Off-topic: (Humor) EL PAJARO DE LA SUERTE....
¡ Hola a todos ! Recibi esto y pense que a nadie le vendria mal algo de humor. PAJARO DE LA SUERTE LA PALOMA...ES EL PAJARO DE LA PAZ LA MUJERES LA PAZ DEL PAJARO EL SOLTERO..NO DEJA EL PAJARO EN PAZ LA SOLTERA..CONOCE EL PAJARO, PERO NO LA PAZ LA DIVORCIADA...PERDIO LA PAZ Y EL PAJARO LA CASADA...TIENE SEGURO EL PAJARO Y LA PAZ EL VIEJOTIENE EL PAJARO EN PAZ LA VIEJADEBERIA ESTAR EN PAZ PERO SIEMPRE ESTA PENSANDO EN EL PAJARO EL MARICON..QUIERE LA PAZ POR DELANTE Y EL PAJARO POR DETRAS NOTA: ENVIE 3 COPIAS A SUS AMIGOS, EN CASO DE NO HACERLO SE LE MORIRA EL PAJARO Y NUNCA TENDRA PAZ *** * __* *__ __ _/ |_ * * (_ _ \|__|/\_ /\_ _\___/\_ Debian 2.0 hamm * * \ \\ \ / ___/\__ \/ ___/| / __ \_ __ \ 2.0.34 i586 * *_/ /_) ) \ \ / __ \ \| \ ___/| | \/ Mutt 0.91.2 * * / __/__/ _( )_)__|\ \__| * * \/ \/ \/ \/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ***
Arranque desde disco duro
Hola :-) Hace más o menos un mes instalé la Hamm. Apenas la uso para aprender, no para trabajar con ella. Está muy bonita, pero... siempre tengo que arrancar desde diskette y resulta un poco lento. Mentira, resulta DESESPERANTE. El Linux lo tengo instalado en la segunda partición del segundo disco duro (el esclavo). Recuerdo que hace uno o dos años instalá una Slackware y me dejaba instalar no sé que historia en el master boot record del primer disco, y de ahí pasaba al Lilo... creo. Me gustaría hacer esto mismo ahora, pero con la Hamm. Ya sé que podría buscar algún Boot Manager, pero ya que tengo el Linux, ¿para qué ir a buscar cosas fuera?. Otra cosa más. Igual que me gustaría saber como se instala esa historia, me gustaría saber como se desinstala, porque tarde o temprano tendré que quitar el linux para hacer espacio, guardar cosas y luego reinstalarlo en algún disco nuevo. Ya sé que el linux es Bueno-Bonito-Barato, pero en la universidad estamos con el NT, así que trabajo con eso. Y ciertamente doy fé de que NT... bueno, creo que todos ya saben como es ;-) Un saludo. Oscar González. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problema con CDROM PIONEER
Hola: Soy un novato en esto de Linux tengo un problema para instalar la versión 2.0 de Debian (la HAMM) que han regalado en Linux Actual. Es el eterno problema que tengo con todas las distribuciones de linux. Resulta que mi unidad de CDROM es un PIONEER DR A-24x 104 y al parecer no es exactamente ATAPI. En teoría sí lo es, pero linux tiene problemas con él. No me ha sucedido nada parecido con ningún otro sistema operativo (y he probado WNT 4.0 workstation,W98, W95 y dos). Sólo me da problemas con cualquier distribución de linux (he conseguido hacer funcionar la Red Hat 5.0, por supuesto no funcionaba el cdrom). El fallo siempre es el mismo, al intentar montar el CD. Por ejemplo en la instalación de Debian 2.0 todo va bien hasta que en DSELECT escojo el medio desde el que voy a instalar, el cdrom. Me pide el BLOCK DEVICE, le doy /dev/hdc (tengo dos discos duros y el cdrom está solo y de maestro en el segundo canal IDE) y me empieza a dar mensajes de error. Los mismos que si intento montarlo antes de ejecutar dselect. Por ejemplo con este comando: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /cdrom (me aseguré de que el directorio /cdrom existe, al menos un ls / devuelve cdrom entre los directorios) Los mensajes que devuelve son: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51 hdc: irq timeout: error=0x60 hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 hdc: ATAPI reset complete hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 hdc: ATAPI reset complete hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00, sector 0 hdc: irq timeout: status=0x50 Y sigue así, sacando poco a poco lineas como estas. Yo me imaginé que en la nueva versión del núcleo habrían arreglado este problema, pero no parecen haberlo hecho. (supongo que Debian 2.0 trae el último núcleo ¿no?). De todos modos he mirado en la página de Debian por si encontraba alguna solución a esto y no lo logré. No dice nada. y el CDROM no se encuentra entre los problemáticos. Mi pregunta es: ¡Socorro! ¿Puede alguien ayudarme? ¿sabeis quién podría hacerlo? ¿La última versión del Kernel arregla esto? ¿A quién debería avisar para que el problema se conociese y alguien lo arreglara? ¿sabeis si compilando el núcleo, rezando o de alguna manera aunque sea complicada y rebuscada puedo leer mis cds en linux? ¿O es que solo me queda comprarme otra unidad de CD y tirar esta? ;( Muchas gracias (anticipadas) por vuestra ayuda. PD: Linux me reconoce perfectamente el CDROM al arrancar. pone ATAPI cdrom Pioneer DR-A24x 0104. Además mi ordenador es un pentium 133, con 64 MB de RAM, placa VX, Con arranque desde CD (eso sí funciona), Tengo dos discos duros en el canal IDE primario, el CD en el canal secundario, Y no tengo ni tuve nuca conflictos de hardware en ningún SO excepto este problema. Tengo una tarjeta de red realtek 8029 (ethernet, claro). Y creo que no se me olvida nada. Bueno, tengo instalados W NT workstation 4.0, w98 y Debian (a medias).
make-kpkg
Hola a la lista. Estoy tratando de hacer una imagen del kernel, usando la caracteristica FLAVOUR y en un momento determinado del proceso, termina con error, diciendo que hay un conflicto entre kernel-image-version-flavour y kernel-source-version. He probado con el parche que se incluye en kernel-package y con la opcion --flavour, con identicos resultados. Alguien sabe porque pasa esto. Saludos.
gnome
Hola a la lista. Pues yo tenia el gnome instalado, y ahora tengo el gnome funciona, por algun paquete que cambie y resulta en alguna incompatibilidad, debio ser gtk+, porque decia algo de ligtk*.so no encontrada. Supongo que el gnome y paquetes necesario, que viene en hamm, seran correctos. Lo que me gustaria saber es que paquetes y versiones, se pueden usar con seguridad, por ejemplo, gimp no compila con gtk1.0, y no lo he averiguado hasta que no he intentado hacerlo. ¿Donde podria encontrar documentación de esto? Saludos.
Re: S.O.S. Carpathia: abuso de root
Gabriel B. wrote: Hola. Cuando entro en cualquiera de las cuentas que he creado me sale el mensaje: bash: mesg: command not found. Y si intento startx: bash: startx: command not found. en el bash_profile está el path bien. Como me he estado instalando todo, he hecho un uso abusivo de root y debo de haber hecho algo que no debía. ¿Te pasa también como root? Si no es así es que el .bash_profile que tienes en /etc/skel (es el que se copia en el home de cada usuario al crearlo) no tiene PATH a los direcotios de binarios. Si la variable PATH está bien (lo verás con echo $PATH), comprueba los permisos de los directorios de binarios. Deben ser rx para grupo y otros, y rwx para el propietario, que en este caso debe ser root. Si no te salen al hacer echo $PATH ya sabes dónde mirar. Ayudadmerl. Un saludrl... -- This message has been written in 100% recycled paper Powered by Linux Debian 2.0 with kernel 2.0.35 Running on CASIO fx-6300G Scientific calculator. Registered User/Machine: 92691/34454
RE: Arranque desde disco duro
Oscar González wrote: Hola :-) Hace más o menos un mes instalé la Hamm. Apenas la uso para aprender, no para trabajar con ella. Está muy bonita, pero... siempre tengo que arrancar desde diskette y resulta un poco lento. Mentira, resulta DESESPERANTE. El Linux lo tengo instalado en la segunda partición del segundo disco duro (el esclavo). Recuerdo que hace uno o dos años instalá una Slackware y me dejaba instalar no sé que historia en el master boot record del primer disco, y de ahí pasaba al Lilo... creo. Me gustaría hacer esto mismo ahora, pero con la Hamm. Ya sé que podría buscar algún Boot Manager, pero ya que tengo el Linux, ¿para qué ir a buscar cosas fuera?. Otra cosa más. Igual que me gustaría saber como se instala esa historia, me gustaría saber como se desinstala, porque tarde o temprano tendré que quitar el linux para hacer espacio, guardar cosas y luego reinstalarlo en algún disco nuevo. Ya sé que el linux es Bueno-Bonito-Barato, pero en la universidad estamos con el NT, así que trabajo con eso. Y ciertamente doy fé de que NT... bueno, creo que todos ya saben todos como es ;-) Si te sirve de algo, yo en vez de lilo, tengo chos (un gestor de arranque muy fácil de configurar que te presenta un menú de arranque) y me va muy bien. De vez en cuando he de reestablecer la MBR antigua creada por Windows 95. Para hacer esto, antes de instalar chos, hice una copia de seguridad de la MBR del disco de Windows 95 a un fichero seguro del disco duro de Linux con: dd if=/dev/hda of=/usr/local/hd/MBRWin95 bs=512 count=1 Cuando ejecuto chos, este me modifica la MBR del disco duro de arranque. Para restablecer la MBR que tenía de Win95 cuando me hace falta hago: dd if=/usr/local/hd/MBRWin95 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 ¡Y ya está!. A mi me va bien así, y además siempre mantengo una copia de seguridad del MBR de Win95, cosa buena de hacer pues con Win95 ya se sabe ;-) El paquete deb correspondiente al chos está en: stable/non-free/binary-i386/admin/chos_0.81-2.deb Suerte. --- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problemas con rpm
