva e Silva; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Today I have dowloaded and isntaled wmaker 0.19 from slik (unstable)
 using apt.
 
 The instalation was OK, but I can not start wmaker now. I get the
 following error message:
 
 $ wmaker
 /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker: error in loading shared libraries
 : undefined symbol: _Xsetlocale
 
 I first though that it could be some change in xbase and upgraded it
 too. But I still am in trouble.
 
 Does anymone know if I should install some other package or how to solve
 this?
 
 Thanks 
 
 Paulo
 
 PS: I dont know if this can help, bu typing locale in my terminal I get:
 
 $ locale
 LANG=en_US
 LC_CTYPE=en_US
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US
 LC_TIME=en_US
 LC_COLLATE=en_US
 LC_MONETARY=en_US
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US
 LC_ALL=

I can run windowmaker 0.19.1-1 package on a 2.0 system without problems. Di
you install debian packaged version? Did you get any errors during the
installation phase? I know that libproplist needed to be upgraded to 0.8*
package; but I haven't tried it without libprop being already upgraded

HTH

damir


Re: 2 net cards on the same network

1998-09-06 Thread Frederic Breitwieser
does anyone know how to set up the routes to have 2 network
cards(differtent ip's) on the same network?

The configs would be the same, except your default route would have to be
one of the cards.  Then, if the card fails, you'd delete the default route,
and add it to the second card.

Typically, this isn't utilized since you won't increase the bandwidth at
all, unless some of your other devices on the network go through one card,
and the rest go through the other cards.

I do this with my NT file servers - the first NIC card sits on the network
that feeds the rest of the house, and the second NIC connects to a small
hub, which the backup server sit upon, so when ArcServe (backup software)
is hammering the network, its not so apparent on the public side of the
network throughout the rest of the house.  I can back up the server, and
get throughput close to 40Mb a second, without hampering my other
workstations from accessing resources, say, the internet for example.

Two NICs are typically used for a dual-homed system, where the segments are
different for each NIC card.  One card still has to be the default route
for access to items external to the two segments.


Frederic Breitwieser
Bridgeport, CT 06606

Homebrew Automotive Website:
http://www.xephic.dynip.com/

Wanted - RWD Buick Flywheel that fits the 3.8L / 4.1L!
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Slang vs. ncurses.

1998-09-06 Thread shaul
At first glance both Slang and ncurses seems to me comparable:
They both intend to help the programmer accomodate the terminal.
1) Is it correct ?
2) can someone give a short comparison of these 2 libraries ?

Thank you.




Re: Your friends...... whatever.

1998-09-06 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 01:56:57PM -0400, Igor Grobman wrote:
 
 I am the debian anti-spam person,
(much deleted)

Debian-user is amazingly spam free.  I could tell that someone was 
doing something, but I had no idea who or what.  Thanks, Igor

Mike


RE: How to install via nfs, ftp?

1998-09-06 Thread Hank Fay
Jan,

when you reboot after doing the 5 disks, etc., you should be in dselect.
If not, type dselect.  Then pick the method, which will be FTP, and just
pick all the defaults, unless you want to pick an mirror site closer to
where you are.  Then pick your packages, and you're off and running.  Well,
in my case more like up and walking. s  I've done this floppy + ftp
install about 8 times now -- would have been once if I had known what I was
doing. s

Hank

-Original Message-
From: Jan Krupa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 8:29 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: How to install via nfs, ftp?


I have on one partition (1G) Win95, Fat32. I would like to install
Debian on the rest part of hard disk (2G) but the problem is that
I do not have CD-ROM with the distribution and AFIK there is no way
to install debian from Win95 FAT32 partition so I need to install
debian via internet (ftp, fns). How it is possible?

I used rawrite2 to prepare two 1440 floppies: resc1440.bin
and drv1440.bin (from Linux/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/).
I booted compter from floppy resc1440.bin and then installed modules and
drivers from floppy drv1440.bin then configured modules and drivers
(installed support for nfs, eth0, network card) then configured
network( host name, domain name computer's IP address,...).
After that I chose to install *the base system* via nfs but did not know
how to type the  name of nfs server. e.g. I tried
to type 'debian.org/dist but it did not work.

Could someone please explain to me how to install debian
via nfs or ftp ? I mean which floppies should I prepare and
how to type the name of the nfs server ?

Of course I have other possibility to install the base system
from 5 floppies but what then ? The file basecont.txt shows that
the 5 floppies do not contain e.g. ftp.

For now the only way I see to install debian on my computer is
to buy distribution on CD-ROM but it would be faster(earlier) to install
via ftp.

Thanks in advance

Jan Krupa


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Re: wmaker 0.19

1998-09-06 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 6 Sep 98 00:15:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damir J. Naden) wrote:

I can run windowmaker 0.19.1-1 package on a 2.0 system without problems. Di
you install debian packaged version? Did you get any errors during the
installation phase? I know that libproplist needed to be upgraded to 0.8*
package; but I haven't tried it without libprop being already upgraded

Cut and pasted directly from the Debian bug-tracking system, where
this has been reported.  Try both of these things, which might (or
might not) work.  I'm having the same problem myself, but haven't
tried the second option yet.


 1. As root, run ldconfig. If that fixes it, please report it back to
me. (I *hope* it doesn't fix it)  [note: look at the bug-reporting
system to find out who me is]

 2. If 1. fails, upgrade to a newer version of xlib6g. You can pick
the one in debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.2.3-1.deb
This fixed the problem for another user.


Rob Wilderspin
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But I need it to crash once every few days - 
reboots are the only chance I get to sleep...
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Re: using debian passwords in NT.

1998-09-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 06:15:15PM +0200, Pere Camps wrote:
   Simple question:
 
   Does anybody know of a way of making winNT use the usernames and the
 passwords of a debian machine?
   
   If so, please tell me!

I think you would need to set up your Debian machine with samba
acting as a primary domain controller. PDC support is experimental
if present at all, as I recall (it is to be implemented for samba 2.0 IIRC).

Then set your NT workstations to log in to the domain. Your NT workstations
will already have to use passwords set on the Debian box for shares
on the Debian box, but they will need local NT accounts to login. With 
domains, you are actually authenticated for login from a remote server too.


Hamish
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Getting ELM to Work

1998-09-06 Thread DMDP
How do I configure elm to connect to my local provider?

I have been reading and re-reading the LINUX Walnut Creek book and getting
nowhere.

Thanks,

Denis


upgrade queries

1998-09-06 Thread Jim McCloskey

Forgive me for reintroducing a topic which has probably been done to
death on the list in recent months, but I had to unsubscribe for most
of the summer-months and haven't seem recent postings.

I'm currently running Debian 1.3. I have the 2.0 binary CD and also
the CD_autoup.sh script written by Craig Sanders. I'm hesitating about
the upgrade though and I was wondering if someone could take the time
to answer two questions:

  1. What improvement in performance (or kinds of improvement) should
 I expect to notice?

  2. I have in /usr/local a number of non-debian programs that I use a
 lot and that I'm very attached to (xv, rv_player). What are the
 chances that they would be broken because of the library upgrade?

Thanks very much for any help or advice,

Jim McCloskey


Re: wmaker 0.19

1998-09-06 Thread Paulo J. da Silva e Silva
Robert Wilderspin writes:
  Cut and pasted directly from the Debian bug-tracking system, where
  this has been reported.  Try both of these things, which might (or
  might not) work.  I'm having the same problem myself, but haven't
  tried the second option yet.
  
  
   1. As root, run ldconfig. If that fixes it, please report it back to
  me. (I *hope* it doesn't fix it)  [note: look at the bug-reporting
  system to find out who me is]
  
   2. If 1. fails, upgrade to a newer version of xlib6g. You can pick
  the one in debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.2.3-1.deb
  This fixed the problem for another user.
  
  

Thanks,

Upgrading xli6g made the trick.

Paulo.



Printing accross a LAN

1998-09-06 Thread David Warnock
My fileserver (running Hamm) has 2 printers attached. The printcap and
everything is setup so I can print. This machine also runs samba and
both printers are made available across the lan by samba.

When I use Windows NT on a client I can print to either printer attached
to the server via samba.

When I use Linux on a client how do I configure it so that I can print
to either printer? I am not currently running the samba client (instead
I am using nfs to mount the server directories). 

Thanks for any help

Dave


sound card

1998-09-06 Thread Xiaonan Ma

Running hamm with 2.0.34 kernel. The sound card is YAMAHA OPL 3-SAx
on motherboard. It's an integrated chip, so description under Win95 
only shows audio device for YAMAHA OPL 3-SAx ..., midi device for
YAMAHA OPL 3-SAx  I tried to config with Generic OPL2/OPL3 FM
synthesizer support (don't know if it's an PnP card, tried isapnp with
configure file generated by pnpdump, looks fine). /proc/devices
contains 14 sound, cat /dev/sndstat shows:
---
Config options: 0

Installed drivers: 
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM

Card config: 
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0

Audio devices:

Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3

Midi devices:

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:

However, cat sample.au  /dev/audio gives /dev/audio: Device not
configured. 

