`kpiod' !?

1999-10-05 Thread Cosme Perea Cuevas
Hola,

veo al hacer `ps aux' un demonio  que no me suena de nada y no
encuentro página  man, ejecutable,  o algo  que me  aclare que
hace,

root 3  0.0  0.0 0 0  ?  SW  Sep 30   0:00 (kpiod)

¿Álguien puede aclararlo?

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

1999-10-05 Thread Antono Fernández Fernández
Muchas gracias, Jaime, por esta información, ya que no conozco  bien las 
últimas
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Jaime =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fern=E1ndez=20Mart=EDnez?= escribió:

 En Amazon venden un libro titulado Debian Gnu/Linux 2.2 Unleashed y
 dicen que incluye CD-ROM.  No ando muy fino con el tema de las
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Re: `kpiod' !?

1999-10-05 Thread Javier López
Cosme Perea Cuevas wrote:
 
 Hola,
 
 veo al hacer `ps aux' un demonio  que no me suena de nada y no
 encuentro página  man, ejecutable,  o algo  que me  aclare que
 hace,
 
 root 3  0.0  0.0 0 0  ?  SW  Sep 30   0:00 (kpiod)
 
 ¿Álguien puede aclararlo?
 

Haz dpkg -S kpiod y así verás el paquete al que pertenece. 

Saludos


ftp anonymous

1999-10-05 Thread Fernando
Hola:

Tengo instalado Debian en 3 pc's y me he dado cuenta de
que en uno de ellos no existe el usuario ftp para conexiones
anonimas.
Podeis alguno recordarme cual es el paquete que crea este usuario.?

(Conozco más o menos el procedimiento para crearlo de forma manual,
aunque he visto que en Debian no se crea dentro del directorio del
usuario la estructura de directorios tipica ( /bin /etc ) por que ? )

Saludos.

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Re: Problema con RDSI

1999-10-05 Thread Ricard P.G.
--- Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guenas
 
 Instale en un servidor la Debian Hamm, con tarjeta Teles 16.3. Actualice los
 paquetes necesarios para meter un kernel 2.2.X y meti el 2.2.12. Me baje la
 ultima version de las isdnutils (la 3.algo beta 2), pero me ocurrio algo muy
 curioso: al compilar no podia con el isdnctrl porque no encontraba uno de los
 .h del kernel.
 
 El caso es que en el mensaje de error aparecia la ruta completa que buscaba y
 verifique que el fichero estaba efectivamente alli :-
 
 Por culpa de esto tengo un servidor con dominio propio, pero tirando de un
 triste 2.0.34 (lo que repercute en mi paz de espiritu y en mi sueño :-(( )
 
 ¿De donde pillo unas isdnutils que no me obliguen a actualizar media
 distribucion y que tiren con 2.2.12?
 
 Gracias por adelantado, y Saludines

Yo tengo una citius con el 2.2.4 y el paquete isdnutils que viene con la
distribucion. La teles 16.3 Pnp me va de muerte. Lo que vengo a sugerir es que
mires la documentacion de las fuentes que te bajaste.

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Sobre tarjeta de sonido

1999-10-05 Thread Manuel Jerez Cßrdenes
Hola a todos, escribo porque tengo una tarjeta Sound Blaster Live
Value que no consigo ni a la de tres que me funcione en Debian 2.1.
Tengo instalado el Kernel 2.2.11, pero por más que lo recompilo y
cambio las opciones de sonido no va. ¿Alguien ha conseguido que esta
u otra tarjeta de características similares le funcione en Debian?.

Gracias y buen día.




Preguntas sobre Quake

1999-10-05 Thread Francisco José Avila Bermejo \(Monkiki\)
He pillado el Quake para Linux, pero es un poco cacoso. En las X va muy
lento y en consola no me funciona. ¿Hay alguien que juege desde Linux?

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Re: Sobre tarjeta de sonido

1999-10-05 Thread dfm

Hola,

La verdad no se de donde sacaste la idea de que podrías hacer funcionar la
SB LIVE! si en todas partes se dice que no hay soporte para ella pero
no desesperes, no está todo perdido...
Hay un DRiver disponible en http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux pero
este driver requiere que tengas el kernel 2.2.10 instalado, sino olvidate
de que funcione :)

Yo la tengo instalada y funcionando, asi que si tienes más dudas avísame.
De todos modos te aviso que el driver ese está bien, pero si tienes los
pcworks o 4 altavoces olvídate de oir sonido por los altavoces traseros, el
driver este todavía no trae sonido digital, habrá que esperar...

Un saludo

Daniel






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 Hola a todos, escribo porque tengo una tarjeta Sound Blaster Live
Value que no consigo ni a la de tres que me funcione en Debian 2.1.
Tengo instalado el Kernel 2.2.11, pero por más que lo recompilo y
cambio las opciones de sonido no va. ¿Alguien ha conseguido que esta
u otra tarjeta de características similares le funcione en Debian?.

Gracias y buen día.




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Sobre puertos para impresora

1999-10-05 Thread Manuel Jerez Cßrdenes
Hola lista, me está pasando una cosa bastante curiosa con mi
distribución Debian. Resulta que he actualizado el Kernel al 2.2.11,
y antes me funcionaba a las mil maravillas la impresión. Pues bien,
ahora nada de nada. Si intento hacer algo tan básico como:
ls -la | /dev/lp0
me canta que no tengo permiso para imprimir en el dispositivo.
¡ASOMBROSO!. Reviso los permisos y están correctos. ¿Alguién sabe que
le está pasando a mi linux?

Gracias.

Manolo.


Re: Preguntas sobre Quake

1999-10-05 Thread Hue-Bond
El martes 05 de octubre de 1999 a la(s) 13:27:37 +0200, Francisco José Avila 
Bermejo Monkiki contaba:

He pillado el Quake para Linux, pero es un poco cacoso. En las X va muy
lento y en consola no me funciona. ¿Hay alguien que juege desde Linux?

 ¿Qué Quake, el 1 o el 3?

 Yo puse la 1.05 del q3 en una banshee pero daba una imagen cada
 seis segundos. Cosa de la aceleradora,  no del Quake. El q1 en casa
 me  rula bastante  bien  en  consola. Aquí  en  el  ciber no  tengo
 aceleradora así que bajé el servidor dedicado de q3 1.07 pero no me
 encuentra los *.pak.


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Re: Sobre puertos para impresora

1999-10-05 Thread Miguel Rodriguez Penabad
Manuel Jerez Cßrdenes wrote:
 
 Hola lista, me está pasando una cosa bastante curiosa con mi
 distribución Debian. Resulta que he actualizado el Kernel al 2.2.11,
 y antes me funcionaba a las mil maravillas la impresión. Pues bien,
 ahora nada de nada. Si intento hacer algo tan básico como:
 ls -la | /dev/lp0
 me canta que no tengo permiso para imprimir en el dispositivo.
 ¡ASOMBROSO!. Reviso los permisos y están correctos. ¿Alguién sabe que
 le está pasando a mi linux?
 
 Gracias.
 
 Manolo.
 
Sí, en los kernels 2.2.XX la impresora está en /dev/lp1.
Edita el /etc/printcap y cambia lp0 por lp1, o ejecuta
magicfilterconfig --force
Saludos
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Re: Preguntas sobre Quake

1999-10-05 Thread dfm

Yo probé la shareware y me chutaba de maravilla, lo que pasa que la borré
enseguida porque el quake no me gusta, prefiero mil millones de veces el
quake2, al cual también he jugado en linux y con tarjeta 3dfx.

Suerte

Daniel





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RV: la ñ no sale con su?

1999-10-05 Thread Ángel Carrasco


-Mensaje original-
De: Ángel Carrasco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: martes, 05 de octubre de 1999 13:14
Para: Samuel Montosa
Asunto: RE: la ñ no sale con su?


export LANG=es_ES

 -Mensaje original-
 De: Samuel Montosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el: martes, 05 de octubre de 1999 0:25
 Para: lista debian
 Asunto: Re: la ñ no sale con su?


 El Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:24:15PM +0200, Manuel Fonseca dijo:
  Hola una preguntilla, por que cuando estoy en mi home de user
 hago un ls y
  veo las ñ y cuando hago su, en mi home hago un ls me sale en las eñes un
  interrogante?
 
  a que se puede deber este problema? me acabo de dar cuenta no he
  investigado... alguien me puede dar una pista?

 posiblemente es que no tengas configurado el root  con  las
 opciones  del
  español, y por eso al hacer el su, usa la configuracion del root.
 lo que debes hacer es configurar el lenguaje al  root  igual
 que  hiciste
  con tu usuario normal...

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Re: ftp anonymous

1999-10-05 Thread Jordi
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:21:29PM +0200, Fernando wrote:
 Jordi wrote:
  
  On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:43:31AM +0200, Fernando wrote:
   Hola:
  
   Tengo instalado Debian en 3 pc's y me he dado cuenta de
   que en uno de ellos no existe el usuario ftp para conexiones
   anonimas.
   Podeis alguno recordarme cual es el paquete que crea este usuario.?
  
  Cualquier paquete que sea un ftp server (ftpd, wu-ftpd, proftpd) te
  configura todo esto.
  
  
   (Conozco más o menos el procedimiento para crearlo de forma manual,
   aunque he visto que en Debian no se crea dentro del directorio del
   usuario la estructura de directorios tipica ( /bin /etc ) por que ? )
  
  Supongo que esto de que en /home/ftp esten los directorios bin, lib etc. es
  cosa del wu-ftpd. Si en los otros ordenadores has instalado proftpd no
  tienen porqué existir ya que proftpd no los necesita.
  Si estas usando Slink, supongo que deberias instalar el último proftpd (si
  elegiste este) para Potato, que creo que es la 2.1_pre7, por el tema de los
  últimos bugs encontrados.
 
 No no existen, pero en los libros clasicos de unix dice que deben
 existir para poder usar por ejemplo el ls.
Claro, pero supongo que los nuevos ftpd's como proftpd ya no necesitan lo
clasico... ya son modernos, jejeje.


 No estoy en la maquina a la que le falta el usuario ftp, asi que ya 
 lo miraré pero creo que el ftpd si que esta por que si no no podría
 hacer un ftp, no?

No es lo mismo el ftpd (el servidor) que el ftp (cliente). Puedes tener una
cosa pero no la otra. Es igual que tener el bitchx (cliente de IRC) pero no
tener el ircd (servidor de IRC).

Salut!

Jordi


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Re: Sobre tarjeta de sonido

1999-10-05 Thread Jordi
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:20:46AM +, Manuel Jerez Cßrdenes wrote:
   Hola a todos, escribo porque tengo una tarjeta Sound Blaster Live 
 Value que no consigo ni a la de tres que me funcione en Debian 2.1. 
 Tengo instalado el Kernel 2.2.11, pero por más que lo recompilo y 
 cambio las opciones de sonido no va. ¿Alguien ha conseguido que esta 
 u otra tarjeta de características similares le funcione en Debian?.

Por mucho que recompiles, si la tarjeta de sonido no tiene driver en el
kernel ya puedes intentarlo muchas veces que no funcionará nunca.
Esa tarjeta de sonido -creo- que es esa para la cual Creative sacó un
asqueroso driver en binario, así que tienes que pillarte el binario desde la
pagina de creative y anyadirlo junto a los otros. Supongo que ya que
Creative apoya a Linux (de que manera), habrá un mísero readme que te
explique como se hace.