Hola, Este es mi primer mensaje a la lista, aunque llevo ya un tiempo siguiendola atentamente. Soy un novato en esto de linux, asi que os pido un poco de paciencia, porque seguramente mis preguntas os pareceran muy ingenuas :-) El asunto es que tengo varios Cd's de la PC Actual, y en uno de ellos viene la versión 1.0 del KDE. El problema es que viene en formato rpm. Pues bien, para poder instalarlo con cualquier distribución tambien te traen rpm [nosequeversión] en formato tar.gz. Bueno, yo instale ese fichero tar.gz como root. Y ahi empezarón los problemas: 1.- Al intentar ejecutar man me sale el siguiente mensaje: man: error in loading shared libraries libdb2.so.2:cannot open shared object. fil:Permission denied El fichero libdb2.so.2 es un link a otro libdb. El primero tiene todo los permisos puestos, pero el segundo solo tiene permiso de lectura y escritura, y no de ejecución. Puede estar por ahi el problema?? 2.- Al ejecutar rpm -i kdebase.rpm no se instala porque me dice que le faltan varios ficheros, ficheros que he comprobado que si estan (p.e. sh) y en la localización en que me indica. ¿que puedo hacer? Mas cosas. He intentado instalar tambien para probarlo el gnome que trae el 28 de CDActual, y que esta vez si viene en formato rpm y en deb (Bien!!). Pero no puedo instalarlo porque me falta la librería gtk1.1 (Todas los problemas de dependencias acaban apuntando ahi). El asunto es que en mi distribución de Debian, la 2.0, solo he encontrado un gtk1.0.x y ahi en los paquetes dev uno que es qtk1.1, que debe ser source... ese vale?? (ademas, pone que es inestable) He instalado The Gimp para verlo, y por si incluia esa librería, pero no me ha servido. El caso es que probandolo me he dado cuenta que no es capaz de abrir archivos .gif. Los jpg, por ejemplo, los abre perfectamente, pero los gif me da error. Es normal?? Bueno, siento haberme extendido tanto, pero es que como veis me han surgido muchas preguntas y bastante problemas con el uso de linux, pero he de decir una cosa: A pesar de todos estos problemas y dudas, desde que he instalado linux, todas mis horas muertas (y algunas otras) son para el. ;-D Gracias. P.D.: Solo quería dar mi opinión sobre dselect. A mi me parece un buen programa, y solo le hecho en falta dos cosas: Estructura arborescente: Poder tratarlo como un arbol de directorios, extendiendo el grupo de paquete que me interese, y el resto no, con lo que sería más comodo. Instalación selectiva: Quiero decir, que no se recorra toda la lista de paquetes cada vez que quiero instalar algo y que vaya directamente a lo que he seleccionado. -- Roberto Ruisanchez Mazo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://welcome.to/ruisan-world
NOVATO perdido
Hola a todos: Pido disculpas porque voy a preguntar cosas que no son especificas de la distribución (o eso creo). Pero como estoy en casa... me he iniciado en este mundo de linux con Debian, espero vuestra indulgencia. Mi problema fundamental es que no se como acceder a la información que hace falta para seguir avanzando. He instalado Debian 2.0 LA seleccionando la opcion Home y en dselect he elegido todo lo que oliera a material de documentación en castellano. He conseguido hacer funcionar LILO, os escribo desde pmail win :-) Se que toda la documentación que me hace falta debe estar instalada. Pero no se qué programa usar para leerla. Se que os puede parecer tonto pero es así. SOY NOVATO DE VERDAD MIS PREGUNTAS: ¿Qué proceso le recomendariais un amigo si no tiene ni idea de Linux para que comience aprender utilizando Debian? Me parece lógica la necesidad de invertir mucho tiempo leyendo y consultando documentación y estoy decidido a ello. Pero necesito una muleta. para poder leer y estudiar la documentación. Me podeis decir... que empiece con una distribución más amigable. Pero he elegido Debian por su filosofia de trabajo cooperativo y por que creo en el soft libre con copyleft. Y estoy dispuesto a pagar el peaje que en esfuerzo personal me va a suponer. ?En algún sitio hay una especie de guía de lectura? Supongo que en /usr/doc esta todo lo que me hace falta. He usado vi para editar lilo.conf pero necesito algún programa más flexible. Uno que me sirva para empezar, algo sencillo pero más versatil que vi. ?Que programa uso.. joe (digo joe porque he leido alguna referencia a él en la lista)? Abruma esto de tener tantas opciones... y ninguna experiencia :-/ ¿Qué método de consulta de información utilizais? Estoy empezando, osea nada de web, ni x (que no he conseguido configurar :-), todavía) en modo consola. ?me puede alguien describir como lo hace? Sé que existen infinitas posibilidades y ahí está el problema ?CUAL uso para empezar? ?Las consultas de man se pueden hacer de otra forma que permita navegar y hacer busquedas en el texto? (creo que esta pregunta es una burrada, pero refleja lo perdido que ando) ¿Cual es la documentación especifica de Debian y donde esta? Se que mis preguntas son demasiado generales y por ello difíciles de responder. Puede que exista algún texto que responda a mis necesidades. No sé algo como manual para aprender a aprender Debian GNU/Linux. ?conoceis alguno? ?donde lo consigo? ?en mi disco duro :)? Un saludo =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Un aprendiz NOVATO de Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=
Re: NOVATO perdido
El Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 02:20:50PM +0100, Zuzen de la Cueva dijo: Hola a todos: Mi problema fundamental es que no se como acceder a la información que hace falta para seguir avanzando. He instalado Debian 2.0 LA seleccionando la opcion Home y en dselect he elegido todo lo que oliera a material de documentación en castellano. Instala el mc (Midnight Commander) si no lo tienes instalado. Ademas de un muy buen gestor de ficheros, incluye lector de ficheros (F3) que te permite leer la documentación en varios formatos, los comprimidos incluso. En F4 tienes un ¡editor! mucho más amigable, al menos para los que empiezan, que te permitirá editar tus ficheros de configuración etc... Espero que esto te simplifique las cosas
Re: Arranque desde disco duro
Oscar González el día Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 09:26:14PM + expuso lo siguiente: Hola :-) Hace más o menos un mes instalé la Hamm. Apenas la uso para aprender, no para trabajar con ella. Está muy bonita, pero... siempre tengo que arrancar desde diskette y resulta un poco lento. Mentira, resulta DESESPERANTE. El Linux lo tengo instalado en la segunda partición del segundo disco duro (el esclavo). Recuerdo que hace uno o dos años instalá una Slackware y me dejaba instalar no sé que historia en el master boot record del primer disco, y de ahí pasaba al Lilo... creo. Me gustaría hacer esto mismo ahora, pero con la Hamm. Ya sé que podría buscar algún Boot Manager, pero ya que tengo el Linux, ¿para qué ir a buscar cosas fuera?. Otra cosa más. Igual que me gustaría saber como se instala esa historia, me gustaría saber como se desinstala, porque tarde o temprano tendré que quitar el linux para hacer espacio, guardar cosas y luego reinstalarlo en algún disco nuevo. Ya sé que el linux es Bueno-Bonito-Barato, pero en la universidad estamos con el NT, así que trabajo con eso. Y ciertamente doy fé de que NT... bueno, creo que todos ya saben como es ;-) Puedes hacer esto: - O instalas el lilo en un disquete, con lo que para entrar en Linux, no tendrás más que introducirlo, y cuando haya cargado, lo podrás sacar (va bastante rapidito). - O instalas el lilo en el MBR del primer disco duro. Te irá igual de bien que el anterior, pero si pierdes, por la razón que sea, el MBR (se corrompa, el windows te lo sobreescriba, o lo que sea), tendrás que utilizar el disco rescue de tu distribución. -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
Re: NOVATO perdido
Hola : Hola a todos: Pido disculpas porque voy a preguntar cosas que no son especificas de la distribución (o eso creo). Pero como estoy en casa... me he iniciado en este mundo de linux con Debian, espero vuestra indulgencia. Mi problema fundamental es que no se como acceder a la información que hace falta para seguir avanzando. He instalado Debian 2.0 LA seleccionando la opcion Home y en dselect he elegido todo lo que oliera a material de documentación en castellano. Supongo que te refieres a conocer los comandos, saber que y como se hacen las cosas en linux? Si fuese hace entonces continua leendo este mail. He conseguido hacer funcionar LILO, os escribo desde pmail win :-) Se que toda la documentación que me hace falta debe estar instalada. Pero no se qué programa usar para leerla. Se que os puede parecer tonto pero es así. SOY NOVATO DE VERDAD MIS PREGUNTAS: ¿Qué proceso le recomendariais un amigo si no tiene ni idea de Linux para que comience aprender utilizando Debian? Me parece lógica la necesidad de invertir mucho tiempo leyendo y consultando documentación y estoy decidido a ello. Pero necesito una muleta. para poder leer y estudiar la documentación. Lo que recomiendo a todos es tener un poco de paciencia, como mencionado por muchos la curva de aprendizaje inicial del linux es mas dificil, despues las cosas se hacen mas fáciles. Realmente hay que leer bastante. En este punto te recomiendo leer los HOWTO (/usr/doc/HOWTO), si instalaste la documencion en español, ella se ubica en el directorio /usr/doc/HOWTO/spanish. Estos archivos cubren aspectos especificos y si eres principiante en Unix/Linux puede servirte para solucionar problemas. Si eres principiante en Unix y/o Linux te recomiendo leer el libro : Guía del Usuario de Linux (GLUP). Que puedes obtenerlo en : http://lucas.ctv.es/ Me podeis decir... que empiece con una distribución más amigable. Pero he elegido Debian por su filosofia de trabajo cooperativo y por que creo en el soft libre con copyleft. Y estoy dispuesto a pagar el peaje que en esfuerzo personal me va a suponer. ?En