Any suggestion? Did anyone successfully configure this kind of sound
card? Thanks a lot in advance.

xiaonan




Re: StarOffice

1998-09-06 Thread David Warnock
David,

Thanks for your answer.

I am very new to Linux and Unix. I have read a bit about the diferent
libraries and I have created a couple of symbolic links but I am not
clear about this part of your message.

 mkdir /usr/local/StarOffice
 mkdir /usr/local/StarOffice/lib
 ln -s libc.so.5 libXpm.so.4
 ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.38 libc.so.5

What is my current directory when I make these links. What do they
actually mean?

Thanks

Dave


Re: 2 net cards on the same network

1998-09-06 Thread detre
Thanks, I want to do this because one card is an ATM card which is
155mb/sec but is in pre alpha stages in linux. I want the other card to be
there as a backup in case the ATM fails. I guess with that setup I could
just set both to the same IP and leave the ethernet car unconfigured
unless the ATM card dies. 

BTW does anyone have a good script/something to test and see if an
interface has failed? I'm thinking the best way to do this is have
anouther computer connected to the server and to the network and have
the second monitor the server and tell theserver it if the ATM card has
failed. 

On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Frederic Breitwieser wrote:

 does anyone know how to set up the routes to have 2 network
 cards(differtent ip's) on the same network?
 
 The configs would be the same, except your default route would have to be
 one of the cards.  Then, if the card fails, you'd delete the default route,
 and add it to the second card.
 
 Typically, this isn't utilized since you won't increase the bandwidth at
 all, unless some of your other devices on the network go through one card,
 and the rest go through the other cards.
 
 I do this with my NT file servers - the first NIC card sits on the network
 that feeds the rest of the house, and the second NIC connects to a small
 hub, which the backup server sit upon, so when ArcServe (backup software)
 is hammering the network, its not so apparent on the public side of the
 network throughout the rest of the house.  I can back up the server, and
 get throughput close to 40Mb a second, without hampering my other
 workstations from accessing resources, say, the internet for example.
 
 Two NICs are typically used for a dual-homed system, where the segments are
 different for each NIC card.  One card still has to be the default route
 for access to items external to the two segments.
 
 
 Frederic Breitwieser
 Bridgeport, CT 06606
 
 Homebrew Automotive Website:
 http://www.xephic.dynip.com/
 
 Wanted - RWD Buick Flywheel that fits the 3.8L / 4.1L!
 -
 


Re: PON As Normal User

1998-09-06 Thread mwb
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, DMDP wrote:

 If there anyway to have a normal user access PON?
 
Yes, but its been long enough that I don't remember all the the changes
that I made.  I do remember that I added the 'normal user' to the dip and
dialout groups.  After makingthese changes, check the /var/log/ppp.log
file when you run pon to figure out any other changes you might need.
If that doesn't work, e-mail me and I'll look at what I did a little
closer.

Mark
 
 


Cannot boot from hard drive

1998-09-06 Thread Lennox Reid
I am a first time user of Linux, and decided it would  be nice to use the
OS to try to save my old 386/33 (to some extent).  I downloaded the system
from the web, made the installation floppies, and seemed to have gotten
Linux installed okay.  However, when I tried to boot from the hard drive,
it came up with a prompt:  1FA: .  Nothing is echoed to the screen from
the keyboard, but if I hit ENTER, it comes up with another 1FA: prompt. 

It boots fine from the BOOT floppy I made, and sees the info on the hard
drive.  Thinking it was a problem with the HD, I reinstalled DOS and it
booted fine.  Has anyone else run into this or heard of it?  How can I fix
it?  It takes a LONG time to boot off of the floppy, and I'd rather not
have the hassle.

Thanks for your help!

-lennox




Whats the best Dist?

1998-09-06 Thread Rick




Hi 
all,
I am currently wondering what the best distribution of linux 
to get next would be, as i am a big fan of S.u.S.E. , RH and 
Debian

I am 
looking for most advanced, and biggest.

- 
currebtly i am running SuSE 5.2, but thaught i'd give a different dist a try 
next time.

PS I 
anyone reading this is in the UK and has a 1GB+ IDE HD lying around going really 
cheap (and i mean really cheap!) or would like to do a straight swap for a 14in 
ICL SVGA Vid (800x600 NI, 1024x768 Interlaced) - its a bit old, and the 800x600 
res is a little dark and fuzzy (640x480 and 1024x768 are real good 
though)


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Re: Cannot boot from hard drive

1998-09-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Lennox Reid wrote:

 : I am a first time user of Linux, and decided it would  be nice to use the
 : OS to try to save my old 386/33 (to some extent).  I downloaded the system
 : from the web, made the installation floppies, and seemed to have gotten
 : Linux installed okay.  However, when I tried to boot from the hard drive,
 : it came up with a prompt:  1FA: .  Nothing is echoed to the screen from
 : the keyboard, but if I hit ENTER, it comes up with another 1FA: prompt. 
 : 
 : It boots fine from the BOOT floppy I made, and sees the info on the hard
 : drive.  Thinking it was a problem with the HD, I reinstalled DOS and it
 : booted fine.  Has anyone else run into this or heard of it?  How can I fix
 : it?  It takes a LONG time to boot off of the floppy, and I'd rather not
 : have the hassle.

Edit /etc/lilo.conf, and comment out the `compact' line.  You may also
have to add the `linear' option.  Run lilo and reboot - that works with
most 386s and 486s I've setup.

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DEBIAN 2.0 INSTALL BLOCK DEVICE NAME

1998-09-06 Thread BOB'S MAIL




I am a first time installer of Debian 
Linux 2.0 with Win 98 on the computer.

What to I enter when on the installation program so I can get Emacs, X etc. 
when installing from the Binary i386 CD I read: 
Insert the CD Rom with the block device name:I 
enter: /dev/hda3, (have tried /dev/hda4  
/dev/hda5 with similar results)I get: Wrong FS 
type bad option and super block ON /dev/hda3The preceding install went 
fine. I do have a rudimentary Linux system with at least VII 
have Win98 on partition 1 and data on extended partition 2. Extended 
partition3 was adjusted during installation to 1,900 Mb Linux (native) and a 
190 Mbswap pertition by the Linux install.How to I look at the Linux 
partitions and adjust/delete them to start cleanagain (if that is 
needed)?I am using a Pentium 2, 300 MHz, 64 Mb ram, 6.4 Gb HD and an IDE 
CD-Rom onthe secondary (primary) IDE port.Again, What to I enter 
when on program installation I read: Insert the CD Rom 
with the block device name:TIABob Barth[EMAIL PROTECTED]


error compiling xemacs 20.4 from debian source

1998-09-06 Thread Matt Garman

I am trying to compile xemacs 20.4 withOUT gpm support because of the
CTRL-Z error in the console.

I got the three xemacs 20.4 files pertinant to building a debian
package.  I did a dpkg-source -x xemacs20*dsc then edited the
debian/rules file to remove gpm support.

For the actual build, I typed dpkg-buildpacke -us -uc from the top
level of the xemacs source.

A bit into the compilation, I get the following error:

/home/garman/temp/xemacs20-20.4/lib-src/profile.c: In function `reset_watch':
/home/garman/temp/xemacs20-20.4/lib-src/profile.c:51: too few arguments to 
function `gettimeofday'
/home/garman/temp/xemacs20-20.4/lib-src/profile.c: In function `get_time':
/home/garman/temp/xemacs20-20.4/lib-src/profile.c:64: too few arguments to 
function `gettimeofday'
m

Does anyone know what this problem is, and how I can fix it?

Note: I also got the vanilla source, and unpacked in in
/usr/local/src, trying to build my own xemacs 20.4 (versus a Deb
package), and encountered the same error.

Can someone suggest a viable solution?

Thanks a million!
Matt


X start-up problem

1998-09-06 Thread Tim Buller
I started having the following problem a couple days ago on one of my
slink-based i386 boxes when I try to start X via 'startx':

XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: July 15 1998
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.35 i686 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
  S3V: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
  s3_ViRGE
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, buttons: 3
(**) S3V: Graphics device ID: STB Nitro 3D
(**) S3V: Monitor ID: My Monitor
(--) S3V: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

--

strace'ing startx yields the following error:

connect(4, {sun_family=AF_UNIX, sun_path=/tmp/.X11-unix/X0}, 19) = -1
ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused)

This socket seems to be created okay:

(123) #  ls -la /tmp/.X11-unix/
total 2
drwxrwxrwx   2 root root 1024 Sep  6 02:47 ./
drwxrwxrwt   4 root root 1024 Sep  6 02:47 ../
srwxrwxrwx   1 root root0 Sep  6 02:47 X0=

I'm not sure what's going on here exactly. I have un and reinstalled xbase
and the S3V server packages. I also tried using the SVGA server and MetroX
4.3.0, with the same results. Any ideas would be appreciated...

