isdn
Hola a todos Haber me dar un ayuda Tengo el Citius 2.1y tengo RSDITeles 16.3c PNP lo cualya hecho esto modprobe hisax type = 14 protocol=2 io=0.0580 irq=10 me pone que ya esta instada como tengo que hacer para conectarme Un Saludo de Benet
Re: Netscape hambriento de memoria.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : El día Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:31:55 -0500, Ugo Enrico Albarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] se animó a decir: [...] :: Mi unica esperanza es que salga una nueva version con estos :: fallos corregidos. Ugo:: Esa es mi esperanza, tambien... :o) La mía es la de que se corrija el famoso error de bus (o lo que sea) que hace que a veces, cuando cierras una ventana de Netscape, se cierren todas las abiertas. Pero lo de la memoria no sé... Ahora tengo abierto el Communicator con cinco ventanas y `sólo' me ocupa 9352k. Que version usas? Yo utilizo la 4.61 para glibc y me ha pasado tambien con la 4.6 y la 4.5 (o algo asi). Es glib o libc5? Hasta mas bits, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida
RE: TrueType Super-mini-howto
-Mensaje original- De: Jon Noble [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: sábado 24 de julio de 1999 15:19 Para: Ricardo Villalba Asunto: Re: TrueType Super-mini-howto [sobre el xfstt] Sólo me ha quedado una cuestión que no entiendo, a ver si me la aclaras: $ xset +fp unix/:7101 está claro que el comando xset +fp xxx es para añadir un path de fuentes. Pero ¿qué significa lo de unix/:7101? Es para decirle en qué tipo de puerto y número está escuchando el servidor de fuentes truetype. Puedes insalarlo en un socket UNIX o puedes instalarlo en un socket TCP/IP. Si arrancas el xfstt y luego haces $netstat -a Verás que una de las entradas de los sockets unix se corresponde con el puerto 7101, que es el que ha pillado el servidor de fuentes truetype para escuchar peticiones de fuentes por parte de las X. Podéis usar también para las X las fuentes que vienen con el ghostscript y las que vienen con el TeX. Id a http://m3d.uib.es/bulma2/ (el site de nuestro LUG en Palma de Mallorca) para ver un artículo de cómo hacerlo (supongo que sobre las 11:00am de hoy ya estará posteado). Para usar las de ghostscript es fácil, ya que vienen con el fichero fonts.dir ya hecho, basta con añadir el path /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 (o donde sea que están las fuentes gscript en Debian (archivos *.pfb)) al path de fuentes que hay en XF86Config (en la RedHat es algo más complicado,porque tiene los ficheros de configuración distribuídos por medio disco duro). Para usar las de TeX, es necesario un programa llamado type1inst. Más info en el artículo en cuestión. Un saludo, Jon Antonio Tejada Lacaci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depto. Análisis y Programación Banca March S.A.
CITIUS DEBIAN + MICROSTATION 95
Hola a todos, Para instalar el microstation utilicé la libc5, pero cuando estoy en las X y ejecuto /usr/ustation/ustation. Siempre de todas, todas me dice. Can´t load LibX11.so.6 ¿Alguien lo ha instalado? Un saludo. Angel
Re: isdn
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Benet wrote: Hola a todos Haber me dar un ayuda Tengo el Citius 2.1y tengo RSDITeles 16.3c PNP lo cualya hecho esto modprobe hisax type = 14 protocol=2 io=0.0580 irq=10 me pone que ya esta instada como tengo que hacer para conectarme Un Saludo de Benet La tarjeta Teles 16.3c aun debe considerarse experimental. Comprueba las etiquetas exactas que figuran en los chips de tu tarjeta. El driver actual solo funcionará si tu tarjeta tiene una (HFC-S) Si tienes una (HFC-SP) o una (HFC-S+) significa que todavía no está soportada aunque podría estarlo en el próximo kernel ya que cuando yo pregunté parecía que era cuestion de poco tiempo. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ Comoooll ?Que No TasEnterao? Pues suscribete al tablón de anuncios de Linux. Solo tienes que hacer lo siguiente: /\ /\ \\W// mail -s subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _|0 0|_ ^^ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+
Re: TrueType Super-mini-howto
Ricardo Villalba wrote: Usar fuentes TrueType es sencillísimo en la debian slink, pero como la documentación del xfstt no lo explica muy claro me he decidido a escribir el pequeño howto que incluyo. ¡Hola! Tras aplicar las instrucciones que adjuntabas me encuentro con el siguiente problema: Cuando cargo el daemon no parece haber ningún problema: Reloading X True Type Font Server configuration...Stopping X TrueType Font Server: xfstt. xfstt: sync in directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/. Found 86 fonts. Starting X TrueType Font Server: xfstt. Sin embargo, cuando intento cargar las fuentes me encuentro con el siguiente mensaje: xset: bad font path element (#3), possible causes are: Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions Directory missing fonts.dir Incorrect font server address or syntax ¿Alguien me puede echar una mano? Saludos
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Error smail
Hola a todos/as: Tengo un grave problema que no me permite enviar el correo, el log de smail me dice esto: 07/25/1999 11:15:13 [m117643DV-000124] Deferred To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER smart_host TRANSPORT=smtp ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND server failure: Connection timed out Puedo conectar y navegar perfectamente, no he tocado nada de la configuración de smail, y puedo recoger el correo y las news, pero la cola no se procesa. La única modificación que he hecho en mi equipo fue recompilar el kernel para instalar un controladora scsi (Advansys ABP3925 PCI) para una grabadora de cd's y reasignar la IRQ de la tarjeta de red por conflicto con la controladora scsi, pero creo que esto no tenga nada que ver, pues la red funciona bien y la grabadora tb. He provado con un kernel 'de reserva' que tengo, sin la scsi, como lo tenia antes, y nada. He estado mirando la documentacion, pero mi deficiente ingles no me permite encontrar alguna pista para solucionarlo, y tampoco soy ningún experto. Como veis envio esto desde güin. ¿Qué puedo hacer? Gracias por todo. -- Salut!! Juanjo Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://juanjoms.helide.com -- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/8904 [Por favor quita NOSPAM para responder]
Portatil para Debian
Hola listeros: Voy a comprarme un portátil en el que, como no, instalaré Debian, pero tengo una duda sobre cual elegir. Los que más interesantes me parecen son estos: - HYUNDAI HN-6000: AMD K6-2 400 MHz (Mobile), 64 Mb, HD 6,4 Gb, pantalla LCD XGA 13,3 TFT, tarj. gráfica 4 Mb, tarj. sonido 3D (altavoces), CD-ROM 24x, disquetera, batería Ion-Litio, puestos serie, paralelo USB... -AHEAD OPTIMA PRESAGE 400 Intel Celeron 400 Mhz, 128 Mb, HD de 4,2Gb, pantalla LCD 14,1 TFT, tarj. grafica ATI LT Pro AGP 2x 8 Mb, tarj.sonido 3d Vbx, bateria Ion-Litio, ranuras PCMCIA, puertos serie, paralelo, USB, ps/2, ... Os estaría muy agradecida si me echarais una mano, sobre cual de ellos correría mejor con Debian Linux, o si me haceis alguna otra sugerencia. Saludos, Saioa.
Re: Netscape, cucu... ¡tas!
Jaime E. Villate escribió: Alberto Valverde: Tengo slink con Netscape 4.5. Cuando estoy usandolo (gnome+icewm-gnome), especialmente cuando lo estoy usando mucho, se vá. Me abandona. Desaparece. ¡Puf!. Bien, como supongo que no es culpa de Debian, Pues a mi me pasa exactamente lo mismo desde que instalé gnome hace un par de dias. No uso icewm como tu, sino wmaker y enlightenment. Creo que el problema es con alguna de las librerias que tuve que actualizar cuando instalé gnome. Hace un año me paso algo semejante y como tu, me puse a buscar substitutos de netscape; después de algún tiempo volví a usar netscape y el problema desapareció con nuevas versiónes de xlib (o era libc? ya no me acuerdo). Te sugiero que intentes descubrir que fué lo que instalaste cuando comenzó a fallar netscape (yo haré lo mismo y el que descubra algo le cuenta al otro); otra alternativa seria instalar netscape 4.6. Jaime -- Siento que haya tardado tanto la respuesta, pero he estado fuera. Gnome no me da mucha confianza -aún-, pero el caso es que aún no he conseguido tener un Netscape configurado en condiciones. Con la hamm se me colgaba 8-!, y ahora se me esfuma. Yo personalmente no he tenido que reinstalar ninguna librería, porque instalé la slink de la Linux Actual (cuasi-Citius) y luego el Netscape sin problemas. Pero se vá. Por eso dudo que sea problema de librerías (se supone a la slink estable, y por tanto a las librerías tb). Seguramente el Netscape esté buggy. He podido descubir una manera de hacerlo petar siempre: seleccionando los iconos tipo 'mailto' de las páginas web. El resto es un enigma para mí... ¿De dónde se puede bajar la última versión rapidito?. - a ver si esa no peta. --Un saludo, -- - Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Telefónica es barata, por el monte la sardina TraLaRaaa!! #
Re: Busco programas para Internet en modo texto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : El d=EDa Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:30:33 +0200, Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] contaba: attachments en un fichero y verlos despu=E9s con el programa adecuado. Puedes utilizar nmh, por ejemplo, o pine, o Gnus (en Emacs/XEmacs), etc. Si utilizas Gnus, podr=E1s ver directamente los mensajes en html (utiliza w3). ¿Como...? bueno yo hace poco que uso Gnus, y todavia no me ha dado tiempo a configurarlo bien y leerme todo el manual, pero si que me interesa la parte de visualizar los mime. Er... Gnus en Emacs/XEmacs es probablemente el mejor lector de noticias (y programa de correo) que existe, aunque dicen por ah=ED que pine va muy bien, y slrn, y tienes tin, trn... Para mi si, es una verdadera maravilla la potencia que te da, para el manejo de listas etc... Gracias
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Re: Netscape hambriento de memoria.