algún sitio hay una especie de guía de lectura? Supongo que en /usr/doc esta todo lo que me hace falta. consulta mejor en : www.debian.org He usado vi para editar lilo.conf pero necesito algún programa más flexible. Uno que me sirva para empezar, algo sencillo pero más versatil que vi. Use el XEmacs (Emacs) es lo mejor para edicion de textos (cualquier texto). vi es poderoso posr ser pequeño (carga rápido) y relativamente potente. ?Que programa uso.. joe (digo joe porque he leido alguna referencia a él en la lista)? Abruma esto de tener tantas opciones... y ninguna experiencia :-/ ¿Qué método de consulta de información utilizais? Estoy empezando, osea nada de web, ni x (que no he conseguido configurar :-), todavía) en modo consola. ¿Para leer los archivos? less nombre_del_archivo y, si fuese comprimido con el gzip (extención .gz) zless nombre_del_archivo.gz ?me puede alguien describir como lo hace? Sé que existen infinitas posibilidades y ahí está el problema ?CUAL uso para empezar? ?Las consultas de man se pueden hacer de otra forma que permita navegar y hacer busquedas en el texto? (creo que esta pregunta es una burrada, pero refleja lo perdido que ando) Para buscar una palabra en los manuales usa : man -k palabra Cuando estes viendo la página de ayuda digita /, digita la palabra que buscas y luego ENTER. Recuerda que la busca es sensible a las mayusculas y minusculas, osea palabra y Palabra no son iguales. Si quieres buscar ambas después del / digita [Pp]alabra. ¿Cual es la documentación especifica de Debian y donde esta? En mucho lugares arriba menciono solamente parte de ellos. Se que mis preguntas son demasiado generales y por ello difíciles de responder. Puede que exista algún texto que responda a mis necesidades. No sé algo como manual para aprender a aprender Debian GNU/Linux. el GLUP y similares es bueno. ?conoceis alguno? ?donde lo consigo? ?en mi disco duro :)? Tambien existen en sunsite el directorio, creo, es : /pub/Linux/doc/LDP Un saludo =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Un aprendiz NOVATO de Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Espero haberte servido de algo. Hernán. Hernán J Cervantes Rodríguez Instituto de Física da
Re: NOVATO perdido
Zuzen de la Cueva wrote: Hola a todos: Pido disculpas porque voy a preguntar cosas que no son especificas de la distribución (o eso creo). Pero como estoy en casa... me he iniciado en este mundo de linux con Debian, espero vuestra indulgencia. La tienes de antemano :') Mi problema fundamental es que no se como acceder a la información que hace falta para seguir avanzando. He instalado Debian 2.0 LA seleccionando la opcion Home y en dselect he elegido todo lo que oliera a material de documentación en castellano. Hay mucha documentacion, muchisima... He conseguido hacer funcionar LILO, os escribo desde pmail win :-) Se que toda la documentación que me hace falta debe estar instalada. Pero no se qué programa usar para leerla. Se que os puede parecer tonto pero es así. SOY NOVATO DE VERDAD MIS PREGUNTAS: ¿Qué proceso le recomendariais un amigo si no tiene ni idea de Linux para que comience aprender utilizando Debian? Me parece lógica la necesidad de invertir mucho tiempo leyendo y consultando documentación y estoy decidido a ello. Pero necesito una muleta. para poder leer y estudiar la documentación. Antes que nada, recomendaria los manuales que tienes traducidos en LUCAS. Son super 'didacticos' y casi, casi, indispensables para empezar. La direccion de LUCAS es http://lucas.ctv.es Esto es por hablar de documentacion en cristiano. En ingles tienes documentacion por toneladas... Me podeis decir... que empiece con una distribución más amigable. Pero he elegido Debian por su filosofia de trabajo cooperativo y por que creo en el soft libre con copyleft. Y estoy dispuesto a pagar el peaje que en esfuerzo personal me va a suponer. Aprender es invertir tu tiempo y creo que es la mejor inversion que existe... ?En algún sitio hay una especie de guía de lectura? Supongo que en /usr/doc esta todo lo que me hace falta. Cierto. Especialmente en los directorios: * /usr/doc/FAQ * /usr/doc/HOWTO * /usr/doc/HTML * /usr/doc/LANG * /usr/doc/X Si entras por '/usr/doc/LANG' llegaras directamente a la documentacion en Español, pero te recomiendo que empieces por la FAQ... He usado vi para editar lilo.conf pero necesito algún programa más flexible. Uno que me sirva para empezar, algo sencillo pero más versatil que vi. Cuando lleves mas tiempo te daras cuenta de lo simpatica que resulta tu pregunta. ;) Personalmente suelo utilizar el 'joe', en modo terminal y el gxedit en modo grafico, pero es una cuestion de gustos personales. Si eres veterano, te dire que el 'joe' es un clonico del 'WordStar', un procesador de textos de la era MsDos... ?Que programa uso.. joe (digo joe porque he leido alguna referencia a él en la lista)? Abruma esto de tener tantas opciones... y ninguna experiencia :-/ ... por esto mismo lo decia, por la cantidad de opciones disponibles. Si me permites el consejo, vete probando hasta que te sientas comodo con alguno de ellos. Cuando lo encuentres, entonces estudialo a fondo para sacarle todo el jugo. Veras la eficacia de estos procesadores enseguida... ¿Qué método de consulta de información utilizais? Estoy empezando, osea nada de web, ni x (que no he conseguido configurar :-), todavía) en modo consola. Las X's son bonitas, agradables, etc, pero NUNCA imprescindibles. Desde 'la consola' podras hacer todo eso y mas. Te enumero algunas opciones: Gestor de ficheros: 'mc' (Clonico del Comandante Norton) (casi imprescindible para empezar) Navegador Web: 'lynx' Rapido. Podras ver toda la documentacion en html con este navegador. Para que funcione adecuadamente, te hace falta instalarte el 'apache', que es un servidor Web. Correo Electronico: Uno agradable es el Mutt. Otros, elm, mail, pine, etc... Noticias: tienes varios, entre ellos el 'trn' o el 'tin'. Editores: joe, jed, vi, vim, emacs, etc, etc... (pregunta si quieres mas o mirate la distribucion con el dselect. ?me puede alguien describir como lo hace? Tiempo al tiempo. Cuando tengas dudas puntuales, pregunta en las listas. Sé que existen infinitas posibilidades y ahí está el problema ?CUAL uso para empezar? ... ?Las consultas de man se pueden hacer de otra forma que permita navegar y hacer busquedas en el texto? (creo que esta pregunta es una burrada, pero refleja lo perdido que ando) En absoluto. Busca un programa que se llama 'man2html' con el dselect e instalalo. Luego, utilizando el 'lynx' podras tener todos los man en formato html. Podras leerlos con toda comodidad. ¿Cual es la documentación especifica de Debian y donde esta? Podias empezar por '/usr/doc/doc-base', por ejemplo... Se que mis preguntas son demasiado generales y por ello difíciles de responder. Puede que exista algún texto que responda a mis necesidades. No sé algo como manual para aprender a aprender Debian GNU/Linux. ?conoceis alguno? ?donde lo consigo? ?en mi disco duro
Re: ¡A limpiar el disco duro!
Yo me hice un programita para esto vamos a ver...
aqui va...
Siento no incluirlo como attachment pero es que me es más facil ahora mismo
cortar y pegar (estoy leyendo el correo de otra máquina desde casa).
Básicamente lo que hace es coger la base de datos de paquetes y sacar cada
uno con lo que ocupa, el comentario del final indica como se puede ordenar.
Se puede hacer también usando 'dpkg' pero en mis pruebas resultó demasiado
lento (primero hay que sacar una lista de todos los paquetes, como indica el
comentario en la tercera línea y luego ir preguntando a dpkg paquete por
paquete)
Este script demuestra una de las ventajas de que la base de datos
sea legible.
Javi
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#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# 'calcula-size', publicado bajo la licencia GNU
# Autor: Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Se puede crear la lista de paquetes se con:
# pkg -l \*\ |grep ^ii | cut -f 3 --delimiter= paquetes;
# Pero lo que vamos a hacer sera coger DPKG_AVAILABLE y leerlo
# entero para ver los paquetes que hay y su tamaño, luego
$DPKG_AVAILABLE='/var/lib/dpkg/status';
open (DPKG,$DPKG_AVAILABLE);
while (DPKG)
{
# print ;
if ( /^Package:(.*)$/ )
{ $pack_name=$1; }
if ( /^Installed-Size:(.*)$/ )
{ $pack_size=$1;
$packs{$pack_name}=$pack_size;}
}
foreach $pack_name (keys %packs)
{ print $packs{$pack_name}\t$pack_name\n;}
close DPKG;
# La salida del programa se puede ver ordenada con:
# ort -nr -k 1 |less;
exit 0;
---
On Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 10:51:00AM +, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote:
Hola a todos, me dispongo a limpiar un poco el disco duro de paquetes
instalados que no use. Al igual que dpkg -l me permite ver la lista de
lo que tengo instalado, ¿existe alguna opción para ver lo que me ocupa en
disco cada uno?.
Gracias.
Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
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Manual SGML
Hola, perdón por el tema fuera de contexto (si hay un foro más adecuado, agradecezco la indicación), pero estoy interesado en aprender SGML y me gustaría saber si hay algún manual disponible en la Red además de A GENTLE INTRODUCTION TO SGML de TEI y a ser posible algo más extenso. Me he instalado las sgml-tools y psgml de emacs, ¿es suficiente para empezar? ¿Hay mejores opciones para un novato? Gracias y... -- Un saludo Raúl Hernández mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
VGA16 con una DIAMMOND, porque ???