Tim


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Re: running root X programs

1998-09-06 Thread chandran
Another idea, the simplest one I could think of: in your startx script, add
the line ``cat ~root/.Xauthority  ~/.Xauthority'' just after 
``serverargs=$serverargs -auth $HOME/.Xauthority''.  First startx as root to 
create the ~root/.Xauthority file and chgrp it so that only users in a group 
who locally access the machine can read it.  Only problem is the file is 
re-created whenever root uses startx, but I'd start X as the normal user anyway.

Chandran

Michael Beattie wrote on Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 11:33:43PM +1200..
 On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Andrew wrote:
  How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 
 
 Many ways...
 
 1) su in an xterm.. no worries.
 
 2) As root on a VC:
# xauth -f /home/[user]/.Xauthority extract - :0 | xauth merge -
# export DISPLAY=:0
# [prog] 
... no worries.
 
 3) the list goes on.. thats all I can think of at the mo. Anyone else?


Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-09-06 Thread Rafael Cordones Marcos
On Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 10:13:07PM +0200, Jens Ritter wrote:
 
 (I forwarded this mail from the Faq-O-Matic. Please obey the reply-to!
 Thanks Grimaldi)
 
 Petr.Herman writes in http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=170 :
 
 I have the PCI Planet ENW-8300 Combo ethernet card (plugged into the PCI
 Slot 2 of the Matsonic MS-5025S mainboard with the Cyrix 6x86MX PR200 and
 with the AMI PNP BIOS v.1.0A 07/15/95). The IRQ and I/O assigned by PCI
 BIOS are 11 and 0xd800 respectively. With Debian 1.3 bo I did install the
 module for EN2000 with the option io=0xd8000 and all was O.K. Now, after
 the entirely new installation of the Debian 2.0 hamm (kernel 2.0.34,
 without any ne2000 module - I presuppose, that the driver for the ne2000
 compatibles is compiled into the kernel) at the booting time I got the
 following message:
 

I had a similar problem with my NE2000 PCI network card. When I recompile the 
2.0.34 kernel I could choose PCI NE2000 Card (and I did) but it did not work. 
Then I remembered I had been able to use my card with Deb1.3.1 and chose *ISA* 
NE2000 when compiling the kernel and now works fine.

Hope it helps!

Rafa


upgrade problem: (Segmentation fault), core dumped

1998-09-06 Thread Fulko van Westrenen

Hello,

I hve some trouble upgrading from 1.3.1 to 2.0. I used the autoup.sh
script from www.debian.org and downloaded the required files
from ftp.debian.org this weekend.
All went well until the new bash took it's turn:

(Reading database ... 27298 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace bash 2.0-3 (using /tmp/base/bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb) ...
dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script killed by signal (Segmentation fault), 
core dumped
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
dpkg: ... it looks like that went OK.
dpkg: error processing /tmp/base/bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault), core
dumped
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault), 
core dumped
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/base/bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb

After this many programs crashed: (Segmentation fault), core dumped 
I got the system up and running after restoring from tape.
The problem now is that I don't know how to upgrade. I did the
routine twice: once from the LSL-CD, once using ftp. Both went
wrong. This costed me about 7 hours, and I'm not in the mood 
for another try.
It may be that after many upgradings from version 1.1 up until
now the system is not exactly as expected, but 1.3.1 runs very
stable.

Can someone please help me?
(All on a Pentium 200 with 64MB and a 5GB HD, mobo with VIA-VP2 chipset)

Thanks,
Fulko

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Re: /dev/audio

1998-09-06 Thread Rafael Cordones Marcos
qOn Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 10:22:59AM +0200, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote:
 - Every time I use tkdesk as a user it says permission denied to write to
 - /dev/audio. As root I hear the sounds fine.
 - What permissions do I have to cahnge.
 
 hmmm if you log on console you should be added to group audio
 as in /etc/login.defs:
 
 #
 # List of groups to add to the user's supplementary group set
 # when logging in on the console (as determined by the CONSOLE
 # setting).  Default is none.
 #
 # Use with caution - it is possible for users to gain permanent
 # access to these groups, even when not logged in on the console.
 # How to do it is left as an exercise for the reader...
 #
 CONSOLE_GROUPS  floppy:audio:cdrom
 
 how do you log in ? do you have this defined ? 

Hey! This looks like a better way to enable sound for users! I use to do it 
with the adduser command but I want to do it like you said. The problem is... 
how do I REMOVE a user from a group? I cannot find any info on this. Maybe just 
editing the apropriate files?

Thanks


Rafa


Re: DEBIAN 2.0 INSTALL BLOCK DEVICE NAME

1998-09-06 Thread Andrius Sabanas
 BOB'S MAIL wrote:
 
 I am a first time installer of Debian Linux 2.0 with Win 98 on the
 computer.
 
 What to I enter when on the installation program so I can get Emacs, X
 etc. when installing from the Binary i386 CD  I read:
 
 Insert the CD Rom with the block device name:
 
 I enter:
 
 /dev/hda3, (have tried /dev/hda4  /dev/hda5 with similar results)
 
 I get:
 
 Wrong FS type bad option and super block ON /dev/hda3
 
 The preceding install went fine.  I do have a rudimentary Linux system
 with at least VI
 
 I have Win98 on partition 1 and data on extended partition 2.
 Extended partition
 3 was adjusted during installation to 1,900 Mb Linux (native) and a
 190 Mb
 swap pertition by the Linux install.
 
 How to I look at the Linux partitions and adjust/delete them to start
 clean
 again (if that is needed)?
 
 I am using a Pentium 2, 300 MHz, 64 Mb ram, 6.4 Gb HD and an IDE
 CD-Rom on
 the secondary (primary) IDE port.
 
 Again, What to I enter when on program installation I read:
 
 Insert the CD Rom with the block device name:
 
 TIA
 
 Bob Barth
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Your CDROM device can not be /dev/hda - it is your HDD, and /dev/hda3,
/dev/hda4, etc., are partitions on your disk. CDROM should be something
like /dev/hdb(primary slave), /dev/hdc(secondary master) or
/dev/hdd(secondary slave).

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Re: [Debian] ISDN - Worldwide support

1998-09-06 Thread Thomas Adams
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 11:41:04AM +0200, Nils Rennebarth wrote:

 The hardware isn't the problem. This is an area where ISDN is the
 same all over the world (correct me someone if I'm wrong here)

Unfortunately yes. The primary difference between ISDN in different countries 
is if the telco provides the NT or not. This leads to devices which either 
have a built-in NT or not depending on the area they are sold in.

 The problem is the D-channel protocol which is different everywhere. There
 is DSSS1 in Europe (with a few subtle differences between the countries),
 NI-1 and another one in the US and about Japan I don't know. And in Europe
 there are the national ones too, like 1TR6 in Germany.

Well, I once had a Zyxel omni.net which could talk several D-channel protocols 
but which was available either with or without NT. In Germany it was sold 
without NT as the telco provides it and the manual stated it was available 
with an internal NT e.g. in the USA. This is probably what the original poster 
was wondering about. No, I don't know of a universal ISDN TA that operates 
everywhere.

 I don't know of a software that operates everywhere.

And this is the part of the original question which I didn't understand. 
Usually you get an external ISDN device to circumvent any driver problems as 
they are usually connected to a serial port of the computer. Why would I need 
special Debian support for brand a, brand b etc?


Backspace in xterm (again)

1998-09-06 Thread Joost Witteveen
Hi, here I am agian.

I upgraded my system yesterday (OK to slink, but it appears the same problem
is present in hamm), and now my bacspace generates an delete again.
(in an xterm that is. Emacs (X11) and VC are OK)

I already asked this question once, but I seem to have lost the responce
I got then. 

Does anybody know what I should do to get my beloved backspace back again
(yes, I want backspace to delete the char left to the curser, as it does
in the VC's).

Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Compiling Twin 3.1.0 on Debian 2.0

1998-09-06 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo,

I have compiled and used twin successfully on my older system (Debian
1.3.1) by just following the instructions coming with twin-src.tar.gz.