: En el artículo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jose Luis Trivino [EMAIL PROTECTED] decía: Jose:: Que version usas? Yo utilizo la 4.61 para glibc y me Jose:: ha pasado tambien con la 4.6 y la 4.5 (o algo asi). Es glib Jose:: o libc5? Según netscape -v: Netscape 4.07/Export, 29-Sep-98; (c) 1995-1998 Netscape Communications Corp. En los paquetes de Debian es netscape-base-407 (base y todo lo demás), que están numerados como 4.07-1. Un saludo. -- RESET
Las X no inician con una tarjeta STB LightSpeed 3300
Recientemente he canviado mi tarjeta S3 por una aceleradora 3D, una STB LightSpeed 3300 con 16MB conectado en un Slot AGP y las X no inician. Solo consigo iniciar con un servidor VGA a 16 colores. Que puedo hacer para a lo peor conseguir q funcione como una SVGA (he intentado poner un servidor SVGA y no va). Muchas gracias.
Re: Portatil para Debian
El lun, jul 26, 1999 at 04:13:50 +0100 Saioa Perurena va dir: Hola listeros: hola, qué tal Voy a comprarme un portátil en el que, como no, instalaré Debian, pero tengo una duda sobre cual elegir. Los que más interesantes me parecen son estos: - HYUNDAI HN-6000: AMD K6-2 400 MHz (Mobile), 64 Mb, HD 6,4 Gb, pantalla LCD XGA 13,3 TFT, tarj. gráfica 4 Mb, tarj. sonido 3D (altavoces), CD-ROM 24x, disquetera, batería Ion-Litio, puestos serie, paralelo USB... -AHEAD OPTIMA PRESAGE 400 Intel Celeron 400 Mhz, 128 Mb, HD de 4,2Gb, pantalla LCD 14,1 TFT, tarj. grafica ATI LT Pro AGP 2x 8 Mb, tarj.sonido 3d Vbx, bateria Ion-Litio, ranuras PCMCIA, puertos serie, paralelo, USB, ps/2, ... ten cuidado con los modelos clónicos de portátil demasiado baratos o con los últimos modelos con excesivas features (no suelen estar soportadas por linux: ojo con los winmodem, con las tarjetas de sonido o tarjetas gráficas no soportadas por linux): asegúrate también de que el micro sea mobile, o sea diseñado específicamente para portátiles (el Ahead, por ejemplo, ¿que micro lleva?). te será muy útil darte una vuelta por: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ es una página específica de portátiles con linux y se describen un montón de modelos, lo que te ayudará a saber si el hardware del modelo que escojas está ya soportado o no en linux. HTH miquel Os estaría muy agradecida si me echarais una mano, sobre cual de ellos correría mejor con Debian Linux, o si me haceis alguna otra sugerencia. Saludos, Saioa. -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ / / / // |/ // / / / \ \/ / cooperación contra mando / /_ / // /| // /_/ / \ / www.sindominio.net /___//_//_/ |_/ \// \ Powered by Debian GNU/LiNuX /_/\_\ Linux Reg. User #128019
Re: Free Software en España [Era: Re: Perdonar pero no me aclaro]
El 24 Jul 1999 a las 04:15PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribio: : En el artículo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Miquel [EMAIL PROTECTED] decía: La GPL no es aplicable a Europa tal como está debido a las diferencias que existen entre la normativa europea (habría que tomar cada Estado en consideración, pero debido las distintas leyes se han uniformado mucho en los últimos años con la actuación de las instituciones de la Unión) y la estadounidense. ... La GPL tiene una cláusula muy parecida, al decir que el software se entrega `AS IS' y que el distribuidor, redistribuidor, etc. no se hace responsable de los daños. En el sistema estadounidense la legislación de protección del consumidor (hasta donde yo sé) no es demasiado exigente, pero en Europa no se puede ni soñar con que una cláusula semejante tenga efecto sin más. Todo el mundo sabe (gente de Derecho, quiero decir) que se sobreentiende la coletilla: `en la extensión permitida por la ley'. Otra cosa es que el programa se entrega gratuitamente, se advierte al posible usuario, etc., pero aún así, habría que ver si un tribunal lo deja pasar. Por supuesto, esto sería la muerte del software libre. Y suma y sigue... Voy a terminar ya, aunque estoy dispuesto a seguir ampliando/comentando/aclarando si lo consideráis de interés. Yo de leyes, lo justito. Pero se me ocurre que con este tremendo thread que se ha montado con las licencias, el tema es suficientemente grade e importante como para que hubiera que replantearse, revisar, etc. este tema de la GPL en España y en toda Europa. No parece correcto usar licencias que en nuestro pais no suponen legalmente lo mismo que en EEUU sin saber exactamente lo que suponen. Habría que hacer una traducción interpretada de las licencias al menos para saber a qué atenernos en nuestro entorno, y quizá, una globaliza- ción de la GPL para abarcar los mayores ambitos juriídicos posible, o al menos los más comunes. Saludos. -- -- Andres Seco Hernandez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh urgente: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist MCP ID 445900 Debian GNU Linux 2.0 (hamm) - Linux Registered User no. 113867 -- 07/26 Bilbo rescued from Wargs by Eagles (LOTR) pgpQ2UF611QyV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Acentuação na Debian 2.X
Paulo Henrique B de Oliveira wrote: Oi, estou usando agora o libX11 do Quinot. Está funcionando perfeito aqui em casa com a slink. Alguém, tem outras idéias? Precisamos disso para a Debian em português. Abraços,PH Estou usando um roteiro que alguem me passou, mas eu não lembro quem foi... Me parece o mais simples para ser usado no Debian. Aí vai: --- Pequeno roteiro de como acentuar no Debian 2.0 Essa é uma pequena descrição de como fazer para acentuar e foi feita baseada em um sistema usando Linux 2.0.35 Debian 2.0. Para outros sistemas a forma varia de acordo com os arquivos de configuração, mas o básico não muda muito. Essa solucao foi sugerida a tempos atras na linux-br por Fernando Cesar Carreira ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) e apenas adaptada para a distribuicao Debian.(jclaudio) Olá Pessoal Estou inscrito na lista há alguns meses mas por enquanto somente escutei as mensagens, porém o assunto de acentuação é muito importante para nós que falamos o Português e nesse assunto efetuei alguns progressos e quero compartilhar com todos, ainda mais que meu nome foi citado acima (o endereço de e-mail foi mudado ok?). Em primeiro lugar, obtenha o documento Linux Portuguese-HOWTO, de Carlos A.M. dos Santos (atualmente na versão 3.2, de 24/05/99), endereço http://linusp.usp.br/~casantos/ O documento está muito bem produzido e praticamente resolve muitos problemas relacionados com acentuação, seja na console ou no ambiente X11. Possui links com os arquivos de configuração e mapas de teclado mencionados no documento além de outras coisas. Realmente, leitura obrigatória para se resolver a questão. Na questão das configurações, aborda a diferença da localização dos vários arquivos entre as distribuições (sim, nossa Debian está incluída). Creio que o maior problema está baseado na acentuação no X. Recomendo a solução da biblioteca Xlib modificada conforme mencionado acima pelo Paulo. Porém, existe uma pequena coisinha: a página original da solução adotada (http://web.fdn.fr/~tquinot/dead-keys.en.html) traz o arquivo da biblioteca Xlib do sistema XFree86 da versão 3.3.1 e nosso Debian utiliza a versão 3.3.2.3 . Para contornar, eu recompilei os pacotes do sistema XFree86 da distribuição Slink aplicando o patch do Quinot e posso dizer que foi a melhor solução. Consegui acentuação normal no Netscape Communicator versões 4.07, 4.08, 4.5, 4.6 e 4.61 ; StarOffice 5.1 ; diversos programas do X (ex.: xedit) e acredito que não haverá problemas com o Corel WordPerfect 8 (não instalei no meu sistema). Informo que utilizo o teclado US Internacional mas fiz testes com o teclado ABNT, apurando o mesmo resultado. Por tudo isso, recomento essa solução. Os pacotes foram recompilados e possuo-os guardados no meu computador. Basicamente, você precisará instalar o pacote xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-11_i386.deb e acredito que seja também necessário o pacote xlib6_3.3.2.3a-11_i386.deb (esse pacote possui as biliotecas do X compiladas com a libc5 e a libc5 deve estar instalada para que o Wordperfect funcione). Se alguém quiser colocá-los em alguma homepage, me peçam que mando, mas por favor, não peçam para eu enviar para o endereço particular de cada um (haja conexão, pois os arquivos têm mais de 700 kb de tamanho). Ah, se alguém está usando a distribuição Potato, também recompilei os pacotes do XFree86 3.3.3.1 (construção 10 do fonte). Bem, se alguém tiver alguma dúvida a respeito disso, podem contar comigo, mas não se esqueçam de seguir as instruções do Linux Portuguese-HOWTO, ok ? Um abraço a todos Fernando
RES: Alguém de Portugal na Lista
De: Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Leandro Dutra escreveu: pt = Será utilizada a tradução de Nuno (Portugal) Como filho de professores de Português, até simpatizo com a decisão porque provavelmente o texto do Português europeu será mais castiço que o do Português brasileiro; mas em termos de quantidade de usuários, será que pt não deveria mapear-se para pt_BR? ... Esse pt= que dizer o seguinte: Se não for definido o código do País e somente o código da Linguagem, o idioma selecionado será o Português de Portugal. Mas isto não traz nenhum problema porque o DebianDoc usa a variável LANG (pt_BR por exemplo, que é a utilizada nos nossos computadores do Brasil) para selecionar o idioma na compilação dos documentos. ;) Tudo bem, mas pensado em usuários menos espertos ou expertos, talvez alguns usem export LANG=pt e achem estranho quando vierem instruções para abrir ficheiros em vez de arquivos... Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs (Brasil) Ltda
Re: RES: Alguém de Portugal na Lista
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:57:39AM -0300, Leandro Dutra wrote: Tudo bem, mas pensado em usuários menos espertos ou expertos, talvez alguns usem export LANG=pt e achem estranho quando vierem instruções para abrir ficheiros em vez de arquivos... O mesmo pode ocorrer com usuarios portugueses se o Default for o pt_BR... --macan
RES: RES: Alguém de Portugal na Lista
Tudo bem, mas pensado em usuários menos espertos ou expertos, talvez alguns usem export LANG=pt e achem estranho quando vierem instruções para abrir ficheiros em vez de arquivos... O mesmo pode ocorrer com usuarios portugueses se o Default for o pt_BR... Por isso mesmo que eu disse que talvez o fator devesse ser estatístico. Talvez fizesse mais sentido ter como padrão o que atenderia a maioria dos usuários. Com o perdão aos amigos lusitanos pelo nosso Português impuro... Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs (Brasil) Ltda
Re: Acentuação na Debian 2.X
Fernando Cesar Carreira wrote: Estou usando um roteiro que alguem me passou, mas eu não lembro quem foi... Me parece o mais simples para ser usado no Debian. Aí vai: Creio que o maior problema está baseado na acentuação no X. Recomendo a solução da biblioteca Xlib modificada conforme mencionado acima pelo Paulo. Porém, existe uma pequena coisinha: a página original da solução adotada (http://web.fdn.fr/~tquinot/dead-keys.en.html) traz o arquivo da biblioteca Xlib do sistema XFree86 da versão 3.3.1 e nosso Debian utiliza a versão 3.3.2.3 . Para contornar, eu recompilei os pacotes do sistema XFree86 da distribuição Slink aplicando o patch do Quinot e posso dizer que foi a melhor solução. Consegui acentuação normal no Netscape Communicator versões 4.07, 4.08, 4.5, 4.6 e 4.61 ; StarOffice 5.1 ; diversos programas do X (ex.: xedit) e acredito que não haverá problemas com o Corel WordPerfect 8 (não instalei no meu sistema). Eu acho essa solução ruim. Não vejo solução mais simples que o roteiro que eu sugeri acima (http://www.infohouse.com.br/usuarios/jclaudio/debian.html ) , sem precisar compilar qualquer biblioteca. Basicamente você só precisa adicionar XkbDisable no XF86Config e os acentos já passam a funcionar, com exceção do ç e outros detalhes, que precisam ser alterado no Compose. Eu consigo acentuar em qualquer programa do X se compilar nada para isso, somente com aquelas alterações de configuração. []'s áéíóúÁÉÍÓÚàèìòùÀÈÌÒÙâêîôûÂÊÎÔÛäëïöüÄËÏÖÜãõñÃÕÑçÇ - Tá faltando algum?!?! :)