Tengo una pentium 133 con una tarjeta diammond Stealth 3d 2000 4 Mb !!! :_) Me ha trabajado bien en otra distribuciones sin problemas pero tengo problemas con esa tarjeta en el debian 2.0 hamm en el XF86Setup seleciono la Diammond y la S3v como serve termino la instalacion al escribir xinit --bpp 16 veo que al matar el xinit me dice VGA16 como server usado alguien sabe que esta pasando ?? _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: new SLINK build question
BC == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BC So I'm assuming that most drives support this, but the 1.743 BC format requires 83 tracks, AFAICS. Question then is, does rawrite2 BC support beyond track 80? There are 1.44 images, but the maintainers netlink is very crappy at the moment, so he can't upload them. Expect them to appear soon. In the meantime, just use the hamm floppies or dd if you have a linux box. Ciao, Martin
Re: Recommandation for LTT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I'm worrying about robots collecting emails. I really don't want that. [snip] Does anyone have other suggestions ? A simple idea I saw is to munge characters in the address as HTML- and URL-encoded text. I don't actually know how effective this would be, but hopefully not many email-collecting robots will decode the following properly: A HREF=mailto:c%2Eevans%40clear.net.n%7A;c.e#118;ans#64;clear#46;net.nz/A (Note especially that there are no @ characters for them to spot.) -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ Is there anyone who actually believes that USAicans are so modest or intellectually honest as to be unable to find someone to sue? - Cameron Laird
Re: sendmail check_mail ruleset
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ole J. Tetlie) writes: ...or even better; can someone help me fix my headers? I'm using exim and gnus. Since I'm not sure which details are pertinent, I'll wait with config files and such until requested. Please help, I don't want to wreak havoc on the net! :-) Do you get the same if you send the message with the `mail' command? e.g. mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does /var/log/exim/mainlog say about a single message sent from Gnus? Have you made any changes to the file generated by eximconfig? There are two places I think Sender: header could be coming from. Gnus might add one, and I can't see how it would ever not have an @ symbol. What do you get if you put your cursor after the following line and type `C-x C-e'? (concat (user-login-name) @ (system-name)) What does the Sender: header in any archived mail look like, if you're using the Gnus message archiving function? Gnus, by default, uses the -f flag on its call to /usr/sbin/sendmail, and exim might include a Sender: header because of this. You can disable this from Customize, or with the second line below, and often get better results. (customize-variable-other-window 'message-sendmail-f-is-evil) (setq message-sendmail-f-is-evil t) If all else fails, you could add the line below to your remote_smtp transport in /etc/exim.conf and see what happens. headers_remove = sender -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ Is there anyone who actually believes that USAicans are so modest or intellectually honest as to be unable to find someone to sue? - Cameron Laird
Re: sendmail check_mail ruleset
Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk writes: Messages from a Debian developer are messing up my combination of sendmail and fetchmail. [snip] I would like to get fetchmail to bounce rejected messages properly and continue, or else stop sendmail rejecting them. I cannot see how to do either. It looks like fetchmail is trying to use the Sender: header as the MAIL FROM: address, but is rewriting it. Try putting norewrite in your .fetchmailrc. Can anyone tell me how, please? Versions: sendmail8.9.1-9 fetchmail 4.3.9-1 That's an old version of fetchmail. Make sure you have your current version as a .deb somewhere, and download the latest version from unstable. *Don't* install the libc6 it wants if dpkg -i won't install it - it should be safe (with 4.6.6-2) to install it with dpkg -i --force-depends fetchmail_4.6.6-2.deb, since it's not an essential part of the system, and you can reinstall the older version if it breaks. ;-) (Anyone else reading: bash and libc6 are essential parts of the system. Don't use --force-depends unless you really know you won't ruin your week by doing so.) In any case, run fetchmail --verbose to get a better idea about what's happening. (I'm not having any problems with Ole's messages because my ISP inserts the Return-Path: header, which fetchmail uses first, and which is the *real* MAIL FROM address.) -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ Is there anyone who actually believes that USAicans are so modest or intellectually honest as to be unable to find someone to sue? - Cameron Laird
Re: PPP options for diferent nodes (was: ... different providers)
The problem is that I had to change the old line: connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/infovia for the new: connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/retenet and the initial comment on the above file says not to delete line or change the comments... You didn't delete a line or change the comments. You edited a line, which the initial comment says is ok. I have had no success in connecting thus far, what's the right way of doing this? Does your ISP really have a nine digit phone number? What exact problem are you having? No success is a bit vague. how do I do in order to connect through the new node? Why don't you just run pppconfig and create a new connection? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: sendmail check_mail ruleset
OJT == Ole J Tetlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OJT ...or even better; can someone help me fix my headers? I'm using OJT exim and gnus. Since I'm not sure which details are pertinent, OJT I'll wait with config files and such until requested. Please OJT help, I don't want to wreak havoc on the net! :-) gnus doesn't alter the sender header (except you did some nasty black magic in the config), so it must be exim. Unfortunately, I can't help you with this one, as I use smail. I hope you find this info useful at least. Ciao, Martin
Re: debian X
On Fri, Nov 27, 1998 at 09:49:03PM +, richard wrote: My problem is with the way the X server starts. I can happily use XF86Setup to give me a nice looking server at 1182x864x8, but after that whenever I run startx I get a message saying something about the X server not being able to run at the specified resolution (sorry I don't have the exact message at hand). BUT IT WORKED FOR XF86SETUP! You need to list your X server on the first line of /etc/X11/Xserver, then it will work fine. I have seen this behaviour with XF86Setup too, it is a bit confusing. Probably either the wrong server or no server (XF86_NONE) is listed in that config file. I know that 'X' is a wrapper around the chosen server but what exactly does it do? Some security stuff mostly. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: Recommandation for LTT
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 12:48:30PM +1300, Carey Evans wrote: A HREF=mailto:c%2Eevans%40clear.net.n%7A;c.e#118;ans#64;clear#46;net.nz/A (Note especially that there are no @ characters for them to spot.) Confuses the hell out of mutt/urlview too. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
upgrading slink cripples dselect/apt (and X) !!!
Help! I upgraded some packages this morning, and now running dselect gives the following error: dselect: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info Also, X gives graphics screen and mouse cursor, then craps out, giving the same error in ~/.xsession-errors I tried using dpkg to install the old packages, but it either refuses to uninstall libstdc++ because so many packages depend upon it, or to install the old version because a version is already installed. Catch 22. Zack
Re: How to customize fvwm entries ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul) writes: It seems to me that you are wrong, since when new packages are installed, update-menus considers the users who run update-menus as well. I am saying that on the basis of the following lines (from /usr/doc/menu/html/ch5.html): [snip] Am I right ? One of us should just try it and see. But the reason I don't think it will update individual users' menus is that when I run it, all the menus get put in ~/.fvwm2/whatever. When root runs it, the menus go into /etc/X11/fvwm2/whatever. If something changes because a new package is installed, the files in /etc/X11/fvwm2/ will be changed, but the old files in ~/.fvwm2/ will still contain the old data, and will override the new data, until that user runs update-menus again. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ Is there anyone who actually believes that USAicans are so modest or intellectually honest as to be unable to find someone to sue? - Cameron Laird
Points to Ponder
If the author of the utility loadlin.exe (Hans Lerman) has stated on his web page (http://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/~lermen) that all versions greater than 2.1.22 should be installed with the updated version of loadlin (v1.6a) due to memory detection problems, why is Debian still distributing v1.6? Why doesn't Debian also distribute the loadlin manual and parameters documents (total 32Kb and 13Kb respectively) when the loadlin.exe file refers to them for help with settings, switches, etc.? Or at least post the link to Hans Lermen's homepage on the main debian.org website? When the SLINK distribution was frozen, why weren't the installation documents upgraded as well? They should address the fact that the 1.73Mb floppy will not work for some machines and that a separate ROOT floppy is also needed in addition to the usual disks if a floppy install is done. Why hasn't a LINUX kernel file been included with the SLINK distribution to allow for installation with the loadlin.exe program without the file system errors the floppy version of the LINUX kernel file causes? Has anyone noticed that the frozen SLINK distribution is _exactly_ the same as the proposed new potato distribution? - BOHICA
Re: Points to Ponder
BOHICA wrote: Has anyone noticed that the frozen SLINK distribution is _exactly_ the same as the proposed new potato distribution? New distributions start the same as the old and diverge - I'm not sure what you're getting at. -- see shy jo
Re: Points to Ponder
On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, BOHICA wrote: : If the author of the utility loadlin.exe (Hans Lerman) has stated on his web : page (http://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/~lermen) that all versions greater than : 2.1.22 should be installed with the updated version of loadlin (v1.6a) due : to memory detection problems, why is Debian still distributing v1.6? : : Why doesn't Debian also distribute the loadlin manual and parameters : documents (total 32Kb and 13Kb respectively) when the loadlin.exe file : refers to them for help with settings, switches, etc.? Or at least post the : link to Hans Lermen's homepage on the main debian.org website? Good questions - why not ask the loadlin maintainer, or at least bring it up on -devel? : When the SLINK distribution was frozen, why weren't the installation : documents upgraded as well? They should address the fact that the 1.73Mb : floppy will not work for some machines and that a separate ROOT floppy is : also needed in addition to the usual disks if a floppy install is done. It won't work at all, so Enrique is making 1.44 images instead. His net connection blows so they've been a bit slow to appear. If you can do better, please do so. : Why hasn't a LINUX kernel file been included with the SLINK distribution to : allow for installation with the loadlin.exe program without the file system : errors the floppy version of the LINUX kernel file causes? Uh, what errors? : Has anyone noticed that the frozen SLINK distribution is _exactly_ the same : as the proposed new potato distribution? Duh; any future release will begin life as the current release. Since most of the work is going towards frozen rather than unstable right now I fail to see why this is such a shocker. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Points to Ponder
BOHICA wrote: If the author of the utility loadlin.exe (Hans Lerman) has stated on his web page (http://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/~lermen) that all versions greater than 2.1.22 should be installed with the updated version of loadlin (v1.6a) due to memory detection problems, why is Debian still distributing v1.6? Why doesn't Debian also distribute the loadlin manual and parameters documents (total 32Kb and 13Kb respectively) when the loadlin.exe file refers to them for help with settings, switches, etc.? Or at least post the link to Hans Lermen's homepage on the main debian.org website? If you find a problem with a particular package (e.g. - loadlin) please post a bug to the BTS linked from the debian home page. You can also email the maintainer of that package. If you need help on how to find the maintainer responsible for a particular package, feel free to email me and I'll explain it. [snip] Has anyone noticed that the frozen SLINK distribution is _exactly_ the same as the proposed new potato distribution? Frozen (slink) is a fork from the continuously updated unstable (now potato) distribution. At the moment they were forked, they were _exactly_ the same. However, from the moment they were forked, potato continues to get new packages and updated versions of upstream packages, where slink (frozen) will only get bug fixes, security updates, and other important stuff up until it is officially released. If you have problems believing that the two actually _are_ different, let me know and I'll send you a list of a few of the new packages added to potato that are not in slink, and also some example cases where potato has newer versions of packages than slink. Hope this clears up some confusion, -Mitch
Re: upgrading slink cripples dselect/apt (and X) !!!