Now I have upgraded my system and the compilation failed.  

configure; make depends; make results in (the last part of the output):
--
gcc -Wall -fwritable-strings -fPIC  -I/home/jhspies/twin/3.1.0/include
-I/home/jhspies/twin/3.1.0/win -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include  -DDEBUG -DTRACE
-shared  -Wl,-Bsymbolic -L/home/jhspies/twin/3.1.0/win \
-L/home/jhspies/twin/3.1.0/win -o libmmsystem.so MultiMedia.o MMBin.o
MCI.o MMIF.o MultiMedia.res.o   -ltwin -ldll -lc
ld: cannot open -ltwin: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [libmmsystem.so] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jhspies/twin/3.1.0/mmsystem'
make: *** [all] Error 2
--
Checking at that stages revealed that there are no *.so files in the 
~/twin/3.1.0 tree.  Isn't the compilation process supposed to provide
libtwin.so?

I would appreciate some help.

Johann Spies.

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My system too often freezes

1998-09-06 Thread Eric Jacoboni
Hi,

I've a Cyrix P166+ with 96 EDO Ram on an Asus motherboard
PI55T2P4C and a Matrox Millenium MGA video card. My system runs under
Debian Hamm.

I often use Xemacs and Gnus (original deb packages) under X11
(3.3.2.3-1) and Wmaker (0.19 from slink).

Too often, the system freeze when under X11 and the _only_ solution is 
to press the reset button :-( No way to have a console.

I've read docs about set6x86 and i've removed it from rc.boot to be
sure the problem doesn't come from a bad configuration of it. In both
cases (with or without set6x86) the problem arises...

6x86_reg gives now :

=-=-=-=-=-=

6x86 (Classic/L/MX) Register Dump utility

6x86 DIR0: 0x31 2X core/bus clock ratio
 DIR1: 0x16 6x86 Rev. 2.6

Wait a moment...
Calculated BogoMIPS:130.00
Kernel BogoMIPS:106.09

6x86 CCR0: 0x2  NC1 set (address region 640Kb-1Mb non-cacheable)
 CCR1: 0x82 NO_LOCK reset
 CCR2: 0x80 SUSP_HLT reset (low power suspend mode disabled)
 CCR3: 0x10
 CCR4: 0x17 DTE cache enabled, no I/O recovery time
 CCR5: 0x21 slow LOOP disabled, allocate cache lines on write misses

6x86 Address Region Register dump:
  ARR0: address = 0xA , size = 128 KB
RCR = 0x9 : not cached, write gathering
  ARR1: address = 0xC , size = 256 KB
RCR = 0x1 : not cached
  ARR2: disabled
  ARR3: address = 0xA8000 , size = 32 KB
RCR = 0x9 : not cached, write gathering
  ARR4: disabled
  ARR5: disabled
  ARR6: address = 0x600 , size = 32 MB
RCR = 0x1 : not cached
  ARR7: address = 0x0 , size = 128 MB
RCR = 0xB : cached, weak write ordering, write gathering
=-=-=-=-=

I've read the doc about the Cyrix 'coma' bug and i've try to use
set6x86 to set the NO_LOCK bit : no change...

(BTW : the doc speaks about a little source code to detect this coma
bug but i've found nowhere...)

I've read the various log files : nothing... Is there a way to have a
trace of the crash  (a core dump or something like that ?).

Thanks for any advice...
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Segmentation faults

1998-09-06 Thread Johann Spies
I never had such a lot of segmentation faults before I have upgraded to
Debian 2.0.  I even had te push the reset-button after pine made the
computer hang and there was no response to the keyboard or the mouse.  The
past few weeks reminded me of the time I was using Windows 3.1 for a lot
of my work.

Can it be a hardware problem?

I got segmentation faults from efax, taper, lyx and pine.  Taper gives a
segmentation fault every time after it opened the info-file.  I
reinstalled it and rebuilt the info-file.  In both cases it had no effect
on the problem. 

Johann.

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debian 2.0 stable?

1998-09-06 Thread Pere Camps
Hi!

I've just read some postings complaining that their systems crash too
often with debian 2.0

Is debian 2.0 stable or should I stick with 1.3? The machine serves
e-mail and web services for about 300 people...

TIA!

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Re: debian 2.0 stable?

1998-09-06 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!

   I've just read some postings complaining that their systems crash too
often with debian 2.0

I think they have a library problem, or a ld.so problem. Don't know what
causes this though.

   Is debian 2.0 stable or should I stick with 1.3? The machine serves
e-mail and web services for about 300 people...

Remember, people only post when something *doesn't* work. Thousands
of people do have it running allright. All our servers at Cistron
Internet run at least Debian 2.0, a lot of them even the unstable
slink tree and with no problems at all.

I upgraded all machines while running, and half of them remotely
from 30 kilometers distance. Only Debian has such a smooth upgrade path.
I used autoup.sh for the upgrades from 1.3.1 to 2.0 on most machines.

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How to use different domain in Exim

1998-09-06 Thread Ken Chew

I have a problem with Exim that I am unable to solve.

My domain is foo.com and I want to send mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use the -f option to set the From: field. Everything seem ok but when I
receive the test mail the From: field is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have tried to change the qualify_domain and other option in the conf
file but nothing is working.

can someone enlighten me as to how this can be solve. Or it is not
possible at all.

TIA!



Re: ping: sendto: Operation not permitted

1998-09-06 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 Has anyone ever seen the Subject: line's message before?
 
 I just compiled 2.0.34 to get ip masqing going, and I appear in the process
 thereof to have trashed something really basic. Ecch! I get this whether I
 ping a local host, a remote host, or the machine itself.
 
 The system's ifconfig and routing tables look ok. It will dial up my ISP and
 get an IP assigned which duly appears in both those tables. But it then acts
 as if there's no DNS available, which there is, as I can verify by connecting
 with another machine to the same ISP.

 You have your ISP's dns adresses in /etc/resolv.conf on the masq box ?

-j



Re: Backspace in xterm (again)

1998-09-06 Thread aqy6633
 Does anybody know what I should do to get my beloved backspace back again
 (yes, I want backspace to delete the char left to the curser, as it does
 in the VC's).

Make sure the following is present in your /etc/X11/Xresources:

*Text.translations: #override ~Shift ~Meta KeyDelete: delete-next-character()
XTerm*termName: xterm-debian
*VT100*backarrowKey: false
*VT100.Translations: #override KeyBackSpace: string(\177)\n\
   KeyDelete: string(\033[3~)\n\
   KeyHome: string(\033OH)\n\
   KeyEnd: string(\033OF)

I don't like introducing xterm-debian terminfo entry myself and just renamed
it to xterm.

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Re: upgrade queries

1998-09-06 Thread Johann Spies

On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Jim McCloskey wrote:

 I'm currently running Debian 1.3. I have the 2.0 binary CD and also
 the CD_autoup.sh script written by Craig Sanders. I'm hesitating about
 the upgrade though and I was wondering if someone could take the time
 to answer two questions:
 
   1. What improvement in performance (or kinds of improvement) should
  I expect to notice?

 
   2. I have in /usr/local a number of non-debian programs that I use a
  lot and that I'm very attached to (xv, rv_player). What are the
  chances that they would be broken because of the library upgrade?
 

I have upgraded about two weeks ago and I lost a lot of time trying to
figure out new configurations and recompiling older /usr/local programs -
some of them unsuccesfully so far.  My system does not seem to be as
stable as it was under 1.3.1.  I had an unusually large amount of
segmentation faults by otherwise reliable programs and even had to use my
reset button a day or two ago.

There is no improved performance that I can observe.  However there are a
lot  variety in what is available to choose from as far as programs are
concerned.

Some of the programs that I used to run form /usr/local is now available
as up-to-date debian packages - like python 1.5.1 and postgresql 6.3.2.

Xv is not on the non-free disk and you would have to download it from the
non-free directories I suspect. 

Johann

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RE: mouse not working in X

1998-09-06 Thread D'jinnie
I do not recall who posted a problem with the mouse not working in X but
what fixed it for me is changing the options gpm runs as - it seems
instead of running 'gpm -t ps2' it now runs 'gpm -R -m ps2' (-R -m is
really an option for busmice and shouldn't be a default one anyway). 
So just change the init files and that might do it :)

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Re: DEBIAN 2.0 INSTALL BLOCK DEVICE NAME

1998-09-06 Thread LeRoy D. Cressy
I am a first time installer of Debian Linux 2.0 with Win 98 on the
computer.
 
What to I enter when on the installation program so I can get Emacs, X
etc. when installing from
the Binary i386 CD  I read:

Insert the CD Rom with the block device name:

I enter:

/dev/hda3, (have tried /dev/hda4  /dev/hda5 with similar results)

I get:

Wrong FS type bad option and super block ON /dev/hda3



I am using a Pentium 2, 300 MHz, 64 Mb ram, 6.4 Gb HD and an IDE CD-Rom
on
the secondary (primary) IDE port.