Netscape - Fontsizes
Hi folks, Does anybod know how to set the default fontsize in netscape? If I use Edit/Preferences/Fonts it works for the current session but it is not saved even Netscape doesn't crash and I exit as intended by the Netscape-programmers :-C Is it possible to use a minimum fontsize that FONT SIZE=-3 will be radable while a H1 letter will not fill the whole screen? Bernhard -- __ ___ // )___---. \ |,( /`-- `. Bernhard Rieder \/ o\ ( _.-. ,'; mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ /`. \ , / | | \ ' .'`.; | | \.___ _-'.'| |--..,,,\_\-~ ''' _-'.' ___- ) ''''''---~
Re: Haunting still... (need PPP help)
The problem was that I ran my own nameserver locally, and that was listed first in resolv.conf. Even with the ppp link up, I'd prefer all DNS lookups to hit the local server first You can edit the resolv.conf for each provider in /etc/ppp/resolv . have the new dns numbers appended to the list, rather than replacing it. The problem with this is that the resolver will only look at the first three nameserver lines. I'd have to do some fancy parsing to decide just where to insert the new nameservers so that they will be useful but not in the way. You might want to take a look at the source for the pcmcia modules. IIRC, they insert and remove dns numbers from resolv.conf when the network card is plugged in. They use markers to delineate what they added (something like '## inserted by cardmgr ##') I try to avoid schemes like this. They place restrictions on the file layout beyond those imposed by the package owner. It seems to me that you would want your named updated to use the current ISP's nameservers as forwarders, but I'm not sure how to handle it. There is a similar problem with nscd. Do you have any ideas? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Out of memory when upgrading package
I upgraded several potato packages today and when apt-get was trying to install xcontrib it gave an out of memory error. The load was quite high, sometimes over 2.0 and most of my 64 MB of RAM and all my 130 MB of swap was in use. Needless to say, the system was extremely sluggish and several attempts to do anything resulted in segfaults. I was able to kill the processes with ctrl-c (it appears to have been in the post-removal script for the previous version at this point). apt-get clean doesn't report any problems and dpkg still reports the previous version is installed. Is there anything I should do at this point? Bob -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Boot Up Problem
I switched from RH5.2 to Debian 2.1 the other night and I did a Kernelupgradge (2.2.10) and I noticed my sound wasn't working. I looked in/var/log/messages and found that the problem wasn't the kernel or modules.After LILO boots up, i saw an error message unable to load map file Andit was still looking for the old modules with the older kernel... and itwasn't finding the map file w/ the older kernel, but it was loading themodules. At first I thought it was my setup (I have 2 h/d's... one w/Windows (master) and Debian (slave) ) but then i remembered it did the samething on my other computer. It was an older machine... 800MB h/d and itcouldn't find the map file with the kernel, so i tried upgrading to 2.2.6and it still did it. It was installed off the same Debian multi cd set.. (idownloaded the isos from a mirrored site). Any suggestions? Everyone I askhas never heard of this...And Yes... the map file exists as /boot/map and in /etc/lilo.conf i havemap=/boot/map as the 3rd line.Thanks in advance,Jon
Incredibly basic dopey question
Does Slink use glibc? Or libc5 (or is it lib6)? *Is* lib6 glibc? confused Thanx. -- Revenant [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak. - author Robert A. Heinlein on censorship.
Re: Networking ~ peer to peer
Martin writes:
[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
So no, not unless you set a gateway.
While it is true that the 2.1 install does ask about the gateway, the
frequency with which people with small private LANs find themselves unable
to get ppp working because they have default routes they don't need
indicates that this part of the install is still confusing. It still leads
the new user to believe that she must choose between a LAN connection and
ppp, for example.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
Re: Incredibly basic dopey question
*- On 26 Jul, Revenant wrote about Incredibly basic dopey question Does Slink use glibc? Or libc5 (or is it lib6)? *Is* lib6 glibc? confused Yes(v2.0). It's libc6 not lib6. Yes libc6 is a.k.a. glibc. ^ -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Incredibly basic dopey question
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 11:06:13AM +1000, Revenant wrote: Does Slink use glibc? Or libc5 (or is it lib6)? *Is* lib6 glibc? Slink uses glibc, which is libc6. It also provides compatibility libraries for libc5 and a development environment, although this doesn't include all libraries. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpqobF5A11Zm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Incredibly basic dopey question
Thanx all for the prompt response. You've been very helpful. -- Revenant [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak. - author Robert A. Heinlein on censorship.
dtd for presentations (and tools)
Hi, I'm looking for a dtd an related tools for formating ( PostScript and HTML. RTF is a plus ) for presententions a la PowerPoint. Thanks. -- __ Felipe Alvarez Harnecker. QlSoftware. Tel. 09.874.60.17 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potenciado por Ql/Linux http://www.qlsoft.cl __
file extensions
I am using slink and gnome, and I have a two questions. First of all, How can I add a mime using the gnome control center. Some of my mp3's are .MP3 and therefor not recognized as a music file. Question two, related to that, is this: is there an easy way ( a quick command or script) to covert all the .MP3's to .mp3. Strangly enough mv doesn't differentiate between .mp3 and .MP3, so I need to change the name to a temporary file first, which makes the task all the more annoying. -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
idiot's question on hooking up ISP
i follow instructions in ISP-Hookup-HOWTO and edit various files. Then I use seyon to dial a number. I manually login, then garbage appears on the terminal. What should i do next? How do I start PPP? Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I will leave the list in a minute.
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Re: idiot's question on hooking up ISP
On 26 Jul, a wrote: | i follow instructions in ISP-Hookup-HOWTO and edit various files. | Then I use seyon to dial a number. I manually login, then garbage | appears on the terminal. What should i do next? How do I start PPP? Ignore what you just read (well, not completely), run pppconfig, then type pon. Some of those HOWTOs are a little dated. Although, it sounds like you got halfway there. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: file extensions
*- On 30 Jul, Aaron Solochek wrote about file extensions are .MP3 and therefor not recognized as a music file. Question two, related to that, is this: is there an easy way ( a quick command or script) to covert all the .MP3's to .mp3. Strangly enough mv doesn't differentiate between .mp3 and .MP3, so I need to change the name to a temporary file first, which makes the task all the more annoying. I'll answer question 2. Install the package mmv. Read the mmv man page. Then the following will move all *.MP3 to *.mp3 in the current directory. mmv '*.MP3' '#1.mp3' -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Help with mounting a Xenix drive
I am upgrading a Xenix computer with Linux. I have seen in the mount that I can mount this drive and I would like to do that so I can copy the data off the drive. But it does not work. I am just typing: insmod sysv mount -t sysv /dev/hdd4 /mnt This should work to my knowledge but it errors saying that it cannot read the superblock. I am using debian slink and redhat 5.2. I have access to a SCO machine but I would have to re-write a drive table on it and that might overwrite the data (according to their WEB site.). Please help. -- Brian Schramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sgmltools and non-english stylesheets
Hi, I want to produce a Spanish html document from a sgml (docbook) one. I've seen many international stylesheets under /usr/lib/sgml/stylesheet/dsssl/docbook/nwalsh/html/ but nor sgmtools nor jade have an option to set the language. Please Help. -- __ Felipe Alvarez Harnecker. QlSoftware. Tel. 09.874.60.17 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potenciado por Ql/Linux http://www.qlsoft.cl __
Re: Help with mounting a Xenix drive
On 25 Jul, Brian Schramm wrote: | I am upgrading a Xenix computer with Linux. I have seen in the mount that I | can mount this drive and I would like to do that so I can copy the data off the | drive. But it does not work. I am just typing: | | insmod sysv | mount -t sysv /dev/hdd4 /mnt Are you sure you have support for sysv/xenix/coherent compiled as a module? It wouldn't be the default to have support for xenix, AFAIK. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: Help with mounting a Xenix drive
Perhaps the kernel does not have Xenix drive fs support compiled in. Try recompiling the kernel with Xenix fs support. Brian Schramm wrote: I am upgrading a Xenix computer with Linux. I have seen in the mount that I can mount this drive and I would like to do that so I can copy the data off the drive. But it does not work. I am just typing: insmod sysv mount -t sysv /dev/hdd4 /mnt This should work to my knowledge but it errors saying that it cannot read the superblock. I am using debian slink and redhat 5.2. I have access to a SCO machine but I would have to re-write a drive table on it and that might overwrite the data (according to their WEB site.). Please help. -- Brian Schramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: file extensions
This worked in my test directory, but once I became root and tried it, it seemed to only mess with my locate command I say this because before running it locate *.MP3 would result in a quick list of these files. But after running that command in a directory with .MP3's, typing locate *.MP3 slowly scrolls out the list of .MP3's in that directory. locate .MP3 works fine, but mmv did alter the behaviour locate. Also updatedb gave me this when it finished. updatedb (wd: /mp3/U2/U2 Greatest Hits) (wd now: /mp3/Pearl Jam) Where these paths are the ones I tried the mmv command in. What happened? -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Servis wrote: *- On 30 Jul, Aaron Solochek wrote about file extensions are .MP3 and therefor not recognized as a music file. Question two, related to that, is this: is there an easy way ( a quick command or script) to covert all the .MP3's to .mp3. Strangly enough mv doesn't differentiate between .mp3 and .MP3, so I need to change the name to a temporary file first, which makes the task all the more annoying. I'll answer question 2. Install the package mmv. Read the mmv man page. Then the following will move all *.MP3 to *.mp3 in the current directory. mmv '*.MP3' '#1.mp3' -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: newbie debian questions
Anybody can help me out? ps top xmkmf or tell me how can I find them? ps and top are in procps, and xmkmf is in xlib6g-dev. You can find this out quicker by going to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and typing !find ps !find xmkmf, etc. -- Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org/ The Web is to graphic design as the fax machine is to literature.