On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Zack Brown wrote: dselect: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info Give this one a try: ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian/Incoming/libstdc++2.9_2.91.59-2_i386.deb Good luck, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/ | | Sometimes you have to release software with bugs. - MS Recruiter |
MBR
Evening all. Small problem here: seems that Lilo screwed up my MBR for one of the hard drives, specifically one with Win95 on it. Here is lilo.conf: boot = /dev/hda root = /dev/hdb2 install = /boot/boot.b map = /boot/map vga = normal delay = 50 ramdisk = 0 read-only default = linux image = /vmlinuz label = Debian alias = linux image = /boot/vmlinbackup label = backup other = /dev/hda1 label = MS table = /dev/hda Now..when at lilo prompt I type 'MS' I get Invalid System disk error message, even though there is no disk in floppy. BIOS still detects the disk. I can mount my windows partition and look at the files. But I can not boot into Windows. When I insert my Win boot disk, this is what it does: Gives me 'Starting Windows 95' Then throws me in dos on A: drive. When I do c: It takes me to the C drive, which is what used to be D drive in windows, and is a /dev/hdb in linux. C drive as a C drive where my windows is located, /dev/hda, is not accessible. Cfdisk did not recognise the type of partition that I had on /dev/hda Any ideas on how to get my C drive back? I do need Windows, until I get cyrillics to work in linux. TIA, Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
Re: Points to Ponder
On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, BOHICA wrote: : If the author of the utility loadlin.exe (Hans Lerman) has stated on his web : When the SLINK distribution was frozen, why weren't the installation : documents upgraded as well? They should address the fact that the 1.73Mb : floppy will not work for some machines and that a separate ROOT floppy is : also needed in addition to the usual disks if a floppy install is done. It won't work at all, so Enrique is making 1.44 images instead. His net connection blows so they've been a bit slow to appear. If you can do better, please do so. The disks work on a few systems (or so I've heard). But, Enrique finally got the 1440 images in incoming (thanks Enrique). Check out llug.sep.bnl.gov if you don't have an account on master. HTH, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/ | | Sometimes you have to release software with bugs. - MS Recruiter |
Re: MBR
Boot from any DOS 6.X/Win95 bootable diskette and once in the DOS prompt type fdisk /mbr. This will reinstate your clubbered MBR. BTW, is there anyway in this list to reply to the list instead of the author? My problem is I have filtering of incoming emails and it doesn't work 'coz my filter looks in the To: field only (of course I can change this to look in the Cc: field). Second, it an added burden having to make sure that the list address is in the Cc: field when I reply to a query. -Original Message- From: Andrew Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 7:54 AM Subject: MBR Evening all. Small problem here: seems that Lilo screwed up my MBR for one of the hard drives, specifically one with Win95 on it. Here is lilo.conf: boot = /dev/hda root = /dev/hdb2 install = /boot/boot.b map = /boot/map vga = normal delay = 50 ramdisk = 0 read-only default = linux image = /vmlinuz label = Debian alias = linux image = /boot/vmlinbackup label = backup other = /dev/hda1 label = MS table = /dev/hda Now..when at lilo prompt I type 'MS' I get Invalid System disk error message, even though there is no disk in floppy. BIOS still detects the disk. I can mount my windows partition and look at the files. But I can not boot into Windows. When I insert my Win boot disk, this is what it does: Gives me 'Starting Windows 95' Then throws me in dos on A: drive. When I do c: It takes me to the C drive, which is what used to be D drive in windows, and is a /dev/hdb in linux. C drive as a C drive where my windows is located, /dev/hda, is not accessible. Cfdisk did not recognise the type of partition that I had on /dev/hda Any ideas on how to get my C drive back? I do need Windows, until I get cyrillics to work in linux. TIA, Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Getting Rid of Debian/Linux
Try GDISK. It's more flexible than DoS fdisk. I use in on my laptop to create/delete Linux partitions many times. -Original Message- From: Rainer Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Debian/Linux Hi! David McDonald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd wrote: I have a requirement to remove Debian from one of our workstations and re-install DOS/Windows (Horror!) Just boot from your DOS installation disks, run the FDISK program (I can't recall if it will do this automatically or not - you may have to exit to the DOS prompt with the F3 key (again, that's the way I remember it, not necessarily the way it is). Note: DoS won't delete logical non-DoS partitions. You need to use something else to delete them. For example you could use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1 to nuke ALL partitions on /dev/hda or simply use Linux's fdisk to delete those parts (or change their type to a DoS one) Rainer -- KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB 78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB
How to config XF98_MGA
Hi! My computer's card is Matrox AGP G100,Now I downloaded a server XF98_MGA.It's only one file after uncompress and i put it to /usr/bin/X11,change the config in /etc/XF86Config and Xserver. But it doesn't work.After startx,it report can't find the server.I have add some line of G100 in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards,but in XF86Setup,there's only the card ,no the new server.How can i do? Thank you. cj
Netscape - Newbie Linux User
Wuz up all? Alright here is my problem. I have Debian 2.0 installed. I downloaded [navigator-v45-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar] from ftp6.netscape.com. I installed it and everything. Now when ever I go to the installed dir [/usr/local/netscape] and i type ./netscape it gets an error message [unable to load library libXpm.so.4]. I then did a search with dselect to find the package [xpm4.7] which contains the [libXpm.so.4] lib. Then i did dpkg -i xpm4.7 and it wouldn't install it. I don't wanna go through with dselect because that takes forever! And apt doesn't work with my cd-rom :( Any suggestions? Thanx NoDg
Debian on Toshiba laptop
I'm using a Toshiba 320CDT laptop, P233 MMX, 4 GB hard disk, one D-Link DE-660 and one Xircom 10/100+56 PCMCIA. I am new to Linux. Before I was trying out the slackzip version of Slackware Linux and when I boot it automatically finds my Xircom card, loads it as eth0 and assigns the ip address I want. Now I have Debian Linux and when I boot it finds not the Xircom card but the D-Link card. I know I can setup a script to add the Xircom settings later on but why is this happening? How can I or where can I put my script for the second card? Is it in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts the right choice? TIA.
Re: Dialout within X
I think you need to be a little more specific. See further comments below: So I see that I am not the only person to get those libXpm.so.4 problems with Netscape. And yes, I did install both libc5 and libc6. What version did you install? How did you install it (ie. As a debian package, what components, etc ..)? I have just installed hamm distribution (kernel 2.0.34) onto my system, and X won't let me dial out. Even worse, to dial in, I have to reboot the system! There are no error messages, just that the modem won't respond (tested it myself). Errr yes, but this is such a general statement. Your problems will relate to your setup and how you are trying to initiate a connection. Are you seeing any nasty messages when dialling out? Have you check the ppp log? When you say X won't let you dial out, does this mean you can dial out when X is not running? Has your modem ever worked with your current installation? Does ppp work when x windows is not running? Why do you have to reboot the system, does everything lockup? I am sure if you can supply more detail some of the people who read this list can help out. It may be a good idea to tackle you problems one by one. Like, why not concentrate on getting the ppp sorted first before worrying about netscape. Regards ...
Re: Netscape - Newbie Linux User
Wuz up all? Not me. It's 1 am local time ... Alright here is my problem. I have Debian 2.0 installed. I downloaded [navigator-v45-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar] from ftp6.netscape.com. I installed it and everything. Now when ever I go to the installed dir ^ That was your first mistake :) ... there's a netscape installer package which will do this for you. Search at www.debian.org -- follow the Dists link and search the main stable archive for netscape4. If you put the tarball from netscape.com in /tmp and dpkg -i the netscape4 .deb file, it'll install it and take care of setting up library paths, etc... find the package [xpm4.7] which contains the [libXpm.so.4] lib. Then i did dpkg -i xpm4.7 and it wouldn't install it. I don't wanna go through with What were the errors? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- |And if you on tight to what you think is your thing | |you may find you're missing all the rest ...| |- Dave Matthews, Best of What's Around | --
__register_frame_info?
Hello all! I just attempted upgrading from 2.0 to slink and have run across some problems. I simply redirected dselect to look in slink instead of stable and installed the suggested packages. Unfortunately, some programs are no longer working now. This includes dselect, groff, and telnet. I get the following messages for these three examples: bash-2.01$ telnet telnet: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info bash-2.01$ dselect dselect: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info bash-2.01$ groff groff: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info What is this __register_frame_info and which file/package should it be located in that I might be missing? Richard.. - Richard DansereauICQ: 1604133 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://pobox.com/~rdanse Electrical and Computer Engineering - The University of Manitoba - Canada -
unavailable dependencies: libgtop1 and libguile4
These packages are needed by some gnome packages, but they don't seem to be available. Zack
__register_frame_info - Re: frozen i386 killed dselect etc
For all those afflicted, libc6-2.0.7u-6 (thats right? ITs off the top of my head. u-6 is right.) is causing havoc with slink/potato upgrades. If you have this problem, get the following: ftp://ftp.terrasoft.hu/pub/debian/reginfo-fix.tar.gz which can temporarily help you out... (I hope there is a README with it, I got the URL from debian-devel - check the archives there for instructions if you need them) it provides the missing symbol, which you can use until all packages are compiled against -6 or 2.1. HTH. For all others, put libc6 on hold :) On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, John Leget wrote: Just updated with debian i386 frozen today andi ran into trouble as follows /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2:undefined symbol : _register_fram_info which effectively killed dselect,xfstt (which caused x to bomb :)), and probably more. now i traced the symlink to - libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so and replaced it with one from another partition which has only the base install ( linux safe mode grin) same problem i eventually fixed that by replacing a file libm.so.6 -libm-2.0.7.so ( which i found using ldd libstdc++-2-libc6... libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40047000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4006) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x) ) with libm-2.0.7.so from my other partition and it seems to fix part of the problem dselect and xfstt are running again for now, just wondering what i havent yet fixed ;0) I dont know what package caused the problem, but ive no doubt someone does :) I cant say linux doesnt bomb as much as M$ windows, but some differences ive found 1) i have generally been able to fix it WITHOUT a reinstall 2) it runs like it did when i installed it( well not entirely true its running better as i understand it a bit more now grin) unlike windows which decays with time, i ussually needed to reinstall every +-3 months 3) it doesnt promise to be something it aint 4) i enjoy using it :) etc Thanx all -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 001 Windows loaded - System in danger - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Netscape - Newbie Linux User
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Will Lowe wrote: find the package [xpm4.7] which contains the [libXpm.so.4] lib. Then i did dpkg -i xpm4.7 and it wouldn't install it. I don't wanna go through with What were the errors? Hmmm... I can imagine the errors... try giving dpkg the absolute path to the file on your CD. `dpkg -i` is for installing .deb files, and the way you put it, the .deb file xpm4.7 in the current directory. HTH, Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - God's last name is not damn. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Kernel 2.0.34 problems
Anyone else get this when doing a make zlilo with 2.0.34? ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x1000 -e startup_32 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/compres sed' gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -D__BFD__ - o tools/build tools/build.c -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include tools/build.c:25: stdio.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:26: string.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:27: stdlib.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:28: sys/types.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:29: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:30: sys/sysmacros.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:31: unistd.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:32: fcntl.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:35: errno.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [tools/build] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot' make: *** [zlilo] Error 2 -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgpHHd1rKGblQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems
Install the kernel header files. -Egon On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: Anyone else get this when doing a make zlilo with 2.0.34? ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x1000 -e startup_32 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/compres sed' gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -D__BFD__ - o tools/build tools/build.c -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include tools/build.c:25: stdio.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:26: string.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:27: stdlib.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:28: sys/types.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:29: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:30: sys/sysmacros.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:31: unistd.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:32: fcntl.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:35: errno.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [tools/build] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot' make: *** [zlilo] Error 2
Re: How to config XF98_MGA
On dom, 29 nov 1998, cj wrote: Hi! My computer's card is Matrox AGP G100,Now I downloaded a server XF98_MGA.It's only one file after uncompress and i put it to /usr/bin/X11,change the config in /etc/XF86Config and Xserver. But it doesn't work.After startx,it report can't find the server. Did you update the symbolic links /usr/bin/X11/X and /etc/X11/X ? They must point to your server. Bye! Cesare Tagliaferri
Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 10:02:00AM +0100, Egon Schmid wrote: Install the kernel header files. I hate to say it, but I am not that stupid. Neither is dselect. *** Opt develkernel-heade 2.0.34-42.0.34-4Header files related *** Opt develkernel-sourc 2.0.34-42.0.34-4Linux kernel source. On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: Anyone else get this when doing a make zlilo with 2.0.34? ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x1000 -e startup_32 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/compres sed' gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -D__BFD__ - o tools/build tools/build.c -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include tools/build.c:25: stdio.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:26: string.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:27: stdlib.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:28: sys/types.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:29: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:30: sys/sysmacros.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:31: unistd.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:32: fcntl.h: No such file or directory tools/build.c:35: errno.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [tools/build] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot' make: *** [zlilo] Error 2 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgphpv5cH8tGm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems
Oh sorry, I have never tried to build a kernel the Debian way. So I have to symlink the header files according the README. Could it be that there is something wrong? -Egon On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 10:02:00AM +0100, Egon Schmid wrote: Install the kernel header files. I hate to say it, but I am not that stupid. Neither is dselect. *** Opt develkernel-heade 2.0.34-42.0.34-4Header files related *** Opt develkernel-sourc 2.0.34-42.0.34-4Linux kernel source.