Again, What to I enter when on program installation I read:

Insert the CD Rom with the block device name:

--

Each physical drive gets its own device, for instance:

your first HD   /dev/hda
/dev/hda1 = first partition
/dev/hda2 = second partition

your second HD or CDROM /dev/hdb
if your second hd is a cdrom there is only one partition.  Thus
there is numberes following the drive.

I hope that this helps
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Re: Pine 4.02

1998-09-06 Thread D'jinnie
:   I have just gotten the latest (I think) version of pine and seemed to
:have compiled it OK (with '000's of warning messages ... what did I do
:wrong).. The matter is: I was under the impression that it automatically
:highlighted html text within an email so one could follow the link .. I
:have been unable to verify that ... Tell me, what else am I doing wrong?

You may have to go into setup-config and set that option - I do not think
it's set by default. You will also need to set your html viewer (it needs
an external one). Look in help for the syntax.

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Re: Backspace in xterm (again)

1998-09-06 Thread peloy
I think I had this same problem and solved it after someone in IRC
(#debian) told me to disable XKEYBOARD extension (but I am not sure
this was the problem, though).

Try disabling XKEYBOARD in XF86Config...

peloy.-

Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, here I am agian.
 
 I upgraded my system yesterday (OK to slink, but it appears the same problem
 is present in hamm), and now my bacspace generates an delete again.
 (in an xterm that is. Emacs (X11) and VC are OK)
 
 I already asked this question once, but I seem to have lost the responce
 I got then. 
 
 Does anybody know what I should do to get my beloved backspace back again
 (yes, I want backspace to delete the char left to the curser, as it does
 in the VC's).
 
 Thanks,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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non-root users + xdm

1998-09-06 Thread D'jinnie
I usually try to start up xdm when booting, and with new X I started
having a problem - xdm will not let non-root users login if they have a
.xsession file in their directory. In .xsession-errors I get
setegid(100): Operation not permitted (and other connect to .0:0 errors)
xdm and X are not suid root, could that be why? I'd really rather not
change it from default, but if that's the only way :(

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hostname lookup failure

1998-09-06 Thread Hank Fay
I have a Hamm box set up with a cable modem driver  for the SB-1000
(courtesy of Franco Venture, [EMAIL PROTECTED]), and so far am connecting
to the ISP just fine.  However, being networking challenged, I am getting
Host name lookup failure -- but of course it's a user setup failure
also. g

I have the nameserver in resolve.conf set to the IP of the ISP's nameserver.
I am not running a local DNS.

Any directions to start looking would very much appreciated -- so near yet
so... s

Hank



Re: upgrade queries

1998-09-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Jim McCloskey wrote:

 
 Forgive me for reintroducing a topic which has probably been done to
 death on the list in recent months, but I had to unsubscribe for most
 of the summer-months and haven't seem recent postings.
 
 I'm currently running Debian 1.3. I have the 2.0 binary CD and also
 the CD_autoup.sh script written by Craig Sanders. I'm hesitating about
 the upgrade though and I was wondering if someone could take the time
 to answer two questions:
 
   1. What improvement in performance (or kinds of improvement) should
  I expect to notice?

Many more packages.  

 
   2. I have in /usr/local a number of non-debian programs that I use a
  lot and that I'm very attached to (xv, rv_player). What are the
  chances that they would be broken because of the library upgrade?

Since the upgrade keeps libc5 on your system, there should be no problems.
I don't recall if the upgrade removes libc4 (a.out), but if you have any
binaries requiring libc4, you should probably replace them anyway. 

I've done upgrades using both autoup.sh and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' with
only minor problems.

Bob


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: debian 2.0 stable?

1998-09-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Pere Camps wrote:

 : Hi!
 : 
 :  I've just read some postings complaining that their systems crash too
 : often with debian 2.0
 : 
 :  Is debian 2.0 stable or should I stick with 1.3? The machine serves
 : e-mail and web services for about 300 people...

10+ systems here running 2.0, all serve multi-users, some get hit pretty
hard, and two of them take a regular beating.  I've had a problem with
qpopper and with a tulip card in one machine, but that was a PCI chipset
problem, I think.

No complaints!  I've upgraded via autoup.sh and apt ... I prefer apt
since it makes sure your system isn't hosed to begin with, which imo is
why some people are having these problems.

--
Nathan Norman
MidcoNet  410 South Phillips Avenue  Sioux Falls, SD
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.midco.net
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)



Re: upgrade queries

1998-09-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Johann Spies wrote:

[ snip ]

 : I have upgraded about two weeks ago and I lost a lot of time trying to
 : figure out new configurations and recompiling older /usr/local programs -
 : some of them unsuccesfully so far.  My system does not seem to be as
 : stable as it was under 1.3.1.  I had an unusually large amount of
 : segmentation faults by otherwise reliable programs and even had to use my
 : reset button a day or two ago.

Note that this is not the usual case.  Many people are running 2.0
flawlessly.  I'd recommend looking at apt, since it will complain if
your system isn't setup right in the first place.

 : There is no improved performance that I can observe.  However there are a
 : lot  variety in what is available to choose from as far as programs are
 : concerned.
 
Many packages provide better configuration scripts.  Security is
improved.  2.0 feels more like a system than 1.3 did.

I've got one 1.3 box left, and I don't see any reason to use it for new
installs.

--
Nathan Norman
MidcoNet  410 South Phillips Avenue  Sioux Falls, SD
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.midco.net
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)



Re: debian 2.0, keyboard conflict with PCMCIA

1998-09-06 Thread jesse
Here is some more info from syslog, it seems like everything is loaded fine,
and then one of these hits:

Sep  5 21:11:36 ankle kernel: 3c589_release(0x0027cce4) 

But it loads back up immediately after it finishes unloading.

And still, the machine goes for long periods of successful network activity
if I'm not typing on the console keyboard, these unload/load cycles only
occur when I type directly on the machine's own keyboard.

Eventually, it crashes.

Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle syslogd 1.3-3#26: restart.
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.4 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel:   kernel build: 2.0.34 #15 Mon Aug 31 21:05:40 
PDT 1998 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel:   options:  [pci] [apm] 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: cs.c 1.193 1998/07/18 09:55:19 (David Hinds) 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: i82365.c 1.195 1998/07/18 09:39:24 (David Hinds) 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: Intel PCIC probe:  
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel:   Cirrus PD6729 PCI at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00, 2 
sockets 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: host opts [0]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: host opts [1]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12 
status change on irq 11 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: cs: register_ss_entry(2, 0x0381e8d0) 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: ds.c $Revision: 1.85 $ $Date: 1998/07/14 09:23:49 
$ (David Hinds) 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle cardmgr[96]: starting, version is 3.0.4
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kerneld: started, pid=103, qid=0
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: ds_open(socket 0) 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: ds_open(socket 1) 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: ds_open(socket 2) 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle cardmgr[96]: watching 2 sockets
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: excluding 
0xcf8-0xcff 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 
0x220-0x22f 0x330-0x337 0x388-0x38f 0x4d0-0x4d7 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle cardmgr[96]: initializing socket 0
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d-0x0d: clean. 
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle cardmgr[96]: socket 0: 3Com 3c589 Ethernet
Sep  5 21:04:28 ankle cardmgr[96]: executing: 'insmod 
/lib/modules/2.0.34/pcmcia/3c589_cs.o'
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle kernel: 3c589_cs.c 1.107 1998/06/05 00:19:29 (David 
Hinds) 
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle kernel: ds: register_pccard_driver('3c589_cs') 
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle kernel: 3c589_attach() 
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle kernel: 3c589_config(0x0027cce4) 
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle kernel: loading device 'eth0'... 
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle kernel: eth0: 3Com 3c589, port 0x300, irq 3, Auto port, 
hw_addr 00:60:97:41:81:78 
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle cardmgr[96]: executing: './network start eth0'
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle apmd[118]: Version 2.4 (APM BIOS 1.1, Linux driver 1.2)
Sep  5 21:04:29 ankle apmd[118]: Battery: * * * (100% 0:01)
Sep  5 21:04:36 ankle kernel: eth0: autodetected 10baseT 
Sep  5 21:04:39 ankle innd: SERVER descriptors 256
Sep  5 21:04:39 ankle innd: SERVER outgoing 243
Sep  5 21:04:39 ankle innd: SERVER ccsetup control:11
Sep  5 21:04:39 ankle innd: SERVER lcsetup localconn:13
Sep  5 21:04:39 ankle innd: SERVER rcsetup remconn:4
Sep  5 21:04:40 ankle innd: overview spawned overview:16:proc:192
Sep  5 21:04:40 ankle innd: SERVER starting
Sep  5 21:04:43 ankle /usr/sbin/cron[206]: (CRON) STARTUP (fork ok) 
Sep  5 21:04:51 ankle in.smtpd[232]: connect from vortex.uplanet.com
Sep  5 21:11:36 ankle kernel: 3c589_release(0x0027cce4) 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle cardmgr[96]: shutting down socket 0
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle cardmgr[96]: executing: './network stop eth0'
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: 3c589_detach(0x0027cce4) 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: 3c589_release(0x0027cce4) 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle cardmgr[96]: executing: 'rmmod 3c589_cs'
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: 3c589_cs: unloading 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: ds: unregister_pccard_driver('3c589_cs') 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: 3c589_detach(0x0027cce4) 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle cardmgr[96]: initializing socket 0
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle cardmgr[96]: socket 0: 3Com 3c589 Ethernet
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle cardmgr[96]: executing: 'insmod 
/lib/modules/2.0.34/pcmcia/3c589_cs.o'
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: 3c589_cs.c 1.107 1998/06/05 00:19:29 (David 
Hinds) 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: ds: register_pccard_driver('3c589_cs') 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: 3c589_attach() 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: 3c589_config(0x0027cbe8) 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: loading device 'eth0'... 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle kernel: eth0: 3Com 3c589, port 0x300, irq 3, Auto port, 
hw_addr 00:60:97:41:81:78 
Sep  5 21:11:37 ankle cardmgr[96]: executing: './network start eth0'
Sep  5 21:11:41 ankle kernel: 3c589_release(0x0027cbe8) 
Sep  5 21:11:41 ankle cardmgr[96]: shutting down socket 0
Sep  5 21:11:41 ankle cardmgr[96]: executing: './network stop eth0'
Sep  5 21:11:42 ankle kernel: 3c589_detach(0x0027cbe8) 
Sep  5 21:11:42 