HP LaserJet 2100TN question
I have this printer hooked up to my ethernet network, and everything works great (I was actually amazed at how easy it was to configure everything... from box to printing in about 20 minutes... great printer!) My question, though, is how to make use of the features of the 2100. That is, I have a third paper tray... how to I tell it which to use? How can I change the resolutions (max is 1200dpi), or whatever other features are available to change? I have searched all over, and I can't seem to find anything on HPs site, HOWTOs, newsgroups, etc, regarding this. I did see a mention of WebJet from HP (I have a built-in JetDirect ethernet device for the printer), but that sounded more like printer administration (accounting, passwords, trouble reports, etc). I am looking for some command line option or filter setting or whatever that allows me to change these things (by the way, it supports postscript, so I have been printing to the raw device with no troubles... should I have a filter in there?) Thanks for any thoughts. Dan Hugo
Large disk question-partition larger than disk
I have read the Large Disk Mini-HOWTO. I have an IBM 14GXP 14.6G EIDE drive, and when I partitioned it with cfdisk 0.81 (from slink) I had no problems creating a 10G /usr (hda1=root, hda2=swap, hda5=usr) partition. Now, though, if ever I run fdisk/cfdisk/sfdisk, they complain that partition 3 is larger than the disk itself. In reading that Mini-HOWTO, I gathered that cfdisk is supposed to be aware of the way EIDE disks larger than 8G reported sizes, but it appears that my cfdisk is using the reported size and exiting with a fatal error when hda5 is larger than the reported disk size of 1024 cylinders (the disk is about 1750, allegedly...). Do I need a later version of cfdisk? sfdisk just gives me a warning, and fdisk will perform operations on other parts of the disk (eg hda8=tmp got totally trashed on a system hang, mke2fs crashed trying to reformat that partition, so I deleted it and started that partition from scratch, with good results). I am running slink kernel 2.0.36 with SMP enabled. Thanks for any input Dan Hugo
Re: Haunting still... (need PPP help)
On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 04:21:46PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: The problem was that I ran my own nameserver locally, and that was listed first in resolv.conf. Even with the ppp link up, I'd prefer all DNS lookups to hit the local server first You can edit the resolv.conf for each provider in /etc/ppp/resolv . Ok, I didn't realize this. That would be easy enough to do, provided you didn't have dozens of peers ;) have the new dns numbers appended to the list, rather than replacing it. The problem with this is that the resolver will only look at the first three nameserver lines. I'd have to do some fancy parsing to decide just where to insert the new nameservers so that they will be useful but not in the way. Yes, I realize this. I'd probably assume that the first nameserver listed in the file would be the main local network DNS, and insert the ISP IP's right after that. However, when you stop to consider all possible variations, even that could cause problems (you know what they say about assume). Perhaps its best to leave it as is. Since most (I'm assuming again) people won't have more than one or two peers set up, its not too much to ask for them to modify the /etc/ppp/resolv files, if needed. Perhaps some documentation to that effect would be helpful... I notice that the README.gz and README.linux.gz files in /usr/doc/ppp make note of the usepeerdns option, but it doesn't seem to have made it to the manpage yet. You might want to take a look at the source for the pcmcia modules. IIRC, they insert and remove dns numbers from resolv.conf when the network card is plugged in. They use markers to delineate what they added (something like '## inserted by cardmgr ##') I try to avoid schemes like this. They place restrictions on the file layout beyond those imposed by the package owner. It seems to me that you would want your named updated to use the current ISP's nameservers as forwarders, but I'm not sure how to handle it. There is a similar problem with nscd. Do you have any ideas? Not really. I set up bind originally just because I'd never done it before, and was curious (heh.. it took 2 days even with the supplied examples to get it working right). It was overkill for a 4 machine network, and I've since removed it in favor of editing /etc/hosts on each of the machines. Over all, I'd have to say I'm NOT a bind expert :/ Mike [Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.] -- Michael Merten -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NRA Life Member -- http://www.nra.org --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug -- .. [Concerning the celebration of the 4th of July, 1811,] scarcely a word was said of the solicitude and labors and fears and sorrows and sleepless nights of the men who projected, proposed, defended, and subscribed the Declaration of Independence. Do you recollect your memorable speech upon the day on which the vote was taken? Do you recollect the pensive and awful silence which pervaded the house when we were called up, one after another, to the table of the President of Congress to subscribe what was believed by many at that time to be our own death warrants?... -- A letter from Benjamin Rush to John Adams
Re: HP LaserJet 2100TN question
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Dan Hugo wrote: My question, though, is how to make use of the features of the 2100. That is, I have a third paper tray... how to I tell it which to use? How can I change the resolutions (max is 1200dpi), or whatever other features are available to change? In postscript mode the magical features will be accessed through special device specific postscript commands. I think there is a general standard for paper trays and the like - but it will ultimately be up to the generating application... You can poke around HP's site for either information on HP Job Control or on any HP Postscript extensions. If you are priting postscript then there is an excellent chance you are already using the maximum resolution : Jason
Re: HP LaserJet 2100TN question
Hi, don't know anything about the third tray. With the resolution, you set can setup 2 entries points to the same printer but with different filters. Eg. You can add an additional entry final to your printcap file and set the resolution in the filter to 1200.(-r 1200) restart the lpd daemon, then you can print a normal copy using lpr -Php2100 or a 1200dpi copy using lpr -Pfinal Hope this helps. Shao. On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 09:02:41PM -0700, Dan Hugo wrote: I have this printer hooked up to my ethernet network, and everything works great (I was actually amazed at how easy it was to configure everything... from box to printing in about 20 minutes... great printer!) My question, though, is how to make use of the features of the 2100. That is, I have a third paper tray... how to I tell it which to use? How can I change the resolutions (max is 1200dpi), or whatever other features are available to change? I have searched all over, and I can't seem to find anything on HPs site, HOWTOs, newsgroups, etc, regarding this. I did see a mention of WebJet from HP (I have a built-in JetDirect ethernet device for the printer), but that sounded more like printer administration (accounting, passwords, trouble reports, etc). I am looking for some command line option or filter setting or whatever that allows me to change these things (by the way, it supports postscript, so I have been printing to the raw device with no troubles... should I have a filter in there?) Thanks for any thoughts. Dan Hugo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
LILO problems with new HD
Hello, I've recently discovered problems with the drive that had the /boot and /home partitions of my Debian box, so I decided to go out and get a new HD in transferring the files, I simply copied /boot/* and /home/* to the new drive, and ran lilo on it. It gave me the message that lilo was installed, and I tried rebooting. Lilo being's to load, but only goes so far as LIL- until it freezes...in the lilo docs, this says that there is some sort of corruption of the map files, or a problem with the map installer. Seeing as these copied files were from a corrupted (suspected at least) disk, I figure that's the problem. Can anyone help me in getting fresh copies of the files that LILO requires for installation? I don't know if they are custom to my setup (untouched slink kernel), or if they are generic files thatI could simply pick up somewhere off of the CD's. thanks in advance!! -lev
sound config with 2.2.10 in slink environment
Hi, all I have upgraded my 2.0.36 kernel (home compiled) to a home compiled 2.2.10 (all sources are debianized packages), and all is well (actually, remarkably faster, it seems) except for sound. I have enosniq soundscape elite ISA card, which worked under 2.0.36, after I have made a script at boot-up which initialized the card. Now that same script gives me error (both manually and at boot-up): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin# ./ssinit /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device My /dev/sndstat is completely empty, since the card is not initializing. i can supply both /etc/soundconf (which worked under 2.0.36) and my .config options for sound module (sound is compiled as a module in both old and new kernel) in 2.2.10 sources; if anyone can help. I have read HOWTOs and docs for soundscape cards at 4front technologies, but I'm afraid I can't decipher the info there to translate into my config. Also, once I have it figured out, how do I ( the Good way) insert module options into /etc/conf.modules (it says not to edit the file...)? TIA, damir P.S. since this may or may not be debian specific, could you reply to my private address instead of the list if you feel that is more appropriate
man-db mentions a number of bad Symlinks
Hello all. This is my third week to debian and 6th month to Linux, but I'm having a little problem. When I run man some file I periodically see warnings smiliar to these. man: can't open /usr/man/man8/upgrade-windowmaker-defaults.8: No such file or di rectory man: warning: /usr/man/man8/upgrade-windowmaker-defaults.8.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request About 50 or so of these warnings flash by each with a different symlink. I know what you're going to say. The file (above) upgrade-windowmaker-defaults.8.gz is obviously a dangling symlink and should be removed. I did this just a fw days ago. In fact I removed every bad symlink in each man directory, yet now they are back. It is as if man-db is doing this to me. can anyone explain what exactly man-db does. Obviously it compacts my man files. DOes it keep the originals anywhere? Anyone else have this problem?