Adeu,

Jordi



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Re: ipchains

1999-10-05 Thread Hue-Bond
El sábado 02 de octubre de 1999 a la(s) 13:41:38 +0200, RESET contaba:

Cuando decías que veías el paquete yo
pensé que te referías a la opción de log de ipchains, que lo hace
aparecer en /var/log/messages.  Si te está llegando al logger en su
registro específico entonces la regla no está funcionando.

 Sí, a eso me refería.


También podría ser que hubiera problemas con el servicio de nombres y
el firewall, e ipchains no pudiera resolver, pero supongo que lo
comentarías si fuera el caso.

 Lo intenté varias veces, tanto con el nombre como con la IP.


Lo único que puedo sugerir es que quites la dirección de destino y
pruebes (o la sustituyas por un -d 0/0).

 Esperaremos al siguiente port scan, a ver...


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Re: Sobre puertos para impresora

1999-10-05 Thread Fernando
Miguel Rodriguez Penabad wrote:

 
 Sí, en los kernels 2.2.XX la impresora está en /dev/lp1.
 Edita el /etc/printcap y cambia lp0 por lp1, o ejecuta
 magicfilterconfig --force
 Saludos
 Miguel


Y a que se debe el cambio ?


Saludos.


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adduser y GID

1999-10-05 Thread Marga
Hola.

En mis sistema, al añadir un nuevo usuario, por defecto se crea su
directorio home y un grupo nuevo para ese usuario. Los permisos para el
directorio home queda drwxr-sr-x, es decir, se activa el setgid.

Seg'un tengo entendido, setgid significa que los archivos ejecutables a
nivel de grupo se ejecutaran como si los ejecutara root. Me pregunto:

cu'al es la utilidad de activar setgid?

supone problemas de seguridad?

hay alguna opci'on en adduser.conf para desactivar ese bit?

Muchas gracias
Anita


Re: Sobre puertos para impresora

1999-10-05 Thread Antonio Castro
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_Jerez_C=DFrdenes?= wrote:

   Hola lista, me está pasando una cosa bastante curiosa con mi 
 distribución Debian. Resulta que he actualizado el Kernel al 2.2.11, 
 y antes me funcionaba a las mil maravillas la impresión. Pues bien, 
 ahora nada de nada. Si intento hacer algo tan básico como:
   ls -la | /dev/lp0

Cuando se usa un '|' pipe conviene colocar a cada lado un ejecutable.
/dev/lp0 no es un ejecutable. 

Prueba:  ls -la  /dev/lp0

 me canta que no tengo permiso para imprimir en el dispositivo. 
 ¡ASOMBROSO!. Reviso los permisos y están correctos. ¿Alguién sabe que 
 le está pasando a mi linux?

No parece que sea grave. :-)

 
 Gracias.
 
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Re: Preguntas sobre Quake

1999-10-05 Thread Daniel H. Perez
* [991005 10:59] Francisco José Avila Bermejo Monkiki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
decia:
 He pillado el Quake para Linux, pero es un poco cacoso. En las X va muy
 lento y en consola no me funciona. ¿Hay alguien que juege desde Linux?
 
Hola
Tanto el Quake 1 como el Quake 2 van de puta madre en consola, solo tenes
que configurar la svgalib.
Bueno ahora te dejo porque tengo que pasar de nivel :)))
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Re: la ñ no sale con su?

1999-10-05 Thread Daniel H. Perez
* [991004 17:48] Manuel Fonseca ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decia:
 Hola una preguntilla, por que cuando estoy en mi home de user hago un ls y
 veo las ñ y cuando hago su, en mi home hago un ls me sale en las eñes un
 interrogante?
 
 a que se puede deber este problema? me acabo de dar cuenta no he
 investigado... alguien me puede dar una pista?
 
 saludos.
Hola
Probaste con su - ?
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Re: Preguntas sobre Quake

1999-10-05 Thread Daniel H. Perez
* [991005 11:09] Daniel H. Perez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decia:
 * [991005 10:59] Francisco José Avila Bermejo Monkiki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 decia:
  He pillado el Quake para Linux, pero es un poco cacoso. En las X va muy
  lento y en consola no me funciona. ¿Hay alguien que juege desde Linux?
  
 Hola
 Tanto el Quake 1 como el Quake 2 van de puta madre en consola, solo tenes
 que configurar la svgalib.
 Bueno ahora te dejo porque tengo que pasar de nivel :)))
 Saludos
Se me olvido comentarte que el Quake 3 ni idea de como anda ya que no tengo
aceleradora 3D
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Re: Sobre puertos para impresora

1999-10-05 Thread Miguel Rodriguez Penabad
Fernando wrote:
 
 Miguel Rodriguez Penabad wrote:
 
  
  Sí, en los kernels 2.2.XX la impresora está en /dev/lp1.
  Edita el /etc/printcap y cambia lp0 por lp1, o ejecuta
  magicfilterconfig --force
  Saludos
  Miguel
 
 
 Y a que se debe el cambio ?

Pues eso sí que no lo sé. Yo tenia el 2.0.36 e iba en lp0,
me pasé al 2.2.12 y lo tuve que poner en lp1 para que rulase.
Y como funcionó, no miré más :)

Miguel

 
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Re: ftp anonymous

1999-10-05 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:43:31AM +0200, Fernando wrote:
Tengo instalado Debian en 3 pc's y me he dado cuenta de
que en uno de ellos no existe el usuario ftp para conexiones
anonimas.
Podeis alguno recordarme cual es el paquete que crea este usuario.?

(Conozco más o menos el procedimiento para crearlo de forma manual,
aunque he visto que en Debian no se crea dentro del directorio del
usuario la estructura de directorios tipica ( /bin /etc ) por que ? )

Yo lo monto con Hamm y siempre me lo hace todo el solito: usuario, directorios
en el home del ftp, etc...

Eso si, como servidor ftp tengo wu-ftpd-academ

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Re: Preguntas sobre Quake

1999-10-05 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 01:27:37PM +0200, Francisco José Avila Bermejo Monkiki 
wrote:
He pillado el Quake para Linux, pero es un poco cacoso. En las X va muy
lento y en consola no me funciona. ¿Hay alguien que juege desde Linux?

¿A que version te refieres? Yo solo he probado el Quake 1, el de toda la vida.
En las X no iba muy sobrado precisamente (aunque en mi hard pocas cosas
graficas van sobradas :-)))

En consola va como una moto y sin problemas.

Saludines

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Re: `kpiod' !?

1999-10-05 Thread Toni Moragues


On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Cosme Perea Cuevas wrote:

 Hola,
 
 veo al hacer `ps aux' un demonio  que no me suena de nada y no
 encuentro página  man, ejecutable,  o algo  que me  aclare que
 hace,
 
 root 3  0.0  0.0 0 0  ?  SW  Sep 30   0:00 (kpiod)
 
 ¿Álguien puede aclararlo?

Si, esos procesos no los inicia ningun demonio ejecutable son procesos
dentro del kernel digamos que son demonios que corren dentro del kernel 
parte del kpiod tambien arranca otros como:

root 2  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   17:34   0:00 [kflushd]
root 3  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   17:34   0:00 [kupdate]
root 4  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   17:34   0:00 [kpiod]
root 5  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   17:34   0:00 [kswapd]



printtool ya es oficial (Aviso para los que usan el mío)

1999-10-05 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
Hola a todos,

He visto hace unos días que Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha decidido
mantener oficialmente el paquete printtool, con las utilidades de redhat
para impresora, y que éste ya está disponible para potato.

Para los que utilizáis el que me hice yo y puse en la red, es
recomendable bajo todos los puntos de vista que os acualicéis al de
Rafael, ya que me imagino que estará mucho mejor mantenido. Como depende
únicamente de wish y perl5, los que utilicéis slink no lo podéis
utilizar todavía, por una cuestión de dependencias, ya que me parece que
el perl de slink no ofrece perl5, aunque creo que funcionaría bien,
salvo que dslect os recordaría todo el rato que falta perl5. En una
próxima versión quitará la dependencia, ya que en realidad depende sólo
de perl-base.

En el printtool que ya está en potato, los dos paquetes printtool y
rhs-printfilters (y parte del control-panel) están ahora juntos en uno
sólo, printtool, que incluye todo lo necesario. 

En una de las versiones mías se me deslizó un desvío (diversion) erróneo
en el postinst, que en la prática impide purgar bien rhs-printfilters.
De momento instalando primero la versión que está en este momento en mi
página
(http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/linux/store/debian/rhs-printfilters_1.51-3_i386.deb)
se elimina al problema. Rafael Kitover incluirá una solución similar en
su próxima versión.

Si tienes instalado el mío y vas a instalar el oficial, estos son los
pasos que debes hacer:

 1. Haz una copia de seguridad de /etc/printcap con otro nombre.  
 2. Instala mi paquete nuevo. Puedes evitar este paso si en vez de hacer
1)
simplemente renombras /etc/printcap. En cualquier caso, una copia de
seguridad con otro nombre nunca está de más 
 3. Purga los paquetes anteriores: 
dpkg --purge printtool rhs-printfilters 
 4. Si lo has cambiado de nombre en 2), deshaz el cambio de nombre.  
 5. Instala el nuevo printtool. 
 6. Rehaz las impresoras. No necesitas introducir de nuevo todos los
datos,
simplemente velos con el printtool y al salir te lo habrá rehecho. 

El paso 6) es necesario para que todo funcione, ya que el paquete de
redhat copia para cada impresora el (mismo) filtro maestro que tiene la
dirección de los demás filtros. Como las direcciones han cambiado con el
nuevo printtool, es necesario que los filtros en cada directorio de
spool cambien.

A los que lo habéis utilizado, gracias, y si necesitáis alguna ayuda, ya
sabéis donde estoy

Saludos,

-- 
=
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(U. Politécnica de Madrid)  tel: +34 91-336-6536, Fax: +34 91-336-6554, 
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html


Re: la ñ no sale con su?

1999-10-05 Thread Manuel Fonseca
el Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:11:56AM -0300, Daniel H. Perez dijo:
 Hola
 Probaste con su - ?
 Saludos

Hola acabo de hacerlo pero... igual, creo que es por el export LANG=C del
.bashrc

slaudos.

=

 Manuel Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 casi proyecto Aguila-Linux-Terrassa

=


Re: la ñ no sale con su?

1999-10-05 Thread Manuel Fonseca
el Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 04:51:05PM -0400, Blu dijo:
  Hola una preguntilla, por que cuando estoy en mi home de user hago un ls y
  veo las ñ y cuando hago su, en mi home hago un ls me sale en las eñes un
  interrogante?
 
 
 Debe ser que tienes definida la variable de entorno LANG=C en root, lo cual 
 al parecer no es
 mala idea porque algunos softwares de instalacion se confunden si esta 
 definida como otra
 cosa.
 


Pues tienes razon! si que tengo la variable export LANG=C, y en el
/etc/environment:
LANG=es_ES.ISO-8859-1
por lo visto manda el .bashrc, diga lo que diga envorinment.

saludines.

=

 Manuel Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 casi proyecto Aguila-Linux-Terrassa

=


Re: `kpiod' !?