RE: ping: sendto: Operation not permitted

1998-09-06 Thread Hank Fay
This was the message I got when I had tried to put my local IP address in
the LOCAL_IP in my ppp config file.  When I fixed that by setting to 0.0.0.0
(it's dynamically assigned) all went well, to a point.  I can now Ping, but
get nothing back.

The PPP.log shows

date time sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x16 magic=.
date time rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x16 magic=something different than above

Bob, looks like we're almost in the same boat. s

Hank


HELP ?!?!?! (fwd)

1998-09-06 Thread treacy
The following message was sent to webmaster. Can someone help this
person. Maybe someone who lives near them can even give them a call.
Personally I find asking someone to send snail mail when getting free
support rather rude.

Please don't include me in any replies.

Jay Treacy

- Forwarded message from J Puglisi -

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun Sep  6 00:39:28 1998
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:56:55 -0700
From: J Puglisi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP ?!?!?!
X-UIDL: 8a0a9bca384c7dd1e15e4b45e7cafad8

I have been trying to ftp copies of the resc1440-fast to my A: drive
from my web browser.  The resc1440-fast appears to be 1.44 MB, which
should fit on a formatted floppy disk.  However, after the ftp is
complete, I get an error message saying that the floppy disk doesn't
have sufficient space, so nothing is written to the disk.  Whats the
story?

Unfortunately, I don't presently have e-mail, so please reply snail
mail.  Thanks for your help.

Bill Miller
3655  Piner  Road
Santa Rosa, CA  95401
voice: (707) 578-9463


- End of forwarded message from J Puglisi -


Re: Exim questions

1998-09-06 Thread Georg Bauer
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David
Warnock) wrote:

this behaviour so that instead all messages that are not to a valid
account get sent to a named account and do not get rejected.

You should look up the description of the smartuser director in the exim
documentation. That does exactly what you need.

bye, Georg

-- 
http://www.westfalen.de/hugo/



Installation of two-cd distributions with only one CD-ROM drive

1998-09-06 Thread Georg Bauer
Hi!

Is there a strategy for the above problem? Simply mounting the other
CD-ROM and just running apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work,
although the update fetches the distribution lists (after changing
/etc/apt/sources.list to include contrib and non-free, of course).

I know that I always can simply install by hand (actually that's what I
do), but shouldn't there be a way to use the delivered tools?

bye, Georg

-- 
http://www.westfalen.de/hugo/



Re: running root X programs

1998-09-06 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Another idea, the simplest one I could think of: in your startx script, add
 the line ``cat ~root/.Xauthority  ~/.Xauthority'' just after 
 ``serverargs=$serverargs -auth $HOME/.Xauthority''.  First startx as root 
 to 
 create the ~root/.Xauthority file and chgrp it so that only users in a group 
 who locally access the machine can read it.  Only problem is the file is 
 re-created whenever root uses startx, but I'd start X as the normal user 
 anyway.

Far more easy method:

1. install ssh (from section non-us/net)
2. do ssh -l root localhost in an xterm to become root
3. in this root shell, start any X program to test it

Ssh takes care of X11 forwarding automatically. This was done to make it
easy to run X programs on a remote host and have them use the local
display, but it goes equally well if you connect to the local host as
another user.

I admit ssh is overkill for this. But if you have enough memory, it is by
far the easiest method.

Remco


accessing Win95-hours50-to-load filesystems

1998-09-06 Thread spOOL
I have mounted my dos partition in Debian and can see all of the files but
can't use any of them.

I should be able to use Wordview to view Word docsright. Someone said
that I need to have fat/vfat compiled into the kernel.how do I do
this??

Also, what would be the X equivilant of a win95:
shortcut
folder
scandisk

I would like to customize X more but can't figure out exactly how. Is it
all done from the xterm that it opens when I start. BTW, where is the file
that I edit to change things such as my default window manager and
background color???

Thanks again


Re: accessing Win95-hours50-to-load filesystems

1998-09-06 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, spOOL wrote:
 I have mounted my dos partition in Debian and can see all of the files but
 can't use any of them.
 
 I should be able to use Wordview to view Word docsright. Someone said
 that I need to have fat/vfat compiled into the kernel.how do I do
 this??


I'll let someone else explain how to compile the kernel...
 
 Also, what would be the X equivilant of a win95:
 shortcut
 folder

There are no X equivalents of these. These functions belong to the
filesystem; X is simply a window/graphics system.

In the filesystem, the equivalent to these would be symlinks (shortcut)
and directories (folder). You can read about this in the Debian tutorial:
http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html

X provides no default interface to the filesystem, so you have to use the
shell from an xterm. However, there are X file managers which do provide
a filesystem interface. Examples of X file managers include TkDesk (in its
own package) and kfm (in the KDE packages). A non-X file manager is mc,
also in its own package.

 scandisk
 

fdisk does this, but it's run automatically when the computer starts. So
there's no reason to worry about doing it manually.

 I would like to customize X more but can't figure out exactly how. Is it
 all done from the xterm that it opens when I start.

Kind of depends on your window manager. WindowMaker (wmaker package)
provides some nice graphical configuration. Be sure to also install
wmaker-data to get pretty icons.

 BTW, where is the file
 that I edit to change things such as my default window manager and
 background color???
 

Check out the tutorial again, it has a section on changing your window
manager by editing the file ~/.xsession. To change the background color,
try the command 'xsetroot -solid blue' or whatever you like; put it in
your .xsession. WindowMaker also allows you to set the background from a
nice menu; if you do that you won't want to use xsetroot.

Havoc



Re: sound card

1998-09-06 Thread Xiaonan Ma


 OK, looking at your /dev/sndstat again, I see that you didn't configure
 any audio devices.  

Yes, I think this is the problem. But I have no idea what kind of audio
devices the on motherboard YAMAHA OPL 3-SAx chip belongs to. All the info
I have is that it's audio device for YAMAHA OPL 3-SAx ...

 I'm not familiar with your sound card, but if it's a
 Sound Blaster-compatible, you'll need to select Sound Blaster support
 or somesuch.  OPL3 is a MIDI-to-audio interface I believe.
 

I did try to configure it with Sound Blaster support. I put 5 for 
the sound blaster IRQ (Win95 shows the IRQ is 5), but I got the 
following error when issued insmod sound:
sb: Interrupt test on IRQ5 failed - device disabled

Thanks for your help.

regards
xiaonan


HELP: Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-06 Thread DMDP
I am reading this massive Walnut Creek Linux book backwards and forwards.  I
followed the ISP FAQ to the letter.

I got to the point where I can now send e-mail.  However, my address shows
up as Super-User, rather than my actual address.  If I was harassing people,
this would be great.

The other probelm I am having is that I cannot recieve mail.

I am using ELM and I have SMAIL and SENDMAIL installed.

I installed FETCHMAIL, but I cannot find any info on how to configure it.

Please help us Obi Wan, you're our only hope.

Denis


Re: ping: sendto: Operation not permitted

1998-09-06 Thread john
Hank Fay writes:
 This was the message I got when I had tried to put my local IP address in
 the LOCAL_IP in my ppp config file.  When I fixed that by setting to
 0.0.0.0 (it's dynamically assigned) all went well, to a point.