Fw: irc.openprojects.net
ps and top are in procps, and xmkmf is in xlib6g-dev. You can find this out quicker by going to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and typing !find ps !find xmkmf, etc. i tried this but irc.openprojects.net did not seem to respond. The website at http://irc.openprojects.net has an image of two people and the title Service discontinued. Does anyone know of any other service that has this cool file to package lookup capability? -matt
Re: Fw: irc.openprojects.net
On 26 Jul, Matthew Cordes wrote: | ps and top are in procps, and xmkmf is in xlib6g-dev. You can find | this out quicker by going to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and | typing !find ps !find xmkmf, etc. | | i tried this but irc.openprojects.net did not seem to respond. The website | at http://irc.openprojects.net has an image of two people and the title | Service discontinued. | | Does anyone know of any other service that has this cool file to package | lookup capability? | | -matt | | | You can search packages on debian's website. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: Fw: irc.openprojects.net
I just got on the server, are you sure you are getting on irc correctly? Try $ irc mcordes irc.openprojects.net it worked for me (well, different nick of course) jeff On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 01:12:08AM -0400, Matthew Cordes wrote: ps and top are in procps, and xmkmf is in xlib6g-dev. You can find this out quicker by going to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and typing !find ps !find xmkmf, etc. i tried this but irc.openprojects.net did not seem to respond. The website at http://irc.openprojects.net has an image of two people and the title Service discontinued. Does anyone know of any other service that has this cool file to package lookup capability? -matt
Re: bash scripting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to put a 30 second pause in your bash script? ever RTFM for bash? it says: wait [n] Wait for the specified process and return its ter mination status. n may be a process ID or a job specification; if a job spec is given, all pro cesses in that job's pipeline are waited for. If n is not given, all currently active child processes are waited for, and the return status is zero. If n specifies a non-existent process or job, the return status is 127. Otherwise, the return status is the exit status of the last process or job waited for. ok? gerhard
Re: bash scripting
Gerhard Kroder wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to put a 30 second pause in your bash script? ever RTFM for bash? it says: wait [n] huups, guess it's me to RTFM... of course you do not need (nor is it applicable) bash's builtin wait but the commmand sleep (man sleep). gerhard
Re: bash scripting
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:18:48AM +0200, Gerhard Kroder wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to put a 30 second pause in your bash script? ever RTFM for bash? it says: wait [n] Erm, how exactly can you use this to wait for 30 seconds? I think he wants something along the lines of sleep. -- Matthew Gregan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bash scripting
ever RTFM for bash? it says: wait [n] Wait for the specified process and return its ter mination status. n may be a process ID or a job specification; if a job spec is given, all pro cesses in that job's pipeline are waited for. If n is not given, all currently active child processes are waited for, and the return status is zero. If n specifies a non-existent process or job, the return status is 127. Otherwise, the return status is the exit status of the last process or job waited for. I think sleep is the appropriate command. Methinks one should beware of using the evil RTFM term lest it turns and hits one in the face! :-)
Re: HP LaserJet 2100TN question
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Dan Hugo wrote: My question, though, is how to make use of the features of the 2100. That is, I have a third paper tray... how to I tell it which to use? How can I change the resolutions (max is 1200dpi), or whatever other features are available to change? In postscript mode the magical features will be accessed through special device specific postscript commands. I think there is a general standard for paper trays and the like - but it will ultimately be up to the generating application... You can poke around HP's site for either information on HP Job Control or on any HP Postscript extensions. If you are priting postscript then there is an excellent chance you are already using the maximum resolution : Interesting. I poked around a bit more on the HP site, but I think the easiest way to check this would be to print a document to various paper trays, etc, from Windows to a file and see if the .ps has anything interesting in it. As for the document resolution, I was assuming it was full, but I could tell if I could switch it and see the difference. I would imagine there are other things that are changable too, but I wasn't sure if they were embedded into the postscript or not. Thanks for the info Dan Hugo
Re: bash scripting
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:18:48AM +0200, Gerhard Kroder wrote: ever RTFM for bash? it says: I love how people insist on firing off this remark. It is sooo much more explanatory than pasting in a piece of the manpage then breaking it down to a newbies' terms. Then _calmly_ telling them (OFF THE LIST) that they should RTFM without using the RTFM flame. I just think we spend way too much time falming, and not enough time correcting these people who neglect to read the docs. Just my 2 cents. -- Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime. Ben Lutgens (pgp public key is blutgens available @ hkp://pgpkeys.mit.edu) pgpITFw20WCue.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
Marek Habersack wrote: * Philip Lehman said: I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape Dunno why, but somthing get corupted. Hmmm... this is the first suggestion that has worked for me! i still get bus errors trying to login to dhs.org, but i haven't gotten it to crash on closing a window yet. I just tried that from a new user account and had no problems crashing I tried it as well but, alas, it helped only partially. The problem I have is as follows: 1. Open Netscape Navigator (not Communicator) 4.x and load any page which requires authentication. 2. Type your login and password and tap OK 3. Netscape closes the window and dissappears without ANY error message i can confirm this. especially when starting communicator (smotif-4.61, on recent potato with 2.2.10), opening messenger, getting connectet to mailserver (imap), downloading headers, just before mailfilter will apply to those new mails communicator just quits. and of course ther are all the other features like bus-errors, shutting all by closing one of it's windows, any problems about communicator we hear and write since some time . gerhard
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
Netscape-smotif-4.08 is the only reliable version I've found. I too can confirm the $ rm ~/.netscape method of temporarily fixing netscape-4.61 hangs (or whatever). But the most successful fix at the moment is $ dpkg --remove nestcape-smotif-4.6.1. ;-) -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Apologising for Re: bash scripting
Gerhard Kroder wrote: Gerhard Kroder wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to put a 30 second pause in your bash script? ever RTFM for bash? it says: wait [n] hey, shame on me, i know,... sorry, my working day just starts and i'm not quite awaken. and i was too fast with replying, and usually i don't use _this_ term, and anything and thanks for your hints :-) anyway, how come your responses came in as fast as my first dementi? ;-) gerhard
ISDN: dialmode not in kernel???
Each time isdn is started, I get a 'dialmode not in kernel' message (kernel 2.2.10). I checked the kernel configuration, but could not find an obvious setting for this. Anyone got a clue? -- R. A. Hogendoorn E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Informatics Division Tel. +31-527-24-8367 National Aerospace Laboratory, The Netherlands Fax. +31-527-24-8210
Re: new logo on debian.org
John Foster wrote: andreas pålsson wrote: I saw the new logo on www.debian.org and I'm curious.. Exactly what is it supposed to symbolize? I don't have much of an artistic mind, but to me it looks like a pigs tail. I do not care for it either. maybe there is more to the logo (as a symbol) than we realize. For now I will stay with the Penguin, more recognizable. -- John Foster AdVance-Computing Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173 I'm with you also. The chick connected us with Linux but the new logo doesnt do anything for me at all. John C. Ellingboebegin:vcard n:Ellingboe - KE4BPW;John C. x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:The Guntersville Computer Center version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner/Admin note:www.guntersville.net x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:John C. Ellingboe - KE4BPW end:vcard
Uncomplete installs
When I install a package that gets run at boot and then remove it, the files in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc?.d stays behind. Is this a 'feature' for not accidently removing config stuff, or just some strange behavior?
Re: new logo on debian.org
John C. Ellingboe wrote: I'm with you also. The chick connected us with Linux but the new logo doesnt do anything for me at all. John C. Ellingboe don't you never see a Genius going out from it's lantern ? like Aladin's story
Re: Uncomplete installs
This is a feature :). I guess the command you have used to remove the package is dpkg -r. To remove the config file as well, use dpkg --purge Hope this helps... On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 09:32:07AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I install a package that gets run at boot and then remove it, the files in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc?.d stays behind. Is this a 'feature' for not accidently removing config stuff, or just some strange behavior? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: bash scripting
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:18:48AM +0200, Gerhard Kroder wrote: ever RTFM for bash? it says: I love how people insist on firing off this remark. It is sooo much more explanatory than pasting in a piece of the manpage then breaking it down to a newbies' terms. Then _calmly_ telling them (OFF THE LIST) that th= ey should RTFM without using the RTFM flame. I just think we spend way too much time falming, and not enough time correcting these people who neglect to re= ad the docs. Just my 2 cents. People start to say it after they have politely answered the same question approximately 500 times. There are about 10,000 new newbies coming onto the Internet every day, all with the same cluelessness and the same questions. Every day, every week, every month, every year. The manual should only need to be written once, not thousands of times. The person who did write it is usually best qualified to do so. You seem to think anyone else in the world can express the matter better than the original author. If you were to read the bash manual page yourself you would see that it is a brilliant piece of writing that no-one is going to better. The kindest thing you can do for anyone in difficulty is to persuade him that he really does need to study the manual. He shouldn't even be posting questions until he has looked into the matter himself and drawn a blank on all fronts. So any question answered in the manual deserves either to be totally ignored or to be flamed. It does NOT deserve an answer. It is bad netiquette to paste part of the man page, because it creates traffic delivering something that the recipient already has. And no-one owes the newbie that kind of favor. He can cut from the man page himself. He has it, and he can do it. The rest of us are busy people and life is running out. Help where it is needed is one thing. A crutch for the lazy, or foolishly trying to do for someone else what he must surely do for himself, merely because he sent a message out into the wide world, is quite another.
RE: bash scripting
The kindest thing you can do for anyone in difficulty is to persuade him that he really does need to study the manual. He shouldn't even be posting questions until he has looked into the matter himself and drawn a blank on all fronts. So any question answered in the manual deserves either to be totally ignored or to be flamed. It does NOT deserve an answer. This is a bit strong isn't it? Sometimes newbies don't know how to find the answer themselves. Unfortunately UNIX skills are not inherently obvious to all and the information that you find so easy to obtain can sometimes be tricky for newbies. Hence all the recent discussions on a newbies information guide. Of course people should be encouraged to read the manual pages. But a polite answer that helps the new user AND points them to where they could have found it themselves is likely to result in more people taking the time to learn Linux. To be totally ignored or ... flamed is hardly the appropriate response I am afraid.