Re: About cdrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom Well, yes. Unfortunately the mechanism that creates it from the boot floppies was broken. Because when I install debian I do mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get /dev/cdrom file or Dir not found Issue the command ln -s hdb /dev/cdrom if your cdrom is an atapi cdrom as slave on the first adapter. Regards, Joey -- VFS: no free i-nodes, contact Linus -- finlandia, Feb '94
Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 10:22:24AM +0100, Egon Schmid wrote: Oh sorry, I have never tried to build a kernel the Debian way. So I have to symlink the header files according the README. Could it be that there is something wrong? We'll find out shortly. I'm FTPing the sources from sunsite. Never did like the Debian way of doing the Kernel. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgplHnLGdAWZ6.pgp Description: PGP signature
finding a package name given a filename
Hi, Is it possible, given a filename -- say: 'as86' -- to find the package from which it has been extracted ? This fonctionnality is available with rpm : 'rpm -qf as86' I've read dpkg manpages but found nothing... Thanks, -- --- Éric Jacoboni « J'ai épuisé le tout-venant, je vais me risquer dans le bizarre » (M. Audiard) ---
Re: finding a package name given a filename
On 29 Nov 1998, Eric Jacoboni wrote: Is it possible, given a filename -- say: 'as86' -- to find the package from which it has been extracted ? dpkg --search as86 Best regards, Nuno Carvalho
Printer cuts bottom off...
Hi, I have got magic-filter set up, and everything prints ok, i.e can print graphics, text etc. but it always cuts the bottom off. Well it goes like this, the whole document prints fine untill the last page at which the printer stops and displays the I've got data, press this button to continue led. So I press the button on the printer and out comes the last page all fine exept the last few centimeters. Any help ? regards travs. Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
RE: OFFTOPIC: ssh in userspace?
access). Compile ssh (should do without root privileges), do not try to install it (this requires root) and run sshd with a port argument. If you install it giving your home (or ~/local/) as root, won't it install nicely under ~/local/ ? Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
RE: netscape woes
Not so! Mozilla may not be the wonderful GPL'd program I would like it to be, but it's still free. Unless you consider that Mozilla isn't quite from Netscape... So what happens when AOL decides not to support Mozilla any further? The joke about Mozilla not being quite from Netscape^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HAOL is that Mozilla is the name of the strictly free version of Netscape, which, if still copyrighted by Netscape, is worked on by everyone. And as the license is free, even if it's copyrighted by Netscape it is available for everyone. If AOL stops supporting Mozilla, it was already released under a free software license. So we (the free software community) take over the development, and that's it. Once something has been released, everyone who obtained that thing legally still abide by the original license. No one can impose on you modifications on the license terms you have already obtained. So the software is free forever. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
RE: More dselect wishes
Please, people! dselect is free software, under GPL. Instead of daydreaming about a thousand features, implement them and submit the patches to the current maintainer! Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Re: finding a package name given a filename
Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible, given a filename -- say: 'as86' -- to find the package from which it has been extracted ? dpkg --search as86 Thanks for your answer but your suggestion doesn't match my question : =-=-=-= [titine]:~/$ dpkg --search as86 bin86: /usr/doc/bin86/examples/as86_encap bin86: /usr/man/man1/as86.1.gz bin86: /usr/bin/as86 =-=-=-= What i want to get is something like : =-=-=-= [titine]:~/$ dpkg --fromwhich '/usr/bin/xemacs' would give : /usr/bin/xemacs: xemacs20-bin =-=-=-= So, given a file, obtain the _package_ (the opposite of --contents, in fact...) -- --- Éric Jacoboni « J'ai épuisé le tout-venant, je vais me risquer dans le bizarre » (M. Audiard) ---
Re: finding a package name given a filename
On 29 Nov 1998, Eric Jacoboni wrote: Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible, given a filename -- say: 'as86' -- to find the package from which it has been extracted ? dpkg --search as86 Thanks for your answer but your suggestion doesn't match my question : =-=-=-= [titine]:~/$ dpkg --search as86 bin86: /usr/doc/bin86/examples/as86_encap bin86: /usr/man/man1/as86.1.gz bin86: /usr/bin/as86 =-=-=-= Didn't you want to know on what package was as86 extracted!? as86 belongs to the bin86 package !! I think that's what you want! Best regards, Nuno Carvalho
Re: finding a package name given a filename
Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't you want to know on what package was as86 extracted!? as86 belongs to the bin86 package !! I think that's what you want! Yep, you're right ;-) _But_ try to do a : $ dpkg -S xemacs And you will see all an unnecessary garbage instead of just the package name from which the xemacs executable has been extracted... Nevermind, i've resolved the problem : $ dpkg -S xemacs|grep '/usr/bin/xemacs' xemacs20-nomule: /usr/bin/xemacs-20.4-nomule or, $ dpkg -S as86 |grep `which as86` bin86: /usr/bin/as86 That's ok for me... Thanks again. -- --- Éric Jacoboni « J'ai épuisé le tout-venant, je vais me risquer dans le bizarre » (M. Audiard) ---
RE: ascd
I use Afterstep as my window manager and I have asmixer installed, but I can't find it anywhere on my system. Run update-menu If you still can't find asmixer, try typing asmixer in any xterm (or similar windowed shell). If asmixer isn't in your path, try locate asmixer That requires that you've installed dbupdate, which I think is part of the GNU fileutils. If you do not have locate, try: find / -name asmixer Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
RE: Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to install my packages it says dpkg-perl file not found or renamed then it tells me where to put it when I search for it though its not there how do I fix this? Never seen this... but if it says not found or renamed, it would be strange if it could be found! Please give the exact messages you get, and what exactly you were trying to do, and how. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
RE: how get a pci plug and pray soundcard installation
I run a TerraTec XLerate Soundcard -PCI and Plug Play snip But, unfortuanellety, I can't get the soundcard `swingin'. Isn't it Windows-only? If it says it needs Windows, better to believe it. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
linuxconf
Hi! Has anyone succesfully installed linuxconf on debian? If yes, is it worth it? Salutacions, Pere __oUltima Ratio Regum 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key available --- (_)/ (_) http://casal.upc.es/~pere/
RE: Low memory performance question
The question is - Is Debian going to run worth a d**n on this thing? The primary use will be for learning C and mucking about with shell programming. I won't be loading much more then the base system, gcc, g++, and vi. It should be fine *if* you won't do anything heavy in C. gcc is about one of the most demanding apps if you start to compile big things like gcc itself. If you are going to learn C only there's no need to install g++. Did you got past that 20-minutes message? Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Re: linuxconf
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Pere Camps wrote: Hi! Has anyone succesfully installed linuxconf on debian? If yes, is it worth it? At the moment, linuxconf-version 1.10r34 is available in projects/experimental. Recent linuxconf-release is 1.13r7, but the debian-maintainer is obviously to busy to build a new release. I did a deb by my self. But there are serious problems: First of all, linuxconf breaks! Debian sysvinit, this means you can't boot, if you let do linuxconf the booting. it is possible to edit the /etc/init.d/rc-script provided with linuxconf that you can boot. But this means you can't use the benefits of linuxconf while booting. Otherwise linuxconf is IMHO a very easy to use config-utility. If some more people can help me testing linuxconf we can make it usable for debian. I try to get more info from the author how linuxconf can be set up for debian. You can download my recent package if you want to test it. my homepage will be available within 2 or 3 days. -- Heute ist nicht alle Tage, ich komme wieder, keine Frage!!! Joerg
RE: Debian 2.0 (Cheapbyets CD) EZSTART does not recognize CD-ROM IRQ
hdd: IRQ probe failed (0) hdd: IRQ probe failed (0) hdd: Toshiba CD ROM XM-6102D ATAPI CDROM DRIVE hdd: IRQ probe failed (0) ide0 at 0x160-0x1fg, 0x36 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15 If I then try to mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom my system hangs in the Left-Alt F2 virtual terminal, and I have to reboot. No use trying to do that if the CD couldn't be found by the kernel... I would like to be able to find out what IRQ and i/o address my Toshiba CD-ROM is working under. MSD will not provide this information (at least I don't recognize it). Can I do it from the Left-Alt F2 virtual console in EZSTART? If I can find out what the irq and i/o address should be (using some GNU utility that is available on the Left-Alt F2 virtual console), how would I then get the system to accept these values for the CD-ROM? You could check the files under /proc. And when you find the addresses, use modconf to reinstall the driver. It will give you a chance to type any parameter after you select the driver. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
RE: Dselect hard crash; now dselect won't run
(Debian 1.1 - slink) You mean 2.1? 11:06pm ~$ dselect dselect: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info I attempted reinstalling both libc6 and libstdc++2.9, but it didn't help. The file mentioned above does exist. Any clues? Or is my root system hosed beyond repair? Did you removed first, then reinstalled, or simply tried to install again? Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
custom-kernel 2.0.34 / vfat modules
Hi, I have compiled the a custom 2.0.34 Kernel from the hamm sources, on a hamm system. I installed with make zlilo. On startup I get errors about unresolved symbols in the vfat modules. Any ideas, whats going wrong ??? (by the way, there were some typos in the sources, one in af_inet, the other I don't remember now ...) thanks, Ingo --- Ingo Hohmann, Otto-Speckter-Str.17b, D-22307 Hamburg, Germany Tel/Fax: + 49 40 / 69 79 24 80eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SVGAlib, ZGV and ET6000 - hi res modes?