Why are you trying to set your local IP at all?  Why not use noipdefault?

 I can now Ping, but get nothing back.

Then you aren't pinging.  What do you have in /etc/resolv.conf?  Have you
given pppd the defaultroute option?  Do you have a default route on another
interface?

 date time sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x16 magic=.
 date time rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x16 magic=something different than
 above

Looks normal enough.  What does the rest look like?

Have you tried pppconfig?
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


Re: HELP: Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, DMDP wrote:

 I am reading this massive Walnut Creek Linux book backwards and forwards.  I
 followed the ISP FAQ to the letter.
 
 I got to the point where I can now send e-mail.  However, my address shows
 up as Super-User, rather than my actual address.  If I was harassing people,
 this would be great.
 
 The other probelm I am having is that I cannot recieve mail.
 
 I am using ELM and I have SMAIL and SENDMAIL installed.

You have BOTH smail and sendmail installed?  They conflict with each other
and cannot coexist.
  
 
 I installed FETCHMAIL, but I cannot find any info on how to configure it.

You need to create a ~/.fetchmailrc file.  This can be as simple as
something like:

poll pop.provider.net protocol pop3 username jsmith password secret1

'man fetchmail' for further information.

Bob


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DM42nh  http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


Re: Virtual Poohsticks

1998-09-06 Thread Thomas Adams
On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:17:04PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote:

   Does anyone know of any virtual poohsticks software, or is anyone
 working on some at the moment?

What is a virtual poohstick??


slink

1998-09-06 Thread Rick Knebel
Hi,

What is the difference between slink and unstable on the debian ftp site.

Thanks Alot

Rick

-- 
   
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 -


Re: using debian passwords in NT.

1998-09-06 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 18:15:15 +0200 Pere Camps writes:
 
 Hi!
   Simple question:
 
   Does anybody know of a way of making winNT use the usernames and the
 passwords of a debian machine?

The only way I know would be running Samba as PDC.  Go to the Samba
Homepage to read more about, you probably need to install a developers
version.

Torsten

BTW: Unfortunately, I can't tell you the URL, maybe someone else can
 help.


Make Uses c++ instead of g++?

1998-09-06 Thread Art Lemasters
I am trying to run make in slink.  It's using
c++ instead of g++.  I'm new to compiling on this
system.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Art


[lynnd@IHS.COM: CLUE: [Fwd: Fwd: [humorix] Indian Legends Predicted Linux Revolution]]

1998-09-06 Thread Art Lemasters
fwd,fyfun, from a leader of the Colorado Linux Users  Enthusiasts
forum...a little humor-rumor here.

Art

- Forwarded message from Lynn Danielson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Subject: Fwd: [humorix] Indian Legends Predicted Linux Revolution

From: James Baughn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [humorix] Indian Legends Predicted Linux Revolution


Indian Legends Predicted Linux Revolution

NAVAJO NATION, NM -- A Native Amercian archeological
convention held in northern New Mexico last week turned up
some startling revelations.  Evidence unearthed from
ancient Indians seems to indicate that they predicted
events in the modern computer industry.  One archeologist
explains, Rock paintings, oral legends, and word meanings
seem to foretell, in part, recent events.

Rock paintings found near the Four Corners region depict
scenes reminescent of today.  One painting shows a man
with disheveled hair clutching huge wads of green paper. 
The man is surrounded by hoards of sad people handing over
green sheafs of paper and staring into rectangular blue
things.  Another nearby rock painting shows a different
scene.  In it a huge animal -- what appears to be a penguin
- -- is charging after the man with disheveled hair and green
papers, one archeologist explained in a speech.

Ancient Indian words are also suggestive.  In the keynote
address, a prominent archeologist said, The ancient word
'whindowez' means 'white faced man staring into blue'. 
'Mikroshopf' refers to a 'powerful enemy who sweeps from
the North and conquers many'.  Finally, 'Lennuhks' means
'great liberator'. I'd be willing to bet money that the
Ancient Ones knew what was to come in regards to Microsoft,
Linux, and the Open Source Revolution.

One oral legend passed down through the generations matches
current events almost perfectly.  In it, a powerful enemy
sweeps in and conquers all tribes.  The enemy has
unbeatable weapons.  The conquered tribes slowly become
assimilated into the enemy's kingdom.  One wise man,
however, develops a weapon that is invincible to the
enemy.  The wise man openly shares the secret of the
weapon's construction to his fellow tribesman.  They are
able to destroy the enemy, which can't figure
out how to produce the new weapon.

The general consensus at the convention was that all known
evidence points to an understanding of events to come
thousands of years later.  We're not sure how the Ancient
Ones knew about computers.  We do know, however, that they
were exactly right.  Microsoft, the 'powerful enemy' from
the legend, is failing because it can't complete its new
weapon, Windows NT 5.0.  Everyone else, already has a
weapon, Linux, and they are kicking Microsoft's butt
with it!

- ---

James S. Baughn
http://i-want-a-website.com/about-linux




===END FORWARDED MESSAGE===

- End forwarded message -


Re: slink

1998-09-06 Thread Noel Yap
Rick Knebel wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 What is the difference between slink and unstable on the debian ftp site.

Currently, nothing; `slink' is the code name for the unstable
distribution, just as `hamm' is the code name for the stable
distribution.  When slink becomes ready for beta testing, it will become
`frozen', then when it's released it becomes stable and we'll need
another code name for unstable.

Noel


Mirror

1998-09-06 Thread Matt Kopishke
I have a question, not a problem.  At the bottom of my message is my config 
file (/etc/mirror/mirror.default) for mirror.  First off, I no it works, it d/l 
about 273 megs of packages, then died.  I am trying to set up a unofficial 
debian mirror, I pretty much I wasn¹t every i386 package (hamm, slink, 
non-free, contrib etc) but not any other platform.  From what I can tell, this 
config file *should* do that, but when I set it off, it got packages from the 
slink directory that were not i386 (I think it got from arm, to alpha be for it 
died), then be for getting any thing from hamm, it died (I don't think this was 
a configuration problem, but a connection problem) can any one verify that the 
setup up is correct?


Begin mirror.default

package=Debian
#
comment=Mirror of parts of ftp.debian.org/pub/debian
#
# specify remote host, directory and ls-lR file
site=ftp.debian.org
remote_dir=/pub/debian
ls_lR_file=ls-lR.gz
#
# specify the local directory
local_dir=/ftp/debian
#
# inform this user about results
mail_to=root
#
# Now the nifty perl regular expressions. The '(A|B|C)' construct
# describes alternatives A, B and C. As '.' is a meta character that
# matches any character, we have to escape with \ in pathnames.
# See man perlre for information on perl's regular expressions.
# Compress these files.
compress_patt=\.*(C|c)ontents(-i386)?
 compress_patt+|Packages(-Master)?|ls-lR|md5sums
compress_patt+|Maintainers|msdos-names
#
# Exclude these files or directories
# Here we exclude the released tree, all ms-dos symlinks, all source
# packages, the private tree (but see below) and the bug tree
exclude_patt=.*(-|_)m68k|ms-?dos(-i386)?/|source/|private/
exclude_patt+|debian-(bugs|lists)/
exclude_patt+|(binary|disks)-(alpha|sparc|m68k|powerpc)/
exclude_patt+|i-connect-fixes/|ALPHA-TEST/|/core$|(I|i)ncoming/
exclude_patt+|WebPages/|\.contents\.new|\.in\.|\.new-?|\.mirrorinfo
exclude_patt+|Packages(-Master)?-(alpha|powerpc|sparc)
#
# Also exclude these.
exclude_patt+|experimental/.*(\.(tar|diff)\.gz|\.dsc)$
exclude_patt+|experimental/.*_(m68k|sparc|alpha|powerpc)\.deb$
exclude_patt+|orphaned/.*(\.(tar|diff)\.gz|\.m68k\.deb|\.dsc)$
exclude_patt+|rex(-(fixed|updates))?/
exclude_patt+|bo/
exclude_patt+|bo-updates/.*(\.changes|((\.orig)?\.tar|diff)\.gz|\.dsc)
#
exclude_patt+|\.notar
#
# Uncomment the following lines to exclude BIG packages
# exclude_patt+|experimental/|disks-i386/
# exclude_patt+|xbooks_.*|picon.*|timidity.*|quake.*
# exclude_patt+|bible-kjv.*|abuse.*|scilab.*|networker.*
# exclude_patt+gnat_.*|xemacs.*|non-free/|contrib/
#
# Don't delete what is mirrored by the other mirror package below
# NB no / at end of directory names to save directories from deletion
# also save private/project directory (which contains Incoming)
#
delete_excl=(local|debian-non-US)(/|$)
#
# Do not delete if more than 20% of all files would vanish
max_delete_files=20%


#package=Debian-non-US
#I do not need non-US, so it is commented out.
#
#comment=Mirror of nonus.debian.org:/pub/debian-non-US/binary-i386
#
# site and directory
#
#site=nonus.debian.org
#remote_dir=/pub/debian-non-US/
#
# mirror it into /mirror/debian
#local_dir=/ftp/debian/debian-non-US/
#
# inform this user about results
#mail_to=root
#
#compress_patt=\.*Contents$
#compress_patt+|Packages(-Master)?$
#compress_patt+||ls-lR|contents|md5sums|Maintainers|msdos-names$
#
#exclude_patt=Incoming/|source/
#exclude_patt+|binary-(alpha|sparc|m68k|powerpc)/
#
#do_deletes=true

End

Thanks,

   -Matt-


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Re: Backspace in xterm (again)

1998-09-06 Thread Joost Witteveen
  Does anybody know what I should do to get my beloved backspace back again
  (yes, I want backspace to delete the char left to the curser, as it does
  in the VC's).
 