Netscape and Slashdot!
Just wondering if anyone else has had problems viewing slashdot.org in linux? I know that i used to be able to see it (before i reinstalled). The problem seems to be when netscape (4.6) trys to render the html. it just doesn't. It will download all of the files but then leaves the page blank. this is the only page that i have found which does this. Another friend of mine had the same problem untill he setup a proxiserver on his gateway box. i am on a single computer dial-up connection so i really dont want to bother doing that unless i have no other option. I want to get slashdot though. netscape v 4.6 debian 2.1 -- Tim Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 15869961 http://www.albatross.co.nz/~tubby Let the frantic Goddess and delerious drunk cry together in shadow for the puppys sad stare, the forest and the death of the moon.
gv with neXtaw anyone?
I seem to remember that in the docs that come with either gv or neXtaw it says that it is not possible to link gv with neXtaw and gives the reason why. Sorry I can't remeber exactly why though. Pat Philip Lehman writes: I'm trying to build gv using neXtaw, but it segfaults. Linking to neXtaw works fine with Xaw based apps for me, but I'm not sure about replacing Xaw3d with neXtaw. Is this at all possible or am I getting somthing wrong here? -- Philip Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (newbie) Need help on Static IP
On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 01:09:06AM +1000, Bill wrote: Can someone please tell me how to setup up a static IP for a dialup account on Debian 2.0.36 not using GUI?? I use pppconfig to set up ppp connections. In most cases you can treat a static IP just like you would a dynamic IP. -- Ray
Re: Haunting still... (need PPP help)
On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 12:06:15AM +0200, Algernon NG wrote: Jul 14 14:59:13 paradise pppd[205]: local IP address 194.143.232.116 Jul 14 14:59:13 paradise pppd[205]: remote IP address 194.143.224.50 Snipped ppp.log I think at this point we really need the output of netstat -rn since you most likely have a routing problem. I guess if you really want to try something blind you could type route add default gw 194.143.332.116 from the command line once you are connected. -- Ray
Re: Netscape and Slashdot!
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:11:21PM +1200, Tim Nicholas wrote: The problem seems to be when netscape (4.6) trys to render the html. it just doesn't. It will download all of the files but then leaves the page blank. this is the only page that i have found which does this. It should render it. The main problem appears to be that Slashdot is a huge table, and if Netscape doesn't manage to download the *entire* front page, nothing except the top gets displayed. Most other pages aren't quite so big and complex. Normally when this happens, I find that reloading fixes it. Another friend of mine had the same problem untill he setup a proxiserver It may be that the proxy is improving the downloads. It might pay to investigate the quality of your network connection, or to try viewing at different times of the day. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpeKmltldF9d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Uncomplete installs
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 09:32:07AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I install a package that gets run at boot and then remove it, the files in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc?.d stays behind. Is this a 'feature' for not accidently removing config stuff, or just some strange behavior? It's a feature. The file in /etc/init.d is normally a conffile, which doesn't get removed unless you do dpkg --purge on the package. As you say, this is all about preserving configuration information. The links should be removed when the conffile is, for similar reasons. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpYN9wcnPhx2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: bash scripting
The kindest thing you can do for anyone in difficulty is to persuade him that he really does need to study the manual. He shouldn't even be posting questions until he has looked into the matter himself and drawn a blank on all fronts. So any question answered in the manual deserves either to be totally ignored or to be flamed. It does NOT deserve an answer. This is a bit strong isn't it? Sometimes newbies don't know how to find the A bit, but only a bit. And the first quoted para not at all.
Re: Problems installing with Promise Uttra33 (hde hdg)
On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 11:49:03PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: John Beimler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I switched over to the 2nd virtual console and noticed there are no devices for hde or hdg, so I am guessing this is the problem. I am hoping someone has a quick fix for me. I would like to leave the setup the way it is, the HD controller that is on the motherboard is really flaky. Can't you just bring up the shell in tty2 and mknod these devices? Sorry, I know this is just a workaround ... this is a bug in the boot-floppies that we fixed in mid-April, however, we never made a post-2.1.9 release... Enrique? Feel like burning a boot-floppies 2.1.11 for slink? Sure. Once I have the patched kernel we talked about last week (the one that fixes the Adaptec mess) I'll upload them to incoming. -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (newbie) Need help on Static IP
You're talking about giving an IP address to somebody dialing in, right? If you want to make sure that a person always gets the same IP address, do this: 1. Set up a normal system account for the person (adduser name). 2. If you're authenticating with PAP, add this to /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: name servername * (see 'man pppd' for details on the format) 3. Make sure you call pppd with the login option (are you using mgetty?) 4. Put this line in $HOME/.ppprc for the user: local-ip:remote-ip If I understood you correctly, then that should do it. Where I used the ... notation, you should of course substitute real parameters. Marc -- Marc Mongeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix Specialist Ban-Koe Systems 9100 W Bloomington Fwy Bloomington, MN 55431-2200 (612)888-0123, x417 | FAX: (612)888-3344 -- It's such a fine line between clever and stupid. -- David St. Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel of Spinal Tap Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26 3:58 AM On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 01:09:06AM +1000, Bill wrote: Can someone please tell me how to setup up a static IP for a dialup account on Debian 2.0.36 not using GUI?? I use pppconfig to set up ppp connections. In most cases you can treat a static IP just like you would a dynamic IP. -- Ray -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: new logo on debian.org
Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote: I'm with you also. The chick connected us with Linux but the new logo doesnt do anything for me at all. John C. Ellingboe don't you never see a Genius going out from it's lantern ? like Aladin's story It's a nice idea, but it's too hard to get a grip on when only the swirl is visible. I am sure that people who who never seen the logo before will at some point ask what it supposed to look like. I've seen the swirl and the bottle together and my first reaction was a bottle with smoke or a bottle with something hot in it.. On the other hand maybe it's just me who is less intelligent than the rest of the world and doesn't get it :) I'm not complaining on the author or his artwork, in a artistic level I'm sure it's a fine piece of art. But for the normal guy/girl it's too hard to relate to something than a bottle with a puff of smoke. Just my opinion. ./Andreas -- --
Re: bash scripting
Subject: RE: bash scripting Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 06:03:35PM +1000 In reply to:Carley, Jason Australia Quoting Carley, Jason Australia([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The kindest thing you can do for anyone in difficulty is to persuade him that he really does need to study the manual. He shouldn't even be posting questions until he has looked into the matter himself and drawn a blank on all fronts. So any question answered in the manual deserves either to be totally ignored or to be flamed. It does NOT deserve an answer. [ snip ] learn Linux. To be totally ignored or ... flamed is hardly the appropriate response I am afraid. Just another example why we _need_ a weekly posting of The newbie Guide-lines for asking questions It would seem! -- Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk? ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound config with 2.2.10 in slink environment
Subject: sound config with 2.2.10 in slink environment Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:57:26AM -0400 In reply to:Damir J. Naden Quoting Damir J. Naden([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have enosniq soundscape elite ISA card, which worked under 2.0.36, after I have made a script at boot-up which initialized the card. Now that same script gives me error (both manually and at boot-up): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin# ./ssinit /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device IIRC I have read similar problems and answers reported in the past. May I suggest that you check the archives for possible solutions to your problem and come back here if you can't find any solutions that apply. -- There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO problems with new HD
Subject: LILO problems with new HD Date: Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 09:48:08PM -0700 In reply to:Lev Lvovsky Quoting Lev Lvovsky([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, I've recently discovered problems with the drive that had the /boot and /home partitions of my Debian box, so I decided to go out and get a new HD in transferring the files, I simply copied /boot/* and /home/* to the new drive, and ran lilo on it. It gave me the message that lilo was installed, Is that all you did? What drive partition did you put /boot on? The info you supplied is insufficent for me to help you with. My crystal ball is cracked, sorry. -- DOS Tip #1: Add DEVICE=FNGRCROS.SYS to CONFIG.SYS ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new logo on debian.org
I miss the debian bird image. -matt On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:58:44PM +0200, andreas pålsson wrote: Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote: I'm with you also. The chick connected us with Linux but the new logo doesnt do anything for me at all. John C. Ellingboe don't you never see a Genius going out from it's lantern ? like Aladin's story It's a nice idea, but it's too hard to get a grip on when only the swirl is visible. I am sure that people who who never seen the logo before will at some point ask what it supposed to look like. I've seen the swirl and the bottle together and my first reaction was a bottle with smoke or a bottle with something hot in it.. On the other hand maybe it's just me who is less intelligent than the rest of the world and doesn't get it :) I'm not complaining on the author or his artwork, in a artistic level I'm sure it's a fine piece of art. But for the normal guy/girl it's too hard to relate to something than a bottle with a puff of smoke. Just my opinion. ./Andreas -- -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/nu ll
Re: bash scripting