1999-10-05 Thread Manuel Fonseca
el Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:02:38PM +0200, Cosme Perea Cuevas dijo:
 veo al hacer `ps aux' un demonio  que no me suena de nada y no
 encuentro página  man, ejecutable,  o algo  que me  aclare que
 hace,
 
 root 3  0.0  0.0 0 0  ?  SW  Sep 30   0:00 (kpiod)
 
Hola! yo tambien lo tengo, pero no se tampoco que hace ahi, no sera algo
como:
un demonio del kernel para los proceso de entrada y salida? o estoy flipando
pegamento, ssguramente esto ultimo X-D

saludos.


-- 
=

 Manuel Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 casi proyecto Aguila-Linux-Terrassa

=


Re: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

1999-10-05 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona

Desde luego. Se ha hablado mucho de ese libro en debian-devel
hace unas semanas. Creo que anunciaban su venta para octubre, o algo
as'i. Me temo que tendr'an que retrasarla... :-(

Jesus.

Jaime Fernández Martínez writes:
  En Amazon venden un libro titulado Debian Gnu/Linux 2.2 Unleashed y
  dicen que incluye CD-ROM.  No ando muy fino con el tema de las
  versiones, pero ¿la última versión no es la 2.1? 
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  --
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Re: `kpiod' !?

1999-10-05 Thread benjamin
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On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Javier López wrote:

 Cosme Perea Cuevas wrote:
  Hola,
  veo al hacer `ps aux' un demonio  que no me suena de nada y no
  encuentro página  man, ejecutable,  o algo  que me  aclare que
  hace,
 
 Haz dpkg -S kpiod y así verás el paquete al que pertenece. 

Pues me uno a la pregunta:

~ ps aux | grep kpio
root 4  0.0  0.0 0 0  ?  SW  Oct  4   0:00 (kpiod)

~ locate kpio
~

~ dpkg -S kpio
dpkg: *kpio* no encontrado.

~ findex slink kpio
~

~ apt-cache search kpio
~

Pues no lo encuentro por ningún lado :-m


Benjamín Albiñana Pérez
Linux User Nº78177
Mantén limpios tus grupos de noticias. Combate activamente el spam.
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Alguna impresora laser pa Linux?

1999-10-05 Thread M. Angel Esteban
Hola!

Resulta que querría ponerme una buena impresora láser que rule
bajo Linux al 100% de sus posibilidades.

¿Alguna Sugerencia?

Bye!
--
M. Angel Esteban
486DX2-66 Running Linux Debian Slink 2.1 (2.0.36)

http://jarre.timofonica.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Una sobre puertos.

1999-10-05 Thread Raul GN
Gracias a las news he descubierto como ver qué puertos estan a la escucha 
(netstat -a), y claro aquí es donde han empezado mis dudas. He logado
identificar todos los puertos habiertos... salvo uno, un tal sunrpc que
habre el demonio portmap, sin embargo, su pagina man es un tanto criptica:

 Portmap is a server that converts RPC program numbers into DARPA 
 protocol port numbers.  It must be running in order to make RPC calls.

Y claro, la cuestiones son: ¿Qué son 'números de programa RPC'? ¿Qué son 
los 'números de puerto del protocolo DARPA'? Vale, esto ultimo intuyo lo 
que es, son los números de puerto: 21 - telnet, 25 - smtp,... ¿no?. Lo de 
DARPA no me suena nada.

En el listado de puertos abiertos hay dos entradas que me intrigan:
raw0  0 *:1 *:*
raw0  0 *:6 *:*

¿Me podeis explicar cual es su función?  ¿Qué tipo de protocolo es raw?

Gracias y un saludo.

-- 

...No soy uno de esos que piensa que Bill Gates es el diablo. Yo, 
simplemente sospecho que si Microsoft se encontrara con el diablo, no
necesitarian un interprete.Nick Petreley
__
Raúl González [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Powered by Debian GNU/LiNuX Slink
Linux User #99718


Problemas para imprimir

1999-10-05 Thread daniel
Hola

Mis problemas para imprimir son de lo más extraños... cuando intento hacer un 
cat archivo  /dev/lpx cuando x es el numero que sea, aunque es el 1 donde esta 
la impresora, siempre me sale el error /dev/lp1 no such device ein?? ¿pero 
qué leches pasa? ¿Alguna idea?

Grax de antemano
-- 

   Daniel Ferradal
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Usuario Registrado de Linux # 128322 
http://pagina.de/tezra
 


SB LIVE!

1999-10-05 Thread daniel
¿Alguien sabe por qué los mentecatos de Creative han puesto en la web de nuevo 
el driver 0.2b cuando ya llevaban meses poniendo el 0.3b? ¿Se les ha ido la 
olla?


-- 

   Daniel Ferradal
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Usuario Registrado de Linux # 128322 
http://pagina.de/tezra
 


Necesito ayuda con el exim.

1999-10-05 Thread Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz
Saludos.

Ya me he montado un mini-servidor http/ftp/pop3, y claro, ahora estoy
peleándome con lo de los emails que vienen de otras partes de la red
local. La situación es que hay un ordenador que tiene conexión con
internet, y tiene cuentas de email. El resto de los ordenadores lo usan
como servidor pop3 local, y smtp también.

El invento funciona, y puedo mandar para fuera y para dentro de la red sin
problemas. Sin embargo, en el exim tengo configurado, que siempre que
pilla una dirección [EMAIL PROTECTED], me la reescribe a [EMAIL PROTECTED], dado
que sólo tengo una dirección de email.

Pues bueno, me reescribe el from, pero ¡de todos los emails! Es decir,
los mails locales también son reescritos a [EMAIL PROTECTED], por lo que un
reply no funciona, teniendo que cambiar manualmente la dirección a donde
se va a responder, por la dirección local de email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

He intentado usar el flag q de las rewritting-rules, pero sólo se aplica
si el resto de las rewritting rules para una determinada dirección
_también_ cumplen los mismos flaqs.

Es decir, que algo como:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] tTq
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  F

no funciona, porque la segunda línea no tiene los flags tT.

¿Se ve lo que quiero hacer? He releído el manual del exim, y no parece ser
que haya forma alguna de hacer una especie de if/else con las
rewritting-rules :-(

¿Alguien tiene una idea de qué puedo hacer?

Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/

Error: Windows could not find error message.


Re: VERY Strange Problem since last update

1999-10-05 Thread Todd Suess




You mean a process _named_ pdmenu is doing this, I'll bet.


Yes



I'll also bet you'll find several dozen update-menus processes running. If
you do, tell me what version of menu you have installed.



tsuess:~# pdmenu --version
Pdmenu 1.2.47 GPL Copyright (c) 1995, 1996, 1997 by Joey Hess 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

tsuess:~#



tsuess:~# dpkg --status pdmenu
Package: pdmenu
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: shells
Installed-Size: 115
Maintainer: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 1.2.47
Depends: libc6 (= 2.1), libgpmg1 (= 1.14-3), libncurses4 (= 4.2-3.1), 
slang1 ( 1.2.2-0)

Suggests: menu (= 1.4)
Conflicts: menu ( 1.4)
Conffiles:
 /etc/pdmenurc 550cd06dbf50b0ded1f1ce5922f62e7e
 /etc/menu-methods/pdmenu ab755c31fcb558f7edf6d69237a3f6f0
Description: Simple full screen menu program.
 A simple full screen menu program, intended to be comfortable
 login shell for inexperienced users.
 .
 Pdmenu interfaces with Debian's menu system, to provide
 automatically-generated lists of installed programs.

tsuess:~#

Not several dozen, but I have noticed a few running, others may be running at
a lower priority or something so as not to appear in the upper portion of the
top screen I am viewing.



l.

Yes, these are not pdmenu and afterstep, they are menu programs in
/etc/menu-methods/. They are updating your menu files. They tend to be
rather heavy on the cpu but should not be hitting it this hard. Either
you're seeing an old menu bug that made many of them be run at once, or some
other bug in menu that I don't know of.


That makes perfect sense.  I have been installing right along from the unstable
branch,  this is the first time a problem like this popped up.

Thanks for the feedback!


Re: VERY Strange Problem since last update

1999-10-05 Thread Joey Hess
Todd Suess wrote:
 I'll also bet you'll find several dozen update-menus processes running. If
 you do, tell me what version of menu you have installed.

No, of _menu_ , not _pdmenu_.

 Not several dozen, but I have noticed a few running, others may be running at
 a lower priority or something so as not to appear in the upper portion of the
 top screen I am viewing.

Do: ps -ax | grep update-menus.

 Yes, these are not pdmenu and afterstep, they are menu programs in
 /etc/menu-methods/. They are updating your menu files. They tend to be
 rather heavy on the cpu but should not be hitting it this hard. Either
 you're seeing an old menu bug that made many of them be run at once, or some
 other bug in menu that I don't know of.
 
 That makes perfect sense.  I have been installing right along from the 
 unstable
 branch,  this is the first time a problem like this popped up.
 
 Thanks for the feedback!

-- 
see shy jo


Re: problem locating ndbm.h but it is there

1999-10-05 Thread Salman Ahmed
 Pollywog == Pollywog  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Pollywog This is weird.  I have ndbm.h but when I run configure, it
Pollywog says it is not on my system.  Any ideas as to what might be
Pollywog wrong?


Pollywog gcc -c -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I../compface -DFACES
Pollywog -DUSE_SOUND -I.  -I../mail -I../pixmap -I../editor
Pollywog -I/usr/X11R6/include ../mail/uucode.c gcc -c -g -O2
Pollywog -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I../compface -DFACES -DUSE_SOUND -I.
Pollywog -I../mail -I../pixmap -I../editor -I/usr/X11R6/include
Pollywog ../mail/mime.c gcc -c -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I../compface
Pollywog -DFACES -DUSE_SOUND -I.  -I../mail -I../pixmap -I../editor
Pollywog -I/usr/X11R6/include ../mail/imap.c gcc -c -g -O2
Pollywog -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I../compface -DFACES -DUSE_SOUND -I.
Pollywog -I../mail -I../pixmap -I../editor -I/usr/X11R6/include
Pollywog ../mail/cache.c ../mail/cache.c:25: ndbm.h: No such file or
Pollywog directory make[1]: *** [cache.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving
Pollywog directory `/home/pollywog/xfmail-1.3.2pre1/ui' make: ***
Pollywog [all] Error 2

Pollywog but 'locate ndbm.h' shows


I had the exact same problem you describe a couple of days ago when I was
building XEmacs-20.4 from raw (ie non-debianized) source tarballs. You
didn't say what you were attempting to compile.

The problem is that the directory containing ndbm.h is not in the standard
include path that the build process is using for compiling. You have to
explicitly specify at least one include path that contains the ndbm.h
directory. If you are using the configure script supplied with the
app/package, one way to do this is:

./configure --site-includes=/usr/include/db1  (rest of the options)

Check the configure script supplied with the app and see what the exact
option is to specify additional include directories (try ./configure
--help), though the --site-includes option is a pretty standard way of
specifying additional include dirs.

This solved my problem.

HTH,

-- 
Salman Ahmed
ssahmed AT interlog DOT com


Re: VERY Strange Problem since last update

1999-10-05 Thread Todd Suess

At 04:15 PM 10/4/1999 -0700, Joey Hess wrote:

Todd Suess wrote:
 I'll also bet you'll find several dozen update-menus processes running. If
 you do, tell me what version of menu you have installed.