Hello all, I want to use zgv with svgalib, which works, but the hi-res modes do not (I get 640x480, I think). As far as I know, my video card (et6000, 4Mb) is downward compatible with et4000 which has good (?) support in svgalib. I however cannot gather from the docs how to change modes. the F-keys as stated in the zgv manpage do not work. Under X, i can get 1280x1024x256. Could someone explain to me how I set up svgalib / zgv ? Thanks in advance, Felix -- ir F.K.K. ChangHaarlemmerstraat 303 http://stad.dsl.nl/~changfkk/index.html 2312 DV Leiden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/Fax 071 5147683 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Overdag 0251 492927 ___
slink upgrade
Still trying to install slink. Somebody on the list suggested that I install hamm and then upgrade to slink as the 1743 resue disk won't work on my system. I cannot seem to find any instructions or FAQ to show how to upgrade to slink from hamm. Maybe I am just looking in the wrong place. Can someone point me to the right place? TIA, Lawrence Baker
RE: Automatizing installation on several machines
But since I'm not very experienced with networking my problem is: how to install the /home directories on the server (any user should be able to work on every machine which is available, so I think it would be the best way to export the user directories with NFS). Besides exporting the user directories with NFS, you need to define your users in NIS, NIS+ or something similar. The same service (NIS, etc.) will have to define also the mounts that contain the user directories. Never done that (there weren't many users nor machines enough to justify taking the time from more urgent things), so for the details ask someone more experient than me. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
libXt.so.3 DOOM
I just downloaded the linux doom binary and .WAD. Running the linuxxdoom results in can't find library 'libXt.so.3'. I tried making a symlink to libXt.so.6 (ln -s libXt.so.6 libXt.so.3), and it still didn't work, although 'libXt.so.3' is listed in the /usr/X11R6/lib directory (cuz of the symlink). So, Where can I find the appropriate library? or How do I CORRECTLY do the sym-link (if I did it wrong)? Thanks __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Window Maker
Alright. Here is my question. I am running Window Maker on Debian 2.0. I just got Netscape navigator working but whenever i want to load it i have to type [cd /usr/local/netscape] then [./netscape]. I dont feel like doing this every time i want to work on netscape. How would i add Netscape to the Window Maker menu (the menu that pops up when you right click :Apps|Games|System etc...). Thanx guys NoDg
RE: More dselect wishes
Please, people! dselect is free software, under GPL. Instead of daydreaming about a thousand features, implement them and submit the patches to the current maintainer! Are you suggesting that anyone who does not have the skill to implement features should not participate at all? No one has to implement the features that I or anyone else ask for. But we are not asking for bizarre, useless things. The ideas in this thread have all been heartfelt, useful indicators of things that actual developers might consider. If you don't want to implement the suggestions people make, then don't implement them. But don't get on people's back for trying to make the software better in whatever way they know how. Sheesh. A nice way to look at it is that suggestions are sort of like idea-patches. People submit their idea-patches to the maintainers, and the maintainers decide whether to apply them with patch-brain or not. Bottom line: suggestions can do no harm, and they may help. Zack
Re: libXt.so.3 DOOM
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, jim r wrote: I just downloaded the linux doom binary and .WAD. Running the linuxxdoom results in can't find library 'libXt.so.3'. I tried making a symlink to libXt.so.6 (ln -s libXt.so.6 libXt.so.3), and it still didn't work, although 'libXt.so.3' is listed in the /usr/X11R6/lib directory (cuz of the symlink). So, Where can I find the appropriate library? or How do I CORRECTLY do the sym-link (if I did it wrong)? You symlinked the wrong file, get the libc5-compat (or something like that) package from the oldlibs directory. Doom I II, Quake I II are libc5 binaries AFAIC. Remove the symlinkn first you might never know what'll happen. Cheers! Admiral Charah Technical Support Group Cyberspace Laoag, ISP
RE: Is this really the right thing to do?
The developers of dpkg could do something like add a 'package grouping' feature that lets newcomers (especially newbies to X11) understand the relationship between packages. Do anyone knows what the dpkg developers think about the issue? Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
RE: Please help with Networking
Alan thanks for advice but i'm a linux/unix newbie you lost me after the network card 1. make sure that your network card is supported--yes 2. make sure kernel has support enabled (compiled in or module)--how to check?? It will only have kernel if you recompiled your kernel. If it is module, check running modconf and looking in the net section. 3. setup ip host in /etc/hosts-how to set up?? Add a line: ip-address hostname in the /etc/hosts file. 4. setup dns in /etc/resolv.conf--how to set up? Add a line here also. For the format, do: man resolv.conf 5. reboot - check that route is not setup for you--how to check?? Do not know also. Anyone? 5a. setup route, like (on debian, it's etc/init.d/network), find the file by grepping on ifconfig lo--grepping?? ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0 to grep means getting the output of a command into the command grep, which will give only the lines containing the specified string. Like: ifconfig lo | grep string-to-look-for You can always do a: man command-name to find about the command-name use and sintax. If you need only remembering something you already knew, you can use: command-name -h Which will give you a command summary. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
RE: An alternative to glint (reading rpm's)
what. Is there a way to see what these applications are, without re-installing redhat??? There is a package to enable the use of .rpm's in Debian, it is called... I forget the name! I'm without access to the web or to a Debian machine now, please look for it in dselect or on the search machine in http://www.debian.org./ Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Installing Debian 2.0 (Intel) for first time
Hi; (My System:QDI 430TX motherboard,CyriX 200MMX CPU and 96MG Edo Ram) I am new to Linux Debian, Also I am not a programmer. I have tried to install Debian 2.0 (Intel)from CD. I have Win98 on my 4.3GB hard drive so I cleared 2.4G and managed to create a 200Mg root partition dev/hda3, a 96MG ((is this much necessary? )swap partition dev/hda7 an a 2.1+GB linux partition dev/hda8 and have reached the Configure Device Drivers step; but I am unsure what settings to use. Here is a list of the additional hardware I have: HP 7100i CD Writer ( uses Direct CD for writing data and Easy Cd for writing audio ) Philips DRD 5200 DVD ROM Matrox Millennium II ( 4MG ) Real Magic Hollywood 2 Mpeg2 Card US Robotic Sportster 56.6K Fax\Voice Modem Flyvideo II ( TV Tuner Card ) Standard serial mouse Can you please let me know what I must do to get them to run in Linux?. Also at one attempted to install I left Configure Device Drivers blank, then when I reached the list of access methods in Dselect, when I chose cdrom it requested the Block I do not know what this is. I read the Dselect documentation for beginners but it has no mention of this. It does talk about mounting your CD could you explain what mounting is and how I can mount the CD drives mentioned above. Finally can you recommend the best learning materials for learning how to use and get the most out of Linux ( remembering I am a beginner ) Thanks Chris _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
I need help Installing Debian 2.0 (Intel) for first time
Hi; (My System:QDI 430TX motherboard,CyriX 200MMX CPU and 96MG Edo Ram) I am new to Linux Debian, Also I am not a programmer. I have tried to install Debian 2.0 (Intel)from CD. I have Win98 on my 4.3GB hard drive so I cleared 2.4G and managed to create a 200Mg root partition dev/hda3, a 96MG ((is this much necessary? )swap partition dev/hda7 an a 2.1+GB linux partition dev/hda8 and have reached the Configure Device Drivers step; but I am unsure what settings to use. Here is a list of the additional hardware I have: HP 7100i CD Writer ( uses Direct CD for writing data and Easy Cd for writing audio ) Philips DRD 5200 DVD ROM Matrox Millennium II ( 4MG ) Real Magic Hollywood 2 Mpeg2 Card US Robotic Sportster 56.6K Fax\Voice Modem Flyvideo II ( TV Tuner Card ) Standard serial mouse Can you please let me know what I must do to get them to run in Linux?. Also at one attempted to install I left Configure Device Drivers blank, then when I reached the list of access methods in Dselect, when I chose cdrom it requested the Block I do not know what this is. I read the Dselect documentation for beginners but it has no mention of this. It does talk about mounting your CD could you explain what mounting is and how I can mount the CD drives mentioned above. Finally can you recommend the best learning materials for learning how to use and get the most out of Linux ( remembering I am a beginner ) Thanks Chris _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: I need help Installing Debian 2.0 (Intel) for first time
It is very likely that you will have a problem with your modem. US Robotics makes good Winmodems, that are not working for Linux. Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
Re: An alternative to glint (reading rpm's)
Leandro Dutra wrote: what. Is there a way to see what these applications are, without re-installing redhat??? There is a package to enable the use of .rpm's in Debian, it is called... I forget the name! I'm without access to the web or to a Debian machine now, please look for it in dselect or on the search machine in http://www.debian.org./ There is a debian package that will read and install RPMs. It is called rpm. (surprise) However, it is disadvised to use it because it will bypass the dpkg system and build up cruft on your system, and won't be able to read dependancies between the two systems. It is better to use the package called alien to first convert the rpm to a deb, then install it with dpkg. -Mitch
Re: Netscape - Newbie Linux User
Subject: Netscape - Newbie Linux User Date: Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 12:27:53AM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Wuz up all? Alright here is my problem. I have Debian 2.0 installed. I downloaded [navigator-v45-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar] from ftp6.netscape.com. I installed it and everything. Now when ever I go to the installed dir [/usr/local/netscape] and i type ./netscape it gets an error message [unable to load library libXpm.so.4]. I then did a search with dselect to find the package [xpm4.7] which contains the [libXpm.so.4] lib. Then i did dpkg -i xpm4.7 and it wouldn't install it. I don't wanna go through with dselect because that takes forever! And apt doesn't work with my cd-rom :( Any suggestions? Use lynx, take a look in the debian-user archives. There have been a _bunch_ of people with the same problem. I recall that you have to download 4-5 packages to get it working 'the debian' way. Look for mail from Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] as he found most of the answers to the problem. HTH Thanx NoDg -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
expect script with ppp and stty forces reboot
I recently began using an expect script to connect to my office via ppp and have a problem with how I initialize the modem. I talk with the modem in the expect script as follows: system stty 38400 -echoe -echo raw /dev/ttyS1 /dev/ttyS1 spawn -noecho -open [open /dev/ttyS1 r+] and at the end of the script I start up pppd as overlay -0 $spawn_id -1 $spawn_id /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 38400 This works fine (as far as I can tell), but after disconnecting using poff, I can't reissue the stty command to make a subsequent connection. In other words, stty 38400 -echoe -echo raw /dev/ttyS1 /dev/ttyS1 just hangs. I can't figure out how to reset this, so I have to reboot (cheap excuse). Does anyone know how I can solve this? Thanks, Colin. -- Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telmer.com
Kernel compile problem
I got a sound card (my wife insisted on having a sound card), and am now trying to recompile the kernel to include support for it. I've got the configuration set up, and everything appears to be correct. I run make-kpkg, and it runs until I get this: gcc: Internal compiler error: Program cc1 got fatal signal 11. This apparently occurs at random points during the run of the compile; this particular one occurred while compiling init.o. Previous errors have occurred at floppy.o, keyboard.o, pty.o. I get the same error trying to compile the kernel manually (make clean, make config, make dep, make zImage). Sometimes I get a message saying that cpp has experienced a broken output pipe. Sometimes I don't. What am I missing? I tried turning off the CPU cache, and it didn't change this behavior. I can run this inside of X and outside of X, and I get the same problem. The headers and the source are both present. If it matters, I'm running a Cyrix 6x86L P200+. Disk space available is 75MB or so; memory is 80MB. Help... Roger Franz
Re: Kernel compile problem
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:06:29PM +, Roger Franz wrote: gcc: Internal compiler error: Program cc1 got fatal signal 11. Ohh, nasty. AFAIR this means you have some bad mem or cpu (more likely memory). I could be wrong. -- --- - - --- - - - --- Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux UnixGroup Admin - Jordan Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- - - - --- --- -- The Choice of the GNU Generation
Re: Window Maker
this every time i want to work on netscape. How would i add Netscape to the Window Maker menu (the menu that pops up when you right click :Apps|Games|System etc...). Thanx guys edit your ~/GNUStep/Defaults/WMRootMenu file. This defines the menus that WindowMaker shows. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- |And if you on tight to what you think is your thing | |you may find you're missing all the rest ...| |- Dave Matthews, Best of What's Around | --
Re: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
Eric Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recently installed Slink on a laptop. I have the latest versions of all the signifigant packages. When I try to run dselect, groff, or many many other things, I get this: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info How do I fix this??? You complain to upstream maintainers to fix their packages. Until they do, you can use an older version of libc6. I've put the last one I had at: http://master.debian.org/~fizbin/libc6_2.0.7u-3.deb Why did this happen? Well, there were a few versions of libc6 which got out which were broken. The way they were broken meant that programs compiled with them (not C, just C++, pascal, and anything else using certain egcs compilers, as opposed to gcc stuff) couldn't be run anywhere else - they all had this weird dependency on this odd symbol. Now, once libc6 is fixed, we have this scenario. In any case, downgrade libc6 until all of your other packages have been upgraded and this stupid libc6 inconsistency is fixed.