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 05:24:11PM +0930, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: I love how people insist on firing off this remark. It is sooo much more explanatory than pasting in a piece of the manpage then breaking it down to a newbies' terms. Then _calmly_ telling them (OFF THE LIST) that they should RTFM without using the RTFM flame. I just think we spend way too much time falming, and not enough time correcting these people who neglect to read People start to say it after they have politely answered the same question approximately 500 times. That's understandable, but I still discourage it. There are about 10,000 new newbies coming onto the Internet every day This is precisely the point. While it may be your 500th time to hear an easy, well-documented problem, it's not fair that when a frustrated newbie finally musters the courage to send email to several thousand people, he gets slapped in the face with RTFM. If it's a cronic offender, then fine, nail 'em, but it's a pretty rough welcome for those who may not know any better. Hell, early in my linux career, I was getting slapped with RTFM and didn't even know what it stood for -- that was useful! all with the same cluelessness and the same questions. Every day, every week, every month, every year. (I say this politely, really) Those who cannot tolerate this should probably not respond. There are others (perhaps those, like me, fresh out of newbie-school themselves) who will be happy to gently steer newbies rather than slam them in the right direction. The manual should only need to be written once, not thousands of times. The person who did write it is usually best qualified to do so. You seem to think anyone else in the world can express the matter better than the original author. If you were to read the bash manual page yourself you would see that it is a brilliant piece of writing that no-one is going to better. I agree, but it can be overwhelming. I was a solid linux user for a long time before I made it through that man page. (forgive the physics anology) You shouldn't hand a high school kid Jackson (graduate electricity and magnetism) when he asks how electromagnets work. It's just too much. The kindest thing you can do for anyone in difficulty is to persuade him that he really does need to study the manual. Agreed, the only way he'll ever make it though the manual is by trying _many_ times. He shouldn't even be posting questions until he has looked into the matter himself and drawn a blank on all fronts. I typically say you should ask for help after scratching your head (i.e. NO ideas) for 1/2 hour. So any question answered in the manual deserves either to be totally ignored or to be flamed. It does NOT deserve an answer. Now that's productive. I would think that even the most cynical oldbie would at least point them to the manual in case they don't know where it is. It is bad netiquette to paste part of the man page, because it creates traffic delivering something that the recipient already has. And no-one owes the newbie that kind of favor. He can cut from the man page himself. He has it, and he can do it. The rest of us are busy people and life is running out. Help where it is needed is one thing. A crutch for the lazy, or foolishly trying to do for someone else what he must surely do for himself, merely because he sent a message out into the wide world, is quite another. I agree with this entire statement. I just think that there is some middle ground between help for the desperate and a crutch for the lazy. The origin of this thread is the perfect example. The word sleep doesn't even appear in the bash man page. man sleep will work, but you first need to know you're looking for sleep. catch 22. Appropriate action? Ask. -Michael -- Michael Stenner Office Phone: 919-660-2513 Duke University, Dept. of Physics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305
Re: file extensions -- batch mv'ing, mp3s
related to that, is this: is there an easy way ( a quick command or script) to covert all the .MP3's to .mp3. Strangly enough mv doesn't differentiate between .mp3 and .MP3, so I need to change the name to a temporary file first, which makes the task all the more annoying. That's because the files are on your windows partition; it's vfat, not mv, that fails to differentiate. Remember, EVERYTHING in UNIX is case-sensitive. If it's not case-sensitive, then you know it ain't UNIX. To change .MP3 to .mp3 in a given directory, I do this (anyone know an easier/more efficient way?): $ for x in *;do mv -iv $x `echo $x|sed -e 's/MP3$/mp3/'`;done But for renaming mp3's specifically, have I got the script for you! I wrote a perl script that changes something like this: Artist -- The Song Title.mp3 or even: (Artist) The Song Title.mp3 to: artist-the_song_title.mp3 It slices, it dices, it removes spaces, it replaces multiple hyphens with single hyphens, it converts to lower case, it even handles those stupid parentheses correctly! The script is attached. To rename all the files in a directory, use the following shell script: #!/bin/sh for x in *.mp3; do mv $x `mp3rename.pl $x`;done Having uniformly named mp3s is nice -- especially when you've got a zillion of 'em. :-D mp3rename.pl Description: Perl program
Re: new logo on debian.org
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:58:44PM +0200, andreas pålsson wrote: It's a nice idea, but it's too hard to get a grip on when only the swirl is visible. I am sure that people who who never seen the logo before will at some point ask what it supposed to look like. I've seen the swirl and the bottle together and my first reaction was a bottle with smoke or a bottle with something hot in it.. On the other hand maybe it's just me who is less intelligent than the rest of the world and doesn't get it :) I'm not complaining on the author or his artwork, in a artistic level I'm sure it's a fine piece of art. But for the normal guy/girl it's too hard to relate to something than a bottle with a puff of smoke. I'm not sure it's really necessary, though. If there's any meaning behind that hat, I don't know what it is. -Michael -- Michael Stenner Office Phone: 919-660-2513 Duke University, Dept. of Physics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305
Re: file extensions
This worked in my test directory, but once I became root and tried it, it seemed to Why did you have to become root? It sounds like you need to use the uid and gid options in the fstab entry for your windows partition. only mess with my locate command I say this because before running it locate *.MP3 would result in a quick list of these files. But after running that command in a directory with .MP3's, typing locate *.MP3 slowly scrolls out the list of .MP3's in that directory. locate .MP3 works fine, but mmv did alter the behaviour locate. Also updatedb gave me this when it finished. Interesting experiment. Here's what's happened: locate(1)'s database has the filenames that the kernel's vfat driver reported, which is what you get in a directory listing, what you see in Windows, and, not coincidentally, the exact strings used to identify the file in the filesystem (except that the fs uses 2-byte chararcter codes, but that's not important to us English-speaking Americans :-). I think that explains the behavior you got the first time you ran locate. Because vfat doesn't differentiate case, the mmv command had absolutely *no effect*. The reason `locate *.MP3' behaved differently is that you ran it in the directory of the mp3's, so the shell expanded your fileglob to a listing of the `*.MP3' files in that directory, and locate did a *separate* search for each one (and found them). First of all, always protect locate's args from the shell, e.g.: locate '*.MP3' or: locate \*.MP3 'man bash' for more. To *fix* this, just say this to bash in the directory of your mp3s: for x in *.MP3;do mv -iv $x foo;mv -iv foo `echo $x|sed -e 's/MP3$/mp3'`;done (It's all one line -- that linebreak was rudely inserted by Netscrape -- I'm and work and must use Windows.) Note the use of the temporary file 'foo'. If you don't see how that command works, I recommend you read up on bash -- it's a nice shell, and those for loops at the command line are a blast! If you really want to get high, start nesting them! :-D
Re: my SB16 can't play midi files
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, a wrote: I have Debian 1.2 and compile the kernel for SB16. [...] Your config looks right. In fact, it looks identical to the config I used to use with my SB16. Is yours a PNP card? Now I can play wav files and CD but can't play midi files using playmidi. Only a copyright notice appears. Check your mixer settings; you may have the midi volume set low. Alternatively, you could try using timidity; it does midi in software and plays like a wav file. It sounds a lot better than the SB16. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monkeys would be harder on equipment than college students, but only because they're stronger. - Jim Ingles
Re: bash scripting
Carley, Jason (Australia) wrote: The kindest thing you can do for anyone in difficulty is to persuade him that he really does need to study the manual. He shouldn't even be posting questions until he has looked into the matter himself and drawn a blank on all fronts. So any question answered in the manual deserves either to be totally ignored or to be flamed. It does NOT deserve an answer. This is a bit strong isn't it? Sometimes newbies don't know how to find the answer themselves. Unfortunately UNIX skills are not inherently obvious to all and the information that you find so easy to obtain can sometimes be tricky for newbies. Hence all the recent discussions on a newbies information guide. Of course people should be encouraged to read the manual pages. But a polite answer that helps the new user AND points them to where they could have found it themselves is likely to result in more people taking the time to learn Linux. To be totally ignored or ... flamed is hardly the appropriate response I am afraid. I agree, Jason. I'm not the original poster, but I just now pretended to want the same question answered (how to put a 30-second delay in a script). I thought to myself, I'll look in man bash. I did a search on delay, and on wait, and on sleep. sleep, which was the answer to the original problem, was not even found in the bash manual. delay and wait had no relevance to the problem. So I tried man script. The script man page had nothing to do with scripting (and didn't have any of the three above-mentioned search words). So as a person looking for the answer, and knowing that I'm going to be told to RTFM, I wonder, Which manual am I supposed to read for this? After the fact, I know the correct command is sleep; but I still don't know where to find that info; the only place I've seen it mentioned is in this thread. Oh, I just thought to use the apropos delay command; it did turn up the sleep command, but again, that's not an intuitive step for the non-initiated. I guess what I'm saying is that the uninitiated (newbie or not; he's new to this particular thing) doesn't always know what manual to read, so just yelling RTFM isn't a good solution. Generally when I have a question, my first source of help is the Debian userlist archives, but even that took me a few months to realize the correct search engine to use was at the bottom of the archive page, not the (site-) search button at the top. I understand Michael's frustration at having to answer the same questions 500 times. Maybe a big bold link on the Debian home page that says Have a question? Look here first which takes the user directly to the search input box on the mail archive search engine?
Network addressing
I have two machines plugged into a cable modem. Both have IP addresses provided by the ISP. One is 24.6.xxx.xxx, and the other is 24.5.xxx.xxx. Theoretically that's all fine 'cause 24. is an A class network. However the ISP says that the netmask for these addresses should be 255.255.255.0, that is, they are subnetting their class A net. And herein lies the problem: looking at their netmask the machines believe they are on separate networks and so to talk to each other they need the upstream machines -- the gateways for each of them -- to be up. That doesn't happen all the time and anyway, I want these two machines to be able to talk to each other without involving the upstream machines at all. So, my question is: can I simply set the netmask to 255.0.0.0 on both of them and put appropriate entries into the /etc/hosts file? Is this likely to break anything? Alternatively, can I use arp to specify the Ethernet address - IP address correspondence, or something will get confused? And a semi-related question: on a pure Win98 machine, how do you find out the Ethernet address of the NIC card? I tried looking through the registry, but didn't find anything that looked right. Kaa ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: Backup software/Aiwa8000?