No, of _menu_ , not _pdmenu_.



tsuess:~# dpkg --status menu
Package: menu
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 1179
Maintainer: joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 2.1.3-2
Depends: libc6 (= 2.1), libstdc++2.10
Conflicts: pdmenu (= 0.5.9)
Conffiles:
 /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus 2669426d33d2794a3e72bb2743dc8bdc
 /etc/menu-methods/menu.h c7b97b973c5f73625813cbdff8388f66
 /etc/menu-methods/menu.config ae6ec52278a5f4abf37db7f9955069ec


 Not several dozen, but I have noticed a few running, others may be 
running at
 a lower priority or something so as not to appear in the upper portion 
of the

 top screen I am viewing.

Do: ps -ax | grep update-menus.


I will the next time this repeats, I suspect you are correct tho that there 
are many update-menus

running, and that is actually causing the thrashing of the harddrive.


fax page size

1999-10-05 Thread zdrysdal
Hi

i am using mgetty/sendfax to send faxes but unfortunately it sends the
faxes in a stretched format... Where abouts can i change it so that it
faxes as A5?


thanx



Re: In case anyone was wondering where kde.tdyc.com went.

1999-10-05 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 06:03:37PM -0400, B. Szyszka wrote:
 Is there any particular reason why the Debian and/or KDE mirror sites
 don't offer the apt sources? Getting at least half of the KDE mirrors out
 there to mirror the apt sources would be heaven. Gnome has a buttload
 of apt sources, why can't KDE?
 
  Debian folk have determined that the QT license is incompatible with
  the GPL. Hence, KDE stuff is bound to a non-free license... I'm not
  sure it makes a lot of sense considering the other non-free software
  that is distributed...
-- 
++
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++


Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread Oki DZ


Ben Collins wrote:
 After booting the rescue disk, the install is
 pretty much the same as an i386 install.

I'm quite familiar with Slackware Linux; is there any difference in the
installation procedures between Slackware and Debian Linux?
My only concern is that Debian Linux doesn't support Sparc Classic due
to the age of the machine.

Oki


Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread Oki DZ


Andrew Hately wrote:
 I tried both the 2.2.1 kernel rescue disc and the 2.0.36 on my
 sparcstation2; the newer one didn't seem to be able to eject the floppy when
 the next one was needed.

Interesting... then how did you proceed? As far as I know, Suns don't
have  eject buttons on their floppy drives.

 Otherwise, its just like the i386 install, as Ben said.

It would be different with installing Slackware on x86 I suppose...

 To find out how to get the sun to boot from floppy, the debain install pages
 guide you to sun's boot prompt web pages. Something like setenv
 boot_device=floppy is needed; but check this - I did it once, months ago...

Is it for Solaris or Debian? (or both?)

BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
with
Solaris right out the boxes? The only reason I'm asking about Debian on
Sun is that I think it's an interesting alternative since the Classic
where I have an access to doesn't have Solaris on it (the CDs I mean).

Oki


Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread William T Wilson
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Oki DZ wrote:

 Interesting... then how did you proceed? As far as I know, Suns don't
 have  eject buttons on their floppy drives.

Some do.

 BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
 with Solaris right out the boxes? The only reason I'm asking about

Maybe your SunOS/Solaris is way obsolete and you don't want to pay to
upgrade it.  Maybe you have an all-Linux setup (could happen, especially
on a home/small business network).  Maybe you just want to be different.
Somebody must have wanted it, otherwise it wouldn't exist :}


Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 07:11:33AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
 
 
 Ben Collins wrote:
  After booting the rescue disk, the install is
  pretty much the same as an i386 install.
 
 I'm quite familiar with Slackware Linux; is there any difference in the
 installation procedures between Slackware and Debian Linux?
 My only concern is that Debian Linux doesn't support Sparc Classic due
 to the age of the machine.

IMO, the Debian install is a lot simpler. As I said Debian supports what the
kernel supports, which is any sun4c, sun4m, and sun4d (we also support sun4u,
ultrasparc, with the proper kernel). SPARC Classic is a sun4c, the same cpu
type of the SPARC Station 1 that I have been running Debian on succesfully
(including the latest unstable version of Debian, potato).

Hope this helps,
  Ben


Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 07:12:44AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
 BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
 with
 Solaris right out the boxes? The only reason I'm asking about Debian on
 Sun is that I think it's an interesting alternative since the Classic
 where I have an access to doesn't have Solaris on it (the CDs I mean).

Linux is faster on the old suns than Solaris.

Ben


Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread David Teague
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, William T Wilson wrote:

 On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Oki DZ wrote:
 
  BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
  with Solaris right out the boxes? The only reason I'm asking about
 
 Maybe your SunOS/Solaris is way obsolete and you don't want to pay
 to  upgrade it.  Maybe you have an all-Linux setup (could happen,
 especially  on a home/small business network).  Maybe you just
 want to be different. Somebody must have wanted it, otherwise
 it wouldn't exist :}

We inherited a Sun from our University Computer Center. We installed
Debian Linux on the Sun immediately, dumping whatever OS was on it.

We do have an all Debian/Windows 9x setup. The Sun serves Win9x
applications to machines in the student lab.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I'm hoping this is all of the above!)



Re: In case anyone was wondering where kde.tdyc.com went.

1999-10-05 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  4 Oct, Eric G . Miller wrote about Re: In case anyone was wondering 
where kde.tdyc.com went.
 On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 06:03:37PM -0400, B. Szyszka wrote:
 Is there any particular reason why the Debian and/or KDE mirror sites
 don't offer the apt sources? Getting at least half of the KDE mirrors out
 there to mirror the apt sources would be heaven. Gnome has a buttload
 of apt sources, why can't KDE?
  
   Debian folk have determined that the QT license is incompatible with
   the GPL. Hence, KDE stuff is bound to a non-free license... I'm not
   sure it makes a lot of sense considering the other non-free software
   that is distributed...

It is not that Qt is incomaptible it is the fact that KDE is linked to
software under a non GPL license and KDE is under the GPL.  This
violates the GPL. See http://www.debian.org/News/1998/19981008 for all
the specifics.  Keep in mind that this is for Qt v1, Qt v2 is under a
different license so things are starting to change for the better.


-- 
Brian Servis

Mechanical Engineering  |  Never criticize anybody until you  
Purdue University   |  have walked a mile in their shoes,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  because by that time you will be a
http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis   |  mile away and have their shoes.


Re: HTML support for ispell

1999-10-05 Thread David Coe
peter karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What do you think about this? I downloaded the Debian ispell sources and
 applied the patches, and they work like a charm here. Would be nice to have
 in the official package, if possible!

Thanks, I'll see what I can do -- this looks promising.





dpkg error: I am unable to fix this

1999-10-05 Thread Pollywog
dpkg is giving me an error which I am unable to fix.  Is this a bug?

lilypad:/home/pollywog#dpkg --configure -a
dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0012' near line 1:
 newline in field name `#padding'

--
Andrew


Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 07:12:44AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:

 BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
 with
 Solaris right out the boxes? The only reason I'm asking about Debian on
 Sun is that I think it's an interesting alternative since the Classic
 where I have an access to doesn't have Solaris on it (the CDs I mean).

I have an ELC sitting behind me but no Solaris, and a few Sun/3s of
various vintages.  None of them have a copy of SunOS or Solaris, since
they were all second hand.  There's probably a lot of people in my boat.

I imagine I could get one of the cheap licenses from Sun, but I thought
I'd take a look at the Debian port (NetBSD in the case of the /3s)
first.  There's also the fact that Debian is less revolting (or at least
more familiar - though they might be the same thing) to use than Solaris.
It ships with a compiler for one thing, avoiding one of the more boring
parts of bootstrapping a Solaris system.

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Re: In case anyone was wondering where kde.tdyc.com went.

1999-10-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 04:42:59PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 06:03:37PM -0400, B. Szyszka wrote:
  Is there any particular reason why the Debian and/or KDE mirror sites
  don't offer the apt sources? Getting at least half of the KDE mirrors out
  there to mirror the apt sources would be heaven. Gnome has a buttload
  of apt sources, why can't KDE?

   Debian folk have determined that the QT license is incompatible with
   the GPL. Hence, KDE stuff is bound to a non-free license... I'm not
   sure it makes a lot of sense considering the other non-free software
   that is distributed...

The non-freeness isn't such an issue as the fact that the restrictions
in the GPL make it illegal to distribute KDE binaries.  You're not
allowed to combine code under the GPL with code under a more restrictive
license (such as the QT one) and distribute the results.  The chances of
anyone trying to sue because of KDE are minimal, but since pretty much
all Debian resources are donated and we encourage third parties to sell
and distribute our stuff it is felt that paranoia is the best policy.

As to why KDE don't provide mirror space for Debian packages, I don't
know.  It could be political, although that is completely uninformed
speculation.

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Re: PCI Soundcard

1999-10-05 Thread Shannon

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] write
s:

 The best bargain in the business has got to be the Creative Ensoniq
 PCI128.  I bought a card at CompUSA for under $30.00.  It's based on
 the ENS1371 chipset and works well with standard kernel (2.2) and ALSA
 drivers.  I have used both drivers and have settled on ALSA.

Could you detail why you settled on ALSA?


RE: dpkg error: I am unable to fix this

1999-10-05 Thread Pollywog

On 05-Oct-99 Pollywog wrote:
 dpkg is giving me an error which I am unable to fix.  Is this a bug?
 
 lilypad:/home/pollywog#dpkg --configure -a
 dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0012' near line 1:
  newline in field name `#padding'

I figured it out.  The configuration script tries to start bind without
stopping it first, and that messes everything up.  I stopped bind and then ran
the script and all went well.  The dpkg error has gone away.

--
Andrew


Re: Shell bash

1999-10-05 Thread Miles Bader
Brian Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It is set up with autoconf(make sure your system has autoconf installed,
 it is a gnu package as well) so you should be able to just do
 
  ./configure --prefix=~/bash root
  make
  make install

Just a note -- you don't need to have autoconf installed to run the
configure script, only if you want to change configure.in.

Cheers,

-Miles
-- 
Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra.  Suddenly it flips over,
pinning you underneath.  At night the ice weasels come.  --Nietzsche


SoundBlaster128

1999-10-05 Thread Timothy Hospedales
I've read the list archives on SB128 topics and  tried both the OSS and 
Alsa modules.
But whenever I try to do anything I get a No such device error like so:

frontier:/dev# ls -al dsp
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root9 Oct  5 02:00 dsp - /dev/dsp0
frontier:/dev# cat ~/english.au  ./dsp
bash: ./dsp: No such device
frontier:/dev# 

Any ideas what i'm doing wrong to be getting this?

Also
frontier:/dev# cat /dev/sndstat
cat: /dev/sndstat: No such device

frontier:/dev# cat /proc/asound/cards 
0 [card1  ]: AudioPCI - Ensoniq AudioPCI
 Ensoniq AudioPCI ES1371 at 0xe800, irq 10

frontier:/dev# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
snd-pcm1-oss   12972   0  (unused)
snd-card-ens13712192   0 
snd-ens1371 7184   0  [snd-card-ens1371]
snd-pcm1   16380   0  [snd-pcm1-oss snd-ens1371]
snd-timer   7324   0  [snd-pcm1]
snd-ac97-codec 19840   0  [snd-ens1371]
snd-mixer  24544   0  [snd-card-ens1371 snd-ac97-codec]
snd-midi   12236   0  [snd-card-ens1371 snd-ens1371]
snd-pcm 8620   0  [snd-pcm1-oss snd-card-ens1371 snd-pcm1]
snd33292   1  [snd-pcm1-oss snd-card-ens1371 
snd-ens1371 snd-pcm1 snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-midi snd-pcm]
soundcore   2116   4  [snd]

etc


Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tim


Re: Using dselect

1999-10-05 Thread Brad
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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Randy M.Kaplan wrote:

 I am trying to understand how to use dselect to install packages. When
 I start dselect and select the select option, the list I get looks
 like there are many packages that will be installed - for example, all
 of the required packages.