 Make sure the following is present in your /etc/X11/Xresources:

Thanks. But unfortunately, it _is_ already present!

 *Text.translations: #override ~Shift ~Meta KeyDelete: 
 delete-next-character()
 XTerm*termName: xterm-debian
 *VT100*backarrowKey: false
 *VT100.Translations: #override KeyBackSpace: string(\177)\n\
KeyDelete: string(\033[3~)\n\
  KeyHome: string(\033OH)\n\
  KeyEnd: string(\033OF)
 
 I don't like introducing xterm-debian terminfo entry myself and just renamed
 it to xterm.

And my $TERM variable already is set to xterm-debian.



ISDN problem ....

1998-09-06 Thread Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho
 Hi,

 I've been having some problems on my isdn connection. When i'm working
on net, sometimes
the connection just stop from send/receive packets and I need to hangup
and start again. :(

 My syslog file:

Aug 10 23:23:48 cavern kernel: pcbit: invalid frame length - TT=7364
Aug 10 23:23:48 cavern kernel: pcbit: layer 2 error

 What's the problem ?

 Thanks.

 Best regards,
   Nuno Carvalho


Re: Make Uses c++ instead of g++?

1998-09-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 02:01:25PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
 I am trying to run make in slink.  It's using
 c++ instead of g++.  I'm new to compiling on this
 system.  What am I doing wrong?

Nothing. c++ is a link to g++, they are the same. If you want to make g++
explicit, you have to write the rules for this (or use some other make
magic).

Marcus

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Re: Make Uses c++ instead of g++?

1998-09-06 Thread Art Lemasters
On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 11:23:06PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 02:01:25PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
  I am trying to run make in slink.  It's using
  c++ instead of g++.  I'm new to compiling on this
  system.  What am I doing wrong?
 
 Nothing. c++ is a link to g++, they are the same. If you want to make g++
 explicit, you have to write the rules for this (or use some other make
 magic).

 Thanks, Marcus.  Would it be appropriate for me to symlink
a c++ to g++? 

Art

 
 Marcus
 
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Re: Make Uses c++ instead of g++?

1998-09-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 03:38:19PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 11:23:06PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 02:01:25PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
   I am trying to run make in slink.  It's using
   c++ instead of g++.  I'm new to compiling on this
   system.  What am I doing wrong?
  
  Nothing. c++ is a link to g++, they are the same. If you want to make g++
  explicit, you have to write the rules for this (or use some other make
  magic).
 
  Thanks, Marcus.  Would it be appropriate for me to symlink
 a c++ to g++? 

Ahem. The link should already be there. Do you have g++ package installed?

Otherwise, make a link, but from /usr/local/bin, so you don't mess with
Debian packages.

Thank you,
Marcus


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networking + website

1998-09-06 Thread D'jinnie
I was going to search for any mentions of the SIOCADDRT error when trying
to set up routing (I recall seeing something, but stupidly deleted it),
and for some reason www.debian.org now takes me to a French page...much as
I like French, and though I do know it reasonably well, I would REALLY
prefer English :) help?

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get a prompt, type like hell.

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Re: Make Uses c++ instead of g++?

1998-09-06 Thread Art Lemasters
 Oops!  I need to reinstall g++.  Evidently, I was
mistaken and did not install it to this slink system.

...terrible sorry for the distraction, and thank you
for the replies!

Art
 

On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 11:34:17PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 03:38:19PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 11:23:06PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
   On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 02:01:25PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
I am trying to run make in slink.  It's using
c++ instead of g++.  I'm new to compiling on this
system.  What am I doing wrong?
   
   Nothing. c++ is a link to g++, they are the same. If you want to make g++
   explicit, you have to write the rules for this (or use some other make
   magic).
  
   Thanks, Marcus.  Would it be appropriate for me to symlink
  a c++ to g++? 
 
 Ahem. The link should already be there. Do you have g++ package installed?
 
 Otherwise, make a link, but from /usr/local/bin, so you don't mess with
 Debian packages.
 
 Thank you,
 Marcus
 
 
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g++ Is Fine. I Was Wrong

1998-09-06 Thread Art Lemasters
Thanks to Alan Su and Marcus Brinkman for correcting
me in regards to g++.  I did not have it installed on this
system (only had gcc installed).  What can I say, but that
I am a newbie.  ;-)

 g++ is downloading here now, and the status after
the download will be reported.

Art, who is in the corner wearing a dunce cap for now

Heh, heh,...



Re: Mirror

1998-09-06 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Matt Kopishke wrote:

 : I have a question, not a problem.  At the bottom of my message is my
 : config file (/etc/mirror/mirror.default) for mirror.  First off, I no it
 : works, it d/l about 273 megs of packages, then died.  I am trying to set
 : up a unofficial debian mirror, I pretty much I wasn¹t every i386 package
 : (hamm, slink, non-free, contrib etc) but not any other platform.  From
 : what I can tell, this config file *should* do that, but when I set it
 : off, it got packages from the slink directory that were not i386 (I think
 : it got from arm, to alpha be for it died), then be for getting any thing
 : from hamm, it died (I don't think this was a configuration problem, but a
 : connection problem) can any one verify that the setup up is correct?

Sorry, didn't check your config. But you may try 'mirror -n mirrorconffile'
to test it. It will list every file it will get from the remote server, but
doesn't actually get it.

 -Remco


RE: accessing Win95-hours50-to-load filesystems

1998-09-06 Thread Hank Fay
For recompiling the kernel, you need to have the kernel package and kernel
source installed, I think -- you can do this with dselect.

Then, take a look at the FAQMatic on the Debian web site under Installation,
to see how to build a new kernel.  The instructions there are clearer than
the others I've read.

Hank

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: accessing Win95-hours50-to-load filesystems


I have mounted my dos partition in Debian and can see all of the files but
can't use any of them.

I should be able to use Wordview to view Word docsright. Someone said
that I need to have fat/vfat compiled into the kernel.how do I do
this??

Also, what would be the X equivilant of a win95:
shortcut
folder
scandisk

I would like to customize X more but can't figure out exactly how. Is it
all done from the xterm that it opens when I start. BTW, where is the file
that I edit to change things such as my default window manager and
background color???

Thanks again


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Where to get libraries to make Communicator 4.06 work

1998-09-06 Thread Albert Hurd
I am using Debian 1.3.1 Linux, connected to the net via cable with an
ethernet card.

I just downloaded Communicator 4.06 and also 4.5, and am having the same
problems in both of them. They seem to work ok for a variable amount of
time (3 or 4 minutes), bringing up a few sites, bringing up Help
Contents, and allowing me to set preferences, then the trouble begins:

Unable to create a network socket connection on any site, including
Cool, etc. as well as other assorted problems


Once trouble starts, these manifestations continue until I exit and
restart. 

From release notes, I think problem might be due to libraries.  In the
following from release notes I have put in parentheses the libraries I
have (O.K. if not followed by paren)

Linux 2.0.x only: If you are experiencing random hangs while running
Communicator, you
   may be using an incompatible version of one of the system shared
libraries. For reference
   purposes, here is the list of shared libraries linked into
Communicator: 
  libXm.so.1.2 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.1.2.4  (only
applies to the dynamic binary) 
  libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0 
  libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6.0 
  libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6.0  (6.3)
  libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6.0 
  libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.9  (4.7)
  libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.1  (6.3)
  libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.1 
  libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1.7.14  (so.1)
  libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5.3.12 (so.5) 
  libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libg++.so.27.1.4 (2.1) 
  libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.27.1.4 (2.1) 
  libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5.0.6 (0.9)


If these are causing the problem, I would like to know where to get the
desired libraries, and how to install them.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Albert Hurd