tjm wrote: Hi. Looking for a recommendation for tape backup software using an Aiwa TD-A8000 atapi tape drive. Nothing too fancy needed but I would like to backup selected directories from win95/nt machines also on the network. Using slink and 2.0.36. If you use something simple like afio or tar, you don't really care what kind of tape drive you have, as long as the driver is working. I'm backing up scads of Win95 machines on the network using a Perl script running afio against smbfs shares. The drive is an Aiwa TD-8000 (that's the SCSI one, not ATAPI).But that's a roll-your-own type of solution, of course. I do like afio, though: it can compress, but is more error-tolerant than tar because it does it on a file-by-file basis. I have chosen to hardcode the drive capacity, though, because I haven't cared to test the drive's end-of-tape detection and recovery capabilities, having read that that's dodgy on a lot of drives. I'd be interested in knowing whether your drive handles this properly. And don't you love the low prices on these Aiwas? Mine was a no-frills OEM version and cost me (no lie) about $100 for a 4 gig capacity drive. :-) -- ... if the problem persists ... get a 3.5 ft ... length of sucker rod and have a chat with the user in question. -- Linux System Administration, SYSLOGD (8), page 7 (Dealing with DOS attacks exploiting SYSLOGD)
3Com 509B Ethernet card problem part 2
Hi, Thanks to all who responded to my first (very incomplete) question! I have now disabled PnP on the card and set IRQ to 10 and io to 300. IRQ 10 is set to ISA (not Pnp) in Bios. Donald Beckers el3-diag report the card to be OK, se below. What I was trying to do was to compile the 3c509 driver hard into the kernel with modconf and was geting only errors. Many suggested to load the driver as a module insteed so I have put the line alias eth0 3c509 in to the file conf.modules via update-modules command. But I still get: On Boot eth0 unknown interface When I check modprobe # This file was generated by: modprobe -c (2.1.121) [Deletia] # Aliases alias eth0 3c509 alias eth0 off [Deletia] The first line about 3c509 looks like mine but where does the off command come from? After running el3-diag, insmod and modprobe I am for some reason able to run modconf and put the driver in to the kernel but on reboot the process stops at 3c509, only a CTRL+C makes it continue. After running insmod 3c509, modprobe 3c509, ifconfig ... and route ... everything looks fine, se below, but I can't get a connection/ping other computers on my local network. The settings in ifconfig and route disappears after a reboot, I presume this is not right. TIA Regards, Fredrik Jonsson * Some (necessary?) info: el3diag.c:v0.11 3/16/97 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Looking for card 1. Generating the activation sequence on port 0x100 for card 1. Activating the card at I/O address 300. EEPROM contents: 0060 9724 7cb9 9050 c183 0036 5a46 6d50 0010 a000 0060 9724 7cb9 1320 9583 An ISA EtherLink III board was activated at I/O 0x300, IRQ 10. eth0: 3c509 found at 0x300. # This file was generated by: ifconfig -a loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:60:97:24:7C:B9 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 Interrupt:10 Base address:0x300 Kernel IP routing table (via netstat -nr) Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1500 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 3584 0 0 lo PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2): 56 data bytes ping: wrote 192.168.0.2 64 chars, ret=-1 not permitted ping: wrote 192.168.0.2 64 chars, ret=-1 not permitted ping: wrote 192.168.0.2 64 chars, ret=-1 not permitted --- 192.168.0.2 ping statistics --- 7 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss -- A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it's not open. Phone: (Int. +46) 063-12 54 61/070-628 71 20 Address: Box 31, S-831 21 Östersund, Sweden Web site: http://www.combonet.se/
Re: re-worded(newbie) Need help on Static IP
Bill wrote: Thanks for all your info. I don't think I worded my request correctly, I need to setup the server to allocate an IP for a user whom is dialing in, so each time they dial in they get the same IP number. Depending on your setup, you probably want to read: pppd man page (8) under OPTIONS: local_IP_address:remote_IP_address When mgetty, for instance, runs pppd, it needs to have this on the command line (or, probably better, in a file pointed to by the pppd file option).
Mutt dependency on an MTA
I have qmail running as an MTA on my potato system. I think I didn't get it as a .deb (probably because there isn't one? I am not sure), and just downloaded it and installed in /usr/local. Well, yesterday I tried 'apt-get install mutt' and guess what? apt refused to download mutt because it depends on a mail-transfer-agent and such a beast was not to be found in dpkg's database. I've tried persuading apt in a variety of ways, but it didn't budge: When I say no, I mean no!. So out of pure frustration I installed postfix, which of course, placated apt and I was able to get mutt. Now I am quite sure that running qmail and postfix simultaneously isn't the greatest of ideas and I'd rather stick with qmail (unless the esteemed Debian public thinks that postfix is much better). However I suspect that apt will throw a fit if I uninstall postfix and try to leave mutt installed (and getting upgrades will probably hurt, too). So, can somebody tell me how to persuade apt to let me use mutt with a non-deb qmail? Kaa ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
System woes..unkillable processes and more!
I've had intermittant problems with one of my Debian systems. It's running potato and the 2.2.10 kernel-image in potato. In the middle of June, I went on vacation and left the box up so I could dial-in and check faxes/emails. About a day after I came back, it crashed (yes..Linux crashed!) with kmod running in circles Can't locate module binfmt-. Any attempts to run any programs gave me Can't execute binary file. I rebooted, and was forced to run e2fsck on all of my filesystems manually. It took quite a while and fixed lots of problems, and also performed a bad-sector scan. I rebooted again, and found that my lost+found directories were full of files, and I began to discover that I was missing lots of files. I lost a 10MB mail folder, the /var/lib/dpkg/* databases, etc. Cursing myself for not having backed up recently, I reinstalled and mounted /home over NFS from my other system (thank god..its had no problems). Also, I formatted the drive under windows and discovered that it had 1 MB of bad sectors out of 6 GB. I've been running along happily until now. My system had been up about 7 days, until I discovered an unkillable process (gzip -9f /var/log/kern.log.0). Reading up on deja news, I tried killing it with various signals, attaching to it with gdb and strace. None worked. I couldn't log in anymore, either (hung the kernel in a blocking IO call?). So, I rebooted with Ctrl-Alt-Del. Init, said it was rebooting, but didn't do anything. I manually rebooted, and upon the your filesystems have errors fsck check, I got the binfmt- message again. My filesystems have lots of errors now, and I don't want this reinstallation to be a regular procedure. What should I do? Has anyone had problems like these before? -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: LILO problems with new HD
I've recently discovered problems with the drive that had the /boot and /home partitions of my Debian box, so I decided to go out and get a new HD in transferring the files, I simply copied /boot/* and /home/* to the new drive, and ran lilo on it. It gave me the message that lilo was installed, Is that all you did? What drive partition did you put /boot on? The info you supplied is insufficent for me to help you with. My crystal ball is cracked, sorry. hehe, sorry, I post under the assumption that ppl's balls are in working order ;-D. /boot is hda1...there are three partitions on the drive, none of them extended. this is what I do @ the console: ** silver168:~# lilo -v LILO version 21, Copyright 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger Reading boot sector from /dev/hda Merging with /boot/boot.b Boot image: /boot/linux Added Linux * /boot/boot.0300 exists - no backup copy made. Writing boot sector. ** I'm a little bit confused as to the difference between this command, and 'lilo -v -b /dev/hda1', which gives me the following: ** silver168:~# lilo -v -b /dev/hda1 LILO version 21, Copyright 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger Ignoring entry 'boot' Reading boot sector from /dev/hda1 Merging with /boot/boot.b Boot image: /boot/linux Added Linux * /boot/boot.0301 exists - no backup copy made. Writing boot sector. ** again, when I reboot, and take out the floppy (the way I've been booting for a long time now seeing as my other HD gave me this same problem), I get a LIL-, which the docs say is a problem with the map file. any help would be appreciated :) -lev
newbie guidelines suggestion
Hello, Since there has been so much discussion about how to impart info to newbies, I thought I'd throw this idea out to the list How about a .signature line or the equivalent at the bottom of mail from the list which is a link to an FAQ or a page which contains guidelines for posting to the list, and/or suggestions on how to figure things out for yourself. This is would be somewhat akin to the Unsubscribe... line which appeared on mail from the list for some time. (Posting instructions on how to unsubscribe on such a page might decrease the number of unsubscribe msgs which appear on the list.) The sig could say something like Please read insert link before posting to this list --Thank you. --D -- === David Karlin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://funk48.home.travelin.com Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 ===
Re: Network addressing
Kaa == \[ Kaa \] Kaa writes: Kaa I have two machines plugged into a cable modem. Both have IP Kaa addresses provided by the ISP. One is 24.6.xxx.xxx, and the Kaa other is 24.5.xxx.xxx. [...] However the ISP says that the Kaa netmask for these addresses should be 255.255.255.0 [...] Kaa So, my question is: can I simply set the netmask to 255.0.0.0 Kaa on both of them and put appropriate entries into the Kaa /etc/hosts file? Is this likely to break anything? Yes, they should then be able to talk to each other, but it will probably break talking to any other hosts in 24.x.x.x that are not on your physical network (unless there is a gateway doing proxy arp for them). A better solution would probably be to leave the netmask as it is, but set up a route on each machine telling it how to reach the other machine, something like route add -host other_machines_name gw this_machines_name on each machine should work. Add this to /etc/init.d/network, or wherever you keep that stuff. Kaa And a semi-related question: on a pure Win98 machine, how do Kaa you find out the Ethernet address of the NIC card? [...] Personally, I ping it from a linux box and look at the arp cache with arp -an. But that's just me. :-) -- I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free. http://www.clark.net/pub/hermit/ pgpPwVBQYSRum.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt dependency on an MTA
Kaa == \[ Kaa \] Kaa writes: Kaa [...] apt refused to download mutt because it depends on a Kaa mail-transfer-agent and such a beast was not to be found in Kaa dpkg's database. I've tried persuading apt [...] So, can Kaa somebody tell me how to persuade apt to let me use mutt with Kaa a non-deb qmail? The equivs package might do what you want. I've never used it, though, and I'm not sure whether there might be complications if it's used to fake out virtual packages like mail-transfer-agent. -- I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free. http://www.clark.net/pub/hermit/ pgptlaQV5KRhZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: file extensions -- batch mv'ing, mp3s
To change .MP3 to .mp3 in a given directory, I do this (anyone know an
easier/more efficient way?):
$ for x in *;do mv -iv $x `echo $x|sed -e 's/MP3$/mp3/'`;done
I usually do something like this:
bash$ for i in *.MP3; do mv $i ${i%.MP3}.mp3; done
I don't know if ${var%pattern} is a bashism or not.
The ${var%pattern} returns the value of $var, with the shortest suffix
matching the pattern (a filename glob) deleted. Using %% instead of %
removes the longest suffix, and # and ## remove the shortest and
longest prefixes.
I think it's shorter, clearer, and more efficient.
Any better ways?
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Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our
liberty depends upon the chaos and cacaphony of the unfettered speech
the First Amendment protects. -- A.L.A. v. U.S. Dept. of Justice