 Since these have already been installed (as part of the initial
 install of the OS), how to I tell dselect that I only want to install
 a particular package (in this case XFree86). It looks to me that if I
 run dselect the way it apprears that all of the packages marked for
 installation will be installed, including the one I want installed. Is
 this true? What am I missing?

You're misinterpreting the display. The three stars indicate (from left to
right) that the package is currently installed, that it was marked for
install when you entered the screen, and that it should remain installed.
Occasionally you'll see a character to the right of these three symbols
indicating an error status. Read the help (press '?') for more information
on this.

There's three basic headings a *** package can be under: --- Up to date
installed packages ---, --- Updated packages (newer version is
available) ---, and --- Obsolete and local packages present on system
- ---. If it's under 'updated', that means a newer version is available.
'Obsolete' means that it's not on any of the Debian mirrors you told it to
check. 'Up to date' means that you have the newest version available.

A package marked for installation will have either '-' or '_' as the
leftmost of those three characters, and '*' as the rightmost. A package
marked for uninstallation will have '*' as the leftmost and '-' or '_' as
the rightmost. A package that is installed and should stay installed will
have '*' as it's left and right characters. A package that isn't installed
and should not be installed will have '_' or '-' for left and right
characters. '-' in all cases means that config files are still on the
system (so you don't have to modify them anew if you reinstall the
package), while '_' means that config files have been removed. The center
character always indicates the state of the rightmost character when you
first entered the selection screen, in case you want to reset your changes
(using the 'R' option, perhaps).

Sorry if this message is a bit confusing, dselect is a rather complex
program. But if you read the help, and the docs on the Debian website, you
should be ok.


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Re: dpkg error: I am unable to fix this

1999-10-05 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Pollywog wrote:

 dpkg is giving me an error which I am unable to fix.  Is this a bug?
 
 lilypad:/home/pollywog#dpkg --configure -a
 dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0012' near line 1:
  newline in field name `#padding'

Erase the file it names, it is a bug.

Jason


Re: Shell bash

1999-10-05 Thread Scott Henry
 M == Manuel Arenaz Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

M Hello,
M In my work in have to use some machines where the bash shell is not
M available. Normally, these machine have Solaris or IRIX installed. When
M I connect to those machines I have to use other different shells which I
M am not used to using. You can  imagine how embarrasing is this
M situation.

For IRIX, you can get a pre-compiled copy of bash from
http://freeware.sgi.com/ which will install it as
/usr/freeware/bin/bash. If the host is running IRIX6.5 or later, the
admin may have installed the gnu package, which includes bash (as
/usr/gnu/bin/bash). There are ways to install it in your homedir if
you don't have admin priviledges (or can' convince the admin to
install it). see the -r /root option to inst/swmgr.

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TIFF Files: thanks

1999-10-05 Thread Carl Fink
Thanks to everyone who wrote.  I had used many other image viewers and
editors under Linux, but not ImageMagick, which works perfectly.

(By the way:  the Windows 3.1 client from www.efax.com runs perfectly
under wine 990927!)
-- 
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http://dm.net


RE: In case anyone was wondering where kde.tdyc.com went.

1999-10-05 Thread B. Szyszka
  Is there any particular reason why the Debian and/or KDE mirror sites
  don't offer the apt sources? Getting at least half of the KDE mirrors out
  there to mirror the apt sources would be heaven. Gnome has a buttload
  of apt sources, why can't KDE?
   Debian folk have determined that the QT license is incompatible with
   the GPL. Hence, KDE stuff is bound to a non-free license... I'm not
   sure it makes a lot of sense considering the other non-free software
   that is distributed...
OK, but what about the KDE folks, then? Why don't the mirrors for KDE have
apt-ing setup?

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Re: fatal error in SO 5.1

1999-10-05 Thread Brad
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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:

 Damir J. Naden wrote:
  
  Hi Brad; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
  
   Except for the problems with threaded system(3) calls in ove of the glibc
   2.1.2 prereleases, all the solutions you mention solve problems for
   StarOffice 5.01 (which had problems with glibc 2.1), not StarOffice 5.1.
 
   There may have been problems with earlier versions of SO, I only showed
 up for 5.1, however there *were* glibc2.1 problems for SO 5.1. 

1) Are you sure 5.1, and not 5.01? This seems to cause some confusion.
2) Are you _sure_ is wasn't the problem with threaded system(3) calls in
   one of the 2.1.2 prereleases? Given the information you give below, it
   distinctly sounds like you ran into this bug and not a bug in SO 5.1.

   Especially since i have SO 5.1 from StarDivision before Sun bought
   them, and it works fine (although it is a memory hog...)

 The first version I downloaded from the Star Division web site failed
 after an upgrade of glibc2.1 of the potato distribution.  I made an
 attempt to have both glibc2.07 and glibc2.1 on the system to get SO to
 work, but the instructions failed for me.  For me the solution was
 solved (not exactly sure) when I downloaded the new SO tarball
 (so51a_lnx_01.tar, note the a) from Sun's website (stardivision.com
 will now redirect to sun.com).  This one worked without problems with
 glibc2.1.x.  There were however later upgrades to glibc in that time,
 but I think it wasn't glibc, they did something with the new version
  ^^^
Why? Circumstances point more towards the glibc problem mentioned above.

 of SO to solve the problem.
 

[[[ SNIP ]]]

   With glibc2.0.x, the original tarball from stardivision.com would work
 fine, but that version only works for systems with glibc2.0.x.  Those
 who have upgraded to glibc2.1 either have to modify their system (and
 install two versions of glibc), or download the newer tarball from Sun.

Wrong by proof to the contrary. i have the StarDivision tarball for 5.1
installed and working fine with the latest potato glibc (version 2.1.2-5).
The ldd command indicates that it is using the Debian installed glibc 2.1
libraries.

  $ ldd /usr/local/staroffice51/bin/soffice.bin 
  *random StarOffice libs*
  libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4001b000)
  libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x4001f000)
  libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40031000)
  libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4004e000)
  /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
  $ ls -o /lib/libc.so.6
  lrwxrwxrwx   1 root 13 Sep 28 16:12 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.2.so

Note that if LD_LIBRARY_PATH or other methods were used to load glibc 2.0
libraries at runtime, any StarOffice function that uses the system(3) call
(e.g. printing) would fail due to /bin/sh requiring glibc 2.1. Only by
changing the dynamic links within the StarOffice binary to point to
renamed glibc 2.0 libs can this be avoided, but then the ldd output would
show those changed names instead of the standard ones.


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Wanting to Hire Linux Developer

1999-10-05 Thread Christoph Lameter
Title: Linux Developer

Job Description:

Develop and maintain Debian packages related to our
solution within the standard Debian distribution as well as on our
opensource site (http://opensource.captech.com) as well as on our private
archives. Deploy and configure Debian/Linux systems. Setup and
configuration of diverse hardware (PCs, LAN, WAN) focusing on the Linux
operating system but occasionally including Microsoft NT and other Unix
platforms.

The job includes the duty to keep in touch with the Open Source community
on issues related to our to our business operations and deployment of such
software. Occasionally technical research in literature and the Internet
regarding special topics will be expected.

We are in the process of developing a remote monitoring and management
system. The job might include drawing code together from a variety of
sources in C, Tcl, Java, Perl, shell scripts and other languages as well
as helping with the design and testing of our solution. The job also might
include helping with the coordination of other people involved with
building our solution.

It is expected that the person will develop considerable expertise with
Linux as well as networking and the use of Linux as a server platform. The
ability to troubleshoot and diagnose problems with Linux servers
accurately needs to be developed for the support of our networks
operations department.

CapTech (http://www.captech.com) is a solid startup in the Bay Area.
Captech has already two Debian developers on staff.

Required Expertise:
* Linux
* TCP/IP
* Basic knowledge of Open Source methods and customs.
* Volunteer for at least the last 12 month in an Open Source project

Required Skills: 
* Programming knowledge in C and script languages
  (bash, perl, tcl, java) 
* Ability to communicate in an business environment with
  a diversity of platforms and software solutions.

Desired:
* Debian Developer
* Knowledge of firewalling, NAT, Routing, WAN and VPN technologies
* Network Management know-how.

Compensation:
* Competitive pay for the San Francisco Bay Area.
* Moving Bonus!


Re: pcmcia net card does not show up in ifconfig listing.

1999-10-05 Thread Brad
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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:

 Is there any place to specify what drivers must be compiled (like in
 make menuconfig when using something like an NE2000 on a desktop)?

IIRC, all pcmcia modules are compiled by default, even ones you have no
need for with your particular laptop.

As for the original problem, are you sure there's no IRQ conflicts? At one
point i was troubleshooting a RedHat laptop (not mine or it would've been
Debian ;) where the network card would only function when the cdrom/floppy
wedge was not attached. I found a message in the logs that made me suspect
that the system couldn't assign an IRQ for the card and so refused to
insmod the module. In that case, the problem was fixed by adding an option
to the pcmcia configuration file telling the card insertion monitor to use
a PCI IRQ.

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Martin Fluch wrote:
 
  Whenever I upgrade Debian, the PCMCIA stuff stops working, and I make
  a new PCMCIA modules package and install it and that fixes the
  problem.

 That stuff belongs to /etc/pcmcia/network.opts ... and then you won't 
 have these upgrading problems ... further you will be able to select
 differend schemes, e.g. different network settings when you are at home,
 at work or somewhere else...

Depending on what is meant by Whenever I upgrade Debian, that may not be
correct. If the intended meaning is Whenever I upgrade the kernel, then
a new PCMCIA package is required before any PCMCIA will work.

/etc/pcmcia/network.opts is the correct place for PCMCIA network card
options, though.


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Re: Latest netstd and xinetd

1999-10-05 Thread Brad
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On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, peter karlsson wrote:

 Is anyone here using xinetd and also having problems with the latest netstd
 update? I get this:
 
 # dpkg --pending --configure
 Setting up netbase (3.16-3) ...
 update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/inetd: file does not exist
 dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  netbase

The problem is that xinetd diverts /etc/init.d/inetd, but doesn't replace
it with anything. Or, conversely, the problem is that netbase depends on
/etc/init.d/inetd not being diverted ;)

I put the attached as /etc/init.d/inetd, it seems to work around this
problem temporarily... A better solution would be to either have xinetd
put something in place of the diverted inetd, or have netbase check to see
if /etc/init.d/inetd exists before trying to manipulate it.


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Re: PCI Soundcard

1999-10-05 Thread Brad
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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Shannon wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] write
 s:
 
  The best bargain in the business has got to be the Creative Ensoniq
  PCI128.  I bought a card at CompUSA for under $30.00.  It's based on
  the ENS1371 chipset and works well with standard kernel (2.2) and ALSA
  drivers.  I have used both drivers and have settled on ALSA.
 
 Could you detail why you settled on ALSA?