Sony CDU33A
// from :Anders a.k.a Caine I just installed Debian on an old 486, which has a old sony cdu33a cdrom connected to a soundblaster 16. The problem is that the soundcard only has jumper settings for the cdroms irq, not for the base adress, and stupid as I am, I didn't have those written down somewhere since I haven't used this comp for some 2-3 years. After having tried all possible irq and base adresses combination with the sony cdu31a module (which I have a vauge memory of working when I first installed linux on this computer), I was wondering if there is any nice way to determine irq base adress and therefore being able to use it. Or if there is any other nice method to get it to work I don't know of ;) --- go to the soundblaster (creative labs) web site and you will find the jumper settings for your soundblaster 16 card. I got a similar card (without cd interface) from a used computer store with no documentation and was able to find what I needed from their web site. _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
An alternative to glint (reading rpm's)
I made an interesting purchase just recently of Red Hat 5.1, thinking I would try it out and see if it was any better. It had some advantages and disadvantages, but in the end I decided to come back to debian. The situation I am in now however, is that I have an applications CD (the third Cd in the set) from redhat 5.1, but I have no idea what these applications are. I would like to try these out but want to know what is what. Is there a way to see what these applications are, without re-installing redhat??? I believe that redhat uses a program called glide to read this application CD, is there an equivalent for debian ?? or should I try installing glide (which I doubt would work as I would need to include other parts of redhat) ?? Install the alien package which includes RPM. You can now use the query command of rpm to get the descriptions of the packages on that redhat cd. You could also convert all the packages to .deb's and put them in their own directory on your hd, and then examine them with deselect. Any one have comments on this... Thanks _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: An alternative to glint (reading rpm's)
Subject: RE: An alternative to glint (reading rpm's) Date: Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:00:42PM +0200 In reply to:Leandro Dutra Quoting Leandro Dutra([EMAIL PROTECTED]): what. Is there a way to see what these applications are, without re-installing redhat??? There is a package to enable the use of .rpm's in Debian, it is called... I forget the name! I'm without access to the web or to a Debian machine now, please look for it in dselect or on the search machine in http://www.debian.org./ Let me see, oh ya, its's called rpm. One version is in: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/admin/rpm_2.5.1-6.deb HTH Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Micro Credo: Never trust a computer bigger than you can lift. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Virtual Console Messed Up When Switching From X
I'm sorry if a similar message has appeared before. It seemed not to have gone through. I recently installed Debian 2.0 on my Pentium 233 MMX with 64 MB SDRAM, with an S3d ViRGE/DX 375 VGA card with 4 MB DRAM and a Samsung SyncMaster 4Ne monitor (though I don't think the monitor has anything to do with it). I installed XFree86, running the SVGA server in S3 ViRGE mode, with no options, at 1024x768 resolution, 24 bpp. Sometimes when I switch from X to a virtual console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, the virtual console starts substituting some characters for others. This happens on all the virtual consoles, not just the one I first switched to. I have tried tset and reset, to no effect. The only solution is to reboot. For example, the sentence the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog looks like $he !%ick bo'n fo( j%m # oe $he la*) dog. They are all printable ASCII characters from the same font. It seems that the text-mode display of the video card is messed up. Can anyone help me? ADVthanksANCE Ruchira Datta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: expect script with ppp and stty forces reboot
I talk with the modem in the expect script as follows: system stty 38400 -echoe -echo raw /dev/ttyS1 /dev/ttyS1 spawn -noecho -open [open /dev/ttyS1 r+] Why do you need to do this? Pppd will just reconfigure the serial port to its satisfaction when it comes up. If you are just using the expect script to dial and negotiate a connection, it would be much easier to use pppd's 'connect' option. One way to do this is to create a file in /etc/ppp/peers/ just like the ones pppconfig makes (naming it 'my_office', for example), but replace connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider with connect /usr/bin/expect /etc/chatscripts/my_office Then you will be able to connect to your office with 'pon my_office' and disconnect with 'poff'. overlay -0 $spawn_id -1 $spawn_id /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 38400 Do you really need to run as slow as 38400? This works fine (as far as I can tell), but after disconnecting using poff,... Which kills pppd, causing it to put the serial port back the way it found it, i.e., as your stty command set it up. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: finding a package name given a filename
*- Eric Jacoboni wrote about Re: finding a package name given a filename Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't you want to know on what package was as86 extracted!? as86 belongs to the bin86 package !! I think that's what you want! Yep, you're right ;-) _But_ try to do a : $ dpkg -S xemacs And you will see all an unnecessary garbage instead of just the package name from which the xemacs executable has been extracted... The problem with a lot of packages is that the executable is linked from a shorter name, and the links are not part of the package but are created in the postinst scripts. The xemacs example is a really good one. /usr/bin/xemacs - /etc/alternatives/xemacs /etc/alternatives/xemacs - /usr/bin/xemacs20 /usr/bin/xemacs20 - /etc/alternatives/xemacs20 /etc/alternatives/xemacs20 - /usr/bin/xemacs-20.4-nomule (finally!!!) So doing a 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/xemacs' would not work because /usr/bin/xemacs is actually not in the xemacs20-nomule package but is created after the package is extracted. Nevermind, i've resolved the problem : $ dpkg -S xemacs|grep '/usr/bin/xemacs' xemacs20-nomule: /usr/bin/xemacs-20.4-nomule or, $ dpkg -S as86 |grep `which as86` bin86: /usr/bin/as86 That's ok for me... Thanks again. You can skip the grep % dpkg -S `which as86` bin86: /usr/bin/as86 which means you can just enter the full path. % dpkg -S /usr/bin/as86 bin86: /usr/bin/as86 -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: linuxconf
Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone succesfully installed linuxconf on debian? If yes, is it worth it? I would be more interested in webmin http://www.webmin.com/webmin which looks very interesting. There is only a Debian 1.3 version available; *not* a deb package -- seems no one was interested to package it ... Has someone tried out webmin on a Debian 2 system? (I am for much a newbie in system administration to try it out more than installing it and looking at it's great looking web interface.) Greetings, joachim
Compress
Anyone know where I can get 'compress' program? TIA, Andrew ___ Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
problems with read()
Hi! I'm in the need of tracing a read(). After creating a socket (socket+bind+listen) I make a telnet call the machine+port and after the first read(), the program fails at it. More exactly I get a errno that says: Invalid argument And the exact call is: cont=read(sd, line, max-longitud-1); I've tripled checked the arguments with gdb and all of them are what read expects. sd is the value given by bind(), line is a char * with allocated memory and max-longitud-1 is long. I've casted all to their man specifications to no avail. Does anybody know what's going here? TIA! Salutacions, Pere __oUltima Ratio Regum 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key available --- (_)/ (_) http://casal.upc.es/~pere/
LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 and Hamm
I am putting together a PPro machine to do some IPMasquerading on a DSL line, using Hamm from some CDs that I have. I have two LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 cards with LC82C169 chips on them. I installed one to start off with, selected the Tulip module, and continued along with the install. For some reason, once the machine rebooted and the tulip module was up, the card seems to be broadcasting (?) or something, and continues to do so every few seconds. I have a little 5 port 10Base hub (also from LinkSys) that I've been using for a while, and the port that it is plugged in to lights up furiously for a few seconds and the collision light comes on, then it stops doing that and waits, and repeats. I tried setting a module option to force a 10BaseT connection (I was reading the tulip page at http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html and set options=0 and options=4, with no effect on 0 and continuous failures, without a pause between them, with options=4) with no positive effect. Has anyone used this type of card successfully? Suggestions? I chose this card since it was cheap... $30 each, and eventually that 10Bast hub will become a 100BaseT hub... Thanks for any input Dan Hugo
Re: problems with read()
I'm in the need of tracing a read(). After creating a socket (socket+bind+listen) I make a telnet call the machine+port and after the first read(), the program fails at it. More exactly I get a errno that says: Invalid argument And the exact call is: cont=read(sd, line, max-longitud-1); I've tripled checked the arguments with gdb and all of them are what read expects. sd is the value given by bind(), line is a char * with Since you have a server socket, sd should be a value returned by accept(). Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+