On a slightly unrelated note, i settled on ALSA for my SoundBlaster 16PnP
because the OSS drivers in the kernel only support the card in half
duplex, while the ALSA drivers support full duplex.


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hd (?) light (red) always on

1999-10-05 Thread Peter Mickle
hi-

does anyone know why the harddrive light (red) might always be illuminated
while running under slink? on the same machine, i also have winNT installed,
and whenever it is running, the light comes on only periodically, while
opening an application for example.

any opinion as to whether this might be hazardous to the machine?

thanks - 

peter


Re: fatal error in SO 5.1

1999-10-05 Thread Ed Cogburn
Brad wrote:
 
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 On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
 
  Damir J. Naden wrote:
  
   Hi Brad; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
   
Except for the problems with threaded system(3) calls in ove of the 
glibc
2.1.2 prereleases, all the solutions you mention solve problems for
StarOffice 5.01 (which had problems with glibc 2.1), not StarOffice 5.1.
 
There may have been problems with earlier versions of SO, I only 
  showed
  up for 5.1, however there *were* glibc2.1 problems for SO 5.1.
 
 1) Are you sure 5.1, and not 5.01? This seems to cause some confusion.


It was 5.1 from stardivision.com before being bought out by Sun.


 2) Are you _sure_ is wasn't the problem with threaded system(3) calls in
one of the 2.1.2 prereleases? Given the information you give below, it
distinctly sounds like you ran into this bug and not a bug in SO 5.1.
 
Especially since i have SO 5.1 from StarDivision before Sun bought
them, and it works fine (although it is a memory hog...)


I don't know the details about the system(3) call problem.  Your last
sentence here is very different from my experience.  See below.


 
  The first version I downloaded from the Star Division web site failed
  after an upgrade of glibc2.1 of the potato distribution.  I made an
  attempt to have both glibc2.07 and glibc2.1 on the system to get SO to
  work, but the instructions failed for me.  For me the solution was
  solved (not exactly sure) when I downloaded the new SO tarball
  (so51a_lnx_01.tar, note the a) from Sun's website (stardivision.com
  will now redirect to sun.com).  This one worked without problems with
  glibc2.1.x.  There were however later upgrades to glibc in that time,
  but I think it wasn't glibc, they did something with the new version
   ^^^
 Why? Circumstances point more towards the glibc problem mentioned above.


Ok, let me try to explain my experience.  I've been upgrading against
potato since its beginning.  When glibc was 2.0.x I downloaded SO5.1
from stardivision.com (before Sun).  I installed it and it worked.  As
the weeks went by I upgraded my potato sys several times a week.  When
the glibc version went to 2.1.x, SO broke.  A message on deb.usr gave a
list of instructions to try, but the instructions failed for me.  I left
SO broke, waiting for a solution, either an update to glibc (2.1), or a
message on deb.usr explaining how to fix it.  No message showed up, and
after several subsequent upgrades of glibc2.1.x, SO remained broke.  At
this point Sun had taken Stardivision over, and put SO
(so51a_lnx_01.tar) up on sun.com for download.  I thought this may be an
updated version (same name as early version but with the addition of the
a).  I downloaded it, installed it, and it worked.

The above experience lead me to believe the newer SO version solved the
problem.  Of course, it goes without saying that I'm probably wrong,
thats why I put the word 'solved' in quotes in my original message.


 
  of SO to solve the problem.
 
 
 [[[ SNIP ]]]
 
With glibc2.0.x, the original tarball from stardivision.com would work
  fine, but that version only works for systems with glibc2.0.x.  Those
  who have upgraded to glibc2.1 either have to modify their system (and
  install two versions of glibc), or download the newer tarball from Sun.
 
 Wrong by proof to the contrary. i have the StarDivision tarball for 5.1
 installed and working fine with the latest potato glibc (version 2.1.2-5).
 The ldd command indicates that it is using the Debian installed glibc 2.1
 libraries.
 
   $ ldd /usr/local/staroffice51/bin/soffice.bin
   *random StarOffice libs*
   libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4001b000)
   libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x4001f000)
   libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40031000)
   libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4004e000)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
   $ ls -o /lib/libc.so.6
   lrwxrwxrwx   1 root 13 Sep 28 16:12 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.2.so
 
 Note that if LD_LIBRARY_PATH or other methods were used to load glibc 2.0
 libraries at runtime, any StarOffice function that uses the system(3) call
 (e.g. printing) would fail due to /bin/sh requiring glibc 2.1. Only by
 changing the dynamic links within the StarOffice binary to point to
 renamed glibc 2.0 libs can this be avoided, but then the ldd output would
 show those changed names instead of the standard ones.


Your probably right.  I deleted the original tarball after getting the
updated version, so some recent update to glibc2.1.x may have solved the
problem, before the new version of SO was out.  Once I had the new
version downloaded, I never stopped to check if the old version would
now work or not.  I assumed it was still broke, so I wiped it and
installed the new SO version, which did work.


-- 
Ed C.


OT: Lucky me-2 boxes at work-what WIRE to connect them?

1999-10-05 Thread kaynjay
Yum, yum... I've come into possession of another box at work.  I want to play
with setting it up using my office machine to masquerade, and play with
Beowulf and computational chemistry.  But I know zilch about this.  I plan to
spend time figuring out the networking myself, but need to know if this can
be accomplished with token-ring cards, and what darned wire to put between
the 2 machines.  Can anyone give me Good news about this?  

One machine has an IBM card.  The other will sport 2 olicom cards (infamous
with 2.2.xx kernels, in my neighborhood anyway... so it'll be 2.0.36/38). 
Can I simply sneak a cable from the lab up the hall, or is there a lot more
to this?

Appreciate any help!

Kenward Vaughan
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Re: PCI Soundcard

1999-10-05 Thread longship
 On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Shannon wrote:
 
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] write
  s:
  
   The best bargain in the business has got to be the Creative Ensoniq
   PCI128.  I bought a card at CompUSA for under $30.00.  It's based on
   the ENS1371 chipset and works well with standard kernel (2.2) and ALSA
   drivers.  I have used both drivers and have settled on ALSA.
  
  Could you detail why you settled on ALSA?
 
 On a slightly unrelated note, i settled on ALSA for my SoundBlaster 16PnP
 because the OSS drivers in the kernel only support the card in half
 duplex, while the ALSA drivers support full duplex.
 
 
 - -- 

I switched to ALSA because it is full duplex as well.  I need this
because I am in the process of configuring Speak Freely.

ALSA isn't perfect, but it is getting pretty darn good.  If you don't
need the fancy features, the default kernel support, especially in the
2.2 kernel, is fine, just not as complete.

Certainly, the 2.2 kernel's ease of use (just compile and reboot and
you're done) has a lot to say for it.  Most modular kernels don't even
need that, just insmod your sound card module and you're done.  I
prefer to custom compile my kernel.  YMMV.

Arne


Netboot swapfile

1999-10-05 Thread Oki DZ
Hi,

It seems that this mailing list is not only talking about Debian
specifics but also Linux in general, so I have questions on Linux
netboot.

Some days ago I installed several Linux clients with no harddisk to boot
from a server. The clients had 32MB RAM; this could be quite a lot, but
for running X apps I thought that swapspaces would still be needed. The
problem was that I couldn't set the swap files for the clients. I tried
it using nfs, but swapon wouldn't work. Is there any possibility to
have swap files on the server to be accessed by the clients via the LAN?

BTW, if you happen to install Linux for netbooting, ps (which needs
/proc) wouldn't work. I worked it around using ramdisks (/dev/ramdisk);
all I needed was to set ramdisk on on the clients' boot floppies
(using rdev) and used the devices later as the mount points for /proc.
The question is, was that the right way to make ps working?  

Oki



Re: Linux/NT dual booting

1999-10-05 Thread Oki DZ


Martin Fields wrote:
 
 For a dual boot - why not go to a computer store and buy one of those things
 where you can swap hard drives like disks?  They are around 30$, then for

This is a physical solution. In computer world, I think it's not that
quite cool.

 linux get a cheap 3 gig. you could run the same, but I would reccomend more
 space for nt.

But not so much more; NT needs the BIOS to get the size of the
harddisks. If you go beyond aprox. 8.7G (1024 cyls.), then the extra
space wouldn't be useful (or you'd need to partition the disks, and get
some headaches due to the fact that LILO has problems in accessing that
size too).

Oki


Re: VERY Strange Problem since last update

1999-10-05 Thread brian moore
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 07:21:16PM -0400, Todd Suess wrote:
 At 04:15 PM 10/4/1999 -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
 Todd Suess wrote:
   I'll also bet you'll find several dozen update-menus processes running. 
   If
   you do, tell me what version of menu you have installed.
 
 No, of _menu_ , not _pdmenu_.

Actually, for me it's been 'install-menu' specifically:

root  4895 28.4 57.8 198652 74056 pts/3  D21:48   0:20 install-menu 
/etc/menu-methods//gnome-panel -f --stdin

or:

root  4937 45.3 33.1 100348 42412 pts/3  R21:53   0:09 install-menu 
/etc/menu-methods//blackbox -f --stdin

etc.

It does that for each and every menu (gnome and each of the wm's).  Like
Todd, this started yesterday for me, and it did it again tonight.

Oddly, it did -not- do it on my machine at work, just my home machine
(which does have some different stuff installed).

 Version: 2.1.3-2

Yep, same version here.

 Do: ps -ax | grep update-menus.
 
 I will the next time this repeats, I suspect you are correct tho that there 
 are many update-menus
 running, and that is actually causing the thrashing of the harddrive.

I was only getting one at a time running, but when I kill one (say the
gnome-panel updater above) it would spawn another for the next thing on
the list that would likewise bloat.

update-menus itself looked fine, it's the demon spawn instal-menu that's
having the problem.

My guess is that Todd and I (and anyone else seeing this) have a package
that upgraded on Sunday that has something bogus in the menu setup and
is confusing install-menu.

198M worth of install-menu is a problem. :)

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Re: fatal error in SO 5.1

1999-10-05 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:

 Brad wrote:

  2) Are you _sure_ is wasn't the problem with threaded system(3) calls in
 one of the 2.1.2 prereleases? Given the information you give below, it
 distinctly sounds like you ran into this bug and not a bug in SO 5.1.
  
 Especially since i have SO 5.1 from StarDivision before Sun bought
 them, and it works fine (although it is a memory hog...)
 
   I don't know the details about the system(3) call problem.  Your last
 sentence here is very different from my experience.  See below.

Check the debian-user mailing list archives, as well as bug report number
43549 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/43/43549.html. Basically, using the
system(3) call [man 3 system, if you have manpages-dev installed] was
doing something non-thread-safe in version glibc 2.1.2-0pre10. This caused
any threaded program that used that call to fail.

   The first version I downloaded from the Star Division web site failed
   after an upgrade of glibc2.1 of the potato distribution.  I made an
   attempt to have both glibc2.07 and glibc2.1 on the system to get SO to
   work, but the instructions failed for me.  For me the solution was
   solved (not exactly sure) when I downloaded the new SO tarball
   (so51a_lnx_01.tar, note the a) from Sun's website (stardivision.com
   will now redirect to sun.com).  This one worked without problems with
   glibc2.1.x.  There were however later upgrades to glibc in that time,
   but I think it wasn't glibc, they did something with the new version
^^^
  Why? Circumstances point more towards the glibc problem mentioned above.
 
 
   Ok, let me try to explain my experience.  I've been upgrading against
 potato since its beginning.  When glibc was 2.0.x I downloaded SO5.1
 from stardivision.com (before Sun). 

This is impossible, since 5.1 was released only after potato was into 2.1.
Are you SURE you're not confusing 5.01 and 5.1 (BTW, that is the stupidest
numbering system i've ever seen. Who at StarDivision came up with it? ... 
Then again, Netscape has 4.05 and 4.5 as well...)

The reason i know this is because of the intense discussion and
workaround-hunting that went on during that period, for version 5.01. Just
after a fully functional solution was found, StarDivision released 5.1
which worked with glibc 2.1. You can check the debian-user archives (try
around May 1999, which is when 5.1 was released IIRC) for more
information.

 I installed it and it worked.  As the weeks went by I upgraded my
 potato sys several times a week.  When the glibc version went to
 2.1.x, SO broke.  A message on deb.usr gave a list of instructions to
 try, but the instructions failed for me.  I left SO broke, waiting for
 a solution, either an update to glibc (2.1), or a message on deb.usr
 explaining how to fix it.  No message showed up, and after several
 subsequent upgrades of glibc2.1.x, SO remained broke. 

The directions posted to the list worked flawlessly for me (as well as a
few others i was in contact with at the time), and 5.1 when it was
released it worked without any modification.

 At this point Sun had taken Stardivision over, and put SO
 (so51a_lnx_01.tar) up on sun.com for download.  I thought this may be
 an updated version (same name as early version but with the addition
 of the a).  I downloaded it, installed it, and it worked.

i'm not debating that this works, just that the earlier version worked
too. Is a less of a memory hog than previous versions?


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Re: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread Andrew Hately
Oki DZ wrote:
 
 Andrew Hately wrote:
  I tried both the 2.2.1 kernel rescue disc and the 2.0.36 on my
  sparcstation2; the newer one didn't seem to be able to eject the floppy when
  the next one was needed.
 
 Interesting... then how did you proceed?

ctrl-alt-del is understood by linux on the sun too, amusingly
When I got back to the boot prompt (stop-A might have got me straight there)
I ejected the 2.2.1 based floppy using the boot prompt command eject and
tried again with the 2.0.36 floppy

 As far as I know, Suns don't
 have  eject buttons on their floppy drives.

I can confirm that.
 
  Otherwise, its just like the i386 install, as Ben said.
 
 It would be different with installing Slackware on x86 I suppose...
 
  To find out how to get the sun to boot from floppy, the debain install pages
  guide you to sun's boot prompt web pages. Something like setenv
  boot_device=floppy is needed; but check this - I did it once, months 
  ago...
 
 Is it for Solaris or Debian? (or both?)

No, this is for the sun's firmware. Like an i86 box's bios setup but using a
command line. You can find an online manual on sun's site.
 
 BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
 with
 Solaris right out the boxes? 

Well linux is said to be faster.
I did it because I got an old sparcstation2 for nothing with a partial
install of sunos 4.1.something (there had once been an external disc pack
containing the rest) and absolutely no documentation and more importantly,
no licence to run sunos. I also had a couple of i86 debian boxes and though
I had a better chance of being able to do something constructive on the
sparc machine if I knew what was installed where.


 The only reason I'm asking about Debian on
 Sun is that I think it's an interesting alternative since the Classic
 where I have an access to doesn't have Solaris on it (the CDs I mean).
 
 Oki

Go for it.
Mine, as I may have said, is a wee bit slow - the 40MHz prcoessor gives 40
bogomips. That is probably down to the 1992 vintage hard disk and the fact
that it loads lots of quite important stuff over 10base2 ethernet from my
file server.
I had intended to use it as an xserver for the rest of the machines on my
network but the screen is so dim and unsharp I'm going off the idea. My next
plan is to install glade (as in gnat; i.e. the distributed systems annex
implementation by ACT) on it and see if I can write a distributed
application on my hetrogeneous network. But thats after I've done a hundred
other jobs.

Andrew
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RE: Sun classic

1999-10-05 Thread Andrew Hately
 Mine, as I may have said, is a wee bit slow - the 40MHz 
 prcoessor gives 40
 bogomips. That

that being the slowness, not the 40 bogomips.

 is probably down to the 1992 vintage hard disk 


error message

1999-10-05 Thread Bruno Van de Casteele
Hi,

after upgrading to a 2.2.10 kernel (from the default 2.1 slink one) and some
unstable packages, i get the following error:

- Original Message -
From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 9:48 AM
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] test -f /etc/ipac.conf  test -f
/usr/sbin/fetchipac  /usr/sbin/fetchipac


 /usr/sbin/fetchipac: Cant read /var/run/ip-accounting-rules - ipacset not
run?


what does it mean?

B


Re: VERY Strange Problem since last update

1999-10-05 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 07:09:13PM -0400, Todd Suess wrote:
 
 
 You mean a process _named_ pdmenu is doing this, I'll bet.
 
 Yes
 
 
 I'll also bet you'll find several dozen update-menus processes running. If
 you do, tell me what version of menu you have installed.

I had one process: wmaker that eats above 200MB VM :(

Mirek


samba looses connections

1999-10-05 Thread Rune Linding Raun
we use our central linux server to mount sharings on several data
containing workstations, the problem is that it looses the mountings
after a undetermined timeperiod!
debian 2.1 kernel 2.2.12 samba 2.05
from syslog:
 smb_get_length: recv error = 5 
 smb_request: result -5, setting invalid 
 smb_retry: new pid=518, generation=2 
 smb_get_length: recv error = 5 
 smb_request: result -5, setting invalid 
 smb_retry: new pid=521, generation=2 




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Re: where are ftp error messages logged?

1999-10-05 Thread David Karlin
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 02:36:12PM -0500, Bill West wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 01:22:44PM -0600, David Karlin wrote:
  Hello,
  I've written a shell script that creates a file, then uploads it to my
  ISP's server via (command-line) ftp.
  
  After getting it to work from the (bash) command-line, I put it in
  /etc/ppp/ip-up.d, so it would update this file every time my ppp link
  goes up.
  
  When run automatically (for example I run pon), it manages to write
  the file on my (local) system, but the (scripted) ftp session fails,
  and the file is not uploaded.
  
  Here is a snippet of my script which contains the code for the ftp
  session:
  
  # setup networking defaults
  /bin/cp /home/someuser/somefile/ ~/.netrc
  
  # begin ftp session to upload file
  /usr/bin/ftp -v -i home.myisp.com EOI
  put /var/www/somefilehere www/somefilethere
  quit
  
  EOI
  
  Why would this work from the (bash) command line, but not from
  /etc/init.d/ip-up.d?  BTW, I've tried with #!/bin/sh and
  #!/bin/bash.
 
 It could be that the script is trying to run before the link is all the way
 up and cannot make the connection. You could try throwing a sleep in there
 test this theory. Just guessing from some things along this line I was doing
 awhile back.

Hi again,
I tried adding a sleep 9 right before beginning the ftp session, but it
didn't make any difference.  Maybe it needs a longer amount of time?

Since the file is written to my local machine with a link to the (correct)
current, dynamic IP address, I can't imagine that the link is not up when
that same file is uploaded to the server _later_ in the script.  In fact,
I added a line with mail -s script name myuserid /somefilehere right
before, and right after, the ftp session part of the script.  Both messages
found their way to my inbox with the _correct_ dynamic IP address for ppp0.

It seems that everything in the script runs properly except the scripted
ftp session (which works fine from the command line).

Which brings me back to my original question:  Where are ftp error messages
logged?

Thanks for the interest.

PS:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d
supposed to run only _after_ the ppp link is established?

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Sun sparc: no media install? [Re: Sun classic]

1999-10-05 Thread J Horacio MG

 BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
 with
 Solaris right out the boxes? The only reason I'm asking about Debian on
 Sun is that I think it's an interesting alternative since the Classic
 where I have an access to doesn't have Solaris on it (the CDs I mean).

I've been trying to get a Sun sparc machine for myself, with the only
purpose of installing Debian/Linux into it.  I don't know why I should
have it working only with Solaris if I could make it run with Linux.

On another list someone said he had got one sparc station, with no media
in it, and no OS installed.  Anyone knows how could this guy have
Debian installed?  (surely via internet, but as I said there's no system
installed, and no floppy or cd drive).


Regards,

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Valencia - ESPAÑA


Programming question: missing braces around initializer

1999-10-05 Thread Joop Stakenborg
I have a bit of source code here with the following bit:

Morse MorseTable[]= 
{ 
' ',NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL, 
'A',DIH,DAH,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL, 
'B',DAH,DIH,DIH,DIH,NIL,NIL,NIL,

[etc...]

'/',DAH,DIH,DIH,DAH,DIH,NIL,NIL, 
0,  NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL /* END MARKER */ 
}; 


Gcc warns me with:

morse.c:52: warning: missing braces around initializer
morse.c:52: warning: (near initialization for `MorseTable[0]')


Anyone know how to fix?

Thanks,

Joop
-- 

 Joop Stakenborg PA4TU, ex-PA3ABA 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: how to develop in c++ ...

1999-10-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 20:04:43 +0200, Attila Csosz wrote:
 I'd like to set up an environment( a set of programs ) to develop programs
 under c++. I've heard about xemacs, gdb. Is it good? I need at least to
 set/clear breakpoints; step to next source line; run and make projects.
 Which programs/packages do you suggest?

gdb is a powerful debugger, but the interface isn't very comfortable. You
may want to consider 'ddd' (available in the devel section) as a front-end
to it.

plug type=blatant
http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~jdassen/onderwijs/stuva/debug/ has some
introductory stuff on debugging C and C++ code under Un*x.
/plug

HTH,
Ray
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it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own.   
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan


Boot EPROM vs. floppy

1999-10-05 Thread Istvan Benak
Hi!

I have a question! If I make a booteprom and a bootfloppy which one will
boot first?


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Re: file with prz extension

1999-10-05 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:22:22AM +0200, Istvan Benak wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 How can I view with my Linux box the somfile.prz file? Which program
 should I use? Or if someone have a program which can view this file and
 can convert it to an human format (i.e. pdf, or ppt, or anything else)
 please send me a mail

Does the `file' command recognize it (type `file somfile.prz')?

Eric

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Re: Boot EPROM vs. floppy

1999-10-05 Thread Brian May
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Hi!

I have a question! If I make a booteprom and a bootfloppy which one will
boot first?

It probably depends on the bootrom you use.

I have seen some bootroms ask the user which one to use...
(this was on NE1000 compatable cards, so it isn't exactly brand new).
-- 
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Re: Programming question: missing braces around initializer

1999-10-05 Thread Joop Stakenborg
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:22:57PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen Ray wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:58:23 +0200, Joop Stakenborg wrote:
  morse.c:52: warning: missing braces around initializer
 
  Anyone know how to fix?
 
 Just a guess, perhaps Morse is a 2 or more dimensional array type rather
 than a one-dimensional one, and you need to add braces for the rows?

No, don't think so...

Here is a bit from the code:

---
/* declaration of Morse */

Morse MorseTable[]=
{
' ',NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,
'A',DIH,DAH,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,
'B',DAH,DIH,DIH,DIH,NIL,NIL,NIL,
'C',DAH,DIH,DAH,DIH,NIL,NIL,NIL,

[etc...]

'0',DAH,DAH,DAH,DAH,DAH,NIL,NIL,
'?',DIH,DIH,DAH,DAH,DIH,DIH,NIL,
'/',DAH,DIH,DIH,DAH,DIH,NIL,NIL,
0,  NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL /* END MARKER */
};

/* structure called Morse */

typedef struct
{
char code;
enum
{
   NIL,
   DIH,
   DAH,
} data[7];
} Morse;

/* example of how table is called */

Morse *CharToMorse(char c)
{
int ct=0;
while(MorseTable[ct].code)
{
  if(MorseTable[ct].code==c)
  return(MorseTable[ct]);
  ct++;
}
return(NULL);
}
---

Looks one-dimensional to me.

The warnings says:
$ gcc -Wall morse.c
morse.c:52: warning: missing braces around initializer
morse.c:52: warning: (near initialization for `MorseTable[0]')

line 52 is: ' ',NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL, (see above)
 
 Ray
 -- 

Groetjes,

Joop

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 it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own.   
 - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
 
 

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Re: Slink to Potato

1999-10-05 Thread Damon Muller
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 03:38:05AM +0100, Mark Brown was heard to state:
   The stable GNOME packages are actually produced by the Debian
   maintainers - they're just distributed from the GNOME site.
 
  So, why would they not be introduced into slink-proposed-updates?
 
 The only things in proposed-updates should be minimal fixes for very 
 important (eg, security) bugs - things that will go into a new point
 release of slink.  New upstream releases don't generally make those 
 criteria, and the GNOME one certainly doesn't.

I've managed to stay out of this up until now, but this is something I
have been concerned about myself. This last statement is really the crux
of the matter - should stable remain untouched except for security
updates?

I think when the new debian comes out, I'll really have to be called
Debian 3.0. As far as I'm aware, the traditional naming convention for
software projects means that a whole number release signifies a release
which is incompatible with the previous release.

Because of the developments such as glibc2.1, perl, and probably
numerous other things, you can't take something out of Potato and put it
on a Slink system and expect it to work. It's an all-or-nothing
arrangement. They may both be `GNU/Linux', but they are essential
incompatible.

The problem for most of us trapped in slink-land is that, while the
linux and open source community is streaking ahead in leaps and bounds,
with advances in software coming so quickly that it's hard for anyone to
keep up, we are merely marking time.

Let me make clear that I have nothing against the Debain model. I know
that it's completely volunteer, and that a bunch of volunteers who do
the packages, organised via a series of high-traffic mailing lists, is
as close to anarchy as you can really get. I fully appreciate the
dedication that the developers have, and know that they wont release
anything until they believe they have it right. For a production system,
I'd much rather have an slightly rusty debain install than a brand new
RedHat one.

Maybe the problem with the debian model is that everything has to work
together so well before it is released, and there is so much that has
to work. The number of debian packages seems to grow by a dozen or so
every time Debian Weekly News comes out, and I suspect by the time
Potato becomes stable, it'll need at least 3 CDs for Main.

The problem is that, unlike with RPMs, very few people outside the
debian project package DEBs of their software - why would they when they
may as well be offical for the same effort. Yes I know you can use
Alien, but really, that's a hack (if quite a good one at times), not a 
solution. So if you want any new software to easily add, you need to
wait for a new debian release.

Luckily for us, there are a few people who package and release stuff for
Slink, such as netgod, and the GNOME and KDE maintainers. In my
experience, all of this stuff has worked quite well, and I have no
complaints. But to keep up to date with anything other than what these
people maintain, you're on your own.

Now, I've been using linux for a few years now, so I'm not scared to try
a `./configure; make; make install', but then you loose the benefits of
dpkg/apt looking after your system. You also run the very real risk of
not having the libraries you need, or not in the right places, and if
you want to update something `significant', like the GIMP, you're
probably going to have to be installing lots of libraries yourself, and
ending up getting into all sorts of confusion.

I've looked after a few RedHat machines, and although I'll take Debian
any day, they did have one advantage. Their base system, like Debian,
was only really updated for security fixes and the kernel differences,
between major releases. But at least RH users have the possibility of
looking in the Conrtib archives (their contrib means `user contributed',
which makes more sense to me than contrib meaning `depends on something
in non-free', but maybe I'm just thick...), and finding nice new
releases of their favourite packaged. Sure, it might not work, it might
hose their system, it might even install a backdoor and have you owned
in half an hour, but it's an informed choice.

Debian stable, on the other hand, works perfect, every time, for a long
time - but it doesn't change for a long time either. Something of a
doble-edged sword, I guess. I'm not necessarily suggesting we go the RH
way, and throw quality control to the wind, but it's an interesting
difference that highlights some issues.

Where does this leave me? I like trying new things, and I'm as
up-to-date as netgod and gnome want me to be. I'm also pretty
adventurous, and I'd like to try some of the newer stuff. I compile a bit
of stuff myself (Lyx was one of the apps mentioned in the original
message in this thread, and I've got that working fine by compiling it
myself). On the other hand, I'm not a programmer - I'm a user. I can fix
some things, apply patches 

Re: Programming question: missing braces around initializer

1999-10-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 14:23:38 +0200, Joop Stakenborg wrote:
 Morse MorseTable[]=
 {
 ' ',NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,

Change to
 {' ', {NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL,NIL}},
etc. The outer pair of curly braces is because the elements of the array are
structs, which aren't atomic; the inner pair is because the second member of
the struct is an array which isn't atomic.

HTH,
Ray
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[Fwd: file with prz extension]

1999-10-05 Thread Istvan Benak
Sorry I forgot to say it's an Lotus Freelanc Graphics97 file (by the
whatis.com world all file formats)

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Hi all!

How can I view with my Linux box the somfile.prz file? Which program
should I use? Or if someone have a program which can view this file and
can convert it to an human format (i.e. pdf, or ppt, or anything else)
please send me a mail

Thx!


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Re: Sun sparc: no media install? [Re: Sun classic]

1999-10-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:50:37AM +0200, J Horacio MG wrote:
 
  BTW, why would anyone install the Debian on Suns if the machines come
  with
  Solaris right out the boxes? The only reason I'm asking about Debian on
  Sun is that I think it's an interesting alternative since the Classic
  where I have an access to doesn't have Solaris on it (the CDs I mean).
 
 I've been trying to get a Sun sparc machine for myself, with the only
 purpose of installing Debian/Linux into it.  I don't know why I should
 have it working only with Solaris if I could make it run with Linux.
 
 On another list someone said he had got one sparc station, with no media
 in it, and no OS installed.  Anyone knows how could this guy have
 Debian installed?  (surely via internet, but as I said there's no system
 installed, and no floppy or cd drive).

You'll need to read the install text on setting up a tftp server and an nfs
export of the needed files.

Ben


Re: In case anyone was wondering where kde.tdyc.com went.

1999-10-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:38:36PM -0400, B. Szyszka wrote:

 OK, but what about the KDE folks, then? Why don't the mirrors for KDE have
 apt-ing setup?

Ask them.

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Slrnpull and denied access to out.going

1999-10-05 Thread David Kanter
First off, I have read the README.Debian file in /usr/doc/slrnpull/, but I 
still cannot get slrnpull to accept my outgoing messages when running slrn in 
spool mode. (Incidentally, is there a way to run slrnpull as non-root?)

As suggested, I did: adduser david news, adding me to the news group. (I 
elected not to chmod 777 on the out.going directory since that seemed the more 
pernicious approach.) However, I still get messages that access is denied to 
the out.going group.

Is there something I'm missing here? Should I (david) be added to group news 
AND chmod 777 on the out.going directory? I've tried posting an article to 
comp.os.linux.setup about 5 times but the access denied message keeps getting 
in my way. And what security holes are there, if any, by adding david to group 
news?

Help...

Thanks.


Clock is loosing time

1999-10-05 Thread David Kanter
Why is the time as shown by asclock drifting so far from the real time? Does 
Linux read the BIOS time, and therefore my BIOS clock is losing time quickly, 
or is something else going on? Now the time is off by about 15 minutes, and it 
makes crontab jobs sort of tricky.

Is there a way to sync the time with a server when I start a PPP, so I won't 
have to worry about this in the future? I vaguely remember a mention of this 
when installing Slink.

Thanks,
Dave


Re: Clock is loosing time

1999-10-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
[Please use 76 character lines]

On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:07:02 -0500, David Kanter wrote:
 Why is the time as shown by asclock drifting so far from the real time?
 Does Linux read the BIOS time, and therefore my BIOS clock is losing time
 quickly,

Could be; see clock(8).

 or is something else going on? Now the time is off by about 15 minutes,
 and it makes crontab jobs sort of tricky.

The time support also tries to keep drift in mind, using the file
/etc/adjtime. Sometimes it helps to delete that file and then update the
clock (clock --date=... ; clock --hctosys) daily for a couple of days.

 Is there a way to sync the time with a server when I start a PPP,

Yes, the NTP protocol. See the ntp and ntpdate packages.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Clock is loosing time

1999-10-05 Thread Stephan Engelke
Hi David,

On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:07:02AM -0500, David Kanter wrote:
 
 Is there a way to sync the time with a server when I start a PPP, so I won't 
 have to worry about this in the future? I vaguely remember a mention of this 
 when installing Slink.

Check xntp and ntpdate.  I believe there is a .deb-package called xntp.
Next place a call to ntpdate servername in your ip-up.d.

This should do the trick.

Cheers -- Stephan
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Re: In case anyone was wondering where kde.tdyc.com went.

1999-10-05 Thread Richard E. Hawkins

[While I am a lawyer, the following is not legal advice.  If you need 
legal advice, contact an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction.]


 It is not that Qt is incomaptible it is the fact that KDE is linked to
 software under a non GPL license and KDE is under the GPL.  This
 violates the GPL. See http://www.debian.org/News/1998/19981008 for all
 the specifics.  Keep in mind that this is for Qt v1, Qt v2 is under a
 different license so things are starting to change for the better.


This is a common misunderstanding, even among KDE developers.  No 
matter how many times they say it, KDE is *not* GPL, but quasi-GPL.  
The actions of the developers override the conflicting boilerplate in 
the GPL, creating a different license.  This is basic and ancient law.

On the other hand, being that KDE is not GPL, inclusion of other GPL'd 
software withing KDE could/would/does(?) violate the GPL.

The bottom line is that it is legally impossible for the developers to 
violate their own license.  It is, however, possible for them to 
violate other licenses by including code.


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Re: Gateway E-4200 install probs

1999-10-05 Thread Stephen R. Gore
Kent West wrote:
 Seth R Arnold wrote:
   I'm trying to install slink on a Gateway E-4200 (PIII 400).  This is
   a testbed install, eventually to be an entire lab.  I've had no problems
   installing to an older E-3200 (PII 300).
  
   The problem is that the network card (3COM 3c905.c) isn't recognized.
   When I select the appropriate module from the network drivers menu, insmod
   fails (device not found).  I've switched to another VT, and dmesg shows:
   Unrecognized 3COM PCI device type 9200 detected. Leaving unconfigured.
  
 Steve, you're also likely to run into problems with the
 Rage128-based video card if you install X. You can download a
 driver from www.suse.com, which worked for me.

Kent, the NIC problem was easy to fix using the advice given.  However,
I'm having more difficulty with the Rage128-based video card.

Could you please give me a more detailed explanation of what you did to
get it working?




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